Made for action 💪 Thanks for putting HERO13 Black to the test, Ray!
@dqitwithbradАй бұрын
y'all need to start innovating again, its like y'all are behine 8 years..
@liljaeger2kАй бұрын
Agreed @@dqitwithbrad. After Hero 8 they lost their symphony.
@colacolagaming6924 күн бұрын
Hi GoPro I just bought the hero 13 black!😊
@donalhempenstall54062 ай бұрын
This seems to be absolutely peak KZbin. Insane. Well done.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!
@Venturello2 ай бұрын
Interesting video, started watching. Do note as far as I know, Apple will not fix warranty claims due to water damage. That just for me means ‘these iphones cannot be treated as a waterproof device’. Water resistant yea but I am not taking my >1k$ device into water or wet conditions purposefully until Apples backs their water proof claim with upholding that with a warranty.
@MrUled2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@coder5432 ай бұрын
I don't think the GoPro warranty covers water damage either.
@Thekidisalright2 ай бұрын
GoPro has declined my claim for water damage and Apple has exchanged my iPhone for a brand new one, same reason with Apple care warranty, no question asked, not sure where your fictional claim comes from
@larryhsieh2 ай бұрын
@@Thekidisalright I believe the claim for the phone (and the watch) is if you don't have AppleCare. If you do then you'll get the exchange (I assume under the normal "user damage" category). Not everyone buys AppleCare, and they have an (understandable) expectation that water damage should be instant free fix if it's advertised as IP68-rated.
@livewallberg2 ай бұрын
Apple care cost you more than a gopro
@edu58412 ай бұрын
Are you planning to make a comparison video of DJI ACTION 5 Pro vs. iPhone 16 Pro?
@roddyeskew39092 ай бұрын
The irony of KZbin only choosing to play this in 720p...
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
😂
@iTribe-xn9qe2 ай бұрын
Lucky you made this comment. I just changed it to 4k lol
@josh_kincaid2 ай бұрын
“Don’t overachieve; never ends very well.” 😂
@adegreen27312 ай бұрын
I notice Apple seem to have the same issue as DJI have with the likes of the OA4 when it come textures when moving. Just look at the road texture at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="170">2:50</a>, with the GoPro you can still see the texture of the road for example, with the iPhones it’s been smoothed over. This was the main reason I returned a DJI OA4 for a GoPro 11. I think it’s something to do with the compression algorithm used and possibly a limit on sd card bus speed with the DJIs.
@gogetoutsidepodcast2 ай бұрын
Agreed. All of the detail in the mid tones on the iPhone looked awful.
@milesmosna718614 күн бұрын
Can I ask why you went to a go pro 11 and not a 12 or 13 ? I’m new to all this . Trying to pick the best model
@vividthespis2 ай бұрын
Fun to watch. And somewhat informative as well. But as always, the best camera, is the one that you have on you. Great work.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Thanks 👍
@Attya-y2y2 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="222">3:42</a> -> GoPro looks 10 times better on these shots, but are you just using the native color profiles on both cameras? I would think using Apple Log (and ProRes quality) with a decent color grading in post should look better than what the iPhone shot looks like here, but then again I never tried shooting under water.
@anklexpress2 ай бұрын
the comedy here is top notch. this is a skill that needs to be unleashed more often!!
@sullfolife2 ай бұрын
i loved that video. watched it twice once to appreciate your work and the fun you both had doing that video and second to compare haha
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@onomemoses87352 ай бұрын
I don't have any of these gadgets but your video is both informative and fun to watch. I really enjoyed it. And that comment about over achieving 😅
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Thanks, glad you enjoyed it!
2 ай бұрын
Are you planning to make a GoPro 13 vs. DJI 5 comparison video?
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Yup, working on it! I'm one of the ones who won't agree to DJI's various contract policies requiring: A) Submitting all my review videos to them for approval B) Not making comments about footage in the Action 5 videos C) Exclusivity agreement to only talk about DJI products Thus, they refuse to send early access products anymore. No biggie, I just buy them myself, but it means I'm a little behind there. Hopefully it'll give you a more honest look at things.
