Road Trip to the Black Hills - Cargo trailer camping

We finally escaped the Montana chill and headed SE to the Black Hills of South Dakota in search of the perfect boondocking campsite. We're testing out a new style receiver hitch from Citymons and will be reporting on that soon, but I show it in this video. Is there pie in this video? You bet!!!
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[@TM-ev2tc]

That River is kind of like Mark Twain said the Missouri River was "It's too thick to drink, and it's too thin to plow"

[@jodyseaman1885]

Love that area. Drove thru Custer State Park to see the Buffalo.

[@janpiper3068]

I love thoes state atlases. I'am a map geek. And Im a good nag-a-vater, when my husband was alive I could always get us where we were going because I wes a good navagater

[@ralphp3057]

That’s funny! nag a vator!! 😁👍

[@boscodog4358]

Where do you get "State Altas ' maps?

[@janpiper3068]

I get the "State Atlases & Gazetteer" at Walmart and Sam's club. I have about 8 or 9 different states. They were about $15.00 each, but I think they are worth it.

[@Erica_Brenda]

Yes, my father had lens replacement surgery, and the first thing he noticed was the vividness of colors. He was astonished by the beauty of the world; even the paint on his home's walls, which he believed to be light brown, turned out to be bright white. I hope Linda is also enjoying these newfound differences. The process for my father was lengthy. After the lens replacement, he underwent laser surgery for an eye pressure issues. It's been six months now, as the appointments are quite spread out, and they operate on only one eye at a time. He has one more surgery to go.

[@laurienelson5200]

Glad to see you in my neck of the woods! If you are 30 or 40 miles north of Custer Sd ...you are in the Black Hills National Forest...😊

[@ScottHenion]

Glad to see you on the road again. I think you need a bumper sticker: "I brake for pie!"

[@RV_Tips_Tricks_Travel]

So glad to see you two out on the road again. Glad Linda's eye surgery came out good. We have been praying about it. Stay safe, eat some pie for us.

[@gonagain]

We did! Thanks for the prayers, appreciate it. Blessings to you!

[@williamwhite1596]

Keep an eye out for gold in casual gold prospecting ! Ha. God Bless !!!

[@MOTrav]

Nice anti-rattle hitch! Do you ever leave your trailer parked while out exploring in your vehicle? If so, you might comment on what to do or not to do! Glad you keep scouting out more pie places. Enjoy! 😎

[@scottstevens6380]

Thank you.

[@WilliamWebber-wn3zu]

Good morning 🌞

[@arthurbach9016]

a little restaurant in Ruskin.Florida called the coffee cup. Made some of the best homemade pies this side of heaven

[@gonagain]

Hmmmm. Florida, eh...

[@explorer867]

Hi Rick and Linda, So glad to hear that Linda's eye surgeries went well. The trailer hitch looks like something I will look into. Looking forward to your review. You mentioned Miles City in your video. Brings back memories as I interviewed for a job with Montana Fish Wildlife and Parks in Miles City some years ago.🤠 0:08

[@gonagain]

Hello Rob and Helen! We're happy to be on the road again, that's for sure. The hitch is holding up great.

[@explorer867]

Rick, about how many towing miles on the hitch so far.

[@gonagain]

Just over 1200 with some rough roads in there.

[@rogertemple7193]

I really enjoy the beautiful scenery and countryside of the Northern areas of the US where you are and the Black Hills of South Dakota are very beautiful and magnificent. I also like hearing your tips and other information about traveling around the country camping out and I pray that you have a wonderful travel bless you and thank you Rick and Linda.🇺🇲🏕🏞🏜🏕🇺🇲

[@gonagain]

Thank you for watching, we appreciate you sticking with us.

[@JamestheBartholemeu]

Goodyear wrangler AT's are a pretty darn good tire. I had some on a 2 wheel drive pickup years ago. They never let me down. I used them for general purpose.

[@cargotrailerkenny]

The part that struck a chord with me during this video is you talking about showing up a campsites in the dark and having to cook in the dark. I also learned a long time ago to get an early start on moving days and I'm even more worried than you about beginning my search by two or three in the afternoon when I start going down dirt roads to find a spot. There's enough other things that can go wrong traveling around a lot like this without having to worry about not having a campsite by dark. I understand also in the winter when it gets dark early it's sometimes hard to be cooking before it's dark but I don't like having my meals after 5:00pm or 6:00pm at the latest and I don't like cooking in the dark or setting up my camp in the dark. It's just a simple way of hedging ones bets in order to have an enjoyable and relaxing time camping regularly in nature. To throw kids in the mix and put them through that is another level completely I appreciate your concern and I also could not watch that kind of thing for very many times in a row.

