Gore Vidal & Roy Cohn: Classic Interview

[@carycheifetz8809]

Roy Cohn was my ethics professor in law school and later i had an ugly case against him and he was discharged by his client fairly quickly. Watching this now gives me insight into DJT.

[@splinterbyrd]

@@carycheifetz8809 DJT?

[@SandfordSmythe]

Ethics Professor? Are you joking?

[@MLM68]

Wow, you completely forgot the part when he died in the hospital of aids denying he was a homosexual. The man was a power bottom dude who is into muscular men.

[@patsanders481]

@@SandfordSmythe 😊

[@chrisnash430]

More like FJB

[@Tuscarora-Twigg]

Now I see why DonOLD Trump keeps Stephen Miller around, he's the reincarnation of Roy Cohn.

[@allancrow134]

Stephen Miller is more like Goebbels than Cohn. He writes complete fiction and stridently repeats it knowing that many will believe it. Not everyone, but more than enough to achieve the desired effect. Miller is a ghoul.

[@danskhansen]

Same weird thing with their eyes. Makes you wonder what they're on ...

[@dane21dc]

Both also use hair in a can

[@ruthdevisser2526]

Both alien looking

[@davidowens5898]

!!!! That's a bulls eye! He's a dead ringer for Cohn and every bit as evil as Cohn. Good call!

[@crowncliff]

This generation of people seemed so effortlessly articulate, listening even to folks with whom I disagree is like an intellectual/linguistic balm to the mind/ears.

[@stevencoardvenice]

Buckley is smooth too

[@tenofivelips]

​@stevencoardvenice I was born in '68. I spent my youth listening to the adults at my grandparent"s Sunday dinner table talk about the Buckley/Vidal debates.

[@petermcmillan3446]

I belong to that generation. Watching discussions like these gives me the same sort of charge that youngsters get from watching a cage fight. The swimmingly gorgeous Gore Vidal and that dreadful Cohn fella may be calm and controlled, but they're cutting chunks off each other.

[@roughhabit9085]

That’s what socialism does, not only does it produce poor quality products but it whittles away at the ethos.

[@SandraHunter-c6u]

I downloaded it to my phone.

[@cheri238]

Bravo, Gore Vidal ! A man of extraordinary intelligence. He was a great novelist, essayist, world historian, and he did not lie. You are truly missed. If there is a devil, Sammy Cohn knew him well. Thank you, Bill Boggs, this is a jewel video. Gore Vidal always shined with enormous capacity of words with knives.

[@pearlsammo1638]

He’s receiving daily flaming pineapple enemas in hell … and likely enjoying it.

[@donofon1014]

I can despise McCarthy and Cohn .. without having to ignore Vidal calling McArthur pompous with no sense of irony. Vidal show willingness to smear "closeted gays" from his out and proud posture.

[@gordonwilson1631]

Calling Ronald Reagan an “acting President” is as clever and accurate as political comment gets.

[@TommyChardonneret]

@@donofon1014 As to Gore Vidal "smearing" closeted gay men, he only did it when those self-dealing self-loathing gay men (of whom Attorney Cohn was a textbook example) acted in concert with vicious and powerful homophobes to further promote civl rights deprivation, and often life deprivation, of gay men through governmentally enforced political POGROMS against not only Cohn's fellow gay men, but also against Cohn's fellow Jews in America! That is far, very far, from "smearing" and is simply letting the facts speak for themselves! And as for General Pellucidly Pompous MacArthur, who openly promoted using nuclear weapons against North Korea IN OPEN DEFIANCE OF THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF at the time (his "boss" under the US Constitution), Gore Vidal's personal pomposity profusely pales in comparison!

[@jayd.salter6219]

@@gordonwilson1631He also called Reagan, “A triumph of the embalmer’s art.”

[@chuck1prillaman]

Cohn looks necrotic in every photo.

[@MarvinMonroe]

Well in later photos he has AIDS

[@deborahsevigny4763]

Because he was sick and died not too long after this.

[@Private23986]

He had AIDS.

[@4thbox]

@@deborahsevigny4763 Ridiculous! He contracted AIDs in the mid 1980s He died NINE years later! This was taped in 1977 - the year the "Tailgunner Joe" originally aired on NBC.

[@LOVEisBLUE-k9j]

​@@deborahsevigny4763This interview was 1977. Cohn died in 1986.

[@sharonh2991]

Roy Cohen “….when you’ve done a hatchet job THE LIKES OF WHICH….” I can’t believe we’re seeing Roy Cohen’s DNA spilling out of trumps mouth some 50 years later.

[@Mike-nt9sx]

well they were friends..or whatever

[@alwaysv]

Cohn's DNA is probably coming out of Trump's mouth for a reason...🤤

[@apchsiri1156]

Often one can glean Trump using Cohn's strategy of "attack, attack, attack; deny, deny, deny".

[@apchsiri1156]

​@@Mike-nt9sxCohn introduced Trump to the Resorts International narcotics trafficking and money laundering crowd: Meyer Lansky, Baron Edmond de Rothschild and Hank Crosby.

[@cg5648]

Thank God Hillary has ethics 😂😂😂

[@JoeL-zb1yd]

Watch Gore Vidal and William F. Buckley go at it at the 1968 Democratic Convention. Gore Vidal was terrific!

[@robertthweatt1900]

I saw that back in the day. IIRC, Buckley to Vidal, "If you call me a Nazi again, you goddamned queer, I'll punch you right in the kisser, so help me!" The moderator was undone by that one, completely panicked. About the only comic relief we got that year.

[@AlbertPaysonTerhune]

Too bad it led to a big lawsuit and loss, not only for Vidal but for Esquire.

[@grntchstrmdws]

James Baldwin vs. William Buckley debate of 1965 is the one every high school student should see before graduation. kzbin.info/www/bejne/a4XInGyeaMZorbMsi=WmtONUajgYHjD3Jv

[@JaneESeymour]

It's scintillating .

[@JoeL-zb1yd]

@@robertthweatt1900 Gore Vidal said "We have every right to take whatever position we want to take because we're guaranteed freedom of speech under the Constitution. We've just had to listen to a grotesque example of it." That was classic!

