Got P7100 Cummins? Here's the RIGHT Way to Set Timing...but It May SURPRISE You!

[@jimkillen1065]

Glad you did this video. I bought the snap on kit a long time ago . I remember hearing o you will melt your pistons ect crap . I used the drop valve method . I used a piece of tig wire to show where TDC was on harmonic balancer once I found it . I also have a 160 pump and I used the cpl number I think that's what it's called to figure out how many mil meters of lift on pump . I set it to 18 deg . That tool is pretty cool deal you made great idea lol . I been at 18 deg for over 20 years on that engine. I had no clue how to do this procedure but I was damn tired of 16 miles to gallon so I got it figured out . It took me a few tries to get what I wanted. I did not have that cool tool lol . The change was what a different lol . Just like I thought it would . No melted piston crap either. Thanks for your videos

[@white24valve]

Thank you Rob for the very awesome informative videos!!

[@CUTTERUPROB]

thanks ! please share the video's to help more people out

[@pipww]

What a great way of presenting this, Awesome stuff. Thank you .

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Glad it was helpful!

[@white24valve]

Got a new subscriber!! From South East Kansas!!

[@CUTTERUPROB]

right on ! thanks for watching,

[@jerrynaslund3368]

I have a 2002 4bt with p pump. It say 15 degr timing on engine. Going to do gov spring kit, fuel plate and raise boost some. What timing do you recomend ?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

16-17 most engines are happy there as long as you fueling isn’t to heavy

[@2eyedjack433]

Hello, love your vids full of great information on the greatest engine! I have a question, I bought a parts truck im going to use the the intercooler and related parts plus the turbo hx35. The engine blue all the oil out the. Lock up the engine. I want to use the transmission too. How do I get it off if I can't rotate the engine to access the converter bolts?.. thanks in advance.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

as I said in the other comment be careful with the turbo. On the trans issue just leave the convertor on till you get it out. Make sure you unbolt the engine mounts from the block and frame so you can pull the engine straight out far enough with the convertor still on.

[@jimrovida5595]

Thank you your videos they are great Rob ,I just wanted to comment on the lock washer on the pump I had one break on me a while back and I wished I had put a rag or something in there I did have to pull the whole front cover to get it out and to make matters worse it was in a diesel pusher motorhome after cooler radiator rear bumper and what challenge that was but thanks for the advice you’re doing great man keep them coming

[@CUTTERUPROB]

thanks for watching and sharing

[@1968moke]

Thanks for the video. Did you ever put the timing kits together?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Some of the part aren’t available right now. So working on another supplier

[@doctordiesel5467]

When you offering the pump tool kits

[@CUTTERUPROB]

You be in the next couple months

[@jimforsyth2.]

Can you give a link to that brake clean sprayer you used

[@CUTTERUPROB]

here is the two i use amzn.to/41B82ST amzn.to/44VnhJ9

[@chandlerlofton6536]

So im in the process of rebuilding my junk yard 5.9. I have the 215 p pump that I would like to have rebuilt. Do I add all the mods to the pump and then send it off, or get it restored first then add the mods I want. AFC live ect.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Send it to Seth @ Farrell diesel service and just tell him what you want. Best way to do it. Tell him I sent you

[@chandlerlofton6536]

@@CUTTERUPROB thanks man! I’ll do it

[@gwoc1104]

I just got a 215hp pump from someone who bought it from someone else but doesn’t know timing it has on it. Will this work to find out what timing the pump has?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

If your doing it with a gauge the internal timing set doesn’t matter. If the pump has not been maxed and balanced it likely still stock

[@gwoc1104]

@@CUTTERUPROB he just said it was rebuilt but was not sure. I wanted to time it to 22 degrees, I think stock timing is 13.5 but I don’t know if it’s been maxed out lol

[@CUTTERUPROB]

@@gwoc1104 ya the stock timing would have been 13.5 , 18-22 is a good starting range

[@gwoc1104]

@@CUTTERUPROB awesome! Thanks for your help. Love the channel!

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Thanks. Please share help me grow the channel

[@stephenfranks3973]

I had my timing pin and the holder off the back of the timing case. Any idea how much slop there would be from TDC ? Cause it definitely moves around I don't know where I should bolt it down lol

[@kevinhoffman5318]

any tips for fixing/ retapping the threads on the pump shaft?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Thread file is about all you can do

[@slikrik00]

Did you ever get the parts needed for a timing kit?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

I have not sorry

[@gjgp225]

When your at base circle, then rotate Ccw until indicator stops spinning, you "raise" the dual indicator. Do you keep the small dial at 1, or 0 it out with the large guage at 0 too? Having a tough time with this and a no start situation after changing the tappet cover gasket.

