I Never Should Have Said That! [Now I Don't Know If It's Worth It]

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Neil Koch: Dig-Drive-DIY

Neil Koch: Dig-Drive-DIY

Күн бұрын

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@heathmiller8462
@heathmiller8462 Жыл бұрын
Ok - couple of thoughts: No harm using aftermarket parts ($26 vs $200 for an oil pump c’mon- but to each his own). Glad you didn’t swap out the bar - keeps the character. It was great to see that snap ring fly off into the saw - good to see it happens to everyone! Lastly, the commentary made the video awesome. Good stuff! Thanks!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Ha! Glad to hear you say that. I watched it back again this morning and thought to myself "I talk too much!". Thanks Heath.
@Ben-fk9ey
@Ben-fk9ey Жыл бұрын
I was on a chainsaw course and the instructor said he went to Europe and some Dutch guy with a super thick accent called the snap ring a "pingfuckit", the instructor kinda missing what he said asked why he calls them that and the Dutchman replied "because when you try and put it on or off it usually pings off flying and disappearing somewhere and you say ah fuck it".
@quadvloggs6876
@quadvloggs6876 Жыл бұрын
If you don't want that clutch bearing to fail again make sure you grease the bearings regularly as it should be done with the regular maintenance the saw should get, I like to put a new fuel filter and spark plug in my saw every year along with checking the diaphragms in the carb and cleaning bar greasing stuff checking rubber components etc.
@MarkDifazzio
@MarkDifazzio Жыл бұрын
I'm glad I'm not the only one that struggles with the various competing factors when considering aftermarket replacement parts, oem expense, availability, and having to send things to the junkyard. Good results, hope it serves you well for the next 20 yrs
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Well said!
@PurpleCollarLife
@PurpleCollarLife Жыл бұрын
Good job, Neil. I’m always afraid to even dig into projects like this because I’m worried I’ll cause more harm than good. “This is how you figure things out” is a good philosophy- but I’m just always worried to try. As far as the aftermarket parts - I’m interested to see how they hold up. I’ve always been a fan of OEM parts - but like you say the prices are sometimes cost prohibitive. That’s certainly a good old saw to try to keep alive rather than just scrapping it.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
I was blown away by the price and availability of the aftermarket parts compared to OEM. They are so prevalent that it makes it difficult to find STIHL parts online. Thanks for the thoughts and insight Chad!
@WatchWesWork
@WatchWesWork Жыл бұрын
Seems like the right way to do it. My Stihl has been leaking oil for over a year. One of these days...
@NoPlanProjects
@NoPlanProjects Жыл бұрын
Become a mechanic they say, you'll know how to fix your own stuff. Nobody tells you you'll be so busy fixing other people's stuff to take care of your own.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
If I worked on everything that leaked oil at my place I would have content for a solid year!
@goptools
@goptools Жыл бұрын
Hi Neil. Given the price difference between OEM and aftermarket parts, I would have done the same thing. In the end, you replaced the part that wears the most (the clutch) with an OEM part anyway, so you should be good. I think it was a good idea to replace the drum, since it looked like it had gotten hot and had heat marks on it. Fixing mechanical things is not too bad even if you haven't done that type repair before, as long as you take your time and note where things were before you started. Taking pictures (or a video) helps too. Nice repair job! Thanks for the video! -mike
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot Mike. Glad to hear that opinion on the drum.
@DairyNZ
@DairyNZ Жыл бұрын
I have STIHL saws that are 30 years +. I use Chinese Farmertec aftermarket parts (see their website). I've built and run a couple of their full aftermarket kit saws, we'll worth a look if you like the maintain your own saws. I have the MS880 kit on order as I write this. The rubber parts don't last as long, but I don't mind because I quite enjoy taking them apart and fixing them.... To take the clutch off, put some rope in the spark plug hole (or use proper piston top) and wrench off.
@brianhayes7618
@brianhayes7618 Жыл бұрын
I think you went the right direction if it doesn't last your not out alot. I have even bought used ones listed as parts saws off ebay and used them for genuine parts at a price savings plus an extra bar and chain to boot
@periwinkle-dragonfly
@periwinkle-dragonfly Жыл бұрын
Very impressive that you fixed it!! Great job! I was concerned about the aftermarket parts, but glad you didn't skimp on the filter. This made me think about when I took my sewing machine apart and put it back together...many, many years ago. It's what I was trained to do in the Army...tear down and rebuild small engines & motors.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Oh nice! Yeah, I know much more about the saw now too!
