What do you guys think? GoPro Creator Edition or David Manning Creator Edition?!
@Lauders752 жыл бұрын
The other option, certainly gives more options.
@michaeljewett11422 жыл бұрын
The David Manning kit is more versatile in some respect, however it’s missing a remote, which (I’m assuming) comes quite handy on the Volta. But what if there were yet another option? Is there a decent GoPro-compatible gimbal that could be an alternative to the Volta? A gimbal would let you add an nd filter without compromising the image when using low shutter speeds, for example. It might also have a rotating option for motion time lapses. Just thinking out loud here lol.
@BrandonTalbot2 жыл бұрын
DM me. It's a double entendre
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
@@Lauders75 Accurate👍
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
@pez-ANT For sure a cleaner setup! If you're frequently using a battery pack to run your GoPro, the Volta is a nice easy setup. But you're getting 4,900mAh compared to if you're using a 10,000mAh battery pack. Whatever works best for your setup👍
@losiek0082 жыл бұрын
actually, the one and only problem with "your" kit is, that if I wanna switch batteries, i need to take the whole setup apart in order to get to the battery doors. Huge advantage of the creator kit is, that I can just plug the cable and charge whole setup together.
@NaterFernat Жыл бұрын
Buy a battery pack and you're good to go
@robertosullivan14602 жыл бұрын
So, I did a video this weekend using the Volta and the 2.0 selfie-stick. One important thing I noted: when using the tripod function of the selfie-stick, the camera was top-heavy and was shaking in the wind (ultimately unusable video). I think they both (Volta & selfie stick) have their advantages/drawbacks, but walking down the street vlogging/quick capture, the Volta wins. I actually capture more video because I’m not as worried about battery life or someone noting that I’m turning on the camera
@JudoSurfer2 жыл бұрын
To be similar to GoPro creator kit, you also need to add The Remote, a way to screw the 3-Way 2.0 into a selfie stick with standard thread, AND a way to mount your tripod/selfie stick to any GoPro mount (why don't you mention the pop out mounting fingers? They are really handy!). Also, for the vlogger wondering how to set mic so they can turn the camera forward and backwards, you just set it to camera mic. Yes not the exact same, but like you said, the camera mics are pretty good. Plus, if they add a directional mic like Rode, they're in the same dilemma.
@LouisLuzuka2 жыл бұрын
I love the go pro content thank you for sharing this with us
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Louis! Thanks for watching👍
@847lifestyle2 жыл бұрын
thinking of getting this setup for cycling vlogs
@jr-qu9pl2 жыл бұрын
I love the volta! I would turn the camera on and off through the Volta at first it caught me off guard because it wasn't connected but once I started playing with the volta it turns out you can use the volta wirelessly as a complete remote with turning on/off the go pro and changing modes quickly!
@MTBjared2 жыл бұрын
love your videos man, keep it up
@JudoSurfer2 жыл бұрын
Beware of scammer pretending to be David
@gingernaut2550 Жыл бұрын
I would spent the whopping 17 bucks and get the gopro set up for the simple fact, the volta is more convenient than swapping in 3 batteries. The price diff would have to be more substantial for me to consider having to take the camera out of a media mod everytime a battery needs a swap. plus, the volta can charge other things like my phone, spare batteries cannot
@JustinPulitzerTrades2 жыл бұрын
Would be good to see you try the light in a dark setting.
@lestat9642 жыл бұрын
I took it to Disney twice last week and i enjoyed it. Used the polorpro clip to attach to my backpack. I like not having to remove the media mod to replace the battery. Still a massive pain when the GO Pro freezes and I have to remove the battery to reset though lol. I dont know why GoPro didnt put feet clamps on the bottom of the media mod itself.
@JonS2 жыл бұрын
Try holding the shutter and mode button for 8 seconds to do a reset.
@lestat9642 жыл бұрын
@@JonS cool man, ill give that a shot next time. Thanks
@ChrisGoforthChannel2 жыл бұрын
@@JonS thanks for the tip!
