THE MOST IMPORTANT WORKSHOP SAFETY VIDEO I WILL EVER MAKE

[@SpikeMoby]

My rule of thumb is always if you have even the slightest doubt about something, don’t do it. You’re absolutely right that safety is YOUR responsibility, not someone else’s.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Totally. 👍

[@mdsd77]

Man you are so right, was doing some normal table saw work today and something kept telling me to stop, so I did, shutdown everything and just walked away, found something else to do, felt uncomfortable. Still have all my digits and skin.

[@georgeprout42]

Rule of thumb - make sure that whatever you do, you get to keep that thumb attached.

[@SemtêxČØŴv2.0]

Modern world issues mate. It was the end of common sense when coffee cups had ‘warning hot’ on the side. Well done for saying this 👏. Think for yourself because it’s your fingers.

[@cjhification]

Fully support being responsible for your own behaviour. If the channel was targeting children I would see it as Andy's responsibility to keep the kids safe but it's not targeted at them so "look after yourself" rules. On the hot coffee bit, if you are going to super heat the coffee up to about 180°C because your a cheap fast food chain and want it to stay hot sitting on the side, "warning hot" coffee is probably sensible as it's normally served about 80°C. A hundred degrees makes a big difference. Also you've already heard of lots of people being injured by your lava coffee, and then thought, "oh, fuck it, it'll be fine". "Today I found out" put a good video together on it. Spoiler, frivolous law suits aren't as common as people think.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

I seen a guy hang a hazard sign on a low level board once to try and stop people bumping into it. The foreman came past, banged his head on the sign and said, "that f*****g sign is a safety hazard"!

[@timdoggett2739]

Loved your video. I had to laugh when you mentioned a palm router. My dad, a physician no less, gave me a 7/8 hp Porter Cable router when I was 11 yo as a gift. No instructions, no guidance. Obviously he wasn't a woodworker but he knew I loved making things. I'm in my 60s now and still use that same router. Every time I use it I think of my dad. I am grateful he gave me a quality tool that has served me well and I also think, "What the hell were you thinking!" He also gave me a lathe and bench grinder that same Christmas. I was the youngest of five kids so maybe that explains it! Loved my dad and lucky to have all my fingers.

[@mikepeacock8385]

Excellent Andy - how anyone can dislike this video is beyond me. They are most likely candidates for the queue at A&E / the ER.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Ha, it'll be the same folk who leave the comments suggesting safety is someone else's problem. 😂👍

[@TheChipmunk2008]

@@GosforthHandyman It is somebody else's problem. The sensible you who survived. I think the health and safety stuff is often omitted from yt videos because of the ridiculous 'ooo 8 minutes is too long for a video' attitude people have. (also some of the guards get in the way, as you know yourself) Another point about teenagers: their brains are wired to 'know it all'. They're still maturing. The brain will delete the bits that turned out to be wrong, eventually. But only if they survive. And I want more rants. If they come from the heart, they're moving!

[@peterratcliffe5115]

@@TheChipmunk2008 I'm inclined to agree with everything you said. On the other hand by trying to save people from doing stupid things, are we standing in the way of natural selection? 😂

[@cintulator1129]

"Wall of shame" ...a great idea! Every vocational school should have one!

[@lizettekristine6360]

I was just seeking videos on hazards, safety procedures, and proper use and care for equipment for an Art Ed exam I am taking and found this video-so I am not practicing any of the stuff you are doing or talking about at the moment…. BUT I love what you repeat about responsibility and LOVE the comment about how shirking off responsibility is what leads to a world like 1984! It’s something I have told my students in the past as well. Yes, we have freedom, but with freedom comes responsibility, and if we don’t learn self-governance and practice self-control, somebody bigger and stronger than you will step in to control you, and that’s how we lose our freedom-which is precious.

[@brumrunner15]

Mate, thankyou for this video. I am with a men's shed in Australia. Your video is something I would like to show some of our members, as a reminder of safety. I am the safety officer by the way and would like to establish a safety program within the shed. I know that there is a great deal of literature available to put around, but to have members collectively watch and discuss your video would be more advantages than privately reading about safety. Discussing safety as a group, gives everyone a real scope on others feelings and awareness! thankyou.

[@mrfaffley4479]

The tone and the message in this video are spot on. Responsibility for safety lies with the individual adult and we should remind ourselves of that regularly. I have a small workshop with a few power tools; a sign on the wall reads "Not only will these tools try to kill you, it will hurt the entire time you are dying. Safety first!" One of the best tips I heard was from Steve Ramsey (Woodworking for Mere Mortals) about visualising the actions you will take with a power tool on the workpiece before you do it for real. This is a good practice because with a little experience your instincts will tell you when something is not right during the visualisation and you can address that issue before it causes a problem with the power tool running.

[@eyeballe]

Couldn’t agree more...I’ve had my fair share of near misses with power tools, every one of them from misuse or incorrect use, all my own fault. 30 years ago Norm Abram was telling us “Be sure to read, understand and follow all the safety rules that come with your power tools. Knowing how to use your power tools properly will greatly reduce the risk of personal injury, and there is no more important safety rule than to use safety glasses”.

