Power Driven Diesel Timing Kit Instructions

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7 жыл бұрын

Power Driven Diesel timing kit use and how-to instructional video. We walk you through how to time your P-Pumped diesel engine.
If you have questions about the timing kit, give us a call at (435) 962-9555.
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@woodyouderkirk694
@woodyouderkirk694 2 жыл бұрын
EXCELLENT . This is the type of video you hope to find on the internet . Not some guy working in his driveway doing it for the first time . This one is getting saved !!!
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it!
@gbfan100
@gbfan100 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, It explains it perfectly!
@buckskinlady
@buckskinlady Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the how to video and the kit! I did things a little different when pulling the gear off. I roughly lined up the timing arm in the injection pump and removed the nut and washer on the pump gear. Lined up the injection pump pin and pinned the pump with the injection pump gear still pressed on. Then pulled off the gear to avoid the risk of breaking off the injection pump pin 👍.
@bloodcamarosexmagik4223
@bloodcamarosexmagik4223 3 жыл бұрын
This video is friggin' gold. Thank you
@tomm6337
@tomm6337 6 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation. This really helped me understand the timing process with both the engine and p7100!
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@jamesoncade1229 2 жыл бұрын
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@jamesoncade1229
@jamesoncade1229 2 жыл бұрын
@Stephen Benton No problem :D
@maxbollinger6158
@maxbollinger6158 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, such a clear and understandable video.
@juancarlosdelrio486
@juancarlosdelrio486 6 жыл бұрын
Best description iv seen yet
@sorehair7075
@sorehair7075 3 жыл бұрын
ive been looking for this and finally found it
@allenkeith1846
@allenkeith1846 4 жыл бұрын
Can you make another video with the adjustable pump gear thanks ..you all have been a big help for me
@willobrien3413
@willobrien3413 7 жыл бұрын
awesome video . and a super easy way to time an engine, plus I really liked seeing my engine and pump , lol, love the billet cam pin just wish you used the billet pump pin ! , but seeing the stock one takes any confusion out of the equation for any noobs watching,
@joseibarra6800
@joseibarra6800 6 жыл бұрын
Vuen video y vien explicado amigo cordiales saludos des de las Vegas
@anthonyshanklin8910
@anthonyshanklin8910 5 жыл бұрын
I love these
@JohnSmith-qj4cf
@JohnSmith-qj4cf 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@dsadzaglishvili
@dsadzaglishvili 2 ай бұрын
Nice plate! Ordered
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 2 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@paultavres9830
@paultavres9830 5 жыл бұрын
I always loosen the pump gear nut but dont remove it till the gear is popped loose If you have your front cover off and remove the pump gear nut then put the puller on the gear when it pops loose your gear will end up on the floor 27year mid range factory trained cummins tec
@johnboy5235
@johnboy5235 3 жыл бұрын
🤦🏼‍♂️I learned to keep a hand on it after the first fail
@jdirt1982
@jdirt1982 5 жыл бұрын
I don't always do my timing....... But when I do I use a paper plate and a jizz rag....... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@IWORKUWATCH
@IWORKUWATCH 2 жыл бұрын
Guys I am new to the 12v but videos like this help me with my build #eddiepellegrin
@clancytaylor7714
@clancytaylor7714 5 жыл бұрын
Well this is waaay easier than using the dial indicator method.
@BrownParticles
@BrownParticles 7 жыл бұрын
Also, is that a nordlock washer? How's that working out?
@MrCclardy06
@MrCclardy06 6 жыл бұрын
What is the best timing for a 4BT? Doing a compound setup with bigger injectors.. etc..
@dangerousfreedom4965
@dangerousfreedom4965 6 жыл бұрын
What kind of adjustable gear do you use?
@ralph9987
@ralph9987 Ай бұрын
Very well done Why did you change the timing, what else do you need to change and what does it do to power and fuel consumption?
@lukeirmer5316
@lukeirmer5316 5 жыл бұрын
So does this work with unknown timing etc? Ppump swap... pin tdc the motor, pin the pump cam without the gear then install the gear at what ever advanced timing..?.. or is there more to it since the pump would be zeroed as well as the motor rather than say factory 12.5 or 14 degree
@thankfullife7968
@thankfullife7968 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video guys Thank you. Question though. One we check pump/pin time, how do we ensure both time and to not shear plastic pin off once we start to loosen pump gear nut. Conversely if we confirm pin/pump time but then pull plastic pin so not to shear it off then loosen gear nut won’t the pump slightly rotate throwing everything outa time??
