EXCELLENT . This is the type of video you hope to find on the internet . Not some guy working in his driveway doing it for the first time . This one is getting saved !!!
@pddofficial2 жыл бұрын
Glad you found it!
@buckskinlady Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the how to video and the kit! I did things a little different when pulling the gear off. I roughly lined up the timing arm in the injection pump and removed the nut and washer on the pump gear. Lined up the injection pump pin and pinned the pump with the injection pump gear still pressed on. Then pulled off the gear to avoid the risk of breaking off the injection pump pin 👍.
@themechanicman38655 ай бұрын
I am not new to mechanics but I'm learning as I go on these diesels basically I'm trying to find a very simple way to do this this is not a bad way is the way that he is showing it here in this video so basically what you're saying is you got that little tiny pin or arm whatever you want to call it that's in the pump that has the plastic thing you got that at top dead center first then you jumped up on loosen the bolts on the timing gear for the pee pump itself and then wow that little pin is locked in place in the pee pump and now you have the gear sprocket loose you turn the engine to where it was top dead center and push the pin in the little plastic pin in steel whatever it's made out of right besides the pump now you pull the gear off everything's locked in place pull your pump off then put your new pump on and when you put the new pump on does it already come timed to the original spec of the side of the engine the data plate or do you put the new pump buy hand separate from the engine cuz the engines already locked at top dead center and you just line it up just how the one you removed was and the same identical positionand then your timing set without using no type of degree wheels or anything forgive me if I am speaking wrong on this but I think that's the way that it goes there's got to be a way to do this just like changing anything else without even using any of this stuff if you just want to go back to factory
@tomm63376 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation. This really helped me understand the timing process with both the engine and p7100!
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@jamesoncade12293 жыл бұрын
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@CustomJeep2 ай бұрын
Wow. Thats way better than the dial indicator method. I’m getting one of those
@allenkeith18464 жыл бұрын
Can you make another video with the adjustable pump gear thanks ..you all have been a big help for me
@paultavres98306 жыл бұрын
I always loosen the pump gear nut but dont remove it till the gear is popped loose If you have your front cover off and remove the pump gear nut then put the puller on the gear when it pops loose your gear will end up on the floor 27year mid range factory trained cummins tec
@johnboy52353 жыл бұрын
🤦🏼♂️I learned to keep a hand on it after the first fail
@gbfan1007 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, It explains it perfectly!
@ralph99877 ай бұрын
Very well done Why did you change the timing, what else do you need to change and what does it do to power and fuel consumption?
@carlcarlandcarl Жыл бұрын
would it be a bad idea to put thin bendable sheet of steel just inside the case to catch any slag and put a small tack weld on the pump gear for that little bit added piece of mind?
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
would work just fine.
@Hitman-ds1ei3 жыл бұрын
Have you ever checked this compared to spill timing method
@codzzilla15 жыл бұрын
What if your pump has jumped timing? Would you pin the pump first, pull the gear and then find TDC on the motor?
@darrenbrowell17135 жыл бұрын
pin time the pump first then pull the gear off. this makes it easier to turn the pump where it is supposed to be. then when you pull the gear off and turn the engine you can find tdc and the pump gear is of so it won't move.
@juancarlosdelrio4866 жыл бұрын
Best description iv seen yet
@kalebstout767310 ай бұрын
Do you have an install video for the adjustable timing gear and how do you verify timing
@pddofficial10 ай бұрын
No you do not need the timing adjustable gear and easy way to verify timing is to look up spill port timing. that will get you what the timing of an unknown pump is.
@kalebstout767310 ай бұрын
@@pddofficial I already purchased the adjustable timing gear and was curious if you have an install video for the part and setting timing with the adjustable gear
@dylanarmitage3562 жыл бұрын
This only works if you know where the timings at correct? And if so how do you find where it’s at
@TNsbeII2 жыл бұрын
When you find TDC should the pin in the pump be visible or will you have to rewind the engine to the correct degree to find the pin?
@kamdyn24v Жыл бұрын
Pretty sure u go clockwise with it till u find the pin in the pump
@gwgillman12 жыл бұрын
Just bought your degree wheel,is coming in the mail,my 96 Dodge has close to 300k on it,just bought back from my son,mine original,,Beautiful Ol Gal,so I can safely go 8 degrees ,my Son had bought the AFC unit,I installed it already,just looking to gain a few ponies,runs Excellent,what would you suggest after timing,probably new injectors Im sure,thanks
@pddofficial2 жыл бұрын
Yes depending on your power goal a new set of injectors would be a good option.
@gwgillman12 жыл бұрын
So 20 degrees is a good place,heard that could make a hard start,right now it fires Nice,hit the key and she lights off,
@fishiniseasy2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a video for the VE pump Cummins? I am having some troubles
@pddofficial2 жыл бұрын
No sorry we do not.
