Sihleeey: "Men Should Hold Onto The Last Bit of Masculinity They Have Left!"

[@Sihleeey]

Thank you for having me Pen🙏🏾 I will always love me some thought provoking conversations 😌

[@Penuelism]

@@Sihleeey always appreciate you. One more sitdown now in January... when you're ready.

[@FakaziKhumalo]

@@PenuelismAwungifakela lengane Bafo mani

[@journeyofme101]

😂😂😂​@@FakaziKhumalo

[@thandiwear]

Pen gonna Marry Sihle and convert her into Islam

[@lesetjatshego5717]

You are good lady

[@Penuelism]

For the record: Sihle asked me to have a conversation this time around, & to pushback. Versus a one-sided interview.

[@MlokothoLanga8]

That's flexible and nice to have than a traditional interview which allows not much of interruption. Iyabulela iLali 🖋️

[@KamoEverythingSA]

I am liking the difference style in content… and I am learning more thus far.

[@nhlakaniphongcobo4692]

Still Panual it was not supposed to be lecture but Konvo, am stuck between blaming you for talking too much or blaming Sihle for not offering her opinions openly and firmly. #DopeEpisode

[@OGLechaba]

You know what Penzo, I differ with you on so many things, but you make so many valid points that keeps me subscribed to your channel.

[@Penuelism]

I appreciate you 🙏🏽

[@johannesbaloyi5161]

Im growing to love Sihle 💐i jxt like how she's so well-informed and being unapologetic about what she believes amd stand for while being humbled

[@moswaromalapane56]

Sihle you're appreciated and celebrated. Keep it going.

[@tsogangmbonani1529]

I love, love that revelation on God’s judgment 🤯🤯. So, so on point and so scriptural Sihle❤.

[@kholofelomatabane6174]

Beautiful conversation.I used to love weaves and all that.I out grew them simply because they were chowing my hairline and i was just tired. I have been on natural hair since 2017.And i must say,it feels great.

[@hlomlaralawe7706]

The Xhosa nation loves you . Siphesihle siyazingca ngawe ntombi❤

[@sithelomagagula5640]

This woman has tremendous wisdom

[@Nawal_SA]

She's tiny but very huge ❤

[@TheDesignedLifeWithShiloh]

"Father Abraham had many sons like Penuel"😂🎉😂 you're funny Pen. Great interview.

[@pascalfx2459]

That dusted me 😂😂😂

[@liziwechantalmlonzi9484]

Loved this... We need to open our eyes to these phenomenons that just mash room in front of our eyes 💔

[@kgodishojulianlekgau3153]

Thank you guys for the sit down. I'm looking forward to the next one🤝

[@herbertmnisi7633]

Great Conversation, Love you Sihle...Pen can you have a Sit Down with Dineo Ranaka please..

[@katlegomokgethi7484]

Rebuke and correct. Interesting words, which I would normally find as a Christian in church. Though what I've come to realize is that as Christians, some find it hard to repent. Repentance goes a long way with many misunderstandings. "My understanding, stand to be corrected" Repentance it is when one is no longer attached to the sin committed and the for one has repentanted. Let your conversation be always full of grace, seasoned with salt, so that you may know how to answer everyone. It's for Christians to pray for sinners to be dettached from sin. Any one can be attached to not aiming high in this challenging times. Dettach from sin. Attach to aim!

[@acceptinglife6491]

I love when you have Sihle over!

[@MlokothoLanga8]

Let me like before I listen to this later on, enkosi Sihle and the team ngobuyela kwelikhasi libaluleke kangaka.

[@AfricaWildNFree]

@Pen i really liked how you adressed the question about black ppl being inferior. Your explanation was well thought out and on point. 👊🏾

[@BetterThanYesterday_za]

I agree on not making it a standard and pushing it on others.

[@mahlaperamahloko2517]

Great conversation. On the issue of initiation schools among the Xhosa Christians, my take is that as long as they don't eat food offered to the idols and consume blood. This is according to the Book Acts 15:28-29. On the issue of choice, the Bible clearly mentions that all things are permissable, but not all things are beneficial. God also says He has presented with life and death, and He says 'choose life'. Sihle is very wise, great conversation once again ❤❤

[@princemfundo7495]

Shout out to you Guys 🇿🇦👌✌️l love the podcast so educational and planting some seeds in our African brains

[@thapelo-jl5pk]

Shoutout to Sihle ✨ and the black pen never disappoints 🔥✊🏾

[@mabhekeshnorush39]

Beautiful conversations 👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

[@lavaconda_]

Sihle hasn't really done a deep dive into these topics, but her heart is in the right place. Once she has done the necessary research, she will be an unstoppable force. Keep it up mogirl.