@TheDamExperience Жыл бұрын
I only bought the creator addition because the extra battery sounded nice with out having to have more batteries... But your set up looks sweet too as a Pro creator I would think one would have many set ups though in there bag just to be able to have the Manningkit and the GoPro creator kit and the MalinaKit just being able to have different set ups to get different shots! you brought many ideas to my attention like if I'm sitting at a restaurant just take the battery out and let it film so it wont over heat and or when I'm walking around a new town just to be able to have more battery to put in the GoPro battery back in to film plus the wind and all would help that as well. Keep it up Love the videos!
@geogm77 Жыл бұрын
Cool review and very informative.
@SAMalsi-yd1uy2 жыл бұрын
I love your reviews! But I can't find your link to your 3 gopro batteries! 😬
@xkorbekx8 ай бұрын
Can I use wireless mic tx as a shotgun with the rx also mounted on GoPro or will that cause feedback?
@PepsyTV2 жыл бұрын
i don't understand why.... i have a quite brand new gopro hero 10 black and i have issues connecting to the quick app to acces the footage on it... my phone doesn't see the wifi of the gopro... if anyone has any idea whould be awesome. PS: Awesome video!
@TheGSummit2 жыл бұрын
Volta all the way, the convenience of not thinking about changing batteries all day wins hands down 🙌
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Even though it can't extend?!
@TheGSummit2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog Yes even though. Took it with me on a 11 day Maui trip (actually had it delivered their) and I have NEVER used my GoPro as much as I did with the Volta. Wife even said finally am recording more than 30 sec. at a time 😂
@JimyOfficial Жыл бұрын
@@TheGSummityou have media mod?
@TheGSummit Жыл бұрын
@@JimyOfficial yes main reason for the wind noise help
@rayant12 жыл бұрын
Great insight. I like the idea about the microphone and was wondering what Rode version is the microphone you are suggesting? Thank you.
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
That's the Rode VideoMicro👍
@kiera_perrin6 ай бұрын
Interesting but does it work with the Dji action cams David? That would be cool.
@GLITTERY_RAGE1262 жыл бұрын
thanks for the information.
@thescubabug12 жыл бұрын
The problem with "your" kit, is the battery swap... If on the fly, it is very inconvenient to basically undress the camera system every time you run low on power. I wish the "creator" kit would have an arm extension for better wide shots. But that being said... a tripod swap out is STILL far easier than swapping out the battery.... BTW, AWESOME "overheating" tip. That solves a big problem for extended time-lapse shots. Nice.
@pepsviper2 жыл бұрын
can you connect the 2 way of 3 way bracket to volta and use type-c extension for the connection? so that you have volta+2 way combine?
@thebikeracer2 жыл бұрын
I use your last solution with a round external battery. Works great.
@arowe231 Жыл бұрын
Wow! So many great ideas. I'm going...idk...both lol. Each one has its own pro and cons. The Volta does not bend like the 3Way 2.0. and it's nice having the batteries right there. I did like the setup you did with the external battery!! I might do that! And stay no beard or just a few days scruff. Btw great video!
@flightriot34542 жыл бұрын
I would prefer the GoPro David Manning kit. Great video.
@kelalamusic92582 жыл бұрын
Both the GoPro kit, and your kit are fine. For me, just give me the camera and the Volta. For one thing, I don’t have to keep changing out the batteries, which is ideal while at the beach or doing a lengthy time lapse. Don’t really need an extra mic. Either way is great depending on one’s needs. Love your videos, Dave. Keep ‘em coming. 😊
@Dan_B_Rides2 жыл бұрын
I think I would go with your set up but I do have a question for you. How much better is the rode microphone than the media mod’s microphone? Have you or can you do a comparison video? Love the beard look by the way 👍🏻
@pyrotechnic12522 жыл бұрын
I use a rode microphone for about 5 month's and i love it. With the mic you geat a dead cat. Thic microphone is raally good choice for the price that it cost
@Dan_B_Rides2 жыл бұрын
@@pyrotechnic1252 thank you for the advice 👍🏻
@CocuxtleManguito2 жыл бұрын
Nice video and very helpful. Question: If I plug the MediaMod and a Rode Micrphone, Will I have to choose whithin the media mod mic or the rode? Or will the rode be functioning automatically?