[@freeandhappy8562]

Glad to see y'all back out on the road again! Linda's improved vision is excellent news! Gorgeous camp sites as always. LOVED the Purple Pie Place! Thanks for taking us along!

[@SonyaBayham]

Great video, passing on valuable information about your chosen lifestyle and the equipment to deliver you both safe to beautiful camps. I appreciate the frugal style of traveling you'll have. ❤

[@pureblood2020]

Beautiful part of the country. I was there 2 years ago on two wheels. Cowboy camped in the bad lands, hammock camped in Custer state park with the Buffalo.

[@gonagain]

Very cool!

[@pureblood2020]

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[@earndoggy]

We went through the Black Hills on our honeymoon on the way from Iowa to Alaska with our four cats. Loved it! Always had camp sites picked out and were there long before dark.

[@malindawray8769]

Beautiful place

[@jr2no160]

Thanks for the reminder of the Purple Pie Place. Been a few years since we've been there. No excuses since we only live 30 minutes away from the place.

[@drush406]

Happy Mothers Day Linda, good to "See" y'all! I love this place! Safe Travels friends!

[@marvinsmith1393]

KZbin Rock Stars! So very true. Thank you.

[@jdedmnds1]

When you are younger and have limited time off, you have to plan and follow the plan. The farther you want to go, the more in a hurry you are. I remember them days. My wife and I went out west way back when, and if she hadn't won over a hundred dollars in Vegas, we would have run out of gas money before we got home. When gas was less than $2 a gallon.

[@dennislesh2374]

Muddy water doesn't affect the fishing......I caught one of the biggest trout I ever caught in a little stream that was so muddy you couldn't see the bottom. I see Linda is doing just fine on her broken ankle.

[@gonagain]

Thank you, I am doing great on that broken ankle. . It's as good as its ever going to be which is almost back to normal. I'll take it!

[@1954shadow]

Jeepers, glad Linda got an upgrade on her, peepers!

[@Go4Corvette]

Good to hear that everything went well for Linda. I am much happier with my RV van and no longer towing, which makes it much easier for me. This is the right time of year to get out on the road and have some fun. I will be at the next big tent show in Quartzsite, AZ, and camping there for a few months. Thanks for the tour and have a great time.

[@clarkleakins879]

When I have selected a definite campground destination, I usually leave at O-dark thirty, try to arrive about 9am. I have found that most folks break camp/leave for their next destination between 9am and 11am. Watch folks pack up/leave then pounce on the campsite. Also, late evening arrival cooking, light draws bugs to the camp table food. And a few times, I have seen bears stroll into others cooking/clean up after 9pm. Although beer and cigars around the campfire seem to deter them from our site. HAHAHA! Early dinner and done by 6pm (summer) allows ample time for evening fishing, especially good fly fishing. Then clean and ice the fish for next morning breakfast!

[@GypsyJvan]

glad u both are doing good..thanks rick n linda..

[@patland1762]

It's like a whole new world after the surgery!

[@JamesAnderson-v3x]

Hi Guys I live in Livingston Mt. I love watching your videos of Montana thank you

[@gonagain]

Awesome! Thank you!

[@galardmills5306]

Love your Aurora Borealis pictures! And it sounds as though the weather was warm enough for you to sit outside for a few hours and enjoy the show.

[@gonagain]

It was the first warm night we had since starting out.

[@robinwillson7838]

Gosh we enjoy you kids. We have a soft spot for South Dakota (we live in Upstate PA/NY border now). You should go by Crazy Horse and see how far they've come! You're our kind of people. Thanks so much for sharing your journeys and opinions on products.

[@abeautifullife5303]

Hello! Yes. The beautiful Black Hills!

[@VincenzoDeMarco-k3w]

Hi. Rick & Linda, Good Morning to Ya. I love walking in the woods same as you. Never know where I'm going, just keep on exploring. My father had the love of camping and traveling and that is how I got bitten by the bug. For me, there is Nothing Better than setting up camp, then start to hike n explore and even if it's in a familiar place just do it again. I guess I'm a Simpleton at heart. Watching your channel makes me feel at home, and makes me feel I'm right there with Y'all. Nothing Better. Thank You, Rick & Linda. God Bless. Vincenzo here.

