Kamogawa vs Anderson

[@mhamieyoo]

When Kamogawa said that he could clap Hawk when he was in his prime.. there was no cap in that statement.

[@flowingwater3619]

@Speed Demos what ep

[@flowingwater3619]

What ep

[@simpleclonetrooper2740]

i really think he can do it

[@greekfreek4657]

Yah i remember that... So badass kamugawa... Badass...

[@renegadeloser4852]

Also, I think it's a homage to Mayweather-Merchant feud.

[@zyonhenderson67]

This without doubt, the most damaging punch I have ever seen in anime. The sheer force, the damage that was shown, and the sound speaks volumes. Love this scene

[@THEdudeproductions]

Is this the hardest punches thrown in the series?

[@zyonhenderson67]

@@THEdudeproductions Honestly? Yes. Cant think on anything hurting more than this

[@THEdudeproductions]

@@zyonhenderson67 I just wanted to make sure, nothing can possibly top this. This dude Kamogawa is wild. 💀

[@Grim_Bud]

@@THEdudeproductions Ippo has been teased as Kamogawa's fighting style inheritor, even though Ippo is "out" of the ring its clear he will come back and in the later chapter was shown as a freaking monster. So we might have someone who punch harder than Kamogawa himself

[@aztro.99]

this dudes never seen dragon ball z!! 🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱🥱

[@RandomBlackGamer]

RIP Utsumi Kenji (Komogawa voice actor.) This episode was made shortly after his death :(

[@kerzonmendoza6023]

Oh really. Damn 😢

[@freneticgamer4174]

Fuck. That sucks so much.

[@pexio4402]

That guy was nice for Kamogawa

[@RandomBlackGamer]

***** Yup. The voice actor for Nekota died before this episode came out too. He was the original voice of Korin from DBZ. So I guess it was dedicated to the both of them T_T

[@Fungorrr]

Oh my god nooooOOOo S4 won't be the same without him! This is like when uncle Iro/Aku died!

[@sidharthrao9005]

Kamogawa may not have been the best fighter in the series, but he was the strongest puncher no cap. That last punch, is the most powerful thing I have seen in Anime to this day. It just makes me tear up.

[@zekejeager2451]

He was called tekken.

[@brangtoggez6363]

@@MrXela9 He said " I have seen", yes, but "your opinion"??, Some people like me are gonna have to say something about that...

[@brangtoggez6363]

@@MrXela9 And he is specific, you just went up and talk about your opinion lol, it's your fault. He doesn't say all anime, he only said anime that he has seen. so even if you have watched an anime that has better punches, it doesn't really relevant to his comment, thus you are confusing us. boooooo

[@lucky6961]

@@MrXela9 the fact that it seems real is what makes it powerful, look at characters like saitama, he is awfully strong and a punch of his open the heavens in front of him, but the fact that Kamogawa's punch can in fact happen is what makes it so terrifying, not some random anime friendship power

[@swoluigi3828]

kamogawa would probably no diff everyone i've seen so far in the anime, he won against someone way above his way class

[@mragonious5001]

Man the voice actor for Kamogawa really nailed it at the "Don't pass out!" moment. It just sounds so fucking believable it gives me the chills.

[@MadDadLad]

Fun fact. That's Mamoru Miyano, the same guy that voiced Light Yagami from Death Note and Shuu Tsukiyama from Tokyo Ghoul! I couldn't believe it was him at first!

[@mragonious5001]

That's the guy voicing Light? I should've guessed. It's been too long since I've watched Death Note dammit

[@hit9819]

+Derek Collins HOLY SHIT!! I rewatched Tokyo ghoul a week ago and now I can actually hear the voice 😭😭 Kamogawa: ATTAAAAAACK Shuu: KANEEEEEEEEKI Wow that's amazing

[@TheBounce559]

+MrAgonious that's why i prefer the japanese language with the subtitles

[@GnayDrawoh]

+MrAgonious And he also voiced Okabe from steins gate. "I'm Mad Scientist. It's so coool! Sunovabich!"

[@randomperson-cq6lb]

This is the thousand time I watch it actually never bored of it

[@BoldMold]

Same. I always come back to watch this scene. It's so goddamn intense.

[@metassuwanavanit9916]

random person can you tell me who’s the strongest of these guys (Ippo, Kamogawa, Takamura)

[@ocaneww]

Devil boy Takamura

[@migovas1483]

@@metassuwanavanit9916 Takamura is by the default the one Above them all

[@metassuwanavanit9916]

Migo Vas ok thx for the reply

[@TheMessiahofGamesMJDevilDog]

"There's no punch? Why's there no punch?!?" *_TACTICAL NUKE!! INCOMING!!!!!_*

[@MrJostur]

Russian: *"AC-130: ABOVE!!!"*

[@VinsmokeBT98]

You know ure a diehard mw2 fan when u hear it as it is in the game xD

[@jodah_eternal]

Look America dropped the sun on them twice so two soul destroying punches seem more then fair

[@appaontheinternet9796]

@@jodah_eternal *FACTS*

[@tommyortega3997]

@@jodah_eternal lmao

[@TheParZval]

The fact this boxing match/ side movie was made long ago and had one of the best animations. The sakuga/ impact frames were so impressive. I can really feel the writers passion for animating this masterpiece. Both the movie and series

[@muninrob]

If you pay attention watching the series, you'll catch the author's self insert as he becomes a manga artist, and then becomes a boxing manga artist.

[@holypredator]

when Kamogawa said he could have take on hawk when if he was younger.... HE AIN'T SHITTING....

[@masaz2770]

If Hawk thought Takamura put fear in him, imagine what a punch from Kamogawa in his prime would have done...

[@adikkuchan]

Masaz Bruh, Hawk wouldn't even be mentally broken. He'd be physically broken too. Eagle : ,,,or is it, that you are afraid of Kamogawa Genji? I CAN TOTALLY SEE IT! :D

[@patrickdreyar5306]

Yaya he cant really take hawk and u can even add ippo and hawk hahahaha they wony beat the old man

[@adikkuchan]

All it takes is a clear shot at their body, then let the Tekken do everything else

[@itswa30]

Komeiji Raizen he wouldnt even be able to think mentally

[@OurDarkGoldenHero]

Forget his ribcage; that guy's entire soul broke.

[@Savage1351]

It's Smash Time Omg I think i've never laughed that hard at a comment !

[@TrueAnimeSoul]

LMFAOOO

[@filmwoodmedia]

His pride must be fucked too

[@howling_thunder9674]

It's Smash Time LMAO, this scene makes my soul cringe every time I see it!!!

