GoPro Hero 7 Black, Best MTB Settings Test | 4K vs 2.7K

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hey all, hope this test is of some use! Make sure you're selecting 4k for best quality. Definitely going to be using Flat and grading in post to get the most out of the image. Let me know your setting that you are using for MTB POV footage 👍

[@absolutemtb6696]

Rob Rides EMTB hey man what you think the best Protune setting in a gopro hero 7 balck mounted on karma grip i know she dosent need a karma grip cuz of the hypersmoth but im just asking What you recommend the best protune for mountain biking with hero 7 mounted on the karma grip cuz I’ve tried 4k wt 30 fps and my footage looks a bit foggy white balance at auto sharpness 1600 evo -0.5 gopro color cuz i don’t like color grading low light off

[@alexalfonso5471]

At the end of the video I thought you said that you could not tell the difference between 2.7k and 4K, if that’s the case, why go with 4k30 rather than 2.7k60?

[@kernelspy]

I'm NOT a biker at all but i just stumbled upon your page to check out some GoPRO stabilization and man... this is sooo relaxing to watch going down that hill!!! KEEP up the good work! I just purchased a GOPRO HERO 7 because of this vid!!!! Can;t wait to use mine!!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks man! Enjoy the GoPro, kind regards, Rob.

[@allenkvextreme]

not only that you're a good rider but also the video quality is supreme and the audio is legit

[@JudoSurfer]

Lock shutter at 1/240 in low light for clean Hypersmooth. Unfortunate, these usually also means a higher ISO. Some people have said locking MIN and MAX ISO to the same value (800 for both) also helps.

[@streetpigeonmtb]

Hi Rob. Thanks for putting this together. I ride in some pretty dark places. Hero 7 is due to arrive imminently. Would you recommend setting the max iso higher to encourage the hypersmooth e.g. 1400/1600

[@shamonsteer]

I really enjoy watching this video!! Honestly for comparison between 2.7k vs 4k, it is really up to the individual of what they want their video to look like. For me personally, 2.7k is really awesome to showcase the story of the video especially when comes to MTB riding. Where as 4K is too clear like watching HD channels on TV and stressing on the eyes. But don't get me wrong, both resolutions are great!!

[@bjep5170]

2.7k no different to 4k as far as I can tell but the 4:3 ratio looks better than 16:9 on my laptop. The other settings are a bit too subtle for me to be able to tell... keep it up Rob- loving the footage.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks mate. Yes very subtle indeed!

[@MTBMOR]

I am doing the same thing you are doing and my videos are going fuzzy just like yours. On my screen my videos are clear as I am sure yours are too, but on youtube they get fuzzy sections. Do you know what is causing this?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Turn on 4K and use Chrome.

[@hawaiijames69]

Cool vid and great info on the GPH7! Can I ask why YT's never seem to mention the trails they use? I've watched about 100 MTB videos this month and only about 10 of them ever mention the the trail locations. Just wondering if that's intentional.

[@carlton683]

Hi rob great footage what trail are you on I liked all settings you used many thanks Tony

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks Tony 👍

[@olivierhacking]

Thanks for this insightful video! Do you personally notice a difference in image quality using Protune? Or do you only use it for better shadow detail?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

ProTune opens up further options that allow finer control, so yes, I'd definitely recommend it.

[@motionstku]

Nice video man. I did some tests yesterday too with my new go pro. I had the same problem like you. When I came into some shadow parts in the Forrest the material was really jiggery. It's unwatchable. Someone in the forum gave me the Tipp to put the GoPro to a fixed shutter speed like 1/120. I'll try that. I also have to mention that I used a chest mount. Today I build a mount for my normal Enduro helm on top and also will test this. I don't if the chest mount is stable enough ... My settings I want to test are: 2.7 / 4K 30FPS Superview EV -1 Iso max 800 1/120 shutter Wb 5500 Flat

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks for sharing. Lots of light needed for Hypresmooth.

[@motionstku]

@@shrimpquarantine1741 yeah I know. But it was not so dark...I mean it was in the Forrest, yes. But not really dark. What would be the solution ? Higher ISO? For sure less fps. Like 30. With less fps you need less light.

[@CamCakes]

hey man, how did the tests come out?? I want to get the hero 7 and chest mount without a gimbal as they are too expensive and will probs break did it live up to the standard??