@btwstudying1072 жыл бұрын
L love your kit
@-TheMillenniumFalcon2 жыл бұрын
Can the rode mic and Volta work together or is it one or the other?
@leeonardoaugusto2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for clarifying the horizon leveling topic.
@xaint7 Жыл бұрын
How much weight for the gopro + volta + media mod + light mod? ... i cant find any precise info on the internet. My point is if the setup weighs over a7c body, i dont think its a great idea to carry it around.
@thecapturingcouple2 жыл бұрын
Love the video! If I had a dollar for every time you said the word “GoPro” in this video.. I’d be able to buy a ton of GoPros 😂
@mgmeo2 жыл бұрын
I had an issue with GoPro where I was a subscriber for a year+ and when I bought the Hero10 Black in a kit, they only sent me the camera…when I called and said basically what you did about subscriber benefits, I was more or less wink wink, told to create a new subscription and email every year. GoPro can use that new subscriber number and show it to their shareholders, that’s what they care about. Their product these days is the stock, not the cameras.
@BradfordThroughTheLens2 жыл бұрын
I like your set up. But just concerned about one directional mic? Does third party mic solve the issue?
@OneEyeBlindMedia2 жыл бұрын
I am MOST definitely a RODE mic guy but in the case of needing a mic for flipping back and forth filming. I suggest the Diety D4 Duo, it will solve the problem. BTW: I have spoken with RODE about creating a mic for this purpose!
@BrandonTalbot2 жыл бұрын
The D4 is rad.
@JusDirtfishin2 жыл бұрын
I have the GoPro hero 9. I ended up buying an after market light and use the media mod. I just recently added the Røde wireless go ll. But I Metal detect in the woods a lot where it has some dark spots so the light helps a lot.
@jessicatvlog99112 жыл бұрын
do you have Hohem iSteady Pro 4, it is a gimbal for Gopro too.. I think that is great
@Lonebowhunter2 жыл бұрын
I'd go with your kit versus the volta
@jonyaragon19912 жыл бұрын
Hey David. I was wondering if you could give me some recommendations. I have both GP8 and the 360 GP. I have a lawn care business and I’d like to record while on my mower. Some 360 video above my head. What are some accessories I could use so I can get some nice footage while also being hands free since I need my hands to control my mower? Thanks for your awesome reviews and videos.
@SquiggySquog2 жыл бұрын
Been looking into a setup to film my travels for memories and maybe dabble with some YT videos. I almost bought the creator kit outright but thought I’d check for some reviews etc. I think I like your setup way better, thanks for sharing.
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Owen! Stoked this was helpful for you👍
@mr.mctiktok2 жыл бұрын
I still call the Safari Park the Wild Animal park too 😂
@elizabeth32802 жыл бұрын
all them batteries instead of a battery bank though? Hopefully your battery chamber is easy to get to.
@LouisLuzuka2 жыл бұрын
This would be a dream come true 💯 but I love my hero 7 going strong 💪
@1994Indyxlt2 жыл бұрын
Hey David are you going to take a look at the hero 10 bones?
@TheHEROFamily Жыл бұрын
Honestly, the GoPro creators edition is ideal. The entire point is minimalism. Having to carry 3 extra batteries and take the entire rig apart just to switch out batteries is not ideal. Plus, I rather have the light and not need it then need it and not have it.
@simonwright86632 жыл бұрын
Good inf - thanks ! Just got my first go pro and will start filming soon . Dont worry Abort facial hair😂!
@judeemclaughlin73942 жыл бұрын
I'm still waiting for GoPro (or third party) to combine the volta with the three way. As for the beard - do what Morgan says.
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Yes to both🤣👍
@mulch19732 жыл бұрын
Hi David I do like your set up but as a new user I then have 3 batteries and I could only charge up one at a time. Where with their set up like you say one usb charges it all up.
