Why Microsoft Has Willingly Given Up On Trying To Innovate

[@herfamusic]

Windows Phone was an incredible OS that was buttery smooth and new looking that needed very low specs to run smoothly. What killed it was the lack of apps because it launched late and people were already divided between android and iOS.

[@wayando]

Being buttery smooth is not a feature. An old Nokia 3310 is butter smooth when it's doing it's designed functions ... The Nokia SmartPhone (Symbian) OS also ran on low spec gadgets. - It wasn't easier to use (IPhone was so basic, anyone could use it without instructions) - It wasn't evolving fast enough (Android was fresh every year with new features and functions). - They forgot their philosophy of penetration when they restricted the OS to Nokia phones and a handfuls of Samsung and HTC (Android did that and won through market share, even though they started after iPhone).

[@ArturoGarzaID]

Microsoft needs to bring the Windows phones back. There’s potential there.

[@LegioXXI]

@@wayando +1 I really don't understand all this post mortem credit the Windows Phone gets. The tiles simply wasted more space on the screen compared to any app screen on iOS or Android leading you to have to scroll very often. It didn't help that the app economy was growing and therefore the average number of installed apps. So even if the Windows Phone had all the apps, did people really want to scroll 5times more than the average iOS/Android user? Microsoft just can't do proper GUI design after Windows 7. Even nowadays, all the "good" things about the Windows GUI is legacy stuff from the 90s and 2000s, while most of their "innovative" designs from the 2010s either died out, or are literally forced upon the user by removing any option of restoring classic behavior like the Windows 11 taskbar. Why is Microsoft so stubborn trying to fixing something that was never broken?

[@googlehomemini2059]

Was a great phone, pity about the No apps...

[@blaidd-ppga]

Forgot the lack of apps, it was so painful to use and navigate around... Making a call itself was so difficult

[@AlexanderRay92]

I had a Windows phone and actually thought it had a very well designed UI, it worked great, was snappy and intuitive. I also had a Zune, which was technically far superior to the iPods available at the time of launch. In both cases they seemed to lose because of bad marketing and bad business strategy rather than because of a lack of innovation or bad product design.

[@50PullUps]

There were more than a few critical mistakes made in the Balmer era, for sure.

[@CCK1972]

Windows Phone was great because it was simple. It wasn't until they shoehorned Windows 10 onto it that it started to fail. Nobody asked for a full copy of Windows 10 on the phone. Nobody even asked for a mobile version of Windows 10 on a phone. I think Microsoft thought it would be easier to have the same OS work across all of their products and then just tailor the OS to each form factor. Rather than develop an actual phone OS like Android and iOS. That was a big mistake.

[@AlexanderRay92]

@@50PullUps "The Zune has an innovative feature where you can wirelessly share a song with a friend, what should we call it? Ballmer: "Squirting"

[@foca2002]

Microsoft has a huge problem that they only care about the US market, since Windows Phone and Zune sales are low there they decided to scrap everything. They have so much money that they can afford it.

[@mrkitty777]

Bully Gates send to many programmers to heaven, his favorite words were choking and cut off oxygen, and his henchmen obeyed. I recommend Bill Gates The Godfather of Tech Industry, a 10 hour documentary at KZbin. His success came from stealing from everyone.

[@okman9684]

You are missing the big picture here. Even though microsoft is very quiet at the consumer side (can change after Ai stuff because chat got) but their growth in the corporate department is astounding. It's like asking where is Oracle now or where is IBM now. They are not active at the consumer side but in the corporate and office department they have a single handed monopoly. Not every big company has to be a household name, there will be some winning in the shadows

[@serronserron1320]

Where is IBM now, besides serving the whims of a secretive AI Overlord.

[@illusionofquality979]

The video is saying how despite little innovation, their stocks, net income and revenue are soaring. I wouldn't say it's missing the big picture.

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

@@serronserron1320 They unloaded their hardware onto Lenovo and now are just providing IT services to big corporations.

[@ThePlayerOfGames]

People literally refer to desktop and laptop PCs as "Windows or Mac" where one is an operating system and the other is a brand of hardware, software, and accessories Microsoft Windows is synonymous with "operating system" for so many people, they aren't lil beans like Linux is.

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

@@ThePlayerOfGames I remember the day when asking people what computer they had over the phone meant they would read the brand off the monitor.

[@HemstitchedIrony]

Google seems to do acquisitions to acquire teams and competition when they're still small, Microsoft does really big acquisitions and seemingly let's these companies continue doing what works

[@asteriskconfidential7403]

I get confused when I see acquires "Teams"

[@danielvasquez3758]

At this point, they’re just settling on name brand recognition!! Everyone using word, excel, outlook, etc. No need to do anything else when you’ve got those!!

[@LogicallyAnswered]

True

[@wisenber]

"At this point, they’re just settling on name brand recognition!!" Most of their revenue comes from Azure and cloud based subscriptions. They don't need you to use Word or Outlook with that.

[@locobob]

At this point? More like a decade or two ago!

[@wisenber]

@@locobob They shifted their business model a decade or two ago. While everyone was moaning about Windows, they were building out Azure and Office365 which make up the majority of their revenue. They're the second largest cloud host on the planet behind Amazon.

[@silverchairsg]

One day even Excel et al will be disrupted.

[@hiphopvirgins4552]

I'm afraid I disagree. Microsoft has created Azure and reworked Skype to become Teams. By doing this, they locked in tens of thousands of business customers.

[@lexov7981]

Also Teams is not Skype. Teams is a totally different product built from the ground up internally which in the end killed Skype.