2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker okay, this comment made me subscribe to you. I wish more people had the balls/spine to say... the truth
@LukasHalda2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker I expected it was that, been refreshing your channel daily for two weeks now in anticipation of that comparison :D I'm torn what to upgrade my GP10 to, the GoPro seems to have a bit nicer picture except for the dynamic range and I really want the integrated GPS - but low light video and altitude/depth sensor are swaying me the other way (my main use is as a motorbike dashcam, second is snorkeling). I expected the DJI's new diving profiles to be the thing that will convince me to jump ship, but it is hard to find comparison and the little I saw tested looked pretty underwhelming. It would be great if you included some snorkeling/freediving comparison in your review!
@Slowe945962 ай бұрын
Just seeing you two running and shooting makes it video gold. I can care less of the technical testing. lol. The cannonball style grading is also a close second!
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!! ☺
@Chirp2962 ай бұрын
I'm more of an Android guy, but it's clear that the iPhone is the first winner here. I can't believe the clarity of the audio and nighttime shots compared to the GoPro. The only plus of the GoPro is the underwater colors and the wide field of view. It's freaking amazing what the devices in our pockets have become.
@GiuseppeM2 ай бұрын
at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="485">8:05</a> the footage is way too choppy to be a 4k iPhone 16 Pro clip, meaning either you over compressed it or KZbin overcompressed those clips
@mikelewis35552 ай бұрын
Another classic Ray, thanks for getting my morning off to a great start!
@_Rol_2 ай бұрын
Fantastic video! The iphone does a awesome job, but due to the form factor and robustness it will never replace an action cam for action videos. Your review shows also, that an action cam can't compete in low light to a smart phone. Thinking a step ahead, maybe low light capabilities like promoted from DJI and insta360 are not a key feature for action cams, also because best camera is the cam you have with you - and that's usually the smart phone.
@Hydrogen1012 ай бұрын
The water video is amazing. My spouse is a Dutch triathlete too, so now I feel confident taking my phone in the water to film her technique
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Enjoy! Just give it a rinse afterward, and have a wireless charger handy for a few hours.
@marcofioretti59152 ай бұрын
iPhone in salt water? 😮
@ozncmr2 ай бұрын
What I got out of this video is that if you have an iPhone you don't need to buy an extra action camera.
@icecreamgecko2 ай бұрын
Lovely! Will you make a comparison video between the hero 13 and the action 5 pro, as well? In preparation for this years overdue upgrade of my motorcycle helmet-camera (I currently use a Drift Ghost-S) I am kind of torn between the two. From what I have seen up until now I love the GoPros detail in well lit conditions, but I also love the action 5 pro's low light performance. I would greatly appreaciate your input on this, as I really enjoyed your comparison of the last generation of the two. :)
@VTBullitt2 ай бұрын
Hi do you prefer GoPro in 5.3k or HDR? How does GoPro compare to iPhone with hdr?
@NihilimZA2 ай бұрын
Super informative and very entertaining... as always.
@sheppo2 ай бұрын
We appreciate you really giving your car’s suspension a good test for science too. 😊
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Thankfully...just a rental! 😂
@NegyedMisi2 ай бұрын
Mr and Mrs Splashmaker 😂
@123fourfivesix-g4i2 ай бұрын
I wonder if it’s possible for Apple to the horizon lock functionality through software.
@Steven.spendlesstime2 ай бұрын
Awesome review, i dont have the slightest idea of buying any of them but like you detalied test. Love how Bobbie is sitting and pointing at the bumps and giggling over what i guess she glad its not your own car. 😊 Look forward for the full review of the JetBlack victory and hope i orded the right trainer after your initial review of it.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Yup, working my way through that test!
@MCCraftAdventure2 ай бұрын
Not sure about the underwater though for the iPhone?