@TBizzell68
@TBizzell68 Жыл бұрын
I’m sure you won’t regret buying the OEM clutch. You’ve made me nervous now though. I have a MS 029 of the same year give or take a year. I’m at least going to give it a good cleaning and once over. Great video, thanks.
@robertpao2931
@robertpao2931 Жыл бұрын
Small engine stuff has always confounded me. I have two weed whackers, chainsaw and backpack blower which are all dead. Parts are difficult to source and expensive at Times. That being said you motivated me to work on them.
@alancoleman4370
@alancoleman4370 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Aside from an ignition unit replaced a few years ago, my 1986 "Made in W. Germany" Stihl still saws on. Good luck on knock-off parts, and hats off to Sithl for still stocking parts for a 24 year old saw.
@sassafrasvalley1939
@sassafrasvalley1939 Жыл бұрын
Neil, I have the baby brother to your saw…. In 1988 I bought an 028 AVSEQ Super Wood Boss. It has been shown in a lot of my videos. And, is still in service today. It is Stihl’s longest produced saw and is still sought after by old timers who fondly remember its balance, weight to power ratio and reliability. In its lifetime it has had a carb rebuild, a piston overhaul and several sprocket replacements. As long as I can get parts… I’ll continue to use it as my go-to for limbing and brush work, I have an MS 310 that I use for felling and firewood processing. That should help to reduce the wear and tear on my Wood Boss. So, as far as should you have fixed up your Big Brother??? I think the comfort of having your favorite saw and satisfaction of having done the repairs… will far exceed the cost and hassle you endured. Here’s hoping you get years of good use from it . And thanks for saving a work horse from the grave!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
You're right about the comfort that comes with something familiar. I can't imagine not having that saw to use, but if it ever does fall into a situation where I can't justify repairing it, the rest assured it will get a well deserved, dedicated spot on the wall to be proudly displayed! I always appreciate your thoughts and insight on matters such as these. You always make me feel like I did the right thing even if I wasn't right! Fortunately in this case, I'm confident in saying this was the best outcome so far. Thanks always Dave!
@Brandon.Fischer
@Brandon.Fischer Жыл бұрын
As a saw builder that video was painful, but that’s exactly how I learned! That saw being as old as it is there’s no way I wouldn’t have done crank seals while I was staring at it either. Now you know how to get to them though! You did well Neil!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. I mentioned I wasn't a saw mechanic 😁 Didn't think about crank seals.
@Brandon.Fischer
@Brandon.Fischer Жыл бұрын
@@digdrivediy next time bud! Keep putting out quality content.. Btw that oil line was a major pain in the tail on the last 026 I did the other day too.
@d.a.ballou9740
@d.a.ballou9740 Жыл бұрын
Great video Neil. Two of my biggest problems when trying to do stuff like that is: lack of patience and not knowing how things come apart (like the left hand threads or hidden fasteners). Following close behind those two problems is not having the right tools! Glad you got it done! 😁👨‍🚒
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Thank you sir!
@oldbowsaw9001
@oldbowsaw9001 Жыл бұрын
Slow down get info with parts list and teardown and repair-tools--It can be fun when you pull that cord and old machinery running-cutting like new!! old cat mechanic!!🍔
@Sellarmusic
@Sellarmusic Жыл бұрын
I know you spent more than you originally intended but I still think you made a sound decision. You met the challenge by resurrecting a piece of equipment that's been reliable over the years and learned a lot about the saw in the process. There's $250 dollars worth of satisfaction in that and you still have a good saw. Thanks for sharing.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
For sure 😊
@joelnickerson9010
@joelnickerson9010 Жыл бұрын
Great job on the repair, great to see the old friend running strong. That was a tough choice that new 500 has me wanting and I don’t cut nearly as much as you….would have been easy to justify going new. I really enjoy your channel, thank you for the integrity of your videos.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Thanks Joel.
@john.massing
@john.massing Жыл бұрын
Great job! I loved it. I work on saws constantly and helped 2 people troubleshoot today. This is how we learn. 👍👍
@johanhermans8210
@johanhermans8210 Жыл бұрын
Hello Neil , nice work rebuilding your trusty old saw .let's hope your saw keeps running for a long time and will serve you well .I am curious to see how long the Chinese aftermarket parts will last . The newest saws aren't always better than the old school saws . Keep up the good videos . Greetings Johan 🇧🇪
@mattvarner1
@mattvarner1 Жыл бұрын
Good work repairing the saw. It’s crazy how much damage comes from a worn out .50 needle bearing. Oregon suggested that needle bearing and the rim that drives the chain should be changed after wearing out 3 chains. Very cheap maintenance to avoid a costly fix.