[@johnfithian-franks8276]

Hi Andy, I am a young 68 years old who has been woodworking all my life and had accidents that have been minor and 2 that have been serious (I lost 5 teeth and had to phone my girlfriend to take me to the hospital) and I agree with you 100%. I say a young 68 because even now safety is just as important as when I was young. The accident when I lost my top teeth was on the lathe, I was turning a tree branch and I did not know it was rotten inside, I turned the speed up and before I knew what had happened I was on the floor seeing birds flying around my head. My advice to anyone is always to consider yourself as an inexperienced woodworker and take every precaution you can.

[@douglasbrown3220]

dear sir ive just watched your video on a safety switches but when it got to the wireing part i could 'nt see what you where doing with the wires did your mains wire go in the bottom of your switch and the 4 gang go in the top of the switch i saw the earth wires go into the chock blockand aftre that you lost me, hope you can understand my explanation

[@bookerdesigns7295]

Well your video had the desired effect on me, in that I thought much more about safe practice the next time I went to the workshop. Even for long time professionals complacency is a dangerous thing. So thank you. I particularly like the ‘wall of shame’. Timely reminders are important. However I don’t agree entirely with what you were saying. The analogy you made didn’t really hold water. Watching a racing car IS entertainment and most sane people are not learning how to drive on the road from it. Making ‘How to ‘ videos is instructional as well as entertaining and those making them have the responsibility to point out whether the techniques they are using are safe practice or not, as people will copy the practices shown . I’m for ever using the table saw without guard or riving knife to cut tenons etc. If I ever was showing someone else how to do it I’d bear some responsibility to tell them how to minimise the dangers. I agree that each of us bears the majority of responsibility for our own safety, but uTubers who make instructional videos should make it clear what is safe practice. This comment isnt directed at you personally by the way, as I’m impressed by your clear careful instructional channel Finally, the safety instructions that manufacturers throw in the box are frankly, dull image-less multi language small print and often stating the ‘Bleeding obvious’ and seem to be just to cover themselves rather than actually engaging the end user in learning the safest way to use a specific tool. They should put a little more effort into manufacturers safety videos perhaps? Or at least something that you might read. Anyway, I’m off to start my own Wall of Shame!

[@SamValiant]

Great video Andy, my first thoughts when using any machine is to think about what can go wrong, even with tools I use all the time. The other day I was using the table saw and was doing a practise run and something didn't feel right, it was only when feeding stuff through with the machine did I notice that my outfeed rollers were at an ever so slight angle so could have caused kickback even with a riving knife in place.

[@t.alanblain6313]

Just found your channel. What you say about commenters criticising experienced people because they don't view the video as safe is so true. My mantra is I like the video and what they made, now how am I going to modify what they show me so that I feel that I can make it safely for me? Well done.

[@darrenwan4095]

A lot of power tools scare me and always have, especially ones with circular saw blades, the day I stop being scared of power tools is the day I stop using them.

[@DustyFingersRC]

I have the same fear which I hope will continue and keep me thinking twice about safety.

[@Pistol_Knight]

You shouldnt be scared of them, you should respect them for what they are, as Andy said SHARP THINGS SPINNING REALLY REALLY FAST = DANGER

[@gwav1a]

@@Pistol_Knight you are saying exactly what they are saying. You are saying x(1/2), they saying /2

[@BlessedLaymanNC]

I hate to say that I was a little disappointed in the direction you took this video. I was expecting it to be more of a safety tutorial. I consider myself to be a newbie since I have been away from woodworking for several decades and am just getting back in. Things are much different now. I agree 100% with everything you said. We are responsible for our own safety. I had an accident with resulted in me losing a short strip of skin about 1/8 inch wide and 5/8 inch long. It was only skin and didn't need stitches. But it was the best wake-up call I ever got. While I can say that my practice that day was influenced by what I saw on YT, I can't blame YTWs (KZbin Woodworkers) for the accident without giving them credit for the injury being so minimal. I didn't have safety guards on, but I did have the blade barely breaking the surface of the wood I was cutting. How it came to be that my thumb was less than 6 inches from the blade is still foggy. But, I can say it wasn't influenced by you guys stopping your blades with your thumbs. LOL. If I had my wish, it would be that each YTW created at least one safety tutorial video each year, especially for those of you who don't use safety equipment some or all the time. (Not that you are unsafe, but that you have different safety practices.) If each of you posted, just one tip, once a year, then there would be hundreds of safety videos covering things we newbies, and even experienced woodworkers, could learn from or be reminded of. What you said about the router bit bearing failure is an example. I never heard of it, thought of it, much less conceived of how the router might react to it. I really need to know this. Thank you. I 100% agree with you in this video. It's not what I expected, but it is as important as you said. Thank you for taking time to make it.

[@GosforthHandyman]

There's links in the desc to vids that go in to more detail. 👍

[@markrobinson3555]

Currently watching this after a very unproductive day due to me putting a 3.2mm drill completely through my knuckle yesterday... completely my fault, just a brain fart, yet it’s put me out of business until it heals! I’d consider myself very experienced with workshop machinery, yet it still happened. be safe out there! More to the point, workshop safety really is your responsibility, definitely nobody else’s! Well said Andy!

