GoPro Hero 12 vs Hero 11 - Honest Comparison

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Phillip Skraba

Phillip Skraba

Күн бұрын

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@GoPro
@GoPro Жыл бұрын
Phillip, You’ve had quite the journey with HERO12 Black so far! While we understand you got the camera fair + square from a retailer, they mistakenly put it on shelf early. HERO12 goes on sale at retailers worldwide + preorders start shipping tomorrow, September 13. This means official firmware STILL isn’t available. Our teams are constantly working to fine-tune firmware up until on-shelf day + beyond. We encourage you to update your HERO12 to the latest firmware when it becomes available on the Quik app later today. Since we don’t know what firmware you have, you should first factory reset your camera to make sure the production firmware loads correctly. This will help with your comparison + future reviews 👍
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It's great to finally hear from you guys, it would be great if you could drop me an email and we could talk a little more, I have a few questions that I'd like answered to help me with my upcoming reviews. Yes, retailer human error + KZbinr go together like peas and carrots, I couldn't resist. I will of course follow your instructions and factory reset the camera before I do the official update via the Quik app to bring my audience and the KZbin community the most authentic GoPro videos possible to help, educate and inspire. Thanks for getting in touch 🤜🏻🤛🏻
@cdjxwubcyex
@cdjxwubcyex Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba I have noticed that after "getting in touch" many reviewers starts to praise these cameras, like there's no tomorrow...
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I like sticking to be open and honest, even when I work with other companies similar in size to GoPro, I am honest in my reviews. I believe this type of honesty helps companies grow, allows them to improve their products and if they listen, gains them a ton of respect from the community as well as loyalty.
@EspenJohan
@EspenJohan Жыл бұрын
@GoPro what would have been smart is to send the camera for testing to smaller channels as well. It would make everything more believable. Many of the larger channels have lost all their credibility. They don't even use the cameras. Those of us who actually engage in outdoor activities are the ones you have to focus on. Just a little tip from a fan of GoPro
@ItzSKYVlogs
@ItzSKYVlogs Жыл бұрын
Yooo that’s pretty dope that you guys reached out to P!!! You guys are some reals one! 😎🥷
@rodneyrobbie
@rodneyrobbie Жыл бұрын
The 11 looks better hand down! Very clear & crispy! Not sure what the settings on both camera’s are set on, but yeah just my opinion from your footage!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Both had the same settings, but later on hdr and flat profiles. The hdr vs natural ofcourse makes the Hero 11 sharper and more contrasty.
@Flyer2303
@Flyer2303 Жыл бұрын
Was the lense clean? Looks odd. Could be a dodgy firmware too of course. 😉
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
@@Flyer2303 I think it was, but I can't be 100%. It was when I started filming, that's certain.
@abekislevitz
@abekislevitz Жыл бұрын
HDR automatically sets the ISO so during lowlight, HDR generally will have softer details due to needing to crank the iso higher for the dual exposures.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
@@abekislevitz I'm really enjoying hdr, I was playing with it more today, and whilst it does the iPhone sun-bed look on my face when it's getting a little too much sun as apposed to the shadow areas it generally does a superb job. The amount of detail it retains in the highlights is wild compared to the standard profile, and therefore really has its uses if taken advantage of in the right situations. Thanks for dropping by Abe, it's an honour. I've been buying GoPros since the late 00's, it's fascinating to think you've had an input on no doubt all of them.
@rasmushag
@rasmushag Жыл бұрын
is it only me or does the 11 look a little bit better outside?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I’d say the same looking at the first shots in natural vs natural.
@rasmushag
@rasmushag Жыл бұрын
i have a gopro hero 9, should i buy the 11, 12 or wait until a new gopro comes out? @@PhillipSkraba
@iamralpgonzales
@iamralpgonzales Жыл бұрын
I waited for hero 12 before I buy a Gopro but I think the difference on the 11 is not that a big deal (for me) - better to buy the 11. but great review Philip! cheers!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
If it’s between the two, I’d go with the Hero 12, it has all the options and more minus the GPS.
@octny
@octny Жыл бұрын
no GPS is a big minus! many people use it even just to take photos when travelling in remote places, to view them later on a map!@@PhillipSkraba
@bomatravels
@bomatravels Жыл бұрын
Honestly i dont see a noticeable difference 😅 Firmware update! I have hero 10 and got action4 last week. Thanks for the video 🙏🏻
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Well, I think the hdr, GP-Log and Max Lens Mod 2.0 will make a big difference. The Action 4 is an excellent camera, it's a good choice.