[@gonagain]

As always, thanks for coming along on our adventures.

[@wrxs1781]

I enjoyed this video and beautiful countryside. They have good forest management practice's also.

[@terrell48]

Looks like a hamburger patty Linda is cooking with onions, we buy some pre-cooked burger patties from Sams Club that are really good and my wife defrosts them in the microwave and then heats them up in the skillet even though instructions says heat in microwave, these might be a good choice when you're traveling as are quick to cook, we also buy them from our Grocer, HEB Grocery, they have their store brand also pre fully cooked and are really good to we can buy 2,3 or 4 oz patties , we get the 4 oz and she makes them like Linda is with onions and then makes a gravy and once gravy is ready outs the already caramelized and heated patties back in the gravy to simmer together and with a potato makes a great meal

[@gonagain]

Now you're making me hungry!

[@paulhunter546]

Hey Rick..it depends on whether I'm traveling or spending time in a specific area. If traveling..I'll usually have an idea of where I want to be the next day. I'll also have back up plans in case that doesn't work out..a good example is if you're planning on a rest area and some are closed. Happened to me in California..there were no rest areas open for over 100 miles and then the one that was open had no room. That pie looked amazing ! 😁😋👍

[@gonagain]

The pies were amazing! Thanks for the tip, Paul.

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

Like# 47 - Wait, what? Checking the description for that hitch, but I would need 8k/lbs - update, they have a 10k/lbs version! Backed it! Thx Rick & Linda

[@gonagain]

The review on the hitch is coming out on Monday, 5/20

[@cotter9751]

Even the not perfect place looks pretty good in the video :) Still loving your content and always happily surprised by how much I learn. Your videography in this episode is noteworthy! Especially enjoyed the scenes that seemed to be drone footage, from behind, of you and Linda walking over different terrain. Thanks!

[@gonagain]

Thank you for watching!

[@noahmercy-mann4323]

We really enjoy that area, and love staying in the town of Custer when we visit the Black Hills. We don't camp, but we'd be boondocking almost exactly where you guys were if we had a camper. A short trip gets you to all the historical and tourist sites, and the town is sleepy and friendly. And I am a huge fan of the DeLorme Atlas & Gazeteers, but I also highly suggest the Benchmark Road & Recreation Atlas, which is available for each state. The free BLM maps available at BLM, Forestry Service, and G&F offices are another great resource. It's easy to get into areas with no cell coverage here in northern Wyoming (Big Horn Mountains are just a couple miles from me), and many of the apps don't work without them barrrrrrs on the phone, so paper maps are king. Have fun, you two, and thanks for sharing!

[@CITAP1]

Interesting smooth to rapid change in the river. Was there a burm, dam, or confluence with another river. I bet Linda's glad to have that eye business behind now. Happy Trails...

[@gonagain]

Yep, there was all of that going on. Spring melt makes for lots of flooding and muddy waters.

[@scenicdriveways6708]

Good morning Rick, Wow, that hitch is pretty slick! I like it. There is a place in Rapid City, SD called Sickies Garage, they have really good hamburgers! It's right next to Cabela's. They have one burger there called a Hangover, and it is very good! I put the B.F. Goodrich Commercial T/A tires on my truck in 2020 while in Willcox, Arizona. They're wearing great, still plenty of thread on them. And I can put 80# of air in them for towing. That pie looked great! Safe travels guys. God bless. JT

[@gonagain]

That pie was great, but I learned the bad habit of putting ice cream on a slice of cream pie and can never consider going without again.

[@scenicdriveways6708]

@@gonagain Oh, that sounds good!

[@glynnpennington2008]

Great to see you back on the road!! Glynn and Lorelei.

[@gonagain]

Us too!

[@Broncotwisterjim]

GREAT video, Guys!!! SO HAPPY to see you two back on the road!! As always, thanks for sharing with us, actual factual information based on you own personal experiences. So much content now is just an endless sales pitch about a product someone just received free in the mail. We appreciate so much how you share your experiences, good and bad with us. The pie place is definitely on our list now! Love that part of SD anyway, so there's another great reason to pass through. We drive an '02 F250 and like yours, my original '02 remote still works like a charm! Don't make 'em like they used to, huh?! Be safe and ENJOY your trip! We are excited to be riding along! Jim & Karen

[@gonagain]

Thanks for coming g along! Appreciate y'all.