[@diyengineer811]

One building I was in had a small photo-frame sized mirror with a sign above it saying "This is the person responsible for your safety".

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

Love it! "I know how a teenage mind works... it doesn't!" 🤣🤣🤣 Thanks for the video. Accountability is, sadly, a lost premise.

[@GosforthHandyman]

With my kids sometimes all I can do is shake my head and walk away... 😂

[@robthewaywardwoodworker9956]

@@GosforthHandyman Amen!

[@TheChipmunk2008]

@@GosforthHandyman Like i said on the other post. They are WIRED to know everything at that age. Watch a wild animal with its young. The young will try everything.. they get smacked when they shouldn't be doing it. (no i'm not advocating for corporal punishment lol, it's just how animals deal with it). Our society now is a bit too 'if that's what you think who am I to argue'. You're the bloody parent, that's who...lol

[@kennith.]

A few years back I was watching a TV doc series and one of them was about teenagers and how their brains go through chemical changes during the teenage years. They did an experiment and gave some kids lessons on how to drive go karts round a circuit. The kids did well and even set good times. However when they introduced a crowd of their peers the kids "forgot" all the lessons and started to show off and compete and as a result they had crashes and terrible lap times.

[@williambuckley1185]

This is good stuff. I have learned a lot on youtube about safety in wood work. Over the last 40 years I have dabbled in wood work but before things like youtube and computers, I had no idea there was so much to learn about the subject. which in fact makes it much more intersting for me. I bought a lathe a while ago, haven't used it very much but the adrenlin rushes when using it, however, I have watched as may youtube films as I can find on this subject. I know this is a dangerous and expensive hobby and the fact that you have decided to take the time to explain about safety is one of the best films I have watched on youtube. I have worked in furniture factories a few times in my life which was a help, but during those times I wasn't taught much on safety. I am going to bookmark this film so I can remind myself about things I may have forgotten. I have had a couple of minor accidents in my work shop in the last couple of years, so it is extremely important to try hard to work as safely as possible. thanks again for this film.

[@jimcub22]

I was using a electric planner in my caravan, when doing a vertical plane at the end dropped it down and it brushed my little finger. Result was a blood splattered wall and a visit to A&E to try and sew the end on my finger together.

[@MoranGuyVideos]

Good video especially for beginners. One thing- people invest in power tools and hand tools but not as much in safety gear

[@oldal05]

Told as it should be.I am 83 years old and, being a builder , bricklayer and joiner off and on site for around 60 years, I still enter my shed checking by sight all power and tools, I know that when having previously exiting, something may have possibly missed my attention including the floor area. Safety First.

[@PhilsWorkshop1953]

Risk assessment is a very important factor in any workshop as it is the most dangerous place to be in well said Andy

[@tankmeltedargon8831]

Well said. I was watching the news yesterday and they were carrying on saying car manufacturers and mobile phone companies should be taking more responsibility to stop people using their mobile phones while driving by having phone blocking software in the car. How bloody ridiculous, people need to take responsibility for their own actions, it's not that hard to put your phone away or go hands free when driving.

[@suzanneevans4157]

I don't think any instruction manual will say that it's ok to ignore all safety advice, if you've been using the tools or machinary. If people want to do that off camera, that's their own risk but the do as I say, not as I do, isn't good enough when putting videos out to the public. It surprises me that you excuse it. Apart from this video, I really enjoy watching your content and have learned a lot.

[@mickeytheis7786]

So many of us (myself included) are our here using these tools without being mindful of safety. We can all benefit from your message. Thank you for emphasizing safety in your videos.

[@NomadMakes]

Hi Andy! I have a safety related question for you regarding dustmasks and respirators: You have mentioned on several occations, I dont know if it was in your videos or on the podcast, that when using dustmasks you need to change filters on a regular basis. When it comes to active filters that protect against gasses, I understand this. But when it comes to particles, I dont understand this - as long as the airflow through is sufficient enough that you dont suck in air other places than through the filter. Due to the horrible ventilation in my workshop, I need to wear a dustmaks/respirator more than most. And so I am looking into this subject. Also my current dustmask has replacable filters, but the shop where I bought it doesn't supply new filters. Maybe you have a view on this, or perhaps it can an idea for another safety videos. Again, great video! And keep it up. Love the vids and the podcast. Cheers.

[@drmkiwi]

You make some very good points and I totally agree my safety is my responsibility. Even though KZbin is "purely for entertainment" I feel this is to remove any liability from Google and or the KZbinrs that make all the wonderful, valuable and entertaining content, but the fact is many of us learn by seeing. My take on the "safety police" comments are a valuable opportunity for people who (are usually blissfully unaware and) do not understand there are inherent risks performing some of the operations seen in videos. By shutting the safety police down it can only increase the opportunity for people to get hurt. Part of a cabinetmaking course I attended they explained you develop skills so in the event you lose concentration for that fraction of a second you can still be protected. Thanks Andy for the video. Cheers, David.

[@pda49184]

Can't disagree with anything you said Andy.. It's all about common sense and 'taking responsibility' for our own actions.