@androidmachineworks4031
@androidmachineworks4031 4 жыл бұрын
Seems like it would be better to loosen the nut BEFORE putting the tool into the pump. That way, you don't accidentally turn the motor/pump while trying to get it loose (and shear off the pin in the pump.)
@Hitman-ds1ei
@Hitman-ds1ei 2 жыл бұрын
Have you ever checked this compared to spill timing method
@MarioAllDrunkAboutIt
@MarioAllDrunkAboutIt 5 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your video for a while. I will be shopping from your site first chance I get. I was wondering if you all have any products for 01-02 P Pump Conversions? And if so, may you please make a video on the conversion? Thanks
@deanpeterson7972
@deanpeterson7972 4 жыл бұрын
​@@pddofficial can i get the link for the timing kit? o also have an 01 24v that i and converting to p7100 but am having a hell of a time figuring out correct timing... i had the pump timed at 18 degrees from our local injection shop. any help would be greatly appreciated
@robert_wallace4107
@robert_wallace4107 2 жыл бұрын
@@deanpeterson7972 I've got a 01 24v with a p pump as well. What timing did you end up going with?
@cherokeeoutlaw5077
@cherokeeoutlaw5077 5 жыл бұрын
What would you charge to take a 6-4 out of a Ford Powerstroke they put in a Cummings Diesel turn key ready to go
@dixiemae5042
@dixiemae5042 2 жыл бұрын
Yes 👊🏻💪🏻
@adrianspencer7743
@adrianspencer7743 2 жыл бұрын
How accurate is this compared to a dial indicator?
@jkuri89
@jkuri89 4 жыл бұрын
Can 215hp pumps at 13.5 stock timing benefit from 18° I know all pumps are times different from factory. Can some p7100 pump perform better than others with same "18°" let's say a 160hp vs 180 or 215? Thank you.
@ratherbefishing4225
@ratherbefishing4225 2 жыл бұрын
I tried torquing the 24mm plug to 50 ft lbs… did not end well. Go easy on that one
@0dbm
@0dbm 3 жыл бұрын
Did you remove your TDC pin before removed your 8 degrees
@dylanarmitage356
@dylanarmitage356 Жыл бұрын
This only works if you know where the timings at correct? And if so how do you find where it’s at
@codzzilla1
@codzzilla1 4 жыл бұрын
What if your pump has jumped timing? Would you pin the pump first, pull the gear and then find TDC on the motor?
@darrenbrowell1713
@darrenbrowell1713 4 жыл бұрын
pin time the pump first then pull the gear off. this makes it easier to turn the pump where it is supposed to be. then when you pull the gear off and turn the engine you can find tdc and the pump gear is of so it won't move.
@CurtisDrew1
@CurtisDrew1 Жыл бұрын
So if you set your degree ring magnet on the pulley as soon as you get the TDC Plunger in and set the wire indicator pointing to zero. Once you pull the TDC cam pin and rotate your engine to find the pumps marker you will be able to see and know your pump is set at 14 degrees or if it's been changed. Correct? (I think my engines previous owner monkeyed with the timing!) Then it will just be a matter of popping off the timing gear and rotating the engine to the degrees you want to total advance it and will not have any question as to what it's set at, if I understand this correctly. No adding or guesssing as I see it. You set this one to 22 degrrees advanced, but I thought I was told that for my 400 HP settings I only needed 18 degrees. So I'll be doing some research before I torque it all back down. FYI the pressure bvalves and govenor springs were quite the challenge to do standing on my head using mirrors. Hence me switching to simple back up cameras and a monitor. Been a few years since I degreed out my Hot Rod Gas Engines cams, and just making sure I have the total comcept in my head. Cuz, I'm about to do mine in my front engine RV and it's going to be a standing on my head job. My plan is to set up small 4 inch back up monitor & camera, p;us a bore camera for the P Pump and do it all by feel and watching the monitors. Should be interesting!!!!!