@dangerousfreedom49656 жыл бұрын
What kind of adjustable gear do you use?
@thankfullife79686 жыл бұрын
Excellent Video guys Thank you. Question though. One we check pump/pin time, how do we ensure both time and to not shear plastic pin off once we start to loosen pump gear nut. Conversely if we confirm pin/pump time but then pull plastic pin so not to shear it off then loosen gear nut won’t the pump slightly rotate throwing everything outa time??
@androidmachineworks40314 жыл бұрын
Seems like it would be better to loosen the nut BEFORE putting the tool into the pump. That way, you don't accidentally turn the motor/pump while trying to get it loose (and shear off the pin in the pump.)
@reebarr8832 Жыл бұрын
In order to time the P-Pump the vacuum pump needs to be removed?
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
No the vacuum pump can stay in place.
@reebarr8832 Жыл бұрын
@@pddofficial Thanks
@willobrien34138 жыл бұрын
awesome video . and a super easy way to time an engine, plus I really liked seeing my engine and pump , lol, love the billet cam pin just wish you used the billet pump pin ! , but seeing the stock one takes any confusion out of the equation for any noobs watching,
@MrCclardy066 жыл бұрын
What is the best timing for a 4BT? Doing a compound setup with bigger injectors.. etc..
@jkuri894 жыл бұрын
Can 215hp pumps at 13.5 stock timing benefit from 18° I know all pumps are times different from factory. Can some p7100 pump perform better than others with same "18°" let's say a 160hp vs 180 or 215? Thank you.
@JohnDoe-du6yi4 жыл бұрын
How much power increase can be expected from this? Will it make cold starts harder?
@jonathonlesko35544 жыл бұрын
Timing does make starts a little harder, but ultimately if you’re running more fuel then timing is a good idea to clean up smoke
@BrownParticles7 жыл бұрын
Also, is that a nordlock washer? How's that working out?
@dsadzaglishvili8 ай бұрын
Nice plate! Ordered
@pddofficial8 ай бұрын
Awesome! Thank you!
@sorehair70754 жыл бұрын
ive been looking for this and finally found it
@maxbollinger61583 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much, such a clear and understandable video.
@lukeirmer53165 жыл бұрын
So does this work with unknown timing etc? Ppump swap... pin tdc the motor, pin the pump cam without the gear then install the gear at what ever advanced timing..?.. or is there more to it since the pump would be zeroed as well as the motor rather than say factory 12.5 or 14 degree
@MarioAllDrunkAboutIt6 жыл бұрын
I’ve been watching your video for a while. I will be shopping from your site first chance I get. I was wondering if you all have any products for 01-02 P Pump Conversions? And if so, may you please make a video on the conversion? Thanks
@deanpeterson79725 жыл бұрын
@@pddofficial can i get the link for the timing kit? o also have an 01 24v that i and converting to p7100 but am having a hell of a time figuring out correct timing... i had the pump timed at 18 degrees from our local injection shop. any help would be greatly appreciated
@robert_wallace41073 жыл бұрын
@@deanpeterson7972 I've got a 01 24v with a p pump as well. What timing did you end up going with?
@Parents_of_Twins6 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I suppose if the killer dowel hasn't been taken care of yet, a person could change their time while also taking care of that issue. By the way what years was that an issue?
@thankfullife79686 жыл бұрын
Parent of Twins. Pretty sure the 94-98.5 2nd gens were the only culprits. Man get it done before it’s too late!!!
@92powerdiesel615 жыл бұрын
@@thankfullife7968 also the 89-93... everyone forgets about a 1st gen.
@lacquerhead69382 жыл бұрын
My 98 12 valve had the dowel pin fall out before I bought it around 190k and my 97 was still good with around 190k. I think the guy who sold me the 98 tried turning up the fuel but didn't know what he was doing and that might be why the dowel fell out. I drove it straight home after buying it and immediately started restoring the entire engine. My 97 was a lot more clean than my 98 as well. I've been curious if they were built in different factories.
@doserdiesel2 жыл бұрын
How can you tell by using this wheel if the timing has already been changed on the engine?
