GoldenEye 007 is a mess... | MVG

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The long awaited return of Goldeneye 007 is here on both the Xbox and Nintendo Switch. For the first time since 1997 gamers are able to enjoy this classic game for modern consoles ever since its original release on the Nintendo 64. While what is here is faithful to the original, it could have been so much better. In this episode we take a closer look at the good, the bad...and the confusing.
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[@trustyvault13canteen32]

I have seen people defend the NSO versions controls by saying Nintendo doesn't have the resources to fix them 😭

[@mariokarthero1997]

That's a load of bullshit LMFAOOOOO! They definitely have the resources. They're just too lazy to do so.

[@AmyNumberSeven]

Tiny indie studio, shoestring budget, please understand. /s

[@ZeroFusion28]

Reminds me of the old "Valve is a small indie company" argument people have for TF2 not getting updates. Both Valve and Nintendo are multi billion dollar companies. There are no excuses.

[@Chipmunkboy]

NAH NO WAY☠️☠️☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀☠️💀

[@citizenoftheninthdivision]

@@AmyNumberSeven No excuse launching a garbage product.

[@wuggleworld]

If only this project had been entrusted to the same team who put such care, attention and passion into the re-release of Quake.

[@perpetualcollapse]

Nightdive should’ve handled these ports and the game should’ve released as it’s own separate title for both platforms. Or better yet, -Rare- another studio could’ve spent the time polishing up the XBLA version and ported it to Switch and Xbox assuming they still have the source code.

[@skeDarguy]

Nightdive had a pitch that they never revealed, which is upsetting.

[@d..n3426]

Correct me if I am wrong, but I've seen in an interview with Nightdive's CEO that they had tried to remaster GE (just like with Quake). However, with no success.

[@IceHedge]

There was a rerelease of quake?

[@daytwentytwo]

​@@IceHedge kzbin.info/www/bejne/aWS3aIGGrdN4gas - the remaster was released in the August 2021, yes. And it's great.

[@fensoxx]

Ahh Goldeneye, where I learned the fine art of air duct camping.

[@tashawn4066]

Took me a million tries to get back in the one in Facility.

[@AHPcameron]

Lol sneaky

[@Jesseofpv530]

Stack, odd job, spawn camping . Ahh... remote mine fights...

[@BoneyRasputin]

This brings back so many memories. Papa John's pizza and all night 007 marathons.. cow n chicken, Dexter's lab, WWF vs WCW.. . The 90s were the last years of happiness and peace I think America will ever have.

[@gman2015z]

@@BoneyRasputin I was too young to stay up late n watch WWF n WCW. But the times I got to watch the Attitude Era shows like Raw or Smackdown, I was hooked.

[@nigralurker]

I really wish we got the official release of the remaster back in 2007 by Rare. That looked and played so good especially with the toggle for old/new graphics.

[@ArtisChronicles]

That toggle reminded me so much of the remaster for Halo. It was a cool way to experience that game. Would've definitely played Goldeneye until the console died if it had came out.

[@nightmuffin937]

That’s what they should have used in the first place.

[@MagusArtStudios]

A hunch would be maybe that was the part of the licensing issues.

[@zackfair6791]

I think it will happen one day. But it seems to take them a long time to deal with licensing issues so it will probably be a decade or more.

[@nigralurker]

@@MagusArtStudios Of course it was part of the licensing issue. Regardless, I *wish* we got it.

[@RyanBurnsRed]

The XBLA version looks so good it certainly looks like it would've been the definitive version of this game had it been completed

[@Vamptonius]

It was completed, as I understand. Business gotta business.

[@ionstocke4701]

It's flawless and near identical to the n64 version but with better aim. Y'all should just accept the fact it's 25yrs old and isn't supposed to be compared to a 2023 game. Y'all are all spoiled and entitled. It was never meant to be 60fps and never meant to have online play get over it

[@jean-pierreraduocallaghan8422]

@@ionstocke4701 never say never. With the amount of money that Microsoft has, they could have easily funded a perfect version of this classic game to be made. People aren't entitled. Microsoft was just being selfish. Why did they make a gaming division if they didn't want to give their best ?

[@RyanBurnsRed]

@@Vamptonius yeah I looked it up and see that it was finished. Really gotta wonder why they didn’t just release that version instead. I also didn’t know it can switch between the updated and original graphics like Halo MCC. What a shame it’ll never see an official release

[@positivetakes5592]

@@jean-pierreraduocallaghan8422 yeah I agree they should have wasted a bunch of money for no reason ...

[@grn1]

When I was in my senior year of high school my electronics class had a game day where a bunch of people brought in old games. One guy brought in GoldenEye and absolutely slayed everyone in multiplayer because he'd memorized spawn locations and literally just spawn camped people. As you may imagine it wasn't long before we started to work together against this guy (despite it technically being a free for all).

[@HunnysPlaylists]

I never liked fps games (besides titanfall and older battlefield) for this reason.

[@tanukistrider6541]

(Apologies if this is already common knowledge, but feel it should be everywhere) So I went into Switch's control setting, swapped the sticks, swapped the ZL and ZR, and then went to 1.2 control setting in-game. That will give you a nice modern dual stick, pretty modern layout.

[@mbirth]

Nintendo Life did a video about this: kzbin.info/www/bejne/h5bTcoSpn7qKq9E

[@tanukistrider6541]

@@mbirth oh nice! I figured I couldn't be the only one. I was always picky about controls. Even back when GoldenEye came out, my friends would give me grief for interrupting multiplayer to change my control scheme.

[@mikemulligan5731]

That isn't good enough for people like this, really, he just needs to be bitching at something for youtube drama, they will never be happy. "we expect better"= I already have the game on some nerdcore emulator and have to shit on the plebs version= douchlord..

[@GreenLeefMusic]

Would this be able to be customizable to only Goldeneye or would this change controls for the entire Switch & all games? And if it changes controlsnfor everything can it at least be kept as a profile and switch back and forth easily? As much as I may want to try the Switch version I only have a Lite so this sounds like a bad experience without the N64 controller, which is its own issue since it cannot be docked to a bigger screen

[@Ammar-qt8io]

@@GreenLeefMusic its for the whole switch but u can save it as a preset and name it golden eye and whenever u wanna play anything else just reset it

[@hey.its.BrandishJaye]

It frustrates me to no end that giant gaming companies can't reach a fraction of the power of independently developed free emulation.

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

They can they just won’t

[@CarloxForever]

Giant companies: "Why should we spend more time and resources offering a quality product when we can offer the bare minimum and people will still throw their money at us?" I'd love to blame it on the companies but, sadly, all the people who buy their products are to blame. Once a product really underperforms at sales, you bet they will try harder for the next one. Unfortunately you have all the people who pre-order or buy at launch, and then complain. At that point complaints rarely do anything.

[@LordArikado]

@@CarloxForever Unfortunately, it's more of a double-edged sword in the modern gaming scene. Every company is so driven by the need for ridiculous profits that it's no longer a case of "We'll do better next time" if a product like this underperforms, instead their reaction tends to be "It underperformed, so that means there's no market for it". After all, with how insanely expensive and time consuming game development tends to be today, major companies would rather just not invest time and resources into something that's not a smash hit before it even releases. It sucks, but that's the sad reality of the modern gaming scene.

[@MarcuStar745XD]

They can, but they always throw the "we wanted to replicate the original feeling" as an excuse to not spend more time and money

[@bltzcstrnx]

Open source developers are not burdened by legal and agreement requirements.

[@PierreDaval]

Too bad they didn't release the XBLA version. Perfect Dark XBLA was a perfect tribute to the original game, and GoldenEye definitely deserves the same level of dedication.