[@sbahlepops5619]

This comment is unnecessary. There's a trend in SA, especially black Twitter, where people always have to prove their depth, feminism & wokeissm even to the extent of not understanding their fellow SA'ns from different social backgrounds. You may not be Sihle's target, but others are. Find the person who speaks to you & don't belittle others.

[@sbahlepops5619]

Unneccessary. There are people she reaches & understand & find her insightful, This comment is unnecessary cause you could just go to those who've done a deep dive

[@karldrogo9765]

This comment itself is surface level and provides zero insights but we move from people who can give criticism but cannot put their neck out and receive it...

[@RealHaitota]

This Boy is a master of Dope Conversations. Big up Boy🖋🖋

[@mphahamankunyane2804]

Last minutes was dope Pen❤🇱🇸

[@MJG1017]

Great conversation Pen ! Really enjoyed and fully agree with your perspective on Masculine traits as well as the black/dark skin inferiority complexes ! On the Masculine discussion i would add that the conservative Americans are now fighting back woke agendas and Trumps election win might be a significant shift for the Masculine imperative in America.

[@LwandoMpehle]

Yena uSisi unomntu? I kid of course. She's one of the most interesting people to listen to. This should be good to listen

[@Penuelism]

@@LwandoMpehle 🤭🤭🤭

[@CyrilThwala]

I just also dreamt of pillow talk fantasy with such a great mind .., a rare jewel to die for ....

[@HopeMashobane]

She's a good listener.

[@thomasprogli3372]

Although she should do the talking as a guest. Says a lot about the interviewer.

[@sibusisobhebhe7490]

@@thomasprogli3372it is not an interview, she say she wants a conversation

[@FrankMokhine-j5d]

She's so logical more than most men. It's unbelievable that most men can't stand up for masculinity. She's a Godsent!

[@Penuelism]

Judgement: Rebuking vs Condemnation

[@RustyONeil-r2l]

Kind read more on your/the religious studies . Hinduism is the first religion that birth all the abrahamic religions .

[@paballobutelezi5532]

I love Sihle and I agree with a lot of her views ❤

[@Incognito-s3l]

Great conversation ❤❤

[@sembachitibwi5211]

We need more conversations like this, especially with our children. The future is looking very scary with the coming generation. Values , morals, self love, basic wisdom seem to have been thrown out the window for the majority. We need to seriously educate our youth, perhaps too much freedom is a problem and dictatorship is the way to go in order to save our people.

[@sbahlepops5619]

When we talk about masculinity, we need to distinguish between toxic masculinity vs. positive masculinity.

[@mpumimdluli5894]

So, human beings are capable of doing horrible things to each other whether male or female but as society we've made these term "toxic masculinity" and ignored "toxic femininity" as if women are the are the holly species and man are the only ones who do horrible things. So inasmuch as we talk about toxic masculinity we need to also talk about toxic femininity whereby women intentionally do things that provokes man using their beauty and then play victim when man are reacting.......

[@velaphithewarrior6498]

There's no such a crap as toxic musculinity ...there's only aspects of musculinity that are just like in everything... including femeninity ......

[@MossNteo]

Where did you learn that? You just accept things without applying own thinking

[@msizigwala2516]

The point about the cash kontant boys is spot on and disturbing because I also observed it 😢😩

[@RealHaitota]

Thank you for another ONE

[@tutumvalelwa3283]

Love Sihle❤❤❤❤

[@KeaKgasi]

This was such a great & educational conversation 👏🏾👏🏾 My only question is after all this and realising standards set by culture & a system that is against black people. What then should we reference & what standard should we be living by , the campus keeps moving.

[@SEANEDominic]

Dr Abel Damina will give you clear understanding of what christiology 😅 is about,please invite him. Thanks

[@xolanitmabuza5090]

That one is the best

[@wandilebuthelezi2971]

Penuel the Black Pen deserves credit for sparking deep, esoteric conversations and challenging conventional thought. His approach inspires us to think critically about our power and place in the world. S/o for pushing the boundaries of philosophy and encouraging others to recognize the godlike potential within themselves. Psalm 82:6 (KJV) "I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High." Romans 12:2 (KJV) "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God."