@DavidFerreira19862 ай бұрын
very interesting video.....thanks dude :D. I did not expect those results at all
@Vidushaka682 ай бұрын
As always a sensational video DC 🤟🏼❤️🔥
@graphguy2 ай бұрын
You are jaded, her cannonballs are truly superior to your juvenile attempt! ;)
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
😂
@TehObLiVioUs2 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="118">1:58</a> HAHAH you chasing after her with a camera at 1.5X speed looks funny XD
@chrisjoyce55392 ай бұрын
Great video I want both but I can't afford them lol. Q not related to video, please which is best watch for heart monitor cycling and measuring rem sleep thank you.
@ifitrollsrideit5302 ай бұрын
Within 5 seconds of watching the cannonballs I'd become world class armchair cannonball judging expert. (...much like watching Olympic diving despite me having no experience in diving what so ever!)
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
I’m waiting for the official judging results… 🤣
@apex_life2 ай бұрын
Now that's a genuine review/comparison!
@AlphaZuluPhotography2 ай бұрын
99% of peoples videos end up being played in 720p on Instagram or TikTok anyways.
@mxracingunlimitedltd77842 ай бұрын
That is pretty crazy how good the iPhone camera really has gotten. I have a 13Pro Max and i still love it.. Takes great pics and videos and its all I need. I saw the 16 and decided to skip it.. Though knowing what I know now I wish I had gotten the iPhone 15 Pro Max when it came out with the Promo Price. Since its the newest iPhone you can get that doesnt have the AI Features / "Tracking" built-into the phone itself... iPhone 16 Pro vs DJI Osmo Action 5 Pro????! Did you make a video about the new DJI Action 5 Pro Camera yet?
@mikeprytherch88752 ай бұрын
Bobby wins the bomb, Ray wins for most entertaining review video 😀
@giveitusaraw2 ай бұрын
does the iphone telephoto lens record at 120fps?
@Artemis-v8i7 күн бұрын
no
@dannyw79752 ай бұрын
You gotta get the white balance right on the iPhone - that’s why it looks so blue. There are filters available too, to get the colors right underwater, or you may need to edit it later on to fit the real colors 😊 But it’s impressive what both iPhone and GoPro are capable of these days 😅
@iphar2 ай бұрын
Very interesting video with a nice proposition! 👍🏼 After watching it, I thought that if you're already predisposed to buy an iPhone anyway, and you don't already have an action camera - then yes, an iPhone will do just fine you're not too fussy about it. On the other hand, if you're gonna use it enough and your main goal is to capture lots of action content, then there is really no comparison with the GoPro. The cost difference must be a really BIG factor here. Moreover, if you buy an earlier model of the GoPro (to save money) you can still do just fine; the same maybe can't be said about an older iPhone for these kinds of action shots (and the savings are not that significant). PS: my girlfriend got jealous because I said your wife looks beautiful in some of the shots (she did not even give me time to explain it before hitting me 😄)
@slayzzzz29 күн бұрын
would be interesting to see a labs v pro-res comparison
@UserCommenter2 ай бұрын
Bro you’re so good at this - watched every second with interest. Subscribing rn and will be with you at least every year till the end of time 😃
@manwithnoname65802 ай бұрын
Would you be doing a comparison between the new pro and the hero sometime soon?
@Fly4aWhiteGuy2 ай бұрын
Which electric motorcycle is that at <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="26">0:26</a> ?
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Not sure, that snippet is from Apple’s Keynote
@Chloroo2 ай бұрын
why u didnt buy and make reviview about avata 2
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
It had such little new features over Avata 1, didn’t really want to waste my money on it (and honestly didn’t think I could justify the ROI on YT views to my accountant…read, my wife).
@sukisszoze2 ай бұрын
Have you thought about testing the Insta360 X 4?
@Korculanac112 ай бұрын
Man, i was impressed with iPhone's audio.. what a difference!
@josegilbertbadilla89882 ай бұрын
Which phone mount to chest harness are you using? <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="301">5:01</a>
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
I used a Peak Design case (my fav), along with their GoPro adapter mount. Works fairly darn well.
@sullfolife2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker is peak design case that worth it ???