[@deeanderson5670]

Glad to see you both out and about. It's about time for pie. Try hot coffee and dunk oreo cookies it your cup. Yum. Travel safe.

[@gonagain]

Oh, don't start us on that! Oreos are the best and coupled with coffee? Oh wow. Thanks, Dee!

[@mariaperham1851]

Y’all are so cute! Thanks for your information on this channel. We are retired, also go where we want to go. We have found that staying in or near small towns, that they are filled with oodles of obscure history. Lots of places to eat pie. lol! Love Steve’s shirt! Agree about not setting up after dark. Not fun.

[@stevec2665]

Thanks, I had that shirt made and call it my retirement shirt.

[@billmitchell7731]

Like number 794. Hi Rick and Linda.Please save some pie for me😂

[@gonagain]

Hi Bill! Come and have a piece with us!

[@billangelo2190]

Good to hear all worked out well for Linda. Safe travels

[@gonagain]

Thanks 👍

[@patrisha573]

❤Happy Camping Wonderful, Much love

[@gonagain]

Same to you!

[@milesbliss3256]

Nice video Rick and Linda be safe and travel onward ❤

[@martykong3592]

:) WoooHooooooooooo! Great share and KUDOS to Linda for getting eyes done :) and PIE? Yummm ! What more can we ask for ? On the tires, thanks Rick for sharing, as we DO mostly drive on asphalt, I was thinking the Falken Wild Peaks, but they too might be too noisy. ALL the BEST and safe travels! Cheers from SOGGY PNWest ! !

[@russell3380]

Good to see you guys back out, beautiful places, busy river and bonus hail, lol. I've been tire shopping, maybe getting pie would help. Congratulations Linda. Safe travels.

[@gonagain]

Pie always helps any situation, go have a slice!

[@tangobravo8889]

Just watched this again, you’re killing me! Purple Pie, looks like I may be headed out on a two day trip, its only a six hour jaunt😊🥧

[@gonagain]

Pies are worth the miles!

[@jeffsale9008]

I currently have BF Goodrich Trail Terrains on my Tahoe and like them. They are designed to run 90% on asphalt and 10% offroad. They are pretty quiet but we'll see how they do in the snow as I recently moved to Utah 😊. Thanks for the Purple Pie House tip we were there in July.

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

I think PIE is your true North... Navigation is centered on the chocolate creme pie!

[@GraceCook-g1l]

Hope you're somewhere warm and dry bcuz Montana and Wyoming are getting another blizzard. Don't go too far south as tornadoes are a regular problem. Glad Linda's traveling again. Been a loooong winter. I use Linda's system to find my car in large parking lots. LoL

[@gonagain]

Good ol' Montana, where it doesn't stop snowing until mid July and doesn't start back up again until about the first of August!

[@deborahisrael4989]

Those folks you were talking about have 6 kids, and are from here in my neck of the woods. I am with you, I could not believe how they were traveling. Too much land to cover in a short time...

[@gonagain]

Slow down and enjoy the journey.

[@deborahisrael4989]

@@gonagain Yes, yes, indeed!!

[@cedarbay3988]

Thank you for the advice. We are taking our 13' Scamp from Montana to southern Illinois this summer to visit family. We are off grid NW Montana campers, so not used to the humidity. We have a Zero Breeze portable ac which does great cooling down the bedroom space, but not convinced how it will do in humid environments. I guess we will find out. Lol! After watching your video, we ordered a Shocker Hitch, and are anxious to try it out. It was crazy expensive. We are always towing something, so we took the leap. Also, we ordered one of those water bottle pump thingies. Hmmm?! Maybe we need to quit watching your channel because you are costing us a lot of money! Lol...Just kidding. One thing is for certain, we are not ordering that little crazy stove! Hugs to you both my fellow Montanans!