[@scoundrel99]

Roy Cohn’s 3 rules as you watch this: 1) Attack attack attack 2) Admit nothing, deny everything 3) Always claim victory.

[@blackawana]

Trump's teacher.

[@nicolasdelaforge7420]

@@blackawana did you watch "The Apprentice" movie? Also "The trump Tapes" by Woodward and his latest "War".

[@chrisnash430]

@@blackawana More like Clintons, but keep trying kid!

[@chrisnash430]

@@nicolasdelaforge7420 That spook woodward has always been an establishment war pig shill. Try again!

[@sunriseschubert4391]

But Cohn was right about communism.

[@garyonderisin8338]

r.i.p. gore vidal. truly one of america's great modern writers. he may be gone, but he is not forgotten.

[@KunieStenzel]

???

[@meh8982]

Sadly, I think he is largely forgotten. Really a shame.

[@bradleyboyer9979]

He literally defended Communism in this clip.

[@denniswinters3096]

Roy Cohn had the deadest eyes I've ever seen.

[@wlhansen2068]

I was thinking the same watching this. They reflect that empty,evil soul he had. He must have gone straight to hell when he died

[@cindymaceda2999]

@@wlhansen2068😂 LOL. This brings to mind what Gore Vidal said in a Live interview, when the interviewer, expecting a reaction, mentioned that William F. Buckley had just passed away. Vidal said, matter-of-factly, “Well he’s not going to like Hell.”😊

[@marcelladillard3556]

That's because he was possessed.

[@Valelacerte]

Maybe, but Roy Cohn was right. McCarthy was posthumously vindicated, by defecting KGB officers and recovered Soviet archives, in his claims that key positions in US government, institutions and industries had and were being infiltrated by communist agents. Even the FBI were trying to warn the President that his secretary was a communist agent. Gore Vidal's lazy, pompous, and absolute dismissal of this is what tells you that he, and not Cohn, is the liar and propagandist. Communists always have to destroy their enemies totally. It is not enough to debunk their arguments; they must destroy them reputationally, financially, and spiritually. The smear campaign against McCarthy and Cohn was total and merciless; neither could be seen as having even one redeeming quality. I'm afraid that much of recorded 20th century history is highly revised and serves an agenda other than the sincere pursuit of truth.

[@BenSussmanpro]

But worse than him is Trump. Cohn was bad but he was an intellectual and social genius - he had people wrapped around his thumb for years in NY. Trump is just evil-stupid who abandoned Cohn (who took him under his wing) when he disclosed his AIDS. They’re both evil, but if I had to choose, I’d prefer Cohn.

[@rlbrown1009]

I admired Gore Vidal's courage in speaking openly about what he knew & who he was.

[@DBEdwards]

Indeed. Gore was a patient man and fair one.

[@DBEdwards]

Damn right and so do I to this day

[@arriuscalpurniuspiso]

Gore was a man. Roy was a fake weasel

[@oilyshoes9969]

His favorite topic was himself

[@stevencoardvenice]

Yes I respect him for wearing his queerness on his sleeve. Didn't GAF. Unlike these fascist closet cases creeps skulking around the halls of power. Like toy and Edgar

[@Adam-Epler]

One of the greatest interviews of all time. Media this transparent, with this sort of ensemble is a thing of the past. Gore and Cohn were the perfect match, as both were highly respected among their sides. They did not know that the other would be present that day. Cohn orchestrated the steam engine of the GOP, and Gore was a blood member of the Democrats and Washington, of which he spoke very transparently about. Gore is attempting to "give the game away," and Cohn dodges most of the time. Both were great speakers and debaters, but of course no one was more elucidating and wittier than Vidal. Vidal was not allowed on any primetime broadcasts, because the networks were scared of what he might spill. Nothing like this would happen today. Excellent interview, Bill!

[@annemosbergen3951]

Not sure if Gore Vidal would be allowed on 2024's Airwaves. Main Stream Media are tip-toeing today, in hopes the First Amendment & profits protect them. MSM won't bring on bright focused minds like Gore Vidal - because he incisively speaks truth to power. Something MSM avoids. MSM have muzzled speech from psychiatrists and psychologists, etc. who have observed Donald's deteriorating behavior, speech and glee at denigrating others. The mental health experts have the duty to warn that Donald is unfit to be President, especially the Office gives him the power to press the nuclear button. Donald wanted to nuke North Korea for disrespecting him. He set the orders to begin - but was distracted the next day by another issue. He thought of nuking a hurricane approaching Florida - both said on TV. So the mental health experts are on UTube, podcasts, etc. - to fulfill their Duty to Warn.

[@dinkster1729]

Who would watch it? Besides, you would have to be so politically correct today.

[@annemosbergen3951]

@dinkster1729 People of that time & those who are alive today & grew up at that time would. 2024 is in new age of speaking. Words are short, expletives numerous, and new words coined by this generation. During their debate, John & Vidal would use pointed innuendos. The audience understood and laughed.

[@granthurlburt4062]

I doubt anyone respected Cohn. Feared him maybe. What "side"? Evil?

[@Adam-Epler]

Great point. One thing Vidal said, quoting Eleanor Roosevelt: "the people aren't dumb, you just have to explain things to them." Now we run into an issue of how much time this generation is willing to allocate to a single talk-show, interview, etc. Not to mention novels. Even Charlie Rose/Larry King's style seems antiquated now. What a shame...

[@sueelliott8085]

I admire him for “staying out of jail all these years”. What a fantastic put down. It just about sums up my feelings about his boy Trump.

[@jordanmascarenhas7974]

Wait til your boy Hunter goes to jail

[@sueelliott8085]

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 What has Hunter Biden got to do with anything. He is a private citizen and has absolutely nothing to do with me. Trump has 40+ legal cases pending and growing. He has been banned from ever owning a charity, and likely to be banned from doing business in New York. He is being investigated under the Espionage Act ,and for Sedition. He keeps losing case after case in a Conservative Supreme Court, yet out of a population of 326m he is the person you chose to give the power of the immense power of the Presidency.

[@terri6854]

@jordanmascarenhas7974 Ha! Your corny comment aged like milk. Russian spy now arrested for feeding false info to fbi and gop.