[@Butwhythough881]

What some folks don’t understand is that we aren’t being ungrateful or finding things to complain about, it’s just that Goldeneye means alot to 90s gamers and has such a huge following. You would expect something a little bit more out a rerelease like this almost 25 years after it’s initial release. I agree with MVG that the scrapped XBLA should’ve been the basis for this rerelease not have the development between switch and xbox versions spread out.

[@jimmyju76]

no it sounds like you're just being undreatful

[@stephenvalente3296]

Indeed, a dual variant of the original N64 version and a modern, true 4k modern version should have been released, with all the relevant license holders getting their heads knocked together until an agreement was reached. If Microsoft can pay billions for Activision and Bethesda. surely something could have been worked out for Goldeneye? Or was Bezos "Blofeld" at Amazon to blame given they now own MGM?

[@michac3796]

I agree, after seeing the XBLA Version, talking about the Switch/Xbox versions feels like an insult.

[@anonymuzz5102]

It was crap back then and its crap now, only reason it was played was bc only local multiplayer shooter we had before we got voodoo2 cards to play Quake2. Nobody cares about your soppy nostalgia midlife crisis Dan Massa.

[@huldu]

I think what MVG said in the video summarize my thoughts: it's 2023 we should expect more not less. This isn't just about this game but so many other games. Looking at that unreleased rare version, it's mind-boggling that they didn't make something close to that(for crying out they did that in 2007!). They could have had options in the game to run the old school graphics or the newer enhanced ones. It's a shame there are so many issues with games and licensing, it's a swamp I get it but us consumers shouldn't have to suffer because a greedy company(or more) can't do anything right.

[@xCrossBite]

I'm one of those who are shocked that the X360 version was still left to rot. One more reason to be thankful for mods and emulation, I guess. 🙏

[@MoneyManHolmes]

Was it ever officially released? I thought it was scrapped at the last minute and a disgruntled employee leaked it.

[@MoonOvIce]

@@MoneyManHolmes It was as you said. But it can be played via emulation or on a modded 360.

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

@@MoneyManHolmes to be fair i'd probobly leak it too. that version was very polished just to get scrapped. i know that it's kind of a mute point, but it reminds me of Final Fantasy 2 and 3; (the originals, not 4 and 6) where because the SNES was coming out, those games got canned for the Western Release because Nintendo wanted SNES sales to be the best it could be off the start. then; there was the cancelation of Starfox 2, which i think was finished, but was another game canceled by Nintendo because the Nintendo 64 was coming out.

[@tabernaclejones6115]

Remember the perfect dark remake? It was PERFECT. 60 fps, and the resolution was updated to HD. was an amazing remaster and only cost like 10 bucks on xbla in 2010.

[@tabernaclejones6115]

I bought perfect dark for my n64 not long ago, and it was unplayable , even with the n64 expansion pack you get like 15 fps- MAX and it's usually around 10fps. That combined with the controls made it completely unplayable. The remaster was brilliant as it also added dual stick controls.

[@Panyc333]

All I wanted for Goldeneye on Xbox was what they did with Perfect Dark. That version of PD on Xbox is amazing.

[@diaperparalysis6850]

If you have a PC you can play it!

[@djutmose]

That's the same engine I think? So they could have ported GoldenEye to go to 60 FPS. Maybe it's contract restrictions and lack of time since the deal was made, they had to run more simple emulation...

[@wardog1273]

They originally made a prototype version in PD style, but it never came out

[@creatorsfreedom6734]

what is P D about ?

[@ONIFIVE]

If only 4J Studios had done the XBX version.

[@sgtsquank]

"Goldeneye will disappear along with it" But, thanks to you and people in this scene, it never will enirely. Emulation is preservation and I'm grateful some people care enough about all of it.

[@_SereneMango]

Emulation is the closest thing to duplicating physical creations, and duplication is the real way of preservation. Everything will expire someday, but extinction is what we can prevent.

[@SoyAntonioGaming]

The biggest problem with Goldeneye is that it isnt diverse enough. You barely have any people of color in it, only a few, while there are literally thousands of caucasian soldiers/characters. It is basically a White Supremacy game which is why I refuse to play it.

[@blazers4life994]

The mouse injector is absolutely amazing! Goldeneye with mouse an keyboard is a game changer literally.

[@redacted2275]

He meant officially. It's stupid a company like Nintendo being so anaI about copyright but can't provide a decent port of a game from 20+ years ago.

[@arnox4554]

Ah well. Let's be quite honest here. Even if it was removed again, Goldeneye was just the Perfect Dark beta, and Perfect Dark was so freaking good that it made Goldeneye almost completely irrelevant.

[@ImTHATguy...]

So far I've found this to be exactly like the original. I'd be upset if they remastered it. The nostalgia is what makes this game even more fun 26 years later. I'm reliving all kinds of memories. The controls were wonky at first, but I found a setting that ended up working out just fine and I've been glued to this game all weekend. Some people are getting spoiled by our better graphics and high def

[@awii.neocities]

imo I just think that they should have updated the HUD. That's it, the HUD. Because 1964 did that and the original N64 HUD textures don't really look that good on a non-CRT display. I understand though, I didn't really like the Perfect Dark XBLA remaster as you can't change to the old models and textures.

[@EtherD86]

They could have also done a complete overhaul/update and had a toggle for Classic Mode and now both those looking for old and new can enjoy.

[@tikazombie37]

what I find the funniest and saddest about the switch port is that goldenEye already has dual analog support(it just required you to use two N64 controllers) they could very well have changed a few knobs here and there and added dual analog.

[@Fluera]

Wow, I had no idea this was a thing!

[@tikazombie37]

@@Fluera check out the channel stop skeletons from fighting, he talks about a bunch of this stuff

[@JohnCharlesMartinIII]

You still can play it with the right control scheme. You have to go through the Switch Controller settings. Funny how MVG and everyone else here just completely fails to acknowledge that. It's cumbersome, yes. The right control scheme should have been built in the game. Regardless, there is still a way to circumvent it, at least.

[@inthefade]

@@Fluera In speedrunning there are many strats that require using one of the two-controller control schemes. It's quite interesting, but speedrunners hate having to play with two controllers.

[@yoso378]

I'm gonna guess it's because they don't want to implement custom controls for every N64 game... which they definitely should do. F zero X has some weird shoulder button assignments IIRC and I needed to use the system button reassignments to make it play better for me. I'm sure there's more games that would benefit from it seeing what a weird versatile mess the N64 controller was.

[@jdemonp]

Yesterday i introduce my friends (somehow they never played Goldeneye before) to 4 multiplayer splitscreen proximity mine, golden gun ando slaps only matches, and i realised this game is not only nostalgia, it is legit fun, we we're having tons fun and laughing like crazy. This game just made me realised how fun splitscreen used to be and how much i miss it.

[@simonn2045]

Online games are never as fun as being in the same room for split screen

[@phattjohnson]

@@simonn2045 This is probably why Twitch got popular. It's sometimes more fun to share the emotions and excitement of gaming, especially if you suck at playing :P

[@gunarcom]

we always did -10 health... 1 shot without armor, 2 shots with

[@truthseeker3909]

@@gunarcom we did that and maps that had the armor out of the way and you were not allowed to get it.

[@yar0nix224]

cringe

[@crispcoffee7958]

This game has a fond place in my memories. Split screen with my brothers. Getting beat on for winning, being accused of screen watching lol

[@garlic_starlet]

Haha "no screen looking! You're a screen looker!"

[@alexgarcia3610]

accused of screen watching = big brother getting beat for winning = little brother both were screen watching. \

[@HighFalutinTootin]

Fastest screen looker in the west lol

[@themightylordofgoblins6880]

Ah yes nothing felt better than screen watching on hijacked on bo2

[@manamaster6]

Something makes me believe in a year or 3 there could be a message by Microsoft or Nintendo saying "You have until X day to play this game before its removal from the service."