@AlbertoFigueroaArquitectura2 жыл бұрын
I would do the 3 option. Volta, no mod and add the for adapter to plug and keep closed the GoPro
@onlyagreeingsometimes2 жыл бұрын
Question: what small size camera like the gopro is really good in ow light 🤔
@GrommieWolf2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I learned a lot. I'm a new subscriber!
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Awesome Elaine! So stoked to have you here. Let me know anything I can help with!
@tmlocalone2 жыл бұрын
Thank You
@LucWijdeveld Жыл бұрын
Since I use the Telesin batteries, the Hero9 gets less hot and can also use it longer, for the same price as the original GoPro battery.
@JohnvanGurp2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t bought the Hero 10 (yet) but I really like the Volta!
@longboardluv22 жыл бұрын
we have to film at night a lot of times just because of the nature of our content. I just carry one of those harbor fright stick lights with me because you need A LOT OF LIGHT to film with a go pro and that little go pro one isn't going to cut it
@fabiodamatajj2 жыл бұрын
Great video ! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@fabmartel2 жыл бұрын
mmhh interresting, but i dont see where the hdmi output ?
@sifuentes41132 жыл бұрын
drop a link for that hoodie
@RohithKumarVlogs2 жыл бұрын
Can I vlog with GoPro
@Randomperson04672 жыл бұрын
No it will overheat
@RohithKumarVlogs2 жыл бұрын
@@Randomperson0467 Thank you
@Randomperson04672 жыл бұрын
@@RohithKumarVlogs you’re welcom
@ChrisNewham2 жыл бұрын
Yes no problem, perhaps I dont do long clips or becasue Im in the uk and its cold but I have never had the Hero10 over heat and I shoot 5.3k/25 most of the time.
@mrplaomeow7682 жыл бұрын
Yeah I was at wonder con and had the Go Pro 10 clipped to my backpack and it filmed until the batteries died with no overheating. I also have the ulanzi 10000pmh battery grip and it was fine on that as well when using 4k or 5.3k and 30fps or less.
@RISEN_MISFIT_ASMR2 жыл бұрын
The mediamod on Amazon is 80!!?
@MorganLeighMusicNow2 жыл бұрын
I vote for more vlogging with the kids!
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Now that's a solid idea!
@pavithraparasuram2 жыл бұрын
Hi, i have a question So does the volta charge the battery and the GoPro is powered or does the volta just simultaneously power the battery? Eg: incase i am using volta for a half-day and if i am planning to get into the water with just the GoPro, will the battery be full when i remove volta?
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Yep, the Volta battery is being used first and then it pulls from the internal. So when you pull your GoPro off, it will be almost completely full👍
@DanDaiMedia2 жыл бұрын
Are you suggesting to buy the GoPro 10, media mod, light, and volta separately? Cant seem to find the volta sold separately online…
@Rust_Belt_Fab2 жыл бұрын
BEARD LIFE!!
@andyblanco54942 жыл бұрын
The big issue changing batteries with media mod is BS, you have to take out the camera, GREAT VIDEO...
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just the easiest problem ever for GoPro to solve?
@andyblanco54942 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog Thank you For replay, what i meant to say was when "gopro froze", but i just discovered by pressing the record and power button for 10 seconds solved the issues, media mod is great, THX again
@MartinMetregerTipsandTricks2 жыл бұрын
I like both but the price is killing me. I want to make "How to Videos" so a small camera is good for getting in tight spaces. But now with everything I need to buy for a GoPro setup, I can get a Camera that has a jack for the Rhode for a Mic and many other possibilities for a few more dollars. I know it's not water proof but I can wait for a sunny day. Any suggestions for non GoPro Camera that does Video half way decent?
@TimKingsandiego2 жыл бұрын
Very nice
@mikelafferty52532 жыл бұрын
Do you have a review of the new Hero 10 Lite coming?
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
I didn't get the Hero 10 Bones because I'm not super advanced at FPV drones. The Bones doesn't even have a normal plug to go into a battery system, it needs to be soldered into place. I don't really know all of that stuff, so it's a no go for me!
