Why Community Is Key To Wealth Building │ Orania Doesn't Have A Currency

[@misstownes]

“They are victims of conditioning” well said. Every point you made is true. We have the same struggle and issues in America. It’s crazy how our issues mirror each other. We all have been divided and conquered by colonizers. It’s up to us to change the culture.

[@petrushilumbwa4588]

The way she is picking and smiling with Penuel 😊

[@MissXsmiles]

I feel like these two tend to have “moments” that can be seen from the eyes 🫣

[@MissCombs1511]

I go to or past Orania regularly.. There is somewhat of an enclosure, but not guarded, gated or boomed. At the entrance there is a welcome board and it has rules on how to behave. Just outside that light enclosure is a string of shops including a coffee shop via haberdashery. I travel with my team and we go there for their heavenly milkshakes (take note). The Rand is exactly equal to the Orania (like Rand and Lesotho's Maloti). You can swipe your normal bank card as well. They greet Black people with respect, ask where you are from or to. Only a few Afrikaners will stare, but one doesn't feel threatened. Inside Orania are houses the Afrikaners built themselves. Like a housing complex. It is clean and quiet, very few houses have fences. As they drive past each other, they greet habitually. It's what Pen says: thought out, left what doesn't work economically, not just racist individuals.

[@Penuelism]

@@MissCombs1511 love this comment 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@MuzorewaRatshikuni]

​@@Penuelism On a completely different note, Penuel, we should talk about lobola from a biblical perspective, and how that runs counter to cultural perspectives.

[@OrganicRingas]

Loving the impact of Penuel by visiting more podcasts like NOTA and growing his brand as a broadcaster/Podcaster... Your opinions really matter even though I may disagree with you but you are appreciated by us thinkers..

[@Lion_of_J.u.d.a]

Peneul was thee "Capital" in this conversation...lol.. I took away a lot from this episode...Its rare to see Ursula glued in and taking it all in as Penuel dish up his thoughts.

[@Mseleku1]

@@Lion_of_J.u.d.a She really "Took it all in"

[@zodiye6621]

Ey muhle lo Sisi...konke ne voice❤

[@Mseleku1]

Penuel is underrated. Lomjita unzima

[@MissCombs1511]

People like hating on him because of his personal life or his non-sheepish views. He is very underrated!

[@Penuelism]

​@MissCombs1511 I appreciate you 🙏🏽❤️

[@Penuelism]

Ngibonge mfwethu 🙏🏽

[@Mseleku1]

@@MissCombs1511 Waaah ngathi behlulwa ezabo izimpilo

[@Mseleku1]

@Penuelism Dankie.Which books do you recommend I should read ?

[@anastasimankesemokgobu1724]

Pen is really smart, and I agree with him, we can learn a lot even from people we disagree with

[@tshepisosoetsane4857]

Woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow i enjoyed this episode this is what I need us as blacks to discuss and share information amongst each other amazing love this

[@MfundoTheFellowActuary]

With regards to the stockvel, personally think black people can use them to have a portion in these big companies instead of buying food for 60k at the end of the year Use the 60k to buy equity either for capital gains or dividends, these stockvels can be used to turn around alot of things and can help employees to move into being business owners, the same thing can be done for property

[@Penuelism]

Great idea... except you don't have control. Capital gains aren't guaranteed, and neither are dividends.

[@MfundoTheFellowActuary]

@Penuelism The stockvel sector alone is worth around 45bn, which is about 11.5bn monthly,hence, it is becoming a very important piece of pie for these institutions. However, we can not consilidate these funds as people do stockvels for different number of reasons Maybe we can look at businesses that have actual cash flow towards the investors and not just acruals such as capital gains.

[@genesistradingintact1946]

Whenever penuel is here he always has to be reminded that this is a family friendly show 😂😂😂

[@Penuelism]

🤭🤭🤭

[@wetive9533]

This could be a whole semester 🤝

[@KgotsoGongota]

I Think One Thing that's Missing from Discussions like this is: How do you Prepare yourself for the Reality of Actually being on this entrepreneurship path whether as an individual or as a collective? .. Cause this idea can resonate and push one to actually START, and then the Reality of it demands to be felt. How does one sustain the Will and the Mindset when the Reality that Maslow's Hierachy of Needs does have a Gravitational pull, Psychologically and also when you Look at this Economy?