@matts1351
@matts1351 Жыл бұрын
These “0” saws are the best! I’ve got a couple 024s, O26, 028, 034… I don’t have an 036!! But what I have learned is for most parts- just go OEM. Even if you can find good used OEM parts, there’s always guys partin’ out beat saws online… you know it will fit versus dealing with fitment or quality aggravations… and keep your saw a functional collectors item! Good job
@meadowviewlawncarellc8079
@meadowviewlawncarellc8079 Жыл бұрын
I got aftermarket parts for my stihl demo saw. Clutch and the pull cord housing. Only difference was on the thickness of the pull cord so reused the original with stihl’s elasto start( the rubber in the handle of the pull cord). It works fine along with the clutch. All stihl parts are marked up a ridiculous amount.
@timberhitchllc
@timberhitchllc Жыл бұрын
FYI: The hole in the end of the crankshaft in many saws is a grease port for a push-type grease gun (same as for bar tip sprocket bearings) which ports grease to the clutch-brake needle bearing.
@timberray9572
@timberray9572 Жыл бұрын
On Husky's it is, not on Stihl's.
@greggmcclelland8430
@greggmcclelland8430 Жыл бұрын
Just got a stihl ms261-cm best saw I ever owned. Amazing power to weight ratio. running a 20 inch bar with a carbide chain. Got ripping chains for chainsaw milling with a granberg 20 inch mill.
@BrentHEdmonson
@BrentHEdmonson Жыл бұрын
Great video, I’m currently in the same boat with a clutch failure on my Stihl 044. Currently putting together a parts list, and you’re definitely making me rethink going the aftermarket route.
@robertdraper7258
@robertdraper7258 Жыл бұрын
I used to service Stihl products and when I saw you putting that Snap Ring on first thing I said was "Put your finger over it!" Didn't think you heard me but after several attempts you listened. LOL A pinched finger will sting for a little while, but not as frustrating as searching for a lost Snap Ring. Congratulations on repairing that dependable chain saw!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Haha! Thanks Robert!
@timberray9572
@timberray9572 Жыл бұрын
I am no mechanic either, God bless Steve's Small Engine Saloon, Chickanic and Donyboy 76 for showing me how to fix just about everything.
@brianviertel3047
@brianviertel3047 Жыл бұрын
Reverse thread on clutch. Take plug out and put cord down spark plug hole to stop rotation. Good content.
@austind4098
@austind4098 Жыл бұрын
First time seeing your channel and enjoyed this video. It was interesting as last year I did the same work on a saw and no real direction just figured it out along the way. Bought an old 032 from 1979 the original owner had and tuned it up, replaced parts, went through the whole OEM vs aftermarket parts, finding the right hoses etc. it was fun seeing someone else hit the same road blocks and keep pushing through to eventually having a great running new OLD saw
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Thanks for checking it out Austin!
@Sh0rtpawz
@Sh0rtpawz Жыл бұрын
We have 2 of those saws about the same age as yours! I think there both great saws. Very dependable and still original parts except plugs, filters and chains. I think both have original bars! It's always nice to have a second saw just incase. 😀
@lonniechartrand
@lonniechartrand Жыл бұрын
Good job on the rebuild, and thanks for the step by step video. I have a Stihl Farm Boss 290 that is still running strong. It is 30 years old and I hope to run it another......well, for a while yet! lol
@rayroberts7915
@rayroberts7915 Жыл бұрын
I’m very proud of you, you managed to work out the problem and fix it. The old stihl saws are made to last, I’ve had my 038 for 40 years, I can’t see the point in replacing it.
@MasonWelds
@MasonWelds Жыл бұрын
Neil, amazing video. Brought me right back to working on an MS250 this summer- what a nightmare let me tell you. Needed part after part (missing brake band and air filter, fuel line needed replacing) and still won’t run. It turns over a few times and then dies and won’t turn over again. I have a few ideas of what it might be but I just haven’t had the time to get to it again. Nice to watch you have success with your saw though!
@ChrisCipares
@ChrisCipares Жыл бұрын
Nice job on saving that ole' girl. I have a 024 AV from 1992 that still runs like a champ. My dad bought it new. Just put a new bar on it last year!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
My Dad has an 024 as well!