[@chrishinton3868]

​@@jordanmascarenhas7974nah the sexual predator and fraudster and traitor will be in jail very soon and since he's a bully who picks on little girls he'll get his due reward in prison and Dude get out of the cult you don't think you are in

[@edwardsbarbara25]

​@@jordanmascarenhas7974Our 'boy'? Quite a non issue to us. You guys are the ones that blew it out of proportion

[@euchrideucrow1970]

Roy Cohn, the most staggering case of internalised homophobia ever to have drawn breath.

[@Gledge9]

And he was probably in the closet the whole time too

[@euchrideucrow1970]

@@Gledge9 He definitely was. Even when he was dying of AIDS he was claiming it was cancer. He has a panel on the AIDS quilt that says ‘Bully, Coward, Victim’. He was tragic in every way.

[@tomripsin730]

J. Edgar Hoover was at least a close second.

[@billf7062]

Cohn was a closeted homosexual and this probably caused self-loathing and outward vitriol.

[@bertharuiz1225]

@@euchrideucrow1970/ read that.died from aids but denying. Trump distanced himself during that period.

[@cindymaceda2999]

Vidal : McCarthyism, the eponymous - or the original founder of the term… Cohn : I’m glad you explained that word. I was going to call Bill Buckley. 😊 Vidal : You would’ve gotten through to him very quickly. 😂 Touché.

[@paulnolan4971]

Vidal. Always exquisite😂

[@pmfg875]

he got Cohn to sing like a canary, epic solving the equation for x

[@lccsd2392]

Right, Cohn just happened to have a list of Gore Vidal quotes in his pocket even though he says he didn't know they would be debating each other. Same old tricks.

[@sandraleigh4023]

Deny - Deflect - Project! That is the trump/maga mantra, and evidently, one of the "lessons" he picked up from Cohn.

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Cohn : I know that that (homosexuality) is your favorite topic of conversation. Vidal: -it’s aroused by the obvious.

[@paulscottfilms]

haha Cohn is brilliant

[@barbdanalfaro8039]

@Ross Smith QA

[@beccadabeast5013]

@@paulscottfilms Cohn just about drank himself to death after contracting AIDS. brilliant..indeed. 🙄

[@dg1006]

@smith simon Both, sadly Cohn was self hating which at the time was common.

[@SuperGuanine]

@@beccadabeast5013 when did Cohn contract AIDS?

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Gore Vidal: ‘-since Roy Cohn is one of the greatest living defenders in and out of court, not only of Joseph McCarthy, but of Roy Cohn-‘ 🤣

[@juanitamora4857]

That's the only truth gore vidal said. As it should be!!! You defend yourself 1st and then your clients, gore did the same thing!!! He defended himself 1st

[@JoeMama-dy6op]

Gore Videl was a prissy little queen.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards.

[@ianbanks2844]

@Joe Mama as was Roy Cohn who died of aids that he acquired with his homosexual activities . And yet publicly he slated gay people . What a liar he was .

[@roystonmason9125]

McCarthy was also CLOSETED and LOVED LADIES PANTIES ! HEY mary

[@JudithRandall-vz1zk]

We need some Bill Boggs now. He asked the hard questions. A real journalist, unlike the toadies that simply report what the rich want them to say.

[@DBEdwards]

This video is so amazing and rare in 2022. America is BRAIN DEAD now

[@ter521fad]

Of course America is brain dead. That’s the America the owners of this country want. A nation of conformist consumers who are more than happy to just pay their rising taxes and shut the hell up and not question anything their government does. The government they’re paying for. A brain dead America is what the country’s owners want and they got it. They got it a long time ago.

[@Albo96286]

Boy do i wish Gore Vidal were around these last 7 yrs.

[@drumraine6910]

19:47 Cohn says he didn't know that Vidal was going to be on, but 7 minutes earlier he pulled a collection of Vidal quotes out of his pocket which ''somebody gave to me this morning'' - evidence of a set-up which the presenter was at pains to deny?

[@xs10tl1]

The entire interview was a setup. It was like an early version of Jerry Springer.

[@WindTurbineSyndrome]

Roy Cohn did not walk into that stage not knowing Gore Vidal would be there he would have had his spies tell him who he would be on stage with him.

[@dougtaylor2803]

Not how I interpret the situation. From what Vidal said, it sounds like he was aware that Cohn would be there, but not just him. In other words, it would not be a debate between Vidal and Cohn, therefore not necessary to prepare for a debate. Cohn, being a lawyer and combative by nature and trade, would have prepared notes in Vidal in case challenged by him. As a good boy scout, Cohn obeyed the mantra, to always be prepared. :)

[@stevencoardvenice]

​@@dougtaylor2803 Cohn probably had files on him since the 50s

[@jeffburns4219]

@@dougtaylor2803 At least something of a set-up then. Anyway, let’s suppose that Cohn, like Vidal, hadn’t sussed it out. That still wouldn’t necessary make his obviously prepared written notes “just in case”. It could well be that Cohn, due to his, as you say, pugilistic nature, was determined to turn the program into a battle (an ad hominem one at that) with Vidal no matter what the host had in mind.

[@mustlovedogs8179]

They also classified people fighting for civil rights as communists.

[@Intellisecular]

Many of them were. Read Paul Kengor's book Dupes.

[@allymayful]

Paul Robson

[@bertharuiz1225]

And that PEOPLE buy into that is frightening. All this bc Republicans secretly want control but now are known as spineless, cowards, and hypocrites .

[@JLova82]

*They are the people* to whom you refer. You just don't know how the story goes.

[@MrShanester117]

They classified everyone who didn’t walk their line communists

[@merrygangemi]

FU Roy Cohen. The poster boy for destroying one's life.

[@sebtonz1]

A most vile being who had a big hand in creating FrankenTrump. Despicable pos.

[@Bibbo8844hdbks]

I think you mean to say rest in peace.

[@martian-sunset]

When Roy Cohn died the world immediately smelled better. The man was rotten to the core.

[@lookfor125]

The irony ..If the worm hasn’t turned or what..Actually ,Roy Cohn made some very reasonable and sensible arguments,especially in regards to Communism ..The left uses ,or let’s say adopted McCarthyism .Words like racism ,they have definitely taken on the equivalency ,to be labeled a Communist..I’m sorry,but McCarthyism hasn’t died..It just isn’t covered anymore ,especially by the unbiased members inside our intelligentsia…you know,the press i😂

[@uckbee]

Trump's mentor. True story!