[@gonagain]

I'd like to know how the Zero Breeze works out for you guys. If you get a chance please email me with an update: [e-mail]

[@terrell48]

I had cataract surgery both eyes several years ago and after my eyesight was 20/20 and 20/15 in the two eyes but since that has changed and an about 20/25 but still no glasses except for reading they also corrected an astigmatism in my left eye

[@gonagain]

That's good to know. The eye doctor said that may happen in the future. ~Linda

[@ralphp3057]

I would be real curious about that anti rattle new style hitch ? With sand and grime getting into it ? I’ve had trouble with bicycle racks that have similar mechanisms. Wow! That river was moving really fast !!! Thanks for sharing Rick & Linda .😁👍🇺🇸

[@MAGA-kw3ol]

Watching your video in my van, unfortunately camping in Cracker Barrel tonight, but tomorrow I’m heading into New River Gorge NP in beautiful West Virginia were they actually have some free camping, looking forward to making new memories, and I always get to a site before dark, I learned that a long time ago

[@gonagain]

Cracker Barrel camping has saved us a few times. Sounds like a beautiful area you're headed to.

[@Go4Corvette]

That is a very good tire, and they go a long way. My 2018 Chevy Colorado crewcab 4x4 had them, and when I sold it they had 60K and were still good. I did a lot of camping with that truck and pulled a trailer. When I cook if it doesn't come in a can it's no good. 🤣I love those large map books. I don't remember if you have ever tested one but have you ever tried those little 12V swamp coolers for cooling a small space? It was all we had when I was a kid in my parent's house in North Hollywood, CA, and they work well in the dry climate. That pie looks great.

[@bryanschwertner3585]

I ran KO2s for 55,000 miles on my 2013 Z71. Yes, about 1mpg less. I replaced them with Michelin ATs. Way smoother but traded at about 12,000 so no idea how long they last. Like you I grew tired of the noise and rough ride and always slightly out of balance characteristics of the KO2s. Also I think I will go Endurance tires on my Jayco Hummingbird this time. I think the Goodyear ATS it came with is all marketing.

[@ralphp3057]

I looked closely into that endohitch . Built same principle as Yakima bicycle hitch mount years ago with locking mechanism. Mine failed after one year of use ! Cam lock seized up inside hitch . What a pain to get off vehicle!!! 😬😬

[@dianaj3139]

I am always interested in getting a nice Tire that does well on Ice and also is a bit smoother, quieter, Two years ago I bought a Michelin ICE/Snow tire I have NOT removed them in two years which means I also drive in Summertime here in Oregon... My Infinity is an 8 Cylinder, 20 year old SUV... Gets around 16 MPG most of the time, I can also Tow with this rig, but haven't done it yet, but I am thinking it looks fun after watching all of your videos! Enjoying all these adventures ... Finding Mushrooms is always a great treat!! Happy to hear about Linda's success... I am hoping to get that surgery in a few years my doc says for my situation glasses do not help but surgery might give me crisper images.... I plan on getting it done in Mexico where great success and less expensive prices are good. THANK YOU for all you share here, gets me thinking about a lot of things differently!

[@gonagain]

We appreciate you watching and are glad that you can get something out of our videos. The tires we currently have aren't that great in mud, but do ok otherwise. I didn't realize that the Infinity ever came with an 8! Not bad!

[@dianaj3139]

@@gonagain Yes, apparently its rare to have a V-8 because everytime I take it for service I get comments from the mechanics. :)

[@doingitwithnothing]

We just got back from our trip (Ak Ok Tx La) the weather wasn’t kind to us on this trip for the last month but back at the farm in sw Mississippi thru June

[@gonagain]

The weather hasn't been nice to us since before winter. Glad you're back safe and sound.

[@astrobob9432]

I always visit the purple pie house!

[@gonagain]

Great place for pie!

[@jamesjackson7752]

Here.😊

[@gonagain]

Hi!

[@flyovercounty1427]

A good pilot wants to always know whereabouts they are above the earth. I apply the same logic to land (pie directed) and water travel. I just cannot do “location oblivious” travel not even knowing which direction I’m heading unless some electric device tells me. I use GPS as a tool but do not solely rely on it.

[@bigskypylot]

I have the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss Rugged AT. They are incredibly quiet, yet, a pretty aggressive tread pattern. They are wearing quite well and have a 6yr/50K warranty and the 3peak mountain snowflake rating

[@bigskypylot]

Made in the USA as well

[@gonagain]

Good to know of other suitable tires out there. Thank you.

[@teripittman]

South Dakota is a trip I want to make. Bot sure if it will be this year or next. But in a week and a half, I'll be retired! Look out, world :)

[@gonagain]

Congrats on retirement! Now go have some adventures!

