Godot Engine Officially Goes Woke

[@TheTrollVtuber]

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[@Ashkihyena]

There’s something in the water in California, isn’t there?

[@enforcerridley158]

Over 40 times the Estrogen in the water than it legally safe for drinking, perhaps?

[@rgenc42721]

it makes the frogs gae

[@adrianocs4]

@@enforcerridley158 this can cause lack of accountability?

[@jamesThebulbmin]

Don't drink the water they put something in it to make you forget

[@ZhaneBadguy]

@@adrianocs4 There's a movie with Jack Nicholson where a woman asks him 'how do you write women so well', and he replies “I think of a man. And I take away reason and accountability.” Of course its a joke but you just reminded me of it. So the more Estrogen the less accountability.

[@TheCoolerDrilis]

"All right fellas, you know the drill. We've become successful after everyone started using our engine after Unity's monumental fuckup a year or two ago, so naturally it's our responsibility to do everything in our power to ruin that."

[@matthiasvancauteren3107]

The irony is Unity came back on that fuckup, so they might actually bounce back now

[@trashjash]

​@@matthiasvancauteren3107 But the fact that Unity even tried to screw over the devs that used it in the first place instills no confidence that they won't try some other stupid idea later that would screw everyone using it. And who's to say that they'll listen next time? I hate the Godot "community manager" types, but I've just learned to ignore them. The official Godot discords (confusing I know, one was started by the community and was the main one before Godot's community team made their own) have had rainbow cult flag colors in their icons and rules saying you can't criticize these people in those servers and all sorts of nonsense for a long while now. But I don't go there for that junk, I go to find tips and help on how people are doing things in the engine, and if a trddn rears their head I ignore it. Godot is still a useful engine, especially if you're not going to invest the weeks to months or longer of time and effort into learning how to and making your own game engine. Want specific behaviors to use while developing your game? You can probably find a plug-in that already exists or is helpful in achieving those goals, rather than adding it from scratch in your own in-house engine. And if you know how to work on game engines, great, because you can tweak and alter Godot if you want to. I hate the modern cult of rainbow worshippers and the filth they drag into everything they touch, but they can't force my games to bend to their disgusting ideologies. I spent the last year learning Godot to make my own projects, my time will not be wasted because of them. I'll use it to piss them off and enrage them until they're finally laughed back into the disgusting pits of the internet like tumblr that they all crawled out of and leave us alone. I'm not losing a culture war to ugly men who have mutilated themselves and painted their faces and thrown on skirts and bras, or any of their disgusting and uncivilized friends.

[@anthropicandroid4494]

And right on time, Unity just reversed course about a week ago: everything else is more costly, but no more runtime fees

[@RusticRonnie]

@@anthropicandroid4494Godot and unity have the same issue Unreal is a Industry standard engine that is more powerful… and free for indie developers who make less then $1,000,000 in revenue on their game

[@chaosmachines934]

DUDE WTF IS GODOT DOING AT THIS POINT .... i like that its open source and they did Chad move with unity fiasco but this is such a big fuck up.

[@hillehai]

Jesus Christ, that Erika person's tweets are beyond cringe. She's like an actual caricature. Who'd hire someone like that?

[@Radek494]

Wokies at Sucker Punch themselves have pride flags and pronouns on their twitter accounts

[@enforcerridley158]

Erika is so cringe probably because she's so arrogant in her willful ignorance. She actually believes Trump Supporters are Racist, Fascist, and Homophobic.

[@cristitanase6130]

A company that recently got a huge ESG cash investment and hides it from the rest of the world?

[@tempoaccla4041]

someone who gets paid for hiring someone like that the woke revolution has been over a decade of investors like Black Rock pushing woke garbage into entertainment and promising big bucks regardless of the success of the products

[@woodwyrm]

@@Radek494 many such cases

[@itsasecrettoeverybody]

Maybe I should start a trend to make WWII bad guys mini games using the godot engine and sharing it for free on X... The license is MIT, they can't stop me.

[@Branmad-statross]

Dew it.

[@BarbRogersMs.SolarTerror]

Dew it!

[@SmolTerribleTornado]

Go for it my man!

[@bigs42069]

Do it!!

[@Casual.Gamer_0000]

just make sure to share the source code if requested, so modders can work on it :)

[@Snakedude4life]

“Quality of [product] is going down, what are we do?” “Improve resource management.” “Adjust internal command structure.” “Have terminally online men in dresses defend us by making a social media post.” 🎩 🐍 no step on snek🇺🇸🇭🇰

[@basscannonjake1235]

Tell your clients to not purchase your product obviously

[@TheSolidSnakeOil]

You are literally everywhere dude.

[@TuhljinTampergauge]

Snek isn't doing enough biting.

[@kusog3]

This is why I hate woke shit, it always turns into drama around political identities. And there's always an activist behind using it to grift and farm views

[@ReCharredSigh]

That one guy: listen to our loyal customers and improve quality of product? *gets glares from everyone* *gets yeeted out window*

[@LordCousland]

At this point even if the game Ghost of Y, is not woke, I will not buy it. The company could have hired any other woman to play that role, but they decided to hire that one. Knowing full well who she is. That is enough for me to not support the company or the actress.

[@Solus-qn3ur]

Blackrock investment made them to do it.

[@Parlimant_Strifey]

​@@Solus-qn3ur and men and women under names like Rothschild, Rockefeller, Roosevelt made them do it. Also that Schwartz clan that goes by another name now.

[@cabnbeeschurgr]

When we look at these companies, it is often that the HR and marketing is in charge of these optics-based decisions. So even if your average dev who loves games doesn't like the woke stuff, it's not up to them. I don't think we should judge the entire company based on the (presumably) ESG-obsessed HR/hiring depts.

[@LordCousland]

@@cabnbeeschurgr You are right, I did not want to judge the entire company, I sure there are good people there who are just trying to earn a living. but I can judge the leadership. They surely know who they hire for which job. They are the representatives of their company. If they are fine with such an activist to represent their company, I am out. You see they called me a hater first, I did not even know these people existed until like 5 years ago, when they started pissing in everyone’s soup, so nah I am good. They can sell their game to their modern audience and spread their toxic ideology. I will do as I was told. It was not made for me, so I will not buy it.

[@sururhis7175]

you can't even define woke.

[@AVisionofTruth]

Mantra: I can stay uninterested far longer than they can stay solvent.

[@ChasingStarz-Ou812]

🎯

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Facts. I dont know who's supporting these companies, but its not me.

