Going Cheap with Series 1 Daniel Smith

[@teohyc]

I forgot to mention that Series 5 paint can cost more than two times that of Series 1.

[@crystalalexander916]

I love that you listened to your viewers over the years and started letting us watch the paint dry lol I was late to the party, just started watching a few months ago but I've also started noticing your name being dropped on other channels that I watch like Mind of Watercolor

[@bookishindian]

HeyC! Are you the Crystal I knew from 43t ? 😀

[@PaulaBean]

8:06 Wait, what? Payne's Gray and Sepia are indeed not great colors to mix with others, but have you ever tried to mix them together? You get a beautiful concrete grey, a neutral warm grey, because payne's leans to the blue and sepia leans to the yellow. I've tried this with multiple brands and types, and not every mixture works out, but mixing Payne's Gray with Sepia is very interesting and promising!

[@teohyc]

The sepia paynes gray mix probably works for tonal studies and sketches

[@danihu03]

I have been painting botanicals lately, and I really like how hookers green mixes with pthalo green for leaves. It's so pretty.

[@dabradguy]

I picked up Daniel Smith new gamboge, Phtholo blue, and Alizarin Crimson (all series 1)to add to my set of 12 white knights. I am in love with the new gamboge, and it's safe to say as I use up the rest of my White Knights, I will be replacing them with Daniel Smith.

[@ArtBrain]

Hope you get this. When you use up Alizarin Crimson, make sure and pick up PERMANENT Alizarin Crimson because it is more light fast. Both are offered from Daniel Smith.

[@renmuffett]

Yes. The lowest priced pigments are often the most durable and light fast. The cost depends on what the paint suppliers have to pay to get the pigments. Some require much harder work and efforts. Its why all the Natural and synthetic Iron Oxides will have the lowest price tags. It is abundant and easy to get. The PY3 is not a durable yellow. Thanks for sharing.

[@koskey06]

Purples are always hard to get. At least a nice intense purple. Greens and oranges are easy so they are colors you can wait to buy or leave out of a palette. But if you use purple then having at least 1 that you can then tone down or mute as needed is a must

[@moniquefrechette4516]

Thanks a lot! I didn't know that! I will check all my tubes. I thought all Daniel Smith were same value. I am learning and learning each day and I get confidence more and more with my sketching. Bye bye from Montréal, Canada!

[@moonlightgator541]

Thank you for sharing I didn't think of that. I would get warm yellow, both reds, ultramarine and both browns.

[@jmeyer3rn]

Excellent video. I’m impressed with your knowledge of Daniel Smith. And a bit envious of your collection of pigments.

[@EstrafaDC]

What a BRILLIANT idea for a video Teoh! Thank so much for this. I'd never thought of this question before, but curious to see how it plays out.

[@ZombieZebra3]

Thanks for this! I've been thinking about building a Daniel Smith palette for a while. I'd probably leave out one of the blues and substitute in a purple.

[@leahevergreenart]

There are so many good Series 1's from Daniel Smith, I like them, this was a good video to show people

[@appleknocker56]

Thank you for doing these videos! A beginner like me didn’t know had DS has five different series #’s & choosing decent but not spending $400 this helps me not choose another “chalky/jelly” lower grade (water colors)!

[@bristremel1554]

this is a really cool idea. i've never seen anyone do anything like this before. i kind of wish i'd seen something like this prior to investing in my own paints. hopefully this is useful to beginners. i'm always a bit surprised to find out which paints are series 1s, 2s, 3s, and so forth.

[@yarinageshonen]

This is very helpful Teoh. Now I have a guide when investing in DS primaries and earth tones to make Payne's. Thanks and have a great weekend ahead.

[@debsmith7050]

Outcomes I didn't expect...... thanks for sharing this process

[@davidbrici8696]

I could watch you paint swatches all day. And your brush looks like a working horse!