[@zavoina]

You make some excellent points. As a 60 year old who recently got back into woodworking I was astonished by the “youngsters “ putting on ear and lung protection. When they put these on but take off a blade guard- there is a reason and the person should have a certain skill set to do so. They are not risking a hand but protecting their hearing. They are protecting themselves and using skills they have acquired. Some do it for the video, so a person can see some important aspect, but they still know what they’re doing. Still, telling someone they are responsible for themselves, well, who’d a thunk about that. It’s not fair! 🤭

[@NigelGent]

The best safety video I've ever seen. I've got a sign in my workshop "No Stupid People Beyond This Point" :¬}

[@zeroy]

top of your game and tons of experience are the primary reason for injuries. But I appreciate your trying to bring awareness.

[@LostWhits]

I've only worked at one cabinetmaking shop that on your first day, you were given two booklets, one to show how there cabinets are made and the quality expectations. The other was safety and operational sheets for the machines. Never seen them anywhere else.

[@BlackDogWoodwork]

You got this all right. I wont commit suicide because Ozzy told me to. Safety is up to me, and how I run my shop, and what I show on my videos is as I work, not how somebody should work. Thanks for this.

[@frankslittleworkshop]

Nicely done once again Andy 👍. The "Not IF... but When" statement is just so so true. And that WHEN is always when you least expect it. To all of the viewers out there that care to read these comments... listen to every word of this video... if you listen carefully.... you can hear... years of experience. Well done Andy.. Keep up the awesome vids.. and stay safe😁👍

[@MarcGray1990]

Well said mate! So many accidents still happen. I’ve rang my dad and told him to keep a watchful eye on me at work at all times for extra measure... he’s my gaffa also, and I’m 29 😂 although sometimes I have to watch him more closely! But on a serious note your bang on in what you say!

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Marc! 👍👊

[@matthewwhitley]

When you said young wood workers I felt like you were talking to me, then you said make sure your parents watch it too and realised I'm 35! Young at heart right!?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Younger than me! 😂👊

[@aerial_camera_video_imaging]

ALWAYS ALWAYS... SAFETY FIRST. Thank you.

[@k.b.woodworker3250]

Excellent points! In addition to reading and following the manual, responsibility also means understanding the principles behind what you are doing before you do it. Something may seem like common sense to someone experienced, but not to someone who's never taken a shop class and is trying to learn via youtube. A little while back, Stumpy Nubs made a video about a serious mistake in a "how to use featherboards" vid on youtube. A major woodworking publication had it on their channel, one of their regular contributors demonstrating it. Knowing the principles of a table saw would help a person see the error in this, but otherwise it could seem right. Often you don't know what you don't know, in other words. Responsibility also means assuming you don't know and seeking to understanding it thoroughly. Woodworking is not a "fly by the seat of your pants" "learn as you go" kind of thing. You can learn many things that way with no harm. I like how you stressed the danger. I once had a 17-year old son. Now that he's grown, he has lots of common sense, but then, not so much! ;) . Hard on the parents, too.

[@ianpearse4480]

Not a rant, just good advice as usual mate. As an ambulance technician I have attended far too many serious or fatal accidents involving workshop machinery. So keep it up, anything to avoid me having to do work! But I do wish I had checked the fuse settings before I cut into that wire this morning and tripped the safety. Thank heavens someone invented trip fuses.

[@kev5782]

Look forward to your chopsaw video! Wondering what went wrong for you there. Found your channel seeking info on table saw safety, as I haven't used one in over 20 years. I had a kickback experience in high school shop class that left a nasty bruise and I haven't touched one since.

[@markdarlington9914]

this I like responsibility and accountability.me good with metal complete amateur with wood got a bandsaw for wood 1st thing I got push sticks etc keep fingers away , naturally have air fed mask glasses etc this is a great reminder thank you , table saws forget it for me B & Q lol

[@darrenbrewster3345]

Excellent vid Andy Just a quick one for you You touched on clothing I’m a joiner of 20+ years and in that time I’ve seen a massive change re clothing as an apprentice along with the joiners I worked with we were all given bib n braces to wear with the option of a jacket as well other trades got boiler suits / coveralls today I’ve gone from the for mentioned to T-shirt,hoody and a pair of work trousers what a change in times Some jobs I go on it’s like a fashion show not a building site. One thing this video did get me thing about is weather or not the type of accident ( more so with fixed machinery ie table saws, planets etc ) has changed 🤔🤔🤔

[@fordp5573]

It's 'Plunge' power tools that scares the willies out of me. But do so agree with Andy regarding the wearing of loose or inappropriate clothing when using power tools.

[@raystaff386]

I'm never wearing my wife's wedding dress while making a wardrobe again.

[@GosforthHandyman]

Not unless it has an in-built face mask. 👍😂

[@dougsaunders8109]

Hard to keep clean as too, save your self a fortune in dry cleaning bills

[@dougsaunders8109]

Gosforth Handyman is that not what the veil is for? Built in mask 😷

[@raystaff386]

@@GosforthHandyman 😂😂

[@stoobydeux]

Were you making it using bridal joints?

[@bobhatchet8082]

Love the comparison between F1 drivers and people watching experienced people doing a job - totally true, seeing safety comments all the time!