[@ClokworkGremlin]

@@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz Schwab and Fink

[@Hey1234Hey]

GoGay engine

[@ace0135]

Gaydot was right there

[@Hey1234Hey]

@@ace0135 GayGay engine

[@redn9215]

Fa godot

[@LedoCool1]

Damn it was a promising engine.

[@ChasingStarz-Ou812]

@@redn9215 You're close, the word ended with ola in Zohan lol

[@TheLeadElite]

After what happened to Concord, Dustborn, Acolyte, and now AC:S, why would anyone want to openly be woke? It’s a proven kiss of death for a product.

[@FunnyStripes]

"It's not about the money. It's about sending a message." They literally don't care about it. They are wielding all these companies and products as vehicles for propaganda.

[@Skyline_NTR]

The "message" (propaganda) + the modern audience (or lack thereof) is more important, obv. But hey, if they wanna self report, cool. That means, instead of potentially wasting money on tainted products, we can go back through our steam library that we have barely touched in 10 years... oh wait

[@are3287]

Because godot doesnt rely on sales... they have no sales, the engine is free.

[@robertbeisert3315]

It was never about products or customers, tovarich

[@idkman2729]

They dont care about losing money, blackrock will give them infinite money with the help of governments.

[@NoahGooder]

funfact as somone in the trenches of gamedev autodesk maya broke old software because they changed functions inside thier api that contained the strings "master" and "slave" for woke reasons.

[@kusog3]

Yeah, I think it's not just maya that was affected, I remember all of these woke stuff invading the coding space when they started enforcing "Code of Conduct" and recently a python contributor got banned cause he liked certain comedy skits that did not pass Python's CoC.

[@NoahGooder]

@@kusog3 the big issue is that the change wasnt even a reasonable functional change. like an update to a function to make its types more constrained or such. It was purely a semantic change because the functions contained "master" and "slave" as part of the name. Fixing it, in a way that allowed backwards compatibility with older versions of the software (imagine more or less handling all versions of the software that ran on windows xp and extending to the most recent 2024 release) required relying on a version macro in the sdk that wasnt very well formed. TLDR: I was working with an addon that needed to support versions of maya that were released starting around 2005 and also be able to handle every version forward from that.

[@Verticen_]

​@@NoahGooder From someone else who's had to rely on the duct-taped together computer software that is maya, this makes my blood boil. Breaking legacy compatibility like this can compromise an entire production pipeline in the interest of current-year word-policing.

[@NoahGooder]

@@Verticen_ how do you even handle maya? its UI makes me want to punch my monitor, because for most things it seems less user friendly then blender. (just trying to move the camera seems to take like 3 keybinds and the UI in general also seems to expect you to use keybinds.) Also in my case the pipeline I was dealing with was fixing the asset production pipeline for a game from around 2007 called Uru:Ages beyond myst. (yes made by cyan).

[@ImNotFine44]

They broke 3ds max like this too didnt they?

[@PeterDanielBerg]

never understood why you even need a "community manager". a "managed community" sounds awfully inorganic and authoritarian

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

Cause they're commies

[@TheCynicalAutist]

Having a "community manager" on it's own does make sense, because the role is intended to be a direct line of communication from consumers to developers, but people will abuse their "manegerial" powers regardless of how worthless they are.

[@fillerbunnyninjashark271]

@@TheCynicalAutist consumers are cattle. The corporation does not care what the cattle think

[@GodOfOrphans]

We used to just call them public relations representatives and they were actually pretty good at their jobs back then but then the term changed to community manager which is an extremely buzzwordy and ideologically loaded term and almost immediately the entire field of PR went to hell. Seriously be very wary of the term community it is 9 times out of 10 code for a politically hijacked clique pretending to represent the majority to subvert the will of said majority.

[@GodOfOrphans]

We used to just call them public relations representatives and they were actually pretty good at their jobs back then but then the term changed to community manager an incredibly loaded term for the position and almost immediately the entire field of PR went to hell.

[@cobusvanderlinde6871]

Godot: Oh look I'm somehow soaked in gasoline along with the rest of the gaming industry. I've been waiting for a good time to strike this match.

[@IDESTROYER236]

Getting visited by the Arsonist in Town Of Salem be like.

[@patoastral2118]

No, it wont because godot is open source and completely free, this """"" woke"""" thing is something nobody really cares

[@TickingDance]

@@IDESTROYER236town of Salem mentioned, very nice

[@k.l.graham5860]

Imagine a world...where a company's social media...only posted about their products.

[@alexandrustefanmiron7723]

Time for a sanity fork!

[@yokai1235]

please do

[@maicoxmauler2825]

Pygame CE did it so it's just a matter of time

[@knox7945]

Maybe it takes extreme measurement to do so

[@colorpg152]

what does it takes to do that?

[@RealRatchet]

​@@colorpg152a git client

[@cristitanase6130]

California strikes again... This sucks, Godot was a good indie alternative to Unity. I will still use it if needed, but I will make sure to remove any traces that may be used to promote it, like logos and such. They made their bed, they have to sleep in it, not me. I won't help them spit on my face.

[@defeqel6537]

At least it's open source

[@guillermoelnino]

​@@defeqel6537 time for a maga fork

[@lcmiracle]

First thing needed to be done is implementing native c/c++ support

[@snafu1635]

​@@guillermoelnino *miga fork

[@scarm_rune]

@@defeqel6537 whats the point when half the engine is ass (because the main devs refuse to fix them)

[@hakin8026]

Oh for f sake. I just started learning it

[@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115]

Same here... I just wanted to make games.

[@Pharozos]

I was just about to start.... yikes.

[@ristolaukkanen5324]

Same here

[@Sammysapphira]

Learn to actually program game state and rendering instead of relying on proprietary "game engines" to do it all for you, leaving you in the dust when the industry inevitably moves onto another new product.

[@moritorl]

Same here

[@afkalmighty1557]

Fuck first Unity makes the worst business decision ever, then Unreal goes woke, and now Godot? Is there any place not touched by this infestation?

[@nonotorious1467]

Not until there is a massive concerted pushback from the normies in society who didn't believe you when you told them about this 10 years ago.

[@MrMestapholese]

@@nonotorious1467 They still don't believe. Worse yet, there are "alleged former supporters of GG" who've turned on it and claim that the wokies were right about the movement.

[@kusog3]

@@nonotorious1467 the sad part is, they thought the normal people not minding woke means everyone supports it and now every department has DEI, it's honestly tiring. Even in the coding space, we have DEI... like bruh, all this identity politics are so tiring...

