Google Is Bleeding Users (& Is Desperately Pivoting)

[@theworddoner]

My issue with google consumer products is that they are way too fickle. There's no point in investing time with most of google's products because chances are that they will discontinue it themselves.

[@debkr]

Absolutely

[@akin242002]

Yep! I liked their Google+ social media. It became a good community for economic discussions and football fanatics, especially allowing memes & GIFs. Unfortunately, they gave up on it because it had slow growth instead of rapid growth.

[@d3xmeister]

Unfortunately, is the same with their business platform. It’s a nightmare, you can’t count on anything, even when you pay a lot of money.

[@green_universe]

i agree with this point. This why i was refrained from using Firebase.

[@ChiragNayyar91]

😂🤣

[@SsvbxxYT]

An extra bit of info: Google Sites launched back in 2008 and was widely praised; then, in 2016, Google updated it and it was very bland and had a lot less features. When the old version was discontinued in 2021, many people, instead of using new Sites, switched to alternative website builders. It's not just that Google is launching flops left and right; it's also that Google doesn't listen to its community and makes changes that ruin its successful products (KZbin is no exception, unfortunately).

[@Jake28]

Exactly this. I use Github pages now, just because google sites is so limited.

[@qwertykeyboard5901]

Dont forget the awful ui changes!

[@bruce-le-smith]

I do miss old KZbin

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@qwertykeyboard5901fr, its an eye sore

[@Mahlak_Mriuani_Anatman]

​@@bruce-le-smithsame man

[@outhouse.wholesaler]

Remember when they tried to jumpstart Google+ by making it mandatory to use to interact on KZbin?

[@jasonkoroma4323]

God i hated that.

[@Oroborus710]

I remember that bs, at that time I just created a secondary Google+ channel that was connected with my KZbin account still, and just never used the Google+ profile. Google+ is so useless lol

[@rathersane]

I think that may be exactly what killed Google+

[@jhoughjr1]

I remember starting to use it and then they killed it

[@StefanReich]

Google+ lacked fundamental features. It had no private message system

[@mathew5162]

My biggest problem with Google is a lot of it's existing products get updated to benefit businesses and advertisers and make the experience fare less user-friendly for a normal consumer. Google make some great products, but then also kill them off not long after because of low traffic or poor revenue, they don't give the products chance to breathe or to be developed to a high enough standard to beat the competition, which I think is the reason people don't really take new Google products seriously, because people are just expecting it to be cancelled within the next year. Stadia is their biggest flop, yes it was a money pit, but developers were only just beginning to sink their teeth into it before their abrupt cancellation.

[@irregulargamer1352]

And these products just feel like a side project. something that's not taken seriously. Why am I going to buy something from a company that's barely concerned with the product I'm buying when I can go with a company who's main focus is in that product? like their pixel earbuds, even if I had a pixel phone why would I not just go with jbl or bose who are clearly more focused on audio products. Hell even jvc would be a better choice for something made with care for the consumer

[@mathew5162]

@@irregulargamer1352Exactly, it just doesn't make sense

[@kosmosXcannon]

Publishers would have killed to have something like Stadia. It would have given them more control over their products. Then again, if it had truly taken off, then they can no longer blame piracy for a loss of sales. How would one pirate something if the game was being streamed instead?

[@memyselfandi8544]

My biggest problem is they are New World Order Devil worshippers.

[@lucemiserlohn]

This process is called enshittification, you can look up Cory Doctorow's talks about that.

[@TriglycerideBeware]

I can't believe you didn't mention Stadia in the big list of failures lmao

[@LogicallyAnswered]

True hahaha

[@guncolony]

Stadia was genuinely good. Their big mistake was not supporting PC games. If they simply bundled a cloud service that lets you run PC games into their premium subscription, Stadia would have done a lot better.

[@That-JC]

Well, it *was* mentioned at 01:08 :)

[@TriglycerideBeware]

@@That-JC you're right 😅 Pay no mind to the funny little "(edited)" in my comment header from where I got to that part and had to add "in the big list of failures" to my comment 😛

[@That-JC]

@@TriglycerideBeware Upon your request, my ignorance knows no bounds :) Also: Nice cat.

[@AljRest]

I perceive Google as a company that is quick to surrender on every endeavor.

[@burgerbobbelcher]

@mipmipmipmipmipMeta would probably be north korea. Still riding on successes from decades ago, failures and whiny lashings-out ever since, because no one takes them seriously as a tech-innovator anymore.

[@jensenraylight8011]

and now, they completely removed their Growth engine, and add more nuisance into their existing products, hoping that people won't notice or switching into another product. what did they expect?

[@burgerbobbelcher]

@@jensenraylight8011 The fact that they spent over a billion on the idiotic metaverse is all the evidence one needs to see what a company losing its mind looks like.

[@davideographer4410]

Google is arguably the champion of bait and switch; lure customers in for a too-good-to-be-true deal, and then slap a hefty price tag on the product, or discontinue it entirely. Remember the unlimited storage that Google Photos used to offer, before they one day decided to cancel the "unlimited" part and treat it as normal Google Drive storage? Stuff like this makes Google seem untrustworthy, and that's not even mentioning their aggressive data collecting practices. A classic tale of a company that grew too big for its own good.

[@brodriguez11000]

"Unlimited" is unsustainable regardless of what product it is. Even "unlimited" internet service has limits. Everyone who's tried either backpedals or goes out of business.

[@somnorila9913]

@@brodriguez11000 That's the issue and why he said bait and switch. If it's not sustainable don't advertise that in the first place. Pretty sure you know you can't provide that. But that's your plan, attract people with something good then change the deal.

[@caty863]

@@brodriguez11000 It was clear what the concept of "unlimited" referred to here. They first pre-processed the photo to make it smaller and they had access to the photos to train their machine vision AI models. That's a compromise us, clients, voluntarily made and Google should have sticked with the terms. It now feels it is a betrayal. They used our photos and then when their models become good enough, they left us out to dry. What a bunch of scumbags!