@yathaloka-866
@yathaloka-866 Жыл бұрын
Good gopro in every time gopro hero 7 black, hero 9 black hero 11 black
@LookatBowen
@LookatBowen Жыл бұрын
Hero 11 looked better in most of your video review. HDR in hero 12 looks good. Get rid of the gym membership, buy a concept 2 rowing machine. Sorted! Great video as per usual. Action 4 for me. I'm still on the GoPro Hero 7, so I think that will be awesome upgrade
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Lol gym membership doesn’t work. Hero 7 to Hero 12 is an awesome upgrade 🔥
@AlrotaMusic
@AlrotaMusic Жыл бұрын
13:52 Had both of them the same hypersmooth settings? To me the GoPro 11 just worked so much better there. Not sure if it's due to HDR mode then?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It's possible, I will be updating my asap and trying out all the stabilisation settings in a dedicated video soon.
@AlrotaMusic
@AlrotaMusic Жыл бұрын
5:45 "Maybe that's something they'll add in a firmware upgrade" - That firmware update takes a year and is called GoPro 13 😂
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Lol, you guys!
@armando.visuals
@armando.visuals Жыл бұрын
🙋HDR doesn't work when light is constantly changing in my experience. HDR works best when the scene between the shadows and highlights have more contrast. Which is why in 05:12 the 12 looks better and the in 05:39 the 11 looks better. So it all depends what situation you use it for. But the 12 having HDR is of course a good thing.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's very true. Some situations make hdr look really bad, and it's our creative choice when we choose to use it. If you're using it in a professional way, you'll know that and use it to your advantage. I think it's a good thing too, we now have an extra choice.
@gurahamu4718
@gurahamu4718 Жыл бұрын
I think had GoPro called this the 11+ (a bit like the 3+ all those years ago), I don't think there'd be as much negativity. My GoPro 7 black recently failed (power button and leaky seal) and after looking around and researching, I went with the OA4 for my specific use cases. Liking it so far, but I think GoPros are pretty good too. I'm more surprised how little GP12 coverage there is relative to other launches, but seems the odd embargo and perhaps not seeding as many units accounts for that? Sure, if you have a 10 or 11, maybe not a need to upgrade, but I have no idea how many people upgrade action cams annually.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Annually is crazy, every 3-4 years sure. I buy them or get them for reviews, that’s all. The OA4 is excellent!
@lapuraneta509
@lapuraneta509 Жыл бұрын
Hello I enjoy ur videos. Quick question was the hero 12 lens dirty it looks like a smoky film not clearlike the hero 11.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It’s possible I touched it, it’s almost 30c out here, so hot and sweaty. As real as it gets, rarely is a GoPro lens crystal clear 😂
@pjazzz353
@pjazzz353 2 ай бұрын
I see the same
@SAGAR_S_JADHAV
@SAGAR_S_JADHAV Жыл бұрын
Thsnks I find fish eye view in gopro is annoying
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It is a little fish eye, I prefer the straight lines on the Action 4.
@paularckless7254
@paularckless7254 Жыл бұрын
When you used HDR i still thought the Hero 11 on most of the video looked better and when your video got to about 6.31 the Hero 11 footage was far better than the Hero 12, i think in all the videos i have seen so far the Hero 12 is no better and in some footage worse than the Hero 11, i will stick to the Hero 11 and see what the competition brings out.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think it's basically the same, and for hdr, you'd have to be a hdr fan, which I am not, but it does have it's use, in low light for example, there it works magic.
@EspenJohan
@EspenJohan Жыл бұрын
Sorry to say, but I cant see any difference. Yes HDR do something, but upgrading from hero 11. Nope!. I have the Hero 10, works fine. Sometimes. I also have action 4, looks better then hero 12
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
The Action 4 is excellent. I don't think the upgrade is needed from the Hero 11 unless you use this in a professional environment, where you can make use of GP-Log, time codes and hdr here and there. If you're on the Hero 10, sure, that's worth an upgrade.
@EspenJohan
@EspenJohan Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba Truth be told, you are actually one of the few channels on KZbin that is honest and sincere. And the GoPro Hero 12 seems to be a good camera, but I think many had hoped for more. But possibly next year👍
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Thanks, I take pride in that. I think it's a great camera, with a ton of new options for pros, and sure, maybe next year they'll be ready for a bigger sensor, 8k, fireworks and all that jazz. We'll see.
@michaelgiordano
@michaelgiordano Жыл бұрын
HDR mode looks good in this. I'm interested in seeing the lens mod. Battery life claims seem very exaggerated. Also, I'm going to keep saying there is zero reason the 11 can't have live preview. If it can stream to social media and record internally at the same time then it has all the capability, GoPro is just gatekeeping this feature to entice and upgrade to the 12. It's too bad GoPro doesn't offer some type of software upgrade for the 11 with the purchase of the new lens mod.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
The hdr looks great, and believe me, I was pissed from the Hero 8 and up that GoPro didn’t have live view record.