[@joetatoesniff9525]

He was an excellent lawyer that only won his cases! 🙌 👏☠️

[@NnNn-yr7mu]

Nice comment Martin ......

[@bertroost1675]

What's is the main reason for your hatred?

[@l0ok5ko0l]

I love Bill Bogg's interviewing style. Should be more like him today.

[@WatchtowerHunter]

One of the most contemptible men of the 20th century. And sure, there was such widespread admiration of Joe McCarthy. I was alive and that is an absolute lie. Not surprising coming from Trump’s mentor.

[@roughhabit9085]

Are you sensible?

[@gerrybailey447]

They say he thought Trump everything he knows, and boy he knows everything 😆 well as much about everything as a blind man with cloth ears can know 😂

[@jeffburns4219]

I was born the year after McCarthy was censured by the United States Senate 67-22, and I was only one year old when he died, but at the time I began regularly to watch Walter Cronkite and read Time Magazine and Newsweek 1967 McCarthy was still much discussed. I don’t recall encountering a single favorable opinion of the man. I have lived in the Midwest all of my life, never on either coast. Yes, Cohn is lying. The Senate Censure in and of itself should be enough to confirm that.

[@9Point8]

Listen to Rachel Maddows podcast about the McCarthy era and the parallels to Trump and maga are startling. McCarthy did have a huge following in his home state of Wisconsin and around the country. Much like Trump, he lied and repeated the lies until many believed him. Cohn was his choreographer.

[@XX-qi5eu]

1946 to 1948, McCarthy had millions of supporters. Post censure, they wanted him to run for President and had he lived, he would've run.

[@dashasl2582]

Thanks for posting. Always liked Gore Vidal Never heard of Roy Cohn till recently. Glad to have it confirmed who and what he was.

[@lsingstock1646]

You're not political, I take it. Trump took Cohn's teachings, which made him a very evil being.

[@nancyooley8157]

He was Trump's mentor. He was hated among all the decent societies in New York. He was a gay, bitter man who was evil to the core. ( Sound familiar?) He's motto was 1) attact, attact, attack, 2) never admit you are wrong, and lie about it 3) NEVER admit you lost. Trump's playbook

[@cg5648]

@@nancyooley8157isn’t that Hillary’s playbook and the Democrat party? 😂😂😂😂

[@nancyooley8157]

@@cg5648 only to the scumbag MAGA.

[@rypoelk997]

Roy Cohn couldn't look at Vidal while he was arguing because he was threatened by him

[@iadorenewyork1]

Cohn never quite looked directly at people, I noticed.

[@MrUndersolo]

Or turned on.

[@roughhabit6496]

And yet Cohn was ten times better connected. Go figure.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

Actually, history made Vidal Gore out to be the fool. Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards, not superior.

[@arriuscalpurniuspiso]

Roy met his superior in Gore Vidal

[@BlackRiverBay]

Thank you for making this video available. I miss watching intelligent and civil debates on television. Seems like forever ago.

[@MrInterestingthings]

Those in control dont want us informed and Republicans recognized this was a way to get more socialist tendencies in our system giving them less to steal. The lack of necesary t.v. and education helped rUMP.

[@54tristin]

What a great interview! Look how two bitter enemies were able to debate each other in a civil manner.

[@62Cristoforo]

Imagine a similar debate today with Sarah Palin and Bill Maher. The fur would fly.

[@bernardliu8526]

@@esltogo6898 Palin was, and is, a cretin !

[@brianwalsh1401]

@@62Cristoforo Why in, gods name, would you use Palin. She is not in any manner an intellectual. I think Maher's pretty smart how about put him up against Roger Stone who is a lot like Roy Cohn.

[@brandoncrusen9160]

Look at how Cohn's lies and dishonesty survive. Why are some men able to make their way with utter dishonesty and corruption? Why was Cohn not in prison?

[@roughhabit9085]

@ Brian Walsh . No I think when you graduate top of your class and are still too young for your Bar examination, that you might have a bit more intellectual clout than a PR man.

[@JohnIrvin-g8o]

When Gore brings up the matter of homosexuality and has an exchange with Cohn, I could hear laughter in the background. These guys got it back then.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jeffjones3040]

As you probably realize, the reason it SHOULD be brought up, is because COHN and McCARTHY are HYPOCRITES!!!! Slander and Libel everyone about their alleged political beliefs. They should have realized that it is hypocritical to persecute your fellow citizens, over something that is socially unaccepted.

[@jeffjones3040]

As you probably realize, the reason it SHOULD be brought up, is because COHN and McCARTHY are HYPOCRITES!!!! Slander and Libel everyone about their alleged political beliefs. They should have realized that it is hypocritical to persecute your fellow citizens, over something that is socially unaccepted.

[@MrShanester117]

Gore was a bisexual and admitted it. Cohn was a homosexual and denied it to the grave

[@faerykat]

I was 12 when this happened. It's nice to watch Gore Vidal as an adult. I actually have several photographs with him in them from old Peace and Freedom Party gatherings in and around Venice, Ca. My aunt took them.

[@vaunniethayer1484]

Roy Cohn looks like a character from the movie, Night of the Living Dead. Ghoulish.

[@splinterbyrd]

He clearly enjoys being disliked

[@altaischurale7324]

Lets see what you look like !

[@vllukens7265]

"There’s rules. The first rule is attack, attack, attack. Rule two: Admit nothing, deny everything. Rule three: No matter what happens, you claim victory and never admit defeat" Roy Cohn

[@brandi5730]

Awesome

[@MrJoeybabe25]

Two fascinating historical characters! Thank you Bill. Hope for more like this!

[@pool2587]

I wish

[@Chris-is6xb]

Fascinating? RC was a genuine piece of excrement.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so this was an especially interesting interview!

[@62Cristoforo]

Credits to the shows producer who managed to sneak both highly eloquent guests, yet mortal enemies, into the same studio, unbeknownst to each other, resulting in a modern day verbal joust.