[@Ray__E]

Microsoft is definitely heading down that road. Gamepass is their main focus on how gamers will access titles. They don't want anyone to actually own the games.

[@jeanbob1481]

@@Ray__E jokes on them the industry has been dead for 3 to 4 gen.

[@coastaku1954]

@@Ray__E Or, people just really like the service

[@michaelmonstar4276]

Sure, why not?... - This is probably under a license that will run out, unless they deem it worth to extend. Nothing "shocking" here, but of course gamers will act all surprised and outraged once that will be announced.

[@michaelmonstar4276]

​@@Ray__E - It's not so much about that, it's more about that they're simply running a subscription-service that needs to be attractive from month to month or year to year. - There's nothing wrong with that, because the majority (which is the general mainstream public that doesn't nerd around on these videos) definitely doesn't need to "own" anything (not like, even if you'd have a disc or anything, you "own" it anyway, that's a fabricated argument "gamers" like to throw around), because they just live their lives, go to work, occasionally and casually play some games that are available on whatever service they use, and move the frick on. - There's no real loss to them, because they just consume and move on, which is very normal non-obsessive behavior. But even when you're more obsessive "gamers" like us geeks here, are you really going to play most of these games forever and ever?... There's always this talk of "I want to be able to play muh gaemz years down the line!"... Will you, really?... It's unlikely and more of a stance of "principle" (which I get, but isn't realistic). And if you're one of the few who happens to run into a game they can't play, either just choose something else or emulate. - Look, I'm from the old DOS and NES generation, I "get" it, but it's just not that much about ownership, which is a lie for software-based products anyway, and more about support for accessibility. And in the end, you should just know what you pay for and consider if it's worth it or even all that important. An "all you can play buffet" type subscription, even if games come and go, is just one option. - The sad part for this game is that it's the only way available and not also on platforms like Steam or whatever, it's MORE limited than even a digital license. Options are what we need.

[@FireTrainer92]

When the leaked Remaster is better than the official releases

[@kennypowers1945]

We didn’t want a remaster just the OG

[@FireTrainer92]

@@kennypowers1945 speak for yourself. The Remaster had a flip mode like Perfect Dark did. So you always had the og game anyways

[@pretzelboi64]

@@FireTrainer92 The market has spoken and said the same thing he did.

[@jimmelton5846]

@@pretzelboi64 nah that firetrainer guy is bang on the money.

[@B.A.R.G]

​@@kennypowers1945 Have you actually played the XBLA version? Choice of graphics (remastered or original), 60fps and decent controls, 4 way split screen and think you can even get online multiplayer working.

[@ExplosiveBolts]

Don't think it really matters how good this release is when there is an active decompilation project. We'll eventually have the port we deserve.

[@inthefade]

It will be amazing when we get that.

[@Aeduo]

Then someone will port that to xbox series homebrew. :p

[@ddud4966]

I wonder what they'll name it after the "Zelda 64" port, is it going to be named after another ship?

[@Gestersmek]

@@ddud4966 Maybe they'll name the different versions after various Bond films.

[@perpetualcollapse]

The decompilation is over 90% finished the last time I checked. I also heard that people were decompiling the XBLA version but I haven’t heard anything else about that project.

[@X2ENDZERO]

This might be just me, but I’m so glad a carbon copy of the 1997 version is here. With all its faults and janky frame drops, it’s exactly what I played back then. Sure some improvements could have been done to make it a better game, but it is faithful to the original 😅

[@simonkwiatkowski4734]

I actually don’t remember these so often mentioned framedrops. Even though I remember there where levels in Perfect Dark that would get very slow under certain circumstances. But I tend to overlook such thinks more then other thin-skinned people.

[@aaron_aj_knight_95]

​@@simonkwiatkowski4734 It's all over the place, mostly during explosions and in multiplayer. That's how the original game played.

[@RJARRRPCGP]

@@aaron_aj_knight_95 Yep, it's slow at times, it chomps on the Nintendo 64 CPU, TMK.

[@aaron_aj_knight_95]

@@RJARRRPCGP It's in the Switch version as well.

[@metallicarabbit]

yeah it was always not great but decent for a console shooter

[@AmyGrrl78]

My opinion is that Microsoft and Nintendo couldn't let each other have a good version of the game so they had to screw each other over with missing features.

[@silverhawkroman]

Ah yes, humans... willing to destroy the damn planet just to spite each other

[@Defensive_Wounds]

They screwed us the fans over moreso though.

[@LargeInCharge77]

Nah, this is your typical nintendo. They put zero effort into stuff like this, i dont what microsofts excuse is tho

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

@@LargeInCharge77 either way, people are acting like kids again seeing their favorite childhood game is back. honestly i love the aim is fixed and not the N64 weird aiming, the only con is the leaning is out.

[@overnightdelivery]

Goldeneye may not look great now. But sneaking through the vents and shooting the guard on the toilet from above, was epic at the time. 🙃

[@TheTodd5761]

As someone who's currently replaying it again via Xbox live.....It still is 😁

[@skycloud4802]

That was amazing at the time.

[@thegamingkitchen8429]

It was like riding a bike again

[@moisturisedgnome1181]

1997. Ahh

[@TheAuron32]

still is :D i love how i havent really grown up in some regards :D

[@davidmajor2793]

Played it on Xbox One, default controls,, and loved it. Took me back in time.

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

the pro is that i like how aiming is fixed, but it's a shame we can't lean like we used to.

[@anotherrandomguy8871]

I never played 007 till today. Tried it out on gamepass, and I like it so far, even though I only just started playing it.

[@RollingExistence]

Such a shame that this isn't the XBLA version with multiplayer. I played through it recently on Xenia and it's fantastic.

[@ChillingCrowley]

Getting 00 agent and unlocking all the cheats on this game is stupidly hard. Have so many find memories of Goldeneye both single and multiplayer modes. A true classic, one of about 10 essential N64 games

[@misterpinkandyellow74]

@SelfieCast you are talking nonsense.

[@iplaygames8657]

@SelfieCast mario kart was too much to handle for the n64 as the n64 hardware wasn’t good enough for what they wanted so idk what you talking about

[@ChillingCrowley]

@SelfieCast I had a different experience with the N64, there were some solid games and about 10 or so unmissable ones

[@ChillingCrowley]

@SelfieCast Perfect Dark Goldeneye Wave racer Pilot wings 64 Mario kart 64 Beetle adventure racing Zelda OoT Mario 64 Mario golf Excitebike 64 Paper Mario.

[@divinecomedian2]

Facility and Control were the hardest to unlock the cheats for

[@hamish_d]

Loving GoldenEye right now - attempting to do what 7 year old me could never achieve - finish the game on 00 agent, letsss gooo

[@EtherD86]

You can do it. You're stronger. Faster. Smarter. A terminator to the hordes of evil minions dressed in green.

[@MaynardOwns]

It was so satisfying. Now I’m trying to max it out on Xbox. I think I’ve done the “tough” ones. Like facility. Now it’s on to the hard ones like train and such

[@LonSeidman]

I wonder if the focus on providing content for subscription services vs. a game to be sold led to the mediocre experience here. They don't have to try as hard when the revenue is guaranteed.

[@Pendarr]

Also it’s Nintendo, they don’t have to try as hard and the revenue is guaranteed

[@Myako]

Very good point about the XBLA version. If the rights issue was resolved, I can't understand why it wasn't used as a base for this release. Still, at least the XBLA version is out there, and the various community patches/fixes for it make it even better.

[@josephk9636]

Yep the xbla version with a mod for mouse and keyboard is peak goldeneye

[@Whistler42]

Wait there are patches?