[@Emeric992]

Hi Rob. Can you show us all the gopro mounts you use to have such results please ? (do you use the chest mount without the gimble, do you use chin bar mounts...) Thanks

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hey mate, I'm going to go a full setup vid soon showing all the stuff I use etc... Stay tuned :-)

[@Emeric992]

@@RobRidesEMTB Great, many thanks !

[@DavidSmith-wy5js]

Hi Rob, great piece what mapping app were you using to check the route ? ,thanks.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Cheers. ViewRanger it’s a great trail finder 👍

[@pfailli]

Hello very good looking footage, i am using fcpx as well and i am wondering which kind of compression senttings you are using to get this quality, from you comment i didn't understand if you are using a separate software to custom compress the video file and if so which settings you are using to export the project from FC. thank you!

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I’m going to do a tutorial on this but I export at 60Mbps to get the best possible quality on YT to try and get through their compression with something half decent at the end.

[@dirtforce0897]

@@RobRidesEMTB sure, but your file sizes must he huge then?

[@goranskok4983]

How does the chin mount affect the overall balance of the helmet? By the length of the lever arm, i'm guessing it's even more annoying than a forehead/visor mount. Either way, it captures best of both worlds...low angle and head movement if you look around.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hey Goran, it is slightly heavier but you forget about it after a while.

[@bjornericson2379]

That second setting looked great in the lighter areas with sunlight

[@robertdronum7961]

Where abouts do you ride? This trail looks insane! I just bought a new bike and wanna take it bombing somewhere nice :)

[@MikesMTBAdventures]

Rob, I've been experimenting with my 7 also. I find 2.7k at 30fps superwide the perfect option. E. V comp 0, WB auto, mic auto although I will set stereo with my wind slayer here now. Min iso 100 and max 800. Found this better in lower light although it does get jittery at times. A firmware update may resolve this. I do not grade as my comp is just to slow. Upgrade at somepoint. I think gopro colour protune does a pretty good job. We still need to meet Rob as proposed. Be a good laugh and comparison

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks for sharing Mike. Good to see and compare settings. I'll be free after next week if we can catch up! Cheers. Rob.

[@MikesMTBAdventures]

@@RobRidesEMTB be good to discuss things again bud. I'm free next weekend if any good? Can you call? Easier to arrange

[@JudoSurfer]

In low light settings, don't just set a higher Max ISO, Bump the MIN to 400. The camera will try for the lowest ISO forcing it to use a slower shutter (more blur).

[@MikesMTBAdventures]

@@JudoSurfer really useful. Have you tired this bud

[@JudoSurfer]

@@MikesMTBAdventures yes, but still playing around with it. I was just setting the max higher but still getting some blur. Set the MIN to 200 and it helped a little, but 400 with a lot of shadow seemed to work more consistently and doesn't bring in much noise. Haven't tested yet, but I suspect locking the shutter (not the "cinematic" doubling of fps) to three or even four times the fps might work too. Mixed lighting might be an issue though. Locking shutter should allow for lower max ISO (I hope).

[@madmark6061]

Have you got any footage from Cannock to come, I usually ride there Friday afternoon and Sunday morning. But crashed off my cube e-bike Friday and think I've fractured my scaphoid bone, so could be out for a while. But would have been their with you if I could. I think the 4K looks better....by the way that was the worst crash I've ever seen stew, keep it up rob

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Hi Mark, sorry to hear your crash - hope you can heal quick. I do have some Cannock stuff, I will be uploading it asap. Cheers, Rob.

[@huahintrainspotters]

What is the mic that you using with GP7B?

[@meditationparadise404]

Damn it looks cool in 4k /30 / Flat Colour

[@LeBoosLeisure]

Hello there! Great video! I am having such a hard time getting my MTB footage to look as smooth as I have seen others. I shoot in 4k and I have a new MacBook Pro with T2 chip and I use final cut pro. I can't get my videos to look great as I have seen others. I have seen some MTB videos in which it looks exactly like the GoPro 7 black footage on youtube. When I upload to youtube from FCPX, I have black side bars in 4k. When I get rid of the lines, KZbin only let's it go up to 1080p. Any advice?

[@dirtforce0897]

I agree, don't know how some of these guys get such high quality footage up on youtube...what am I missing? I've tried so many different compression combos but seems like always a trade off of quality vs file size.... are these people uploading 10GB files? Lol

[@collinnevels53]

Not sure if my answer is correct when shooting in 30 FPS you have to upload in 30 FPS same for 120 FPS or any other. Also your memory card needs to be up to par for catching the data for 4K.

