Golf Swing release, what is it? Release matchups in the golf swing.

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Elite Golf Schools

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8 ай бұрын

Golf swing release, what is actually happening when you release the club? In this video TJ and Riley go over what the golf swing release is in depth. Understanding what "release type" is correct for your personal swing is key, in developing an optimal golf swing.
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@markfurlong800
@markfurlong800 4 ай бұрын
Finally, someone that explains what they are teaching. There are different swing methods are most coaches don’t explain which type they are teaching so can be so damaging. I’ve only just started watching your videos and I am blown away by the level of detail and understanding of the bio mechanics and golf swing you have. Really appreciate the time you put into these videos. ⛳️
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 4 ай бұрын
So glad you’re enjoying! Thanks for watching
@mwsports
@mwsports 6 ай бұрын
One of the most informative videos on KZbin. I’m working through the passive release match up and fighting my old pattern. Understanding what the wrists need to do through the strike has never been better explained than it is here. Love it.
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic!! Pair up the hand/wrist action with an elevated lead elbow through the strike. Can’t do this with a lead shoulder that’s moving into excess extension 🙏
@mwsports
@mwsports 6 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschoolsMission accepted! 🔨
@Olorin323
@Olorin323 Ай бұрын
Been playing hard now for 5 years and watched a lot of instruction and lessons. Found your channel for a week and no one explains stuff like you do. Brilliant stuff. For me, I found I'm a guy that naturally fits the stable face system and what I was missing was that right wrist supination. I could never figure out how to release the club without rotating the face. I have to feel a lot of right wrist supination, but now I finally feel what the players meant when they said "I can't release it fast enough". Hoping to save up and get your video system series. More epiphanies in the last week than in the last 2 years.
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools Ай бұрын
Right on! Please keep us posted on your progress!
@alexander.aichelburg654
@alexander.aichelburg654 7 ай бұрын
For me this concludes the most important series of golf instruction ever published on the internet, starting with secret swing sequence, creating space in the golf swing and release match ups. Thank You!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 7 ай бұрын
So glad you found these videos helpful
@russbrown9286
@russbrown9286 5 ай бұрын
You guys rock !!! A light bulb just went off 😂😂. You explaining the matchups will help diagnosis shots and how to fix and/ or choose a swing that fits the individual players. Love your system and definitely your in-depth explanations. Not just swing this way approach. Keep the videos going. You are helping the game of golf 👊👍!!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 5 ай бұрын
Just made our whole day!! Keep hitting them well! And keep us posted, we’re here to help in any way 🙏❤️
@dandaninglis
@dandaninglis 8 ай бұрын
Thinking of trail wrist supination as an active release is such a great concept, helps a ton!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Right on! Can definitely help organize the club as you’re turning and burning!
@s3gts
@s3gts 8 ай бұрын
This is a Ford vs Ferrari question. High Torque vs High Rev. They both have their place! Question: To crack a whip do I feed it more whip around the corner? Or do I slow the handle down? It's all Energy... That's all it is! Your water analogy coming out the club is a good one. Been there done that. If I could open a valve to let the water out at impact I would dump it all out on the ball. I see no reason to carry water beyond Impact. The club will continue onward but I would hope to have released my load. Proximal vs Distal relationships. If at address you have the club gripped Square to your intended line of flight and keep it Square to YOU then dumping all of your leveraged Energy on the Ball will send it where you want.. Keep up the Great work Gents.
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Thanks bro
@lenardtan7169
@lenardtan7169 6 ай бұрын
Great helpful tips
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 6 ай бұрын
Fantastic!!! 🙏🙏
@paulwhite6367
@paulwhite6367 4 ай бұрын
I’ve struggled so much with that release/impact. This is 🔥
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 4 ай бұрын
Let’s go!!
@tonymartino7892
@tonymartino7892 4 ай бұрын
I know the positions are exaggerated for the purpose of getting your head around them and your body prepared for them but it would be nice to see a super slow motion of a full speed swing and see the actual positions come together. This stuff is awesome! Thank you!!