[@GreenLeefMusic]

I'm about to put the XBLA version on my Steam Deck. Which by the way already runs the original rom at 4k 60FPS & High Resolution textures much better than this version, though I know not the fault of the hardware

[@jrchannel7405]

I guess they don't want to release a game that was leaked and basically you can get for free. (well, you can can get the original for free too but you get my point)

[@halfbakedproductions7887]

That XBLA version was literally about 90% complete by the time it was canned. Such a shame. And because it was a full XDK rewrite, it was actually an Xbox 360 game that just happened to look like Goldeneye. Unlike this version which is emulated.

[@user-kt4km9df3f]

What I wished for this game was a graphic remaster, and all the stuff cut from the beta to be put back into the game (boat to the secret island on Dam, all Bonds, etc)

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

the problem with that was the celebs. Shawn C. wanted stupid amounts of money just to use his picture.

[@JezMM]

I know players see every bit of cut content as some special thing they missed out on, but cutting the island from dam was a deliberate artistic decision, the Devs said it broke the pacing of what was meant to be a fairly straightforward opening level. (Having said that, throwing a way to get over there into a remake as a secret easter egg for the hardcore fans would be pretty cool). And yeah All Bonds was a licensing matter - in fact I've read the one change to the game's rom on NSO+ that has been found is that ALL traces of All Bonds has been removed from the game's code - those portraits that were left behind in the original game to be found by modders are gone.

[@MrDazzlerdarren]

@@CallofDutyBlackOps28 Sean Connery you mean? .....took me a while 😀

[@user-kt4km9df3f]

@@JezMM There are things from our childhoods that were got robbed of and I thought it would have been pretty amazing to be able to play it.

[@JezMM]

@@user-kt4km9df3f Honestly, if it hadn't been cut, it would just be a normal part of the game, nothing special about it, and we would have taken it for granted. You'd ride over on the boat, maybe shoot a guard or two, and perhaps that underground room you visit on 00 Agent was originally going to be over there or something. I think there's something to be said for all the wonder and allure it ended up having, adding to all those playground rumours and internet myths that games had back in these days. Ultimately, all of that was probably more entertaining than the island would've been if they stuck to the original plan.

[@blunderingfool]

Hot off the presses! Not surprised this port is inferior to community made emulators though.

[@soldierofchrist7343]

There are no presses it's digital only. Once the servers for NSO and Rare Replay go down these versions of the game will still be lost and you will be restricted to only playing on the N64 again.

[@Cyborg647]

@@soldierofchrist7343 sure "officially"

[@soldierofchrist7343]

@@Cyborg647 I don't like pirating games. I know the developers aren't losing money, but it still just doesn't feel right to me. So unless I buy a $200 dollar device to rip my own cartridges it's pretty much the only option for somone like me. BTW I'm not claiming that you're a horrible person for downloading a rom. I'm just saying it's not my thing.

[@renewings]

@@soldierofchrist7343 i dont think rare replay is an online game

[@Cyborg647]

@@soldierofchrist7343 hey dont stress it , its all good sir

[@Tyler-hs9eu]

Glad to see your critique on this. Im also glad the "modding" community will be the ones to keep these classics alive after the companies abandon the live services

[@derpderpin1568]

Yea damn them for not wasting money to keep 13 people online. You need to be realistic and understand how absurdly low this games population is and would be. The XBLA version was dead within a week.

[@elitebum4184]

I’m enjoying the hell outta this game right now

[@harryhunter552]

Same, I mean sure there's probably imperfections but who cares, there were certainly imperfections when we were playing on potato TV's in the 90s and early 2000s with worn out N64 controllers. This game is fun as hell and I haven't come across any problems that affect my enjoyment at all, it's an ancient game, don't expect perfect frame rate and sound etc. Some ppl just want something to complain and make a fuss about

[@PP7Silenced]

Here here. I just wanted Goldeneye on Xbox and I'm loving every moment.

[@IFBBProCalebWalker]

10:25 -10:30 that part right there.

[@TimothyW8]

I’m having a blast as well. I remapped the controls and have no issues at all. It’s just too fun

[@justdontcare5271]

Just as fun to me now as it was when I was 10. So glad we got this again

[@andresbravo2003]

If it says “Prepare for Disappointment”, I’m about to soak in the sun.

[@luisquintero7359]

I don’t see how it’s a disappointment, let alone a massive one. Yes, both versions has its issues, but it’s not like game breaking glitchy bad like Cyberpunk’s disastrous launch or Fallout 76.

[@catethps]

@@luisquintero7359 because they basically just chucked the rom on their emulators and called it a day, there was almost no work put into these

[@doctorg5056]

@@catethps And at what point were you actually led to believe that this was going to have additional work put into it? The Goldeneye that has been released is the Goldeneye that was announced. Only KZbinrs seemed to be trying to convince people that Nintendo/Microsoft had promised any significant kind of overhaul.

[@catethps]

@@doctorg5056 because I had played the leaked build that was made from the ground up for Microsoft prior to this even being announced.... delivering a classic title with this level of incompetence in 2023 is abysmal these releases aren't even as good as the original release, i'm not expecting an overhaul

[@chemicalbeef3128]

@cane Really? I'm playing it on Xbox and the simple addition of a 2nd analog stick makes it a better experience than my N64 copy. When did the gaming community become such whiny, entitled crybabies over such trivial things? It's become so cringey and exhausting. It's a god damn 1997 game that was ported to modern consoles and that's all it was ever announced to be. Get over it.

[@oohhboy-funhouse]

Irony is that original N64 version has dual stick support by using two controllers. One of the alternate control mappings had Z trigger fire emulating a gun for a right hander(Default was left handed!), analogue stick under thumb for aim, d-pad to move, left shoulder to ADS. It's a forgotten father to today's default controller layouts. iirc it also had a lean around corner effect if you were right up on a corner, ADS and strafed a little you would lean presenting a smaller target and much easier to snap back. Or I could be imagining it. It has been forever since I last played it.

[@alexjohnward]

The 2 controller setup is still used to speedrun the game on several levels.

[@toonpik7]

You can still recreate this setup on switch using the two joycons, but it’s an annoying process.

[@SeanCMonahan]

I loved the two-controller setup!

[@roadrash2005]

Someone should 3d print something that connects two n64 controllers together into one massive monstrosity

[@SeanCMonahan]

@@roadrash2005 someone made this! Back in 2012, someone merged two N64 controllers into one. It's beautiful. kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4nQoYeqbbOgprsm42s

[@razorfett147]

Unfortunately the licensing nightmare that G64 has been mired in since the early 2000s probably played the biggest role in holding back the potential of this re-release. I tend to agree that the only way all the parties involved would allow this thing to live again on modern hardware is for it to be as close to a 1:1 with the original as possible. Its sad that we have sit here having to be thankful that Goldeneye is available at all, but given the number of cookie jars that had to be simultaneously pilfered to make this happen...it really is kind of a small miracle. My hope is that if the download numbers impress enough, maybe the licensing gods will be convinced to let more be done to remaster this classic in the future

[@JoshRami]

You can play online with one friend on the xbox version if you use the remote play feature

[@kevin.a.countis]

As an avid fan of the original, especially since I still have the original and original hardware, my glasses are made of pure roses. However, I will admit that it would've been nice to see this seriously upgraded with native ports to both consoles.

[@Batman89959]

I 100% Agree since Emulating the N64 is apparently seriously difficult why can't Nintendo just Form and Hire A Team that fully Remasters and makes A Modern Native Version of all these N64 Classics while having another Team work on the Newer Game's that would actually be A Smart Move I mean look at Square Enix with the Kingdom Hearts Franchise, Final Fantasy 7 to 12 all getting Remastered and Native Versions of the Games while still giving Us Final Fantasy 15, Final Fantasy 16, Chocobo GP, Final Fantasy 7 Remake and Kingdom Hearts 3 I am sure Nintendo has the Money to do it They just sadly Crap over Their Classics as always.