[@davehogg63]

Even very experienced craftsmen can make errors with tools & equipment, as I well know from experience. When I was a trainer I constantly reinforced exactly what you have been saying about taking responsibility for safety in the workshop and following good practices recommended by manufacturers. I was an apprentice pre H&S 1974, and have a few scars but fortunately no lasting serious injuries except hearing loss.

[@holden_tld]

jokes on you, i go on racing videos and comment that they shouldn't be driving that fast.

[@TheChipmunk2008]

This is true of many trades/crafts etc. I totally agree with this, having nearly been killed last year (late 40s, been an electrician officially since I was 18, and been messing with 240v mains stuff since i was 10...) I got lucky for 3 decades. And nearly died because i didn't do basic checks, didn't 'read the manual' as it were. Familiarity breeds contempt. That contempt will kill you. eventually. Top notch video.

[@TheChipmunk2008]

(I ASSumed that the ASS before me had wired stuff right lol)

[@TinyHousesAustralia]

Brilliant Advice :) Great to see videos and youtube creators like you out here ...

[@NomadMakes]

Great video! I really like the safety series that you are doing. Keep it up.

[@gav2759]

I doubt many teenagers have got to grips with the complexities of terminating the flow of electrons to their parents illumination apparatus, via a wall based isolation device. You will find though, this skill readily develops in that student hovel, once they fledge. However, don't be shocked when they suffer a relapse on the holidays.

[@norbertboge3391]

I do not know if I am brave enough to take my new Table saw out of the box after watching this and Andy's previous video.

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

My first table saw just arrived, trying to get it to the shed without The Empress seeing!

[@raychambers3646]

A old friend of mine used a table saw to cut a groove in a piece of wood but he did not notice it had slight taper , not using a push stick he managed to cut a deep groove in his thumb very nasty ,luckily there was enough people around to get him to hospital .

[@ptwrmakes1849]

I fully agree with this, health and safety is paramount... And also what I choose to do with my tools is based on my confidence with that tool, for example, on my table saw I ALWAYS have the riving knife installed but I don't have the blade guard installed because a) it's just crap, but also b) a year of using it almost daily has taught me I get a better result with it off.... I also can't use sleds with it on so it went for that reason too, but when my daughter (who is 10) comes in the shop... I have goggles and guards and ear defense just so I can set a better example... She knows I don't use them normally but if I can reinforce that safety message now when she comes to use the tools on her own at an appropriate age without supervision she can make her own informed choice... Hell, even Norm used to say "always read, understand and observe the instructions for your power tools"

[@basher50]

Do not wear gloves of any type, I have the scars and broken nose to prove how dangerous it is. Excellent vid Andy.

[@BOBBY-et9xb]

Excuse my ignorance. I am an amateur woodworker and have seen some woodworkers wear gloves. Why is it dangerous to wear gloves. Thanks

[@basher50]

@@BOBBY-et9xb My fingerless gloves caught on the blade of a tablesaw pulling the back of my hand onto it. I was working outdoors in December so it was a bit chilly, the workpiece smashed me in the face breaking my nose. Luckily I kept all my fingers but I needed plastic surgery to reattatch the tendons and 7 years on I still have restricted movement in a couple of fingers. Better to have cold hands than no hands.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

@@BOBBY-et9xb you never wear gloves when using machines. The gloves can get caught and pull your hand in, its called entrapment. There are occasions when using gloves is best and this is when using off hand grinders. (These are not bench grinders used for sharpening chisels etc, they are the sort hand held for cutting steel etc). You wear gloves with these because of the heat they generate and the guards on them prevent entrapment.

[@rickyjackson4633]

I have watched a few videos now and have a question are you a qualified joiner or a self proclaimed joiner ?

[@GosforthHandyman]

Not sure how that's relevant to this vid, but this has been covered to death - I got in to this late in life and it's almost impossible, and utterly pointless, for me to get 'qualified'. I've made stuff out of wood for about 35 years if that helps.

[@rickyjackson4633]

@@GosforthHandyman Its relevant to almost all your videos, I am a qualified joiner and enjoy watching other peoples take on things and how they come up with with there own way of doing certain things. I have noticed you are a differant not that it's a bad thing as such but certain knowledge gaps that I would find important are missing at times but it makes sense knowing you are self taught, I am not having a go in anyway shape or form in actual fact most of your work seems perfectly acceptable and works for you I find it fascinating to watch.

[@GosforthHandyman]

@@rickyjackson4633 Specifically what knowledge gaps Ricky? Could you give an example? Genuine question. There's more than one way to skin a cat and this is particularly relevant in joinery. Don't confuse 'knowledge gaps' with me doing stuff in a better way. I'm not 'self taught' btw - this has been covered in other vids so I'll not go in to it on here, but I do think most modern day joinery qualifications are utterly pointless for the sort of work I do. This has been confirmed by a LOT of time served joiners and folk who have quit modern apprenticeships since they weren't being taught anything other than how to make cups of tea. I'm happy to admit when I'm wrong though so give me an example and I'll explain it.

