gold lite - the new micro mini ms3

full blown ms3 board with sequential 8 injector and spark in this tiny footprint. I am excited to use this pre production unit!
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[@TurbineResearch]

I built my entire KZbin channel around tuning the microsquirt. I would love to buy one of these when it becomes available 🙌 please keep us updated as it becomes available

[@AngryBengry]

you and matt's instructional videos on tunerstudio are why I have a turbo foxbody! Thanks to both of you (and EFI source for the pnp microsquirt)

[@pr0n5tar]

Bmw guy

[@TurbineResearch]

@@AngryBengry thanks 🙏 I’m glad the videos are helpful

[@michaelcleary5205]

The ms3mini was released couple days ago on diy I also have turbo e28 and will be swapping my micro out already purchased!

[@joecoco908]

@@michaelcleary5205 The MS3Mini doesn't hold a candle to this. No IAC stepper, less spark outputs, less I/O. Epic fail.

[@SuperfastMatt]

MS is starting to feel really dated. The micro USB doesn't help, but the lack of throttle by wire leaves out a lot of possibilities.

[@tptrsn]

This is definitely the big problem for it in a lot of cases... I have the new Haltech pre-ordered for a DBW LS3 project, and that is exciting. Even can do cruise control! But man, MS3 is really awesome for a lot of stuff.

[@Brother2Jis_27s4]

It's the algorithms fault... But seriously, you'd think that it would be easily integrated or have an option for a model with or without dbw. Or solder your own dbw circuit board controller...

[@garyhowe88]

​@Brother2Jis_27s4 there's loads of dbw options for ms now, some as cheap as 200dollars.

[@Brother2Jis_27s4]

@@garyhowe88 i know.. just jumping on board with the idea of you'd think that it would come dbw capable. If it is as common as it is...

[@SloppyMechanics]

It’s tough they have to work within the confines of the ms company and licensing

[@littleherms3285]

Getting one as soon as it comes out. My Gold Box has been flawless for 4 years and this will work perfect for an LS swap I've been planing.

[@macanic21]

So nice to see you playing with this again and great to see EFI come out with a new product. I would have never bought a Holley if this existed. They are quickly pricing themselves out and milking their market.

[@chipcurrey653]

Aces EFI also very competitive features to Holley but almost half the price

[@sidewaysstarion]

@@chipcurrey653 The Aces is a very crude ECU with fuel and timing tables that are half the size of the stock ECU let alone the Holley, it also lacks the flexibility to create custom tables like you can with the Holley.

[@chipcurrey653]

@@sidewaysstarion I have both and can tell no difference in driveability

[@frankdeninno7182]

had my golb box since they came out. incredible capability for a low price. Mike at EFI source is always helpful !! Thanks matt for the tuning classes years ago!!

[@dragpix]

been waiting for "dropbear" to come in stock for nearly 2 years, will be buying one of these as soon as they are released. big holley fan but cant justify the cost for a car that is driven 5 times a year. love my microsquirt for that exact reason.

[@SloppyMechanics]

Indeed!

[@BigMikesGarage]

We need a new Don't BS me build using this ECU and the best cam. Back to the old days of purple intercooler piping!

[@SloppyMechanics]

Maybe we can do this on truck and best cam and a turdblow

[@wobblysauce]

Periwinkle strikes again.

[@MegaScott]

I've been asking for this since MS3 first came out...Finally! My good Friends at EFI Source came through! Can't wait to test it out!

[@junkyardboost8372]

Excited for this. I still run the gold box on all my cars. I love MS, prefer it over the Holley stuff.

[@JoeHynes284]

i have no doubt holley is selling their stuff at a loss to drive these folks out of business

[@Sleeperdude]

Very cool definitely a good upgrade from the micro squirt

[@dylanb.2749]

Ill be grabbing one when it comes out. Have been thinking about going micro but this is sweet.

[@_the_Chad_]

Yup, I'm in. I love my micro setup and the stuff you can do with it (tablet dash and such).

[@jeeplifted1]

Good stuff. Excited to see this in action.

[@Brother2Jis_27s4]

You got me into the ms family with a microsquirt, now on to the ms3pro. I believe the gold lite may be something i try to get our customers into in the future. The price point will leave a nice margin for getting people on board with a standalone with full sequential. Did you get any hint as to when they may be shooting for a release? I also think that with the packaging size that making a case that would hold that along with a raspberry pi or similar for an all in one dash and ecu would be in line with being competitive with another couple ecu manufacturers...