[@fil2662]

SENZU BEAN

[@xospot6823]

“No punch? Whys there no punch!” Top ten words before death

[@Numba-3]

That's was good xDDDDD

[@kuyajosh5016]

Yeaahhh

[@hellboy1047]

ahahah

[@HeroDai2448]

he killed his soul with that punch

[@imhappy._.]

There is no way that dude survived after this fight. Dudes got broken ribs and punctured organs lmao. The way he slammed onto the canvas when he fell was brutal.

[@Cargobrrr_03]

the shear passion of kamogawa is insane , that blow to his liver , his lungs , his ribs shattered in to millions of pieces and also every other organ shaking around is truly an iron fist

[@tripelon]

The sound designer was a genius

[@kylefields3951]

tripelon Oh hell yeah, the anime benefits greatly from the fantastic sounds they imbue the punches and footwork with.

[@snowypringles3393]

Yeah, the sound of metal scraping while Kamogawa uses his Tekken (Iron Fist) is a smart combination

[@alphaqhard121]

When you think about it, Kamogawa really was an absolute monster... He just punched a man who is not only several weight classes above him but also could potentially be very close to the world champion level of his own weight class. He only had to punch him twice (with broken fists mind you) to completely destroy him.... Such a goddamn powerhouse this man was holy shit

[@Geheimnis-c2e]

That and Nekota literally danced around said world champ-class fighter How awesome would it be to have some scifi bullshit to bring both Nekota and Kamogawa to the present and spar with Ippo and co.

[@taiko7126]

@@Geheimnis-c2e more like a ippo and the others getting send back to past

[@tlmob4172]

@@taiko7126 But that wouldnt matter bc kamogawa reached his peak here and stopped bc it broke his hands

[@taiko7126]

@@tlmob4172 be flexible, they could just go back in time before that fight happen

[@tlmob4172]

@@taiko7126 kamogawa wouldnt be in his peak before

[@GlyntTheCat]

Anderson: Hey we dropped two bombs here and.. Kamogawa: I know, you can have them back.

[@morganbrown8538]

GlyntTheCat If he’d said that...🤯

[@wifi1057]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@xgeo3586]

Oh right b.c america is always a bad guy in japanese culture lol jerks and fools XD Btw You forgot the image of flame throwers too. Lol

[@seunglee6990]

Darkshooter108 you people make the most racist jokes so I don’t need to hear shit from you

[@williamgibson3862]

@@seunglee6990 This is sadly true can't even defend that one.

[@XennaShieldOP-pu6le]

Hajime No Ippo is without a doubt a 10/10 anime masterpiece.

[@trythis2006]

everyone should watch it, even if you dont like sports, its just that amazing

[@JustAsh001]

​@@trythis2006I just casually started watching the show without thinking but damn the show got me hooked on first 1 - 2 episodes and became my fav anime its peak no doubt

[@WILLIAMWASBORED]

For boxing it is but normal anime is like 9

[@Pppp-zi7ex]

​@@WILLIAMWASBOREDidiot

[@muwafaqmosa5303]

It's a life changing anime.

[@rubbish6980]

0:17 that’s voice acting at it’s finest.

[@thefinaltrinity1904]

🤣

[@kanghyuk3988]

Thank you for the replay button

[@Art_CommissionPH]

Yeah, japanese voice actors are very creative

[@RagnaCloud13]

that's Mamoru Miyano for you

[@Christian-sv2ji]

yeah. that was freaking good

[@terla2971]

That moment when you realise that the funny coach is maybe the strongest boxer who ever lived.

[@ZeRoyalReaper]

Only to be succeeded by his trainee IPPO

[@rebelpoxy]

Juan garcia *Takamura

[@adikkuchan]

***** Nah. Ippo received the baton pass from Kamogawa. Takamura is already a genius in his own right like the coach said.

[@rebelpoxy]

Ismail Abd Khalil I meant as the strongest boxer. And the first one to achieve Kamogawa's goal of a world champion boxer. Obviously, Takamura already has all those, so it is Ippo's turn now.

[@adikkuchan]

***** Ah, I see. Well, it'll take some time before Ippo can become the World Champion. First thing's first, he's gotta make a comeback after that recent loss.

[@MrDiabloman123]

That moment when Kamogawa's punches sent Anderson's ribs to the shadow realm

[@harpseal9234]

Diabloman32 *HE CROSSED THIS* *N*GGA INTO THE* *SHADOW REALM!!!*

[@glim9879]

HARP SEAL that moment when you realize that the shadow realm is not canon.

[@_Sage967_]

@@glim9879 DIS NIGGA'S RIBS WERE RETCONED OUT OF EXISTENCE!!!!!

[@ousou78]

Even the God's hands were chocked.

[@PSC4.1]

Diabloman32 LMAO FR

[@theolebrave1713]

kamogawa has always been one of my favourite characters and this scene.... his determination and rage just... incredible. also shout out to the absolutely perfect va's in this show and especially in this scene, the way this clip is voiced is so incredible

[@alstoyle]

I love it how in the mangaprobably my favorite part of the entire series is when itagaki told kamogawa that ippo was driving logs in the side of the hill and he immediately shot up and said "IS HE DOING IT WITH HIS FISTS!!" and itagaki was like "no he had a hammer, only the worlds stupidest person would ever try and do something like that with your fist"

[@richie6884]

Yo what chapter is that?

[@alstoyle]

@@richie6884 574

[@juliuscarlopoblete2092]

dang, great attention to detail... 👍👍👍

[@FatherPun]

That also shows you how well Kamogawa knows ippo, he knows for SURE ippo would do it if he felt so obligated lol

[@saurabhjadhav3998]

Yes, I saw that but later after kamogawa visit the hill, he realizes that ippo has nailed multiple logs in the hill.

[@Lakanus]

1:41 That punch was so strong my computer screen cracked and my glasses broke

[@dankymemerson237]

Top Waifu Oh fuck it's Lakanus. Get back to Irithyll DS3 needs you.

[@SanjuSingh]

Lakanus At least your corneas r still Intact.

[@batmite6857]

Lakanus the punch is so strong he breaks the glove out of his right hand leaving a fist mark... LOL

[@daryll3493]

He literally break the fourth wall 😅

[@choultizecttempest5729]

Lakanus on shit

[@LOL-gn5oh]

This high pitched metallic sound from Kamogawa's punch gives me shivers.

[@benl.4577]

It's the iron fists

[@NKInfernal]

The iron fists

[@undeadban2119]

At this point it should be called destroyers fist

[@maxsuki75]

Fun fact: the trainer of Anderson is Miguel Zale who eventually went on to coach Bryan Hawk. So funnily enough the Takamura Hawk fight was actually Miguel Zale's second encounter with Kamogawa in boxing. I completely missed this when watching the anime somehow, only just realised it now that I'm at this point in the manga

[@fldsmdfr9107]

He was also wally's trainer who was defeated by ippo

[@robertbernard7844]

@@fldsmdfr9107 Man, even decades after the fact, Miguel just can't catch a break.