@acnhnris
@acnhnris 8 ай бұрын
That’s it! I have to get on a plane and get to AZ to see you Riley for a lesson! What a great video lesson here. Been struggling to understand pre and post impact with the hands on the passive release. Thank you 🙏
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Let us know anytime! Only issue…. Riley does the majority of his in person sessions in Colorado. Keep us posted and hope to work with you on your game sometime soon! Cheers!
@allama875
@allama875 8 ай бұрын
it's interesting to me that the "turn down" action of the hands is still a powerful force and important for timing in a "body" swing. The chest may be the engine, but the hands are always the steering wheel. At least in terms of my feels :)
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Definitely!
@amoon3274
@amoon3274 4 ай бұрын
I had the swing sequences down with the exception of the supination. I can’t wait to go to the range and supinate!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 4 ай бұрын
Let’s goooooo!!! Let us know how it goes!
@at1108
@at1108 8 ай бұрын
Amazingly detailed breakdown of a swing! Well done. Please consider doing one for the driver…. Unless you think it is the same thinking. 😊
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Absolutely the same thinking!
@user-gs2dm8jj2n
@user-gs2dm8jj2n 4 ай бұрын
This question relates to both trying to determine how much “down” should there be and struggling with matching that up while turning left shoulder up and away? I am 61 and life time hip spinner and flipper 😅. This system is quite honestly freaking me out in a good way. Whether I can perform the moves or not I am blown away by these videos. Thank you for sharing your work!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 4 ай бұрын
Fantastic! Just remember, it’s not law… you don’t need to do anything perfectly in order to feel great! Just need the right amount for your own swing 🙏
@jrintal2185
@jrintal2185 8 ай бұрын
D*mn! This is so helpful! Looks and sounds to me that a shut face in P5 is better. Thank you so much!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
For certain movements, it can be a great match up!
@slytown
@slytown 8 ай бұрын
This video is so good. A great explanation of why juniors have so much vertical movement.
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Thanks so much man! Glad you enjoyed!
@edogaktop
@edogaktop 8 ай бұрын
This is gold
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Thanks man!
@marcom6984
@marcom6984 8 ай бұрын
Hello from Dubai Tomorrow I will start to use your sistem Your lessons are amazing Thank you. Marco
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Marco!
@593summersound
@593summersound 7 ай бұрын
that combination of ulnar/suppination of the trail hand/arm is so interesting. I've never heard it discussed like you guys do. I've tried to work it into some practice sessions, and it feels like a missing piece of the rotational puzzle for sure. It goes very nicely with rib sway and lead arm internal rotation/abduction through transition!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 7 ай бұрын
Right?! All about match ups. If you're going to rotate through the strike then you can't roll it over the plane!
@samridgebag
@samridgebag 5 ай бұрын
Solid gold nugget Riley and TJ!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 5 ай бұрын
@@samridgebag 🙏🙏🙏
@The_sunday_lout
@The_sunday_lout 8 ай бұрын
More great info gents. Would you say, that changing the feel at P5. Along with some set up tweaks is a good way to create shot shape?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Can potentially be a great way to do that!!!
@codyschofield_
@codyschofield_ 8 ай бұрын
What would you classify a Mike Bender release as? Would that be closer to the second release talked about in this video?
@mpuncekar
@mpuncekar 8 ай бұрын
I love your videos so much, genuine gold. If supination is important in the rotational body match, in the pelvic type driven match demonstrated, what is the dominant movement in comparison with that release?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Early pronation to help square the face!