[@newgenerationtechnology2930]

Roy always looked like a villain like his face was made in a special effects department

[@jordanmascarenhas7974]

Don’t be a racist anti-Semite

[@newgenerationtechnology2930]

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 lol dude shut up

[@newgenerationtechnology2930]

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 i said nothing about him being a jew carry on

[@WindTurbineSyndrome]

His face was ruined not that he would ever be accused of being handsome but his mother insisted on plastic surgery on his nose as a newborn and he lived with scar his whole life.

[@roughhabit6496]

The vulgar crowd always is taken by appearances….

[@majkus]

"And that little boy that nobody liked… grew up to be… Roy Cohn. And now you know the rest of the story." - The Simpsons, parodying Paul Harvey.

[@krimskrams]

I remember that and I always wondered who they were referring to. now that I recognized the name in this clip, I must say, that if he was a man to be made fun of, he still came across as more likable and intelligent than the shitshow we have now. the art of the dialogue is lost.

[@plunderpunk2]

Roy Cohn was one of the greatest monsters America ever produced.

[@AlbertPaysonTerhune]

Have not seen that. Must find that.

[@tomripsin730]

Just one of countless examples of how The Simpsons had better jokes during scene transitions than a lot of sit coms have throughout entire episodes.

[@MrMatteNWk]

Lisa: "These are my friends, grown-up nerds like Gore Vidal, and even he's kissed more boys than I ever will." Marge: "Girls, Lisa, boys kiss girls."

[@AnnapolisGirly]

Just saw the movie (The Apprentice). Jeremy Strong did such an amazing job portraying him.

[@qguru5533]

Within this video lay the crux of every sorrow and burden we now carry upon our backs.

[@john-brady]

This is fantastic! Thanks for posting 1977 - yeah…

[@travisswiger1565]

Where the hell are these intellectual, intelligent, and informational sources of debate now? So disappointing that the public has no access to this on television.

[@robertwiles8106]

They are too busy twerking.😂

[@roystonmason9125]

Miserable nothing even close in todays sheltered red / blue society

[@MLM68]

You do know Cohen was a closeted homosexual who died of aids

[@bertroost1675]

Why? They wouldn't watch it anyway. Most people are morons.

[@granthurlburt4062]

TV has destroyed American minds. Dick Cavett was a brilliant intellectual compared to what we have now. Letterman, Colbert and Seth Meyers etc. are quick but superficial-they have to be in the present intellectual environment.

[@joonaslehtonen7965]

During one of his speeches in Army-McCarthy hearings Roy gave a tribute speech to Joe. After that he was approached by an old lady who said sumthin like: "Oh, mr Cohn, i thought you gave such a heartfelt tribute to that senator!" Roy didnt even look the old lady but turned to his companion (whose name i cant remember but this story is from him) and said: "Allmost believed myself too."

[@oleeb]

Gore Vidal was one of the great American intellectuals of the late 20th Century. Cohn spends most of this interview misdirecting the conversation. He began by claiming McCarthy was dedicated to stopping the Communist menace around the globe when McCarthy was known for was claiming the Communists were "infiltrating" the State Department and the US Army neither of which was true. Vidal, who was openly gay, was really digging at Cohn, who was also gay but closeted, by pointing out very subtly that he was gay and intimated that McCarthy may have been gay. Those comments made Cohn visibly uncomfortable.

[@cindymaceda2999]

Then Cohn died of AIDS, didn’t he?

[@MS-wb5mf]

I always wondered about Nixon and Robozo.

[@christophergraves6725]

There were Soviet agents in the State Department and the military as well as the White House under FDR. Alger Hiss was, in fact, a Soviet agent. Then there were people in government, academia, and the news and entertainment industry who were sympathetic with the Soviets. Harry Dexter White and Harry Hopkins were both sympathetic with the Soviets as was FDR himself who was no Marxist, but saw Stalin's economic program was the New Deal on steroids.

[@stevencoardvenice]

I'm a leftist and a communist sympathizer and I can assure u it was true. Communists held many high offices in the state department and executive branch. Remember, the soviets were our allies in ww2. So thjs was acceptable during FDR era. Communism was trendy in the 30s and 40s among urban workers, intellectuals, artists and celebrities. The ussr was fighting fascism for us

[@feedermonkey7233]

Great comment. Best to You🕊

[@simoncroston4581]

Vidal is excellent here.

[@MediaDestroyer]

"and that little boy whom nobody liked turned out to be Roy Cohn"

[@ileanasantamaria2364]

Including and especially his mother, it appears.

[@erc9468]

I like him alot - he makes a great argument about the reality of the danger of Communism and how it was important to acknowledge it.

[@frankgarrett242]

WOW!

[@jamespardue3055]

or Stephen Miller

[@arndbrack2339]

@@jamespardue3055 thank you

[@TimothyJonSarris]

Cohn defends McCarthy AND Caligula!

[@Z0Dll]

Caligula was actually a genius. Mccarthy was right more than half the time wich is more than the average poilitician. Cohn vindicated.

[@subversivelysurreal3645]

Roy Cohn WAS Caligula...he underestimated himself.

[@martinhanley9524]

McCarthy was right - look at Covid (leaked from a Communist laboratory ) and the censorship that is occurring and ‘woke / cancel culture ‘ . And for me to exercise this opinion could be prosecuted by fifth columners as Omar Talib - Yes - McCarthy had his faults but he was right about Communism and the Risenbergs ! I’ll let you get back to NPR and the NYTimes now ! 🙄

[@paulscottfilms]

No zombie, Caligula not defended, go and watch some TV

[@beccadabeast5013]

@@martinhanley9524 Really? Covid was "leaked" from a commie lab? 🙄 You're leaving that ignorant comment on social media in the 21st century? Good grief. America prays you grow a free, critical thinking brain. Sooner rather than later. 🤣😂

[@jimhackett2416]

I'm a Gore Vidal fan, but this interview in my opinion shows some of his weaknesses... he had a tendency to get petty and personal which again in my opinion mitigated the impact of the points he tries to make and often causes him to wander

[@donofon1014]

I for one appreciate your thoughtful comment. These two men seem to have been connived into a joint appearance .. not an ethical practice. Cohn brought his notes to attack the "Tail Gunner Joe" broadcast and Vidal hadn't even seen it. ( I read the book and saw the drama ) So who is not manipulated in this arrangement? As a viewer of this old video .. I feel it.