[@kazuhirokawamoto7213]

@@robertbernard7844 yup and in the Manga he is about to witness Wally get murdered by Ricardo

[@WanderingMind_]

@@kazuhirokawamoto7213 Or is he?

[@kazuhirokawamoto7213]

@@WanderingMind_ damn good question.

[@picvajzpikcers]

How to end two careers in one punch.

[@C999SP]

Couldn't have said it better myself

[@picvajzpikcers]

Thank you. When I first watched it I thought Kamogawa killed Anderson and spent 20 years in prison before becoming a coach.

[@kikook222]

+ПичвајзПикчерс It's perfectly legal to kill someone in a boxing ring as long as the boxing match is sanctioned and the blows that lead to the person's demise are legal blows.

[@KayDizzelVids]

+ПичвајзПикчерс Technically two punches.

[@waross8214]

+ПичвајзПикчерс and 1 life

[@DatEraa]

0:48 to 1:07 is pure art. The animation, emotion, dialogue, and even the ost cutting out so you hear nothing but that body shot all blended together beautifully.

[@ThaddeusSilva]

Thats what i just realized, what makes this fight so intense and absolutely raw compared to previous ones, no music what so ever. Pure emotion, and it works so well, it has such a different atmosphere and i always wondered why

[@ameeed9084]

@@ThaddeusSilva the director for those two episodes was the same man who made season 1!

[@cattkin6732]

1:36 is even better...

[@gilfordjyrexvillanueva488]

nope it was 0:00 to 2:12

[@_shiraori_614]

That's MAPPA for ya

[@BzaafiedTheYatagarasu]

Dang, put Kamogawa as DLC in Mortal Kombat X, he already has his own X-Ray move.

[@RazorWolfy512]

LOL THIS IS GREAT

[@SahinOzgurx]

***** Hi, which episode that?

[@RazorWolfy512]

CasanovA the amv is from the last 3 episodes of Hajime No Ippo: Rising

[@SahinOzgurx]

***** ty bro

[@Patkillskenny]

***** the vid is not an amv, that's the last ep and it's shown just like the clip.

[@CuitoFlo]

1:40 the best fucking sound i've ever heard

[@bloodyidit4506]

Hitting a guy so hard that he fucking goes midair horizontal is enough to break not just your hands, but could even cause tears in ligaments in your shoulder and back from the pure burst power. Considering Kamogawa's height and overall body structure he could realistically, MAYBE do this at absolute peak condition, not just in arms, but in his legs and back and stomach, the full body works and he'd have to be fucking high off his ass on his own adrenaline. Kamogawa's training couldn't be done in the time that was shown, in that amount of time, which is acceptable for plot reasons. But this? It's possible even factoring in his opponent's weight. And the blows that Kamogawa made to crush this guy would certainly break his hands at least. At peak adrenaline, you can't even feel the pain outside of a bare feeling something's off. But an entire hand getting broken? Not sure, and not going to test it, but I can see it. Just imagine, being such an asshole that a guy decides to train so hard to break you in half in two punches. And you pissed him off so much that he's willing to break HIMSELF just to utterly destroy you. This is why it's a good idea to be polite, folks.

[@Niyaz_]

his hand broke because he was punching a log into a hill bare handed before the fight

[@PigreKo]

As Niyaz said, K was compromised by his training, which one could argue almost made him lose from all the strain he put on his muscles and bones.

[@priyanshugoel3030]

How long can an adrenaline rush last.

[@Niyaz_]

@@priyanshugoel3030 depends on the situation

[@priyanshugoel3030]

@@Niyaz_ give examples. Thanks for replying.

[@Bowfella]

Anderson: I can take it Kamogawa: I'm about to end this mans whole career Kamogawa's broken hands: I'm about to end this mans whole career.

[@TheSaltBoiCometh]

mihajlo525 everyone’s career was ended

[@randomperson-cq6lb]

Double ending

[@Khatrin_Roi]

Im yo 666th like m8

[@avtandiliorjonikidze4994]

3 careers ended andersons career, kamogavas career and also his mighty iron fists of god knows what he called them if they had names

[@acethechicken2553]

Do you mean life?

[@hamelinrats8388]

Anderdon: ENDURE!! Kamogawa: Sure bro

[@jaysontan8094]

Anderson: ENDURE IT! Kamogawa: Endure it while your still alive!

[@Purelocov12]

+Agustin Milan Hajime no ippo one of my best anime it tops DBZ for me XD

[@BastoGhost]

+Pure AE Ippo is my best anime too ^^

[@joshuahwang1520]

Kamogawa asked him "This can be the easy way or the haarrrrrddd way. The choice is yours". Anderson: "ENDURE!!!"

[@OneArmedGorilla]

i cant stop lauighing XD

[@dawsonlandar7038]

Kamogawa's roar as he goes for that second punch hypes me up so much bro especially seeing the outcome of that punch

[@spectraphantom777]

Anderson: This is gonna hurt like hell isn't it? Kamogawa: Pfft nah, only if you survive.

[@BasedMilitarist6624]

Did he survive?

[@BasedMilitarist6624]

@@BigBroGlover should i re-veoice that? From that vine ya'know?

[@BigBroGlover]

@@BasedMilitarist6624 Yeah you should. That vine is legendary😂😂

[@kamikaze4172]

He just needs some milk

[@el_tada9372]

​@@BasedMilitarist6624nop, he dies after this battle

[@アリ-o7m]

本当にカッコ良すぎる。 作画も声優さんの演技も音も演出も本当に素晴らしい。 それ以上言葉もない。

[@ObscureJester]

Yuki: Genji, I'm hungry, what are we having tonight? Kamogawa: ribs.

[@kjdaman2151]

ObscureJester you got my like 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭😭I’m dying

[@glenneillibo-on2293]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@kamikaze4172]

*anime surprised noise intensifies*

[@OMartinez91]

He's gonna need healing though

[@Numba-3]

XDDDD

[@youngchicken24]

a part that stood out to me is when anderson said "endure" at 0:54. its just so cool to see how fear inducing kamogawas punch is.

[@0doublezero0]

1:40 Kamogawa: "With this punch, I brand you my bitch."

[@0doublezero0]

Damn, I forgot I made this comment. lol

[@ashcrash8367]

@@0doublezero0 woah how does it feel like to see your 8 year old comment lol

[@sahirjofre3028]

This comment made my night, thanks man.