[@adinaschisler3930]

Very interesting! Didn't pay much attention to the series so far, but now I will! Though there are things I can't do without like Quin Rose, there's no true cool red in S1. I also prefer S2 Quin Burnt Orange (PO48) instead of Burnt Sienna. Discovered that if I also stash Nickel Azo Yellow (PY150) also S2 I can really make w/ them Quin Gold (PO48+PY150), this with PB29 gives one Undersea green, or with Phthalo Blue Sap Green :D Payne's grey is really PB29 plus some black, Sepia is Burnt Sienna (or in my case Quin Burnt Orange) with some black, & I chose Lunar Black (PBk11) because it's granulating & all combinations are really nice. So while I might not budge on some things, Lemon yellow, Ultramarine Blue are worth looking at & MAN Sienna because I don't like Raw Sienna or Yellow Ocher much. Prussia Blue is S1 as well, was thinking to replace Phthalo Blue. Hmmm... overall very enlightening! Finally dawned on me what those numbers on the DS-259WColor_Chart are :D

[@teohyc]

There are more quality reds in Series 2 for sure. I just didn't realise it is so limited in Series 1. Interesting.

[@lindashepard1541]

Thank you Tech for another excellent and informative mixing lesson. You save me much time and money with such demonstrations.

[@teohyc]

Welcome 😁

[@sketchbookblue6033]

D.S. Pthalo Yellow Green is a great convenience mid valued green colour....a clean bright green that can be easily turned darker or lighter, I much prefer it over any pthalo green

[@everartokelli]

Good to know! I have a tube but didn't really know how to use it, but sounds like it's similar the Phthalo Green YS which I prefer to Phthalo Green BS.

[@macgurrl]

Great video, it is really going to help me choose a palette even if it isn’t Daniel Smith.

[@keely_painter]

So beautiful🎉🎉

[@jeffong5955]

Found that the noodler’s ink always take longer time to dry compare to others like de atramentis

[@teohyc]

Noodler's ink is probably the slowest drying ink I've used. The paper you use also matters a lot.

[@everartokelli]

Daniel Smith has 120 Series 1 colors total, although 48 of those are luminescent and a good number are yellows, phthalos and earth colors. Lightfast reds unfortunately are usually higher series, but Permanent Red is a very useful mixing red. Deep Scarlet looks beautiful, I may get that when I run out of Perylene Scarlet. Awesome video, thanks Teoh!

[@itsteganyay]

This was a really interesting video, thank you! I have Manganese Blue Hue on my palette and really enjoy using it. In my experience, it has nice granulation in mixes, but needs to be used with a lot of water. I'd like to try PY175 and the Monte Amiata Natural Sienna, I'll have to add them to my wishlist. I prefer Transparent Red Oxide to Burnt Sienna, because I think it has better tinting strength.

[@patriciabarbosa3656]

How can I tell if some color it is warm or cold, for exemplo between 2 yellows or 2 blues? That deep Scarlet it's so beautiful.

[@hansendesigns]

Patrícia Barbosa you look to see if the color leans toward another warmer or cooler primary (or secondary). if a yellow looks more orange (toward red) its warmer, if it leans toward green/blue it's cooler. The direction a color leans will effect the way it makes secondary colors. For instance, if you had a blue that leans toward Red, and a red that leans toward blue, they would both lean toward each other so they will make a nice purple. :)

[@teohyc]

It's a relative comparison. You can use the colour wheel to help. Colours nearer to red would be warm and blue cool. Colours that are close to each other on the wheel will mix to produce vibrant colours.

[@_Obey_]

It actually even went up to Series 7 with Azurite. It is dearly missed by me, bc I missed my chance to get it and the only shop that has it still on stock refuses to sell it to me. Azurite was 48.-€ in that one shop I still found it. What a price!

[@KateTheSleepyTeacher]

Cyan Walker there is a seller on amazon that has two tubes. Way too pricey for me (99 dollars).

[@everartokelli]

There are several sellers on Etsy that make handmade azurite watercolors, might save some $$ and get a new supply.

[@beahallberg7822]

I don't worry too much about lightfastness (I only sketch and paint in sketchbooks anyway), so I really enjoy Opera Pink! Also a series 1, and as I understand it it's the same pigment as in Quin. Magenta, which I've seen you use. Maybe not what you'd change to, but for someone else looking for a cheaper pigment it could be a good swap! I like it for mixing, as it's veeeery intense on its own, haha.