[@teamreid1]

Definitely interested in trying this. I loved my MicroSquirt turbo LS

[@86boostdcapri]

So this will do everything my gold box does minus 2 injector drivers? I love my gold box, it's been flawless but my only complaint is its size. It's just hard to find a place to put it when you are still running a complete full interior car.

[@SloppyMechanics]

Yes basically, I need to confirm the amount of IO and whatnot I’m not 100% sure

[@86boostdcapri]

@@SloppyMechanics ok, thanks.

[@tylersmith7054]

I’d love to see it on a Neon for selfish reasons. I road race them and I’m ready to move on from oem ecus. I have considered my old micro from my ls fox body and trying to make it run the 2.4 with LS coils. Apparently there is native support for early and late Neon/PT cam and crank signals.

[@mattyoung3004]

This is great! They should sell it with just a connector and pins so you can build your own harness

[@SloppyMechanics]

you could buy the flying lead and then get all the connectors for the engine side from monkey fab

[@garyhowe88]

It's a horrible molex connector, unsure if it's even a real molex connector as it is an aliexpress case that comes with that connector.

[@MrArrakis9]

USB-C?? for the love of god please just let micro usb die already.

[@ClarksAutoAndPerformance]

I've seen companies lately using mini USB still.

[@AustinRBa]

​@@ClarksAutoAndPerformanceto be fair mini USB is such a physically durable connection

[@burtsgurt]

I thought the same thing right when he said that lol

[@SloppyMechanics]

I know, I don’t build them but they’ll see the comments so any suggestions are good

[@Turbogto_guy]

@@AustinRBaI completely disagree. I’m constantly having problems on devices that have that type of connection. USB c is far superior

[@401cam8]

I want to see you try out the aces fuel injection for LS's. Give us your opinion on it, for a 24x/58x trans control it's about $1000, for just engine stand alone it's $870. Pretty cheap considering what it comes with. It'd be cool to see your opinion on it. What's interesting is that the reluctror is selectable on the units handheld touch screen, so one unit can do either 24 or 58.

[@Burndown]

Wow that’s impressive

[@jmac636]

I like it….just bought a new gold box that I don’t even need. My original gold box is probably 5 years old and never had not one issue. Holley Terminator x I own likes to kill crank sensors.

[@SlidewaysUm3]

Was really hopeful for a microsquirt v4 with another spark output but doesnt look like it, so i guess i know what im getting now. Instead of a ms3 pro module crammed into an audi ecu case. So excited hope its out before May.

[@sleepy1gn]

Awesome, please install on a neon!

[@diePod1]

Is there a license/royalty fee for not just making it USB type C ?? Even if the data is only 2.0 speed, just Type C all the things!!!!!

[@SloppyMechanics]

He said he read your comments and will be doing all he can to make it usb C

[@LS1KITTEN]

Any idea on release date? Also is it still 8 spark outputs? How many i/o?

[@adamreynolds1851]

Magnum 5.2 5.9 would be awesome

[@dustinsamson4879]

Great will this work for a infiniti 5.3 gen4 g35 swap

[@james10739]

Cool im interesting about to try to turbo a 4 cylinder and the microsquirt seems a little limited for a 4 cylinder

[@dudewutuptube]

USB-C would definitely be the move. Man I’d love to ditch this e38 bs pcm and wire that in parallel.

[@shaadydog1]

Could this work as a secondary injector driver for the LT1 guys?

[@SloppyMechanics]

Yes

[@MegamanEXEv2]

This thing sounds awesome! My only suggestion is ditch the Micro USB and use USB-C instead. Micro USB falls apart super easily.

[@young11984]

Im ready for one just like that

[@sebfullick5011]

I want one! Approx release date?

[@Go4BrokeOffroad]

does this have on board wifi or bluetooth? still uses the rs232 module?

[@SloppyMechanics]

It does not have any wireless connectivity built in

[@waybad]

This is my question also. My old ms used a dongle and I used a tablet for my gages and tuning. Loved it

[@SloppyMechanics]

it has a micro usb connector now, and everyone has voiced they would like usb C and I believe that will happen next revision as they are looking into that already. you would get a cable that plugs in to that and can get the data and you're set

[@Go4BrokeOffroad]

@@SloppyMechanics I'm sitting here foaming at the mouth. Monster jam requires all our monster trucks to have EFI. Want to try this little guy out on blown Alky

[@ianm432]

Does the gold lite work better than a flesh lite?