@ken-scottleembruggen6887
@ken-scottleembruggen6887 8 ай бұрын
thats 100% me, always struggled to draw the ball, close the face, hood the face, flexion of lead wrist, extension of trail wrist, hit from inside, no chance...this explains why... thanks guys. if i want to draw it, i have to roll the forearms, or thats my feel
@ken-scottleembruggen6887
@ken-scottleembruggen6887 8 ай бұрын
also explains why dustin, collin and jon are have massive bowed wrists at the top and all fade the ball
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Exactly bro!! Good stuff
@Longarmshortarm
@Longarmshortarm 7 ай бұрын
Loved this video. My favourite shut face rotator to watch is Cam Smith - such an extremely passive release. Would you have any general tips toward developing this type of swing? Assuming no physical limitations. I am guilty of being the slight draw bias, higher face rotation, high ball flight, "hitter" and have been trying to become more of a "swinger". 🙏
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 6 ай бұрын
Cam smith is tremendous 🙏
@johanaberg621
@johanaberg621 8 ай бұрын
Trail wrist supination seems like a mental key for understanding how a baseball-esque swing would actually hit the ball (and not just fly over it). Correct?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
It is definitely part of the map on how to continue to motor the club for some 🙏
@jordanelmquist3202
@jordanelmquist3202 5 ай бұрын
Could you explain the difference in this right bend in the downswing that looks similar to how Tiger and Will Zalitoris injured their backs?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 5 ай бұрын
The higher the bend in the spine, the more healthy 🙏 extension and bend/rotation in the l spine is what kills backs
@blackcheek39
@blackcheek39 8 ай бұрын
Such a great video. Quick tips are great for KZbin clicks but don't work for everyone. I love that you take the time to explain the whys of your system instead of just "turn more" or don't "early extend". Keep up the good work fellas
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Gotta go deep sometimes to truly understand 🙏 thank you!
@ajnunc564
@ajnunc564 5 ай бұрын
So you both prefer low rates of club face rotation, but at the end “can I flush one” it looks like he has a really high rate of rotation? and you both loved the shot it was pure, is that just the camera angle tricking me or did he rotate the face a lot on the last full shot
@justinhong4540
@justinhong4540 8 ай бұрын
As an armsy/handsy releaser myself, I feel like I can't create speed with a passive release. The caveman hit impulse takes over last second. Any advice on how to make the change to a passive release? Assuming my pivot and arm structure are in the right place?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
You still want to feel like you can “hit” it, but the hit might feel different. Would experiment with lead arm high, COM down to “hit”
@jack-hq7gr
@jack-hq7gr 8 ай бұрын
Would seniors be better served by using more face rotation with pelvic tilt - ball speeds probably more relative to mid range LPGA ?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
In many cases, yes probably. All depends on the player!
@jack-hq7gr
@jack-hq7gr 8 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools Thanks, maybe some of your senior students and or female golfers to demonstrate more of the choices and concepts?
@DAVIDYIUSC
@DAVIDYIUSC 4 ай бұрын
Hi there 👋🏻 This is David from Hong Kong. I found this channel amazing, and would like to share it with my dad. The only catch is that he doesn't know English. Do you have any ideas on how we could make this work?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 4 ай бұрын
Oh wow… what a great question. I’m not sure, however, any techie folks out there that can help with this question?
@DAVIDYIUSC
@DAVIDYIUSC 4 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools perhaps chatgpt can help. You may gain some audience speaking other languages.
@sd1132
@sd1132 8 ай бұрын
Would it be accurate to say that if you have trouble with getting a sufficient hip flexion/drop (read I’m over 50 yrs old!) that you would need more supination of the trial wrist to compensate coming into dilivery?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Yes, correct!
@user-mc5rs2tu6r
@user-mc5rs2tu6r 5 ай бұрын
What swing release pattern would you recommend for a player 5'6" with 160 lbs of mass? I personally love rotational release pattern. Will I able to generate enough distance with this pattern though? Thanks!
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 5 ай бұрын
It’s all about the right recipe for you. I’m not sure I would prescribe one or the other. Probably in the middle, honestly!