[@rickyjackson4633]

@@GosforthHandyman Its the whole theoretical side that's missing, and I know modern ways and older ways differ massively hence why apprenticeships don't always work and why they drop out but that theory is important example you fixed skirting board in one video by simply glueing a block to the wall to level up and yes it does the job it will last a few years but really it needed fixing and to get into the whole theory side would take months but in my mind it matters for the use and application of all timber and composites and there applications and storage also identifying and preventing molds and insect then there is appropriate use of joints and fixing and building regulations this is to point out just a few things there is more I never said you do it wrong everyone is different, Although it does make me wonder how many people are running around saying they are joiners but don't have the knowledge to back the claim. And before anyone jumps on me most of my work is redoing other people's bad jobs, I will make a point though I don't run around calling my self an electrician all be it I can do a varied amount of electrical work and plumbing work but I don't call my self a plumber either, why ? Because I am not certified too and I have not passed any test to show I have an efficient amount of knowledge to safely do the work so why do people feel they can do this with joinery, decorating, Tiling and well any trade that does not require a legal sign off if your not a trained and you don't have the certificate to prove you can do the trade then your a handyman or odd job guy not a tradesman just my opinion I guess but it's got to be annoying to anyone who took the time to learn there trade entirely.

[@GosforthHandyman]

You're picking fault for the sake of it Ricky. The qualifications you're referring to don't exist any more. I think that's a terrible thing but that's a much wider issue - put your efforts in to addressing that because the whole system is broken. I've seen some truly abysmal work by 'qualified' folk (new builds are a prime example) and some stunning work by experienced folk who are way beyond any paper qualification. Ultimately some people care and some people don't. I always have pride in my work and do the best job I can possibly do. This has always been my attitude. In terms of this being "annoying to anyone who took the time to learn there trade entirely". You shouldn't be so worried about other people's qualifications. As an example, I'm 'officially' qualified as a sound engineer but the college course I attended was a complete and utter waste of time. I still got an HND out of it though. I'd never dream of judging other people's abilities based on a piece of paper. In fact the best sound engineers I know of hold no qualification in the subject at all. Why would that bother me? They're good at what they do. Best of luck to them I say. Thankfully most professional joiners don't share your attitude. It's very, very rare I get a message like yours at all and I hope from reading this I can change your view on this. Here's a very typical message, I receive stuff like this every day: "I am a time served joiner. At the time I was indentured, which meant I was bound to the company for the period of my apprenticeship, 3 years at the time, but in the grand scheme of things some of the lads I served with I wouldn't let hang a curtain never mind a door. I have never been asked to produce my qualifications so what was it all for? I agree with your comments, it's all about the job you produce rather than the pieces of paper you have. You're dead right about the quality of work on modern building sites. That's why I like you guys. Keep up the good work with your podcasts and KZbin.". Btw, In the skirting example I screw *through* the block in some places and some are also brad nailed in place. Many qualified joiners have mentioned this is exactly how they would do it. Take care Ricky.

[@diynurse1561]

Thank you for the honesty video. I am new to wood working and I agree it is my responsibility to ensure my safety. I appreciate watching KZbin videos for ideas

[@paulnewell7330]

Well put Andy as usual you’re spot on really enjoy your videos no matter what the subject is but this one is top notch and so clear

[@leelipinski4667]

I have to say that lately, it seems to be cool again to where PPE. (Almost) I think it's because manufacturers have realized that users do care what they look like and have made them almost designer. Such as specs now look well cool. Also the ear defender's that double up as headphones. There just cool. Work ware that have elasticated cuffs. Simple and clever. Also reasonable priced now. But..... One thing most people on here still struggle to do is read the books before powering up their new tool. Me included. Great points to make from your video. Thanks for sharing Andy

[@KirstiePervinDavies]

Love this video and I 100% agree with what you discussed. It’s no joke and woodworking does have risks no matter what you are using or doing. It’s important to know the risks that you are facing when in your own workshop. Nobody else’s responsibility like you say! (I read my manuals, but I will say that’s mainly because I like geeking out reading all about my tools/machines) 😜.. anyway thanks for sharing!👍🏻

[@nathanpowell1500]

I am 95% with you. I think we're all responsible for the things we do in the world. And blaming others if you get hurt is wrong. But the idea that people don't have any responsibility for the content they put out is not entirely accurate IMO. I think you agree with this, or you wouldn't make a video like this warning people to make sure they're being safe. And there is certainly nothing wrong with making a comment to say "This is great, but it is unsafe, you should know what you're doing if you try it". Maybe I am mischaracterizing your argument, and if so then disregard. Thanks Andy. Keep up the great videos.

[@FFVoyager]

As an ex-CDT teacher (back in the 80's when we had an education system that was still reasonably well funded!) I was teaching 13 year olds in using table saws, metal lathes and the like. I did not have a problem in showing them the dangers and letting them get on with it, albeit while keeping an surreptitious eye on them, nor did I hear of anyone having serious problems with it in the profession. They may well have, but it was not considered a big problem. This was, of course, well before the paranoia of health and safety that seems so prevalent today. I don't remember ever having a router in a school workshop - but we did make plotters that we programmed with BBC Micros! Progress? Pah!