[@briangraham1024]

Where's my Roy Cohn!!!" - the orange clown 😂

[@cg5648]

Where’s my Cloward and Piven? 😂

[@peteralexander7943]

Remember, Roy Cohn taught Trump everything he needed to know on how to handle the media and his legal affairs. As for Gore Vidal, I wish I had listened more closely to him years ago. His historical knowledge concerning the political and social movements in our country are unparalleled.

[@meandmymonkey5137]

He dident teach trump crapp. He just took his money and kept him out of trouble .

[@BGNOLA]

"Roy Cohn taught Trump everything he needed to know"? Oh how I wish.

[@xs10tl1]

Vidal had historical knowledge but piss-poor judgement. Such as lying about the Cuban people being better off. Hindsight has proven nearly all of his statements to be wrong. He was also part of the wave to end the Electoral College....the mating call of Totalitarians.

[@jimcima]

@@xs10tl1 The Cuban people aren't better off because of an unrelenting 60 year campaign of crippling economic sanctions, murder plots against their leadership and numerous attempted coups by the United States.

[@rickb3650]

@@xs10tl1 Do you think that Fidel and Che threw the Gangsters and Fascists of the island by themselves? Despite over 60 years of unrelenting pressure from the world's most powerful nation, as Hello It's Me mentions, that tiny island with a population smaller than several American cities has no homeless people. Has a near 100% literacy rate. And produces more Doctors than the U.S., every year. In fact, what problems Cuba does have are the direct result of our nation's policies to deprive and destabilize their people and the government they chose.

[@monacojerry]

Slagging and trolling at a high intellectual level. This interview took place in 1977. Of course, it was the decade of great boxing matches. It fits right in

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

Thank you for the date!

[@genemagruder9696]

Notice how Cohn never looks at Vidal in the eye for more than a second or two at a time...

[@joecesa1013]

I love how Roy Cohn never looks over at Gore Vidal.

[@julianparks8485]

But he does.

[@jen21629]

Trump was the same with Kamala. Maybe side eye that’s about it 🤣

[@randolphpinkle4482]

@@jen21629 Yes, leering.

[@oldtimer7635]

What's so lovable in that? Chickenshit, I would say.

[@pavanatanaya]

@@oldtimer7635 There is a reason why Cohn cant smile. I'm quite sure he was curb stomped as a child

[@jmd26]

The implied gay accusations that go back and forth are hysterical and delicious. "It's aroused by the obvious" Chef's kiss.

[@tommym321]

I laughed out loud at that. Whatever you think of Vidal, you can’t deny he had wit.

[@arriuscalpurniuspiso]

Cohn died of AIDS

[@jeffcrocker1078]

I comprehend everything you said I could never have composed that so brilliantly so fucking hillarious

[@jeffcrocker1078]

Gore Vidal’s mannerisms are at an SCTV level like Rick moranis or Eugene levy is playing him

[@alainriviere7950]

Bill Boggs interviewing 2 gay guys with different viewpoints. Terrific.

[@TheViolettowne]

That was great. Now I am looking for a debate between Cristopher Hitchins and Gore Vidal!

[@evangray2594]

They may have had differing viewpoints, but Hitchens would never have tried to debate Vidal.

[@northwest9775]

That is the little weirdo that taught Trump how to lie

[@BïrKnVöiD]

Weird little dudes...

[@cg5648]

How about Hillary Clinton?

[@MrInterestingthings]

But who taught the over 70 millions to lie,be hypocritical,misogynist andcracist. People just shitty@

[@joeyjo-joshabadu9636]

​@@cg5648no one cares about her anymore

[@recklessralphfromqueens8383]

How do you attribute: * “15 days to flatten the curve “, * “ Safe and effective “ * “ No voter fraud “ * “ Masks protect…” * “ Biden is as sharp as ever…” To Trump ?!?! Those are not attributable to Cohn, but little weirdos like Fauci !

[@michaelmorrissey1052]

Great interview, Thanks 😷

[@newgenerationtechnology2930]

Two high powered queens 👸

[@irocitZ]

Haha, you ain't kidding..

[@Gottenhimfella]

One of them a closet queen, a poisonous, thug-enabling toad... and a mentor to the worst President the US has ever had ... and hopefully, ever will.

[@kevyjo]

I hear a noise of two cats expressing themselves before going at it

[@lunhil12]

Vidal must be the red queen seeing how expertly Cohn got beheaded.

[@paulaoh5306]

Vidal was out, for the most part, and Cohn was closeted, and not only closeted but homophobic himself. There is nothing authentic about that man except for the evil that seeps through his skin.

[@rodneycroft5889]

Two very interesting people who are disagreeing with facts on both sides. Leaving the viewer’s the respect to make up their own minds. Very enjoyable to me.

[@Jimmy-Legs]

I wouldn’t believe anything Cohn would say.

[@splinterbyrd]

With this sort of discussion I often wonder if hysterically anti-communist participants like Roy Marcus Cohn have ever actually visited a communist country.

[@pool2587]

Great debate💜♥️ thank you all

[@blaxtru]

Roy has all the allure of Count Dracula.

[@paulscottfilms]

whats the matter with you. maybe a simpleton.

[@gomezaddams4347]

@@paulscottfilms If you don’t know how evil Cohn was, you have no business calling anyone else a simpleton. If you do know and it doesn’t bother you then you’re a scumbag. Either way, you lose.

[@tapptom]

Dracula infected with the last stage of HIV. Same one that said he was sexually attracted to Trump. Remember he had that boyfriend that got drafted and looked exactly like Trump

[@Not-Ap]

And 10x the power.

[@roughhabit9085]

Could you envisage yourself as one of his concubines?

[@onehumanhistory]

Wow Gore knew Roy was in the closet...

[@tylerlately]

12:57 poor Roy lol

[@690169016901]

Wow ya in a big way.

[@timothymeehan181]

“Takes one to know one”? Gore had the maturity & bravery to acknowledge his own sexuality. Cohn was…well, where to begin? Simply a disgustingly poor excuse for a human being in a thousand ways..