[@sprockkets]

It was always for their location based tagging system, nothing more. When that was satisfied, it was no longer needed. Even then, it's still intact. Everything you uploaded before it changed is still free. That's not to say I like Google. I stopped backing up to them this year because while it is a good product, I'm tired of their crap and Pichai has burned everything to the ground. But really, I don't blame Pichai anymore. Every company does this. It's called capitalism.

[@zerocal76]

@@brodriguez11000 Everyone knows that. There's no infinite, at least not as far as physical resources go. I ditched Chrome a couple years ago. If they start charging for Google Meet I'll ditch gmail too!

[@nerdy_crawfish]

It’s not that developers don’t want simplified products, it’s that most companies don’t want to throw away their existing code (especially when that code is really old and obsolete because the knowledge needed to remake it is long gone). Getting that code working on a new platform always requires dealing with some jank which simplified products can’t accommodate.

[@xr.spedtech]

Google likes to force devs to update to a new API or something like that... I wonder if it's because of java being it's main.

[@davidm8394]

no you are wrong... most companies do not want to spend the money to hire the skilled workers to update their, often rubbish, old code... for most companies as long as it is not broken they WILL NOT FIX IT.. it is criminal how old some code in some the biggest corporations is

[@tapwater424]

@@davidm8394 but why fix it if it's not broken?

[@g.c.4824]

Well that's a bit ominous

[@Ceelbc]

Am I the only one who things that Google's latest products are all half-baked. They look outdated at launch, all products feel slow (like KZbin, Gmail, Chrome, etc), and they are full of bugs. For instance, KZbin music is filled with bugs on Android. Then a year later, they fix it together with a new ui, just to get another bug 1 month later (which they don't fix until next refresh a year later).

[@LungeloShandu]

I feel like they always have been half-baked. Google genuinely got lucky as a company, especially with their search engine and with buying KZbin. That's why they have a hard time creating something new.

[@tek1645]

Good point

[@Kevin-oj2uo]

Bugs and Ads. It fucking sucks start taking out your email from Gmail.

[@KManAbout]

Music is actually really good. Never had problems with it.

[@Winnetou17]

It's not like they know how Android works or how to write code for it. Oh, wait.... But what do you mean slow and Chrome ? Of all the people that still insist on running Chrome instead of Firefox or Brave combined with those that happily ditched Chrome, I heard literally 0 complain about speed. It's either the privacy or some feature that some other browser has (which usually can be had in Chrome too, with extensions, but whatever)

[@ericvulgate]

Their job is to answer the fucking questions we type. When they can't be bothered to do that anymore we leave. Not complicated.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Brutal haha

[@chrimony]

@@LogicallyAnswered Google has left the chat.

[@gabrielgarcia7554]

They want to lower their risk with being over exposed to Google Search and the ad revenue it brings in. Diversifying to cloud based solutions is probably a good idea (at least based on the evidence provided in the video). Only time will tell. Eventually Google Search itself will be usurped by something else or not be sufficient enough to provide the revenue demands of Google.

[@panan7777]

They KNOW they are on the fast track to nowhere: I was asked several questions by Goog, but the main was: How much do you trust search results? I gave them 2 out of 5, barely passing. There are several reasons they WILL tank - They went overboard with paid results, where real hits are buried deep down - They went FAR FAR too left and woke. Typed "family" a few years back and wondered where all the whites went? So now their AI debacle with Black Pope is nothing new. - Filtering the unpleasant result for the left. I have very good memory and there was quite a few times I was NOT being able to find the same information, except put the exact search prompt. They might be saved the same way as twitter. Somebody puts the company back to their place.... They are so deep into this thet it is impossible for them to change fast and deep enough. Next Yahoo....

[@segoiii]

the censorship of google is completely insane nowadays.

[@ashishpj]

Tbh, Google is not actually concerned about their users feelings. They are not even listening. They are only concerned about profit. How fast an awesome company became a soulless corporate giant!

[@quAdxify]

Basically with the founders leaving, greedy managers took over and are now just trying to squeeze out whatever there is to squeeze out.

[@scottdavis3571]

The profit motive destroys everything after a while.

[@gmjackson1456]

Actually they are not making profit because they don't listen to users.

[@quAdxify]

@@gmjackson1456 their users are whoever pays them money. Free-riders are the product, I'm afraid.

[@bogdanpopescu1401]

if they are concerned about profit they should listen; concern for profit is not a good explanation for failure

[@PkGam]

Another big factor is that they change their products so often that they are unreliable or they outright kill them off. The bottom line with both though is their changes are usually for the worse and/or leave people picking up the pieces as they have to rebuild. So people have learned that you might as well just use something else to begin with as it'll be more reliable. In fact, I bet you that nearly everyone has had a extremely negative experience with them at some point. Just think: How many times have they hyped up something that would be the next great thing that everyone should adopt only for them to leave everyone who invested time and/or money into it high and dry when they remove a critical feature or discontinue the whole thing? People try and send them feedback why to not shut something down or why not to make so-and-so bad changes, if they even have a feedback form as oftentimes that is absent (Which should give you a good idea regarding how much they actually care about anything), only to be ignored by them time and time again anyway.

[@michael1345]

Oh yes. I had a problem downloading web pages. After the second or third page it would stop. First I tried various things my end, finding it didn't work. Then I contacted their AI assistant. Didn't help AT ALL. They then put me on an "expert" saying I will get my problem solved but charge me $1.00 but then they slipped in a $76.00 charge to go further, never really talking to someone. Initially it worked, I could download said thank you and ended the "conversation" but AGAIN it stopped afterv 2nd 0r 3rd page. So I reset the Chromebook laptop to factory settings and now works better than it has for a long time. HOWEVER, the kicker is I then got an email saying "thank you for joining our $76.00 monthly subscription!!!!," a company called Howy. I rang and asked if they were affiliated with GOOGLE and they denied it. I asked them to unsubscribe me and they promised to send me an email to confirm, nothing. I then Stopped them at PAYPAL. As far as I can tell, it's a "fine print" scam and I will be contacting our OMBUDSMAN today and report it.

[@uriel123195]

"don't be evil". Once they removed that, a big red flag popped over my head 1:33 .