[@LM-he7eb]

He said husbands shouldn't be bound to their wives. But, now he is implying that people should be bound to communities. He said women must not work & focus on building the home. While saying marriage is a prison that he will not enter into. Then he said women should learn to stand on their own. After the Bathu sneaker wife saga. THE HE SPOKE BADLY OF SHAKA BUILDING THE ZULU NATION. WHILE UPHOLDING ORANIA FOR A BUILDING A LITTLE TOWN. Why channels like TCC continues to entertain him is beyond me. Thank God Lebo Lion exited this walking contradiction. He did drop some gems though

[@Phutz]

Pen i appluad your social entrepreneur thinking. Its a pity people that you try to uplift when you move in that sense dont get it. Ive been in that space for many years n alot of good came from it. But it can be very draining, helping people that dont know they need the help is the most difficult thing..

[@babxaba]

I agree with Penuel, there is Free Will offering. Typically, it means doing it out of your free will with an open heart.

[@LavidaSolosofi]

Side note, the way we gloss over the royal bafokeng family and the Zulu monarch as examples of business excellence is part of what's holding us back, only contemporary examples are used as if the traditional ways can't get you wealthy

[@janetetiese2389]

Ouu🥺 It's My fav channel on the internet again🥺♥️

[@kuhleteady4418]

Pen is busy there throwing in sight full information thanks brother as always 🙏 👍 Ursula is a rare combo 😮❤ beauty with the brain 😅

[@mondehlongwane1567]

8:25...I do the same thing.

[@yaonemogwere6995]

Pen and Ursula just wanted to provoke Mmusi with that "get out" movie 😂😅

[@Shockprotect]

Excellent!!!

[@evansmbithi4444]

Where are the other panelists not visible?

[@wetive9533]

Yoh Penuel 😂😂 "I am giving people this advice, where possible consider the crime available at your disposal" 😂😂😂

[@makhomhlanga]

So dope makes me look intonit more and practice it

[@sihawukelesihawukele102]

Ursula is gorgeous yoh😍🔥

[@vusmuzimasilela2358]

Hello Ses Ursula I'm sorry been watching all along forgot to subscribe but I just did🎉❤

[@mrmanq9517]

Such a crucial conversation that needs to be had 1. Lobola needs to be standardized at R10 000 to avoid debt. Or play indishi like the Zulu's, where people attending the wedding give gifts or money to assist the couple 2.Make trading share compulsory in schools, even if its a demo account. This will make ppl conscience of whats happening in the business world 3. Every tribe should have a bank of its own- VBS cannot be the death of the idea of having black owned banks 🔥

[@Penuelism]

Great points 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@MuzorewaRatshikuni]

​@@Penuelism Lobola must stop being practiced! Full stop!. Separate development (i.e ethnicity based businesses) is not the way to go.

[@victorsoul7174]

Yerr! very juicy convo 👌👌 I have to make at least 5 people to watch this

[@ObakengMekgwe]

can we have those churches that have a business section after church

[@mokonehlokisi9945]

I enjoyed this episode, Pen is so smart that is why he is being attacked so much on social media. I think people must take time and try to assimilate his content, they are missing the greatness in this guy... I also hope to see how his son with Ursula will look like....

[@MissCombs1511]

That last line 😂😂 I also think they'd look sooooooo good together. But lemme shoosh, I have lost count of how many times Penuel has warned me.

[@Penuelism]

👀👀👀👀👀 it was going so well...

[@MissCombs1511]

@@Penuelism I'm tired of apologising to you 😂😂😂 just know I never mean disrespect to you. Ever. I'm a habitual matchmaker. Kodwa ngiyaxolisa Mlotshwa... again! 🙏🏾

[@Penuelism]

@MissCombs1511 🤭🤭🤭 no harm done... thank you, momma 🙏🏽❤️

[@mokonehlokisi9945]

​@@MissCombs1511 Ursula can't stop crushing on Pen..... So Pen must do his job and we will celebrate with him after....

[@deokamara4695]

Looking for the "founders,builders and maintainers".Can't find it among the uploaded episodes @theconversationcapital

[@kuhleteady4418]

Check it if i remember vividly you will see a dark guy wearing a hat, it's around 30min it's not too long. Quite very informative that one 👏

[@Afterskoolislit]

Talking about change, we have been involved in youth development programs and we believe we need each other to grow. How can I reach you to communicate further

[@MenziKhuzwayo]

alot of our powerful sectors in the black community are not formal or journaled. taxi bosses just make money because Black people use their business, and not because they have competition, any comp they remove via blood....churches are the same, pastors are not business people, but they have access to money. so how can people who have no value for the creation of money to fund and drive capital building within the community.

