Got Power? 8S Conversion with Castle 1520 Motor

Today we upgrade one of our Arrma 6S BLX vehicles to 8S, with the all new Castle Creations 1520 Brushless Motor & Mamba Monster X 8S ESC. How did it work? Let's find out.
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[@DeeEhm]

I I have been looking at this combo for my Felony. You almost answered every question I had in one video. Bravo guys. Keep up the good work.

[@88davidw]

Great video. Crazy how hot those tyres got! As always Brett makes a great video. 🙂

[@loum7008]

I love this video and combo! I put it in my V2 Infraction with 40t spur and 29t pinion and went 112mph no sweat. Backed it up with 111 mph run. I need to change the motor mount to run a larger 34t pinion. Looking forward to spring! For winter I took out the 1520 and reinstalled the spekrum motor. It runs awesome with the castle esc. I bet you could hit 100 with the stock motor. Great stuff!

[@bboss8048]

This should slot right into my mini z 4runner.

[@brysonkuhn3290]

It's about the size of a mini z 4runner lol

[@bboss8048]

@@brysonkuhn3290 its ok. I plan on running the smaller hole pistons and 2w oil.

[@brysonkuhn3290]

@@bboss8048 yup that plan sounds bulletproof. Go for it!

[@RC-ty5ym]

@@bboss8048 Nice dude, give us a video of the fastest kyosho 4runner when the conversion is done 😂😂

[@carloshnunez]

That will be interesting to see

[@klwarhouse]

I once converted a Kyosho DRX Gas to electric. Bought a 3s and a 4s battery. With the 4s battery, I could barely keep the car together in one piece!!! Just insane speed and torque. I can't even imagine 8s.

[@KaniZRC]

Perfect combo! Love the esc 2s-8s range.

[@Shaun-hp2yz]

3s-8s

[@KaniZRC]

@@Shaun-hp2yz ESC 2s-8s, 3s-8s for the motor:)

[@Shaun-hp2yz]

@@KaniZRC ohhhh

[@kevinmccubbin3596]

Did the MM X8S fit without any major modifications? How difficult was it to install it or what did you do to install it?

[@KaniZRC]

@@kevinmccubbin3596Motor fits directly without any modification on my Infraction v1.

[@twinturbotony93]

I didn't know they had a new 1520. I've got the old school version in my LST. Great motor.

[@NCMATT]

Put a 30 tooth pinion on it and do a speed run plzs MATT FROM NORTH CAROLINA.

[@scottdaubenspeck2291]

Lol. He said "use the power responsibly". Thats funny.

[@powcar91]

Bret is uncle Ben.

[@gagefrizzi8838]

Your going to break your car if you don't use the power responsibly

[@demetrioschionis2066]

@@gagefrizzi8838 True

[@BigJay916]

Thanks for this awesome awesome informational video!!!💯🦾😎

[@Jon.B]

Nice vid! Very informational.

[@santiagoguillen3543]

This video is just awesome dude!. Tks a lot.

[@ricardoacevedo817]

Love it man keep them vids coming

[@gunsandcommissions]

Oooof that's a serious power system

[@bigandcoolrcschool294]

I wanna upgrade my senton 3s to this! It would need ALOT of upgrades though. Like driveshafts and tires and pretty much everything else. 😂😂

[@illhairacing3543]

Wish I could’ve bought that combo

[@logieuk]

Nice, just ordered one from the UK from you. Cant wait to get it in my Infraction... or EXB i dont know which car to put it in now lol

[@bigandcoolrcschool294]

Got the email notification you guys sent out about this, and I wanna get it sooo bad! I Just don’t have money! 😅

[@reidisaacson9623]

I bought an Xmaxx 8s combo. No idea why but I needed it and it was sitting around so i decided to put it in a stock slash 2wd. Barely on the throttle itll leave burnout Mark's on concrete. Ran it multiple times on 6s and 8s. I originally was going to put it in a slash 4x4 but it wouldnt fit so slash 2wd it became

[@MatrixRC]

Thanks for putting this up because I just received my Amain Castle combo here. Already fitted in my Arrma Felony and let see what weakness we can expose on this beast!👍🏼💯

[@Hanky_Bannist8r]

Holy moses that thing is a tire melting beast !

[@TheEgb18c]

Heck yea ! This is great !

[@Ferg451]

I have on of these in my rustler 4x4 so much fun on and off road it beats everything since it’s so light(until I crashed it now it’s gone)

[@oddessy2g]

Good video. I'm planing on buying the infraction soon. And was thinking about upgrading it would like to see a tad bit over 100mph. Those are some good tips.