[@seanosull2884]

I think everyone knew

[@darbyheavey406]

Takes one to know one.

[@AJ-gv2hj]

Thanks for putting up these portals back into time. It brings a lot of context to the discussions we're still having today.

[@billkeaveney1526]

Gore Vidal was an eloquent speaker

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

True

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

More like a pompous, arrogant jerk

[@billkeaveney1526]

@@JohnB-dr8sk no.

[@robertortiz-wilson1588]

@@JohnB-dr8sk true, he was also indeed a pompous and arrogant jerk.

[@bernardliu8526]

I am awed by the IQ of both men !

[@ihatespam2]

Even that monster Cohn? Blech

[@TheRealTrueFabio]

Great interview of two exsplosive characters! Thanks

[@hart60]

This is great stuff. Mr Boggs did some great historic interviews.

[@chriskillingsworth6435]

Loved this discussion. Intellectual, as it was. Dry and pointy. Thanks!

[@renesalomon1396]

gore vidal is a national treasure

[@yowzephyr]

I was glad to find out what year this was aired. 1977. Cohn says the year at 7:01.

[@jack-ln9nu]

I didn’t know that Will Ferrell was a journalist in the 70s

[@WestIndianAK]

Sure you did. Didn't you see "Anchorman"? ;)

[@rebeccamueller7564]

EXACTLY what I was thinking. :)

[@mordecaiesther3591]

Roy Cohn was the best . So proud of him .

[@sherirobinson5112]

🤣

[@davidean970]

I had to do a double-take too.

[@That_Random_Bloke]

2:18 “You were the guy behind him, pushing” Giggity...

[@michaelbarnhart2593]

During the days of the Senate Rackets Committee, RFK hated Roy Cohn because he saw right through him. When RFK died from an assassin's bullet, Cohn threw a party in NYC.

[@amylemmer7264]

😮

[@MatthewHerronplus]

Amazing how stuff like this was broadcast on mass media! A great civil debate with two people who actually know something about what they are debating!!! The internet made us all stupid

[@katadam2186]

The Naked Communist, the goals outed in this book made people propagandized its to bad most don’t realize, Ck out Edward Bernay’s he explains how

[@jaycee2257]

@@katadam2186 No.

[@jeanettesteed3326]

Great how they are very polite to one another

[@meh8982]

It would have been unacceptable at that time for them not to be polite to each other, on camera, in public.

[@veecee3669]

Thank you for posting this most interesting interview; I've liked and subscribed, and I look forward to watching many more videos on your channel.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

The world needs Gore Vidal now more than ever.

[@ravingircey]

Roy Cohn did surprisingly well against a superior opponent but I score a TKO for Vidal. Landed the best lines. Brilliant.

[@roughhabit6496]

Yeah I know who I’d rather have advocating my defence.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% correct by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards compared to Roy's facts.

[@skeena59]

@@roughhabit6496 there's only one lawyer on that stage and it's Cohn.

[@dentonfender6492]

Gore Vidal was so intelligent, and at the same time he was so cool, and he had sa·​voir faire, I sure wish Gore Vidal, and Christopher Hitchens were still alive today to comment on America. I loved listening to both of them for knowledge, inspiration, and wise anecdotes.

[@axelfussi9861]

Great debate. Why is the sound off from 11:49 to 12:05?

[@donofon1014]

A libelous statement was being made. I am guessing a long ago threat of legal action is the answer.

[@kerrybock766]

The host looks like Will Ferrel and Cohn looks like a roughly aged version of Steven Miller. Have you ever seen someone with a more utterly dead lack of expression on their face? Like he's been eaten from inside

[@MatthewMoore-fv2iw]

An aging Billy Joel

[@lawrence-k7v]

Notice how Cohn does not look at either Vidal or Boggs. He avoids looking directly at them when he speaks. He is guilty as charged.

[@bellcocentx]

I had the same two thoughts...

[@alankavanaugh6701]

This interview and conversation is fantastic. Two Intelligent people on different sides of the argument. Actually having a civil and respect full conversation! Love it and very deep respect for both individuals. Why cant we learn from an example of civil discussion like this ?

[@brandoncrusen9160]

How is Roy Cohn intelligent? A grotesquely dishonest liar.

[@roughhabit9085]

Omg what an original comment.

[@WindTurbineSyndrome]

Wow witty riposte by an intellectual guest author Gore Vidal who uses language. Unlike what people do today. In English public school men were taught debating and how to parse an argument in public as part of their education so many went into politics, government, and industry.

[@johnny-r]

We don't need to learn anything. We have cell phones.

[@CesarClouds]

@@johnny-rLol

[@TheMarmite09]

"Roy Cohn has managed to stay out of jail all of these years and I admire him for that" 😂 that's the best comeback if you tell me!

[@randywatts6969]

Roy Cohn is roasting in the netherworld below…☠️

[@carolcohen9913]

Cohn reminds me of Stephan Miller.

[@MrDan11422]

A performance of a liar. Blame, distort, and double down. Notice how Roy starts off calling others of lying. Then distort the word communist to fit anyone who he does not like. Then never backs down. Trump used the same tactics, only foolish people bought what he sold.

[@hughmac13]

Well spotted. I wouldn't be surprised if Cohn had served as, and remains, one of Miller's primary role models.

[@mannysanguena7900]

Now you understand how Stephen Miller's character was appreciated by Donald Trump.

[@uwsgrrrl9981]

He’s worse!

[@glossypots]

Stephen Miller reminds me of Goebbels

[@bunkhabit]

Cohn claims he had no previous knowledge of Vidal appearing with him on the show - and this was after he pulls out a piece of paper from which reads Vidal quotes…

[@chrisbuttermore776]

Gotta laugh out load get it?

[@geoff3103]

LOL at these two LGBT boys with VASTLY different political views. LOL even more at the homosexual cracks around the 13 minute mark, considering the two participants involved.

[@miketars3208]

ROY COHN ..... THE MAN WE CAN BLAME FOR DONALD TRUMP

[@Greg07623]

Their styles are identical.

[@jessewolf7649]

Thank, not Blame.

[@arvydas0069]

Shake his hand?

[@Crezelltree4261]

We can also thank Barack Obama for Biden & Harris.