[@kyo250996]

​@@lexov7981 big news, the teams developed skype slowly switched into teams team at the end of skype and they developed alot of bridge between skype and teams (source, I used skype right before Microsoft drop it and focus on teams, alot of skype feature is on teams)

[@bandito241]

What they transformed was Lync, which became Skype for business and now they changed it to MS teams. The original Skype worked better as a desktop app but changed it so that it worked better with mobile platforms and their slow development basically killed their platform and made it worse.

[@CaosBoyCathian]

Business customers are considered a secondary tier to the primary market of common consumers, fewer, more demanding with less easily transferable features. Microsoft is dying. Apple is thriving.

[@rajkumarbharathi3139]

True, even companies that don't like microsoft use azure ad for access management

[@hlo695]

You forgot Azure. It’s their version of AWS and it actually has good portion of the market share. It’s no innovation sure, but they have a good source of revenue there

[@georgibg]

That was such a blatant omission that it raises the question whether I should stay subscribed to this channel.

[@hlo695]

@@georgibg well I mean, you do you. I think not mentioning Azure doesn’t necessarily kill the whole video idea, but it is an important omission

[@giraffestreet]

​@@hlo695 I was thinking about Microsoft Surface that started 2in1, convertible, touchscreen laptop trend. Tablet that can also be use like a regular laptop, which is what iPad todays are. Or how about Microsoft Hololens?

[@giraffestreet]

The video mostly talked about successful innovation from financial standpoint, which business making the most money. When what I was thinking is about how influencial Microsoft innovation are to the wider technology sphere, wether it failed financially or not. Hence Microsoft Surface lineup and even HoloLens.

[@JohnGeorgeBauerBuis]

Frankly, if I were getting started with cloud servers, I think Azure would probably be one of my first choices, although I’d probably use Ubuntu for the OS because it is both familiar to me and cheap.

[@abhishekbu1087]

They understood that instead of creating a product to compete with other products there are making their services available on already popular platforms. Its actually genius. They used chromium in edge browser with bing and ChatGPT integration and making it better than chrome. Xbox is now expanding to PC, mobile and handhelds. Now they are integrating chatgpt to all their development products, office and cloud which aill make it a monopoly over other products

[@LogicallyAnswered]

200 IQ stuff

[@mrkitty777]

You can get a free Microsoft Windows tattoo if you want 😅

[@Allen-L-Canada]

It's safe to say, MSFT virtually NEVER had an original innovative idea. They are just a copycat. They copied Windows from Apple's OS, Word from WordPerfect, Excel from Lotus-1-2-3, Money from Intuit, IE from Netscape, Surface from iPad, Azure cloud from AWS, Bing from Google.....the list goes on. It's a good business, but definitely NOT an innovative business.

[@mrkitty777]

@allenl7369 Bill used services of professional hitmen a lot. Microsoft is a violence based tragedy. Bill is the first person that invaded all countries at earth successfully.

[@abhishekbu1087]

@@Allen-L-Canada Actually, Windows came first . The idea of Operating systems and search engines existed way before. ideas are cheaper to get, but implementation is hard and takes time.

[@LoneWolf-py7ps]

I can't completely say that Microsoft has stopped innovating . They are experimenting with Bing , laptop and other stuff . But i must admit but none of the inventions have been groundbreaking or mass consumed like word or windows . I think Microsoft is trying to preserve that all windows feel and trying to improve the user experience perspective. Although i think windows 10 > windows 11 . May be that is my personal opinion.

[@okikiojo]

There is a bit of nuance here, innovate is a very broad word, I think what is meant here is disruption, but even then I would disagree, in the dev space Microsoft through GitHub has definitely been innovating. GitHub would not be able to do what it's doing right now if not for Microsofts backing

[@yonas6832]

They bought github

[@yonas6832]

They boughed it

[@LoneWolf-py7ps]

@@okikiojo Yeah that is so fascinating

[@Allen-L-Canada]

It's safe to say, MSFT virtually NEVER had original innovative idea. They are just a copycat. They copied Windows from Apple's OS, Word from WordPerfect, Excel from Lotus-1-2-3, Money from Intuit, IE from Netscape, Surface from iPad, Azure cloud from AWS, Bing from Google.....the list goes on. It's a good business, but definitely NOT an innovative business.

[@hassan_codes]

They ARE innovating. Office, Xbox, Microsoft Azure, and Windows have all been receiving updates that keep them essential. Office is still the best suite of Office applications.

[@Allen-L-Canada]

It's safe to say, MSFT virtually NEVER had an original innovative idea. They are just a copycat. They copied Windows from Apple's OS, Word from WordPerfect, Excel from Lotus-1-2-3, Money from Intuit, IE from Netscape, Surface from iPad, Azure cloud from AWS, Bing from Google.....the list goes on. It's a good business, but definitely NOT an innovative business.

[@rishabhsahlot7481]

They have some good AI & cloud research papers

[@MrSurfsAlot]

That's what I'm saying this makes no sense. They have been strategically making smart moves for a good while now. Purchasing github, npm, openai....

[@Psychopatz]

​@@rishabhsahlot7481 also, the majority of those research comes from Google since OpenAI is a former Google employees where they already been researching to a Generative Transformer in almost a decade. They're just bored at google for gatekeeping it and start their new company and then M$ bought them. Yep, been stagnated for a long time.

[@hassan_codes]

@@Allen-L-Canada You're conflating innovation with invention. They might not have invented all that you've listed but they continually innovate on their products to keep them competitive. If Microsoft wasn't innovative, they would have gone the route of other dead tech companies.