[@willi1978]

without that, the company is aligned wrong. since the users are not their customers. all other companies still have the user base that hold them to a certain standard

[@user-sw2wv1zx1t]

I think they always were unfortunately, at least the founders from what their beginnings were and who they were actually associated with.

[@jkbobful]

Its a shame Google Fiber stopped expanding it was great for competition

[@brodriguez11000]

Broadband is a capital intensive endeavor, with plenty of push back from established players. e.g. pole rights and municipal broadband laws.

[@twenty-fifth420]

@@brodriguez11000Municipal fiber is the way to go anyway, imagine if Google decided to, instead update their networking equipment and actually do customer service; they launched a dumb game console that used high speed internet in a country with heavily monopolized, entrenched market players that don’t care if America has ‘faster internet’. Yeah, I know that sentence is a mouthful lol. 😂 Point is, yeah we need fiber, but we also need genuine competition. Even if it is from government provided services.

[@BlakeTedKord]

​​@@twenty-fifth420so is Gigafiber coming or not to India and US or not? Just tell me that pls

[@oubrioko]

Google is an *internet* based company. Virtually _every_ single product and service they provide requires internet service. ISP speed increases are inherently good for internet based businesses, especially Google. So, _Google Fiber_ was never intended to be a growth profit center for Google. It was simply a corporate strategy intended to force existing telecommunications and cable ISPs (AT&T, Verizon, Comcast, Spectrum [formerly Time Warner Cable], etc) to increase their internet speeds for customers... and it worked. Before Google Fiber, virtually none of these outlets were offering internet speeds above 350Mbps to residential customers. Today, gigabit and faster speeds are relatively common residential offerings in many major U.S. cities by at least one provider. The Google Fiber service itself is _not_ a big money maker for Google, so don't expect much (if any) future expansions. It is more likely that Google will eventually spin it off as a divestiture, rather than expanding the service to new markets.

[@Pabz2030]

Google 1998: "Do No Evil" Google 2023: "Be the ultimate Agent of the State"

[@panan7777]

LEFTIST

[@pw6002]

State is agent of the big companies. Not the other way round.

[@Pabz2030]

@@pw6002 really they are one and the same these days

[@pw6002]

@@Pabz2030 Money is the key. Always has been. The rest (monarchies, democracies, etc.) have always been a show for the masses.

[@Pabz2030]

@@pw6002 Ah but you have to think that "money" is just the medium by which they extract our real resources from us: Time and Energy. And as you say, they rest is just a big ol' show

[@ABSP5766]

My institution has been using Google services for ages and we were pretty satisfied. Suddenly they changed the terms and tried to charge unreasonably much more. We declined and move to MS. Of course, we know that this is just a temporary solution and we are building our own cloud.

[@willi1978]

onprem is on the rise again. my company still wants to put everything in cloud

[@nicholasvinen]

"our own cloud"... Like... Servers? 😅

[@scottdavis3571]

@@nicholasvinen Yes with their own cloud.

[@InfoSecGuardian]

If resource demands are seasonal, then an On-Prem solution requires a lot of extra processing power that sits idle for most of the year. Public Cloud Service Providers solve this issue, where you only pay for what you use with elastic resources. Additionally, it can be extremely expensive for Corporations to invest in security that reaches FIPS 140-2 Level 2+ guidelines without moving to a CSP. And, if they don't meet the requirements, they loose commercial business. This is why Corporations everywhere are scrambling to move to a Public CSP like AWS, Azure, or OCI.

[@devforfun5618]

if they are remote servers, then it is cloud anyway, just a proprietary cloud@@nicholasvinen

[@1495978707]

Biggest thing that irks me is that they ignore their privacy conscious users. Only a small minority of people are vocal about privacy, but everyone cares about privacy to some degree. For many people, all they’re waiting for to leave Google is an alternative that properly respects privacy. Their ads about blocking spam ring hollow when they’re still incredibly invasive with their data collection for advertising, which is just so unnecessary for how hit and miss it can be with targeting. Not to mention completely shitting the bed with KZbin, same thing there. Only reason people still use it is because the alternatives are still maturing and growing, but that transition is underway now. Open source is continuing to mature, because unlike corporate projects, most open source work can be reused and built on forever, not dying out because some company doesn’t like them anymore. This also is a bulwark against the flaky nature of Google products, never knowing when your favorite workflow will be scrapped

[@watchdealer11]

Despite my family premium membership, The way Alphabet /YT management are treating KZbin pisses me off. De-monetization is so political; they don't try and hide it. All of my fav creators have left for Rumble. Also, deleting comments and removing dislikes.

[@TheBooban]

I also am premium and hate KZbin. The ads drove me to pay. But the other sites are crap. Is rumble actually good?

[@watchdealer11]

@@TheBooban it has enough of the based creators I like that it's worth me using and keeping the app for sure. Interface isn't as good as YT but not much worse.

[@blisphul8084]

And then they wonder why people are leaving for Tiktok. When people complain about China attracting users away from American services, maybe they should question why people are leaving and actually compete.

[@watchdealer11]

@@blisphul8084 yup. When there is less censorship on a CCP app, you've got a massive problem!

[@rollinontheboard]

UBLOCK ORIGIN @@TheBooban

[@davidravnsborg2565]

7:27 This is not true in my experience. Developers don't prefer the more complex options. But AWS and MS Azure had much stronger enterprise sales experience, which led to faster growth. In the long run this led to even better scalability than Google, and more product offerings, which further entrenched them (AWS especially) among companies with massive data needs like Netflix. I love Google App Engine. It's cheap and super easy to deploy. But when management has been sold on another platform, it's not even considered. Management at many places don't know it exists. Nor do many fresh grads who see numerous job postings asking for AWS.

[@yennapallyvamshireddy3590]

Most of devlopers prefer highly customizable options. Few IT admins might even prefer complex options, as it increases their importance.

[@davidravnsborg2565]

@@yennapallyvamshireddy3590 the thing is I can get highly customizable and scalable with something like Google Kubernetes Engine. But I don't usually need that, I just need a web crawler, or an ETL runner, or a build agent. Google App Engine makes it really easy to build and deploy anything like that, and it's cheap.