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
@@sullfolife I've been using them since they first launched on Kickstarter (both myself and my wife actually), almost 100% for the bike case, which we use on our commuter/cargo bikes to hold our phones. Love it.
@timcollins3402 ай бұрын
Glad you had an adult with you for this! Funniest video I've seen from DCR...
@johnl12752 ай бұрын
Great video!!
@nztoddhaskell2 ай бұрын
I didn't know you could go underwater with iPhone!🤯
@joeanut2 ай бұрын
Why can’t they release an action cam with 3 focal ranges.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
One can dream!
@Ivan-up7ny2 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="348">5:48</a> Wow, the GoPro 13 is better, the image is sharp and the colors are more natural.
@Matrixtruesaiyan2 ай бұрын
This is good comparison! A lot for Apple to think about to make the next iPhone camera better.
@joyaclub2 ай бұрын
Your cannonball is why they call you the Rainmaker. :)
@rpjwhite2 ай бұрын
Bobbi looking very demure, very mindful in the car.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
😂
@melgross2 ай бұрын
That was really well done.
@kangsterizer2 ай бұрын
was expecting the iphone to be better looking but annoying to use for action, but nope, the gopro is far better. ive used android phones for the same stuff before and had similar results, if that the wide angle stabilization on the pixel seems to give you a bit more view. useable in a pinch, but no gopro, basically.
@bing50432 ай бұрын
I’m actually shocked at how much better the GoPro Hero 13 footage looked when compared to the iPhone 16 (except in the nighttime footage).I thought smart phones had made GoPro obsolete, but the GoPro footage is significantly better in some of those shots
@GameskoTV2 ай бұрын
iphone is waterproof?
@bens51862 ай бұрын
100% do NOT use an iPhone as an action cam. The iPhone cameras do not take vibration/shocks well and stop working. Last of the iPhones that were capable of dealing with “action” was the iPhone XR
@FreerideQuebec2 ай бұрын
The cannonball test killed me aha
@BocarandaFilms2 ай бұрын
No but the DJI Action 5 pro does. Please try to compare DJI vs hero. Thanks
@nr-xp3dc2 ай бұрын
When are we going to get just one device which can do it all! This tech seems never ending
@mikaelbiilmann68262 ай бұрын
Oh nice… my 13 pro max is waterproof? 😮 I heard bad things about GoPros… are they true?
@Coolcmsc2 ай бұрын
Can’t ring anybody or check your email with a GoPro… 😅
@simonwyndham2 ай бұрын
I think, ultimately, when it comes to using the cameras in situations where the device might take an impact, I'd rather risk the GoPro rather than the phone, and I certainly wouldn't want to use the phone on a helmet. That said, as you mentioned, the phone is nearly always with you a lot of the time.
@OrofinX2 ай бұрын
DJI Action 4 or definetly 5 PRO wins. The footage looks bad on both. But fun video as always ;-)
@josegilbertbadilla89882 ай бұрын
It would be interesting to have a comparison with the insta360 go 3s, small lens part only. I guess this would have the best weight advantage
@cdrbmw2 ай бұрын
GoPro Wins easy
@sbuz83862 ай бұрын
Go Pro seems to have more definition and detail.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Indeed, the 5.3K definitely helping in some of those cases.
@saintuk702 ай бұрын
iPhone seems to make most things blurry. The bubbles in the sea, during bombs, was not great at all.
@orvillealdrich76012 ай бұрын
Come for the tech, stay for the entertainment 👏 - I’d watch your vids even if you’re reviewing knitting needles ( not to discount the tech that goes into knitting!)
@reda4972 ай бұрын
There was a huge difference between iphone and gopro audio quality inside the car. I feel like gopro wins inside the water and record while runing
@ian-mucarruthers4412 ай бұрын
Is the GoPro not half the price? Or less... Gopro looks way better. And if/when you trash them. Way less painful.
@DanBirasi2 ай бұрын
Ever tried to place a call with a GoPro?