[@devgaikwad3813]

Buying the companies to remain on top in a correct way does and will work

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Very true

[@foca2002]

Look at HP, not even HP know how they are still in the business.

[@loreenl5781]

I loved my Windows phone. Way better than my iPhone. I was so disappointed it didn’t take off. Didn’t have a strategy to get developers to make enough apps.

[@lexov7981]

I think they did have a strategy; it was just domes to failure. You don’t always have to be first, but you definitely shouldn’t be last. Microsoft were last. At that point, the app ecosystem flywheel was very much established.

[@KyleDavis328]

It was a chicken and egg dilemma, the exact same one that'll forever keep linux away from being actually viable as a home user desktop OS option: developers don't want to commit resources to a platform with a small userbase, and users don't want to use a platform that doesn't have their apps on it. And until one budges it's gridlocked and the platform dies. The fact that Windows Phone never had Snapchat really was a downside during that time in phones. And Microsoft had a roadmap to unblock the cycle: Project Astoria. Sideloading Android APKs (or a potential storefront for them) would have broken the barrier for users. If an app was on Android, it would have been on Windows Mobile (assuming the Google Play services dependencies were overcome). Then with that, Windows Phones would have had the potential for gaining a userbase. It obviously wouldn't have been a guarantee, but the major roadblocks would have been gone. Then if the userbase grew, developers would have had incentive to port native apps to Windows Phone, especially if there was some cool feature that couldn't be accessed through an Android app (meaning live tiles). But obviously none of that happened. The route we ended up getting was UWP. And while UWP does the job adequately, Microsoft made a huge assumption that ended up not paying off: developers didn't want to make UWP apps. Sure there are some, but why make a UWP app for Windows 10 when Windows 7 and 8 still had marketshare, and needed a different version for those OSes too, a version that would _also_ still run fine on Windows 10. So UWP never took off the way Microsoft wanted it to, and therefore Windows Phones never got apps through that avenue. No apps means no users, no users means no more development from Microsoft's teams, Windows Phone is dead. RIP Windows Phone. RIP WP8's Cortana beta, best voice assistant even to this day.

[@MaidenLoaf]

​​@@KyleDavis328developers are largely moving to web development as they can use the exact same code to run a website as to deploy a desktop application; this code either compiles to web assembly or transpiles in to JavaScript. Discord is a great example of this. There are also PWAs, which you can install via your browser, which appear as a desktop app. I use the PWA for my job's chat app because there isn't a Linux version of it and it operates mostly the same as the Windows desktop version. Larger applications like office and productivity software or games either have equivalent open-source alternatives or web alternatives, such as LibreOffice or Microsoft's own Office 365. Linux serves as the basis for the Steam Deck, which has a lot of popularity in the handheld market right now, and its development has also indirectly made running Windows binaries much easier as well; I've done so for some music software I can connect my piano to that only has a Windows version and it worked flawlessly. There are barriers to entry when it comes to mainstream Linux use, but the app availability argument is trending towards irrelevant. As for device compatibility, it's better than it has ever been. NVIDIA graphics used to be the bane of Linux users due to bad driver support, but the drivers now not only work for the newest cards, they're also open-source leading to community-driven development as well. My experience has been that it's the exception rather than the norm for hardware issues nowadays.

[@BobHutton]

I think you missed one major innovation from Microsoft: Active Directory. While its origins where in the late 90's, it really didn't fully develop until the mid 00's. While most people probably haven't heard of it, if you work for a midsized or larger organisation, chances are, when you logon to your work computer, it's via Active Directory. AD is a good product. It solved the problem of having multiple username/password combinations at work. The problem came when Microsoft started cranking up their prices around 2015. By then (pretty much) every piece of enterprise software was heavily integrated into AD. I worked in the IT department of a midsized not-for-profit enterprise at the time. We looked at alternatives, like public domain LDAP solutions, but it was going to be too costly and disruptive to change. We had little choice, but to pay Microsoft what they asked.

[@shuenshuen]

I never thought of that, bet that's a pretty big part of their revenue.

[@BobHutton]

@@shuenshuen Possibly not directly, but it does keep organisations locked into the Microsoft ecosystem.

[@Anton-tf9iw]

AD is an unwanted but forced cost multiplier for small organizations.

[@aegis_helion]

As usual they increase prices then free software solutions develop

[@dr.elvis.h.christ]

Not a MS innovation. Novell had NDS long before MS adopted any type of directory model.

[@foca2002]

Microsoft is a B2B oriented company, and corporations don't want innovation they want things to work. They sell to customers, but they real customers is corporations. If you look for Microsoft revenues Office is the biggest cash cow, Azure is right behind, Windows (Mostly OEM licenses) come in third almost tied with Server products and licenses.

[@picklikeapro6952]

I ran a repair shop for 6 years from 2011-2017. Windows phones users LOVED their phones. They were so upset when they realized no more would be made. They should have kept making them and continually made them better. It would be competitive. I liked mine I had for a short amount of time til I tried iPhone and realized it was great for business.

[@CCK1972]

The few services that Apple has they bought. Their television streaming service may be an exception. But literally every reason to invest in Apple back in the nineties was because of acquisitions that are those apps which are the reasons artists, musicians and writers are loyal to the brand. They continued this with the iPhone services. Those acquisitions may have been cheap in comparison to what Microsoft is known for. It is hard to innovate when the guy down the street has a better product you can buy and implement into your company.

