👋 Goodbye, CoPilot! Hello, Codeium!

[@_codemaestro]

If using Codeium for privacy, it might also be good to use VSCodium for the same reason. It might take some work to install and run the extension, but should work well enough.

[@CodinginPublic]

Is VSCodium a fork of VSCode?

[@_codemaestro]

Yes. I tried it for a bit. Most extensions worked fine, unless they require access to MS servers, like Live Share.

[@no_name4796]

or go extreme, and switch to neovim. If you are willing to be in pain for a LOOONG time (i had to use neovim for 1 year to be at a level where i actually am faster then vscode), it's most definitely worth it! And also forces you to learn how stuff (like lsp, completion,...) actually work, which is nice to know for a programmer And all plugins are open source, so you actually have 100% privacy Also: ironically enough, Codemium is easier to install on neovim then many other plugins lol.

[@losource]

I am finding that Claude 3 Opus in an open browser window is more helpful that an integrated assistant in my editor. It lacks the context and repo access, but it learns quickly through the continuing conversation.

[@CodinginPublic]

I agree each place has its use case. I mostly use codium for writing small functions I already know how to write and just don’t want to take the time to manually write out. I use Raycast’s GPT to discuss code patterns im not yet sure how to solve.

[@tinusg]

For me it's the reverse. I cannot live with assistants that don't have context and auto completion.

[@losource]

@@tinusg Well here's the thing. There is context after a fashion because you can keep adding to a conversation and Claude just keeps on learning. I keep a single conversation going for each project. Start by uploading the relevant files. It's not the same as having full access to the project and repo, but on the other hand Claude 3 Opus is totally blowing GPT-4 out of the water for coding suggestions. I still have Github copilot, but mainly just for git commit messages now lol.

[@seventyfive7597]

​@@losource I actually find gpt to be vastly superior to opus when it comes to a bit more complex code like real time or fully featured languages such as cpp, or in complex algorithms etc. Opus will go for the naive approach and it's good if the language limits your expressability as in python, but not when you can consider more sophisticated paradigms.

[@ACRemote-z8x]

For me, claude is quite coherent (i.e. new code is consistent with previous functions and all so it almost always runs). The problem is, the lack direct integration means sometimes i paste entire scripts to keep it coherent but that eats up context windows.

[@zalodias]

Have you tried Phind? Similar to this, specially the sidebar. It does not have inline autocomplete though.

[@CodinginPublic]

Huh. I haven’t!

[@KennyTheAIGuy]

it does now 😁I use phind all the time I am surprised it's mentioned so little, it blows ALL the other ones out of the water IMO especially cause it always has the latest models, currently using it with Claude 3.5 and it's amazing

[@cahva2]

Unfortunately my experience was a lot worse. The quality of code and suggestions was not as good vs co-pilot :(

[@CodinginPublic]

Hopefully mine sticks! So far I’m liking it at least as much.

[@shrek95372q]

the best copilot is your brain+ chatgpt

[@MotasemAli-jn5uh]

tbh my experience with codeium was amazing for my needs, at the end am the one who is thinking forward and the ai is just a help for me

[@TheCrowdel]

Hei Chris I just want to ask: when did you make the blog tutorial? I've been waiting.

[@_evillevi]

One minuto and a half into the video and you already convinced me I don't need copilot anymore

[@CodinginPublic]

Yeah, we’ll see! I had already paid through June…so we’ll see if I restart copilot again. Right now I technically have access to both, but am just using codium rn. And currently, I won’t renew GitHub copilot.

[@jakubjenis]

Is there a way to set the whole project folder as context? If I understand correctly, it always uses the current file.

[@CodinginPublic]

I’m actually not sure?

[@tonyserrano1048]

you can set direcories as context

[@edinchez]

Have you tried Cursor? How would this compare to Cursor?

[@CodinginPublic]

I haven’t!

[@edinchez]

@@CodinginPublic I’d love to see a video of you comparing these AI coding tools if you can! Thanks for the reply 😊

[@ElenaBG3]

Last time they killed Cortana…next is Copilot, it’s just a matter of time

[@CodinginPublic]

lol is Microsoft the new Google?

[@lukecartwright613]

How have I never heard of this yet? This looks amazing! I'll use this on personal projects

[@CodinginPublic]

Seriously! I heard about it on syntax fm.

[@lucyfrye6723]

the code completion is amazing. just started writing a loader for my project, after writing the header it gave me a good suggestion based on just the function name and the params (opening the file I think). TAB, ENTER, next line, another good suggestion TAB, ENTER, it ended up writing the whole thing!