[@commanderkeen3787]

@@Batman89959 because there is absolutely no profit to be made in that. Just like the big Hollywood studios try to bury their old releases, game companies do the same

[@Batman89959]

@@commanderkeen3787 Which is stupid because 80's and 90's Nostalgia is at A all time high right now I mean Sonic Mania, Sonic Origin's, Crash and Spyro Trilogy Remakes, Crash Team Racing Remake, TMNT Cowabunga Collection and Atari 50 Anniversary Collection all were extremely successful and have high ratings from Gamer's.

[@Batman89959]

@@commanderkeen3787 I have been noticing that on Hollywood to where Indie Studio's like Shout Factory, Mill Creek and Arrow have been giving Us A ton of Retro Releases on DVD, Blu Ray and 4K while the Major Studios are just shoving Them to the side.

[@joeysorenson5122]

@@Batman89959 and when they do relase older , they are barebones cheap as we can make it relases.

[@angelthingjenny]

My best guess as a bystander with no actual knowledge of the circumstances is honestly that, considering how difficult securing the rights has always been, the XBLA version was fully scrapped in favor of emulation as part of stipulations both with MGM (possibly a "you cannot release a changed version, you can only release the nintendo 64 game as we already approved it) or concerns with Rare, considering how long ago that old port was made. It's possible that code loss might've occurred, or people who would need to be credited or paid for it no longer work with the company, so in the face of dealing with that, they decided to just opt for emulation instead, on account of the fact that they likely wouldn't make any additional money off of it anyway, being unable to sell it standalone.

[@jimmykewley8386]

For England, Alec

[@jmarx3943]

No...for me

[@DigitalAsshat]

I played the port on Xenia and a modded 360. It's a lot better but I still had fun with this when, to my surprise, it popped up as "owned" in my library.

[@YoDzOnHalo]

Anyone who owns rare replay digitally gets this version free

[@tiagopauloti]

Playing in Xbox 360 witch RGH modded. the Graphics are awesome

[@ThomastheDankEngine8900]

Can own it on Xbox, but not on Nintendo

[@voytech3892]

The amount of fist fights me and my buddys had in the 90s over this games brings back some good memories lol

[@cireza_]

It should be noted that Rare Replay was offered (for free) to all Xbox gamers in the past (after an E3 event, if I recall correctly). This was a very generous move from Microsoft honestly.

[@SebPlaysAnything]

So generous to give us a lazy remaster of a decades old game

[@smashtv8216]

It was free on mixer there live streaming service which shut down July 2020, they gave way loads of free stuff on that, I had a physical copy so was great to get a free digital version.

[@steve_en5903]

My god gamers are a bunch of entitled crybabies. Anyone who thought it would be anything other than an n64 virtual console version is an absolute moron

[@phattjohnson]

@@SebPlaysAnything Are you speaking as a Nintendo Switch player, or...?

[@cireza_]

@@SebPlaysAnything Rare Replay is actually a great collection, why the hate ?

[@RudeKeyser]

Go into Switch's Controller Settings, and swap the Left and Right sticks. Then, in GoldenEye's in-game settings, change to a setting that puts Look on the analog stick (I use 1.2 Solitaire). Applying both of these changes gives you forward/back movement and strafe on your Left stick, and look up/down/left/right on your Right stick.

[@James-zy5lh]

I appreciate this comment because with the stock controls the game just isn’t any fun.

[@JohnCharlesMartinIII]

You can also swap the right (ZR) and left (ZL) triggers so that you shoot with the right trigger and aim with the left trigger. I think you also have to invert the controls in-game to Up Right.

[@RudeKeyser]

@@JohnCharlesMartinIII Controls in-game default to inverted, correct.

[@JohnCharlesMartinIII]

@@RudeKeyser Yes, I believe so because in the video I saw, it was already set to Invert and was recommended to change to Up Right.

[@tomas_iss7469]

As someone who hasn’t played the original and is playing on switch: the game is FUN and seems to have aged well, why do y’all care about 60fps, 30 or whatever fps switch has is great and the controls don’t make the game unplayable, I personally chose the control scheme 1.2, changed L stick to R stick, R stick to L stick and moved A = B, B = Y, Y = X and X = A, i end up shooting with ZL, moving with L stick, Camera with R stick, reload and action with Y and changing weapon with B, having loads of fun

[@garymohan7929]

I swear, I looked at gameplay footage of it and immediately thought that footage looked the EXACT same as running it overclocked in Not64 on my Wii U.

[@Ozhull]

Uh, yeah, why wouldn't it? They're emulated, and you played another emulated copy...

[@Firthy2002]

@@Ozhull As an officially licenced release they could have done so much more like upgrade some of the textures.

[@Aidea._.]

@Firthy I feel like the agreement was probably just to release it as an emulated version in Rare & Nintendo's emulator collections, not to re-release it as a new, standalone remake. That would explain why we got this instead of a full remake. Though man, it would've been nice if Nintendo added a patch to remap the default controls... They've proven before that they totally can do something like that with memory patches.

[@saxoman1]

@@Ozhull How people like you completely miss the point of a comment like OP's on a channel like MVG is a mystery to me. Everytime, without fail, there's atleast one of you lol

[@saxoman1]

And yes OP, totally agree! This is not even a step up from my hacked Wii U with gamecube adapters (a Wii U I have because of MVG btw lol).

[@naswinger]

i'm so happy about all the efforts to preserve original games. most of the time they are the superior versions anyway and you get all the community efforts on top such as hacks, texture packs and emulator shenanigans. there are so few good remakes. most are just cash grabs.

[@prickly10000]

I will never understand why they re-release games on newer consoles without the source code. It's like Developers are so scared of the source code being leaked that they bury it somewhere I never remember where it is

[@Supersayainpikmin]

I was gonna play on Xbox, but I guess since I have a physical copy of Rare Replay I'm not good enough, I guess.

[@Cyborg647]

Yeah i was disappointed too, but extra because its only series x

[@CorporalDanLives]

I fired up the Series X version, saw the hideous polygon wobbling (probably the result of a low precision thing that was never intended to be rendered at 4K), and uninstalled it, saying "MVG is gonna have a field day with this."

[@kennypowers1945]

That’s odd, to me it looks like a clearer version of the original game. I’m playing though it on Xbox and am loving it.

[@theholydoge7616]

I dont know what you are talking about bro, the game looks amazing on my xbox. You must have been drunk or high

[@MartynC65]

I found that re configuring the joy cons through the switch settings menu and changing goldeneye controls to 1.2 was an acceptable way to play

[@symboltherapper]

I’ve been enjoying, like you said MVG, just lucky to be playing it in some capacity on modern consoles. Wish we could’ve got that 360 version, but at least we got achievements

[@AsmodeusMictian]

Go away idiot bot. (Not referring to OP.)

[@shaunydepp3665]

This I want to 100% the xbox version then will move to the 360 version, but it doesn't have the pause music and elevator music :/

[@PP7Silenced]

@@shaunydepp3665 Every version I've seen has the music.

[@02337755]

Thanks for explaining the Rare Replay situation I was excited for all of two seconds then heart broke.

[@FoxMcCloudFF7]

I do believe he must be mistaken. I have the physical version and I don't have Game Pass. As soon as I popped in the disc for Rare Replay into my Series X and installed it, GoldenEye popped up in the queue and was right there waiting for me!

[@02337755]

@@FoxMcCloudFF7 Really?

[@thans11]

I have it on Xbox one for free have rare reply digital addition

[@CallofDutyBlackOps28]

@@FoxMcCloudFF7 it is infact free for all rare replay owners, because i have goldeneye free as well.