[@nowthatsedgyasfvck2556]

Based af honestly

[@kenalexanderhallchalen1072]

​@@0doublezero0fue un gran comentario aunque lo vea 9 años después

[@leojones7440]

manliest man ever, 'if my bones shatter they where never up to the task to begin with' - 'my left fist is dead, but you no what, IVE STILL GOT ONE MORE' gotta love the mentality of kamagowa, reckless but f....ing awesome

[@Ka_Ica]

leo Jones bro the subtitles are there but you still butchered typing that

[@randomperson-cq6lb]

FUCKING AWESOME. YOU MEAN

[@XCris69]

@@Ka_Ica Bro, writing from memory is a thing.

[@TheOverdriver1]

Fun Fact: Kamogawa only landed those two clean shots in the entire match lol

[@maribelpaz1399]

And that was enough...

[@johnchristian8685]

Imagine hitting him in the head. Would probably got a permanent damage

[@Noodles4Lyfeee]

@Gutsu would probably crush the skull

[@pc_screen5478]

@@johnchristian8685 what he did is already permanent, Anderson probably never came back from those fractures to his ribs and organs

[@Stylar777]

Wrong he hitted many Open shots on the body watch the full episode

[@shigokare6608]

What a cinematic masterpiece from the soundtrack, the dialog, the fucking bell sound when Kamogawa hits, then the sudden pauses in the music, I bet in "real time" if you will, this scene would only be 4 to 5 seconds to the audience watching the match but to us it was stretched to 2 minutes and even those 2 minutes felt like they lasted an eternity, just wow, I can't put it into words, definitely my top 5 scenes and episode in the series.

[@chillermrq]

Anderson: ENDURE! Kamogawa: Im about to end this mans whole endurance

[@SunnyDaking_]

Superawesome Senpai while ending his career plus his own career

[@chamblessrayburn6885]

When the punches land the sound is of a train hitting its brakes hard. So he put the brakes on him, so to speak.

[@aldrinmercado3475]

Wrong move.. it left him with 1 hp.. should have used protect

[@firrigagamer8281]

Something I realized is that there’s a distinct difference between Kamogawa’s Iron Fist and Ippo’s Iron Fist. Kamogawa didn’t just build his muscles by punching that log into the hill, he actually did partial training which hardened his fist, despite the time frame not being long enough to develop it. Ippo may have did it through a safer method but his fist isn’t harder for it, so if Kamogawa had continued partial training and allowed his fists to recover, his Iron Fist would actually be much much stronger than Ippo’s.

[@marcusj17]

Kamogawa did partial training for his fist and yes his fist is technically the same as a karateka at this point in time. However, Ippo's training has been to strengthen his lower body to be able to do the Dempsey with little to no injury - same attack, same execution, but different context and purpose for training. Kamogawa even said that with Ippo's improved power body control and strengthened wrists, it's as if his fists were hardened as well

[@cherifothmen514]

It was stated later on the Manga that ippo did punch the log as part of his training when he showed his fist

[@LightningLegend12]

With anime involving monsters with extreme power like DragonBall Z or One Piece running rampant nowadays, it is so satisfying seeing this "normal human" produce one of the most intense punches in the entire art.

[@juckoosaurus]

+LightningLegend12 this series makes boxing punches look like a bomb went off ippo's frist gazelle punch still gives me goosebumps

[@MomiVel2xBilyonaryangMini]

+juckoosaurus Dempsey roll and liver blow

[@juckoosaurus]

ThePhoenyxuzprimax have you seen the champion roaad sanada fight holy shit

[@MomiVel2xBilyonaryangMini]

juckoosaurus yiz i saw it, rib-crackin' liver blow

[@TaoPhysiques]

+LightningLegend12 If by normal, you mean sliding on a boxing ring floor producing car brakes and punches sounding like jet engines, then yeah it is pretty normal.

[@shady_since95]

This makes me think about all the unseen, non-professional fights that we don’t know about and are “you just had to be there” kind of deal Incredible

[@coolchill2357]

Ikr makes you think

[@GlyntTheCat]

Boy did I fucking drop my jaw for this scene. Amazing.

[@SirMalorak]

I was like "Okay, until now this flashback has a really cool story, let's see the fight." Welp, afterwards I had to get 3 pants and 9 towels to clean up what my...Excitement did.

[@leonidas317spartans]

SirMalorak gayyyyyyyyyyy

[@happy_introvert]

This is why Kamogawa is one of my favourite anime characters. The reason he is the way he is - living and thriving in post war Japan when they have lost everything but their will to live. Enduring hardships, risking his life to fight for what he believes and dedicating the remainder of his life to boxing. A fighter in the ring and ultimately in life. No guts no glory. What a man. What a beautiful concept.

[@viniciusvalois2634]

Just a pity that nowadays anime (and other media in general) no longer produce male characters like that. Today's world is full of scared-kitten, gutless boys with less-than-questionable masculinity.

[@blasttrash]

@EPloar Div some examples?

[@raulbetancourt5795]

@EPloar Div Some examples please?

[@MichellBollinger]

@EPloar Div you didn’t name any characters. we’re waiting

[@spinachos1868]

@EPloar Div the guy you responded to is braindead lmfao

[@DiscoSamurai]

What kind of monstrous strength did Kamogawa build to tear through his internals AND leave an indented mark of his fist, all with the damn thumb included? HOLY SHIT, GENJI! You're a monster and we love you.

[@chrono_s9699]

Dude this match was so visceral! Gives me chills even now. Easily one of the most insane fights in the series.

[@XennHD]

Berserk + this animation = perfect anime.

[@ramireini]

I know right, when they do something, why not do it right, it's like they are retarded.

[@MrHestolemyname]

The closest we will get to that is the Berserk PS4 game lol. I don't think they will bother making a high budget Berserk series unless the damn thing blows up in popularity.

[@Omegadarkdrake]

it won't happen because beserk is too adult themed and there are certain things that make it unmarketable to japanese viewers. in order to get the true uncensored and detailed story in anime form, it'd pretty much have to be an ONA series and be paid for by the fans or best case it gets picked up by amazon/netflix and they do what they did with kabeneri but hopefully much better.

[@SH4D0SKU11]

What animation? it felt like i was watching a slide show

[@holdenc5640]

Tunuper i agree with your sentiments but, its not filler, at least not entirely. They extended a few scenes to make them more substantial. Also berserk only has about 351 if i remember right. Hajime no ippo on the other hand has over 1100.

[@VaskoKasko]

One of the most amazing examples of perfect set-up for a scene, abuse of the audience's anticipation, and incredible pay-off, where the music, direction, animation and voice-acting all come together to make you suffocate yourself, all in 2 minutes. And I haven't even gotten to season 3 yet lmao

[@ireviewshtuff]

"I trained me abs hard!" Well obviously not hard enough smh

[@kikook222]

+Riga T. Not much you can do when a guy is breaking your ribs. Rocky Balboa style.