@spirittravels.
@spirittravels. Жыл бұрын
How is the Hero 10 compared to the 11?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Pretty similar.
@spirittravels.
@spirittravels. Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba cheers
@fromia1
@fromia1 Жыл бұрын
The worst criticism I hear for the Action 4 is the micro jitters from the stabilization. Would be interested to hear if there is a difference between RS and RS+, and if there is a difference compared to Hypersmooth 6.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I will be testing that pretty soon too. However I don’t notice any in my Action 4.
@maryetdave
@maryetdave Жыл бұрын
Heard that there is a DJI update that just came out to help with the jitters
@JoJoEnglish
@JoJoEnglish Жыл бұрын
Nahh not much of a difference for what I need. The DJI Action 4 seems to be the clear winner in this video
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
If you're coming from a Hero 11, yeah, not so much for everyday vlog use.
@JoJoEnglish
@JoJoEnglish Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba Ya if you have an 11, not sure why you would upgrade unless you just do upgrades just because... I'm coming from the Hero 8 and Insta X2, but I'm digging the Action 4 the most out of all of them.
@gggg
@gggg Жыл бұрын
If you move your eyes to the center by connecting both images, you can achieve a stereo effect in this video😄
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Lol, you!
@liquidalloy
@liquidalloy Жыл бұрын
Great video. I'm sticking with my 10 for a while. These upgrades on the 12 are nice, but i will hold off for the 13 possibly.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
The Hero 10 is great, mind you, the Hero 12 really feels like a good upgrade. I'm sure the Hero 13 will be a monster.
@liquidalloy
@liquidalloy Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba agreed!
@charchitgoyal2325
@charchitgoyal2325 Жыл бұрын
Using Dji to shoot a comparison between Gopro 11 and 12. Noicee man 😂
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I like to live dangerously 😂
@simonlynch1412
@simonlynch1412 Жыл бұрын
And I’m actually considering buying that now instead of the GoPro is the footage from that looks great.
@DJPREZ
@DJPREZ Жыл бұрын
I currently have a hero 9 and I’m looking to upgrade.. what would be the best option? GH12 or A4?? Thanks!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Both are excellent options, and I’d say both are on par with each other. If you need hdr, GoPro has it, if you prefer a simple menu system and native quick release system DJI has it. I’ll be putting them against each other in the next few days, you can see what happens.
@DJPREZ
@DJPREZ Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba thanks for the response! I appreciate that! And yes.. all those points you mentions is what makes it so complicated to choose! Can’t wait to see your next video! 🫡
@11.Pierre
@11.Pierre Жыл бұрын
Just what I was looking for. Let's see which 1 of these I grab, it's time to toss my old go pro hero 5 lmao
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Oh my gosh, yes it is!! Well, don't toss, just put in on the shelf. The Hero 12, that's the one to go with, no questions asked.
@zl1booker
@zl1booker Жыл бұрын
Thanks Phillip
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@timmark4190
@timmark4190 Жыл бұрын
Looks like 12 under exposes a bit when compared to 11 and thus recovering the highlight. 12 has more saturation and contrast
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Yes, that's possible.
@burakyegul876
@burakyegul876 Жыл бұрын
Is this good something or no?
Жыл бұрын
Hi Forest ;) First of all thank you for some semi low light test. I watched your video at my 50 inches TV to see detail differences between both camera and here it is what I spotted: 1. HDR is amazing if we talk about scenes in 05:16 (we see what is outside in 12, we see nothing in 11) and 11:55. Thats really something. 2. I was looking at your t-shirt and 11 gave a smooth as baby face look of it. 12 gave as bumpy texturres a bit grundge effect which is acceptable. 3. Cons of HDR we can see at you face. Its a bit overdraw 13:10 or maybe its just my feeling. Anyway it was quite nice compare. I am looking forward for next episods. I bet GP will release better FW which correct some issues. At the and to be totally honest - if not HDR I see not much differnces between those devices. Audio is same, overall quality as well. To be honest I am still do not have reason to be shame as a owner of GPH7. Lets see with direct compare test with DJI4. Greatings. PS: I am still holding like GPU potencial buyers ;)
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Yes, on the face HDR is overkill, especially in bright sunlight. I like the GP-Log, still need to test that a lot more.
@piotr.wozniak
@piotr.wozniak Жыл бұрын
Kurcze nie zauwazyles ale miales oplackowany obiektyw podczas krecenia 12tka. Eh
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Bylo 28/30 dzisiaj w Lodzi, bardzo mozliwe, tak zwany - real life test.
@garethaustin1212
@garethaustin1212 Жыл бұрын
Best video I’ve seen. And based on it I’m about to order the 12! 👌🏻
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Well thanks for that! Glad you picked it up, it's a really nice action camera!