[@galvanizeddreamer2051]

Unreal is owned by China. I would think that would take priority over woke.

[@GodOfOrphans]

No, even if I knew of an engine that wasn't corrupted they have claws in all of the gaming distribution platforms among others it's like trying to avoid stuff with CCP tendrils it's basically impossible unless you decide to go Superfly, or Walden for non Jobros. It clearly still hurts them when their propaganda flops but avoiding it entirely is basically impossible. Hell the governments are in on it as well as our collective retirement funds you'd literally have to commit tax evasion to fully avoid paying into it. Don't mistake this for a blackpill though it's clearly hurting otherwise they wouldn't be getting desperate I'm just saying to give yourself a break when you inadvertantly support something that turns out to be corrupted, it's unavoidable and they don't even bother holding that standard and cheat on stuff they claim to boycott all the time and the ones who genuinely do try to do that go completely insane from the stress of having to carefully vet everything and inevitably failing. There's a reason most people don't actually bother going Walden/Superfly despite literal instruction manuals on how to do it being readily available it's a gigantic PITA and while impressive it ultimately removes you from the conversation and thus not advancing your principles on the societal level meaning the establishment wins by forfeit essentially, it's living by your principles by allowing them to die with you, a devil's bargain if ever there was one.

[@Alpha13yt]

-Unity did the whole runtime fee fiasco -Unreal Engine mandates woke-speak in its documentation (using 'blacklist' is racist type of bs) -Godot is now "Wokot" I don't mean to doom and gloom but the landscape of game development is looking so bleak right now its depressing

[@kusog3]

Honestly makes me want to go back to my roots and use Libgdx framework again... I just hope they too haven't delved into all these identity politics..

[@ThatGuyNamedRick]

Raylib, STRIDE, Manta, I'm sure there's more engines out there but I just don't have the time to learn anymore. I'm leaning on STRIDE since that seems to have the largest community with the most support but my gut feeling is that it'll fall the same way.

[@GodotNoContext]

Pick the lesser of two evils, at least. Don't tolerate abuse. Also, the ocean is large, and bubbles tend to pop anyway. 😃

[@zamfir2005]

Godot having having one stupid community manager changes nothing, even if they start adding stuff devs can just fork off since Godot is open source and free. I hear there are easy workarounds for Unreal too, tho Unreal is really only for 3D games, 2D on Unreal are bloated and oversized. Unity always was a blade without a handle, easy to drop, easy to cut yourself with, with all their stupid policies and changes. RPGMaker is an option, tho the engine is a bit limited with how it can be used. GameMaker I hear is pretty damned complicated, but some of the most original and unique games I've played are made with it. Twine is a game engine made for text-based narrative games, but some people have managed much more with it. Ren'Py is mostly for VNs, tho some genius aliens parading as human indie devs managed to make 2D RPGs and simulators in it. Let us also remind ourselves that most games are made from scratch, with no base engine, games ranging from indie nobody with alcohol and passion for a budget to AAA best-selling. So no , hope ain't lost. You just gotta abandon the wasteland you're on and look for greener pastures elsewhere.

[@venga3]

That was the real objective.

[@ForumBlackwolfdave]

the most pathetic thing is that the necromorph running that account spent hours hiding all the replies mocking them

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

As a godot user, I want to say this is because of Godot's new community manager, hired like 4 months ago. She is the living WOKE stereotype. No idea how she got hired. But the devteam itself is not woke itself. Despite the discord server flying the rainbow flag, its devs just don't care and simply focus on making a quality engine.

[@kusog3]

it's probably the normal people's "don't care" attitude that allowed all these DEI woke activists to infiltrate every facet of entertainment. I'm not blaming the devs, cause I too was complicit and "didn't mind" the wokeness. But now I'm also tired of all these political identity drama that DEI activists uses to grift and farm engagement...

[@thefool8224]

the devteam wont last. they will either be made to quit or get fired one after the other or convert, until nothing but slop remains.

[@chucksneedmoreland]

women tend to bring in useless baggage

[@Schion_A]

​@@thefool8224the good thing about Godot being open source is even if the entire dev team gets removed/replaced, they could just reform as another team and create a fork of the engine that they will develop and maintain

[@wingedflyingforce5139]

@@Schion_A let me know what that fork is, I will follow THAT instead

[@AnikiSkywrestler]

Choose: Unity engine that retroactively fucks it's users in terms of pricing options, or a fair price engine that's gone woke? The third option, fuck games I guess.

[@progste]

third option is don't use an engine.

[@Klongu_Da_Bongu]

*Waves around old man walking stick "Back in my day, companies would make their own in-house engines... Ahh Thief, the Dark Project" "Alright, Grandpa..."

[@ClarkKentai]

Third option is the Doom Engine.

[@alejandrotorresriquelme8714]

Make your engine, and tell this people they get charged extra for being woke.

[@doomtrooper3184]

​@@Klongu_Da_Bongu Wasn't it The Dark Mod? If so, it used IdTech 4 (The Doom 3 engine, now modified iirc). In any case, another good example would be 0 AD (The devs use the Pyrogenesis mode created by their company Wildfire Games).

[@WH40KHero]

Oh for FUCKS sake... Welp, another one bites the dust i guess.

[@pikminologueraisin2139]

it won't f*cking stop

[@ChasingStarz-Ou812]

@@pikminologueraisin2139 How much money are we supposed to save in a lifetime? It's like you hit the peak of one mountain only to find the next much bigger mountain is right in front of it.

[@dmittleman9757]

Maybe the answer isn’t to switch engines, but to make good games on Godot that are incredibly based and encourage traditional/classic themes?

[@riverblack123]

Based

[@scarm_rune]

lord adolf 2 the sleepening

[@are3287]

Yes Or do that on a better engine

[@idkman2729]

This would finance and advertise their gay ass engine. Just make your custom engine.

[@ozi-g-be]

​@@are3287better in terms of what, ideology? When has ideology helped me with coding physics?

[@Arassar]

Wait, Godot is FOSS? Fork that shit.

[@thespider7898]

Yeah, a lot of people are kind of panicking over nothing. Just dont support the foundation and fork the engine if you want to make changes to it

[@elCamo12]

godot has been woke for centuries i think... just their discord server is in permanent pride-month mode xD i dont get how people are shocked

[@NikolaNevenov86]

Yup, almost all free/open source projects are full of gay or trans people. Blender has a trannie, Krita's main maintainer is a trannie, Vulkan team has a trannie as well.