[@IamOl1vebranch]

Yeah most of Apple services are usually like 2-5 years old after another company releases a product. Take "Apple Vision Pro" it is literally just virtual/augmented reality headset with a sleek design, but Apple never mentions "virtual reality" or "augmented reality", because they want to sell it as something brand new, when in reality Facebook and Microsoft has been the leader in this area for quite sometime. The last time "Apple" innovated was when they released the first "iPhone."

[@fredashay]

The problem is that all "innovative" companies rose to the top at their start because some innovative person started the company, then it trudged along on that initial success. When a stodgy old company buys an innovative profitable company, the stodgy management then stifles the innovation of the company they bought by "bean counting" and enforcing "diversity initiatives" and other things that kill innovation.

[@unifairsum21]

I actually loved the windows phone when I had it it was super fast even on a budget version and the homescreen setup with the little windows every it was great I wish they never killed it but they were too late to the party so developers were never really interested in coding for the platform when they already have to for Android and Apple

[@Hari-rm2oz]

Windows Phone was one of the best-optimised mobile phones on the market during its time. When Android needed a minimum of 1GB of RAM to do basic tasks without hanging, windows worked at 512MB of RAM butter smooth without any problems and the transition animations were fantastic. it was one of the best phones to use. By no means was it a wrong product or a bad experience. You may be right on paper that Microsoft didn't design an OS from the ground up for smartphones and that's why they failed. But that's not true, they failed because Microsoft didn't realise they had to have apps on the phone to be able to do smartphone things. They failed to understand the market and its mostly bad marketing and market analysis. Judging by your statements, you probably might not have used a Windows phone and I don't blame you for that.

[@jevonsims900]

Windows Phone had four advantages compared to iPhone and Android. 1. REAL EXPANDABLE STORAGE!!! I turned my 64gb Nokia Lumia into a 128gb phone with a simple micro SD card. 2. Windows Phone had Dark Mode before it became popular so by the time Android and iOS had Darkmode it was old to WP users. 3. The ability to delete carrier app bloatware was a beastly feature in Windows Phone there's a reason carriers usually kept WP All THE WAY IN THE BACK! 4. Battery Life on a 25,000mah WP could last three days easily on Windows 8.1 Man, those were the days.

[@ceu160193]

@@jevonsims900 I still use Lumia phone, only had to change battery once.

[@KyleDavis328]

@@jevonsims900 5. Windows Phone 8.1's version of Cortana was better than anything available today. I use the Google Assistant all the time and to this day have not received a reminder made via voice. Timers, sure. Alarms, sure. Reminders, never. Not to mention WP8.1 Cortana had person-based reminders: "Remind me the next time I talk to Mom to..." and it worked. Get a call, reminder toast. Get a text, reminder toast. Make a call, reminder toast. Open messages, reminder toast. It was amazing. And location based reminders back in 2015. Again, still can't get that to work right with Google.

[@MeowtronStar]

Windows phone was an objectively superior smartphone OS. But the app market was dominated by Android and iOS. They did not put enough effort to bring app developers into the platform.

[@50PullUps]

I disagree. They tried to brute-force an ecosystem into existence. I think the problem was timing. MS didn’t take the iPhone seriously enough in the late 2000’s and couldn’t catch up when the missed opportunity was recognized.

[@foca2002]

I still miss my tiles and live tiles.

[@wisenber]

"They did not put enough effort to bring app developers into the platform." Recently, they bypassed that by allowing Android apps to run on Windows without an emulator. Maybe too little too late, or they can have their CoreOS run on smartphones.

[@leskfan1277]

Microsoft's "revolutionary products" in the past 20 years are reworks of other products that are already popular but sometimes they make it better. For example, AWS => Azure, Chromebook => Surface, Google products => Office on Web. Even Teams video capabilities were because of Zoom. This sometimes works in the Enterprise market because businesses are used to Microsoft. But on the consumer market it usually fails because consumers are less likely to change. For example, Bing and Windows Phones failed because users didn't want to change.

[@triadwarfare]

4:28 Internet Explorer was "innovative" because it was "free" when Netscape was charging money to use their software. This did eventually push the browser wars to freeware territory as charging for money means an automatic loss.

[@Stef-2U]

only because netscape wouldn't sell to microsoft, because of the low amount of money the offered to buy out netscape for, then the threats started because microsoft couldn't get their own way, If you didn't sell to microsoft, they would force you out of the market one way or another, all they have ever done is buy up companies that had a foothold in the markets they wanted to get into, they wanted to monopilize the tech industry any way they could.

[@Administrator...]

And that's why I support Microsoft's acquisition of AB, a company that treats its subsidiary like a good father, doesn't interfere much but still quietly helps. And the worst thing about this story is that the Japanese monopolists and good at lawsuits say this acquisition is threatening the diversity of gamers' platforms.😂😂😂

[@DrewPicklesTheDark]

AB is amazing at making money, but they have ruined the quality of every franchised they touched, Microsoft taking a hands off approach isn't really going help them in that regard.

[@card_craft]

I would argue that the way that they integrated GPT-4 and bing is pretty innovative. Although i do understand that it already existed.

[@mrkitty777]

With GPT Microsoft found a way to legally resell open source Github code because artificial intelligence has no copyright it's not bound to open source license. Microsoft sells it as a coding assistant legally. It's theft.

[@KyleDavis328]

If you can't count Bing + GPT-4, I'd say you can't count Meta's Metaverse either. They didn't invent modern VR, they bought Oculus. They didn't invent the concept of the metaverse they named it. Not only is it just corporate VRChat, but VRChat isn't even a novel idea either, it's just VR SecondLife, which while credited as the first metaverse, traces its origins to other online platforms of the 90s.