[@daviddickey9832]

Start running COTS vulnerability scanners on GAE apps and look into what it'll take to remediate those vulnerabilities in GAE and you'll start to have headaches

[@davidravnsborg2565]

@@daviddickey9832 What type of vulnerabilities do you expect GAE to have? Also, I am interested in doing this on one of my automations. Do you have a COTS tool in mind?

[@quAdxify]

GCP is actually pretty decent but only really at scale. For smaller companies, GCP is not a real option.

[@darkhorseman8263]

Maybe they shouldn't have dehumanized their user base and content creators.

[@willi1978]

i think that's a big reason why they are not doing so well. the public image of google is not that good anymore, because they never consider the users (which in turn will make the users think google is bad). So much for dropping "don't be evil".

[@BenCos2018]

​@@willi1978agreed

[@simonl4657]

Remember when you can still skip ads on youtube.... then it was skip ads after 3 secs, then 5 secs, then 2 ads back to back and one ads you had to watch to entirety

[@pramod1591]

This is inhuman

[@me-myself-i787]

OneDrive comes with 1tb storage per person for 6 people (6tb total), plus full access to Office 365, for the same price as 1tb storage with Google One (formerly Google Drive).

[@KameraShy]

Office 365 is a trap. Like all subscriptions.

[@stay_frosty4593]

As a developer, i have written so many of my own libraries just because functionality was non-existend in a public free version, i think customizability and options always should have been there first priority just like AWS. They truly didn't even think to implement the fundementals required....

[@sanjaybhatikar]

I was a vocal advocate for Google Cloud over AWS in my company several years ago. I found developing in Google Cloud intuitive and fun. That was back in the day. Now it takes so much boilerplate code to get anything done that developing is misery. We stayed with Amazon after briefly flirting with Google and are better off for it. Say what you want of Pichai, innovation is not in Google's DNA since he took over.

[@vijaynats]

Picchai looks like Microsoft planted mole lol

[@josho225]

not a fan of gcp either. its an absolute clusterfk

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

All the big 3 clouds are way overpriced for compute and bandwidth.

[@panan7777]

Local SW company owner said: Ask a local guy a question and he will come back with ten possible solutions, ask Indian guy a question and he comes back with 10 questions....

[@jameshughes6078]

Honestly ever since they got rid of 20% time and started killing products/doing the promo project train there's been no innovation

[@anv_bis7287]

My biggest issue with KZbin is it seems like they are run by idiots, I would have videos running and just listen to them once I had free time or doing something that doesn't require focus. Now my major problem is they have a "block ad" button. 95% of the time I see temu ad I block it because I don't see any value in that company and I won't ever shop there, but ofc I still see temu ads every day, so what's the point of "block ad" if it doesn't work. The second major issue, I get ads are part of the business model and I don't mind mostly, for example, give me 2 skip-able ads at the start of the video and 2 at the end, the issue is where you would be listening to a video and then all of a sudden a 3 or 5-minute ad pops up in the middle of the content, no one is going to watch a 3-minute ad or even click on it when it's just a nuisance at that point since you simply want to return to the content you were watching. They could put 5, 5 or 15 seconds non skip-able ads throughout the video and most people wouldn't care because they know the ad will end soon and if they find the ad intriguing they will click on it. But I guess when you are the industry leader and you don't have any competition you wouldn't really care about refining these little things.

[@rollinontheboard]

UBLOCK ORIGIN

[@radeksparowski7174]

if they keep pushing to deactivate adblocker they will loose me as well

[@filipbyren4144]

I'm not entirely convinced that Google actually uses Google Cloud internally, and that could be their downfall. Some of their products seem poorly built and managed, resulting in a subpar developer experience. I wouldn't be surprised if they get squeezed in the cloud space by vendors like Vercel, Fly, Neon, and Upstash, all of which are focused on providing the best developer user experience possible. Additionally, they seems to not take large shares from the two other major players, Azure and AWS.

[@jordixboy]

That makes 0 sense imho. Why use someone else's cloud products (they are just resellers) instead of your own data centers

[@filipbyren4144]

I’m not saying they do not use their own hardware; all I’m saying is that for instance Amazon has openly stated that all of their customer services are powered by AWS. Internally using the same cloud experience as their customers. Never heard that statement from google about for instance search. Feel it’s evident if you look into their AI products, all lack good dev experience (been using GCP the last 3years now). Can’t imagine they use VertexAI internally for instance

[@sansmoraxz]

What nonsense. Google heavily uses GCloud, and has a lot more internal products built around it than others. And enterprises doesn't care much about developer experience, unless it negatively hits their productivity. And talk about irony most of those companies you mentioned are AWS resellers who sell their dev tools to third party small business and individuals cause AWS has a lot more footguns despite being cheaper on paper. Let's not forget that Google is the core maintainer / inventor of Kubernetes, Firebase and Cloud Spanner.

[@monad_tcp]

@@sansmoraxz "Google is the core maintainer / inventor of Kubernetes" Which without the AWS contributions wouldn't be what it is today. "Firebase" who uses that ? Android internal system of push notifications, probably its the only user, and some very tiny, small front end developers no one cares about. " Cloud Spanner " meh

[@sansmoraxz]

@@monad_tcp Having actively also used AWS and Azure I can confidently say that it's the same for all cloud hyperscalers. They break and go out of support a few years down the line. Azure being the least likely to retire product versions but even they do it.

[@petertheturt]

I like what microsoft are doing recently, but you've gotta give credit to google's successful launches as well, like Google Drive and the Pixel lineup.

[@5Hydroxytryptophan]

What are they doing recently? They are just as unreliable as Google with their products. They just aren't that innovative and do not have that many new consumer facing products. If my business depends on it, I wouldn't go with any of them. If they kill a product, they might also kill your business. If your whole IT infrastructure, including operating systems, depends on business decisions of another company, you do risk a lot. And it's not a good idea to transfer everything into the cloud - which is Microsoft's goal. Windows is not a product anymore, your data is. Windows is literally gratis for the end user, think about it. They hope for subscriptions and are burning a while lot money with the Gamepass, just to stay a bit relevant to the end user - which you can read up about in the Xbox leaks. Do not trust huge companies.