[@bobham919]

that shot of you and linda walking with the ghost man using the camera following you. @6:20

[@gonagain]

Hi Bobby! Its nice having that ghost man with us for those camera shots.

[@bobham919]

@@gonagain i see. Rick you and Linda are looking good out there. i feel as a friend i should warn you that the new labor laws will require you to pay that worker 20 bucks an hour then union fees and such. then cause this is a video you might have to pay an extra union wage for the film industry. 🤪🤪 ya'll keep save out there and watch out of them bears

[@TheTravelingWolds]

Hi Rick & Linda, We're now on the road full-time, so we're wondering about the water tester you mentioned in this video. Which one is it, please? Great video by the way 👍

[@gonagain]

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[@jessesumrall2449]

As far as the road noise you have to turn the radio up louder.

[@valeriefrench9405]

Have you had any run ins with bears?

[@gonagain]

Not on this trip but just by living in Montana, yes. Charged by a mama bear.

[@tm8747]

rick your going to find out the wrangler tires are junk, in sand or mud the tires cake up in the center treads and the outside doesnt do its job correctly, these tires are most often , stock tires from the factory, a THROW AWAY TIRE, the traveling you do needs a true offroad tire, i use a larger tires in size, due to the rim size 20" , but install i will always have cooper discover 2 m/s tire, these tires ALWAYS CLEAN THEMSELFS OFF AND THERES NEVER TIRE NOISE ON OR OFF THE ROADS,! i run a 305/50/20 i know its not much for the offroad due to the small side walls , but i ve never got stuck in sand, mud or any terrain out there, i swear by COOPER TIRES,

[@gonagain]

Thanks for the tip on the Coopers. We have a Cooper dealer in our town.

[@JEpps1956]

What is the name of that little water test you used? What all dose it check for ?

[@gonagain]

It's made by Kactoily and the main things that it tests for is TDS (total desolved solids) and TOC (total organic carbon) the TDS is going to be everything from minerals to chemicals and the higher is the more leary you need to be about water quality. TOC is where the bacteria will be and the accepted level is very low. The tester tells you in both color code and an actual readout of the findings. We're currently on the road and I'm using it a lot at the various faucets we refill at.

[@ednapuckett1042]

Since I’m visiting from another state, can I buy the licenses at the campground?

[@gonagain]

You can buy them after you download an app for some or you have to call on your phone for others. Checking their website before going would be wise.

[@billydaniel900]

👍

[@biglug9364]

I recently seen two separate news stories about people dying from eating morels I would be very careful if I were you

[@gonagain]

Thanks for the warning. We didnt find anymore so didn't eat the one tiny one we had.

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

Wait, what??? Morel mushrooms??? we just bought 1/2/lb of them when I was home visiting my mom for her birthday and at $95/lb... We didn't see any to pick this year!

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

really glad to hear Linda's surgery went so well!

[@taj-ma-haul9094]

what is the load rating on those tires?

[@annhysell6064]

👍😀

[@jdeso3]

Stay away from the Yellowstone ranch John Dutton does not like strangers on his land

[@doskraut]

At 15:00 where he talks about the people camping and cooking in the dark, a lot of these videos is full on fake. Well pre staged and they do it for more views, cheap rv living channel is one such person. I watched the dude park, set up record a video then left and he was less than 300 meters from the freeway.

[@jimv.661]

Since you are on Federal land all the time, you should be aware that the USFS is trying to ban all lead ammo and fishing gear on them. GOA has filed a suit and right now is also fighting the ATF New Rule which will make you a criminal if you sell a gun. Not sure you are aware of both of those. The New Rule goes into effect May 20th unless they get an injunction. If you aren't a GOA member you should be. They are the main organization fighting for our rights.

[@gonagain]

We weren't aware of the lead and fishing gear one. Geeze, are they going to remove all the lead from the ground? Ridiculous. Thanks for the news, Jim.

[@jimv.661]

@@gonagain They secured a 2-week injunction against the new rule. Not sure what that is going to do. Yes, as you know, lead is found everywhere in the soil. They are working towards a nationwide ban on lead. They hold the condor thing up as to why we should do it. What they don't say is that after 50 years, the condors still have the same lead levels in their blood. I'm pretty sure they aren't eating 50-year-old lead-shot meat.