[@Cancerous.Romancer]

Great show 👏 👍 👌 🙌 ❤️ 😇😎

[@phamphiletsoalo6101]

Well there are monitizable aspects of things that we are dominant in but unfortunately we do not control the full aspects of those things like you said sports, culture and talent. Those things won't do us any good until we actually own them like others own theirs. Minirals and raw material should also be one of those things. Poeple like President Trouré are those qe can aspire to be.🤷🏽‍♂️ 1:33:50

[@mrsbbzondi3157]

Penuel, you spoke about Islam, however do you not think joining Nazareths (Shembe) requires discipline and can also be good for men? 16:41

[@phathutshedzonevhungoni2951]

L23:24 This is how u correct/judge someone the main thing is to help thing this verse gives the blueprint Matthew 18:15-20: "If your brother sins against you, go and tell him his fault, between you and him alone. If he listens to you, you have gained your brother. But if he does not listen, take one or two others along with you, that every charge may be established by the evidence of two or three witnesses. If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church. And if he refuses to listen even to the church, let him be to you as a Gentile and a tax collector"

[@BOBOZAm111]

A beautiful conversation it was ❤❤ Pen please bring Hakeem Endorson

[@Dimitriibe]

very good question she raised about Islam and muslim, I paused to search it. Islam and Muslim are not the same, but they are related: Islam is the religion, and Muslim is the term for someone who practices Islam

[@keo-xj4lp]

wonderful episode

[@yaonemogwere6995]

Cassper catching strays 🤣😂🥱

[@vovobani1708]

great conversation.

[@nomfundoaphiwe]

The history of makeup and high heels is that it was first worn by men, as a sign of status and to inhance their appearance.

[@BONGANIMO]

Wow.... she's intriguing on that Identity band.

[@lesetjatshego5717]

Pen tell african people the truth about our new year which starts on 21 to 23 September so we are in 2025🎉 as African people

[@mduduzintuli4717]

You platform promotes freedom of intellectual conversations on controversial issues and this is exemplary to that fact. Sihle needs some assistance in scripture referencing her points to improve her apologetics. I would love to be part of next conversation to further elaborate on Christology in relation to "theology" and culture. As for gender identity; cultural norms differ depending on a particular society. In fact Jesus wore a dress and Zulu male traditional clothing is what would be considered a skirt in the contemporary world. Much to discuss. Great rekevant conversation.

[@Bright-r4n]

Pen needs to give his guests time to answer questions without interjecting. It's like he likes listening to himself

[@Penuelism]

@@Bright-r4n she asked me for a conversation instead of an interview.

[@thapedimojapelo5419]

Try to listen in the future, this is not an interview but a conversation

[@afroteen4647]

True

[@Bright-r4n]

@Penuelism Noted, was just saying. Nice show, by the way, brother.👌

[@Bright-r4n]

@thapedimojapelo5419 The fact that I commented means I listened and hoped to hear more from the guest.

[@siphiwomanana8666]

Dope episode

[@officiallivestream123]

Tip for 2025: please try to sound less distracted by your surroundings leave your director to what happens behind the scene 🙏🏽

[@lesetjatshego5717]

Our year as African people starts in 21 to 23 September so we are in 2025🎉

[@lesetjatshego5717]

Not January, January is for western countries

[@Demawi650]

Sihle is our very own Candice Owens❤❤❤

[@thapelo-jl5pk]

Aii no Sihle is very thoughtful and wise I must say, respect her so much for standing for something and intentionally but the black pen 2 it easy on her 😅😅

[@sbongahadebe97]

In actuality, we do have a Christian church that is very similar to Islam in South Africa. The women are submissive, men are usually polygamists as well. The respect of self and others is held at a high regard. Although it leans more to Africanism, it is very much a Christian church. It is called the Nazareth Baptist Church, better known as kwaShembe. As Penuel had already mentioned, Christianity, Islam and Judaism are all Abrahamic religions. It is no surprise that there are many similarities among them. The only difference is that some still hold their values, unapologetically.

[@FIKAMAHLOBO]

WHAT I can say people must do their research because ther are so many book that are published about religion, once you do that you will see how much you don't know.

[@momentseane1949]

Today i have been clarified on the role of hip hop

[@hicallmefrank]

Huh, funny because I'm always "picking fights" with my Christian friends and just yesterday I had a discussion about this with one of them. I'm glad to see these discussions in the public domain especially among Southys.

[@OPED2-c6h]

9:11 if i may penuel, we as Christians believe Jesus is God ,so we are not necessarily only following a person but we are following God aswell ,as Jesus is the embodiment of God

[@ManinSilver]

Penuel my brother , I hope and pray to Allah that you become Muslim. You have spoken what Islam really is and not what the media wants Islam to be.

[@g-zsmaya1510]

54:23 - 57:34 What is said there? 🤫 that 10 seconds is most interesting part

[@kabelo_riba]

I loved the Muslim convo ,please consider inviting a Muslim man maybe we might learn a thing or two.