[@dirtforce0897]

@@collinnevels53 upload in 30FPS? Uploading is uploading.. maybe you mean encode in 30FPS...I've done that, still no dice. One thing I did notice is the more filtering you do on the original video during the edit, the crappier the outcome.

[@lukelackermayer]

Hello hello hello I am here to help you simply need to upload your video in order to look like Rob or any other professional mountain biker in 2560x1440 Regardless of what resolution and frame rate your go pro Runs. I literally just found out the fix to this problem yesterday and did it and it works feel free to check out my first couple channels videos and the quality looks crappy but go to the most recent in the quality is uploaded and 1440 P if you’re viewing from a computer

[@ElevationStation1988]

Thanks for sharing!

[@Emeric992]

Hi again Rob. I do not find the Removu Wind Remover for the gopro 7 : did you order one for gopro 3 & 4 ? Does it match ? Or do you have another link ? And on amazon, it says that it comes with a protective lens cap : it matches with the 7 ? Thanks

[@dirtforce0897]

Rob, what is the 4:3 signify vs just standard 2.7K?

[@LuisMartinsmw]

What app was that your checking for the map?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

It’s called ViewRanger. Really good.

[@derfderf936]

Did you colour grading?

[@notsnho]

What is better for dirt bike? 4K30 or 2.7K60

[@louisvuittondom]

What mic setting did you use for this? Wind or stereo? How much color grading are you doing in post with color on flat?

[@dirtforce0897]

Curious, what bitrate do you export at and what file sizes are your typical YT uploads.? I can never seem to get high quality, low file size during the compression process..

[@septmbrsvryown]

How did you cut out the wind sounds and sensitive tapping sounds?

[@jamestorrance6102]

What are your thoughts on super view?

[@theoutdoors4688]

Do you recommend 16:9 or 4:3?

[@fmdbiking2567]

The Outdoors 16:9 because for 4:3 you have to fix it in post

[@LycheusDow]

I think that the 2.7K@30 is little more stable than 4K@30, but why use 4:3 instead 16:9 in 2.7K mode? Love your works. keep going!

[@worldpassholders1654]

Lycheus Dow i was wondering the same thing

[@shegocrazy]

Because the gopro sensor is 4:3. If you use the 16:9 then the camera crops the image. Using 4:3 you get the whole sensor image.

[@RIDEEMTB-sw1lc]

The 7 is great🎬

[@TubolMotoadventures]

How are u recording in 2.7k but Im playing 4k in youtube now? confused.

[@saintberry]

What colour correction and sharpening are you doing in post?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Barely anything, just a bit of blue in the shadows and a small amount of teal to bring up a bit of character in the trail.

[@alexandrecoutoyt]

hello, the settings at minute 7.42 are good for dark vision trails?

[@Joe2Jock]

Looks really good overall! Does seem a tiny bit dark. I'll try similar settings with EV at 0 and ISO up a little more, maybe 800 or 1200.

[@gingermattb]

What trails specifically are these? Is the first one Barry knows best?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yes 👍 the others I don’t know the names of, possible Supernova.

[@pmktravel]

why run at 30fps rather then 60fps for mtbing?

[@cnventer]

Keep up the good work. Dead cat? That refer to the wind jacket? Side suggestion - practice not locking up the rear wheel/brake. Will make you a smoother rider and improve video sound. :) Every time we ride with mates we play a game - 1 point each time someone locks the rear wheel - he with the most points buys lunch! :D

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yeah, it’s the wind jacket. Cheers for the tip 👍 I like the sound of skids!

[@cresshead]

Q. do you have a vid on how you mount the camera?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Check the description, I have a link in there :-)

[@MathieuTechMoto]

is it me or 2.7k dynamic range seems better ?

[@TaylorPhase]

using a 4k monitor here. the 4k footy looks waaaaay nicer than the 2.7k

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Thanks - good to hear 👍

[@castanachestnut5228]

Why dont you shoot 60fps tho,sorry if its a stupid question

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Not a stupid question. I don’t like the aesthetic of 60fps video. 👍

[@castanachestnut5228]

Hm,but may i ask whats different,i thought that at 60fps its smoother,so its better

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Not always. Movies are never displayed at 60fps (24fps). TV is 25p in Euro and 30p in USA / Rest of world. 60p is smooth but I just dont like it. Like I mentioned its all personal preference. I'd use 60fps (50fps) to slow down to 25p if needed.

[@MegaPustekuchen]

bitrate is 60 @ 4K 30p and 78 @ 4K 60p?

[@temsen9551]

hello why is the setting of sharpness on low ?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I prefer the less sharp look.