[@doniarts]

@@NikolaNevenov86 At least they are not going around causing trouble for the projects as far as I have seen. But maybe I am wrong on that if someone could correct me on that.

[@cristitanase6130]

Probably after the recent woke collapses most people thought the poison is cured. It's not and it won't as long as US education system is an indoctrination camp.

[@asandax6]

​@@doniarts They can't do anything to influence user projects since Godot is open source.

[@J0derVIVIVI]

Because they stayed in their lane, aka, discord server where normies did not bother to look at or have interest for. Now the screaming publicly on X

[@HattaTHEZulZILLA86]

Look up the group photo for Ghost of Yotei's developers. No further words needed.

[@riverblack123]

Yeah that game is gonna fucking suck lol

[@skaruts]

Godot has been woke for a long time, actually. At least the discord added pronouns and a rainbow icon years ago. And I warned people, but nobody listened. And yea, seems they still don't understand that politics are bad for business...

[@thespider7898]

The godot engine is FOSS, so its not really a buisiness, the foundation is a charity I think. They only own the branding, so you can just fork the engine and do whatever you want with it, even make the default icon a swastika and sell it for money.

[@NameNotAChannel]

My take on this, as a hobbyist game devoloper: The Godot engine is open source, free, and created by group contribution, not a single team. EVEN IF the leadership considers themselves woke, and their community manager THINKS they're woke... the game engine itself, is NOT woke. The game engine cannot force me to add woke elements to my game design. The game engine cannot change my story. The game engine cannot change my character art. The game engine cannot force me to have a character creation system that adds woke elements. The game engine is a TOOL. And at this time, I don't think I even need to use the Godot splash screen, so nobody will know I used the Godot engine to create my games in the first place, even if they added woke elements to their logo... So, claiming to be a woke engine for social credit points is a pure virtue signal that means NOTHING.

[@scarm_rune]

the game engine is not woke but it's been neglected by woke (bugs that impact the game audiovisually)

[@askvra]

This is the way of thinking in this situation. This drama is from community management side, not the engine itself but some people seems have a hard time to distinguish it.

[@NameNotAChannel]

@@scarm_rune I could not identify a single woke-inspired tool feature that was prioritized OVER bugs... the level of incompetence that may be evident by the existence of long-standing bugs could be attributed to a lack of programming skill in the team, but that would have been present from the start, and isn't the fault of hiring on woke devs at the expense of a merit-based system... and as Godot isn't really a "company" to begin with, it's not running like a business anyway, where such things would happen. (the community, consisting of non-woke members, could step up and contribute bug fixes as well...) I just don't see this as a "woke" vs "non-woke" issue... and to be clear, I do not support woke ideology.

[@J0derVIVIVI]

@@askvra It s NOT. You cannot be "pragmatic" like this against these 🤡 that has been proven over and over. they have a reverse touch of midas.

[@ali32bit42]

youre right. one of the lead devs is a furry that's into the forbidden stuff. you don't see any traces of that in the engine so i thick were good for now

[@bloodmoonangel8925]

Can't the pendulum swing back to the normal side any faster please

[@wrongthinker843]

That would be antisemitic.

[@lonewolfgames7779]

The problem with cultural marxi$m, people can't just shut up about it.

[@Raspse7en]

Yep. And these same people who won’t shut up about it then sit there looking stupid wondering why everything they have their tendrils on fail miserably and why they themselves are disliked by many. And it does not have to do with their identity and preferences as they quick to think.

[@sik3xploit]

That's what happens about an ideology that's about having absolute control over everyone's life.

[@ShadiC636]

@@Raspse7en I’m inclined to believe that it’s all intentional. You don’t just take over numerous major brands and bankrupt them in pretty much the same way, without an agenda in mind.

[@muhdiversity7409]

Look at the programming language called Rust.The Rust main developers are incredibly woke. It seems to use it you have to swallow gallons of wokeness. Since they started trying to push it into the Linux kernel one German kernel developer got swatted by armed German Polezei because he made a video critical of Rust. We're entering a woke brave new world where everything is a trojan horse for wokeness which will be used to derail whatever it touches.

[@f2pcoder92]

no the problem with cultural marxism is that it will infest anything and destroy everything you like while most people do to combat is just stand and watch.

[@muhdiversity7409]

7:05 You are 100% spot on. They bleat about Diversity from sun up until sun down yet my division could hardly be called diverse, not by a long shot.

[@_KondoIsami_]

Just a reminder that Godot is under MIT which means they can easily make new versions under licenses you don't like. If they decide to limit who has access to it and censor your games in the future they can, godot 5 could easily be closed source or ban developers who don't abide by their ideology. Blender is under the GPL instead of the MIT for this exact reason, and while godot shouldn't be under the GPL it should also not be MIT, for it to be future proof while still allowing closed source games to be released with it it should be something like the LGPL.

[@scarm_rune]

i actually hope godot 5 becomes proprietary so the people leave it

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

@@scarm_rune wtf man. Why would you wish something so bad to the one free engine which can make based games? Because a woke community manager hijacked the efforts of programmers? The only politics lead devs care about is hardcore opensource, and I doubt they would ever make a restricting license. They only keep going so succesfully because of good will.

[@larion2336]

@@theyellowarchitect4504 If good will is important to them, maybe they shouldn't hire the most cancerous "community managers" possible? Just a thought.

[@ClockworkGearhead]

@@theyellowarchitect4504 They hate us badly enough to go after our children. Why are you appealing to reason to protect people who are unreasonable?

[@iankirby4160]

I believe MPL exists for this reason, the code could be used in either a foss game or closed source like MIT, but the engine code must be open like GPL.

[@danieleccleston7928]

You're kidding right? This was the one engine i had my eyes on... smh, i never thought this would reach as low as game engines. I've wanted to make a custom engine for a while but planned on using at least godot. I'll just stick to learning custom engine dev then.

[@saleth9]

After what happened with Unity, I know many indie developers were switching their game to run on Godot. Not sure they will switch again, seeing as how Godot it is open.

[@crazymcgee3604]

It's open-source so it could be forked by a single user or a group of users who maintain it independently. In this case removing the woke ideology is easy; to use an analogy it would require a mere pruning of the branches as opposed to burning the whole tree down.

[@xerr0n]

@@crazymcgee3604 yeah its not too bad i think, just eff em.

[@ThatGuyNamedRick]

My team is switching to STRIDE3D but I'm too tired at this point to learn a whole new engine. I'm tired boss.