@Parents_of_Twins
@Parents_of_Twins 6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I suppose if the killer dowel hasn't been taken care of yet, a person could change their time while also taking care of that issue. By the way what years was that an issue?
@thankfullife7968
@thankfullife7968 5 жыл бұрын
Parent of Twins. Pretty sure the 94-98.5 2nd gens were the only culprits. Man get it done before it’s too late!!!
@92powerdiesel61
@92powerdiesel61 5 жыл бұрын
@@thankfullife7968 also the 89-93... everyone forgets about a 1st gen.
@lacquerhead6938
@lacquerhead6938 2 жыл бұрын
My 98 12 valve had the dowel pin fall out before I bought it around 190k and my 97 was still good with around 190k. I think the guy who sold me the 98 tried turning up the fuel but didn't know what he was doing and that might be why the dowel fell out. I drove it straight home after buying it and immediately started restoring the entire engine. My 97 was a lot more clean than my 98 as well. I've been curious if they were built in different factories.
@BrownParticles
@BrownParticles 7 жыл бұрын
If everything is torqued down properly, when you go to pull the injection pump gear, do you leave the plastic tool in the pump?
@truckcampertraveler7369
@truckcampertraveler7369 5 жыл бұрын
This is explained in the video
@TNsbeII
@TNsbeII Жыл бұрын
When you find TDC should the pin in the pump be visible or will you have to rewind the engine to the correct degree to find the pin?
@kamdyn24v
@kamdyn24v Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure u go clockwise with it till u find the pin in the pump
@forrestteague4187
@forrestteague4187 5 жыл бұрын
What are you turning on the engine to make it spin when setting the time. Like what nut or gear or what?
@vendetta1306
@vendetta1306 4 жыл бұрын
Usually crank it via the alternator
@kmunroe9100
@kmunroe9100 3 жыл бұрын
so you can crack the nut loose on the pump with the pin in place.. then after timing only partly tighten with the pin in place?.. i don'y want to break my pin
@fernandopieri
@fernandopieri 4 жыл бұрын
Hello, in my case my truck injection time is 12.3 degrees. How many degrees will I have to advance. I bought a tool from you and I look forward to using it. Thanks
@jkuri89
@jkuri89 4 жыл бұрын
@@pddofficial is the factory timing the same for all let's say 215hp pumps. My truck doesn't have the data plate and some say factory timing on a 215hp is 13.5 some say 15.5 did some searching but can't find a solid answer. Would 18° be good for a 215 pump? AFC live and supporting modifications, 4k gsk, 60lb over valve springs, 191 delivery valves, ( runs very clean ) 5 speed 4.10 rear end. 9,000 pound service truck, daily driver with a little get up and go. I don't hot rod the truck, but do enjoy a smile here and there. Also tow 10k pounds on occasion. Thank you in advance.
@carlcarlandcarl
@carlcarlandcarl 10 ай бұрын
would it be a bad idea to put thin bendable sheet of steel just inside the case to catch any slag and put a small tack weld on the pump gear for that little bit added piece of mind?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 10 ай бұрын
would work just fine.
@coyne250
@coyne250 6 жыл бұрын
just wondering if this timing kit you sell will work for me when i Ppump swap my 24V? and if so where do you get the top dead center pin that located on the back side of the timing housing?
@coyne250
@coyne250 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info ill be buying that tool and the push pin didn't come with the gearcase. So where could i buy one?
@coyne250
@coyne250 6 жыл бұрын
Ok cool I'll google that and see what I come up with!!
@darwinbenitez9694
@darwinbenitez9694 5 жыл бұрын
Good question!!
@fishiniseasy
@fishiniseasy Жыл бұрын
Do you have a video for the VE pump Cummins? I am having some troubles
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
No sorry we do not.
@isaknils1220
@isaknils1220 4 жыл бұрын
Hello. Why do you need to adjust the timing? What is it good for? :)
@97F350Cummins
@97F350Cummins Жыл бұрын
When you advance the pump timing you increase the high rpm horsepower. Sometimes you get a little better mpg. Up to a point, don’t go to far. A few degrees maxes a big difference.
@cuda5194
@cuda5194 2 жыл бұрын
So is 22 degrees the go to number
@patrickthompson2471
@patrickthompson2471 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always spill port timed
@dieselfueled_
@dieselfueled_ 6 жыл бұрын
Nordlock?