[@sm0keu]

It’s sound awesome 👍🏽

[@obsessedrc7836]

Great video

[@ntg4135]

Would be interesting how the Castle 1717 Motor works in the infraction. It should fit with the separate sold motor mound.

[@AMain_Hobbies]

The 1717 is a little shorter than this 1520 so it should fit right in there. -Brett

[@basook6116]

awesome power

[@chriswade3986]

What gears do you use ? I’m trying to figure out gears for my cars , limitless, Infraction, and both felony’s

[@daddykatt26able]

About to try this on my big rock. I believe it will fit 🤣

[@dracolyth]

You're killing me smalls

[@loum7008]

Wow, you melted the tires!!! BTW, best mod for the Infraction is the fender kit from Scorched RC. I drive my V2 every where now. Like drifting on hard packed snow this morning with my Amain AKA IBeam buggy tires!!!

[@AMain_Hobbies]

You put IBeams on the Infraction!!!? How did the tires look after? -Brett

[@loum7008]

@@AMain_Hobbies I was running them in the snow. The grip was awesome and no tire wear. Previously I put Typhon tires on the Infraction. They are slightly shorter than Proline Badlands (also from Amain). The Badlands are too tall. In the field around the corner the Typhon hit 50 mph before I needed to hit the brakes. The Infraction hit 54!!! At 30mph nailing it would send grass and dirt flying! Keep the videos coming! Great job 👏 👍

[@AMain_Hobbies]

@@loum7008 Sounds like a blast! Can't believe those iBeams didn't wear, even in snow. Thanks for the info Louis! -Brett

[@loum7008]

@@AMain_Hobbies so I just took them off and put the streets back on. One 6s session, 1 4s session and 4 3s sessions later and they are in excellent shape! 3s is plenty of wheel speed for snow. I also don't have much room for ballooning as I noticed when I was drying out the tires on the bench. Thanks for the videos!!! -Lou

[@loum7008]

BTW, by excellent shape I mean they all look excellent. I did label what tire came off what corner but they all looked exactly the same. As you know all the Infraction tires cook the rears first. Too fun!!!

[@chriscotter3614]

this would fit pretty good in a 1/12 right?

[@basicsyphilis8]

This is going to be my next truck I get

[@Livlifetaistdeth]

That's entertainment!

[@lucaswilliams1011]

First speed run on 8 s . 81mph .Back to the future in 7 more miles 😂

[@damienreyes2916]

When your electric car goes so fast it sounds like a nitro

[@adtjtjdjsj]

@Bhuvan Suri i dont care

[@gasolinediesel972]

Would this motor work with the VXL-6s? I kinda wanna put one in my UDR. The stock 2200 kv motor lacks torque. I don't need the 8s. I just need the lower kv rating. I was gonna put one in my E-revo then I saw that it doesn't fit.

[@TheAmericanUhate]

I got this motor & esc combo in my UDR right now. Still trying to figure out gearing. The lower KV than stock means gearing way up, then heat becomes an issue

[@jdnic1]

Lmao! The tires is hotter than the motor

[@Gazelle0078]

Gonna tear thru tires with that setup

[@chunbinba3006]

i ordered a 1520 from your ebay store i am waiting for it to arrive for installation

[@Enoe24]

What pinion/spur setup would you recommend using this esc and motor in a Traxxas Maxx v2?

[@mathewgarrard3621]

Looks good why dont you put it in a limitles to see how good the motor and esc are in a speed machine

[@chevyryda60]

Going with the 1717 1650kv for my typhon v5 what gear ⚙️ in need for it speed/bash

[@brycetrefethen]

I bought an eco power servo for my traxxas slash 4x4 and it is too small so what do I do it won’t fit??? Pls help Also I went to the store and they said it would fit and the problem is that I live 4 hours away from the store I’m so disappointed because it is the right one it just doesn’t fit.

[@jknewb6276]

I was almost the 100th like. I have nothing to say about 8s besides in my dreams.

[@747technics8]

I was going to say first but then I remembered that I am a good human being and have a brain

[@ianhenwood9098]

We all have a brain

[@747technics8]

@@ianhenwood9098 except people who say first on videos

[@ianhenwood9098]

Makes seance

[@RC-ty5ym]

@@747technics8 an except Trump.

[@wcodaz]

You did say it

[@Petriefied0246]

It's funny to see that it doesn't get hot, but that's what high voltage does to you!