[@behruz_mirahmedov]

But if you use display art, use Rose of Ultramarine instead.

[@moonram2569]

Very interesting video. Perhaps, M Graham or other brand paints will work out cheaper with a better choice of colors. Or go cheap with a great choice of 6 - 8 colors from any series of Daniel Smith. I love using Caran D'ache Neocolor ii - these are lightfast and are highly pigmented. And I love Inktense too - these photograph very well. Neocolor ii and Inktense work very well on low quality paper.

[@teohyc]

M Graham is indeed cheaper.

[@KateTheSleepyTeacher]

Any chance you will do this for series 2, 3, 4, 5 and a single pigment ?

[@teohyc]

I may. It's an interesting series of videos to make.

[@arianachan8507]

Hi Teoh. In spore where is the best shop to get DS watercolor tube? Thanks

[@simosimo7560]

Hi Theo, good choice, I agree. I didn't know about the different series. Daniel Smith is difficult to find in Italy. I bought green apathite, quinacridone rose, moonglow, and goethite. I'm going to buy monte amiata natural sienna and the transparent red oxide. What do you think about pinks? I like painting flowers and I've just finished Opera Rose by Winsor e Newton. I'd like to have a more soft rose, like a Rose Madder.

[@teohyc]

Opera Rose is not a lightfast colour. Quinacridone Rose (PV 19) is good. Daniel Smith has a Rose Madder Permanent but I'm not sure if it's any good.

[@simosimo7560]

@@teohyc thank you Theo

[@jennw6809]

I thought some people use Payne's Gray to deepen colors and create shadows?

[@bruceosborne1892]

Excellent review Teoh.

[@coreyholt8522]

Is there a difference in the quality between the series? Or is it just the expense of the pigment

[@teohyc]

It’s got to do with how rare the pigments are, or how difficult they are made. So for example, the earth colours are almost always from the cheaper series because they are so abundant.

[@coreyholt8522]

@@teohyc thanks!

[@sue6002]

This was very helpful Teoh. Thank you. Have you ever tested M Graham paints. I am trying to focus on single pigments that are transparent. 👩🏻‍🎨

[@teohyc]

M Graham makes good quality paint so you can't go wrong with any of their paints

[@MrJairo3259]

Love these mixing!

[@priscillawarren9979]

Very good information.

[@ragminka]

Why does phthalo blue always say green shade and vice versa with phthalo green?

[@AllanJayQuesada]

The phthalo blue green shade is cooler, near to turquoise , while phtalo blue red shade is warmer, nearer to ultramarine. Phthalo green blue shade is cooler, like viridian. While phtalo green yellow shade is warmer nearer to mid green. Hope this helps. 😊

[@maryalgar8779]

I think because there are other versions that are red shade. Check out Teoh's site here: www.parkablogs.com/picture/phthalo-blue-green-vs-red-shade

[@ragminka]

there's yellow and red shades?? I've never come across them before, that explains it a lot thank you

[@cisp360]

hi Teoh, why is your deep scarlet is so different from mine? We both got Daniel Smith, and mine is much much more earthy than your. If you look at mine deep scarlet, you would not say it is a red at all. It is more like a red oxide than a scarlet.

[@teohyc]

Not sure about that. Maybe an issue with the batch. It's difficult to tell unless there's something to compare to.

[@cferracini]

I think one day I will just go and buy the dot sample from Daniel Smith. My local art store have all of the colors for $8 so... maybe i will do that. But I have high hopes for Nickel Titanate Yellow or Hansa Yellow Light as an alternative for lemon yellow. I just love the mixes you can do with lemon yellow but the lightfastness is not the most impressive, so probably Nickel Titanate Yellow but it need to be put to test maybe the web site pics don't match reality

[@teohyc]

Nickel Titanate Yellow is like a creamy yellow. Not as intense as other yellow

[@ohjolala98]

Would love to hear your advice, if I want to create the best 12 colors- plallete , regardless of what series they are from, what would be the best colors to choose. I haven’t used Daniel Smith before. I’m considering to buy. So would love to hear your suggestions. Thank you 😊

[@monkeymanrobot]

Look up Jane Blundell she has an Ultimate Mixing Palette by Daniel Smith. Buy them individually and you will get what you need.