[@enabledworkshop]

talking about routers reminds me of an incident I had, where part of the router came loose and was then vibrating around against the router bit, I couldn't get to the power to turn it off because it was vibrating so much, I think I was standing there for a good few seconds wondering how the heck I was going to turn it off, in the end I had to put it down on it's side and quickly unplug it (was out in the garden so ended up on the paving slabs) scariest thing ever. (needless to say I ended up getting a new router)

[@mikewood8988]

A great video, Ranty away, but please also remember complacency and distractions can also be a cause of pain, my Father-in-Law(a boat builder of more than 40 years of experience) lost 3 fingers doing what he considered a 5 minute job, everyone else was quoting an hour.

[@CasualDIY]

Great video mate, there's never enough reminders for us to be safe in our workshops👍

[@sidwills]

Great video, point very well made. I work on a farm, everything from the machinery to the livestock to the environment itself could easily kill me. If I ALWAYS used "best practice" I'd struggle to get anything done, HOWEVER, if I never followed best practice I'd be dead or maimed. Its all about understanding and managing the risk, not blindly doing things.

[@peterestall]

Great video, and people should really pay attention, I've been using power tools for the best part of 40 years, and I'm still scared of them, luckily I have only ever had a couple of minor nicks, the worst injury I ever had was from a hammer :-(

[@Mrfreezeee1]

Welcome to the real world good example Cell phones ,they have surpassed drunk driving in the number of deaths caused by usage ,and the worse part its a kid doesn't have to be of drinking age to use them ,but you dont hear the car mfg making the cars so the cell phone can not be used in it ,many jobs are dangerous ,but when it come to POWER tools ,they can get a way from even experienced users ,i worked as a framer when i was a young man ,and the head carpenter was alway tieing his cover back on his circular saw, and being in such a rush all the time he d set it down and it would shoot across the floor , your only hope was to not be near him when he used it ,tools are tools not toys respect them,great video Mr Mac , keep up the good work

[@sharifshahwan9256]

Totally on board with the general message and sentiment of the video, but not sure I agree with the racing driver analogy. F1 or Rally Drivers are primarily engaging in a competition that is pure spectacle. It could never be confused for being educational or instructional and therefore they have no responsibility to others. It would be unreasonable for someone to assume that and then try to emulate it in a completely different environment (public roads). However, the vast majority of woodworking videos are intended to be on some level, educational. It is not unreasonable for someone who is especially a beginner to watch videos and not even realise that there are risky safety practices being demonstrated before they have a go in their own, very similar environment, especially if the safety issue is subtle. If your aim is in any way to be educational, then you do have a responsibility to those watching. One may also have no idea what level of experience the presenter has. So is their lack of a riving knife because they are experienced and ‘know the risks’, is it because it’s not a huge deal, or because they are completely clueless? I might not even know that a riving knife is a thing if they don’t use one and I buy an old table saw without one. Take that versus someone juggling chainsaws which is very obviously dangerous and shouldn’t need a ‘don’t try this at home notice’. I’m not saying that we have to get into the area of TV chefs washing hands on cooking shows to set a good example, but I think that when someone is experienced and they go off-piste safety wise because they understand the risks and can mitigate them to an extent with their experience, it wouldn’t hurt for them to signpost it, especially if their content could be viewed as educational rather than spectacle. Ishitani Furniture has a card at the top of every video explaining why he wears gloves but that it is dangerous to do so around Woodworking machinery.

[@dwgustaf]

Personally I keep all of my manuals in a place where I can quickly refer back to them if I have any questions. And If i can find digital copies online, I try to download those to my phone or my storage server so that I can access them that way also. Plus it never hurt to reread them every once in a while.

[@ed3010]

Also, the best book that I've found for safety and all manner of things about wood machinery is the CITB Wood Machinist Trainee Manual. It'll go in detail about all the safety aspects of machinery, problems ( such as having machines not quite adjusted appropriately). Everything in the book is spot on because its the certified book for training people for machining wood. It's fairly hard to get hold of but if anyone can, it's well worth it.

[@leestewart1848]

I bought a Clarke table saw off ebay, maybe 8 years back (i'm diy). It was a mess, (Blunt blade, no riving knife, no fence, no zero clearance !) I bought it because I thought I needed one! and I could buy parts for it... it cost £40. I went to pick it up from a unit in NW england in my 2002 ford fiesta, feeling proud I could fit it in. Once the guy helped me load it he took a moment & looked at me and said 'look are you sure you're going to be ok with this...?' I styled it out, saying yea yea... truth is, once I got it home and operated it a few days, I realised I wasn't. I realised it wasn't meant to be operated in a imbecile manner - i.e without the stand.... on gravel.... without a knife...... or hearing protection or glasses.......because if you are buying a saw in that price bracket, you will.... I put it back in the shed shortly after, where it remained for 2yrs - constantly wondering - should I keep it. A few youtube safety videos later it went to the recycling centre. it was a #deathtrap

[@cocas1000]

One of the most important videos ever seen on youtube! An example to follow.

[@SirBenJamin_]

Sorry Andy, going to have to disagree. Most videos on youtube in our space are 'How to' videos. People come to youtube to learn how to do something. If they see someone doing it the dangerous way (although with a lot of experience), they're still going to copy it, usually without even knowing its dangerous. You see it all the time in the comments. If John Heisz does it that way, then why can't I? Your comparison to car sports is not the same - that's not a How To. Secondly, you say read the manual, yet in a previous video you pointed out just how bad the guidelines are (in relation to when to use a push stick).

