Google Alters Split Screening Ahead of Pixel Fold 2 Launch, One Big Questions Remains

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[@Seanmmvi]

I'm firmly seated on the Pixel Fold 2 hype train

[@FuzeFyreGreenFerret]

Same here!

[@NedalHanna]

I would too but I just cannot fathom why are they moving to the taller ratio :/

[@Seanmmvi]

@@NedalHanna because it's awesome!

[@NedalHanna]

@@Seanmmvi why? How?

[@Seanmmvi]

@@NedalHanna because the original pixel fold was too short and fat.

[@nickthaskater]

5:18 it should simply be "you have a large screen" rather than looking at whether it's wider than it is tall. Tablet mode for apps should be available in both portrait and landscape on large screen devices. Hardcoding orientation as the trigger for tablet mode interface was stupid on Google's part.

[@NedalHanna]

I kind of disagree on this... It's quite arguable*; that's why I would give an option in each app s settings whether to use tablet layout or phone layout, cos both point of view are valid...

[@nickthaskater]

@@NedalHanna in the absence of an explicit option, the tablet interface should be orientation agnostic when unfolded on a large screen.

[@elho001]

No, making it depend on screen size makes no sense. Reason to get a larger screen device despite the higher cost and worse pocketability is to have apps show their content bigger/more of it, not smaller/less because the app decides to waste the extra screen estate on some auxiliary stuff you do not care about. Worse, whereever the point is, above which a screen is considered large, you had slightly larger devices showing the main part of apps about half the size (in a pane) than slightly smaller ones do (fullscreen). With the aspect ratio, you can at least choose by rotating. (And on almost square screens like the OnePlus Fold there is no other change.) Case study: The KZbin app. I can conveniently read and write comments on a tablet in the non-split portrait mode only. In landscape split mode, the comments are crammed into the tiny sidebar using one quarter of the screen, three quarters showing things one does not care about (if one wanted to see those things, one would not have tabbed on comments in the first place). Yes, ideally each app with split mode would have a setting like always on/always off/on in landscape, but I am not daring to hope for that.

[@NedalHanna]

@@nickthaskater I fully understand your point... I just need the option in each app settings cos personally I _sometimes_ prefer the phone layout.

[@dennan4]

I wasnt aware of this shortcoming never having used a Pixel Fold, but I am blowed away by it.

[@scaryifliteral]

I don't think many people wanted to top/bottom split on a landscape tablet, so it never gets talked about.

[@mstree9985]

Train tickets too expensive for me.

[@FuzeFyreGreenFerret]

i get early upgrades through AT&T. I'm probably gonna get the Pixel Fold 2

[@bad65dad]

I like the way Google doing the split screen on my Pixel Fold. Plus I never turn mine in a narrow orientation it's better just opening it as is . The wider the better for split screen like my S8+ landscape is better for split screen.

[@alexflores7652]

To be quite honest I would not mind getting all Google products only if my financials would actually allow for it. I actually like the Pixel Fold for its unique look and functionality. But also I would like to also jump both feet into their ecosystem from earbuds to the tablet.

[@alexogle8950]

I know I say this each time, but this could all be resolved by using screens with a root 2 ratio. Rotating the front screen produces two halves that are still 1.414:1; opening the device produces a larger screen that is effectively two portrait screens at 1:1.414 or one landscape at 1.414:1. The proportions and app scaling are consistent and app designers and UI don't have to make all these 'decisions'.

[@FoxyDrew]

As a custom ROM dev for the OnePlus Open this makes things a lot better for AOSP based ROMs like Lineage or PixelOS ROMs. Welcome change in my books reguardless of what Google releases.

[@aliettienne2907]

5:43 I unequivocally prefer the split screen to be retained with whatever screen size it is on. The split screen feature shouldn't be restricted to one screen orientation or dimension it should be made to work versatile.

[@CF542]

The big conundrum for me is; wait for the Z-Fold 6 or wait longer for the Pixel Fold 2.

[@beyondview]

wait

[@kyhassen]

I got rid of my Fold 4 for a iPhone 15 Pro Max just to change it up a bit. I did that because I had the fold 3 and got the fold 4 only because the trade in deal was just so good. The fold 5 and NOW the fold 6 doesn’t peak my interest. Not much is changing at all between each generation to make upgrading worth it. The Pixel Fold 2 however is catching my eye.

[@CF542]

​@@kyhassenI'll agree with you on the Samsung phones. I hope the Pixel Fold rumors are true, it looks good

[@NaKkA83]

Hahaha I'll go for fold 2 and pray zfold6 is not better...