[@Princess_Lehlohonolo]

Arabiv is the most complex language to translate. A slight lower tone can mean something different hence Arabic is important to us to understand and learn in order to uphold the authenticity of the Quran

[@thisisntokozo]

The Quran is a false book... Jesus is God

[@charlesub1457]

God penuel your guest is just too fast in her speaking, perhaps it's her way of speaking but if she could adjust a bit for my sake and maybe other people who are slow listeners as well. I understand the inconvenience this may cause but if it's possible, she should consider. Thank you. God Penuel thumbs 👍 up for your sacrifice to humanity. May all forces that controls the universe guid you, protect you and work in your favour so all you do towards the uplift of mankind will continue to be a success. 1❤ from Naija

[@AfeniblackBrand]

Afeni black will be interviewed soon here, just waiting to release the book BLACK NATION KNOW YOURSELF

[@lavaconda_]

We must protect Pen for that last speech about blacks.

[@Penuelism]

@@lavaconda_ danko ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽

[@MarcusSawman-q8g]

Why does the audio cut from 54:20 to 54:36?

[@moledwaba2797]

WOW!😮 This platform is important 🔥🔥🔥this was very informative 🥹Sihle is consistent -standing on business. I love it here🫡Telling it like it is.

[@phamphiletsoalo6101]

10:27 i would like to disagree that its the same. Would you say if 2 groups of employees got the same message and the same explaintion and same instructions from the boss. One did it as closesly as possible to the source, then the second one listened to the message but have distorted the source so far that it is barely identifiable from the source, wouldn't that be considered a false represention of the source?

[@phamphiletsoalo6101]

What I'm trying get at (trying atleast ) is that the Abrahamic religions have a lot in common but certain make or break/ core pillars is what ultimately make them WAY! differentwhere they all claim to be the only way🤷🏽‍♂️

[@FIKAMAHLOBO]

Mr Penuel let me say this when we look at genesis verse one it say God created.... but in the companion Bible it says alohim which is a plural that means God's and that get when you ģo to the verse where God created man, it say come let us creat men in our image, ask yourself who is calling, that means he or she was not alone.secondly it shows that moselem chose in a number of gods and chose ALLA as their God as much as other religions chose their gods, because each religion say their God is the only one. And remember religion is about numbers and power just like politics. If you can go back and research that how the religion was instilled to black people you be shocked and you will never defend it.thank your

[@ntokozobiyela8900]

Sphesihle has a beautiful mindset, the type of mindset I teach my daughters, to question things, be knowledgeable and God fearing. She is a great asset to our nation and should 1 day consider getting into the leadership of this country via parliament or goverment. Just a correction Penuel, Christianity we are not following a person in Jesus Christ's. We are following His teaching which are God inspired. Who is God in this instance, the Triune God (God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ and God Holy Spirit) So Jesus Christ is God, who took the nature of man, to redeem us from our fall. When he lived here in planet earth, He lived as God-man. He is the only one out of all religious formations who died and rose again. There is no other.

[@Princess_Lehlohonolo]

As a black muslim ,uright pen We are not regarded as muslims if we dont believe in jesus When we pray we pray to God Allah , Muhammed swt we try to fellow his lifestyle, character n morals Our polygamy fundamentally steams from assisting a suffering widowed women with children. We muslims are basically practicing othodox Christians, if we judge from the 10 commandements

[@thisisntokozo]

You're clearly confused...if you know how much the Quran stole from the bible

[@elijahsokoni7997]

There is no polygamy in Othordox Christianity either. Believing in Jesus is not the issue, it's about believing who he said he was. The claims he made about God and Himself. Muhammad had a very questionable character and morals, I dont think you would want to follow him in this time and day.

[@OGLechaba]

Hmmm... is this Casper we are talking about? @26:30

[@Mncedisir1]

In our African way of life we don’t have two people coming together it’s always about Union of families , hence inyongo is improtant in that union of the families the two characters are just that. Hence they will always be accountable to the family.

[@velaphithewarrior6498]

Pen can you please have Dr Izak khomo historian on your show bro

[@gaomoagi740]

Mr Penuel , as a person who have been following Islamic Afghanistan before the US exit the war obviously. The status of women flexibility and freedom has changed, women are heavily veiled and aren't allowed to even be heard in the streets please give your view on it. One of your short videos will be appreciated, verspoedige nuwe jaar.