[@LM-he7eb]

Many white big corps in SA also remove competition by blood

[@Joystick011]

Penzo,this one aint for you homie

[@Penuelism]

😭😭😭😭😭

[@theconversationcapital]

Thank you ❤

[@theconversationcapital]

@@Penuelism😅

[@zilindogomes1767]

In depth episode

[@S.P.H.E]

Sbonge 🙌🏾

[@mthokozisimyende787]

I Hate to be that guy but Ursula muhle bafethu, Dope conversation by the way, really eye opening

[@fromthemayorsperspectiveZA]

She is...100%

[@devrolll]

Hello hi favssss❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉

[@nomvulangozo4277]

Jeerrr! TCC❤❤❤❤

[@ditiloshupinyaneng9362]

Itshotsho…✌🏿😉…this is the way…🇿🇦you cannot ignore..✌🏿truth🤞🏾

[@sloasadney8066]

We need Nota on your show

[@joymofokeng5440]

Just subscribed

[@DOPEREACT5990]

This is dope.

[@WilliamChalaka-e9i]

Politicians live in orania as well .I don't see the difference

[@sitholebertha]

Boom❤❤❤❤

[@Mseleku1]

I think Forex is one of the fastest ways to make it to the top.Last month,I had R200 on my account, but today it's R30k. However, it needs someone who knows his story.We all should find what we're good at.Maybe you're busy wasting ur time studying, kanti u are a business person

[@NtokozoJohannes]

Can you please teach me?

[@LM-he7eb]

Black people have beeeen build communities from scratch. Most amakhaya were build from scratch by black people. Decades ago, Venda was just dust. TODAY? TODAY? TODAY? North West too.

[@ZKMable]

Sanibonani You guys are totally inspiring, I wish I could share more of the world through my eyes. May I pls extend an invite to you for a full day tour to the North West to show you a behind the curtains commercial black Agri business ready for a bigger audience. Will reconnect asap, let’s make 2025 a slammer. Zakes M Once we succeed to duplicate this 1, we will go for the next and have 5 operations in 2025. Amen 🙏🏽

[@anastasimankesemokgobu1724]

I would like Penuel to come back please, I watch him on all his channels but it is really good to see him being the one on the answering side

[@ZKMable]

And pls do invite me to your church, ready to tithe with purpose.

[@TumitheYoutuber]

56:48 - conflict of interest right there 🤔

[@thembadladla5683]

Two wrongs do not make it right!

[@hamiltonmatlala1173]

The problem started when we were brain bared by saying go to school pass your matric, go to university, college and get that degree etc. The more important thing of what I've learnt was to be a good sales person without no experience and you'll understand how you can conquer poverty. Don't get me wrong to be a sales you do not need a school or study but plan on how to. The material that can add to your sales expect experience that you created will be the books and speaking to people who are running bigger business to learn more. The power of money is to make money without a cent. I've started my business with no money and made customer relation that created profit. The thing of waiting for someone to help you with money to start a business has brain damaged us and we envey those we know they have the money but don't wanna help us. We need to learn the art of survival and not depending on people to help you but create a good relationship with people who will support your idea. A rich person will never give you money but an idea to make money and if you don't take that advise you will never succeed in life in anything.

[@lehlohonolomogadime6161]

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[@njabulomathobela66]

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[@MorokeKimathi]

😢🎉1000000000 LIKES

[@LM-he7eb]

Gift needs to read his bible. Jesus kicked tables when people tried to make money off of church

[@petermakhutja5231]

Ursula be careful of Penuel, he breathes babies

[@wetive9533]

😂😂😂😂 Agh why now. 😂😂😂

[@desiree9667]

I love their friendship 😌😌

[@ckngivdtb37910]

😂😂😂

[@zamaswaziSimelane-uy9hl]

They'd make a beautiful baby. I think they should go for it.

[@MissCombs1511]

I have the best gif for this but KZbin.. eish!

[@JimmyMaphanga-xv5md]

Why you always talking about orania staat ek jamaar.

[@Penuelism]

@@JimmyMaphanga-xv5md it's a great case study for all South Africans.