[@CodinginPublic]

Great to hear!

[@depreza68]

does it consume heavy memory? like tabnine for example

[@CodinginPublic]

Not noticeably in my experience?

[@KHe3CaspianXI]

we can hire this guy as wolworine after hugh jackman or as stunt double

[@SVGPRO]

Thank you for sharing this and not keeping this to yourself.

[@CodinginPublic]

Sure thing!

[@joshm9163]

Do you still feel this way after 5 months of use?

[@CodinginPublic]

Still using it TBH. But I haven’t tried CoPilot again recently. I should!

[@RemotHuman]

i think command i works in copilot too not sure

[@jjaimealeman]

WOW! If it's good enough for you, it's good enough for me. 🎉

[@CodinginPublic]

Yeah, so far I’m a big fan! Let me know what you think!

[@munna5553]

love from India❤❤

[@mrinal4875]

Thanks for this video. I've started using it but I can't find the conversations I had. Are the chats not saved here?

[@CodinginPublic]

You're welcome! It should keep your chat history in the sidebar?

[@dinoscheidt]

0:58 random company offers “free forever” while external analysts estimated, and was later confirmed, that github co-pilot - despite charging users - is losing about 20 USD per User per month. So, explain to me like I am five, why any sane software engineer should turn their back on a company and team that has a 1+ decade track record in supporting the software engineering practice in exchange for … this?

[@wasituzayer9728]

Competition is always beneficial for consumers.

[@ontheruntonowhere]

If the results are as good and it's free, why not? Am I missing something?

[@CodinginPublic]

Like I said, we’ll see… I heard a really good interview on syntax fm podcast. And it seems like they’re able to offer this. But we’ll see…

[@sparthir]

I'm not sure I trust this channel if coding isn't done in dark-mode. ;o)

[@CodinginPublic]

lol. Did I do this video in light mode? That would be a first ha

[@vvmhd7431]

@@CodinginPublic😂😂😂😂

[@scrimb]

Is it just me, or did Codeium get worse? Are they merging more tokens now since more people are using it?

[@CodinginPublic]

Hmm. Haven’t noticed that? But it’s possible. I think these things will still take a while to be consistently helpful

[@wasituzayer9728]

After a bit (a lot) of trouble, I installed it for Neovim in NixOS. It works really well with custom keybindings, and the language server is quite responsive. I am a bit doubtful about their pricing model being sustainable though. Awesome video as always!

[@CodinginPublic]

Huh, cool! Yeah, we’ll see if it’s sustainable for pricing.

[@nickwoodward819]

been using codeium for the past year or so. mine's errored out right now and has been for a while and I honestly don't care that much **edit: just checked - i just didn't bother installing it on this new laptop... it's a pretty good auto complete. Kind of. i might reinstall it. had been hoping copilot was a step above, but obviously not? shame. i can't remember the last time codeium actually helped me solve a bug though. gippity 3.5, 100%.

[@nickwoodward819]

maybe this video will highlight that it's me being useless 🤷‍♂

[@CodinginPublic]

I think it depends on what you use these things for. For me, I mostly use AI in-editor for writing small, dumb functions I know how to write but don’t want to take the time to write. Longer coding discussions about code take place outside my editor. Not sure why I’ve done it like that, but it seems to help!

[@genome692002]

it makes a lot of mistakes.. I just ask it to show documentaion for HardwareSerial constructor.. on the arguments it switched the pins and the arguments wrong.. if i didnt know already.. goodluck debugging code..

[@munna5553]

can you please make some videos on reactjs reusable component please sir

[@CodinginPublic]

I’ve done a few videos on react. I should do some more!

[@munna5553]

@@CodinginPublicyes sir make more videos on reusable components. Apart from that you're great teacher ♥️♥️

[@kaiwang2924]

Fast and clear

[@CodinginPublic]

Glad it was helpful!

[@arafatsbackup-data8027]

We can do it more easily with gpt or Gemini. I think copilot is best

[@CodinginPublic]

That's fair. It'll still be a bit before I think we figure out how to use all these tools.

[@elliscaicedo9045]

Codeium free don't work , just work for a couple of minutes or seconds and that's it

[@CodinginPublic]

Hmm. I’ve been using it for months without trouble. Have you reached out to support?

[@מתןללוש]

Cool thanks

[@CodinginPublic]

Sure thing!

[@Jobwerk]

Backdoor promotion

[@CodinginPublic]

Ha, nope. I’ve only ever had a few sponsors and I’m insistent on making those super clear. It’s in the description and disclosed explicitly in the video.

[@zoki5388]

@workspace is not that bad at copilot.