[@skaruts]

To be clear, this only means the community is managed by woke people, not that the engine itself is woke. The engine doesn't impose any creative limitations on you. You can still do whatever you want with it. Heck, even Hitler could use Godot if he was alive, to do whatever he wanted. He just might not be welcome in the discord and other Godot community places.

[@riverblack123]

That's so fucking sad man.

[@Void-Saint13]

Would be a shame if they get the "Hatred Effect" 😈.

[@VoltitanDev]

While I don't agree with the politics of Godot's community manager Godot has been a decent tool in bringing life to my dream game.

[@riverblack123]

Im glad to hear that, I hope the game you're working on is successful.

[@ali32bit42]

yes. while some features are neglected by the team, for the price of free its really good for what were getting

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

Community managers are often w**e as they love to have controll over people and what they can say.

[@Rexanity_0]

Agreed, I just wanted to make a game

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

@@Rexanity_0 Lol youtube removed the comment for no reason ...

[@Mawral]

The engine is 'okay' in its current state and free with no catches, I'm sure a range of people will continue to use it. But its core community is absolutely on-board with identity politics, and I have to wonder if it's alienating some would-be contributors from making the engine even better. Godot is not a product, though, so critiquing it as though it's a paid product comes across as entitled. You fix the issues you have with godot by contributing the fixes yourself, or donating and requesting someone headhunts them. Course there's also layers to it, some won't consider donating as an option if there's a risk of their money being spent on activism instead of the engine. And blocking any game developer on the official socials is an odd look regardless.

[@matejharmunt8725]

as far as their community goes shilling identity politics may not be the worst idea, as policing potential contributors and blocking them is the bigger problem

[@JAOResnik]

I gotta give props to the Godot community manager. He made a post where people can neatly organize their woke garbage games into a list so people can more easily know what to boycott.

[@thespider7898]

Oh yeah, I was so annoyed about the people not understanding that its a FOSS engine that I didnt even think of that. Nice

[@diligencehumility6971]

The official response is a joke. "We were attacked... We are victims!" No. Your staff attacked people, faced backlash, and now claims to be a victim. The fact Godot takes the side of this moderator is just insane 100% crazy

[@muhdiversity7409]

Well, so happy I didn't waste time learning that platform. This is why we can never have nice things.

[@sporter527]

Sad!

[@wingedflyingforce5139]

what platform do you use?

[@linus116]

Ghost of Yotei is woke garbage, don’t be naive gamers.

[@Radek494]

Exactly wokies at Sucker Punch knew exactly who they hired

[@missilecarrier]

Just sit down and wait, until the inevitable "I told you so" moment arrives.

[@Blockhead2]

The schizophrenia induced by the w0ke movement should be really studied. One individual with m3ntal illness induces other people to have m3ntal illnesses, simply amazing.

[@kunka592]

@@missilecarrier Same shit with GTA6, but it will still sell like hotcakes because it's GTA.

[@dragonmaster1360]

@kunka592 I know it'll sell well, but could you imagine the message it'll send if it didn't? The uproar? The furor it will cause? Wokies will be going NUTS, and it'll be a massive wakeup call to so many people. It would, in a very real sense, be the apogee of "get woke, go broke" if a game like GTA could fail for it.

[@puck8961]

Oh goddamit

[@polackdyn]

Godotdamnit.

[@sergeantsapient]

Yeah. My reaction exactly. Fortunately for me I don't hang out in their community so the devs inane opinions on DEI have very little impact on me and since all of the other game engines out there are also "contaminated" it's probably not going to impact resource management that much yet.

[@ClokworkGremlin]

Godot is (currently) the least bad of well known game engines from a business standpoint. The alternatives are Unity (HAH!), Unreal (owned by Tencent and went woke years ago), and making your own. This isn't going to make me stop using Godot, but I'm definitely not going to be donating any money going forward. [edit]Man, blocking someone for saying "Hey, this bug is really delaying my project" is really petty and not a good look at all, and the worst part is, Godot actually has a history of this sort of thing.

[@kusog3]

in some of my small scale project's, I was proud to show the Godot logo, BUt now I'm sooo tired of all these identity politics and drama attracting DEI activists using it to farm engagement, I might even consider going back to Libgdx...

[@SchemingGoldberg]

Woke people are horrible people? I'm shocked, shocked I say! Okay, not that shocked.

[@JohnnyThund3r]

Yeah... this whole thing was pretty distressing. I spent the last ~3 months learning Godot and I've gotten pretty good at coding in it. Then this happens and you realize you can't really trust the people making your engine... and looking into it, there is some very systemic issues going on with the Godot Foundation that all sounds pretty bad. I'm gonna keep using the engine, but only because I see so many people saying "Lets Fork Godot!" and hopefully that will translate to a healthy level of support going forward... which was one of the primary reasons I picked Godot to begin with!

[@ClokworkGremlin]

@@JohnnyThund3r Yeah, it's actually part of why this doesn't really shock me. If you knew what to look for, Godot was showing flags years ago. If someone decides to fork it, I will definitely take a look at that. I bet the first things they'll change are all the changes that Godot's lead devs rejected over the last few years. (improved collision detection, going back to Bullet physics, and fixing bitmap fonts) Ultimately, their two choices right now are: Slam it into reverse so hard the transmission drops out, fire the social media manager, and apologize for the blatant publicity misstep, or learn that even a free project funded entirely by donations is not immune to capitalism.

[@andrehashimoto8056]

Gowok is an Open Source engine. Hopefully a Fork pops soon enough.

[@1234_Flux]

I would argue that making non woke games and openly dunking on Godot while using the Godot Engine is rather poetic. It's not like they're making you pay a subscription or anything.

[@hakjobtm7472]

'Oh, people assume the worst from us? Better prove them right!'

[@lcmiracle]

The fact that engine refused to implement native C/C++ support in favor of it own, completely worthless language that is useless everywhere else, already showed me how untrustworthy they are

[@wailfulcrab]

They added c# instead

[@Dwyriel]

cuz Microsoft was directly funding that

[@ali32bit42]

c++ is supported trough GDextension . you just need to do some setup

[@funguy398]

Gdscript is basically python.

[@lcmiracle]

@@ali32bit42 Why do I need to use the Goddamned extension when C/CPP should have been supported by default, due to how popular it is? Why in the name of hell should I write code in VScode/VS studio as well as using the Goddot GUI? Why is Goddot stupid?