[@btwo5168]

So it's in the in-game library

[@Markimark151]

The Switch version is the worst, there’s too much lag and the controls weren’t translated properly. At least the Xbox version is tolerable especially when it’s available to download for free with Rare Replay! I do feel MGM should’ve allowed the physical owners to get the game for free, but they probably want to take down Goldeneye 007 once the licensing agreement expires!

[@ChaosFraktal]

You should have mentioned 1964GEPD! It's esentially Project64 with a modified codebase for special support of GoldenEye and Perfect Dark. For example you can run both games with 60 fps. You can run both games even perfectly fine with mouse and keyboard!

[@Andy-rh9rl]

My favorite version, when i found that i fell back love with the game

[@h3r3si43]

Where do you find this version tho? Legally ofc I wanna use mouse and keyboard.

[@ChaosFraktal]

@Simon Espinosa🏳️‍🌈⃠ Not really. Or i can't find where he mentioned it. He just mentioned Project64. 1964GEPD is a fork, specially recoded for both games.

[@ChaosFraktal]

@@h3r3si43 YT won't let me answer you?

[@edherdman9973]

I skimmed through some of the video, so he might have mentioned it, but there's also a decompilation effort that should result in a native PC port, similar to Ocarina of Time. That's the one to watch. But GEPD was already good enough that I could breeze through levels with ease. It's actually embarrassingly easy to get even the 'difficult' times like Invincibility with GEPD.

[@mutalix]

Why can't the big wigs get it right?! At the very least release the 360 version, very disappointing for me.

[@e2rqey]

Because they don't give a shit and allocated the absolute bare minimum of resources to the project in the first place. Most don't play videogames at all. And even if they did at some point in their life, that time has long passed.

[@bionicgeekgrrl]

More likely that it got blocked by the licence rights holders, which is jointly eon and mgm (now owned by amazon). The xbla version was killed by mgm apparently.

[@Okorukoi]

what I found interesting is how the switch version was tiling many textures. Those lvl1 cliff textures for example are tiled 2 to 2.5 times(details repeated 2 to 3 times depending on area) while the xbox it spanned the entire height.

[@topsekret2679]

Yep, I noticed this immediately in side-by-side comparisons. I found video from the N64 original and it looks like the Xbox version is more faithful in this regard.

[@Phantron]

it's a mapping error from the emulation.

[@Markovanbaston]

I played it this morning and after remapping my 8 Bitdo pro+ controller around abit with the help of KZbin I was able to control it brilliantly. Love replaying this classic, its been years since I played it.

[@todorow22]

The XLBA version would blow your mind if you like this

[@SmuggPuppy]

I thought I was just being nostalgic about the game being better when I played the NSO version I knew the game felt weird to control

[@perpetualcollapse]

I was bombarded with replies when I left a comment on a video about GE NSO. I said that the controls for the joy cons were not very good and that I needed to use my N64 NSO controller to play comfortably because of muscle memory. People were doubting I played the original on N64 and said that I just needed to get good. Nintendo fans are delusional.

[@CandiedC]

@@perpetualcollapse I can confirm playing on real hardware is better than the NSO version. Xbox port is good too but it’ll always play better on its intended system.

[@beyondz55]

I've been using a retro bit controller and have had zero issues.

[@beyondz55]

@@CandiedC i have n64 cart n64 and crt and im enjoying the NSO more. Idk wtf you are talking about. Ofc input latency is better on the original n64...no shit.

[@YoDzOnHalo]

@@perpetualcollapse I had a 22 year old tell me I never played GE either lol I’m 32 and N64 was my first console lol

[@bluefox9er]

Classic example of how people think a game from 23 years ago will still hold up today. Only the heavyweights like Defender, Robotron, Missile Command, Tempest etc can stand the test of time

[@technicallyme]

My nostalgia must have been in over drive I missed all the flaws 😅

[@jamestobias5066]

The 30FPS lock does make some sense, but is still disappointing The main thing that breaks when running the game at 60FPS is weapon fire rates, they're effectively doubled, which does impact the gameplay quite negatively in my opinion so I understand the decision. But the XBLA version runs at 60FPS and has weapon fire rates accurately adjusted to compensate for this, which makes it all the more baffling this version wasn't used as a base. Even if they removed the updated graphics (which don't look all that great anyway if I'm honest) and just kept the original visuals running on the updated code, that would have been so much better than what we've got here.

[@goranisacson2502]

A rumour I've heard, so take it with the usual grain of salt, as for why they didn't use the XBLA version as the basis for a re-release of Goldeneye is that simply and sadly... they never had the legal rights to do the XBLA remake. Rare made what they did of that game NOT on MGM and EON's order or with their allowance, but as a pitch version more or less- some interviews say they started making the game because some of them had heard that Nintendo was okay with it, but there was never a formal contract. And that, I think, would've REALLY sunk it. Because MGM's approach to video games is SO ass-backwards, it has been stated they were EXTREMELY frustrated with Goldeneye not because it sold badly, but because it portrayed Bond in ways that were not what they wanted for the brand. Multiplayer where Bond could shoot and kill Bond girls? FORBIDDEN! Bond being able to kill civilians in the campaign? FORBIDDEN! All that slipped through in Goldeneye N64 because the MGM brand managers were WAY asleep at the wheel during the whole process, but once the game was out in the open and they saw the utter DISGRACE it was (in their eyes) they locked down HARD on all future Bond games. And that's the big impediment- the XBLA release would be a "new" game, and have to go through new legal checks. Goldeneye N64 is "already vetted", and as such it slips through the legal check far easier because, well, they already said yes once and apparently the system operated on some complex kind of "no take back-sies". So if they were gonna use the XBLA release they would have to wrestle the movie people for a lot of time and money, all for a game that wasn't finished AND the people who worked on it may not even be at Rare anymore... ooor they go for emulating the version that is already "complete" and legally okay. Sadly, we could all see the end-result coming from that choice.

[@AvoozlPlays]

26 years later and all we got was emulation level goldeneye ported to console, no actual HD graphics one which was canceled long ago, such a half effort port, hopefully when the game is 30 they will actually release a modern graphics version.

[@Trowelhands]

This game is absolutely going to get Super Mario 3D Allstars'd.

[@SigmaChicken09]

who cares

[@ThomastheDankEngine8900]

Lmfao love the terminology

[@awii.neocities]

@@SigmaChicken09 a lot of fans do

[@user1point0]

Then just pirate it, it's not like these are good releases tbh

[@awii.neocities]

@@user1point0 Xbox games can't be pirated.

[@rcyoung86]

While not perfect, I'm super grateful to have the opportunity now to just turn on my Xbox and start playing GoldenEye 007. I think too many people expected something different, I knew it was going to be somewhat similar to the original N64 version with minor improvements. With that being said, I'm happy to have GoldenEye 007 again, I haven't played this amazing classic in well over a decade or more. Also, I'm not sure how accurate this information is, but there's speculations that the remastered version of GoldenEye 007 for the X360 was cancelled because Nintendo stepped in. I do hope they do patch the game in order to fix some of the issues on both platforms, GoldenEye 007 is a classic that should get the most upright respect and treatment.

[@shioyoutube9041]

I definitely understand locking to 30, I’ve used 1964 at 60fps and both games definitely had trouble, they were mostly fine but then you’d find weird issues in places, most notably any crouching guard would skip the reloading action block, this seems to be fixed in more recent versions of 1964 but I remember back in the day it made Perfect Dark’s Air Force One almost unbeatable since the crouching Mr. Blonde’s would just shoot an endless stream of bullets without reloading or standing up. It’s a real shame none of these are perfect, I really wish they’d finish up the XBLA version, I still think I prefer the look of the original graphics but a remaster like that would be amazing to see, if Perfect Dark could get such a good one so should Goldeneye. I think they could still make these versions work, if they gave both of them a locked 30fps, improved controls, and online multiplayer, but like this they’re so disappointing. But at least thanks to the switch version we do have a way to finally play the game online. I just hope some fans can finish up the 360 version, I think with enough effort that could be ported to run natively on PC and have any unfinished features finished.