@kalebstout7673
@kalebstout7673 4 ай бұрын
Do you have an install video for the adjustable timing gear and how do you verify timing
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 4 ай бұрын
No you do not need the timing adjustable gear and easy way to verify timing is to look up spill port timing. that will get you what the timing of an unknown pump is.
@kalebstout7673
@kalebstout7673 4 ай бұрын
@@pddofficial I already purchased the adjustable timing gear and was curious if you have an install video for the part and setting timing with the adjustable gear
@lilquickfeetpanna
@lilquickfeetpanna 5 жыл бұрын
What would be the best timing for towing? Or to get the best fuel economy?
@androidmachineworks4031
@androidmachineworks4031 4 жыл бұрын
I think I remember reading that around 15.5 gives a little better fuel economy without making it hard to start.
@Deezle_Gaming
@Deezle_Gaming 3 жыл бұрын
My only issue is spraying solvent into the crank case. Am I worrying too much?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 3 жыл бұрын
no we always do a oil change afterwards
@williamdriedger6448
@williamdriedger6448 Жыл бұрын
Does it only work for the 12 valve or does it work to set the timing on a 24 valve ppump
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
Any p7100 motor.
@gwgillman1
@gwgillman1 Жыл бұрын
Just bought your degree wheel,is coming in the mail,my 96 Dodge has close to 300k on it,just bought back from my son,mine original,,Beautiful Ol Gal,so I can safely go 8 degrees ,my Son had bought the AFC unit,I installed it already,just looking to gain a few ponies,runs Excellent,what would you suggest after timing,probably new injectors Im sure,thanks
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
Yes depending on your power goal a new set of injectors would be a good option.
@gwgillman1
@gwgillman1 Жыл бұрын
So 20 degrees is a good place,heard that could make a hard start,right now it fires Nice,hit the key and she lights off,
@fbiagent9784
@fbiagent9784 2 жыл бұрын
What if you don’t know your timing before you start?
@JohnDoe-du6yi
@JohnDoe-du6yi 4 жыл бұрын
How much power increase can be expected from this? Will it make cold starts harder?
@jonathonlesko3554
@jonathonlesko3554 4 жыл бұрын
Timing does make starts a little harder, but ultimately if you’re running more fuel then timing is a good idea to clean up smoke
@doserdiesel
@doserdiesel Жыл бұрын
How can you tell by using this wheel if the timing has already been changed on the engine?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
you would have to use the spill port method or a dial indicator
@vendetta1306
@vendetta1306 2 жыл бұрын
What I can't understand is why I have set the timing on my truck about 20 times and it still acts like the timing slips or is not set properly. I'm running out of ideas
@tomflorek3727
@tomflorek3727 5 жыл бұрын
So the timing was at 14 deg stock. You added 8 deg so you took it 22 deg. Isn’t the best between 16-18 deg?
@dodgeman4654
@dodgeman4654 4 жыл бұрын
PowerDrivenDiesel so is 6° of timing on a overhauled but stock 12 valve too much?
@reebarr8832
@reebarr8832 9 ай бұрын
In order to time the P-Pump the vacuum pump needs to be removed?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 9 ай бұрын
No the vacuum pump can stay in place.
@reebarr8832
@reebarr8832 9 ай бұрын
@@pddofficial Thanks
@johnarden8852
@johnarden8852 Жыл бұрын
How is your buddy rotating the motor?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
With a barring tool
@thefluffychub5604
@thefluffychub5604 Жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused. You pinned the engine to top dead center. How did you keep turning the pump to center to pin it with the engine pinned?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
They should line up together when the motor is pinned otherwise you have to double nut the pump and spin it that way
@thefluffychub5604
@thefluffychub5604 Жыл бұрын
@@pddofficialok thank you and thank you for the reply. Next question.. I installed ypur 4k springs .. tgeres apparently no fuel plate in this thing ( prior owners doings) and it still won't rev past 2200 rpm.. do I need to keep the fuel solenoid off??? Or on?? Vany help is greatly appreciated
@jonreed6844
@jonreed6844 6 жыл бұрын
Why is the timing set at 22 degrees. As I have noticed, most people don't go past 18. what are the advantages or disadvantages if I set mine at 22, or 18, or 16 or what ever?