@jeffkellytucker8966
@jeffkellytucker8966 8 ай бұрын
What “system” would you consider Lucas Glover? I’ve watched dozens of videos of him, literally thousands of times and he has a “low rotation” move, maintains his posture throughout, yet the club appears to sling closed after impact with the face of the club pointed to the ground in his follow through while predominantly playing a fade. I’ve been working hard to rotate and maintain posture as you teach your system, while also admiring his swing, and my club face remains square throughout, yet I play a very slight draw. I have not been able to duplicate his release with this pattern at all.
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Glover is so pivot driven that he can afford to fully release the club through impact and still hit a fade. Something many of us drool over! So good. My advice: keep working!
@jeffkellytucker8966
@jeffkellytucker8966 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for the response!!! Can you clarify what you mean by pivot driven? And yes his swing is amazing, every shot no matter how far back I go looking for videos, are nearly identical.
@user-gh6uj3vb1t
@user-gh6uj3vb1t 2 ай бұрын
At impact where does your lead arm/hand point and where does your back arm/ hand point for a normal shot? thanks
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 2 ай бұрын
Totally depends on how the player grips it at the start 🙏🙏
@user-gh6uj3vb1t
@user-gh6uj3vb1t 2 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools Say for the normal preferred grip in your grip video. Thinking about which forearm aligned to shaft and which forearm aligned to ball concept. Or?? Question stems from a driving range discussion. As always thanks!
@albinponce-ha153
@albinponce-ha153 8 ай бұрын
For the ‘Closed-Face, More body rotation’ matchup, is there trail arm extension or are we trying to keep that trail arm angle through impact? Or is there just SOME degree of release of that angle in trail but not fully released at impact?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Some release, but the trail arm would still be a little bent at the strike, not fully exteneded
@albinponce-ha153
@albinponce-ha153 8 ай бұрын
Amazing, thanks for the insightful content and interactions! Y’all are doing great stuff on here
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Youre the best!! Thank you for interacting and the kind words!! @@albinponce-ha153
@tubanejosephmokoena593
@tubanejosephmokoena593 5 ай бұрын
I concur with regards to this being above the rest of KZbin instructional videos. I have implemented these movements and I have seen some improvements in my ball striking However, as a 68 year old man, I seem to be experiencing some pain issues after the game. Is the swing meant for youngsters? Tubane Rep of South Africa
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 5 ай бұрын
Should be no pain no matter the age! Where’s the pain occurring??
@tubanejosephmokoena593
@tubanejosephmokoena593 5 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools Thanks for the quick response. I am totally amazed by your humility, The pain is just below the scapular and on the lats.
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 5 ай бұрын
@@tubanejosephmokoena593 super interesting! Usually happens based on too much scap retraction throughout swing. A more neutral biased scap should help alleviate a lot of that ache. If that is not the case, probably need to look at breaking up some of that tissue/fascia in the scap region. When you unload the club there is a heavy amount of tissue stretch in that area based on the unload of the club (scaps with both heavily protract). Can be incredibly painful when those lines tear.