[@ShaferHart]

lol the overheating piece of garbage known as the Pixel. And they have released an overheating piece of garbage 7 times before they cared to fix that issue.

[@aloice]

I used to work for a company that rented servers in every major cloud provider to provide total global coverage for content delivery. GCP was by far the most expensive and we did everything we could to use all of the compute we paid for to get out of our contract with them as fast as possible.

[@Dexter01992]

With the years, they did everything in their power to push their users away by actively introducing anticonsumer practices almost weekly. It is about time that they face the consequences of their actions.

[@TheSulross]

they have the same anti-customer disease brought on by Wokeness b.s. just as Wokeness has decimated Disney. Theynarrogantly think they can force their Woke b.s. on customers just as the groomers at Disney thought they could do tomtheir customers

[@Sum_Ting_Wong]

Google keep deleting my phone contacts and they never synch properly either. I have tried every single setting possible and nothing works. Ever since they changed their policies this stupidity has been happening This has never happened to my iPhone

[@markusgarcia4136]

Same here, that the reason i switched to iphone and apple... 🎉

[@michaelsubasic]

Apples iCloud lives on Google….

[@distrustfulmonkey2832]

Worth noting that that smart phone share data is just straight up wrong. It's US only data for a global market. The US is a pretty tiny part of almost any global market which is - in this case - absolutely dominated by android. Yes it's getting smaller but it's shrunk to still (as of October 23) over 72% of the entire global market with apple being the big bit of the remaining 28%. US centric data on a global subject is basically irrelevant - the country isn't actually that big.

[@allenwaddell556]

My issue with Google centers on their useless web search results. In the old days (a couple years ago) you could get usable results right up front. Now you get whatever the producer paid the most to get listed as your first hits. People joke about how their search results show up as emails offering products within minutes.

[@felinehermetica]

We all stopped using IE for chrome and now we’re leaving chrome for Edge, which replaced IE. So glad I’m old enough to see this come full circle from literally the beginning. I switched everything from android & windows to Apple/iOS etc. I really like having all my stuff in one place, it was always hit or miss if my galaxy was going to connect to my laptop, paying for multiple cloud services got to be ridiculous. It makes more sense to have a quality external drive or set up a home cloud.

[@rollinontheboard]

I use Firefox

[@nicholasvinen]

​@@rollinontheboardI have been using Firefox since before chrome was released and I could never find a reason to switch.

[@2kt2000]

Try BARD again...its better now. I actually switched to BARD from CHATgpt this weekend. Its ease of use and conversational abilities are truly better. At launch it wasnt great..but its my choice NOW. Try it again.

[@jmonie02]

Yea, I am going back to edge. googl chrome is trash now.

[@sanjaybhatikar]

Same here. Also, left Google search for DuckDuckGo.

[@ciliscu]

Props for mentioning Protonmail!

[@rollinontheboard]

No props for not mentioning the oversimplified burning fox

[@OM-bs7of]

8:00 developers are trying to avoid proprietary things, not necessarily more convenient things

[@XerxesTexasToast]

I think the biggest issue is that Google Search, their first and flagship product, no longer serves its function because garbage bot sites have taken over the first few pages with AI-generated SEO bait to make ad money. Google is also an advertising juggernaut, and people are starting to get absolutely sick of ads on the internet as they get more and more intrusive.

[@gino14]

Everything made sense when I remembered the obvious: Developers are POWER USERS, and power users would rather have a tool that can do everything and is unwieldy than a tool that does a few things conveniently.

[@husleman]

Man, I love your videos, I learn so much from them. I watch all your videos. Really great quality and great topics to speak on. Thanks for making these. I wish you much success.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thanks man!

[@PoorMansChemist]

When they abuse their user base the user base leaves. Imagine that.

[@roquemocan]

In the case of Azure, I don't think it competes on price (only). They were proponents of Platform as a Service, in addition to the existing Infrastructure as a Service (where they give you a machine, and you configure it) and Software as a Service (where they give you an already running software. For example, SAP R3). Platform as a Service gives services to Apps or Programs, that the programmers can use, without having to know about the underlying machine.

[@gmjackson1456]

Hey, Google, why don't you ask customers what they want instead of blindly guessing?

[@panan7777]

They are way too Woke for that. Busily creating public opinion....results are heavily biased toward left. NOT to mention their BLACK POPE, made by AI. UPS, we've shown the whole world just what we REALLY are.

[@mariokarter13]

The Google Business Model: Create exactly one successful product and use it to bankroll literal dozens of failures. Optional: Buy someone else's one successful product for additional monopoly money.

[@milesward3754]

The errors in this thing are hilarious. AWS was not launched on spare retail servers, or done in desperation. (i know, i worked in the first 100 AWS folks and it's creator was on my hiring loop) App Engine was not launched in reference to AWS at all. (Eric Schmidt told me so) Describes App Engine as easy to use and not performant (where the actual problem was incompatibility with all pre-existing software), describes Azure as a successful early on (chortle), says azure was cheaper than AWS (pricing was actually locked to AWS pricing), describes that change was needed fast and TK came to the rescue (when he started we had already gone from 1/1000th the size of AWS to 1/4th), says TK hired sales engineers and solutions architects (a few, but more enterprise sellers), suggested OSS was the big discovery (nope had been leading OSS for 20 years, it's AI silly), the customers he lists as "finally" large customers are not in the top 10 GCP customers (I know, i closed 3 of them), and GPT accuracy isn't waning. Lemme know if you wanna debate some time dude, you need to get yer facts straight.

[@jacobitosuperstar]

I personally believe that App Engine and Cloud Run are the biggest enticements to use Google Cloud, don't know about full production, but for prototyping or having legacy software there, those are the best solutions at the moment. AWS and Azure solutions don't come even close to the ease of use and pricing, which is another thing. Google Cloud has a lot more support in countries like Colombia, Perú, Chile, México, etc... I don't get the video, I think that Google is doing great and the add business side of them having less money is normal, there is a lot less marketing money, that is reflected on the stock. Microsoft has his fare share of flops and stagnation, but I don't see nobody running around saying that they are doomed.