@jonreed6844
@jonreed6844 6 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! Thank you so much. I will be purchasing the timing magnet soon.
@pablomarquez4431
@pablomarquez4431 3 жыл бұрын
Sry for the noob question but what are the Benefits of retarding it 8 degrees more? Do you gain hp? Or faster acceleration? Does it run rough at idle or smoother?
@nou8257
@nou8257 3 жыл бұрын
retarding makes it fire fuel quicker to the cylinder therefore it can gain power from what i remember
@jessevella7616
@jessevella7616 2 жыл бұрын
By retarding the engine like this you’re not changing the valve train timing but you are actually advancing the fuel timing which puts fuel into the cylinders earlier creating a better chance for the fuel to burn completely before going out the exhaust, increases power but will increase cylinder pressure/temps and can cause hard starting when cold
@xade7863
@xade7863 2 жыл бұрын
@@jessevella7616 I’ve had advancing the timing help starting not doing it this way though we tilted pump and it was on another pump
@corpsmind5920
@corpsmind5920 5 ай бұрын
Now how do you do this with a VE?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 5 ай бұрын
On a VE pump you can adjust the pump by loosening the bolts taking a ratchet strap and getting it as close to the head as you can witch typically nets you 3* advance other wise you are taking the gear case cover off and jumping a tooth on the gears.
@kylegohrmann1828
@kylegohrmann1828 7 жыл бұрын
What if it's not at factory timing?? How do u adjust it then
@TheRustiestShackleford
@TheRustiestShackleford 7 жыл бұрын
Pin the motor at TDC and pin the pump so you know that everything is at zero, just like he did in the video.
@MWARFARETHREE
@MWARFARETHREE 6 жыл бұрын
Okay so if I tdc the pump and engine separate I am at 0° timing or stock timing?
@keiferjanz3197
@keiferjanz3197 6 жыл бұрын
Blake Taylor stock timing. The pump timing lock pin is set to the spec on the cover unless the pump was ever off and rebuilt and requested that the static timing lock be moved to a new pin timing.
@keiferjanz3197
@keiferjanz3197 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly though using the dial indicator method I feel is better in the long run.
@skylerhouston
@skylerhouston 6 жыл бұрын
agreed! or how do you find where the timing is set to begin with if it has been fooled with?
@johnbilodeau2044
@johnbilodeau2044 Жыл бұрын
Where to acquire the magnetic degree wheel
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
powerdrivendiesel.com/product/magnetic-degree-wheel/
@sd_hemi6636
@sd_hemi6636 2 жыл бұрын
Is this pretty much the same for a first gen?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 2 жыл бұрын
it is not the VE pump have a key way so you have to skip a tooth on them
@sd_hemi6636
@sd_hemi6636 2 жыл бұрын
@@pddofficial you should make a video on this
@daviderickson6933
@daviderickson6933 Жыл бұрын
Bro I think even this second so called dirty cheep way should be decently accurate I don’t see why not
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
We agree do it all the time!
@richardwelkiv8325
@richardwelkiv8325 5 жыл бұрын
In your video you show a piece of wire as a marker for the timing . But on your website your kit does not show the wire . Is this something you have to make yourself ??
@nou8257
@nou8257 3 жыл бұрын
He said in the vid its just a piece of wire he put around the 10mm bolt for reference
@jerrysadventures4913
@jerrysadventures4913 Жыл бұрын
Why 22 deg?
@pddofficial
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
Timing will depend on where you live to what kind of power you are after?
@timothydean
@timothydean 3 жыл бұрын
Oil fill tube ?? What
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a 12v Cummins or p-pumped 24v? All the factory pickup truck 1994 thru 1998 12v Cummins have an oil fill/oil cap and tube assembly. This whole assembly can be removed to gain access to the injection pump gear/nut.
@omarcarbajal1813
@omarcarbajal1813 3 ай бұрын
how much should i retard my engine i bought the 600 hp kit from yall
@pddofficial
@pddofficial 3 ай бұрын
Depending on what your factory timing is 6-4*
@jeffreyskeels2672
@jeffreyskeels2672 5 жыл бұрын
1
@emeraldstevens8922
@emeraldstevens8922 3 жыл бұрын
Sure it's not 18 ft/lbs lol
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