[@card_craft]

@@KyleDavis328 I never called the metaverse new. It's literally just bad facetime to me

[@thechocolatebarfipodcast4209]

They literally shook Google's core by coming up with BingAI. But this guy:

[@y2kblackout]

He's claiming that it's not MS' innovation. It is OpenAI's innovation, even though MS funded it, and just incorporated it.

[@mpirokajosephmgcokoca2355]

Hahahahaha 😁

[@may21136]

Google has always been going back to the drawing board. Say yahoo, say iPhone, say chatgpt, google always gets shocked and responds to it. 😂 Android and smartphone thing worked out for them, but the ai thing isn't working out recently.

[@timatwater8247]

Microsoft is now mostly a services and marketing company essentially. They do a ton of advertising for Microsoft 365, which is now a massive app suite that most ordinary consumers and smaller businesses don't really need but they can still get a lot of money for it in spite of the many cheaper alternatives simply because most people don't know the alternatives exist. Windows Phone actually had some good ideas but they weren't always executed well and the OS never got a lot of app support from developers which eventually doomed it. Windows 10 on the phones never quite finalized either.

[@ZenTechnologist]

I hear you. So which alternatives to Microsoft 365 are worth trying, especially for emails and file sharing?

[@KyleDavis328]

@@ZenTechnologist If it's just emails and file sharing, Google's offerings are pretty good in that space. Gmail is the best webmail client out there, and google drive offers a pretty good free tier. Now as for the office suite, Microsoft 365 really has no competition. Sure there's Google's offerings, LibreOffice, and even Corel is still kicking around with WordPerfect, but if you at all use spreadsheets, they're all irrelevant, nothing can beat Excel. I've tried. And every competitor has a hiccup somewhere, something they either can't do as easily or as straight forward as with Excel, or simply not at all. And this isn't even accounting for scripting and VBA. That just brings Excel up to another level for those willing to subject themselves to that.

[@TheRealSeamless]

Have you seen the tools they have built around chat gpt in Azure AI? Seriously innovative and not all made by open ai.

[@lonyo5377]

Not sure how Amazon is innovating with AWS but Microsoft isn't with Azure. Makes no sense

[@TheRealSeamless]

@@lonyo5377 Amazon has sagemaker which is also pretty good. Not sure how you can say they aren't innovating in Azure though. I'm using the tooling and it's seriously good.

[@Shapar95]

@@TheRealSeamless second rate compared to AWS. I mean Azure as a whole is kind of like that.

[@TheRealSeamless]

@@Shapar95 how is it second rate? Have you seen or heard much from Amazon recently? Hardly being spoken about. Actually, having met with sales teams from both and actually a number of other teams from Google and others, Azure came out on top. I will say there isn't much in it though Amazon lock you into their own ecosystem, Microsoft allows your own tooling (which gives them the edge here).

[@HandelBarf]

I’m glad that Microsoft has made all these acquisitions because Windows is finally nice to use again 😂

[@hariharpuri1362]

I think 💭 by the time anyone thinks of innovation Microsoft be there by not doing anything new in the sector. You see Microsoft have made such a strong start which became a pedestal but the statue felt like a Mt.Everest, if you think space race you know as a race tech innovation is the longest marathon and fastest in history. Great video 👍 By the way, I remember you using the bill’s piracy comment on your piracy video which was a year ago 😅 great journey hari 👍

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Yep, it’s a classic clip :)

[@hariharpuri1362]

@@LogicallyAnswered tech nostalgia 😂

[@GreaterJan]

They built Azure, a huge profit driver.

[@redbeardhomes]

They are starting to become more like VC’s than a tech development company

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Yep

[@abdalrahmanalassaf5764]

What is VC's referring to 🤔?

[@motherchuckair404]

@@abdalrahmanalassaf5764 venture capital

[@shuenshuen]

​@@motherchuckair404 the acquisition of discord is a good example

[@AlphaSections]

True, but unlike VC's they don't seem to invest in risky investments with liabilities, politically motivated charity/foundation, or faith based eco companies like the way that SVB did. Guess that's why SVB got demolished, but microsoft is still in the green. Microsoft is wiser, they try to learn from past mistakes and prefer to buy out mostly proven companies and ideas at a higher price yes, but functional and profitable in the long term.

[@lexov7981]

I will disagree on one thing though…. The Windows Phone OS (based on the Zune HD) was and STILL IS HEAD AND SHOULDERS THE BEST SMARTPHONE OS EVER. It was a genuine delight to use the phone,

[@lonyo5377]

Yup, video from someone who never used a Windows phone

[@AlphaSections]

I bought into the Windows Surface Duo 2 phone. It is not a fully developed product, but the potential is amazing! I'm sad to see it sink, it was expensive but it can do a lot of stuff that traditional smartphones can't. I'm talking about going over spreadsheets on Excel while doing a video call at the same time! So useful for me!