@PaulWhitedWoodStoneIron
@PaulWhitedWoodStoneIron Жыл бұрын
Neil. You made great choices with the saw repair. An oiler is easy to check all the time to see if it’s doing ok. So save the money there. Only thing I’ve spent the money towards is OEM Stihl piston on cylinders. We’ve had a 036 for many years as well and is a great power to weight saw for firewood. Good choice to keep er goin. Thanks for the video!
@oldbowsaw9001
@oldbowsaw9001 Жыл бұрын
Learned some new things about old saws--good info-I run 08s and others!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@stanky7341
@stanky7341 Жыл бұрын
Last year I changed the sprocket on my husky 359, a month later it stopped running , took the muffle off , the cylinder was all scored. 600 hundred to rebuild it. Bought a husky 562 xp and I love it. By the way if you wanna keep the cylinder from turning take spark plug out and put a rope in the cylinder....cool vid keep cutting
@ronaldayers6661
@ronaldayers6661 Жыл бұрын
Awesome job Neil! So many folks are afraid to tackle something like that. I use a Stihl 391 with a 25 inch bar and upgraded bumper spikes. It's got more power than I need but it's there when I need it.😂
@AdamB12
@AdamB12 Жыл бұрын
My dad had an old Sthil wood boss (made in West Germany.) That was an absolute beast, 3 or 4 pulls almost every time to start, low maintenance, cleaned the plug every now and again. Burned up in a fire unfortunately.
@watkinstreefarm6880
@watkinstreefarm6880 Жыл бұрын
Great video Neil. I am glad you showed some of the struggle as well. Been there done that. Thanks. I have an old husky I might re-build after watching you do it.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Thanks Jeff!
@zachspicer3475
@zachspicer3475 Жыл бұрын
A few years ago I toasted the clutch on my jonsered 2255, parts were 250 plus dollars and not in stock at the dealer. I impulse bought a stihl ms362 that day as it was winter and needed to have heat. Now 2 years later I just repaired it for 50 bucks with amazon parts. Overall I'm impressed with the quality. Only time will tell. Good video!!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Yes. It is very tempting and sounds like usually successful to use the aftermarket parts.
@CW1116
@CW1116 Жыл бұрын
Like so many of my repair jobs this one of yours ran longer and a little more expensive than you thought it would. Doesn't it feel great, however, after spending the time and money to hear the saw start and run just like it should? Gives a guy a real sense of accomplishment. My parts shops are all about 40-50 miles from me so running 2 or 3 times to the store is a real pain.
@CorwinBos
@CorwinBos Жыл бұрын
You did it right! Chain saws are pretty easy to fix. The only real concern is if the crank snout is OK on the PTO side of the motor. The 36 is a good saw and if it still runs, its worth fixing. New clutch, new bearing, new sprocket, new oil pump, new oil pump eccentric, new oil hose/oiler, new e-clip and washer. Buy all aftermarket parts except the bearings is my MO for an older saw as Stihl factory bearings are better quality. Make sure you grease the pilot bearing for the clutch drum once or twice a year depending on how much your using it.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Good info! Thanks Corwin!
@cmiller6352
@cmiller6352 Жыл бұрын
For my 4 and 2 stroke gear, I switched from premium unleaded to ethanol free unleaded when it became available here. That and Sta-Bil keeps things running well.
@gtuttle4
@gtuttle4 Жыл бұрын
I have a Stihl 032 that I bought in 1985 and it still runs great! The only things that I have replaced is chains, one bar, and air filter. I heated my house with wood for 11 years and cut my own wood. The old Stihls are much better built!
@thess518
@thess518 Жыл бұрын
Neal, I have been a Stihl dealer (tech, manager, salesman) for 32 years. I currently work for a JD dealer in NC. If I can help with knowledge, or anything else feel free to reach out. I’ll be happy to give you my contact info.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Awesome! I appreciate that very much!
@unclealansyard5176
@unclealansyard5176 Жыл бұрын
I have 4 saws. Three stihls , 015L MS 251, and a MS 400. and a husqvarna 51 that I rebuilt. I got it for $40 bucks on Facebook that I knew it was blown. I didn't know anything about rebuilding a saw but it was worth it. My newest saw is the 400 and I really really enjoy it. My older husqvarna that I rebuilt I used OEM parts except for the carb. The carb was $25 Amazon. So far I havnt blown it up yet. Lol I use the husqvarna for the dirty wood I have to cut. Plus I use 45: to 1 in all my saws.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
That's a nice collection of nice saws. Sounds perfect.