@pddofficial2 жыл бұрын
you would have to use the spill port method or a dial indicator
@CurtisDrew12 жыл бұрын
So if you set your degree ring magnet on the pulley as soon as you get the TDC Plunger in and set the wire indicator pointing to zero. Once you pull the TDC cam pin and rotate your engine to find the pumps marker you will be able to see and know your pump is set at 14 degrees or if it's been changed. Correct? (I think my engines previous owner monkeyed with the timing!) Then it will just be a matter of popping off the timing gear and rotating the engine to the degrees you want to total advance it and will not have any question as to what it's set at, if I understand this correctly. No adding or guesssing as I see it. You set this one to 22 degrrees advanced, but I thought I was told that for my 400 HP settings I only needed 18 degrees. So I'll be doing some research before I torque it all back down. FYI the pressure bvalves and govenor springs were quite the challenge to do standing on my head using mirrors. Hence me switching to simple back up cameras and a monitor. Been a few years since I degreed out my Hot Rod Gas Engines cams, and just making sure I have the total comcept in my head. Cuz, I'm about to do mine in my front engine RV and it's going to be a standing on my head job. My plan is to set up small 4 inch back up monitor & camera, p;us a bore camera for the P Pump and do it all by feel and watching the monitors. Should be interesting!!!!!
@forrestteague41875 жыл бұрын
What are you turning on the engine to make it spin when setting the time. Like what nut or gear or what?
@vendetta13064 жыл бұрын
Usually crank it via the alternator
@JohnSmith-qj4cf3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing
@pddofficial3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@williamdriedger6448 Жыл бұрын
Does it only work for the 12 valve or does it work to set the timing on a 24 valve ppump
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
Any p7100 motor.
@cherokeeoutlaw50775 жыл бұрын
What would you charge to take a 6-4 out of a Ford Powerstroke they put in a Cummings Diesel turn key ready to go
@isaknils12204 жыл бұрын
Hello. Why do you need to adjust the timing? What is it good for? :)
@97F350Cummins Жыл бұрын
When you advance the pump timing you increase the high rpm horsepower. Sometimes you get a little better mpg. Up to a point, don’t go to far. A few degrees maxes a big difference.
@joseibarra68006 жыл бұрын
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@adrianspencer77432 жыл бұрын
How accurate is this compared to a dial indicator?
@fernandopieri5 жыл бұрын
Hello, in my case my truck injection time is 12.3 degrees. How many degrees will I have to advance. I bought a tool from you and I look forward to using it. Thanks
@jkuri894 жыл бұрын
@@pddofficial is the factory timing the same for all let's say 215hp pumps. My truck doesn't have the data plate and some say factory timing on a 215hp is 13.5 some say 15.5 did some searching but can't find a solid answer. Would 18° be good for a 215 pump? AFC live and supporting modifications, 4k gsk, 60lb over valve springs, 191 delivery valves, ( runs very clean ) 5 speed 4.10 rear end. 9,000 pound service truck, daily driver with a little get up and go. I don't hot rod the truck, but do enjoy a smile here and there. Also tow 10k pounds on occasion. Thank you in advance.
@BrownParticles7 жыл бұрын
If everything is torqued down properly, when you go to pull the injection pump gear, do you leave the plastic tool in the pump?
@truckcampertraveler73695 жыл бұрын
This is explained in the video
@lilquickfeetpanna5 жыл бұрын
What would be the best timing for towing? Or to get the best fuel economy?
@androidmachineworks40314 жыл бұрын
I think I remember reading that around 15.5 gives a little better fuel economy without making it hard to start.
@0dbm4 жыл бұрын
Did you remove your TDC pin before removed your 8 degrees
@kylegohrmann18288 жыл бұрын
What if it's not at factory timing?? How do u adjust it then
@TheRustiestShackleford7 жыл бұрын
Pin the motor at TDC and pin the pump so you know that everything is at zero, just like he did in the video.
@MWARFARETHREE7 жыл бұрын
Okay so if I tdc the pump and engine separate I am at 0° timing or stock timing?
@keiferjanz31977 жыл бұрын
Blake Taylor stock timing. The pump timing lock pin is set to the spec on the cover unless the pump was ever off and rebuilt and requested that the static timing lock be moved to a new pin timing.
@keiferjanz31977 жыл бұрын
Honestly though using the dial indicator method I feel is better in the long run.
@skylerhouston7 жыл бұрын
agreed! or how do you find where the timing is set to begin with if it has been fooled with?
@johnarden88522 жыл бұрын
How is your buddy rotating the motor?
@pddofficial2 жыл бұрын
With a barring tool
@Deezle_Gaming3 жыл бұрын
My only issue is spraying solvent into the crank case. Am I worrying too much?
@pddofficial3 жыл бұрын
no we always do a oil change afterwards
@thefluffychub56042 жыл бұрын
I'm a little confused. You pinned the engine to top dead center. How did you keep turning the pump to center to pin it with the engine pinned?