@stevenrast42612 ай бұрын
Forget GoPro, leave your iPhone 16 Pro safe in your pocket to be used for getting those beautiful pictures, and use an Action 5 pro for the actiony stuff
@MarkBowenPiano2 ай бұрын
You really should carry a warning about using any phone in saltwater. Definitely wouldn't ever advise doing that for two reasons. The first being salt water can help erode away the waterproof mechanism of any phone and then the second reason would be that it salt water then gets into your phone you've pretty much had it! I wouldn't even risk it in a fresh water lake as there are bacteria and microbes that could possibly get into the phone and cause problems. I'd always advise using a waterproof housing because if you do it a lot then I guarantee one day you're going to have a dead phone and it's going to be a day when you've not backed up the phone for a while. Of course you can ignore me and do as you please but it's just a polite warning as they're so expensive it's such a shame to put any phone through that.
@petrsvoboda39022 ай бұрын
Daaaaam !!!! Canon ball galore.
@MrSamPhoenix2 ай бұрын
Never really seen anyone dive an iPhone into the ocean like that!
@WayeOfLife2 ай бұрын
Brilliant😂😂😂.. but.. where is the dogcam footage?!!
@naversdoery2 ай бұрын
you are TOTAL bro.. keep it up
@DraconicAux2 ай бұрын
Although the iPhone is very water resistant, it’s not water proof. You’d be better off getting a water proof case or bag instead of exposing it directly to water, especially salt water.
@justinlikesme192 ай бұрын
Me watching in 720p 😂 on my iphone16 pro max
@a07z2 ай бұрын
Next video: mounts iPad on drone 😂
@ActiveIdeas2 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Nice one Ray 👊🏽
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Thanks!!!
@cyrilmtl2 ай бұрын
How many Iphone have been killed during the shooting of this video ? ;)
@PhannyObsession2 ай бұрын
Wow! So many GoPro haters (that have never owned a GoPro) in the comments!! 🤦🏽♂️
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
The power of paid anti-GoPro bot accounts continues to be strong…
@PhannyObsession2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker - I just don’t get it. If you think the AP5 is better, just go buy it. But, it’s like they get some strange pleasure from hating on GoPro. I think it’s because they’ve finally found a group they can be a part of. It’s like Apple vs Android 🤷🏾♂️
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
@@PhannyObsession No, I'm actually not joking. DJI pays individuals to run 100-200 accounts each, and then make comments on any video titled GoPro. The accounts are setup to follow the most popular tech creators, and then quickly fill the comment sections in the first 30-60 mins with anti-GoPro stuff. It's kinda impressive, but also silly easy to spot when you've been doing it long enough. Most comments parrot the same 2-3 things, and then won't usually respond back if you ask a meaningful question. Certainly, there are some very legit GoPro problems (and people that have them), but not as much as the internet comments section would make you believe.
@PhannyObsession2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker - Blimey! Didn't know that
@daweed_spieschl2 ай бұрын
I would never ever put my iphone in salt water without an underwater-case
@laszloturi96332 ай бұрын
The iPhone blue underwater color is more cinematic the the small camera look of the GoPro. I think overall the iPhone looks more like cinematic and the GoPro more like an action cam, like a GoPro😅😂😂
@mr.dikkens2 ай бұрын
It can actually do more
@a.1221o2 ай бұрын
GoPro is made for its purpose. Phones.. well pretty good in a pinch if that’s all you got. Someone once told me. Best camera is the one you got on you lol
@DigiDriftZone2 ай бұрын
The GoPro seems be falling quite far behind, a 3 year old tiny sensor just can't compete with the 1/1.3" sensors of even a year ago. Maybe a comparison with the Osmo Action 5 next? :)
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Which scene specifically was the GoPro actually falling behind on?