[@garrettmoon8848]

I watched the chatgpt financial trouble video, it was riddled with bad assumptions and just blatently incorrect information cited as fact. I think this guys goal is to just pump out controversial content quickly to get views without actually understanding the topic.

[@jacobitosuperstar]

@@garrettmoon8848 Don't forget about showing other indian executives as the game changers of the company.

[@Crates-Media]

Sounds like the generative AI writing the scripts is hallucinating again... *BAD AI!* _Stop taking LSD!_

[@Joardev]

wow i never thought to find a comment like that. you certainly know a lot about cloud. i have a question, do you have any advice to help me achieve my goal of becoming a solutions architect for GCP? thanks

[@Krishnendulaha]

This is why precisely I switched from Android to iOS despite iPhones being expensive here in India. Google can never be trusted, be it with your privacy or long term solutions for anything. Plus, most are dumb products anyway. I had lost my purchased songs and albums on Google Play Music as Google just one day decided to shut down for no reason and launched KZbin Music. I lost my Gmail account to hacker. Google is very unreliable. And Bard is just trash. Maybe good for preschoolers and that's that.

[@FreedomTalkMedia]

When Google started censoring search, I downloaded the pre-search app for my phone. It's a browser and it's a search engine. It has ad blocking built-in, so I'm watching this video without the ads on it.

[@dennisp8520]

The thing that Google has going for them that the completion doesn't is that they still own the internet. Google search is far and away the most popular search engine. Google Chrome is still the most popular web browser. These two foundational aspects makes it so that Google won't be going anywhere any time soon. The other Google products integrate well into their ecosystem. Are they losing users? Maybe, but its definitely not happening quickly since its now showing in the statistics. Even if they are losing some users, the things that those user are migrating to are also offshoots of things that Google still has their hand in. KZbin, the platform that we are on where I am typing this comment doesn't really have a true alternative option on the internet that is available to the western world. I also don't see a replacement coming into play due to the cost of running a platform like this.

[@blisphul8084]

I'd say Tiktok is the greatest threat to KZbin. Tiktok lacks a lot of the censorship of KZbin, but is mainstream, which gives it the diverse content library that people could only get from KZbin before. This makes Tiktok the first real threat to KZbin's dominance. Tiktok is now the platform to discover things, and KZbin is more of a hosting platform for people to view the long form content they discovered elsewhere.

[@dennisp8520]

@@blisphul8084 i respectfully find this very ironic TikTok has a lot more censorship and I mean real censorship then KZbin. KZbin will demonetize content sure but that’s very different from legit censorship. Also most people don’t really care and it’s very rare for something to be outright taken off the platform.

[@blisphul8084]

@@dennisp8520 True, but it's a different kind of censorship. If you want a broader angle, you will use both, since each platform bans different things. Small creators can report on things on Tiktok without MSM being favored (unless it's critical of China), so if you want to see what individuals actually think, Tiktok may be the better platform.

[@myoriginalname]

And yet the KZbin search sucks which is ironic. Really miss the days when you could actually search for content and actually get what you were looking for and not what YT wants you to watch.

[@rollinontheboard]

@@blisphul8084 If TikTok overtakes KZbin I'm going off the big tech grid

[@RayMak]

That’s really sad

[@RandomButBeautiful]

given that we are watching on youtube, which is absolutely exploding in popularity, with pretty much everyone and their dog piling in to make a channel... they are still riding beautifully on this one. 97% of channels are not monetized which means 97% of people are working for YT for free. That sounds like a home run to me.....

[@me-myself-i787]

But the channels which are monetised are the most popular ones. The unmonetised ones barely make any money, but still cost the same to host the videos (but less to stream them).

[@RandomButBeautiful]

@@me-myself-i787 they must have some mega data centers. GOOGL stock is up 55% YTD though; I don't think they are in trouble.. I think this vid is dramatizing their problems because it makes a good soundbite.

[@skillbopster]

KZbin is not exploding in popularity.

[@g04tn4d0]

I tell my clients to stay out of the Google ecosystem simply because Google has a history of discontinuing their own products, even if they're starting to become popular. Google is like a kid playing with Lego. They build several things, some are better than others, but eventually they get bored and tear everything down to make something else. You can't entrust your business to something like that.

[@bigbanknewyork3655]

Fitbit is a good example.

[@-haclong2366]

I'm afraid that Google will do what Satya Nedalla did for Microsoft, namely just give up on consumers altogether. While Microsoft is more profitable, there is no worse time to be a Microsoft consumer.

[@FlockofAngels]

Using Google Bard is like talking with a highly advanced alien or a god... ...and it takes me two hours to re-figure out how to get a photo from my Iphone 14 to my PC. That is why I have a Samsung tab S9 and I prefer my Samsung Galaxy s22 phone over my Iphone 14. I can control my tablet and my phone completely from my PC. I definitely do not regret "not" buying an Ipad.

[@Angarsk100]

Cloud is also going down. As a user I can say I become increasingly frustrated with their bugs, things that don't make sense, complicated way to find and use things, etc. It will be dumped as soon as another decent option pops up...

[@OCDGeek128]

0:42 Annihilating Android? It says right there “Region: United States” Why don’t you show the worldwide stats? Seriously wtf man.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

I have a full video on the worldwide stats as well bro. Android market share has fallen 8% over the past few years globally which translates to over 500 million users being lost.

[@OCDGeek128]

@@LogicallyAnswered But have Apple surpassed them? I think not. Far, far from it. Android has 70% of the global market share dude. That’s why you didn’t show the worldwide stats. It doesn’t fit your biased narrative. I used to like your videos but this ain’t it man. Unsubscribed, disliked, etc, etc.

[@Juanguar]

How about you stop bootlicking google They’re not paying your bills

[@OCDGeek128]

@@Juanguar I want him to not be biased with his info. Android literally has 70% of the global market share yet he makes it seem like it’s dying off.

[@thebahrimedia]

Google isn't now focusing on entreprise customers, they are at the point where they are abusing them too.

[@NicolayGiraldo]

They would need a monumental shift in customer support, instead of automated canned responses with banned accounts taking down entire businesses. Let's wait and see, for now I can not recommend Google for any serious enterprise use.