@T4nkcommander
@T4nkcommander Жыл бұрын
Yeah, just a software updated 11 without the GPS unit - so you are paying for downgraded hardware. The HDR saves post-processing but better results can be gotten out of the 11 if you are color grading. I'm usually the first to say get the latest GoPro as they are worth it but this is the exception that proves the rule. Shame GoPro won't update the 11 to have some of these features, since the hardware is clearly capable of it.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think the real difference is the Max Lens Mod 2.0, I’m looking forward to that.
@T4nkcommander
@T4nkcommander Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba That's true - the enhanced FOV is nice. But is is frustrating knowing my 11 could do it, if GoPro just released the firmware update for it.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It's possible, maybe, I have no idea.
@thieudtcvlogs6312
@thieudtcvlogs6312 Жыл бұрын
Ủa sao xem bền cam 12 lại hơi hơi bị mơ và tối vậy,,rất khó hiểu
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
No idea.
@yasunakaikumi
@yasunakaikumi Жыл бұрын
OA4 vs GPH12 comparison LFG
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Will be coming asap.
@Kenflyer
@Kenflyer Жыл бұрын
Fantastic comparison! Can you overexpose GP-Log like SLog-3 or not?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Nah, I’d probably keep it clean, I don’t think this sensor will handle overexposure too well.
@ephemeralmoments
@ephemeralmoments Жыл бұрын
Nice first testing! I can't stop wondering if you happened to touch the lens of your GP12 somewhere during the review. It might also somehing else, but to me the lens seems not to be perfectly clean. When filming against the light the contrast considerably drops on GP12 and the dark areas become too bright... Regarding the battery, it would be nice to have a test under exactly the same conditions. HDR on GP12 probably needs a little bit more power. On the other hand GPS should be switched off on the GP11 (if not already done). Looking forward to more comparisons.
@dbsranchr
@dbsranchr Жыл бұрын
That’s what I thought too.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It is very possible. Hot and sweaty 30c here today, but I guess that makes it an even more authentic test, as I think most GoPros are dirty. More comparisons on their way 🤘🏻
@dbsranchr
@dbsranchr Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba it’s been a brutal summer here too. Thanks for the review!!
@divyeshpatil7857
@divyeshpatil7857 Жыл бұрын
I am going to buy GoPro 11 ..uts really heating problem? Please suggest
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I’d go with the Hero 12 if you have a choice.
@alwhitney68
@alwhitney68 Жыл бұрын
Love the 10 bit HDR colour on the 12, that alone is worth the upgrade
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think it does a good job, except in bright sunlight on the face.
@octny
@octny Жыл бұрын
i can barely tell the difference since I cannot enable the high bit rate due to SD card compatibility issues
@mikkel1470
@mikkel1470 3 ай бұрын
I NEED SOME HELP. I am going to buy 11 or 12. and honestly, i dont think that i have so much use for the upgrade. i am going to use the gopro when hiking, fishing and maby freediving. The problem i have is that i dont really know how much i am going to use log and HDR. And when it comes to the wide camera stuff, i mean that not alot of people have 4k or 5k monitors, so am i going to have use for the upgrade from 11 to 12 camera quality? I dont really care about the prize difference, just think that i can get a tripod with the 11 and still be under the prize of the 12. If someone can give me some answer, then i would be very happy
@zigmilimbujames1940
@zigmilimbujames1940 Жыл бұрын
The stabilization is better in hero 12 then hero 11
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Wait till I test Horizon Lock 🔥
@TravelingwithAndrew
@TravelingwithAndrew Жыл бұрын
Thank you for great comparison. Just wish to see LOG vs HDR to see who gets the best DR.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
GP-Log vs HDR on the Hero 12, I'll be doing that too.
@8passdimagfast
@8passdimagfast Жыл бұрын
Amazing hero 12 buddy
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@RetroBusker
@RetroBusker Жыл бұрын
Can u shoot hdr with 4k60 lock horizen with and without max lens mod 2
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I will be testing that tomorrow when the Max Lens Mod 2.0 arrives 🔥
@unclewillie7921
@unclewillie7921 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Phil I just went and bought one please do all the tests that you can the let us know what the capabilities are thank you
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Trust me, working hard to keep testing these. Congratulations on the purchase!
@nftcollectibles
@nftcollectibles Жыл бұрын
GoPro 11 look better i think
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think they look similar.
@rk71happyworld48
@rk71happyworld48 Жыл бұрын
Go Pro 12 HERO OFFICIAL THE KING:::::👍
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It's a very good camera, yes.