[@NaKkA83]

I never noticed the split screen per orientation but I think it is super smart...

[@jebaker2]

With regard to the Pixel Fold Pro Fold, your second topic is what I am REALLY hoping Google does correctly. I’m so used to the “dual panel” and will hate losing that, if we do.

[@NizarNoor]

I'm not interested in any new Fold phones if they're bigger than the original Pixel Fold. Pixel Fold size is perfect. The aspect ratios when closed and open are perfect.

[@user-kx7iz6qk6b]

No point of getting Fold. Stick with candy bar then.

[@quincor]

I am in love with my O+O

[@Buglardons]

Chinese phone not very ethically nor responsibly the correct choice

[@quincor]

@@Buglardons sure

[@quincor]

@@Buglardons apart from everything made in china

[@hawajuzaila]

Great video Shane. Where possible, can you please do a similar review with landscape mode display (for 2 apps) on Pixel Fold 9 (and whether it has similad functionality to say Samsung's Goodlock).

[@illbet4589]

Pixel fold would be nice with a stylus.

[@lionintu]

For me its useless without a stylus

[@hasseygolf]

I was surprised that the Gfold doesn't let you preview on the front screen when videoing w the phone open, like the Zfold can... weird.

[@thetruthstand]

It is so Google for them to change the one differentiator that all of the early adopters of the device really liked. I like the fact that on the front it's a smartphone that opens up into a landscape miniature tablet. I believe almost every other foldable starts off as a slender portrait smartphone and then opens up to just be a wider portrait smartphone. I think Google overreacted to the love that the OnePlus open received from KZbin. They should have kept the current form factor and just improved the other things that needed to be improved. I don't like the fact that this device is going to look similar to every other foldable. They need to keep their differentiator.

[@morgenmicha]

I would like my Z Fold 5 to split at the big display above and below because it's higher than wide. really don't understand why they do it standard left and right.

[@reasonabledictator8993]

Im glad I got my fold 5. Didnt know pixel was like this

[@boxingtherapy87]

appreciate the information brother. I am holding out on these folds. Samsung ain't doing it for me right now. Definitely looking at the pixel fold 2 or the one plus open 2

[@LordCommandor]

Four years later I'm still enjoying both of my $2000 Samsung z folds 1&2 and they are still enjoying me. $4000 in fold devices and I'm so done.....#nopointstoprove.

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

The dual pane UI should work in both orientations if the device allows it. For now pixel trends to use portrait UI(phone) because there is not enough space for both panes to show up perfectly. Another thing, I will like to see desktop UI over dual pane because in a bigger screen it doesn't make sense to get dual pane with less information over desktop UI.

[@scaryifliteral]

The developer in question who doesn't allow it is Google though lol

[@hilmyakatsuki1665]

@@scaryifliteral yeah it's funny that are trying to keep the good UI scalability on apps. They also tried to keep the desktop mode UI for chrome os only. why not allow that for bigger tablet so that more apps optimize properly.

[@eemotionCoUk]

Still no news of pop up windows :(

[@mattytwotimess]

I'm so conflicted about the pixel fold 2. The aspect ratio is a huge draw to me and idk if it's worth sticking with when I upgrade when they change it.

[@statendrei5]

Ive always lowkey liked the intro jingle

[@docregsportsmd]

I still think having an e-ink screen is a good option for foldables

[@BradLR]

Such a disappointment. The original Pixel had a perfect aspect ratio. Opening it to landscape made so much sense. It's the whole reason I want to get rid of my Galaxy Fold 5 (aside from the cameras).

[@Costar1982]

I hope they keep that

[@carriegreicar4978]

For me i excited for the taller phone. I hated the short one

[@Costar1982]

@@carriegreicar4978 the short one was dope to me ...an the fact that it's wider made you not depend on opening it all the time... I mean you make it taller an you get another galaxy fold

[@PCMediK]

Outlook also loses dual pane upon rotation.

[@scaryifliteral]

Just checked, outlook is dual pane on my Open.

[@Anonymous-pm7jf]

Google phones rarely live up to the hype. There is always some major flaw that kills the experience.

[@sakuraistrash2much]

i heard pixel fold 2 is 10.5mm when folded and 5.2mm when unfolded ?is it true?

[@pattycarljackson]

I don’t want google to go the Samsung route, they have too many features and settings for settings for more settings it’s just too much and unnecessary.