@bobpurs
@bobpurs Жыл бұрын
Nice job Neil. I do use aftermarket parts sometimes depending what it is. Its hard not to use OEM and struggle with that also.
@outdoorsman812
@outdoorsman812 Жыл бұрын
Tip for removing that clutch drive off the crank. Take a long shoe lace and let it down into the spark plug hole and leave the end hanging out. Acts as a nice cushion stop for the piston to keep the crank from rotating
@kennydillon7635
@kennydillon7635 Жыл бұрын
Should've put a little grease on that bearing cage that goes in the drum sprocket or at very least some oil, a little lubrication goes a long way to help preserve parts. Just my two cents.. the 036 is a great saw, mine is still going strong with a little preventative maintenance now and then.
@chrisw7551
@chrisw7551 Жыл бұрын
The great thing about something that is broke is when you go to fix it, well you can't make it much worse haha glad to see I'm not the only one who sends springs and snap rings across the shop!
@litewatefitr
@litewatefitr Жыл бұрын
Glad you revived the old girl. They are lovely saws. If you ever wanna upgrade and send it down the road, hit me up. I've had three of em, and they've all been solid runners. Nice work man!
@cmk3282
@cmk3282 Жыл бұрын
Aftermarket parts are hit or miss, one suggestion would be to use the oem stihl clutch springs and oiler gear. They will last alot longer
@curtanderson8655
@curtanderson8655 Жыл бұрын
Hate to say but I had said that I'd never get rid of my 038 magnum, not long after we were cutting down some trees and the tip of the tree hit it. Broke fins on the cylinder, Gas and oil tank had holes, and other parts were bent to the point of no return. Next up 500i and I love it. If you get a 500i you might want to try a skip tooth chain. We found it easier to buy chain by the roll and put them together ourselves. Just a thought and thank you for everything. The big on line store that has everything has rolls, chain brakers and a way to make it to length. Thanks again.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Those 500is sure are tempting!
@curtanderson8655
@curtanderson8655 Жыл бұрын
@@digdrivediy got one of our sons a ms3 something and then he got to use the 500i. Now he wants it bad. It just has a lot more power then his but it does cost to play
@terrypomatto907
@terrypomatto907 Жыл бұрын
I agree with your decision about the use of after market products. You have better than a 50/50 chance that you will get several more years of service.
@zachdobbs7810
@zachdobbs7810 Жыл бұрын
I have an 028WB my dad gave me a couple years ago that he bought in 1985. Old enough it doesn't have a chain break. Dad says he's only put a bar and some chains on it and believes it still has the stock spark plug in it and he's used it a lot since he's built our farm and heated with wood every winter. If it ever breaks I'll probably need to do something like this just to keep it running for sentimental value.
@farmerkevin
@farmerkevin Жыл бұрын
I'm sure thousands of your viewers have had the same trials and tribulations on their projects as you did on this job. Nice job!
@leedun7
@leedun7 Жыл бұрын
Great video, Neil. I jump into things I don't know about too once in a while. They usually work out, but not always. Glad I'm not the only one 🙂
@bigchuckyinkentucky6267
@bigchuckyinkentucky6267 Жыл бұрын
The answer is very clear, in my opinion. Several years ago I was facing exactly the same problem as you now face. So I asked an expert. My local, retired, Stihl mechanic. His answer? Which do you prefer, plastic or metal? Your "old" saw is made up of mostly metal parts. I believe from the video that even the side cover that you take off first is cast aluminum. He pointed out that on the newer models, anything that could possibly be made from plastic is. This of course makes the saw lighter and therefore cheaper to manufacture. Again, in my opinion and his, the old saws are built stronger and more durable. Absolutely not lighter but your old saw has proven what it can do already. Spend the money and know what you've got. Don't bet on the plastic.
@michaelthomas788
@michaelthomas788 Жыл бұрын
I rebuilt my Stihl chainsaw was new cylinder new crank new rod new piston new rings cost me way less than what you spent I just ordered my parts off of eBay they are genuine steel parts saw still runs great so I was locked up when I went to no issues since rebuilding and I upgraded from 28 to 32 cc's no lies I spent $38 from steel cutting out the middle man helps a lot
@darcyscott2406
@darcyscott2406 Жыл бұрын
Nice job Neil. I think I would’ve done the same thing you did! The price of a new saw today is pretty high. You spent $250 but you saved at least $750, the ms500i are in the $1700 to $1900 dollar range crazy! Maybe someday Stihl will give you one? 🤞 From Northwestern Vermont.