[@sapiosuicide1552]

Is this your first face reveal video? Very nice, glad to see you showing a little more of your personal side. As always i appreciate your analysis. Google has been on the decline for a long while now and i think any regular Google search users can attest to this. It really is disgraceful how bad it's gotten

[@sarahanne2]

He’s posted a few videos with a face reveal, I think his first video revealing his face was one about KZbin but I could be wrong 😅

[@siya.abc123]

One product I'm sure I won't stop using going into the medium future is Chrome. It's just so much more dev friendly

[@me-myself-i787]

On the one hand, Firefox Developer Edition is a great browser for developers. On the other hand, most of your clients probably use Chromium, so there's no point in optimising for Firefox.

[@everythingpony]

Firefox is better

[@thewhitefalcon8539]

Chrome is just Google's attempt to monopolize the web. Don't let Google monopolize the web - run Firefox.

[@jboxy]

Chromium is open source, many browsers are based on it by Google

[@siya.abc123]

@@jboxy tell me a developer of over 15 years about it, am I right? 😭

[@jasonhindle4054]

Google Cloud needs to get into Africa - lots of room for growth there (has not stopped growing since my early business trips 22 years back). AWS and Azure have a presence already, but it is just that - a presence when compared with the rest of the world.

[@DJcyberslash]

Don't tell em bro. Don't spill the beans 👀

[@RickTroutner]

One major change with Googles cloud products is its removal of an unlimited storage option. What used to be $12-20/month to $20/month per 5 TB or hilariously $300/month for an extra 10 TB.

[@everythingpony]

Who needs 15 tb of cloud? Plus unlimited storage is still a thing

[@Stealth86651]

The sad part is Google has largely ruined a lot of their projects. Stadia didn't need to be a failure, people just had no purpose of playing cell phone games on their TV. If they were going to spend a couple hundred, might as well get a real console plus a full game while you're at it. They simply made too much money and didn't have the skills to appropriately use it.

[@everythingpony]

Bruh PC games are not cellphonegames

[@everythingpony]

You are thinking of the oya

[@ralph4370]

G suite administrator was release in 2018 and 1 year later retired.

[@teawa_]

I like how your videos always end on a somewhat positive note

[@guiller2371]

That's not true. People are still learning about everything through KZbin, traveling with Google maps, searching Google, using Google fonts, Google forms, and the trend continues. Without Google; the world collapses. It's dumb to say Google is going down.

[@Viviko]

Love Google Cloud. It is so much cleaner than AWS.

[@niaz.shovon]

GCP UI is a mess. AWS got the cleanest interface.

[@KippinCollars]

Their search engine is easily gamed and search results are trash now. A new player could come in and destroy them if they just did search better.

[@Simon_Rafferty]

The bigger problem with Google products is trust. You invest time & money into integrating one of their solutions - then suddenly, either the terms or the interface change - or even worse they discontinue it altogether. Better to invest in a solution partner with a track record of stability.

[@technicallyme]

There are reasons to leave the top position for a challenge. I left multiple positions for a challenge and each time I rose to the challenge and was better for it

[@mevin-three-dplusmoreltd2120]

I love GCP. It allowed me to experiment with vm instances for free or minimum cost. Till now i did not see anything bad concerning the products i'm using. I'm freely using youtube, gmail, google sheets, docs etc.

[@tbraghavendran]

What is vm 🤔

[@BenCos2018]

​@@tbraghavendranvirtual machine Essentially a operating system running inside an operating system

[@ChadAV69]

Bruh Google Search is barely even useable. I don't even want to know about their other products.

[@ericpowell4350]

All Google has to do is (1) Significantly pair down their offerings. (2) Actually commit to what's left. It's just that easy.

[@themobilemage2137]

What did Google expect, selling people's data and not giving a damn about privacy? Scanning email, even. Did they think that would make them popular?? Smh.

[@hanzhovaj4129]

In my opinion the fall of Google was then they put commercials on KZbin 😂

[@foxracing8973]

In referring to the state of Google its like John Bender said in the Breakfast Club, "It wouldn't have anything to do with you people being assholes now...would it?" That and ppl are sick of their horribly aggressive data collection and invasion into privacy.

[@sajiretto]

First thing I did when I got my new Google Pixel was to install a new de-googled OS.

[@James_Baggott]

Google tried taking on Word 💪 with Docs 💩 then wonders why they are where they are?

[@JohnTovar-ks8dp]

With their excellent programmers, Google could have been a true competitor to Tesla. They even started on the project. But, apparently, they don't like to get their hands dirty.

[@brucenenke-vk5nk]

Google interveiw. "I want to make Google better than the compitition". "There is no compitition, you can be as crap as you want, we're all crap".

[@briandooley1516]

I'm so surprised to see your face in this video after watching your channel for years!

[@jont2576]

i dunno why but 10,15 years ago google was synonymous with privacy, anonymity and freedom of speech, including all google platforms and search engine......but in the last 5 years or so, that reputation has been slowly eroding and disappearing.....what happened to all the tech nerds and founders who believed in those principles and tenets???

[@j562gee0hdeewestsdegethemuLa]

The autofill feature Google has built is imo superior to anything else anyone has

[@apachekafka773]

You've never used Edge then. 😂

[@mi67890]

For me personally I don’t use Google products for a few reasons: 1) They are way too invasive and too insecure in terms of privacy and data in their focus to maintain their ad centric business model. 2) They have a huge history of abandoning their products instead of investing in them 3) They are just as bad if not worse than Facebook in terms of being pro consumer

[@SansaStarkw]

I wouldn't even work for Google if they gave me a Job, At least with Facebook now Meta made the Oculus Quest 3 Now what has Google come out with? the Stupid ass Pixel 8 Phone that I don't care about and KZbin is turning to shit due to Ads and the Dislike removal. Why Can't Google Just Die as a Company?

[@DashedSimpusMaximus]

Isn't the Google Pixel doing quite well? Or has that smartphone also made loses for them now.