@simonlynch1412
@simonlynch1412 Жыл бұрын
I think the 11 looked better in most of them shots and what happened to the stabilisation as it didn't work at all ? You say let us be the judge as you have not seen it yet but now you have I would like to hear your opinion.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Well, I had stabilisation on oldschool stabe, no horizon lock. Once you turn on horizon lock, stabilisation takes on a completely different look. I will be testing all the different stabilisation modes as soon as the Max Lens Mod 2.0 arrives that I ordered.
@simonlynch1412
@simonlynch1412 Жыл бұрын
But surely now you have seen the footage you can’t say the 12 was better than the 11. By the way I have never owned a GoPro before so I am not anti GoPro and intend buying the 12 but I am disappointed with the 12 in this review
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I would say in natural profile, they are the same...but, there is an option for hdr, there is an option for Log footage, there is live view in record, there is time code, there is a new easy UI, there is an easy menu, the battery is a little better and it has a few more bells and whistles. Did you see Apple added a usb-c this year, a titanium body and apart from that, eh. We can't strive for huge steps every year.
@somaticHuman
@somaticHuman Жыл бұрын
Something is wrong with the lenses on Go Pro 12. The glare of the sun behind you makes me think that there are cheap plastic lenses with low transparency.
@MR-AK
@MR-AK 8 ай бұрын
Dont upgrade. I have both and you can easily color grade to do whatever you want with either. Their HDR isn't true HDR
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 8 ай бұрын
Well, yes, but, no. The Hero 12 improves on a LOT of problems the Hero 11 had.
@jpandrews2791
@jpandrews2791 Жыл бұрын
Hey Phil, when you mentioned auto boost I thought you were talking about your superlative running 🏃‍♂️
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
hahaaha, I run like I'm chasing someone who stole my GoPro!
@ItzSKYVlogs
@ItzSKYVlogs Жыл бұрын
Ayyywew great review P!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@jaysoncyclist
@jaysoncyclist Жыл бұрын
better stay hero 11
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
If you have one, sure, if not, go for the Hero 12.
@TommyDanger5
@TommyDanger5 Жыл бұрын
this is odd, but it seems like the GP11 is sharper than the GP12? Noticed that on your face the most. That seems weird to me.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think they're pretty comparable when it comes to the standard profile.
@recharged0
@recharged0 Жыл бұрын
the eleventh GoPro takes better pictures than the twelfth Gopro
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It does?
@techtonictim
@techtonictim Жыл бұрын
First to say First 🙂.. nice video thanks
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Thanks! Tried to keep it a real and simple as possible. I'll be testing more, especially one video only on stabilisation, just waiting on the Max Lens Mod 2.0
@christopheolax3623
@christopheolax3623 Жыл бұрын
Exact the same zero différence
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Yep, pretty similar till you turn on hdr or GP-Log.
@shujatsharma4936
@shujatsharma4936 Жыл бұрын
12 is noisy
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Well, as is every previous version.
@chrisfrombelgium946
@chrisfrombelgium946 Жыл бұрын
HDR looks great.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It does a good job in certain circumstances.
@xXadambXx
@xXadambXx Жыл бұрын
maybe it's too much of a request, but I'm curious about the comparison between gplog and gopro lab wide on in hero 11. for professionals, gopro lab can be set like a timecode (TCAL). supposedly you can change it yourself LOGB = logbase, offset only from hero 11. the question is whether this is all they introduced, maybe all these new things in hero 12 are proven experiments on gopro lab (I ignore the bluetooth connection). I see that in darker conditions the camera does not try to brighten the image so much, but rather maintains a fast shutter speed, they even changed the basic speed to maybe 1/50-60s, whereas in Hero 11 it is definitely 1/30 at settings 25/ 30 fps is better because I locked it at >1/100, where the stabilization still works.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think little has changed, smoke and mirrors really. As I keep saying, the Max Lens Mod 2.0 is where the real magic happens.
@KamilZabost
@KamilZabost Жыл бұрын
Dlaczego obraz z kamery która była na rigu po lewej umieściłeś w kadrze po prawej? 2:48 haha, kurde jaki zonk, nie wiedziałem co się dzieje na początku...
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Taki mindF dla was 😂
@TheHeadlessChefDC
@TheHeadlessChefDC Жыл бұрын
The biggest obvious difference is the 12 has lower light issues. It's not as good as the 11. At least so far from looking at this video. In other words, you'd be an idiot to get the 12 at this point.
@yasunakaikumi
@yasunakaikumi Жыл бұрын
only cult buys every GP line up and I see everyone brand loyal at that level with GP so it's beyond idiotic lol...
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
We’ll see, I’ll carry on testing.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I guess so. I buy to test for you guys.