[@ZemiReborn-]

no he hit him on the ribs that part isnt trainable

[@KayDizzelVids]

+Riga T. He trained for a match with a Japanese Prize Fighter. Not a man with a sledgehammer for a punch.

[@Fungorrr]

+Riga T. Didn't train your ribs and guts though lmao

[@ericx6969]

+jessie isle abductor and adductor

[@kindoomdestin]

That last body blow could wipe out everyone in the anime

[@Fontana22]

Good thing Anderson protected his jaw, if that second punch had hit him in the jaw, hajime no ippo would turn into a gore anime.

[@johnmelvinviana8081]

His head will surely fly high into the kingdom come.

[@GM.Nobody]

Ngl, it is

[@orangesoda4535]

Pretty sure his entire jaw would fly off.

[@saparapatepete]

Anderson would be dead if he were hit in the face....or if he hadn't trained his abs......

[@gigishroom]

I know this is very "well acthucally" but in the manga Kamogawa said he wouldn't hit him in the jaw cause it was too hard and that would destroy his hand even further

[@benbenbenberobarrr]

何より宮野真守まじでやばすぎる そもそも内容もも映像もえげつなくかっこいいのに声が圧がすごすぎるから、更に3倍くらい鴨川がかっこよくなる

[@johanliebert5269]

Your ab training doesn’t matter when your opponent has the muscle strength to destroy your entire rib cage with 2 punches

[@jiroweiler5883]

Who need muscles when you have Sledghammers for arms

[@jonathangodbolt9134]

@@jiroweiler5883 sledgehammers? My man's has god killers for hands

[@hentaiprotagonist729]

Nah still matter

[@nirvina4237]

not only that, his fist is hard as like iron since his training involved punching a log into a hill

[@gaenaegga]

and a name doesn't matter, we are all monsters without a name

[@Annihilation_Studios]

1:25 props to the voice actor for miguel here. Thats the voice of somebody who is absolutely terrified for his friends life

[@boRalto]

[CAMERA SHAKING INTENSIFIES]

[@marvel9181]

はじめの一歩でこの試合が一番好きだわ、最初ラルフ・アンダーソン軍曹が戦争のせいで性格が変わってしまったとはいえ日本人のことめっちゃ見下してて特に日本人ボクサーのことはボクサーとすら思ってないぐらい見下してたのに鴨川会長の事を1人のボクサーとして見てるとことか好き

[@JohnSmithPlaysGames]

This might be one of Ippo Anime's best animated fights, they really did it justice. Watching this scene just gives me constant shivers.

[@fangofshadows5371]

they went all out in memory of kamogawas voice actor he passed away shortly before this episode was released

[@treacherousjslither6920]

Frank fucking Reynolds baby!

[@angelserenade]

Can you imagine if Kamogawa had been a modern-day (Ippo's time) boxer, having access to good gym equipment and good guidance? He'd be able to be one of Japan's world title holder! Mad respect to him and Nekota.

[@kleboldklesold]

he'd probably end up broken. he lacks too much.

[@epicnightmare5600]

​@@kleboldklesoldyeah but imagine he actually trained his body his speed he would be a heavy ass hitter enough power to shatter your ribs with one good punch

[@getschwifty9531]

Modern centric philosophy is overrated. The crudeness and rawness of training of the early days built tough minded and bodied boxers. Modern boxers can barely make it 12 rounds and they used to box over 20 rounds back in the day.

[@bioy2646]

​@@getschwifty9531fr tho, they were actually monsters 😂

[@sugher4749]

@@getschwifty9531and they all had extreme cte and Parkinson’s by the time they were 50 lol.

[@deviltuned]

Mamoru Miyano really did Kamogawa justice here! He really was into his role. Definitely one of his best performances.

[@dewinmoonl]

1:42 Authentic signature by Kamogawa. Printed in high-def through a boxing glove on muscular canvas. A priceless piece of work, two have ever been created, but all on the same muscular canvas. Auction of this work is currently impossible

[@richardblevins9878]

Genius

[@gaenaegga]

Why doesnt this have more likes?

[@filmwoodmedia]

That moment you realise Anderson's second is Hawk's coach....

[@takamuramamoru8454]

Mr Asylum Alan Nigga should I teach u English now???

[@filmwoodmedia]

Aditya Sharma the very same miguel

[@filmwoodmedia]

Takamura Mamoru *you

[@potatoguy8390]

No bruuu . Volgs trainer which kamogawa contacted at early episodes was that man. Ya know that old man with a beanie

[@ginta_san]

czenrick mejia No, it's Miguel Zale. Trainer of Anderson and Hawk.

[@savagekruger77]

I love the fact that I watched this episode way before spoilers were on the internet. Memorable episode.

[@Camuska]

Kamogawa was part of the Pearl Harbour attack. He punched into the american ships to sink them. No one ever knew because it was classified by americans, afraid of the man with Tekken fists.

[@nazocomics]

A weapon to surpass metal gear

[@FernandoRojas-qm6mg]

That was Yuichiro Hanma.

[@TheMaxCloud]

Tekken already means Iron Fist...

[@trollsparda]

Kamogawa is actually the other Mishima.

[@inujutsu8927]

@@TheMaxCloud Kamogawa's fists are so strong that even calling his fists 'Iron fists fists' is an okay thing.

[@thomasweeden2683]

Sent this dude to the fucking Shadow Realm

[@WolfGang-yh5vb]

This is the greatest punch in any anime. No other anime has made me cringe that much from a punch.

[@whiteb0yFTW]

this is why Takamura and Kamogawa are gods!

[@SrRagde]

There´s also Miyata´s punch that he used against the pacific champion !

[@WolfGang-yh5vb]

That one was also very nice (seeing how it's my youtube profile pic- the manga version's that is), but this one sent chills down my spine. No other punch has made me do that.

[@gustavod.4795]

It really is one of the best. It's easy to say that stronger punches were already animated, from Dragonball for example, but Hajime No Ippo stands second to none when it comes to animating something as complicated as how heavy the punches are. You see a punch in Dragonball its " he got punched hard", you see a punch in Hajime No Ippo and you feel that in your freaking body.

[@raulrojas9253]

Not an anime But Most of Asuras Wrath punches.

[@Berttiz]

holy shit this scene is so amazing, at the start he music is so freaking perfect for it. but what seals it for me is Kamogawa's VA at 0:21 such a powerful performance.

[@Netsaver]

You can train your abs all you want, there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop a blow that is the sheer equivalent to a sledgehammer.

[@vaiyt]

A blow that is the equivalent of Ippo holding a sledgehammer. That's a step above ordinary sledgehammering.