[@v2joecr]

Windows phone was out long before iOS or Android phones. Both Google & Apple pay royalties to Microsoft for the phones that they sell. Microsoft was concentrating the Windows phone on business users & ignored the consumer side that Apple & Google were going after. They should have marketed the Windows phone to home users before Windows phone 7. I remember a trainer I had in the early 2000s telling his class about the wonders of the Windows phone long before they finally launched Windows Phone 7 which was late to the game. Also, the Zune launched with more features than the iPod at the time. It had wireless sync for several years before Apple finally added it to the iPod. The Zune had a widescreen display when watching videos while the iPod still had a non-widescreen display. I will admit that Microsoft made several mistakes with Windows Phone. With Windows Phone 7, they reset the store for the Windows Phone which they did again for the Windows Phone 8. That along with being late to marketing the Windows Phone to home users I think were the biggest downfalls of the Windows Phone. They did realize with Windows 10 mobile to not reset the store again, but the damage from the past had already been done making it so that they were severely lacking on the apps. So Windows 95 changing the UI of the OS was not an innovation? Why do you ignore adding "Device Manager" to Windows? That made IT's job of dealing with hardware much easier. While I'm at it adding Active Directory in Windows 2000 was innovative making the network administrator's job much easier. You ignored Microsoft's purchase of Vermeer Technologies so that they could get what became Microsoft FrontPage. Which was widely used to make websites for more than a decade after Microsoft released the last version of the FrontPage server extensions being for FrontPage 2002 which would work with FrontPage 2003 just that the 2002 extensions had the last update or features added to them. FrontPage 2003 was the last version Of Microsoft FrontPage for Microsoft Office & at that point was only available as a stand-alone product while with Office XP it was included in at least one bundle (I'm going from memory on this one as I did support it at that time for Microsoft).

[@Viviko]

“He started small with Mojang… these are the guys behind Microsoft”. Lol :)

[@WhispersOfWind]

Yes, it is interesting. One almost wouldn't be aware of these things unless as the video notes: it has been told to us, in which sense I kind of really do appreciate this KZbin channel because with each video there is so much to learn about the world that we live in that it is almost unparalleled in quality and sort of quantity because it does cover quite a range of topics at least in terms of themes so... Good. I like it. Now what I've noticed while watching the video is a thing that stood out to me, and I don't know if this is a normal nature cycle but when you mentioned about Microsoft acquiring a lot of companies and not interfering with their practices, and therefore that it was or had become more of a holding company than a business before and an enterprise later, I literally had to think about how companies and in this sense not just Microsoft but companies at large I would say and this is also combined with the people, so the consumers as well sort of pay more attention or at least put much more effort into companies themselves than say the world that we live in which by I mean foremost nature and the Earth. I had to think about that there and then which also prompted me to wonder a bit about the future of the Earth and how perhaps if we collectively made an effort to save or to preserve it together or to come up with some certain solutions to problems we all are facing, amongst which natural catastrophes but not just confined to that types of troubles (think of many earthquakes that happen for instance all across the world where when and if an area is hit, well you kind of can discern what happens i.e. a "catastrophe", hence the word and the thoughts) we actually, at least I have the feeling might do and achieve a lot in this regard, for and of the health of people and the environment we live in. Now. I am not particularly an environmentalist I have to sort of disclose but in this sense something about that idea of Microsoft being or becoming a holdings company in which sense it takes care of the various businesses it has acquired over the years to then preserve them, resonated to me in a greater sense. I think your videos have this tendency to do this to me more frequently than just here and is also one of the reasons why I love listening and watching videos on this channel. Peace.

[@TheVirtualArena24]

Great video the transitions between chapters are implemented well. Waiting for next video

[@shadybeatsCarbon]

The model nowadays is to set a monthly payment subscription, that is what companies follow now.

[@woehr6]

Yep it also means they don’t have to deliver as good of a product. I hate live service

[@arunnrobo]

2 in 1 device category like surface pro, Hololens in Mixed reality category, Generative AI in Search, Enterprise class products like SharePoint, Office, D365 all from Microsoft.

[@juliankohler5086]

Uh... Visual Studio? Azure? A whole bunch of excellent programming languages, extremely successful frameworks, runtime and compilers. Oh yeah, Microsoft Dynamics, Microsoft Power B.I., and who could forget, DirectX 12...

[@SanthoshVodnala]

Damn, that's interesting. PS: please dial down the animations a bit. They are a bit jarring, especially the test zooming in and out one.

[@wixostrix]

I had a Zune 80 and love it. They had bigger and nice screens than the classic iPods. They even had some nice minis. The desktop software was much nicer to use than iTunes and wireless syncing was beautiful. They probably could have had a chance if the iPod Touch hadn’t came in and then they released the Zune HD with no real app store. Until smartphones came of course, which they also failed at despite having a pretty good product that was Windows Phone.

[@B.Ch3rry]

When PWA (Progressive Web Apps) become mainstream… I hope these different companies make their own smartphones again! Also make Windows compatible with ARM processors!

[@adisokolovic]

Microsoft is still my favourite phone I ever used. I wish they kept working on it.

[@dylanf3108]

I know they weren’t first to the punch but they dominate the voice chat space now with Teams. Most companies use it.

[@Bb13190]

One exception for Google is KZbin, they bought it for a couple billions. And no, thanks I don't want videos about the evolution of tech companies. Almost all your recent videos are about tech (salary in tech, hiring in tech, history of tech ....). I would like to see another subject for once please.

[@mybirds2525]

I met Hernando of New Products at Microsoft in 2005. I tried to talk to him about some new products and he was simply talking of the "Singularity". I concluded that they were going to a "rent model". That is like they do with office trying to stop sales to start getting annual fees etc or monthly fees etc.

[@juliusreycalderon1998]

I'm not sure what you are talking about when you say Microsoft stopped innovating, just take a look on the Software Development side / Microsoft Visual Studio / Code and you'll see a lot of innovations. Also Microsoft is currently working on Windows OS that will be powered by AI.