[@19Evangelion96]

And with magical coincidences - Unity Engine a few days ago - went back to the old license plan, without bs of cents per installation, but at the same time they did not change a "under $200k - free, without subscription". (In back in a day, even before horrible changes it was only $100k limits.) And also a Unity 6 - is on development. So...

[@doniarts]

Godot is a free and Open source game engine so peeps should not really worry about that and can still use the game engine. Heck if you wanted to you can even Fork it (which most probably wont due to to how much time that would take). Also Godot has been pretty transparent in what they update on their website and the same thing about their priorities it's the same way with Blender where you wont get all you want updated since in projects like that you do need people to maintain it. But something is wrong tho that community manager is not doing Godot any favor. Also here's some context Apparently the initial tweet was made cause someone in a thread said this "It makes sense doesn't it? Woke studios always use pre built engines to make games because they can't build their own engines."

[@silverhawkscape2677]

Thankfully Godot is Open Source. Meaning we can just make a Fork that.

[@5uperM]

RIP GoDot. Truly nothing is safe.

[@GodotNoContext]

Thanks for the video! I used to be a Godot maintainer, and honestly, I never gave much thought to all the 'woke' stuff-until their toxic ideology started impacting me too. I feel like I wasted years of my life contributing to this project, and now I'm ashamed of it. Silencing maintainers, contributors, and users doesn't lead to a better product. Indeed, you can be banned simply for disagreeing on technical aspects of the engine, which has nothing to do with political stuff. If you're interested, my channel has some satirical videos about Godot that you might want to check out!

[@ladyville3]

The problem with a woke game engine is when they possible will try to say you cant use the engine to make a game they might consider "problematic". We that can be almost anything now a days. Why I stop using character creator and unreal engine. Imagine putting the work in to be told you cant use their tools. The chance is slim they do that but, imagine being that person.

[@railmacher1303]

It's like what Epic is doing for their Unreal Engine with all the changes to programming code naming due to them being "offensive".

[@J0derVIVIVI]

Not slim, just the shareholders and higher up not "feeling" safe doing it. The moment they do, it will happen. Same as we nexus mods not allowing some mods

[@blindedjourneyman]

Just fork it and say you do allow any game with your fork.

[@blindedjourneyman]

​@@railmacher13034.27 is still peak paper2d works great and its before the 5.x wrongthink updates started

[@theyellowarchitect4504]

what? its fully opensource, godot devs cant restrict any project. It is not a service or a license , like Unity/Unreal.

[@york4815]

i used this game engine and liked it because of the simplicity of creating a project. However, I needed some help from the community because I wasn’t understanding certain aspects and encountered several bugs in the engine. Unfortunately, the Godot community is extremely uncomfortable and toxic, with a form of toxic positivity. You can’t say anything bad about the project, and if you don’t use a pronoun in your bio, or if someone asks your pronoun and you say something like “male,” you are banned. Additionally, they engage in gatekeeping; you cannot have a different opinion. If you criticize, you are banned. Research and see the number of people banned from this community for extremely trivial reasons. Some advice, get out of this environment, there are countless better options and if you wish, feel free to destroy this place or create a fork. Edit: many people will say that it is open source, in fact it is, but they are aiming for profit, many people probably wanted projects to free tools in Godot, they were banned, they are nothing more than a company but work without pay

[@4566Iggy]

Man I should really invest in making my own engine now.

[@Gizrah]

Man, Godot's Discord has been rainbow colored for over 2 years now, since the meme started that "oh it's July 1st, 0.00, gotta turn the gay off on twitter". They've been full of all kinds of ... creatures... forever. It's an open source project, so it automatically attracts many kinds of people, including the shouting ones.

[@JudgeNicodemus]

The Godot based fork is imminent.

[@thespider7898]

There are many many forks, I have my own fork with a couple minor edits

[@muhdiversity7409]

2:45 But Vee, I would have thought the Godot developers would be incredibly happy seeing developers TRANSITION between game engines. You know the problem with woke platforms? They see NotC's everywhere and you trying to use that platform will be subjected to purity tests as you try to find solutions to technical problems while the platform owners look through your social media to root out wrong think.

[@Xahnel]

It's open source and free, they have literally no power.

[@kusog3]

@@Xahnel yeah they can't really stop you from using their engine, but if people doesn't voice out concerns it might turn into an echo chamber and their dev team starts to think maybe our GDscript isn't inclusive enough, should we censor words no-no words now? I already saw a python contributor banned from liking a comedy skit which is apparently not allowed by Python's Code of Conduct.

[@felix_xb]

@@Xahnel he means they'll ban you from accessing forums or support places where other members of the community might congragate as a way to blackmail you into the idiology.

[@Xahnel]

@@felix_xb ban me from what, an individual group on a website that lets you create free accounts? Lol. Lmao, even.

[@dale117]

Context: Someone made a reply tweet claiming woke games always use a pre-built engine, and making your own game engine is apparently anti-woke, at least according to them. This was in response agreeing with someone else saying that a 3rd person wasn't a real game developer because they're using Unreal Engine 5 for their game. The Godot Engine account was mocking that tweet.

[@Doppier]

No context needed. An official game engine account should not delve into this kind of stuff. Ever. Trying to justify is just cope.

[@dale117]

@@Doppier it's not a justification. It's just stating the facts. I think what they did is cringe, too.

[@legokirbymanchannel]

That's some insane Twitter logic. Although, what more could you expect? Blocking all criticism was a faux pas anyhow.

[@wingedflyingforce5139]

@@legokirbymanchannel wait, which part is insane? I thought everything was confusing

[@legokirbymanchannel]

@@wingedflyingforce5139 The whole "pre-build engine = woke" logic is insane. Even Nintendo uses UE5 in their games.

[@alexs2195]

Lets build the Chadot, a new godot branch and community just for the chads

[@alexs2195]

Our engine logo can be just the godot robot in a chad version like the chad squid hahaha would be funny as hell

[@da_roachdogjr]

This is not an issue, the people responsible for the project are replaceable. This is on the MIT license: You can distribute unmodified and changed versions of Godot Engine, even commercially and under a different license (including proprietary) Someone with will and a brain can just take the entire code and redistribute it. (including you reading this)

[@kathrineici9811]

Can we edit the main engine to use naughty words as keywords >:)

[@da_roachdogjr]

@@kathrineici9811 yes, you can do that

[@andrehashimoto8056]

What each License type means? MIT? LGPL? Wut? It being Open source is the sole grand grace. This reminds me of the Fediverse thing, made by Extremus Leftustos who drank their own Kool Aid arounf Mandarim Man's first round in the POTUS seat, all for the fear of their self projected fears of censorship and Social Medias being weaponized as a tool to silence dissent. Only for it to become the go-to for disenfranchised non Leftustos or those wanting an actually uncensorable platform.