[@markblumow7524]

I was looking for that question, thanks for that. I maybe like more the sharp one. But thanks so much for you great video. You have a new follower now.

[@GregSummersMusic]

In regards to sharpness, Generally it’s best to not let any camera do the thinking for you and that goes for sharpness. You can always add that in post if you want. ;-)

[@shadowasmr7759]

Fucking LOVE your ethusiasm!

[@joaquinguzman779]

Whats the best place to place the chesty to get a good of bars and trail

[@matteoxd17]

Hi. What's the best setting to encrease the sense of speed?

[@happy_keats]

24fps + 1/24 shutter + any gimbal

[@RobRidesEMTB]

👆

[@JsGarage]

Why 4:3? Doesn't it do 16:9 2.7K?

[@luisalberto5819]

I'm just bought that camera, so... what's The Best setting to mtb with a ride fully of rocks

[@bignick4054]

Why is the quality so poor? It is 1080HD+, but looks like 480p...

[@RobRidesEMTB]

View on 4K Chrome and let me know!

[@XCBen]

Usually when you first upload the quality is always poor since the lower quality videos process first. I always make my videos private until they are at 4k.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

XC BenJammin this vid has been uploaded for 3 days. Quality YT in 4K looks ok to me 👍

[@XCBen]

@@RobRidesEMTB my bad. I thought it was a few hours ago. Thought I read that. So nevermind

[@XCBen]

Oh, you did have it private and then public 3 hours ago. Hahhaa. Just noticed that.

[@CamCakes]

chest mount and gimballess?? I want to avoid a gimbal due to cost and fragility

[@RobRidesEMTB]

This is helmet mounted (chin mount). No gimbal.

[@CamCakes]

@@RobRidesEMTB Thanks for the quick reply! Have you done a run with chest mount??

[@CamCakes]

@@RobRidesEMTB also sorry, did you use an external mic??

[@RobRidesEMTB]

CamCakes just the GoPro mic. No haven’t done a run, just mtb footage 👍

[@CamCakes]

@@RobRidesEMTB Thats some awesome quailty from the mic then! Thanks heaps for all the handy info, subbed for sure :)

[@AtobaLongkumer]

Is this in hyper smooth?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Atoba Longkumer yes 👍

[@AtobaLongkumer]

@@RobRidesEMTB totally enjoyed it

[@AtobaLongkumer]

@@RobRidesEMTB how about the exposure? Is it in auto?

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Yes :-) check out my most recent GoPro settings video for all the details

[@AtobaLongkumer]

@@RobRidesEMTB alright 🤘🤘 thanks again

[@andrejbjorn]

2.7 for me, less compression

[@yasirbozabal8358]

4k 30fps hypersmooth wide is it good

[@ncbassmix]

For action sports you should also be testing fps. I was a little disappointed you didn't even test 4k 60fps or 2.7k 120fps.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

I don’t ever shoot at 60p as I rarely slow down any MTB footage.

[@riccardosavio6452]

@@RobRidesEMTB What are the disadvantages of having higher fps? It'd be cooler to shoot a video with 60 fps as it looks more flowing even tho you don't ever slow down your video

[@norcaltrailrides5550]

4K at 60fps does not support hypersmooth tech.

[@Southernrefinish88]

Why does it still look grainy on my phone even my laptop it looks grainy?

[@paulsmale5436]

Everything looks better in 4k, 24fps is where its at from the pros advice. I found VSDC editor that Gopro recommends was the only one that didn't crash for me. Facebook hates 4k, I find everything to do with 4k a total b*ch. 2.7k may not be as tasty but its low spec pc and facebook friendly.

[@SenderoSeeker]

That was really helpful. I'd love to see a video from you on your FCP export settings.

[@RobRidesEMTB]

Cool thanks. I do plan to do that video.

[@SenderoSeeker]

@@RobRidesEMTB fantastic. I look forward to it.

[@isuckatriding1200]

i tried it on my gopro and it looks better, but still not like yours ):

[@allenkvextreme]

W-H-A-T - - - A - - - Q-U-A-L-I-T-Y

[@UCWCDXji3hdkUQsORuS]

Use the card for video links 😜

[@smartmouth1577]

Overall, 2.7K looks better to me.

[@RichMantaray]

2k @ 60fps max iso 3200 min 100 ,,,,,, honestly going this speed u want 1080p @ 120fps

[@funKdatFPV]

I realize this comment is six months old, but would you recommend the 1080p @ 120fps for flying fast FPV drones(80mph etc)