@mm88swrt
@mm88swrt Жыл бұрын
Caused by the most overlooked part of maintenance. Grease your clutch drum bearings! Luckily the parts you need shouldn't be that much if you go aftermarket. But get an oem bearing. That's the most important part
@v26224
@v26224 Жыл бұрын
The clutch you were sent will work. Stihl had several different sets of components depending on the age of the saw. the larger bearing, and sprocket was introduced to not only increase durability of those parts but also make parts interchangeable with its larger brothers the 044 and 046. the drum looks to be off a Husqvarna saw. likely the wrong drum got paired up with the right clutch. Best place for parts is either HL supply or Farmertec
@carlfondelheitiii2742
@carlfondelheitiii2742 Жыл бұрын
Neil, Good job on the rebuild. I run Stihl Chain saw's as well. They always have done the job well for me. Carl FONDEROSA FARMS MD
@wallyzworld7108
@wallyzworld7108 Жыл бұрын
Get a grease pump for the bar tip and the needle bearing in the clutch. I don't know if the Stihl has a port or not for the needle bearing. Some saws have a port at the end of the crank shaft so you can use a grease pump to lube the bearing without removing the clutch assembly. Couple of pumps every three or four tanks for the clutch bearing. Are you flipping your bar over to get even wear? Should be doing this occasionally. If the saw tends to wander in the cut left or right you may need to "square" the bar back up, one rail is higher than the other side.
@garciafamilyfarms
@garciafamilyfarms Жыл бұрын
I just did the exact same repair to my old 038! I took it to my local dealer and they wanted $700 for the repair or $489 for the part. I only paid 200 for the saw off marketplace 6 yrs ago. I could not justify that expense. So I went to ebay and spent $54 on everything I needed. Even offered a discount on a 24" chain! Needless to say, I'm up and running and throwing sawdust again for less than $100!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Man, that's great!!!
@SenorBeanGrouse
@SenorBeanGrouse Жыл бұрын
Similar failure on my MS391. The Stihl parts are ridiculously expensive and weren’t even available. They price them to push you towards a new saw. I went with Amazon stuff and it works perfectly for less than 1/8th the cost.
@BG-vq9fd
@BG-vq9fd Жыл бұрын
I love Lee's. Good to see he is still above ground. I'm ashamed I have not been in there in many years. I assume it was his daughter behind the counter. I think my last purchase there was a Honda 1132 tracked snow blower. Lee personally helped me stuff it into the back of my Suburban. I have always used high test gasoline. I have an old residential Stihl the little thing just keeps on running. I think I have replaced the bar twice, oil pump, clutch bell & bearing x2, and many chains.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
It's always great to see Lee still in there. He must be over 90 I'm sure. His daughter and his granddaughter helped me on the two visits I had that week. Those kinda places are going away quickly around here.
@ShainAndrews
@ShainAndrews Жыл бұрын
I used to work in a farm supply store. The new machines are nice........ but..... guys have a hell of a time with the new start procedure that MUST be followed. Man for a while there I felt like I was running Stihl operating seminars. They would bring in their saw claiming it won't start. I'd have them start it they way they always have. Let them flood it. Tell them they flooded it then prove it by pulling the spark plug to show them. Then show them how to clear a flood condition. The new stuff packs more power per pound. Just have to get out of the choke the first time it hits and you will never have an issue starting one.
@erikowren7894
@erikowren7894 Жыл бұрын
Blast from the past, used to service my 36 and 42 back in my FS days. Yea, good times.
@gabrielchristopher9625
@gabrielchristopher9625 Жыл бұрын
I think you made the right call. Stihl still makes a great saw. But that generation of Stihl’s are the pinnacle of performance and reliability. IMHO. Don’t know if they will ever make a better saw
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Maybe it's my bias, but it just seems like mechanical things from the 90's are all pretty good. Just before computers took control of every component, yet refined enough to be good performers and reliable. That's a good topic of discussion!
@joebacarella2829
@joebacarella2829 Жыл бұрын
My 15.5 hp brigg and stratton carb took a crap on my riding mower, I didn`t want to spend the $140 for the oem replacement, so I bought a cheap China replacement for $26, popped it on and it would not run right, hardly idle no top end speed, it worked but it wasn`t right. My buddy said spend the money and buy the briggs, we popped it on in 15 minutes, and it ran like a top. I learned a lesson, you did a nice fix, it might run for 20 more years, or maybe 20 days, it`s hit or miss. the standard on steel, and heat treating or other things, does not meet our standards most of the time, and they are built in poor standard, little sweat shops for pennies on the dollar, it`s hit or miss, you may have hit, my friend. good luck to ya, love the videos.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Very true. Hopefully that oil pump holds up.