[@teohyc]

Check out this article where I interviewed several artists about their palettes. www.parkablogs.com/content/colours-pick-12-pan-watercolour-palette

[@ohjolala98]

Thank you so much. I haved checked out the blog. Very helpful. 👍🏻✨

[@marmar1293]

Is it just me or did the ink you used repelled the water a few times :v

[@mikuenjoyerXD]

No, i keep getting squeamish seeing the ink repelling and bleeding '-' '0'

[@EstrafaDC]

I'm wondering if Daniel Smith's single pigment Chromium Green (PG17) would make a good green instead of Hookers Green. Single pigment and it's Series 1. Not as subdued as Undersea green.

[@teohyc]

Not sure about that. Maybe I have to get it. 😂

[@lynn_thinks]

Thanks! This was helpful. 🎨🖌

[@maryalgar8779]

I didn't realize that Undersea Green and Monte Amiata Natural Sienna are Series 1 paints. I've admired both of these, but thought they were a more pricey series. I think I read somewhere that you can mix an undersea green with Ultramarine Blue and Quin. Deep Gold, but it's a lovely convenience green, I think.

[@teohyc]

You probably can. Greens are not difficult to mix.

[@ColbyZcom]

When you paint, do you mix your paints in the mixing wells or straight on the paper? Great channel btw.

[@teohyc]

Mostly in the well but I don't mix completely before I put it on the paper. There I may add paint again to change the colour.

[@MrQuuze]

Feel worst area in this palette is reds. but i think for landscape style use this can work. but itlsef fantasy botanical painter and abstract painter mianly.

[@森下典樹]

I would go one primary yellow，if only one red then go with PV19，if two then plus one scarlet，two blue with PB15：3 and PB29，then one brown if the budget is still fine then go with burnt siena.

[@森下典樹]

I doubt if a warm yellow is necessary since orange is not picky to be mixed form which red and yellow. And a cool yellow is rarely needed unless it's the specific super artificial cool bright green that you ask for. A Primary yellow is versatile. PV 19 would create bright red and lovely violet . Only if you're asking for a specific vivid scarlet should you have one scarlet like PO 73.

[@森下典樹]

Primary Yellow with PB 15 is already a vivid spring green needed to be toned down almost every time in common cases.

[@ybipbip]

très bonne idée cette vidéo car il y a des palettes d'autres artistes qui sont intéressantes mais les couleurs cumulées reviennent très cher !

[@sky_izm]

"Going cheap" - I am a normal BPO worker. I live a country where Daniel Smith is expensive. Sad life.

[@teohyc]

Consider Jackson's Art watercolour. They have free shipping for purchases above a certain amount. bit.ly/jacksonsart-uk

[@hansendesigns]

Great vid ideas 💡 A+. Maybe next vid make a sketch with this :)

[@annevickers3307]

This was so heya d useful. Thank you.

[@melitalyell6915]

Hi TEoh are you still selling some of your paints? 😊

[@teohyc]

I'm still selling. Here's the list of colours available www.parkablogs.com/content/watercolour-paint-sale

[@jennw6809]

I just wish DS would make ALL their colors in 5ml tubes! 15 mil is a lot of paint, especially if you have not tried a color before, and it turns out you don't like it.

[@anam00090]

Love the video, so useful! Other than the reds, I like every paint listed. Anyone could select a decent palette from this. I'd just add a good red as an extra investment, a Quinacridone - good cool red maybe. I personally would go with PY175, Hansa Deep, Monte Amiata, (Quin Rose), (Transparent Pyrrol Orange), Undersea or Cascade Green, Phthalo Green, Phthalo Blue, Ultramarine, Phthalo Turquoise maybe?, Transparent Red and Brown oxides. And perhaps Lunar Black or Payne's Gray for neutrals. If you get an introductory Daniel Smith set, you'd just have to add some earth, green and neutral hues in 5ml and you'd be good to go - this may be the most cost-effective way with good reds included.