@DigiDriftZone2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker I mean compared to the ultra wide on the phone it's not too bad as that too uses a tiny sensor. But in general flaring, cheap looking footage, hyper sharp, crushed detail in the shadows, blown out highlights, poor skin tones. It's just all the hallmarks of a tiny sensor. I had the 12 which uses the same sensor but going to the Action 4 was a huge step up in dynamic range and general image quality. So the Action 4/5 and iPhone 15 Pro main cameras use 1/1.3" sensors, so does the Mini4, Ace Pro and a bunch of other cameras, the 16Pro main is now a larger 1/1.14", it would've been nice to have 1" like the Pocket3 but I guess there are size constraints. The GoPros for the past 3 years use a 1/1.9" sensor, that's tiny and a huge reduction in light gathering ability and dynamic range / detail take a blow - it's just physics.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
@@DigiDriftZone The problem is, as DJI themselves have demonstrated quite well, sensor size isn't everything. In fact, it's just a small portion of the entire imaging pipeline. After all, that's why while DJI beats GoPro in night comparisons, it doesn't tend to beat it in more general daytime low-light scenarios (e.g. cycling through a forest), where you'll see plenty of weird microjitters on the DJI cams. Everything else you noted has nothing to do with sensor size, and everything to do with processing. And this video also demonstrates that, where underwater the GoPro easily beats the color/etc of the GoPro, despite having a larger sensor size. All of that totally ignores the fact that DJI in the Action 5 silly low new 60Mbps bitrate, thus, any extra anything they had, gets lost (and why all the Action 5 footage looks so bad).
@DigiDriftZone2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker I don't think that's an accurate representation of what's happening. Micro jitters don't happen because of the sensor size, they happen because of the shutter speed exclusively, not post processing. Sure, the auto mode may be doing something more sensible with GoPro, that's good - well done GoPro. But you can always, always, always get better results with a larger sensor of a similar or newer generation by simply cranking that shutter to 1/200s (or as appropriate for the scene). As for everything else, can you give me an example where you manually set an appropriate shutter speed and use DLOGM on the Action4 where the GoPro comes even close to the same results? - I appreciate that for many people that are just using the auto mode, this is a bit irrelevant, but we're professionals, right? :) I agree, DJI need to unlock the bitrate on the Action5 so that it at least matches the Action4, what a strange decision by them.
@MrMichaelfalk2 ай бұрын
Who would ever use a phone as an actioncam? They are not excatly build for that.
@JAViewer2 ай бұрын
I mean, there's an action mode in there 😅
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Market sales would very clearly show people are using phones in place of action cams constantly now. Years ago, you’d never have run with a phone for usable footage, nor used it in a car on a bumpy road, nor submerged it. Now that’s commonplace.
@MultiTranceboy2 ай бұрын
Iam very sorry but Iam watching this 1440p on my samsung tab s9 and I dont know what camera you use for making video of vlog parts but its horrible, its oversaturated and quality sucks.sorry
@RaisedonTwoWheelsАй бұрын
One is $600, the other is $2000. Hardly a fair comparison
@disupovАй бұрын
Seems like it’s sponsored by gopro. I watched this video yesterday and iphone and gorpro 13 were equal. I bought gopro 13 today, made some setups and… the quality of photo and video a bit worse than in my iphone 8. Can’t even compare it with iphone 13 pro, because gopro is outside.
@DcrainmakerАй бұрын
Not sponsored by anyone. Good and bad of both cameras, depending on the scenarios. Plus, if it was sponsored by GoPro, I certainly wouldn't have put in night shots showing it bad....
@mritunjayvarun63692 ай бұрын
<a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="24">0:24</a> the video looks like cr@p ! Overexposed at so many places, just bad ! and this is what they presented on the event ? wow
@nicolasdarkdark2 ай бұрын
It was in HDR but this isn’t so it looks overexposed. Do some research before mindlessly making dumb comments like this.
@bober10192 ай бұрын
now do the same but with a depth of 10 meters underwater.
@veers0r2 ай бұрын
Was this video just an elaborate way of saying that the GoPro can't compete against other action cameras? Only half serious but it's a curious comparison for sure.
@Dcrainmaker2 ай бұрын
Huh?
@veers0r2 ай бұрын
@@Dcrainmaker because you compared it to a phone rather than other action cams. But again, I wasn't being all that serious with that. :)