[@m.a6416]

It has been amusing to watch companies gradually burn in real time due to inept hirings, from Boeing to movie studios to game companies. They infested industries built by talent and thought that highly optimized ship can steer itself forever.

[@EnderCrypt]

Thats sad, i was really hopping for a succesful open source game engine that doesent pick politics/side/ company, but oh well, will just pick something else

[@thespider7898]

An open source project cant pick sides, you can just fork it. Thats kind of the whole point of open source projects lmao

[@qwertyman321]

At least you open source so we can make are own.

[@acetraker1988]

No Police - is an idea until these idiots need the police to protect them in their safe gated communities.

[@RaceBandit]

They don't know how to imagine those hypothetical situations.

[@PcGamerHero]

This makes me feel like I made the right call not to hop on the hype train and instead to stick with Unity. There are things that I like about GODOT as an engine, but it felt undercooked for me. And with this...I would rather work with a greedy corporation than with an open-source project trying to tell me what games I am or am not allowed to make.

[@ClockworkGearhead]

I mean, your options were woke and woke. There was no "right" choice, unfortunately.

[@Ketchup_And_Rice]

This is why I never trust idealists: Become fully (emotionally and what not) invested in an ideal and your sense for everything else becomes muddled and biased towards said ideal....well that or your a con artist milking upon hapless mindless sheeple that are just as invested (conned) to an ideal Its usually the latter

[@JohnnyThund3r]

I've forked Godot just in case... I'm not gonna make my own game engine and Bevy isn't ready yet.

[@OneWayTwoBrazil]

Godot fumbled having an entire year to innovate their product after Unity imploded. Now that I see that the company has been infested by activists, it’s beginning to make sense why the updates were staggered. I’m still optimistic for the future of the engine, but these companies need to severe these toxic community managers immediately.

[@thespider7898]

Its a FOSS project, and the people flooding over from Unity were mostly garbage. You can just fork the engine if you want, its free so the foundation gets no money from your sales

[@zsheets7483]

The community manager for Godot ought to be fired on the spot. This is the thing about an open source project like Godot. Other people can fork it and start a new project from the same base. This allows progress to be made on the features the users actually want and cuts out the Marxists rotting the original project. Bottom line, when you make an open source product, anger your customers, and said customers are people who also know how to write code, that's a special kind of stupid.

[@ИнокентийВасильевич-ц5ч]

I just installed Godot in Unity's stead...are they fucking kidding me?

[@SamuelReang-]

Be a Chad and use Pi-game

[@ali32bit42]

it doesnt matter. godot is open source. it doesnt have any way to block you from using it.

[@are3287]

It's just a free to use game engine, you arent paying them by using it.

[@Richforce1]

@@are3287 Paying attention which is plenty bad. I say unplug, flee to the mountains and live off the land until the second coming.

[@ThatGuyNamedRick]

STRIDE or Manta, that's what I'm seeing.

[@mhytedits8799]

Looks like the creator of Godot dosen't like politics and prefers staying out of it.People who got wrongfully blocked are reaching out to him so the ones who run the twitter page might get in trouble

[@kusog3]

that's the right decision, all these identity politics just bring unnecessary identity political drama and attract the worst DEI activists who uses it to farm engagement and grift...

[@Doppier]

Nah that's just cope. Nothing gonna happen to the freak.

[@Spartan322]

@@Doppier Probably not, but the engine is MIT and so far the engine itself doesn't have any DEI mandated crap in it, concerning but despite being banned from their discord for saying "gender is biologically determined and 'he' is linguistically neutral" in my bio, its been an otherwise useful engine.

[@MontySlython]

​@@Spartan322did you say stuff to them in the discord and they checked your bio or something? Thats some wild shit banning you for your bio.

[@Spartan322]

@@MontySlython No, it had nothing to do with talking in the discord though I did occasionally talk and help people on it, I know I wasn't banned for anything else because one of the moderators specifically contacted me and said "please change your bio as its offensive or you have to leave" and I said "I'd rather leave" and left amicably, but it does mean that so long as my bio is what it is I am functionally banned.

[@sarahsturgill9262]

Makes me wonder who's donating the most money to Godot.

[@ChaosAngelZero]

Remember when people swore they would ditch the Unity Engine and switch to Godot? ... Pepperidge Farm remembers.

[@are3287]

Didn't unity reverse their decision?

[@JohnnyThund3r]

I would still use Godot over Unity... if I was gonna switch to a proprietary engine, I would just use Unreal.

[@ClockworkGearhead]

They did switch. Now most are just going to remove the start-up splash stream. Yes, Godot is a game engine, but their power is gone once they uploaded it due to their licensing. You can even package Godot with your game, nothing they can do about it, unless they change licenses, but that will only affect future versions.

[@yagsipcc287]

Isn't it amazing how the whole entertainment industry loves to insult, attack and demean the very people they require to live and have a job? I mean it is mind blowing then they play the victim when it all falls apart.

[@ISuperI]

this is why we can't have nice things seems like making your own game engine (and all the pain it takes) is the way to go now at least in the open source world, one can always git clone and do it yourself

[@CarTastic-fv6eo]

You can use Beevy or similar API's or just write it from the ground up but it would take a lot of time.

[@JohnnyThund3r]

No... come on, that's a terrible idea, unless you plan to make a game engine and not an actual game. Better off forking Godot and tweaking everything to your liking then to start from scratch. Unless you like to suffer for the next ~8 years only to get to the same place you would've gotten in Godot when you opened it on the first day!

[@florindancaci6678]

Do not argue with these people. On the contrary, be polite and wish them luck by saying "May the people you cater to be the ones that buy and enjoy your product". That's it.

[@jacktyger5436]

I will never understand the obsesion that companies have with self-sabotaging

[@Blunthammer]

ESG loans

[@enforcerridley158]

Out of touch suits want "what the kids are into" to make more money, confusing it it for "forward thinking," not realizing that they simply don't get "what the kids are into." How "out of touch" are these suits? Many don't even know how to open a cardboard box.

[@Blunthammer]

@@enforcerridley158 they live in a different reality. This is the problem with most people in positions of power.