[@50PullUps]

Visual Studio Code has new features added every month, it’s awesome! And impossible to keep up with 😬

[@shootdaj]

What about MS Azure and their defense contract, and their investment into ChatGPT and what about MS Bing rising in popularity?

[@MaddJakd]

Teams is a staple in the business world. Same with Windows, as well as for consumers who just want something that's familiar and works. Office is still defacto the office suit that everyone is trying to emulate. And their cloud business has some HUGE players running their services on them. They're set pretty much.

[@imaprogrammer]

I truly like the new microsoft better. Nice compilation. Embracing open-source is by far the most appealing of microsoft feats.

[@scotthayes5386]

It might be unpopular, but I personally rlly love Microsoft. Sure they do sketchy things at times, but overall I’ve always been treated great as a customer and the way they grew Minecraft so much makes me so happy.

[@sandilezulu982]

I own shares and firm believer of the company strategy

[@MichaelDeeringMHC]

When MS integrates GPT-4 with their hundreds of other companies, that is going to be something. Imagine a GPT-4 programmer adding new features to Minecraft.

[@amruthsai5159]

Love your videos. But the recent background music in your videos is too loud and distracting.

[@sagarnandi6276]

The video editing is a little over the top. But I like it 👍

[@DeepKnowledgeSpirituality]

Another great video,

[@mikescholz6429]

I had a Moto Q back in the day and I loved that thing.

[@rui518]

Nice to see the Lisbon office @15:16

[@DeathValleyDazed]

Learning from Hauri while eating breakfast. Great way to start the day!

[@JeremyPickett]

But but but... The Zune came in BROWN!!!!! (I actually kinda liked that part, I say while staring at my entirely brown suite of luggage, current pants, glasses, furniture, and home accents 😁)

[@wisenber]

Microsoft doesn't have to innovate, and they've de-emphasized software licensing for some time. Azure, Office365 and other subscription models has been their focus for some time with business clients having a priority. Meanwhile, their support of cloud based infrastructure and software defined networking along with being more OS agnostic has positioned them to be relevant for some time. The days of primarily depending on desktop Windows and Office licenses for a primary source of revenue have been gone for nearly two decades. Microsoft doesn't have to sell you a phone every year to meet their revenue targets. They bill you every month and put it in the bank.

[@nathan2849]

Cant wait to watch

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Hope you enjoy Nathan!

[@rdline_drvr8350]

Why would you’ve quite conveniently forgotten about VScode, WSL and WSL2 and co-pilot? What are your terms to define ‘innovation’?

[@NeilDonkin]

Microsoft's Azure cloud platform is actually very innovative

[@hankpigate943]

Azure and Xbox are 2 pretty big things outside of windows and office that have come about in the timespan you mentioned...

[@mayurteli91]

Loved this video ❤️, Thank you for sharing 🙌🏼 , So much to learn ✅

[@knaz7468]

One minor correction ... Microsoft has NOT acquired ATVI yet. I know this because I've had ATVI stock for the last 2+ years and it is in complete limbo because the deal hasn't gone through. Everyone keeps trying to stop the deal and they wait until the 11th hour to cause max delay. It is not a sure thing.

[@dylangtech]

The crazy thing about this is HoloLens 2 is objectively better than Apple Vision Pro: It’s slimmer, lighter, wireless, has more sensors, and sells for the same price when it came out a couple years ago They are clearly ahead in the race to the consumer market, but right now Microsoft seems SET on conceding the MR market Apple completely. They seem to fear real competition whenever they do innovate, which is a bad sign for the company. The doom cycle of letting Apple have the market unopposed is that it makes it harder to recover. But unlike the smartphone, Microsoft is REALLY far ahead here The loss of Windows Phone was tragic. My first smartphone, and a really good one at that. Typing this from an iPhone…

[@zahawolfe]

Did not expect to see Brennan Lee Mulligan in this video, yet here we are

[@kyo250996]

As a dev, I think you are so mistaken. Azure is going very strong and a big part of microsoft revenue (26% to be exact) are from this newly developed platform)

[@dennisp8520]

I am just gunna throw this out here but sometimes I don't need a company to "inovate" software like Windows is a perfect example of that. Windows is at its best when its not something I notice and just lets me do what I want to do on it. It is in part the reason why I never end up going to Linux for my primary workstation rig. I will also just say that Microsoft has been trying to innovate, but the changes they are making just don't take off.

[@zee4265]

Teams is probably Microsoft’s greatest creation since windows… and at times it leaves a lot to be desired.

[@ZakHooiTM]

Biggest issue with Microsoft is making an SDK or technology and year or few years later they discontinue or make an new version which in incompatible with the older projects. Windows Phone 7 apps couldn't run on 8 without rewriting half the app, same with 8 to 10. They crippled some features or withheld APIs to developers so they had to workaround limitations. I loved Windows Phone, used 7,8 and 10 till the day it died. It was well designed and it worked fine, just some apps were a bit clunky because of the issue as said before

[@pranavdeshpande4942]

The answer to your quesiton: Yes, Microsoft has cracked the code to eternal life! Also, they do innovate. Microsoft Research Labs is a really good place. I don't know much about product innovation though.

[@eevd350z]

On an enterprise level, I’m so sick of Microsoft’s exchange upgrade nightmares spending numerous countless hours trying to find commands without breaking domain controllers, ECM patching logs troubleshooting, WSUS offline patching headaches, why servers refuse to patch, visual studio patching offline nearly impossible, volume licensing Compatibility with KMS and ADK issues and their torturing phone automation to activate products offline which no one has time which takes 30 minutes to an hour to activate 1-2 machines! Your cloud services are useless in closed environments!