@TheHeadlessChefDC
@TheHeadlessChefDC Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba the test you did was way more than enough. Any other tests aren't going to make any real difference. I do appreciate your reviews, but in this specific case, another test simply isn't necessary.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I personally feel it's a great camera, and I'm sure updates will do a lot in this case, as they do with others cameras like the DJI and Insta360 ones.
@justpovbusnotalking
@justpovbusnotalking Жыл бұрын
clearly the stabilisation is better/smoother on gopro 12
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think so too.
@ExcellentfilmsTube
@ExcellentfilmsTube Жыл бұрын
Your run is simply... epic - like "Chariots od fire" - you're definitely GOing PRO :D
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
hahahahaha 😂
@DimmanExploring
@DimmanExploring Жыл бұрын
i got the new gopro 12 but i cant get the gopro update the lastest firmware did you got any issue?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
You can’t yet, it won’t come out till tomorrow. I have a GoPro “special” firmware update 📛
@DimmanExploring
@DimmanExploring Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba aha thank you i was getting crazy all day hahahaha then i though only big Yter can use it ,but i wanted to be 100%, thank yoi for the reply
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
@AbroadWithJimmy yeah, tomorrow it will be usable.
@goyetus
@goyetus Жыл бұрын
Maybe is firmware .... but im dissapointed. Hero 11 video has better image clarity , lower grain in low light, and better in general...... It seems the "battery fix" to 12 comes with a big cost. In PC, there are a few codecs and not "magic" as Go Pro says..... Hope im mistake.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think it's all down to use case scenario. The Hero 12 is not a huge update from the Hero 11, BUT, it is an excellent camera, with a few more choices that make a difference to pros. If you're coming from the Hero 10 or lower, sure, it's worth the jump up.
@goyetus
@goyetus Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba THANKS a lot for the video. I Will upgrade from Hero 8. Will see Next days... you are the first!!!
@SKYNETTECH06
@SKYNETTECH06 Жыл бұрын
I was about to vomit with lots of shaking Jesus
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
See, and you didn’t even have to drink.
@allenmyers8568
@allenmyers8568 Жыл бұрын
The reason the Hero 11 and Hero 10 don't display live preview while recording is that GoPro was sued on copyright infringement for this technology. I guess they've re-designed it. Whether it is a good as originally intended, I don't know. Whereas DJI has been using its own proprietary preview for several years.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Apparently so, those are the rumours on the street.
@maryetdave
@maryetdave Жыл бұрын
Per GoPro the 11 should get it in 2024 as an update
@AnthonyDiPalma
@AnthonyDiPalma Жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you. What bag are you wearing?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Ahhhh thanks! The Wandrd 3L sling, it’s absolutely fantastic!
@YouTubeshortsandreelsface
@YouTubeshortsandreelsface Жыл бұрын
Which one i buy for my travel vlogs I dont have any experience of gopro and dji action 4 Suggest me which camera i should have to buy
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I’d probably still go with the Action 4, I know it’s reliable.
@yo_shooting
@yo_shooting Жыл бұрын
Same camera, same image, maybe the HDR is better but this is not the most important feature. Marketing is great but let see other review and comparaison with GoPro 11 and action 4
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Marketing on GoPro's side is immensely strong, we can't deny that. Both cameras seem pretty comparable though.
@ia6980
@ia6980 Жыл бұрын
I ordered 12, cuz lost my 11, but why 12 is much darker in most of your comparisons? Thats a big no for me, image looks much darker!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
That really depends on what profile you’re using. It’s the same on the first natural shots, I wouldn’t say it differs.
@Melo-z4i
@Melo-z4i 10 ай бұрын
U feel like the cams were switched around like the first 10min hero11 was looking very sharp n crisp then afterwards it was hero 12
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 10 ай бұрын
Everything was correctly tagged 🔥
@snipeslayer
@snipeslayer Жыл бұрын
@17 mins in you look like a nice dude doing the shimmy. nice.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It's quite a crazy pov, I know.
@liquidalloy
@liquidalloy Жыл бұрын
HDR making a huge difference, all that is needed in the new Gopro is a larger image sensor
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
HDR makes a massive difference here.
@liquidalloy
@liquidalloy Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba I'm impressed with how nice it works. Great video btw
@jordanedelen3291
@jordanedelen3291 Жыл бұрын
Theres only one spot where the 12 looked better . The 11 clearly is better . So basically what showed is dont buy a 12 . Its not better .
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Really? Where? To me they're identical in standard mode, apart from that, sure they differ as the Hero 12 has the added options of HDR, GP-Log and the Max Lens Mod 2.0.