@chaseblossom
@chaseblossom 8 ай бұрын
Is the supination motion to get the club to the ground as you're describing the same as ulnar release? If there's a difference, can you please clarify?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
It is the same, I described it poorly in past videos. Ulnar deviation can not happen when the trail wrist is still extended. Because trail wrist is still extended, the proper term is supination 🙏
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Yep! However, ulnar only happens when the wrist is first in a neutral state. When the wrist is in extension, it’s not ulnar, it’s a supination move
@chaseblossom
@chaseblossom 8 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools Unless a super strong lead hand, lead wrist will ulnar release though, correct? Just trying to make sure my mental picture is correct before torturing myself for the next 8 hours on the range :)
@tonybarber420
@tonybarber420 8 ай бұрын
But can a player be a blend of both? Or does this explain why im getting some weird ugly misses as a vertical mover with faster face rotation evolving into a body driven rotation player incorporating your guys elite knowledge??? (Im ok with becoming more rotational player, i want that)
@JokeZ1337
@JokeZ1337 8 ай бұрын
You can definitely change your pattern, but it takes time and good repetition. And everytime you're slightly out of position in the swing your body tries to save the shot the way it knows best to. That's when mismatches in the swing and ugly misses can happen :D Old habits die hard, so just keep at it. At the same time manage your expectations. If you've been a strong vertical mover for years then you probably won't ever be opening your body like a Min Woo Lee and you won't have to because that is not YOUR primary power source 👍
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Would agree with this fully 🙏 thanks for chiming in
@user-pf3xc8ms9l
@user-pf3xc8ms9l Ай бұрын
In this video and hand action video, you put emphasis on trail hand action(extension and supination). I understand its importance(seeking ground action), but what is the difference between trail hand action and lead hand action(ulnar deviation with flexion)? Does lead hand action cause higher rotational chance of club face(I guess)?😂
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools Ай бұрын
No difference, the hands are connected - what you do with one hand effects the other. Most people feel things in their trail hand 👍
@user-pf3xc8ms9l
@user-pf3xc8ms9l Ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools i waited your answer so much. You are my hero!
@MrLsaylor
@MrLsaylor 8 ай бұрын
i would think a low rate of rotation is easier on your back? Am I assuming incorrectly?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
No, you are correct 🙏
@ChrisP834
@ChrisP834 8 ай бұрын
Why don’t we use both releases depending on the shot?
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
Very difficult to do consistently 🙏
@MrMikeRodriguez
@MrMikeRodriguez 6 ай бұрын
You often mention short players as being “less massive”. What about short players that are bulky/thick? It’s my body style. One thing I struggle with is having room for my shorter bulky arms and my bigger chest (mostly muscular).
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 6 ай бұрын
You’re one of our favorite body styles! Turn and burn… koepka, Westwood style guys… hit it like you’d swing a sledgehammer and have fun sending thumpers !! 🚀
@MrMikeRodriguez
@MrMikeRodriguez 6 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools Interesting. I agree both of them are muscular/bulky. I think they are both taller though. Perhaps that doesn't matter much. Koepka is an interesting one because I feel like he swings more vertically and "stands up" more with less rotation?
@JonathanLopez-pk7iz
@JonathanLopez-pk7iz 8 ай бұрын
Just to confirm: were you guys inferring that the more face rotation type release could be more detrimental to your body’s health than the less face rotation/more body rotation release? Asking from a guy with limited hip mobility and tendency for low-back pain…
@VoodooZ
@VoodooZ 8 ай бұрын
I believe so as they covered this in previous videos: The high roll releasers tend to have more lumbar side-bending vs what they preach (T-spine side-bend). But I'm sure there's exceptions of course.. But I've experienced this personally as I had a lot of back problems as a fast hip rotator with crazy lumbar side-bend as a side-effect... I'm getting better slowly.. And haven't had a back "outage" in a while. so Worth looking into..
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 8 ай бұрын
It’s not necessarily the release that causes the back pain, but the body moves that generally correspond with that. And yes, not great as far as health is concerned 🙏
@VoodooZ
@VoodooZ 8 ай бұрын
@@elitegolfschools agreed. I realised my mistake afterwards.. cause and effect.. I started losing my good swing from this summer so I had to rewatch a couple of your key videos to get back on track.. Thanks for all you do..
@paulwhite6367
@paulwhite6367 4 ай бұрын
If I could sub 10 times I would 😂
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 4 ай бұрын
Haha, appreciate it bro
@bingliu6171
@bingliu6171 3 ай бұрын
Too much theory. Maybe better for pros, but not most recruiting golfers
@elitegolfschools
@elitegolfschools 3 ай бұрын
Hit em well 🙏❤️
@williamanderson1986
@williamanderson1986 28 күн бұрын
@blingliu6171 could probably get a lesson to learn how to hit the ball in the air instead of bad mouthing elitegolfing for being too complex.
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