[@themore-you-know]

Telling Microsoft doesn't innovate is a laughable marker of ignorance. - Azure, Teams, Power BI, etc. -> the amazing amount of scale and internal integration alone is innovative and unsurpassed. - Platforms which are then built-upon by developers and business people. Azure builds cloud-infrastructure, Teams/PowerBI builds collaboration between Enterprise clients. - However, that innovation is not exactly the most accessible: using these products is either business-purpose driven, or highly technical (Azure, PowerBI) No one understands Microsoft's 2010s unless they spoke of Azure within their first 2-3 sentences.

[@RockyPeroxide]

Well, it started with Microsoft BASIC, and then they bought Quick and Dirty Operating System (QDOS) that they renamed to MicroSoft Operating System (MS-DOS). It was meant to provide most of the functionality of CP/M, that was popular with businesses at the time.

[@capitanodessa7472]

Ballmer saying 'machine' instead of 'device' lets you instantly know he was out of touch with the times.

[@saket1280]

MS is everywhere now with its cloud dominance

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Yep

[@50PullUps]

AWS is still king of the cloud. Azure is still behind but the gap is closing - and I hope it stays that way. If MS feels they’re playing 2nd fiddle to someone then they’re going to work even harder at research & development.

[@King-Merlin]

the new Microsoft is Funky and Awesome 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾

[@MrMickey1987]

Watching this on my Microsoft Surface Duo 2. Might not have been a massive sales succes. But it is definitely a innovative, unique product. Best pocket 'pc' I've ever owned, and it makes phone calls too 😜 So it's not like they aren't trying anything to innovate, they definitely are trying.

[@scottfranco1962]

Before Windows, MS bought MS-DOS from another vendor, Tim Paterson, as 86-DOS 1.10. When Windows went internet, there were external add on packages for Winsock to do that. Microsoft was never the tech leader. Maybe MS-Basic.

[@FlyingArtz.]

The Zune was 🔥🔥🔥 too bad more people didn’t see it!

[@BeSwee]

My god...they are the Berkshire Hathaway of tech.

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Yep pretty much

[@lonyo5377]

No. When you run a Microsoft shop you're using Windows, you're using Office, you're using Teams, Azure. You set up single sign on with your Windows credentials to third party services. They are not separate business areas even if they have split out the revenue. They offer a complete suite which all works together. Like owning rail track, the trains that run on it and the stations. Are you Berkshire Hathaway because you split out the revenue for each?

[@BeSwee]

@@lonyo5377 I think you missed the entire videos message.

[@johnvonachen1672]

Microsoft the company had not made big visible products in the same way but individuals working at Microsoft have. XML, the concept of Ajax (sending small messages from a browser to the server to get back small responses without reloading the whole web page). Both these things are huge but not well known. I'm sure there are many others. I never thought I'd be saying good things about MS.

[@miltonsibanda4540]

Not a single mention of Azure in this video at all.

[@doclorianrin7543]

Microsoft invented Active Directory which is a kickass concept in the enterprise world. The Windows Mobile OS became Windows 8 which brings us to modern Windows 11. They do enough innovation. They don’t need to be innovators at this point. They just need to make existing tech better. Also MS was one of the first in on the augmented reality research. Don’t sleep MS is out here in these skreets.

[@larryragland887]

I actually had a modded Zune back in the day with several movies and hundreds of songs.

[@yennapallyvamshireddy3590]

Sundar pichai is a Business analyst and great executive, actually never wrote production code for google. He is a genius, not a technical/ IT genius.

[@minimalist_zero]

I truly love this channel with all my heart!

[@LogicallyAnswered]

Much love :)

[@WarEagleTimeMachine]

Microsoft basically makes the cogs that keeps many businesses running efficiently. Nothing flashy about it.

[@still.rendering]

I loved this style. Great video!

[@MrSurfsAlot]

Seems like they innovate more than most companies to me

[@ashwin2k]

I feel like you've missed out on the data analytics platform from Microsoft, which is quickly becoming an industry standard

[@vidmantaskvidmantask7134]

Your channel is good and entertaining. Keep making videos. Thank you. : )

[@UzairJSherwani]

Very interesting background music!

[@aryan_shorts812]

Its India's culture to maintain a good Public Relation (PR) with nearby peoples & that's y Satya collaborated with most of Microsoft's competitors

[@shawa666]

Microsoft should never have thought tthey could work in closed ecosystems. That had never been their Modus Operandi. They were the early Ford of the software world. Make a product just cheap enough to buy and good enough to not completely suck and easy enough to operate and you get market dominance. Doesn't matter if you buy your gas from Shell, Standard Oil or BP, as long as you put that gas in a Ford, Henry is happy.

[@rohansampat1995]

"passive" for the most part. But there is a notable exception. Microsucks is actually doing a lot with Minecraft. Besides making other genres, it has also integrated microforced account login for ALL minecraft accounts, not just new ones... the transition period is rapidly ending. Not only that but microlord is also taking chat control away from servers and actively changing the direction of minecraft as a game. In fact their whole gaming buisness has been trying hard to integrate their own services into games and taken an active role in managing game aquisitions. Sometimes for the better, other times, like minecraft, for the worse. If people are wondering though, the modding community has some TEETH and has developed countermeasures that will keep your account safe from the hackers that are microhack...

[@theantmattia]

I was the only one in middle school with a zune and I can say that it was pretty good compared to the iPod.