[@williamzoom]

Only when you're listening to Dee Lite while drinking Crystal Light!

[@tptrsn]

Super badass!!

[@russellbroadwell]

How does the gold box closed loop fuel correction compair to Holley Terminator X?

[@MrJermbob]

How does the header plug take a 20awg wire ?

[@Jazz3006]

Micro USB and an SD card for storage over eMMC is madness in 2024.

[@curtisoeser5133]

Outstanding

[@rayjon237]

I’m in if it will support a 5.3-6l80 combo..

[@ummduhgmail]

Well they don't have any hardware to control the 6l80 yet, so...

[@BigRedRocketScience]

James is going to need hire a couple temps for firmware requests.

[@Scofflaw_k10]

😍

[@storminnorman1932]

Has it got a built in wideband driver ?

[@SloppyMechanics]

No it does not, I talked about this in the video that they thought about integrating one of those and it ends up being a failure point. They’re working right now with a zeitronix can bus wideband so it doesn’t use up any IO and I’ll have to learn more about they but you can still plug in the conventional wideband output into the ecu

[@ummduhgmail]

​@@SloppyMechanicsand 14point7 has canbus on their spartan 3. I agree with them, I like not having built in wideband. Gives you options for the future and not being locked into something.

[@BEANS-O-MATICtransmissions]

​@@SloppyMechanics so ALL the same amount of IOs and features as the full size gold box minus 2 inj/spark outputs? Anything else I'm missing?

[@brentspence3379]

Very nice

[@philbetthauser9547]

Very nice ‼️

[@xozindustries7451]

What are the options for transmission control that works with this?

[@SloppyMechanics]

You can use the micro and flash it with the trans controller firmware it already exists for other ms3 setups

[@Mexicanracing]

So no need for separate controller?

[@frankdeninno7182]

yes you need a micro trans controller separate however the 2 can be linked threw CAN and controlled with the software in one place so it actually works as one unit once linked. @@Mexicanracing

[@3dprintershopstudio]

Make a video tuning that thing as you use to please

[@kthschsslr]

Perfect for turbo motorcycle.

[@maddida]

But does it have drive by wire tho

[@TheProchargedmopar]

👍💪

[@Akestler]

That has to be Mercury Hardware. It looks very similarly to Lenel hardware.

[@srxmod700]

Release date ?

[@dresdensvo]

Now update the serial port on the micros .

[@SloppyMechanics]

That design is done

[@YLTMauto]

Build a gen 5 direct injected setup

[@BEANS-O-MATICtransmissions]

That'd be the shit !

[@lukedoehrman2304]

Think it could run a gm 3800?

[@Brother2Jis_27s4]

Anything up to 8 cylinders sequentially

[@someguy325es]

awesome

[@HOTRODPOKEMON]

Nice

[@scottcoleman162]

I thought I was the only one left who's using the original GB and hasn't jumped ship to Holley. 🤷‍♂️

[@frankdeninno7182]

I have both running ls turbo combinations I do prefer the GB and i love the Bluetooth adapter no wire connection to laptop.

[@gptech2444]

I know this will be well supported by EFI source, but there's been a lot of new players pop up in this space that have more capable ecu's (WB and DBW) for far less money. And yeah, let micro USB die already.

[@Marc_Wolfe]

$800-900.... Jesus. Glad gen 3 LS ECUs are cheap to buy and work with.

[@J-Eagan]

RusEFI? UAefi is only $150

[@erikberggren8399]

Fukin S-10 guys I tell ya lol

[@RJCoAustralia]

Unfortunately the prices comes in at $1665 and the haltech rebel is $1495. it will be a hard sell now.

[@justenshull542]

Price of what is $1665?

[@LSJUAN]

type c type c type c. Please lets move on from that ancient micro usb

[@SloppyMechanics]

Might be an easy fix looking into it

[@bigfoot355]

Here

[@ericflower9855]

Put it on a V8..put it through its paces...give it what it deserves

[@bobbywalter5320]

Hmmmmm

[@billbraski2175]

Diy auto tune has shit customer service.

[@SloppyMechanics]

This is not DIY Autotune

[@erickbernard8208]

Soooo hot lol

[@beecj0]

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[@Carpuride_USA]

dear friend , this is Jack from Carpuride , we sent you a sample device in Oct 2023 , but now it is Feb 2024 ,you never reply to me by email ,and never publish the video ,but you always publish other videos .