@BorderRambler2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison , don’t think I will be getting the new creator mount as I normally attach a powerbank for Timelapse etc …. I just wish GoPro would gives us the option for the mic to work work back and front at the same time on the media mod
@marcialp932 жыл бұрын
So I already own the 10 and 9.. looks like I'll probably just be getting the Volta by itself for our upcoming Disneyland and universal trip.. hell I might even just get two of them one for each camera.. this way when I hand off one of the cameras to one of my kids I don't have to worry about battery drainage and then having to swap them out they can just run on the Volta.
@demang04052 жыл бұрын
Mix both. Put the rode on the GoPro setup.
@abhijeetkurup2 жыл бұрын
HI DAVE 🙋
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
HI ABHIJEET!!!👊
@Evilblackmonkey2 жыл бұрын
I'd buy David Manning
@sakriso2 жыл бұрын
Hi! I think GoPro should include a remote as part of a kit (shorty, handler, remote, spare battery, charger, etc.). Otherwise, I like your 3-in-1 idea.
@sakriso2 жыл бұрын
Never heard of this platform...did I indeed get chosen??
@poloitaly792 жыл бұрын
Hey David… GoPro Creator Edition at all!!!! 😜 No batteries everywhere and… 3ways stick never convinced me! On one thing I agree with you: lamp sucks! 🤦🏻♂️ Bye man
@teamsaunz2 жыл бұрын
Did the beard thing a couple years ago. Kind of a lot of up keep to it. Now I just let it grow for a week and shave it off. So, much easier.
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how much longer I can go anyway. I'm in the itchy phase right now!
@teamsaunz2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog Yes, it doesn’t get much easier, well didn’t for me.
@carsonproductions12202 жыл бұрын
great video david!
@AntiMagicDragon2 жыл бұрын
I have all the parts for David Manning Creator Edition. What wind muffler on the Rode VideoMicro what do you use so it does not go into the GoPro shot?
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
There's a smaller foam windscreen for that mic available. I'll look for the link and add it in here if I find it👍
@XBADBOYSHOW2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog hello sir may i ask "text me on telegram" is that really you sir ? thanks sir
@LouisLuzuka2 жыл бұрын
I want the David manning creator edition kit. Petition to make it happen 💯
@citizenbfk2 жыл бұрын
Quite informative...and a great underlying sense of humor. Keep on keeping on!
@sabirshaikh51732 жыл бұрын
Is it Available In India @GoPro10 Creater Edition
@alky12292 жыл бұрын
Too correct the leveling problem just get a small ball head mount and put it on the Volta and mount the GoPro. Most of us probably have one.
@AirbornePirates2 жыл бұрын
Volta all the way, especially for camping Vlogs
@DjGibsonRacing2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a solution for the issue with the media mod, where you have to take off the mount to change the battery? I wish someone wiuld have a mount for the cold shoe to attach to a tripod. Like a l bracket. Having to in mount the gopro from the tripod then having to remove it from the media mod is so annoying!
@DjGibsonRacing2 жыл бұрын
@Text me on telegram@DavidManning is this a scam?
@jamaliciousben2 жыл бұрын
Anyone know of any non-Volta grips that have the same secondary gopro “feet” that pop out of the side of the Volta? I would love to be able to stick a Snap mount onto that secondary mount so i can have a handle on my gopro but also be able to chest mount my gopro.
@DisneyMarkUK2 жыл бұрын
Great video David. Does the Media mod do anything other than have a mic? If you’re buying a Rode mic is there any point in buying the media mod apart from it giving you the cold shoe? Cheers David
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, unfortunately the GoPro still needs an audio adapter. We used to have the dongle so we could plug a 3.5mm mic cable into the GoPro, but now the best option is the MediaMod. So the MediaMod acts as the adapter and cold shoe 👍
@DisneyMarkUK2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog Aaahhhh Cheers David, I forgot about the connectivity issue.
@420scene2 жыл бұрын
Your creator kit sounds better. I’ve been using GoPro cameras for a while and they are trash in low light conditions and like you said, I don’t think that light kit is going to make much of a difference because it’s still going to look grainy in the dark. I have a GoPro 9 but I also have my Canon DSLR but I do a lot of shots with my guitar so the GoPro would be a better choice to move it more freely.