[@kalebstout7673]

Man thank you so much! This answered my comment on your other video

[@Thedave2224]

hey rob my pump is at 13.5 degrees right now and im kinda setting it up to be a hot rod truck should i go to 20 degrees?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

really has to do with the setup, if your running stock injectors and turbo 17 is a good spot. if you have added more air and fuel the hold back on timing with be your headgasket and bolts. let me know the setup i have help you out

[@Thedave2224]

@@CUTTERUPROB well i have the afc mods all done 4k governer springs. An s300sx3 turbo .025 dvs and 5x14 injectors and the engine is studded

[@scottrosenburg4243]

You say 272 thou for 18 degrees roughly my timing kit is in mm so what would that be in thou ?? I can't figure a for sure way to convert it myself ?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Timing will depend on what pump you have. What pump do you have ?

[@scottrosenburg4243]

P pump 180 hp stock engine but have the fuel plate modified, afc turned up and I believe a bd deisel turbo that's slightly larger than stock

[@scottrosenburg4243]

I have the blue point sp500 injectin timing kit and the dial is in mm

[@scottrosenburg4243]

Thanks for your help but I did figure it out for myself and found a lift to degree conversion chart

[@kennethryan8112]

I got so frustrated finding tdc on the truck last time that i just painted the harmonic balancer where tdc is at where it lines up with the speed sensor

[@peterhatch1583]

Is it worth doing the part pump conversion thks

[@CUTTERUPROB]

Depends on what you want to do with it

[@davidmowat4056]

Thanks for the great videos!

[@CUTTERUPROB]

My pleasure!

[@burkey426]

I just had my pump rebuilt and the pin was reset at 18*, should I worry about my head gasket popping? I have a stealth 64 turbo, ddp economy injectors, steed speed exhaust manifold, with a 4” exhaust and all stock internals. Please let me know, I can send you the specs on the pump if you’d like.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

If everything is in good shape. I would run it Some of it is how you drive as well if you run the truck hard it’s a better chance of blown

[@delta3garcia]

So you just pulled the gear off cleaned it and put it back on in no particular way? Does it has marks to line up or that doesn’t matter?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

On the ppump there is no marks to line you. And cleaner the better

[@delta3garcia]

@@CUTTERUPROB I’m wanting to get the adjustable gear but I’m still not sure about this procedure. Pulling the TDC pin and when to leave it in and pinning the PPump and when do I take the pin out?

[@jackbadossian160]

What is the measurement of lift from pump vs degree of advanced?

[@jackbadossian160]

Also what timing is recommended? 5.9 p pump, full delivery valve, 4000k spring, 5 x .014, 362 over 475. 5600, 4.56 gears 40's. Looking for a good tow and fun truck. Hopefully not more than 50 psi. Looking for at least 40... I was told 16*. I have no idea what the pump is set at. That needs to be checked.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

it depends on the pump you have if you google p7100 timing chart it will give you a list. timing i would start 17-18 if it was mine. do you know the pop pressure on the injectors

[@zacmccrae]

I keep having issues with my pump gear slipping.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

If there is any spots or fun marks on the shaft or gear it will give you issues. That’s why I go to adjustable timing gears

[@dylanscooters52]

The filler after the DV spring is called the spring hat

[@CUTTERUPROB]

I had to go get a explode view after that for the names. To do many parts to remember there names. Thanks for the comment 😎

[@matui6983]

Its actually called the volume reducing peg.

[@erneumann3136]

Good video.

[@6literfuelaholic655]

Why would you want to retard your timing? And where can i get one of your timing kits for the p7100?

[@CUTTERUPROB]

For the most people they just set the timing and leave it. But I play with stuff all the time so. I advance and retard it from where it is at the time. I should have some tools up on the website sooner the later here

[@PopsHowTo]

I prefer the ve pump just from a simplicity stand point. Also they are cheaper…. A lot cheaper.. But man those p pumps dump the fuel!

[@vendetta1306]

Advanced timing many times to 16.5/18, new 90hp injectors, 30psi at the pump, torktek ofv, new injector return lines, new fuel filter, no turbo shaft play, boost diaphragm intact, no boost leaks. I'm out of ideas and am about to sell my 96.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

What’s the issue with the truck

[@vendetta1306]

@@CUTTERUPROB Smokes and pops from 1-2k then when the turbo lights it's fine.

[@CUTTERUPROB]

If you free rev it does it do it ? What pump ? What delivery valves ?

[@vendetta1306]

@@CUTTERUPROB Sent the pump away to get rebuilt since the third plunger was sticking. They installed 4K Governor Springs and a number 10 fuel plate. It will not rev properly until I get to 2,000 RPM, even then I have to hold the pedal down until it gets to 2000 for the Turbo to light. I've checked everywhere for air leaks, installed new injectors, and changed the fuel overflow valve. The pump is getting 30 PSI so I'm running out of options. I always timed the engine using powerdrivendiesel's magnetic method. That should be close enough in my opinion?

[@vendetta1306]

@@CUTTERUPROB 96 5 speed. 215hp p pump