[@rafaeltiburcio6624]

@Naaah Fam he dodges it not tank it

[@GhostOfBr]

@@rafaeltiburcio6624 actually, Muhammad Ali tanked "big" George Foreman's hellish body blows for 7 rounds while laying on the ropes, making him punch himself out and knocking him out short after. He had a chin made of titanium to compensate for his loss of speed after Vietnam.

[@sweet2ooth1]

Silent Soul Ken SSK Marvelous Marvin Hagler, that man tanked shots from Duran and Leonard. His core was less muscle tissue and more Iron.

[@ricehair8807]

Plot punch

[@Blitz1Blacktail1]

I laughed so fucking hard when he made that blow. Those effects are fucking insane. I love it.

[@nivyan]

"Mighty Shenron, I wish to restore Anderson' body and strength back before he fought Kamogawa" "........That wish is beyond my power"

[@salmanmammu2473]

👍

[@burningsoul4907]

I bet even Super Shenron can’t grant that wish

[@tmyy_u]

笑った。 ナイスセンス。

[@ーしんじろー]

100巻以上出てる漫画の中で一番好きなシーン

[@ObitoUchihaist]

Kamogawa was a badass back then

[@p4ul.e970]

he still is ;B!

[@mregasi]

This is more spectacular than the entire Dragon Ball super series put together.

[@Bonclayr]

good say

[@joeynoodles5973]

I disagree. That Hit fight was godlike, but this is fucking AMAZING.

[@Bebolife12345]

Not hard to out do a joke of an anime like Dragon Ball Super that ends up shitting on anything true Dragon Ball fans loved and tarnishing the true spirit of the franchise.

[@joeynoodles5973]

Bebolife12345 How? It's not as terrible as people make it out to be. If Dragon Ball was a 9.5/10 then DBS would be a 7.5 imo. Why do you think it's the equivalent of Shippuden?

[@Bebolife12345]

***** Equivalent to Shippuden isn't exactly a milestone that is worth writing home about my friend.. To be honest I'd say saying it's equivalent to even Shippuden is being excessively generous.

[@ugjibii1155]

I love this fight so much. The discordant screeching after kamogawa’s punches land makes the impacts so much better

[@SadBheeseChurger]

What kind of sfx is that called?

[@viberbread]

@@SadBheeseChurger artillery

[@BellowDGaming]

This is my 2nd most favorite animated fight on Hajime no Ippo the intensity of the match and how well the animation conveyed the pain, muscle injuries and overall pacing is really top notch.

[@aabevincent5601]

Whats the first?

[@arminselmanovic381]

this short scene sums up, why i love this anime -fucking epic moments, i always get goose bumps -fantastic voice acting - incredible soundtracks (the Finisher ost and the weight of my pride are sooooo awesome, i listen to them, while i train -good animation ( in particular this fight/backstory-arc has the best animation) -great choreography (-great comedy and the best character of all time: Takamura)

[@arminselmanovic381]

and good rewatch value

[@kAzyy91]

+Armin Selmanovic Hekireki too bro, this song is definetlly one of my favourite in whole anime, not only Hajime no Ippo, feet so well ;)

[@arminselmanovic381]

+kAzyy91 thats right

[@howard18jr]

and their sound effects

[@crazybaboon1749]

Voice acting is amazing indeed, when he says "don't pass out" it's like he really took a punch

[@マイフレンド-y5g]

長い一歩シリーズの中でも鴨川ストーリーが一番好きなんさな👍

[@かかしkaka]

同士よ

[@バックパッカー-y6n]

me too

[@しゅがーくりぼー]

回想始まってクソかよって思ってたらこれだもんな…珍しく面白くかっこいい回想

[@岡岡-f1l]

この話だけは、 実写化して 映画にして欲しい

[@知らんナニカ]

アメ公がパンチで沈むシーンはスッキリすんぜ。 しっかし若き日のミゲルはブライアンホークによく似とる。

[@ultimaluigi]

His voice gave me the chills when he said "dont pass out"

[@Rocket0Surgeon]

Vincent Herrera and when he screams"ATTACK!"

[@JAKETHEONE-88]

0:51 green eyes of courage :0

[@2AnnoyingAngelo]

That my friend... That's the face of death.

[@we9840]

Now I know why their gym is called "dynamite glove"

[@ThePunishersRevenge]

i love the sound of the punch, it just iron clanking, an iron fist destroying anderson

[@IccyTheOne]

Tekken.

[@jackjaeggar5263]

IccyTheOne Well said sir, thats the name of that PUNCH.

[@demapples6580]

Watched this countless times, love it every time. Sometime I cry because it makes me emotional.

[@sandpile9515]

I absolutely love how feral Kamogawa sounds in this fight, this scene in particular is seriously so cool.

[@dusk6159]

Rare intensity, no question.

[@p4ul.e970]

the most brutal punch of this manga

[@AngelDvA]

Yep it is, the only one who was nearly a killing one.

[@elguaro3]

What about that one Ippo used on that guy who made fun of Kamogawa and his other rivals? Ippo made that bitch spin in mid-air 2 times and when he fell he rolled another 2 times in the mat.

[@p4ul.e970]

but that was it! Kamogawa almost killed the guy with two punches, he destroyed his insides.

[@AngelDvA]

Perona it was huge but Kamogawa almost Kill Anderson with his tekken, Ippo just knocked out the dude..

[@SmilingJack65]

***** There are a few things to take into account about that though. 1. Ippo used 1 punch vs Kamogawa's 2. 2. Ippo punched his head which is much more protected than a person's body. The American's 2nd even said that if Kamogawa had aimed for the sergeant's chin it would have shattered his fist completely and likely not done as much. So the reason Kamogawa's fists did as much damage as that was because he focused on a part of the body that wasn't solid bone like the head is. 3. That guy Ippo punched got lucky. When he was knocked out they weren't sure if he was dead or in a coma or whatever. He did however walk away with brain damage due to the fact that his mind actually suppressed the memory putting it in a category of "unbearable fear or pain that would cause too great a shock to the body". They don't revisit him either. For all we know, he could have sustained lasting brain damage that wont become apparent until much later. 4. Even though Ippo punched with more strength than ever before, he didn't punch so hard that he broke his hands. Although Kamogawa's were fragile to start when he messed them up before the fight even started *who the hell bare hand punches a log into a hill?*. 5. I really hope they include Kojima's match in the next season of anime, I get misty eyed thinking about how that 1-hit K.O. will be animated and the sounds that will go with it.

[@TheSpinner456]

i've watched this a thousand times now and still not tired of it lol

[@serruriaflorida9608]

Anderson: I worked hard my abs, take them if you want. Kamogawa: No backsies.

[@elforte-333]

0:16～ ここの声を絞り出す様な演技が好き

[@SirMalorak]

So he broke his ribs. Okay, that's reasonable. With 2 punches, almost like...All of them. ...Jeez, what the- And he pierced his enemies' organs with them ...That's fucking Metal dude. Tekken Kamogawa!