[@KevinA559]

Something to note. A level like Streets has significant frame rate drops. During the drops, the in game clock keeps running at normal speed. This makes time goals significantly harder than they used to be. You have to switch to d-pad movement to be able to pull off the Streets agent, and Statue secret agent time goals without a crazy level of difficulty.

[@retrogamer64007]

Is it just me or does bond get movement speed boost after pressing forward for about 5 seconds? Like he goes from run to sprinting

[@PP7Silenced]

The D-pad trick is so nice on Xbox. It feels much easier the how straff running in Perfect Dark or on an N64 controller did.

[@MGMan37]

@@retrogamer64007 Yes that was in the original game too.

[@joshwalters3148]

@@retrogamer64007 they make the speed up just by pressing forward but it's inconsistent.....I had to switch controls so strafe and forward were on 2 sticks instead of one to hit target times

[@MoneyManHolmes]

Players who compete for fast times play the game with Bond mostly looking at the ground to reduce lag and save time.

[@lezlienewlands1337]

The physical Rare Replay situation had me a bit miffed. Unfortunately, with a lot of things in the world, it's at the behest of whoever owns the rights.

[@doctorg5056]

"We were told this was going to be the original game made available via Switch Online, in the same way many other games have been made available. Despite this being exactly what we were told we were getting, I, as a KZbinr, was expecting something very different. Here is a lengthy video on why you should be outraged for being given what you were told you were being given."

[@agik137]

I think that Goldeneye was an amazing game and no matter how hard anybody tries, It will never be the same as it was in 1997 because world has changed. Sometimes it's just better to remember them as they were and move on. In 20 years time we'll be saying the same about something else

[@johnnylchase]

THIS. ALL OF THIS

[@keithmcgerr3056]

Doom changed everything, & so did Quake & so did Goldeneye. They are absolutely timeless games & help definite modern fps of to this day.

[@b3no156]

Nawl..007 deserved a remake

[@CreeVal]

I stayed up very late yesterday to play this and man was it a lot of fun. I agree with MVG that the XBLA version should have been the base, that was what I was looking for, but this isn't bad either, its a modern tech friendly version of an old classic and I love that this has found it's way back in my life so many years after I played it continuously for several years after release. Thanks for covering this... It was a true pleasure :)

[@ryuzxa]

Yeah man Goldeneye 007 on the N64 is one of the worst FPS game ever made, and people defend it by saying that FPS game wouldn't exist without Goldeneye 007. Like that is the worst thing I've ever heard

[@ThePhantomnaut]

Given their track record with ports and online efforts, Code Mystics should have gotten access to Rare’s XBLA version and the source code. I wouldn’t be surprised if they added rollback netcode like what they are doing with SNK’s latest games (half joke). It would have both satisfy those with nostalgia and those who want a more definitive experience, if Nintendo is to blame. At least Perfect Dark has online MP.

[@abrahamicreligionsbowbefor3585]

And that's 13 years old, pathetic...

[@CaptainKenway]

Nintendo's consent was a big factor in the game being re-released at all. There's no way that they'd have accepted the Xbox version looking so much better. Yes, the XBLA code could have been ported to Switch, but that would have been a much bigger time and money investment than just using their existing emulation framework. They'd have had to hire Code Mystics (or another studio) to do the work, rather than being able to simply do it in-house. Microsoft would also have to be willing to hand over the source code for the code for the XBLA port in such a scenario, and they may not have wanted to do that for free. Or the source code may even have been lost, given it's an unreleased game from 15+ years ago. Who's to say Rare even have it any more? Overall, I'm not surprised that this is all we get. As with everything related to GoldenEye, there are just too many complications for the XBLA version to ever resurface officially.

[@goranisacson2502]

​@@CaptainKenway I have also heard (and this may be bullshit since it's all just twitter / forum talk) that one complication for the XBLA versions release is that the Rare devs working on it didn't actually have MGM:s permission to to do so. They were working on it as a pitch more or less, but never actually had permissions to do so- which means that if that version were to become playable everything in it would have to be scrutinized and investigated- but Goldeneye N64 is already vetted, and it is probably WAY quicker for them, and less legal bullshit to cut through, to go with the N64 version.

[@MountainHomeJerrel]

I always forget you're a fellow Aussie until you casually mention it.

[@skspawn]

I had no issues with how the Xbox version played or ran. It was as accurate a recreation of the original version I could ask for. I don't care about "60fps" or aby of that.

[@LordTechnopants]

I have a physical copy of Rare Replay and expected GE007 to pop up on my XB yesterday, but no. Oh well. I've already moved on frankly. I played this landmark title to death Christmas 97 & through 98 and so my nostalgia will have to stay there. I don't really miss that 'wobbly hand' aiming system, but - such happy memories of chasing my other half around those stone passages, opening and closing doors as we went (with paintball guns). Nice. 97 was a good Christmas and it was a joy to own an N64 (still have the boxed cartridge). Never seen the film though!

[@AfterBurnerTeirusu]

@@MuddiedProphet I couldn't download it. It just told me to buy an another copy of rare replay for 30€.

[@MuddiedProphet]

@@AfterBurnerTeirusu Yeah, I was stupid and commented that based on what was said pre-release months ago and the assumption it applied to physical copies as well. I have the digital version, so I was able to download it. I got towards the end of the video and he said that if you have a physical copy you have to buy it digitally, so I deleted my comment, sorry T_T

[@fernandomartinez4486]

The weird thing is, MS allows people to use old 360 and OG xbox discs in order to download digital version of old titles. And now they dont allow us to use an actual and current disc of rare replay to get golden eye? Makes no sense.

[@TheInfiniteNine]

Never seen the film? Bro go see it already!

[@SENATORPAIN1]

kind of hard to believe microsoft literally have a fully made remake sitting on there shelf yet they release this.

[@PP7Silenced]

Yeah if they released the remaster they would have to clear it with Nintendo, share it with Nintendo, and write about 50 different royalty checks to the people who were involved in 1997 and haven't even thought about the game since then.

[@AlexeyFilippenkoPlummet]

Corporations are taking over more and more. Enthusiasts made an awesome emulated version of the game back in early 2000s? What a shame, in 2023 it's simply not possible to make 60 or at least solid 30 fps version of a 1997 game on cutting edge systems, mate. Oh, and we also can't figure out good controls. What was that, you didn't like it? Ok how about we add this to the deal - you won't be able to play the game at all if you haven't repurchased the digital version of the service, and once our digital services is shut down, you'll lose access to your game anyways! Ok now bring us your money and you better not criticize us too much or we will surely find a way to cancel you. Life is good! (for corporate elites).

[@hammersampson]

I was pleasantly surprised that it was a free download for me. I love the changes they made to the controls, and widescreen support on the Xbox version. Looking forward to a cheat code that’ll unlock the Xenia version.

[@phoenixrising4995]

I'm suprised Nightdive Studio didn't remake this one. The did a good job with Quake and Blood. Imagine this on the Kex engine.

[@mr.awesome6011]

Kex Engine was also used for the awesome Turok ports

[@enfynet]

The biggest hurdle has always been the Eon rights to the characters. The original GE007 would have had all the Bond actors if Eon hadn't stopped them. This emulated release shows that Microsoft and Nintendo can play along together, but it's the actual 007 owners who are stopping everything.