[@Nawal_SA]

That guy with 10 kids😂😅 love you Sihle ❤❤❤❤❤

[@pleasant1425]

This is the perfect example of the blind leading the blind This is why we need to know the word of God (the Bible) so we don't say the things this young lady is saying 🙆🏽‍♀️

[@Steadgro]

54:30 no sound

[@BONGANIMO]

Nothing as deadly as a staunch believer. Love her passion tho❤️🙏

[@Ikhayalemiphefumulo]

Pastors also wear dresses which may translate to the same commedy dress skits

[@ThePanel_1]

On the principle part Pen is spot on, lobola does not have a price tag, even if It's 2 goats.

[@HopeMashobane]

You need to have more of these live chats. As a dark skinned person I'm triggered, but this is the truth. We need to be honest with ourselves at some point and do better.

[@thabangraphela4858]

Pen i think the idea for the conversation is that it should leap into how humans should use a mirror

[@KD-us9jm]

Hey Pen, thanks for your very interesting insight on the different levels that each group lies in , but I would like to disagree with your point at 1:28:56 , we can easily get carried away and think Caucasians(whites) are not innovative , but they are very very innovate , from creating tech products like the Internet, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Facebook etc.., the list goes on, to automobile engineering (German car brands, popular British and Italian cars brands) I think white people come up with "most" innovations , and the rest of world create products that either copy or compete with those innovations. That was an interesting take though on the question of how we are at the bottom of the food chain.

[@xolanitmabuza5090]

I agree with her , we are Adam & Eva That's all

[@thapedimojapelo5419]

Penuel, make-up and wigs have nothing to do with the west. Women in the majority of culture/tradition enhance their appearance.

[@Penuelism]

@@thapedimojapelo5419 we can agree to disagree.

[@TheFinancialGarden]

Allah is Arabic and Eloah is Hebrew which is now commonly known as Elohim within Christianity, Which is a Diety. God comes from the Latin root word "Deus", Which means he who shines in the Firmament. NgesiZulu means yena "Oqhakaza Emkhathini", Umkhathi or Firmament is a Spiritual Realm or Heavenly Realm, so God basically means "He who shines above all in the Spiritual Realm". Which is alsa a basic Translation to "Our Father who Art in Heaven", Meaning the Head of the "Spiritual Realm".

[@Penuelism]

Thank you for this 🙏🏽❤️

[@fezilemakhanya2414]

what up with that window in your studio Pen. u must remove it

[@Fat89789]

Just to correct you Pen. Abraham was not the first Jew, the title of being a Jew is connected to Jacob who was also known as Israel. To add onto that, Muslims believe in the same God as Christians and Jews, the difference is that just like Judaism, Islam considers creating partners with God as the most unforgivable sin. Muslims believe in one God and pray directly to him and no one else. And also Muslims believe in the holy scriptures that were revealed to previous messengers such as the Zubur(Psalms) given to Prophet Dawud(David) PBUH, the Towrah(Old Testament) which was given to Prophet Musa(Moses) PBUH, the injeel(parts of the new testament) given to the messiah Isa(Jesus) and finally the revelation given to the prophet Muhammad PBUH in the Quran. The prophet Muhammad PBUH, did not bring about a new religion rather he was bringing a message to bring people back to worshiping God and God alone as Christian had diverted from Jesus’ PBUH teachings.

[@Penuelism]

@@Fat89789 thank you for sharing 🙏🏽

[@metsepowermohlopi6299]

Is Mr Penuel a Muslim? he is vouching for the religion..😊😊

[@thapelo6796]

😂😂 “Xhosa guys come as you are, you will repent”

[@FIKAMAHLOBO]

Dear sihle I know that you grow up already the religion was up and running so I don't blame you but don't ignore the truth, remember that if you believe you believe some thing that you don't know whether it exists on not but if you know some things you don't have to defend it because you know it and it's true. Thank you.

[@Mncedisir1]

The problem is that you that’s both the host and guest call the African religion, culture or tradition , which is far from it. The African way of life which is what you call religion was unfortunately not written but it is well documented.

[@ditiloshupinyaneng9362]

Loving Sihle…needs 2 beef 🥩 up siting of scripture…but I get it …there’s still a way to go…👏🏿📿…I send her(Sihle) energy & ✌🏿💚 but until we understand on the Jewish - Islamic - Christianity or the path that embraces African spiritual systems, it’s all languages of engaging the supreme light of source…🤷🏿…choose a path with meaning & become interesting…there’s no rules to making a choice but internal resonance(emotive choice) has to be the only rule that matter with self.

[@Sepharate04_FxT]

40:32 The Natural State Of A Woman Is Chaos and in chaos there's a huge potential of creativity. Woman are creators!!! -Abba Ayalew Amlak @sihleey You need to learn a little bit more about yourself and leave masculinity to us. We are not toxic, you woman programed us this way!