[@ThaProfetPR1]

The cruel reality is that after the first attempted murder hit landed the fight was decided. If Anderson guarded his body he would have been instantly killed by that... Goddamn I can't even call it a punch that's how vicious it was. If that hit anyone in the face it's an immediate vegetative state for you doesn't matter if your Ippo or Takamura or whoever else this manga decides to put as the epitome of toughness and spirit. Work of Art, not just this manga but the anime truly does it justice. Godly voice acting just makes it more enjoyable

[@ped3752]

A bit late but Ippo acquired the iron fists

[@ThaProfetPR1]

Lol a bit late indeed :D let's just hope Ippo gets to use them soon

[@kencho564]

ThaProfetPR wait will the anime get new series?

[@onlyjonathan4846]

@@kencho564 no

[@acoolblackblob3913]

@@ped3752 oh my man not yet in the manga but soon he will

[@bloodyyice]

One of the strongests punches of all animes history. You can feel his pain.

[@ProGamingChannelZ]

I feel it in a way that is not one of the strongest. It’s the strongest and the best. Giving it an analysis it is just perfect because before the punch they show us these 4 episodes of Kamogawa’s and Neko’s past which are mostly drama and we get attacched to the emotions since the start of this mini-saga. Then after all the pressure of Neko’s feelings, Kamogawa’s way to live and the short life of the girl, Neko get beaten bad by Anderson. And then Kamogawa is pretty much out of its mind. This automaticaly boosts of emotions the scene that we will see after. When we saw Kamogawa that punched that log into the hill, we knew at that point that something reali different was going to happen. The fight starts and we can see how they are coerent with the reality of the things: Anderson is technically stronger but Kamogawas need only few punches to finish the match. So Kamogawa basically gets beaten and so his character goes in a disperation mode. And that’s the difference. He will give it all to the last punch. And that last punch, after all the situation before it, is simply on another level. The way its drawn using the hatching technique gives an insane amount of wildness, dinamic, power all moving to a point. The sound in it are perfectly synced and with a pretty high volume and its very impactful. But the very best out there is what happens. The shock that Anderson gets. The continues of the sounds literally exploding behind it. The camera shaking so much. The insides of Anderson completely broken. Its a tremendous power unleashing. It’s a 10 second punch with all these perfectly matched characteristics. This is just perfectly executed, animated, realized. Beyond that I just felt all these things that I wrote in a single moment. I personally think this is the best punch out there. Even though I saw some other punches that I thought they will never be beaten, this one in Hajime no Ippo , completely exceed all the others, to me.

[@rx7.teykhan683]

It's not the strongest, I think you meant that punch has the biggest impact on us, as in we can literally feel the impact of that punch

[@ZaitroSilau]

The animation the sound effects the voice acting, all on done in sync.

[@Rex10111]

I think the best thing about the Tekken is...the sound of it. Hajime No Ippo's sound design is quietly (ironically enough lol) the most brilliant part of it's production; jet engine noises as Ippo flies across the ring, a sharp scythe scraping the air as Mashiba moves his arm back and forth, every punch and move in this anime is sold thanks to how monstrously powerful they sound. But the Tekken is something else. Each time before it hits, everything else goes completely quiet, so the actual impact practically BOOMS as it connects. And what an impact it is, a thunderously loud CLANG of crushed metal, like the opponent was hit with a steel hammer and not a simple fist. And shortly after an utter COCOPHONY of rushing winds and cracking stone as Anderson's body just collapses under the sheer power of the attack. A storm louder then anything else in the series, utterly overwhelming and terrifying from both directions. Fitting for a move that ends the career of two world class boxers at the same time. The only punch that comes close to this level of auditory power is Takamura's final punch against Hawk, but even that literally stadium shaking move sounds like a whisper next to the earth shattering Tekken. Fucking SHIT I love this show.

[@nathanieldello3034]

I don't agree with your opinion. That's all I'm gonna say

[@mrgoky5733]

​​@@nathanieldello3034Agreed

[@Henriestorm]

This Video Should be called "The Branding Of Anderson"

[@johnchristian8685]

LMAO! 😂😂😂WITH THIS PUNCH I BRAND YOU MY BITCH!

[@laieon.9315]

John Christian Gacutan ROFLLLL IM DONE 😂😂😂

[@25deadboylife]

OMFG 😂😂😂

[@mehmeterkan8316]

I enjoyed the kamogawa and nekota story way too much.. was simply brilliant

[@nishinariswan]

このエピソードははじめの一歩のなかでも1番。

[@Kr1z92]

that god damn sound of a hammer slamming steel from the second body blow gives me chills every single time, fucking ippo is one of the best anime ever

[@TuskyBaby]

While Rising wasn't the best in terms of the other ippo series, this fight may be the coolest thing I've seen in anime

[@MellowFellow137]

vidsman625 ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORA

[@animemaking8396]

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[@Dantepudu]

vidsman625 YARE YARE

[@JohnSmithPlaysGames]

They did kinda gloss over Shimabukuru but the new Dempsey and this fight were definitely worth it.

[@NinjapowerMS]

Season 2 had the best animation with this season a bit in the back. Kinda wish this arc was longer though, Nekota fighting made me appreciate Out boxers and now Itagaki is turning into my favorite potentials right now.

[@OfficialRedTeamReview]

Hajime no Ippo: Rising

[@richardbalot1124]

RedTeamReview y u here

[@SlapZap]

RedTeamReview tnx

[@blemurderbyson2033]

( Rising )...lol 😅

[@zenitsuthunder3946]

Studio mappa did this? Damn

[@okami_amine]

@@zenitsuthunder3946 mad house and mappa

[@danielkhan1]

I remember reading this on the HnI reddit, but this entire arc was symbolic of the war (WWII). The title of the post is "Kamogawa's story: literal v. Literary reading". In essence, the symbolism revolves around Nekota, the heart of Japan and its optimism, Yuki, the body and hope of Japan, and Kamogawa, the Japanese unshakable spirit and willpower. As for Anderson, he represents the seemingly invincible force known as America. Just as America did not pay heed to the symbolic head of Japan and directly attacked its body with Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Anderson attacks the body of people as well. He takes out Nekota and, indirectly, Yuki. Here, Kamogawa acts as the center of Japan's "revenge story" and destroys Anderson, symbolizing America, in a similar fashion. His two punches each represent the nukes that destroyed Japan's hope and optimism. His fists represent total destruction. But this arc was just a mythological retelling, and now Kamogawa has a new role, to recover what was lost: talent and hope. Ty to u/McFaberack for this literary analysis because now I can never watch this fight without tearing up LMAO

[@danielkhan1]