[@Merllynn1]

If you watch a video on how someone else makes something.That dose not give you the right to blame them for your lack of skill of understanding. Thats your responsibility ! You make the decision on whether or not to proceed with your actions. Not only that but if you go online and buy a table, saw while having no formal training. Something that is easy to do without any company asking you if can even use one. Then proceed to copy someone on youtube or any other media that is not a bonafide training video . That is YOUR responsibility ! You hit the stupid button not them.

[@davec200i]

Good video. Hadn't really though about it from that perspective before

[@mikec2810]

Very well said Andy! Thanks for making this video!

[@earlledoux9824]

Thank You for the safety advice. Good video pal.👍👏

[@rick91443]

Thanks for taking the time to do this video...cheers...rr Normandy, Fra.

[@accessfm]

Well said mate... This is also why we have a compensation culture in the UK and Ireland... No self responsibility any more. ☹️

[@stevebosun7410]

Hi Andy, excellent video. I do hope your viewers heed the advice.

[@dbconstruction7892]

Bravo!! Well done! My best rule of thumb: Be safe and you'll keep your thumb attached to the rest of your body.

[@normanpedersen5454]

One of my fav pieces of advice (In this case, a lathe) : Remember this - the lathe wants to hurt you.

[@johnfrederickson3082]

You are alway great!

[@atherton46]

Not really sure what you wanted to achieve in this video, it comes across as a rant, I can only speak for myself, I regard health and safety as important I used to work in a factory ad have seen blokes without fingers it was drilled into me how it was my responsibility how safely or not i used a tool, experience has taught me to have respect for the machine all the time it is switched on. i watched this to see you demonstrate good technique and tips how best to set up machines. i am not aware of people watching you tube videos and then blaming the you tube video maker when things go wrong, that is nonsense clearly as i have said we are responsible, what you are commenting on is symptomatic of our society where no one takes responsibility for their actions and want to blame some one

[@Woodwork-Learner]

Too true on this Andy. Loved the bit about teenagers especially where you let thousands know that your son doesn't use the loo properly, bet he loves you for that. For those people who do read the manual make a game out of it. Spot the spelling mistakes and confusing language used. Sometimes we beginners need help in translating the manuals into what is actually meant by them as some may as well say "Don't use" As for common sense it does seem to be lacking more these days (old git alert) but are we getting spoon fed or less trial and error leading to less serious accidents.

[@erikvanvoorst8893]

I think there can never be enough safety tips...bring them on I am listening even at a older age. At the end of the day it all comes down to respect the power of tools you are using. You know damn well yourself if you are feeling comfortable with a (power) tool or not.... if not stop using it and start to train yourself at slow speed with loads of testing the (new) tool..and at last I always try not to feel too comfortablytoo selfassured for the obvious reasons.

[@gbwildlifeuk8269]

All good advice, well said. Its a spin off from the USA law suit brigade. "Have a nice day" he said, I didnt so I sued him! The present health and safety was actually imported from USA, originally brought in over there by Nixon. As you say people have been doing things for 40 years and are experts, but h&s treat them like children.

[@traceyprescott8347]

Great vid , really well worded. I hope that it hits home with people. As a fairly experienced person, it even made me think. Regards Paul Prescott.

[@rfrisbee1]

Some KZbinrs make a living selling plans for other people to copy their designs. I think in these cases they do have a responsibility to show safe and appropriate tool use. If a design can't be made safely then they should not be making money selling plans for the less experienced/nimble-fingered/lucky to copy. Anyone who argues against fitting a riving knife to a table saw is probably trying to justify his own unsafe tool use; if you need to take a riving knife completely off a table saw then a table saw is the wrong tool to use! I don't think the analogy with car racing is particularly useful because in motor sport a person is pushing his or her and the machine's abilities to (and frequently beyond) the limit - not something anyone should be doing in a workshop!

[@davep5829]

You are right, of course, but I think you've put me off woodworking now, for life!

[@fluffymittens24]

I still have check myself. Changing the blade in your table saw, unplug the machine, why wouldn't you? Or doing some figuring or measuring on table with the blade up, crank it down u til your ready to make more cuts. Don't second guess yourself. Cheers

[@trevhaydon5090]

Kudos Andy, Well said. Jacks me off too when people can not keep their nose out of other peoples business. If you can't say anything nice, then do not say anything at all. All the best Andy, Keep up the great work. All the best from North London UK

[@GosforthHandyman]

Cheers Trev! 👍👊

[@KeenAesthetic1]

Buzzkill buzzkill buzzkill. Fantastic points though. Thanks for making this.

[@jan-reiniervoute6701]

Agree fully, Andy. Well said and yes, it needed to be said. A safety tip from an old dog to a newby on youtube can be a good thing but all the safety trolling takes the joy and learning effect out of the comments.

[@GaryMcKinnonUFO]

Good rant, i agree. It's like the film Wall-E, where we'er all massively overweight and being entertained all the time. Rename the channel to The Philosophical Handyman ;+}

[@k.hussain360]

Good video mate. Totally agree with what you said.

[@varilight]

Thanks for this!