@kamilhusna94
@kamilhusna94 Жыл бұрын
Lets go OA4 vs Gopro 12… please cover the low light. And maybe some selfies photography. Love your honest review, subscribed for all the dji vs gopro rivalry series. Hahah. Please make indepth interesting review. Keep em coming.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I will be dropping the DJI Action vs GoPro Hero 12 soon, thanks 😂
@kamilhusna94
@kamilhusna94 Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba actually i bought the OA4, used so its surprisingly cheap. Waiting for a good comparison to justify trying out the gopro 12. Main usage not for extreme sports, just vlog & a lil photography for me and my wife. As we dont like to bother other people asking to take our photos. I think what bothers me, shadows on face can be quite dark on the oa4.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
That's why I like making videos like these, out there in the streets, like 99% of action camera users do. I'll drop my comparisons in the next coming days.
@regislaveuve
@regislaveuve Жыл бұрын
Hi, thanks for your video. You used HDR on gopro hero 12 during the test ?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Sure, if you watched it, you’d know 😂
@leonwangls
@leonwangls 3 ай бұрын
I don't see any difference for HDR
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 3 ай бұрын
There is some in the lights and darks and it kind of kills the skin on my face in the bright sun.
@sergeig685
@sergeig685 Жыл бұрын
THe 11 looks waaay better in low light. I mean look at 8:14, you can't even see his face on the 12. wtf
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
You noticed what's happening with the background though, the Hero 12 retains all information whilst the Hero 11 looses it.
@kymmoulds
@kymmoulds Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great review and comparison as always Phillip. I'm sticking with my Hero 11 at this stage. Would love to see a review of the Hero 12's bluetooth and wireless GO. That said thanks again for a great and honest review and a BIG thumbs up.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Thanks Kym! I'll be testing the audio shortly, I'm very interested in that subject too.
@lyric.kayden
@lyric.kayden 8 ай бұрын
I don’t own either but looking at buying one of these two. I can definitely say after watching this video and several others that the HERO11 looks much better. I’m being totally unbiased here as I don’t own either but I’m in the market. I don’t even understand DJi Action 4 as every video the HERO11 looks so much better than the DJI Action 4. Trust me I don’t mind $500 for the right one, not a problem but geez I’m totally shocked the more I see. Maybe it’s the perfectionist and knitpicker in me lol. I’m sure for anyone that any of these could would be amazing.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 8 ай бұрын
I think it’s the introduction of hdr, but you can turn that off and it looks much more natural. The Hero 12 is by far the better choice in every single way, I’m unbiased too, I own all of them, and the Hero 12 has great improvements over the Hero 11, especially battery life and reliability.
@lyric.kayden
@lyric.kayden 8 ай бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba sounds awesome, that is what I’m leaning towards myself. Thank you 😊
@Patrickunterwegs
@Patrickunterwegs 8 ай бұрын
Great comparison. I still have one question which GoPro couldn't or didn't want to answer. For me I like to film im Flat or future then in GP-Log. For me it seemed that GP-Log also includes some HDR-features, because the background was not burned out in the parking garage at 8:21 before you started to run. The silver car in the background was with Hero12 very good to see, but with Hero11 completely burned out. Do you have an info/feeling about if HDR is also part of GP-Log?
@emsenjansgasten
@emsenjansgasten Жыл бұрын
15:40 lets hope Dji brings update,you prob mean the Go Pro
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Yeah, you know me, tired, sweaty, don't know my foot from my arse at the moment lol.
@matlarasta
@matlarasta Жыл бұрын
Go pro 11 is better, no flare better grading and better shadows .
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Not so sure about that looking through the footage, they seem very similar in natural mode.
@hmmme3
@hmmme3 Жыл бұрын
I bought the 11 on sale a couple of weeks ago not knowing the 12 was about to release. I live on an island and thought we wouldn’t see the 12 any time soon so I was content. Today I went to the store and saw they had the 12 in stock and I couldn’t pass it up! Luckily I was still in my return window for the 11.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Oh no way!! You lucky soul!! You'll love it, hdr will come in handy for some nice island shots 🔥
@EhCloserLook
@EhCloserLook Жыл бұрын
I did something similar… I bought the 11 before I left the USA for a long trip. That said, IDT I’m going to return it (in the near future) in order to get the 12. What do you guys think?
@Hfdsyi0pnvcx
@Hfdsyi0pnvcx Жыл бұрын
Спасибо за видео bro.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@prathapds
@prathapds Жыл бұрын
Hero 11 is good ❤❤
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
It is good, it also has GPS!
@neilmacon8411
@neilmacon8411 Жыл бұрын
maybe its my old eyes..but he hero 11 looks better to me !!!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think that's what people see when they see the hdr or GP-Log profiles, but in natural they look pretty much the same.
@memoriestattoostudio6791
@memoriestattoostudio6791 Жыл бұрын
12 has better details ❤
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Well, when we use hdr, it really pulls a lot of them out of the highlights, that's for sure, or at least we get that impression. In general, the Hero 12 is panning out to be a fantastic camera, loving it.