@MyClutteredGarage
@MyClutteredGarage Жыл бұрын
Hey Neil. Sometimes it’s not economical to put a lot of money into an old piece of equipment. I would have done the same thing. Imagine what it would have cost to have the dealer repair it.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Oh yeah for sure. They would have had me walking out with a new one really quickly. But I'd still have been smiling I suppose 😂
@MyClutteredGarage
@MyClutteredGarage Жыл бұрын
@@digdrivediy I bet it’s still not too far in your future. You got your moneys worth out of that saw! 😄
@dab.
@dab. Жыл бұрын
Well done! How does the log store numbering system work?
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
That's just moisture reading from when I stacked it.
@johntaylor8895
@johntaylor8895 Жыл бұрын
I've had good luck with aftermarket carbs but for everything else I try to use OEM. There are a lot of guys on ebay parting out saws and other equipment that have either been dropped from up high or straight-gassed. I loved to support my local dealer but some of the parts prices are crazy.
@stevenpaisley7209
@stevenpaisley7209 Жыл бұрын
I did a top end in a 044 for about $60 canadain fro farmtec! Don't be in a hurry though about 4 weeks for delivery
@jeanvaljohn3921
@jeanvaljohn3921 Жыл бұрын
You did great, you probably saved $130.00 by taking on the task yourself. Way ahead of the game. Numerous other wood yarders on Y.T. encourage the use of a second saw. Chris uses a full tank of gas in #1 then let's it rest while he goes through another tank of gas in saw #2, and so on. You deserve a new saw , I say get'er done. Great to know you don't slack in the P.P. E.. Good job on another fine presentation.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Thank you Jean!
@jeanvaljohn3921
@jeanvaljohn3921 Жыл бұрын
@@digdrivediy you are welcome
@minutemanmac
@minutemanmac Жыл бұрын
Probably was the best decision over new. I have rebuilt a few of my saw with aftermarket parts after seeing the sticker shock on a new one. I think they run just as well as they did new.
@blackdogexcavator21
@blackdogexcavator21 Жыл бұрын
I got a saw that old from a guy that was going to throw it away and it needed some serious TLC. I didn't really need the saw, but I hated to see it thrown away. I thought, well, if I buy some cheaper aftermarket parts and use it for a little while, I would at least get my money's worth out of it. I got a carburetor, chain oiler pump, and a clutch and installed all the new parts. Turns out those parts have been pretty much bullet proof. I've used that saw way more than I thought I would, and it's been really reliable. I think this makes about 7 years that I have owned that saw. I can't say that if I was making my living with that saw I would have taken the risk with aftermarket parts, but so far I have been pleasantly surprised. PS: I was yelling at the screen for you to hold your hand over the c clip so it wouldn't get yeeted across the shop. Lol. Thanks for sharing.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Well it's good to hear report like that on some aftermarket parts in a saw in a longevity of experienced. I'm glad you got a kick out of that snap ring departure. I should know better!!! It's more entertaining when I don't though 😋
@redneckgarage17O819
@redneckgarage17O819 7 ай бұрын
Im a stihl mechanic and i run an 036 from 1995 i bought from work totaled and put new crankshaft bearing in, they are one of the best saws stihl has made in my opinion and ill gladly spend some money to keep mine going, tho i will say from what i could see in the video you probably could have gotten away with reusing that oil pump, just replace the hose Also concerned about the prices they quoted you for the new clutch cuz in the shop i work at those cost less then 50 euro, loved the video tho, keep up the great work
@ErictheAmateur
@ErictheAmateur Жыл бұрын
You’re a brave man, digging into a chainsaw. I think I’d rather rebuild a flathead Ford lol. Good job, and helpful video 👍🏻
@mikeduwe
@mikeduwe Жыл бұрын
I have really taken a break from garden tractors and focused on chainsaws in the last few years. I have had TONS of saws recently, 036 was one of my favorites, outcut my 362c and my buddies muffler mod 361.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
That's good to hear it can stand with the newer saws still. Thanks Mike!
@2naturesownplace
@2naturesownplace Жыл бұрын
There are two Stihl dealers in my hometown. One is with a John Deere dealership the other a rental place. The stihl parts at the rental place then John Deere. Even more cost-effective through Rural King
@iowafox2206
@iowafox2206 Жыл бұрын
When you buy quality, take care of it and maintain it stuff will last you for a long time. I've found this out and love seeing it on your channel!