@pddofficial2 жыл бұрын
They should line up together when the motor is pinned otherwise you have to double nut the pump and spin it that way
@thefluffychub56042 жыл бұрын
@@pddofficialok thank you and thank you for the reply. Next question.. I installed ypur 4k springs .. tgeres apparently no fuel plate in this thing ( prior owners doings) and it still won't rev past 2200 rpm.. do I need to keep the fuel solenoid off??? Or on?? Vany help is greatly appreciated
@corpsmind592011 ай бұрын
Now how do you do this with a VE?
@pddofficial11 ай бұрын
On a VE pump you can adjust the pump by loosening the bolts taking a ratchet strap and getting it as close to the head as you can witch typically nets you 3* advance other wise you are taking the gear case cover off and jumping a tooth on the gears.
@fbiagent97843 жыл бұрын
What if you don’t know your timing before you start?
@kmunroe91003 жыл бұрын
so you can crack the nut loose on the pump with the pin in place.. then after timing only partly tighten with the pin in place?.. i don'y want to break my pin
@pablomarquez44314 жыл бұрын
Sry for the noob question but what are the Benefits of retarding it 8 degrees more? Do you gain hp? Or faster acceleration? Does it run rough at idle or smoother?
@nou82574 жыл бұрын
retarding makes it fire fuel quicker to the cylinder therefore it can gain power from what i remember
@jessevella76162 жыл бұрын
By retarding the engine like this you’re not changing the valve train timing but you are actually advancing the fuel timing which puts fuel into the cylinders earlier creating a better chance for the fuel to burn completely before going out the exhaust, increases power but will increase cylinder pressure/temps and can cause hard starting when cold
@xade78632 жыл бұрын
@@jessevella7616 I’ve had advancing the timing help starting not doing it this way though we tilted pump and it was on another pump
@clancytaylor77145 жыл бұрын
Well this is waaay easier than using the dial indicator method.
@cuda51943 жыл бұрын
So is 22 degrees the go to number
@coyne2507 жыл бұрын
just wondering if this timing kit you sell will work for me when i Ppump swap my 24V? and if so where do you get the top dead center pin that located on the back side of the timing housing?
@coyne2507 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the info ill be buying that tool and the push pin didn't come with the gearcase. So where could i buy one?
@coyne2507 жыл бұрын
Ok cool I'll google that and see what I come up with!!
@darwinbenitez96946 жыл бұрын
Good question!!
@sd_hemi66362 жыл бұрын
Is this pretty much the same for a first gen?
@pddofficial2 жыл бұрын
it is not the VE pump have a key way so you have to skip a tooth on them
I tried torquing the 24mm plug to 50 ft lbs… did not end well. Go easy on that one
@IWORKUWATCH3 жыл бұрын
Guys I am new to the 12v but videos like this help me with my build #eddiepellegrin
@tomflorek37275 жыл бұрын
So the timing was at 14 deg stock. You added 8 deg so you took it 22 deg. Isn’t the best between 16-18 deg?
@dodgeman46545 жыл бұрын
PowerDrivenDiesel so is 6° of timing on a overhauled but stock 12 valve too much?
@patrickthompson2471 Жыл бұрын
I’ve always spill port timed
@dieselfueled_6 жыл бұрын
Nordlock?
@vendetta13063 жыл бұрын
What I can't understand is why I have set the timing on my truck about 20 times and it still acts like the timing slips or is not set properly. I'm running out of ideas
@jonreed68447 жыл бұрын
Why is the timing set at 22 degrees. As I have noticed, most people don't go past 18. what are the advantages or disadvantages if I set mine at 22, or 18, or 16 or what ever?
@jonreed68446 жыл бұрын
Excellent!!! Thank you so much. I will be purchasing the timing magnet soon.
@jerrysadventures4913 Жыл бұрын
Why 22 deg?
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
Timing will depend on where you live to what kind of power you are after?
@dixiemae50423 жыл бұрын
Yes 👊🏻💪🏻
@jdirt19825 жыл бұрын
I don't always do my timing....... But when I do I use a paper plate and a jizz rag....... 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@timothydean3 жыл бұрын
Oil fill tube ?? What
@pddofficial3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a 12v Cummins or p-pumped 24v? All the factory pickup truck 1994 thru 1998 12v Cummins have an oil fill/oil cap and tube assembly. This whole assembly can be removed to gain access to the injection pump gear/nut.
@richardwelkiv83255 жыл бұрын
In your video you show a piece of wire as a marker for the timing . But on your website your kit does not show the wire . Is this something you have to make yourself ??
@nou82574 жыл бұрын
He said in the vid its just a piece of wire he put around the 10mm bolt for reference
@daviderickson6933 Жыл бұрын
Bro I think even this second so called dirty cheep way should be decently accurate I don’t see why not
@pddofficial Жыл бұрын
We agree do it all the time!
@omarcarbajal18139 ай бұрын
how much should i retard my engine i bought the 600 hp kit from yall