@rickparkinmoto
@rickparkinmoto Жыл бұрын
The 12 does seem like an overall improvement, albeit evolutionary rather than revolutionary, but from your footage it appears to suffer from considerably worse lens flare when the light is behind you @7:16. I've got one on order anyway. I've already got the 11 so now I'll be able to have one both front and back on my motorcycle (the 11 with the GPS on the front).
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Now that sounds like a solid setup. The Hero 12 will be great as you'll be able to have live view whilst you're recording now, big deal for mounting.
@n0.-
@n0.- Жыл бұрын
Imo hyperview is WAYYY too distorted. I prefer the 8:7 shape. On my Hero11 I love using the 8:7 feature Also I hope somebody tears down this camera to confirm whether the GPS has been removed or just disabled in software.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think that would be a waste of a camera lol. The distortion is wild, yep, I much prefer the straight lines on the Action 4.
@n0.-
@n0.- Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkrabaI don't think it would be a waste bc of FPV pilots removing screen, battery, etc from GoPro to make it lighter for FPV drones
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Well, they have the Bones, I think that's what they use a lot. I think.
@cfthoo6240
@cfthoo6240 Жыл бұрын
The video for gp11 is better in this video
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
In what part of the video? In the first shots where they're both at natural profile, they look identical. All the other profiles are choices that the Hero 12 has over the Hero 11...
@rogerking5197
@rogerking5197 Жыл бұрын
It Stays clear at all times you see it for Yourself
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Still identical, except when I turn on other Hero 12 features.
@rogerking5197
@rogerking5197 Жыл бұрын
Is actually the hero eleven looks better
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Looks identical to me.
@bbofficial6544
@bbofficial6544 Жыл бұрын
Facing heating problem in Go Pro 12?
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
No, it hasn't overheated on me yet, no.
@ItzSKYVlogs
@ItzSKYVlogs Жыл бұрын
I get mine tomorrow at a gopro event here in the Netherlands. Can’t wait to do a review! 🥷😎
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
You’re going to love it!
@graphguy
@graphguy Жыл бұрын
Gph11.2
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I think the real difference will be the Max Lens Mod 2.0
@graphguy
@graphguy Жыл бұрын
@PhillipSkraba ok... we shall see in your next vid!
@los_kiros
@los_kiros Жыл бұрын
In your running test (Audio in camera part) looks like GoPro 11 has much more better stabilization :DDD
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Well, I'll be doing a dedicated stabilisation video, where I turn on horizon lock, but I'm waiting for the Max Lens Mod 2.0.
@brokeforever
@brokeforever Жыл бұрын
Is it just me or does the 11 look way better? The 12 has that oversharpened over processed look similar to Action 4. 11 looks much better in terms of the overall video quality.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
I see it the other way. The Action 4 is way more natural, I’ll drop the Action 4 comparison soon.
@brokeforever
@brokeforever Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba from what I’ve seen on KZbin the colors are more natural on action 4 but I don’t like the sharpening it has especially in bushes and shrubs it looks fine in a city environment with straight lines but in nature the sharpening looks unnatural to me. And I’ve seen GoPro 11 looking a little smoother and more natural in that environment but different videos have different settings so I could be wrong but this is based on what I’ve seen in multiple comparison videos.
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
The Action 4 does seem more natural than the Hero 11, but we'll see, once I get to play with them a little more side by side all will be revealed. A few more days and I'll be on top of this.
@pjazzz353
@pjazzz353 2 ай бұрын
Hero 11 looks better overall
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba 2 ай бұрын
They're both great cameras, but if I had to choose I'd go with the Hero 12.
@79glastron
@79glastron Жыл бұрын
No GPS, 12 is a downgrade
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
That depends on your use case.
@don_rafau
@don_rafau Жыл бұрын
Najbardziej czekam na porównanie Action4 z Gopro12🤓Mega dobry test, pzdr!
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
Niebawem to tez zrobie 🔥
@don_rafau
@don_rafau Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba mógłbyś przy porównaniu zwrócić uwagę na problem z ostrością w Action4? Wiele osób zgłasza problemy z mocnym rozmyciem na bokach obrazu oraz zbyt dalekie ustawieniu focusa, przez co często przy vlogowaniu twarz jest niewyraźna. Byłbym mega wdzięczny, ponieważ właśnie stoję przed tym ciężkim wyborem (DJI A4 VS GP12) 🙈
@PhillipSkraba
@PhillipSkraba Жыл бұрын
@don_rafau nie mam tego problemu, ale napewno zrobie close up vlog style dla porownaniu 🤘🏻
@rajzabike
@rajzabike Жыл бұрын
@@PhillipSkraba też przyłączam się do tej prośby.
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