[@mrfish9876]

They're again demonstrating their lack of understanding of the market though. They just copy Apple assuming that's what everybody wants, not realising that the people who don't buy Apple don't buy them because they don't like Apple. Things like no SD card slots and no 3.5 inch jack, that was a big portion of the market that Apple couldn't have but Google said "nah we'll let Samsung have them". They've done it with quite a few other things with Android too. They don't understand what it means to be a competitor. Being a competitor means offering something different, not just copying.

[@Juanguar]

I doubt pixel is doing that well Hell it’s not even available in most countries around the world

[@_Circus_Clapped_]

honestly, only good gimmick they had was unlimited cloud storage for pictures and image downloads, they stopped it after their 3rd gen of pixel phones, so they shot themselves in the foot They are also just like apple where users would not be able to repair the phones themselves without voiding the warranty etc. I saw my coworker have one and she basically is using a half bricked product, why would anyone want that?

[@mrfish9876]

@@_Circus_Clapped_ That reinforces my point - they just copy Apple without realising that one of the ways to compete with Apple is to appeal to the section of the market that doesn't like the way Apple do things. To correct the things that Apple get wrong. For years many people have flocked to Android simply because it's NOT an iPhone, so the more they keep copying iPhones, the less many people will be attracted to them. Obviously there's some good innovations worth copying, but there's also a lot of bad ones.

[@Matt-Thomas10]

I think the Pixel is as close to a recent success as Google can get. Their sales for pixel are growing, and although the market share is still low, it’s outlasted many other phone brands. Personally, I always thought the Pixel had promise and seemed like the cute, quirky middle ground between iPhones & Samsung. It’s definitely outgrown being the niche enthusiast phone to almost part of the big 3 of phone brands in the US. It’s far-far behind Samsung & Apple. But still a decent level ahead of Motorola. Not in terms of market share, but in terms of quality & brand perception. All in all though, I do view Googles Brand as “Simple, Cheap, & Insecure”. It’s pretty solid on a general sense, but doesn’t feel as legitimate as Microsoft. Though Microsoft can often feel too serious. I hope Google does try to keep innovating the Pixel well, but trying to incorporate solid elements of Samsung, Moto, & Apple without feeling like an awkward middle ground that doesn’t have enough value compared to the other options.

[@jimjimgl3]

"Although KZbin ad revenues were well below expectations, Shorts managed to hit a landmark 50 billion daily views, up from 30 billion in Q1 2022. That's a promising bump in popularity for a platform which, like the other big tech competitor on the market, has had trouble distinguishing itself from TikTok"...

[@sophiaisabelle027]

We appreciate this channel for supplying us with sufficient information and knowledge. We all wish them the best.

[@junaidJUNEhamid]

Remember when one day the stuff you wanted to know couldn’t be known on google .

[@willg3220]

You pulled a halo and started showing your face

[@jjeverson2269]

shocker a product manager that told google to create their own browser without actually developing a day in his life can't run the company properly.

[@themore-you-know]

Google has some of the world's sh*ttiest user interfaces. Every part of its tentacular monstrosity is a new "experience", aka nightmare. Very often, that nightmare exists within the same environment: - I dare you to open your KZbin account settings and make sense of it, while simultaneously maintain the feeling of being within KZbin.

[@themore-you-know]

@Luke5100 , I did. They are all bad experiences. But in my company, for a company, if you get your employees on Microsoft, only half of them have a sh*tty experience, instead of near 100% for Google.

[@catsupchutney]

Mega companies "innovate" by using their cash to buy up promising startups.

[@MichaelBTech]

Have you also noticed that all of your videos are very doom and gloom about Google?

[@paulopereira7391]

In a gloom video about apple, he said that android always has dominated the market, and on gloom videos about google he sais the complete opposite

[@AX-fx7ng]

Google forgot their Karmic: DO NO EVIL. Go Woke, Go Broke.

[@profdc9501]

Anyone offering services to professionals, like Google has tried to, has to be first and foremost mindful of the resources and times of those professionals. They don't want to have to spend a lot of time to evaluate your platform. They don't want to have to put a lot of effort into manhandling your platform into doing something you didn't intend it to do. They know when they are being locked into proprietary services or circumstances that might be difficult to extricate themselves from. It's really about control: if you provide a cheap service, but do not leave the professional in control of the systems they have responsibility for, they are not likely to consider your offering. A cheap introductory price does not reimburse a professional for their time or their risk in handing over some control to you.

[@Redditard]

why is audio and video is out of sync? 1:54

[@alice_agogo]

I used to be a google loyalist. since using the search engine in 2000-01, joining gmail in 2003, etc., now I just hate them with a passion. my browser has been duck duck go so is the search engine since before the pandemic. i'm mostly on tiktok because youtube is so boring. can't wait to buy more huawei so I don't have to use american os anymore. 😀👍

[@wyw201]

That’s quite an emotional response. 希望不会把全部时间浪费在抖音上.

[@alice_agogo]

@@wyw201 a seething response! 😠😡

[@wyw201]

@@alice_agogo Why such a seething response? Sounds like you can’t control your own emotions online.

[@alice_agogo]

@@wyw201 your mom made me seething mad! 😠😡

[@wyw201]

@@alice_agogo Usually people prefer younger women. You have quite the distinct taste 👅

[@ZorroComputers]

The thing is they are not brilliant at anything except adsense and search. To make a new product, a ground braking one, is not that easy. Apple was struggling for decades until they made ipod.

[@rajeshjumbarthi3744]

This video is absolutely right , I have using several Google products from decade I built all my stuff on it and all of sudden the products gets disappear for no reason and all my stuff data etc will get vanish I will be like I'm panished for having Google.

[@philipfong4800]

Anti competition I presume? That is what happen to me in advertising.

[@danielvasquez3758]

Oh yeah great videos brother!! Thanks!!

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Thank you Daniel!

[@rhoynedev]

I work in AI as a consultant for a lot of enterprise companies in the UK and across Europe, and Google is highly rated by most orgs despite the competition they have in the space... And they're only growing with more and more companies using Dialogflow to automate a lot of business operations. I think if they keep investing in GCP and improving the product base with Generative AI (which they're doing) then it'll be great for them. They do need to become less fickle on the consumer side, though.

[@hummel6364]

Yeah lots of us suddenly start listening when someone says "open source".