[@lauramiller3828]

Surprised you talked so little about the worst offender here, which is the sound of the Xbox version, it's compressed, muffled and delayed, immediately noticeable to anyone that has played recently, completely ruined this version for me, hoping it gets patched. The controls on the Switch are literally a non-issue since you can remap them very easily.

[@jackmcslay]

In the original game you can play with the analog being used for aiming with the C buttons being used for moving (keep telling that to youtubers that call it dated because it has 'tank controls'). It seems likely the Switch version might have that feature as well. It also has dual analog support by using two controllers which I suspect the X1 version tapped into in order to implement the now conventional controls.

[@jomaq9233]

1) While it is true that you can’t exactly expect older games to have all the modern conveniences you’d expect, it’s also true that you can’t just expect everyone to just immediately get used to and be okay with some potentially dated mechanics Also, is the Xbox version also emulated, or is it a native port? I really want to know

[@sharoyveduchi]

@@jomaq9233 yes both are emulation.

[@jlotto5165]

I don’t understand the hate about this re-release. The devs made it clear before launch that it’s just a port of the classic n64 game for the people that played it back then that want to enjoy the game now. What did y’all expect a full remaster? As far as the controls on switch, there’s tutorials on how to reroute the controls. Takes 3 minutes to do. Every “bad” review so far is just a bunch of nitpicking.

[@RubyRoks]

Seeing as Perfect Dark is already playable on Xbox 360, One, and Series, i think your theory about licensing being the source of the version compromises makes sense. I hope someone is able to get access to the code for both of these releases and preserves them. It'd be interesting to see the different approaches taken to get the games emulated, what specific ROM dump they're using, how NSO was implemented and if similar functionality could be added to the Xbox version etc etc. Likewise, i hope someone is able to port the XBLA version of the game as homebrew to these consoles in some way if they haven't already

[@jdemuro1]

“Licensing hell” is what keeps the whole emulation world alive and well. These massive companies can’t pull it together to remaster a 25 year old video game, and the end result is this half baked product. There’s clearly a market for these older games, and it’s sad that to this day we don’t have a reliable way of officially purchasing and playing these titles. NSO will eventually become defunct some time in the future, and you’ll lose access to this title if you’d subscribed. Emulation just makes all this so much more accessible, and people will continue to pirate ROMs for this reason, and the emu development community will continue to do their incredible work…pro bono.

[@thebest2897]

this probably isnt the version my cousins and I played local MP on when we were kids, but this is the first time I've gotten hardcore nostalgia for a game

[@griminc6548]

I mean its a port/emulation so technically it the exact same game

[@CheapBastard1988]

0:57 RIP dimly lit room OLED users. MY EYES!!!

[@darktetsuya]

I definitely loved it a lot back in the day so hearing it was finally dropping this week I was quite psyched! I only played it over on XBOX and for the most part I'm happy with it. But somewhere along the line the classic cheat codes didn't make the cut. You CAN still get them by finishing the specific levels in the fastest time, but some of us never got that good, so we're just SOL. Aside from that and the lack of online I don't have much to complain about, playing vs. mode matches with my wife (who also spent a lot of time in GE N64) has been an absolute blast! so even without cheats we're having a ton of fun with it.

[@green929392]

As someone that played the original plenty of times, the release leaves alot to be desired. They should have used the xbox live arcade build; but it's like you said they were limited to what they were allowed and that was most likely emulation to keep parity between versions.

[@owenling]

This game is a licensing nightmare, not only do you have the James Bond 007 license to contend with but also the fact that any remaster would have to separately license the actor's likenesses, along with things like the branded gadgets. It's a lot of time and money to sink into something that anyone not agreeing with could stop pretty much outright. I believe rereleasing the original game without creating new assets was the only way round this. It's a shame but I'm happy just to see a modern rerelease at all.

[@PP7Silenced]

You're right but people will bitch nomatter what. We're lucky to get it as good as it is.

[@seanys]

I blame the lawyers.

[@Whatnoww]

MVG, really appreciate you making honest sponsor spots, especially for VPN's. Where most people outright call out false selling points for VPN's which are misleading and damaging, you're always using accurate points and real use cases and mitigations that VPN's can actually provide. Thank you for this, it really shows that you pay attention to detail and it's always been something I've enjoyed from your channel over the past years I've been subbed.

[@MondySpartan]

I believe Tom Scott changed the VPN sponsorship game.

[@themightybagle99]

If only we got the version that was being developed back during the 360 era. It’s seriously a shame since it was supposed to have online multiplayer plus updated visuals, but it never came to be.

[@jimmyv3170]

Goldeneye with mario characters is the definitive way to play this game.

[@GreenLeefMusic]

I wonder if this would've worked with a modded switch. The definitive way to own a switch.

[@jimmyv3170]

@@GreenLeefMusic I'm not sure on the modding community of the switch but if they have a N64 emulator that can support the plugins then it should work.

[@Draliseth]

No Toad!

[@myleghurts7419]

I noticed some issues when played it on series s but it was nice to see the game back. Especially with controls on Xbox

[@jakekt]

The Switch version does have dual stick controls though. You have to set the controls to 1.2 Solitaire and swap the sticks in the system settings. I wish it was the default, sure, but it's wrong to say that modern controls aren't an option in the Switch version.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

And I played the hell out of that game in my youth.

[@AaronH9111]

I own the physical version of Rare Replay and was bummed Goldeneye was only going to be released for the Digital Version,.. I just decided to buy it so I could have Goldeneye

[@retrogamer64007]

Goldeneye on own isn’t sold separately. You bought rare replay digital right?

[@FoxMcCloudFF7]

I have the physical version and I don't have Game Pass. As soon as I popped in the disc for Rare Replay into my Series X and installed it, GoldenEye popped up in the queue and was right there waiting for me!

[@AaronH9111]

@@FoxMcCloudFF7 Oh really?

[@FoxMcCloudFF7]

@@AaronH9111 I mean yeah, of course I did this on launch day so if it isn't working now then they patched it out for some reason!

[@AaronH9111]

@@FoxMcCloudFF7 that's fine I'm not mad at all, but they just kept saying it was only for the Digital Version of Rare Replay So I bought it and really didn't cost that much anyways or take up much space on the HDD I really didn't want to buy the same game twice, but at least I can access it now from the HDD and not have to mess with the disc so it's all good :)

[@Snotnarok]

I've been seeing people say "Just be happy we got this at all" Can't believe standards have been lowered so much that we got people defending a game that was already completed and has legendary status with nostalgia, but sure let's settle for jank instead of giving MGM & the other publishers feedback given how borked it is. It's pretty funny that the XB version of all versions has compressed audio given you'd think that'd be more of a 64 issue given the hardware limitations. But no, somehow the cart is doing better than the digital version of a game from the 90s. They're likely banking on this kinda attitude, that "Why bother? Just kick it out and it's good enough". It's truly shameful, I can't imagine what hell the devs went through dealing with all the legal tape the publishers & Rights holders had put up with. Hopefully the true hero, Timesplitters 2 & Future Perfect get good remaster/ports/whatever so this way we get the GoldenEye sequels, remastered, that we deserve.

[@pugtronix]

Started playing it friday morning, so much fun and every bit as good as I remember! Still have the original on my N64 but unfortunately there's an annoying amount of lag when plugged into a modern telly, I also have it running on an emulator (Retroarch) it runs smoothly and even though you can completely re-map the buttons for an Xbox controller it doesn't quite feel intuitive enough and every now and then it crashes. So to have it available on game pass and to play so smoothly is just absolute heaven for me, well chuffed and not disappointed at all! 😊👍

[@ResidentWeevil2077]

Those are my only issues with emulation of N64 games, and N64 FPSes in particular: the controls. I loved the system to death...but that controller was probably the console's biggest detriment (even more so than it being cartridge-based, since Capcom was able to port RE2 to the N64).