[@Greg07623]

@@arvydas0069 He would rather you shake something slightly lower than his hand. DT also learned how to be a sexual predator from Roy Cohn.

[@cindymaceda2999]

Vidal’s parting words: “Roy Cohn has stayed out of jail all these years & I’d like to hire him as my lawyer.” Cohn is Drumpf’s role model.

[@johnzimpelman9018]

Trump's role models are Putin, Erdogan, Xi, Orban, and other authoritarian leaders. Cohn was Trump's mentor which is why Trump uses disinformation, the aggrieved victimized narrative, bullying, jury tampering, and threats of violence.

[@jaylockwood5030]

TDS.

[@if6was929]

@@jaylockwood5030 Every single person will speak about Jeffery Epstein or Harvey Weinstein in the most disgusting terms because every single person knows that those two men are beneath contempt, they are total scumbags. No one will say that you have a derangement syndrome for condemning them because everyone _knows_* they are criminals. Yet, the people who support and defend the convicted sex offender, POTUS non grata Donald Trump, willfully ignore his many, many crimes yet, they have the audacity to say his detractors have a derangement syndrome! The people with TDS are those who ignore Trump's crimes, not those who condemn him! MAGA is a cult populated by people who are unable to discern truth from lies!

[@mckernan603]

Your old queen Cohn had JFKDS and LBJDS.

[@batswbennett]

@@jaylockwood5030 Loser

[@novakingood3788]

I've never heard of Cohn (bit too young and from a different country), but he sounds like a real charmer. I particularly liked the story about how he "entered the hospital room of the dying and comatose Lewis Rosenstiel, the multi-millionaire founder of Schenley Industries, forced a pen to his hand and lifted it to the will, in an attempt to make himself and Cathy Frank, Rosenstiel's granddaughter, beneficiaries". Like I said, a real charmer.

[@internetwonderbuilder4741]

He was Trump's mentor. For real.

[@michaelterry1000]

And the great defender of Studio 54.

[@misspm8157]

He was the head MOB lawyer in New York. He was totally ruthless. Then died of aids.

[@brianwalsh1401]

He's a narcissist or sociopath. They lack any scruples and stuff like this wouldn't bother them a bit unless of course he didn't take the opportunity to do it and then he would kick himself. Just watched Victim, something something on netflix about his life. The guy wouldn't pay people and used people like all narcs and sociopaths as pawns in their game of life. I'm sure trump already was doing all of this stuff by the time he met Cohn.

[@brandoncrusen9160]

He was the close number 2 under McCarthy. A very important part of American history to know and understand. The Edward R. Murrow School of Journalism is at WSU. People like Cohn are absolute snakes yet somehow allowed to survive and prosper. A fascist. Taught Donald Trump a lot, was also closely involved with Roger Stone, Paul Manafort and Richard Nixon.

[@ronagoodwell2709]

"Roy Cohn has managed to stay out of jail all these years, and I admire him for that, and I'd like to have him as my lawyer." Gore Vidal sums up Trump's fixer from the early days. "Better call Roy."

[@DBEdwards]

Beautiful. You are SO VERY RIGHT. The apple falls always close to the tree

[@DBEdwards]

Brillant commentary beyond words. Good quote you made.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

Uh, no. Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release. So he was totally vindicated by history.

[@ronagoodwell2709]

@@JohnB-dr8sk Ah, Roy Cohn Jr. weighs in.

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

@@ronagoodwell2709 Anyone opposed to Communism is a "Roy Jr" to you comrade. Just so everyone here knows, all of these Marxist commenters here that hate Roy Cohn are planning to genocide half the country if they ever get full power. We know this from FBI informant Larry Grathwold's testimony to Congress in the 1970s about the Weather Underground. Bill Ayers and his cohorts were working directly with the CCP and the Soviet Union and talked openly about genociding 30 million Americans who opposed the world revolution. Larry Grathwold was praised by President Jimmy Carter and Democrats in Congress after his testimony. Roy Cohn is hated because he helped expose the world revolution here in America. It has nothing to do with anything else that he did. I am old and terminally ill with not much time to live, so thankfully, I won't be alive after these monsters attempt this great evil. But I leave this as a warning to others who will be alive who are trying to understand what is happening. You are all in grave danger if these maniacs aren't stopped....

[@dougt7665]

Roy Cohn was a monster.

[@DBEdwards]

Cohn was

[@roughhabit6496]

Sigh , so many people with shallow and unconsciously tragic lives.

[@johnbonivento9037]

When he was disbarred, then passed of AIDS, the "monster" was finally gone!!!

[@arriuscalpurniuspiso]

He was so physically repulsive

[@Martin-tn5lm]

A monster?! A rather small monster, don't you think?

[@Professorrob2k24]

Roy Cohn and Gore Vidal……WOW!!!!!

[@alexdelarge9778]

It's hard to believe that this is what American daytime TV used to be like.

[@mong4491]

The setle passive aggression, accompanied with elegance

[@kemetwice2390]

Subtle*

[@frokostjuicen]

this is gold!!

[@mrssmith1691]

"Current may be an exaggeration, but you are certainly here today." That might be the best off the cuff insult I have ever heard. They're both worthy intellectual opponents, I didn't expect to be impressed with Cohn's articulateness.

[@JohnnylMr]

Excellent moderation and questions, Bill.

[@kevinosborne2927]

Gore Vidal was an underappreciated national treasure.

[@joedeangelis4528]

In the book Losing Mum and Pup: A Memoir, Christopher Buckley wrote about a letter he received from Vidal soon after his dad passed away. Vidal had written that he was overjoyed that his father had died.

[@jordanmascarenhas7974]

National treasure to USSR

[@JohnB-dr8sk]

Actually, history made Vidal Gore out to be a fool. Roy Cohn and McCarthy were proven 100% by the Venona Transcripts and the Mitrokhin Archive release in the 1990s, so Vidal's responses now look dated and backwards, not superior.

[@thedarknessunderneathpodca6366]

@@jordanmascarenhas7974 he didn't want our kids getting slaughtered fighting it in foreign countries if that is what you mean. He wasn't a communism himself.

[@Francis-m2d]

@@joedeangelis4528 Why believe anything Buckley says?