[@blooocki]

​​@@enforcerridley158also there's a lot of people that wanna pave a way into our kids pants. The green party of Germany for example has been caught twice having long term plans to legalize pdf-filea. Once in the 70s and then again in 2014

[@anthropicandroid4494]

What's hilarious is that the Godot team is protesting other developers forking their open source repo! Lol it's like people who should be starting a for-profit company but think "non-profits==good" and proceed to waste years of their life by that mis-label.

[@teh1archon]

September 2024 is the date month Unity made a comeback, first by reverting completely the retardation of the run-time fee, and second by letting their biggest rival (to whom they lost most developers to) shoot itself in the leg just when all the eyes are set on them to out-do Unity. I don't think many people will ditch Godot over it but oh boy they opened the flood gates for devs to question their loyalty to the engine and rather they should keep using it over a dozen other free+SC/free/freemium/premium alternatives.

[@Volkaer]

Plenty of developers dumped Unity when they did the whole "we want to charge you for every download" thing - regardless of how much they learned to use said engine or how far in the development their game was. I personally know two who did exactly that, and they both say that switching to unreal was the best thing they've ever done purely on the ability of what they can do in their games.

[@progste]

They have been for a while. If you want to make your own game you are better off learning a bit of programming. It may be harder when you start but in the long run you will have more freedom.

[@Dreamhaxor]

Making your own engine isn't really a feasible option these days, as you would have to put in resources to learn all of the physics involved, the way textures interact with 3d models, the way light propagates in/on/off different surfaces, even just the simple effect of how to accurately project a 3d space onto a 2d screen, and then to know all of the efficient algorithms to make all of this executable in viable time frame. Even if you ignore 3d games and stick with just 2d, there is a lot involved in how animations are processed, how to depict what is shown on what pixel etc. This is why even something like Flash is an engine that handles difficult low tier stuff. Modern game design is standing on the shoulders of 40 years of development.

[@progste]

@@Dreamhaxor there are libraries for those.

[@Dreamhaxor]

@@progste There is little difference between collecting those libraries and using an engine.

[@kaden-sd6vb]

ughhhhhhhh. can we just quarantine california from the rest of the world and be done with it?

[@Ginfidel]

WHY WHY WHY WHY

[@FoxyCAMTV]

Elite are always dreaming of taming the world like dogs so that nobody can question there absolute power and privilege.

[@J0derVIVIVI]

You were too tolerant. You did not hold the gate. You still to refuse to be raycist. You demonized and not paid attention to those warning you. etc.

[@SchemingGoldberg]

"Tolerance is the final virtue in a dying world"

[@cheeseburgersuperior1874]

it's weird that company didn't made a disclaimer about them not having the same beliefs and opinions with the people they work with.

[@Crucial_End]

Godot is open source so they cant really do anything to enforce it though which is good

[@Plasmagon99]

I just switched from Unity to Godot because I felt they had better business practices, then this happens.

[@MasterOssy]

Isn’t godot an open source engine? If that’s the case then ppl will use the older version.

[@Gatrehs]

we can just fork it and continue development from where it is now, it's an MIT license.

[@sean7221]

Its just the community manager being gay and throwing a tantrum over hormone blocker price increases, the game engine is amazing though

[@MasterOssy]

@@sean7221 it’s always the little thing.

[@PeterDanielBerg]

@@sean7221 so now they hate paid mods huh

[@thespider7898]

Yeah, theres literally thousands of forks

[@大-g4b5]

Why is California like this?

[@maicoxmauler2825]

I expect nothing less of the engine that ported sonic colors to the switch.

[@MrCjosue24]

And here I wanted to try that engine after I get a better PC, but looks like I'm not gonna use that engine anymore

[@Alpha13yt]

Open-source and Woke do not mix well together. We will se which one gets thrown in the garbage bin first

[@nBp4tB12]

I mean, it's open source. The wokeness of open source programs is not so important. Because you can either not support it with money and still use it, or just fork it.

[@CoryRwtfyt]

Well, shit. I started using godot because it was open source and rpg maker looked like complete dogshit. Unreal- ceo hates linux, see rocket league Unity- can’t trust them due to the pay to install bs Godot- went woke Rpg maker- dumpster fire Guess I’ll just toss it all.

[@york4815]

Use Bevy; it’s my recommendation if you are getting familiar with Rust. It will be perfect for you. It’s still in development, but research it to see the projects you can create with it-they rival Unreal, and it even has a nanite technician. However, there are other alternatives, like MonoGame, which is great for 2D and can use C#. It also supports 3D but without as many features. Among hundreds of other free software options, Godot is the worst, mainly due to its instability. Besides private software, if you want to become a developer or work with games, there are plenty of options. Stop holding beer, and go program

[@ThatGuyNamedRick]

Looks like I'm breaking out GAMEBRYO again. STRIDE3D does look promising though.

[@JohnnyThund3r]

I'm just gonna keep using Godot... as everyone keeps pointing out, MIT license, the owner of the Godot game engine is ME!

[@Kanookoochn]

Unity dont have pay per install Anymore, just the subscribe price is 8% more

[@JohnnyThund3r]

@@Kanookoochn I would rather make my own game engine from scratch then use Unity.

[@Manja500]

I think the people in this comment section declaring that they have to stop using Godot now or stop learning it are either extremely dramatic or intellectually dishonest. While I agree that who ever runs the Godot twitter is super cringe, godot is open source and has over 2600 contributers and climbing. How exactly does the godot Twitter account being dumb effect the engine in anyway? Its an open source engine, you can fork it at any point if you decide that all 2600 contributers are some how tainted by the left. You guys are being a little ridiculous. And before you accuse me of being woke, im on the right. I just have basic reasoning skills. Not everything has to be the end of the world, pick and choose your battles.

[@drinkwwwaterrr]

I got blocked by the community manager while never directly tagging her. She must be lurking around threads of people disagreeing with her and blocking everyone proactively, she's completely insane and delusional and i do not understand how Godot foundation doesn't see this as a massive PR problem.

[@VioletSilence]

"Everything woke turns into shit" - former and future US president

[@orthodoxcaveman5819]

It's worth mentioning that this is an open source project, and any team willing to do it can just fork the project and do something with it.

[@vaaaaaas]

- this WILL get worse - because you are tolerating it - by merely being angry online

[@megadutcher4107]

Code isn't woke...devs are...Godot is open source, if they force woke crap we'll just fork the project.

[@SoverineSR]

To be fair, I do keep saying people (mostly major companies that can afford to invest the effort) need to stop using pre-built engines and do their own work. But if I decide to be a filthy hypocrite and make something in an engine to 'play around with it and well I already made it so might as well release it', good to know I've got one more engine to avoid.