[@kankantona9070]

didnt know Pixel Fold cannot change split-screen orientation. thats a big miss

[@scaryifliteral]

I'll just say the reason no one seems to know this was a thing is because no one missed it lol. Imagine splitting two apps horizontally on that screen.

[@METAx55]

It's easier to build additions onto a house than to build the house itself.

[@paragpatel3441]

What icon pack is on one plus open?

[@scaryifliteral]

Australis

[@paragpatel3441]

Thank you 👍

[@NedalHanna]

Unfortunately Google cannot be themselves if they don't make a horrendous decision that doesn't make sense whatsoever!!! Why on earth are they moving to a taller ratio ugh

[@user-kx7iz6qk6b]

Because it's better

[@carriegreicar4978]

Idk I like it. I loved my pixel fold but was too short for me

[@NedalHanna]

I think I understand the controversy now... People who are happy with the change are people who focus more on the outer screen... People who are unhappy are the ones focused on the inner screen

[@damonquebeans]

Which phone do you use more the Pixel fold or the OnePlus open

[@scaryifliteral]

Lately it's been close to 50/50

[@naa7523]

Thanks for This! I have a question. How MANY Apps IS It Possible Yo Have Open AT THE SAME TIME ON Fold Pones? Is It ONLY 2? OR Do SOME Phones Have MORE Than 2 Apos Open AT The Same Time. AND IF SO, Which Phones ARE They? Thanks in advance.

[@scaryifliteral]

Pixel fold can do two. Z Fold and OnePlus Open can do 3.

[@RetroRushX]

Shane do you think the Pixel Fold will get even better once the second one drops or will it get left behind?

[@scaryifliteral]

It will continue to get updates and new features, but at a reduced rate.

[@Clippers0507]

Android has been, for like the past seven years or so, has just been Samsung doing their thing and then Google adding it two gens later. So crazy how lazy they are about feature-rich stuff.

[@scaryifliteral]

Samsung has certainly pioneered some features, but Android has not been just that at all lol

[@bassyey]

lol yeah. Google Android team is just waiting for Samsung's team. What a disaster. Every time I watch Pixel update videos my reaction is always "that's new?"

[@jam_2315]

Question Shane.....so is the pixel fold when open and turned the same size as the one plus open and soon to be pixel fold 2?

[@scaryifliteral]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/eHy4fXmIa7CWaZo

[@majtechtings]

I'll enjoy this feature when i use my pixel fold...until the pixel fold 2 comes out and i jokingly look at the pixel fold in disgust until the 2 is in my hands lol.

[@mohammeds9915]

Those fat inner bezels...*shudders*.

[@nafeeahnaf6296]

Pixel ui is still mediocre at multitasking, split screen only works with recently opened apps you can't just choose any app like Samsung instantly or even do pop up windows, Google is always so late to catch up

[@scaryifliteral]

You can choose any app using the task bar on the Pixel Fold or Tablet.

[@AndrewTSq]

I am thinking Google's UI designers for Android never done UI before. Just so many irritating things, latest is the chat bubbles.. who thought that was a good idea?.

[@ChunkyLoverMark]

Facebook did, Google had to incorporate it into Android because of how big Facebook Messenger is.

[@JediSteele]

I keep a bubble/bubbles up all the time. Rarely ever do I swipe them away.

[@mackmccord3743]

​@@JediSteele same here. It was one of the best things they could've done for messages. Your messages are literally there all the time or when you need them! ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[@FedDonovan]

Wider is better ...so sad..Google implementation is better ...who want that candy design...so sad they are going with what everyone is doing ....

[@gamefandotnet]

I want one of those so bad but I'm also poor so there it is I won't have one LOL

[@NarutoUzumaki-pi7cw]

Where did u get the wallpaper from?

[@scaryifliteral]

Made the Pixel one, Backdrops for the Open

[@RedShadow166]

are you going to get the Galaxy Z Fold 6 🙂

[@scaryifliteral]

Undecided

[@georgeirvingnormaniii3291]

Nice

[@Markus56165]

Can't do a Pixel Fold until they move from Samsung chips to TSMC. So, Fold 3?

[@cooliipie]

Down stock is really trash. Still no gallery app too? 😂

[@ashurafreedan]

if you cant beat them join them and if you still cant beat them, this will be the last pixel fold

[@RJ_Uploads]

I hate that they joined them, the original pixel fold is a great design in my opinion, but I will take a look at the new one, but if all fails I will just get the pixel 9 pro and keep my original pixel fold