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
Yeah man, action cameras are for sure not for low light situations! For low light, sensor size plays a massive role in capturing the little light that’s there. Action cameras just have too small of sensors to be able to really perform well. To be fair though, the action cams that are out right now are doing the best job of it ever. So at least they’re the best we’ve had🤷♂️
@Chalizdekino12 жыл бұрын
😢😢😢😢 I just bought one after watching this video. But the one with a short handle. I hope I have made a good purchase. I really want to do vlogging, walking and showing streets and stuff and food cooking and eating. Please reply if this is a good buy or not.
@johntupper13692 жыл бұрын
Even better(I think): HERO10 Black + Accessories Bundle (love the magnetic swivel clip), 3-way 2.0, 2 enduro batteries, and deity d4 duo or rode videomic go II depending on direction of audio you wish to capture. ~560 or 600 plus tax. pretty crazy
@allesindwillkommen2 жыл бұрын
Dude, we're not talking about the nighttime, but about a good lighting in the daytime indoors and outdoors. In my country it's very often quite dark because it's cloudy most of the time, so you have to even switch on the lights during the day. Does this "creator" mod help with that?
@abundantharmony2 жыл бұрын
What settings do you use to make this thing not overheat with that media mod?
@abundantharmony2 жыл бұрын
@Text me on telegram@DavidManning Live yourself.
@keithlambert62172 жыл бұрын
Personally find battery swaps using the MM (removing it from the handle and remove the frame to swap a single battery) to be a real pain. Not everything is about price.
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
What an easy fix it would be for GoPro to solve that problem!
@JudoSurfer2 жыл бұрын
Which is why using the Volta is so awesome with Media Mod. No need to swap out batteries 😁
@JudoSurfer2 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog What's the easy fix? Adding another door again like on HERO5-7?
@BenCG2 жыл бұрын
I had the David Manning Creator Kit for 5 years already, but I have to ask - is Rode Video Micro still the best choice out there? First of all, it's a directional mic, and that's not useful as a vlogger when you're turning the camera around from your face to what you're seeing. I could barely be heard when pointing the mic forwards. I know Rode has the Wireless Go which is nifty but has a lot of small parts that could get easily lost. What recommendations are there for a small bi-directional or omni mic that's as good as the Rode Video Micro, that will just plug right into the side of the GoPro 10? It's baffling that GoPro hasn't made something so simple. The one on the Media Mod seems to be very average.
@BlackGoddess1432 жыл бұрын
Were you able to find any solutions?
@Rhetri2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if horizon leveling works if you shoot with the go pro vertically. The reason is to shoot specific for Instagram reels or Tiktok. Thanks in advance
@paulysci9252 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the remote that would be a worthy addition to the Dave manning kit 😉
@Lauders752 жыл бұрын
Only one glaring problem, volta remote function doesn’t work media mod is connected. For me anyway, when media mod & gp10 are paired the GoPro goes into power cycle mode.
@DavidManningvlog2 жыл бұрын
You can't get the GoPro to pair to the Volta via bluetooth?
@lestat9642 жыл бұрын
Something is wrong here my man. It 100% works with the media mod. In fact thats the ONLY way I have used it. Must be a set up issue OR a defective Volta?
@Lauders752 жыл бұрын
@@lestat964 works fine with my hero9 in the media mod.
@Lauders752 жыл бұрын
@@DavidManningvlog without the media mod the gp10 works fine connected to Volta. But using media mod the GoPro shows a green screen then just keeps rebooting when connected to Bluetooth.
@Lauders752 жыл бұрын
@@lestat964 all sorted now , did a manual update, now fine.
@MrPhilbautista2 жыл бұрын
Both are less than ideal. The best would be to get a tripod/selfie stick that's not made by Go Pro, since you could find something similar but cheaper out there. Yes, even with integrated power banks. You could probably even build one with a 3 axis gimbal for not much more.
@PeterHerget2 жыл бұрын
Great review David! I am waiting to see if Costco does another deal with the GoPro Hero10 Black...