@SLOCLMBR
@SLOCLMBR Жыл бұрын
The 500i is a good saw.. I like the 462 also. To use as it comes, and not touch, I would probably consider the 500 and fix the 036. Cheap parts are a good way to get a saw back going. Nothing wrong with working equipment
@scottsoper
@scottsoper Жыл бұрын
I never thought of using premium gas. That might of made the difference on some of my 2 cycle small engines in the past. How much time did it take to repair the saw? Glad you got it going!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Overall it probably took a total of 4 hours. I could do it again in an hour maybe since I know how it comes apart now.
@KingsOutdoorLife
@KingsOutdoorLife Жыл бұрын
No chance I would have figured that one out. I'm impressed. Its a good thing we enjoy tinkering otherwise we would have to value our time then it would be a very costly repair😜.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
That's exactly right! I don't pay myself very well 😂
@jimsworthow531
@jimsworthow531 Жыл бұрын
Did you put long fiber grease on the clutch bearing? They burn out fast dry.
@KampsKorner
@KampsKorner Жыл бұрын
I wanted to buy oem parts when I was re doing my 660. Until I looked at the prices haha. I ended up using aftermarket parts. Almost 2 years and so far so good.
@Jam818
@Jam818 Жыл бұрын
Check out Chickanic. She does a great job of explaining the how to's on small engine repair. I would've definitely done what you did. Great job getting her going again. Run it until she won't go any more.
@blackweed3078
@blackweed3078 Жыл бұрын
After watching this full video and watching your skills come alive with provided parts even if it took a while you've missed your calling you are way more inclined to fix things than most others keep up the great work it makes a difference to those that cannot have a good one 😀
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Wow, thanks! Appreciate you watching!
@rileyjohnston8393
@rileyjohnston8393 Жыл бұрын
Stihl changed from the small clutch bearing to the larger one some time in the early 2000’s on those saws because the small ones do exactly what happened to you, blow apart and wreak havoc. Worth spending the money for the updated style Stihl clutch drum, 036 is one of the best saws Stihl ever made.
@911greatscott
@911greatscott Жыл бұрын
It sucks (sometimes) but ALWAYS buy OEM parts. The tolerances are typically better and you can’t argue with the longevity. We’ve all done the same thing…think we can get by with mediocre parts. The frustration alone and rework is worth it. Great video! Valuable lessons/reminders for everyone!
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb
@ArthurDentZaphodBeeb Жыл бұрын
Done the "doesn't look too hard to fix, I'll do it myself' way too often. And usually regretted the time I wasted on research and tracking down parts. It's no coincidence that OEM parts are so expensive - they want you to buy a new product, not keep parts for old models in inventory for decades.
@MarkJohnson-pm6cx
@MarkJohnson-pm6cx Жыл бұрын
Good job, I just don't know if I would have the patience to do that!!! I give you a lot of credit for going after it. The cost of everything has gotten ridiculous, you almost have to flip a coin to determine what way you go on repair things. Nice job Neil...
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@kevndo
@kevndo Жыл бұрын
I’m impressed that saw has lasted that long with little maintenance. Why do you have the ends of the firewood numbered in the firewood pile?
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
I marked the moisture on the ends when I stacked it in there to see how much it dries in a short time.
@davehenderson47240
@davehenderson47240 Жыл бұрын
Great video, glad to see the old saw saved!!
@manuelve1998
@manuelve1998 Жыл бұрын
A comparable saw would be the 400 which is pricey. I have the 362 and like it a lot. I would buy the same saw if I could find one and use it for parts. If not then aftermarket parts have always worked for me.
@aaronabbott9568
@aaronabbott9568 Жыл бұрын
Another great video amazing that Lee is still there.
@calebmiller1875
@calebmiller1875 Жыл бұрын
Lee is such a cool guy!
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
Yes it is amazing that he still works out there every day.
@jamesedwards6269
@jamesedwards6269 Жыл бұрын
As a fellow cheapskate, instead of buying a stihl I bought a Holzforrma G366 which is an 036 clone. I run a 28” bar and skip tooth chain for about $275 for everything. It’s hard to drop 900 on a 362 then $150 on the bar and chain. I have used it for 4-5 month so far and am happy with it.
@digdrivediy
@digdrivediy Жыл бұрын
That doesn't sound like a bad deal at all.
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