Here is the original post bc idk if I can post links: In a previous post (speculating on a possible confrontation between Kamogawa and Hawk), it was discussed how the fight between Kamogawa and Anderson is unrealistic. Quotes from that discussion: - Kamogawa only won against Anderson because this is a manga where a character drove a log into a hill with his fist and didn't shattered every bone the arm and shoulder. - Top 5 in the world boxer that got beaten by a unknown Bantamweight These are two quotes I took as a model of the argument that that fight is not to be taken seriously as it is obviously ridiculous and over the top.While I AGREE that, if you take the fight at face value, it is very silly and unrealistic (hitting logs into a hill with your bare hands is not an effective form of training, for obvious reasons), I think it is appropriate to look at this story from a literary perspective to understand what it is talking about. ​ First of all, the context: Coach Kamogawa is, as far as his status in the tale is concerned, a mythological figure, a founding figure for the characters. He is the head of the kamogawa gym and its founder, as well as the origin of the "dream" that Ippo and Takamura are carrying out. It is therefore evident that, when his story is told, it undergoes an abrupt change of tone from what we are used to in the rest of the story. The atmosphere becomes darker, there is an ancient nostalgia that lingers throughout the tale. This is not the original tale anymore, it is the founding myth of Hajime no Ippo, so you should read it with the eye of the myth reader. In addition to Kamogawa's personal story (and the beginning of the story of Hajime no Ippo itself), the history of Japan is added, so that the characters within it become the representatives of aspects of historical characters (specifically America and Japan). We must remember that at that time, Japan had just emerged from a war that had seen them humiliated and broken. The three protagonists represent three elements of Japan: - Nekota is the heart of Japan, he embodies optimism, hope for the future, energy and growth potential. His immense talent represents the possibility of Japan's recovery and revenge. However, Nekota's potential is shattered, he cannot realistically be realized due to brain damage. - Yuki is the body and hope of Japan. She is the potential from which new life can be born, and her possible union with Nekota or Kamogawa fills both of them with hope. She is the inspiration for Kamogawa and Nekota and brings the promise of a new generation filled with Japan's spirit (her love of sunflowers recalls the Japanese love of the sun, the path of which every Japanese follows when they look at the national flag). - Kamogawa represents the Japanese spirit, imperturbability, recklessness and willpower. His vision is more cynical (realistic?) and less optimistic than Nekota's. Having said that, the time has come to answer the central question: why did the fight between Anderson and Kamogawa HAD to go (precisely) that way, regardless of "realism" and "phisical accuracy"? Because what Kamogawa brings to the ring is all that I just mentioned above, while Anderson becomes the proxy for America. Anderson si big, strong and seems invincible. He already took down the best of Japan (Nekota) and all that remains is the sheer stubbornness of not giving up. The way in which Kamogawa defeats Anderson is meant to be a mirror of the way in which America defeated Japan. America didn't went for the head, didn't try to kill the generals, the emperor or everything that symbolizes the "head" of Japan, they dropped two bombs on the body of japan (cities and citizens). In the same fashion, Kamogawa's mission is to drop two "bombs" back on Anderson's (America's) body, leaving him broken just as America broke Japan before. Anderson becomes the sacrificial lamb of Japan's desire for revenge, he is directly responsible of Japan's youth defeat (Nekota) and indirectly responsible (as an american military) of the poisoning of Japan's land (Yuki). At the end, once revenge is accomplished, both Japan's talent and hope (Nekota and Yuki) must disappear (they go up the mountain, another mythical trope that i won't explain this time XD), since Japan has lost both his potential and his hope for the future. The only one that remains is Kamogawa, that now that the revenge is done, is left with a new purpose, to recover what was lost: talent and hope. And that's why I think that you souldn't read this particular arc in the same way you read the others: it's a memory, it's a myth and it has a narrative structure that requires an improbable outcome (as is Japan beating America militaty wise). ​ I hope that my rambling was clear enough (english is not my native language) and I hope that you enjoyed it! If you have other ideas or perspectives, please share them as I will be delighted to read them!

[@Boniqer]

Ah yes the spirit of the world war 2 Japanese. Raping and murdering innocent people in Korea and China and too this day refuse to acknowledge forcing Korean women to perform sexual slavery for their soldiers. You know to the point NBC had to offer an apology when Koreans were pissed because their analyst at the Olympics said Japan contributed to Korea. It’s hilarious how Japan brushes their massacres under the rug and whine and cry about being occupied. But I guess that’s to be expected when your education system literally denies the atrocities everyone else knows you committed. I’d love to see the manga about the Japanese rape of Nanking. But we’ll never see that because the Japanese to this day deny they did anything 🤣 They’ll keep crying about being occupied though. I know one thing. I’ll sure never go to war if China invaded Japan. They can fight that one on their own and write a manga about it. If any of them are left to write manga 😂

[@hussen.thamer]

Thank you

[@cycy8699]

this two hit combo is now officially named the little boy fat man combo

[@dusk6159]

With the caviat that this story speaks about a tremendously terrible, dishonorable with prisoners and their own young conscripts, criminal, abusive, in a way cowardly etc dictatorial country like Japan, its territories and its state, then the soviet regime who truly would have brought, like with anybody they occupied, hell to Japan, its population and territory (and also dethroned the emperor and not respected the imperial institution or anything else of Japan) which, luckily for Asia, Japan and everybody else in the world, could never act on its plans because the US reached first and everything was solved there and then the same America that itself literally made Imperial Japan, the losing side in its conquest goals (the same Japan who would've completely annihilated its own population first, besides the entirety of Asia and hundreds of thousands of american soldiers, had the war continued beyond 1945 and had the war not seen the nuclear bombs put to use by Truman), recovered, supported, improved, new, on the scene again and many other things, and that was that before going away and leaving everything to the japanese governments with the given resources, tools and foundations. So much for the evil occupiers. One could say, ''not exactly'' like a guy like Anderson and everything that he embodies... It's good and greatly put as well, it's all great storytelling - besides Kamogawa and the fighting events being so great already - and it's a nice homer story by the author, but the real context and the real pre-1946 Japan should be had in mind when approaching this part of Hajime no Ippo. Taniguchi and Mizuki for example, but Miyazaki, Tezuka, (in a way) Kurosawa and others as well, but especially those who lived those periods and had to even fight on the front or who were particularly sensible and in contact with that recent past although they weren't still born, would know very well how to feel about this portrayal of that past post-1920s Japan, and not the current or medieval or ancient Japan but that specific Japan and the postwar decade. And with what eye they should watch and take this. Like many others who suffered who were themselves japanese and acting parties, like many japanese men, women and households (besides the perpetrators, nobody ever felt guilt or even regretted anything, nobody was ever a penitent there, just like their nazi counterparts; like the head jailer of Zamperini or the high command).