[@everartokelli]

Sounds like a very nice palette!

[@marsbeads]

Permanent Red and Manganese Blue Hue are both Lightfast II which is Very Good (100 years)

[@teohyc]

That's good. Anyway I use them in sketchbooks so they should last.

[@Sahaberahmat]

Hello, your work is very valuable. I am really a fundamentalist. Thank you. Please bring a real photo of the portrait or nature of the sea, forest, sky, mountain and teach how to mix the color for its various components to turn it into a watercolor painting. If you have a lot of training, the channel will be very welcome, in which case your effort will have an educational burden. Thank you. Please teach this type of color mix training a lot. Thank you very much for your efforts.

[@lemonrose1254]

It’s sad that most pinky reds are series 2

[@teohyc]

The good quality reds are Series 2 onwards. Quinacridones and Pyrrols

[@AlphaGeekgirl]

I was waiting for lemon yellow and manganese blue hue :(

[@teohyc]

Oops. Forgot about that. It's going to look quite similar to Phthalo Blue with Lemon Yellow, but with granulation. So you get a granulating yellow green.

[@ju2425]

If I could only choose from the colors in the video, I will choose all three yellows, ultramarine blue, deep scarlet, burnt sienna and sepia.

[@judial-abdah3210]

Hi

[@robl9767]

Hi!

[@robl9767]

Damn I paid 15 bucks for a Series 1 15ml New Gamborge is it total shit? I need it for sand in Myrtle Beach. P.S. Thanks for being real dude.. (edit) Man watching you mix colors is so intoxicating to watch..

[@teohyc]

Price really depends on where you buy. New Gamboge is a good colour for mixing and for use on its own. I use it often to mix vibrant orange, and to mix with a yellow to make the yellow look "more natural".

[@hansendesigns]

For sand you might want "Buff Titanium". Don't worry though, Teoh uses new gamboge all the time, it's nice.

[@everartokelli]

If you want the best prices for DS paints online in the US, try Blick where 15ml Series 1 is $10.34. But if you paid more and bought it locally, be happy you're supporting your local art store! BTW New Gamboge is a great mixer and very useful color.

[@CBaena]

:)

[@benjamina6915]

Daniel Smith and cheap are two things that don't match..... not even for series 1. That selection is about $150 and for that kind of money you can buy way better paint and a much larger color selection that saves you time to mix colors :)

[@teohyc]

Cheaper, relatively speaking 😅

[@jdub3853]

What paint is "way better" than Daniel Smith? Everyone has their opinion but if you can find a paint that's "way better" than Daniel Smith I'd be very surprised. Their paint is excellent quality and certainly one of the cleanest paints in terms of manufacturing. Very little binder or filler.

[@Pocalypticart]

if that price is for 15ml tubes, dont forget they can last a really long time! they fill half pans about 7 times so thats $21 for a full palette of incredible paint, add a $4 blick palette you refill and beat the price of the chalky student grade 12 color palettes out there. just takes an investment :)

[@sp-xf3pb]

@@jdub3853 Daniel Smith is itself not "way better" than any other top brands wc paints either. In many cases not even better. They've got some original mixes which is fine. A lot of Sennelier, Schmincke, Rembrandt paints etc are superior to DS equivalents. There are many, may be not real artists but keen to become one, kinda popular persons over you tube and internet, heavily and blindly keep promoting DS. And almost none of them are doing this for fun only, thanks to DS marketing dept's aggressive nonstop efforts.

[@jdub3853]

@@sp-xf3pb no one said DS paints were way better.. at least not me. Simply put they are excellent quality and empirically proven to be one of the cleanest and best made paints out there. And I think artists can make up their own mind about what paints they like, professional or not.

[@graemewatt3060]

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[@sugorine]

I would enjoy your videos much more if they weren’t that sloppy...