[@dawsonbrucks3001]

What song did you use for your intro?

[@braedenp9619]

Would I be able to fit this motor in my slash 4x4?

[@coreylerille6819]

I just bought the Arrma Infraction and wanting to do the 8s conversion is this the best combination over the Hobbywing Ez Run Max 6 V3 with a Poseidon Pro 1800kv 8s? Running 1650kv or a higher or lower kv ? Do you think 1650kv is the best kv to go with Thanks

[@AMain_Hobbies]

We are unfamiliar with any "best" way to do it, instead, you have many options available to you. Different kV motors provide different power for different applications. Some people just want a car to run while other people are looking to create high speed machines - each of which would probably use a different kV motor. -Brett

[@coreylerille6819]

@@AMain_Hobbies im not sure what i want i want to go fast but i also want to be able to Bash/Drift just by changing the Pinion i never had anything as Bad Ass as you Guys Bulid but i love to have something that is crazy modified like you Guys have i have like 20 different Rc Buggys and Truggys but nothing that is crazy modification but now im looking to have some that are modified i just bought the Arrma Kraton 8s and The Typhon 6s and the Infraction plus i have Losi,Mugens,Kyosho, Tekno,Traxxas,Hot Bodies, Team Associated and i forget all of the others LOL

[@AMain_Hobbies]

@@coreylerille6819 Haha awesome. I understand wanting to make an 8S machine. You have a lot of options to you and Castle or Hobbywing will serve you well. For the efficiency of your electronics, I would recommend a low kv motor with 8S power, and gear up when you want high rpm speed runs. A higher kv motor will generate higher rpm overall, but at a cost for efficiency. If this isn't a dedicated speed run car, shoot for efficiency with low heat, long runtimes and long life. Hope this makes sense man! -Brett

[@familyman8644]

How come you didn't run XLX2?

[@Alkatraz8187]

Good morning, I have a V1 model limtless which engine would you recommend between 1520 1650kv and 1717 1650kv? Will the 1520 with its 88 mm length give me problems inserting it into the original housing?

[@MrGeert1972]

I expected more of it on 8s. For now I’m at 85mph in my Talion with stock BLX system and was thinking of putting in that castle combo. But at first look it wouldn’t be much better.

[@brunonaranca4482]

It is but they are geared way down

[@Gazelle0078]

U need gamechanger fans. No temp issues if u get those

[@keithsmodelsandrcs6593]

Nice

[@NepDouble07]

If you buy the motor seperately, does it come with the motor wires soldered on still?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Yes. -Brett

[@traxxasfan3674]

Amain I have a question, what will happen if you did swap the wires on a censored system will it burn up the motor, ESC, or short out the battery?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

It could damage the sensor board inside the motor (or completely burn it up). -Brett

[@traxxasfan3674]

@@AMain_Hobbies thanks just wondering love the video 👍

[@AMain_Hobbies]

@@traxxasfan3674 Thanks! -Brett

[@PantyDropper1]

It should be noted the can size is not important but the rotor magnet is.

[@dragracer4407]

can you use the castle 1520 motor unsensored? and will it work with the spektrum 8s esc?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Yes and yes. -Brett

[@idarkpuppet]

can you post a link for bulk hoons or can we get bulk pricing on the GRPs? I go through a set every 2 runs with only 6S. never mind 8s. I have a garbage bag full of shredded hoons on useless rims -- I just need rubber!

[@AMain_Hobbies]

I feel your pain Stephen. Unfortunately we're only able to get both of those tires as pre-mounts. -Brett

[@idarkpuppet]

@@AMain_Hobbies And here I thought switching to electric would reduce my consumables.. joke's on me :D

[@isaackshirley4695]

So using the castle esc do we have to program it with Laptop or the way you did it on this video is how you can program it

[@AMain_Hobbies]

You can use whatever method you want. PC programming is the most robust of course, but that's not always needed, like when you just need to reverse the motor direction. -Brett

[@isaackshirley4695]

Ok thanks I always thought you had to program it from the laptop I didn't know you could do it manually thats y I didn't ever go castle I always do hobbywing cause its easier to program

[@ratnakarmondal7824]

@Amain hobbies in many rc cars I saw the esc and the receiver are combined(esc and receiver combo). In this case can I change the esc without changing the receiver??

[@AMain_Hobbies]

No. -Brett

[@ratnakarmondal7824]

@@AMain_Hobbies ok thanks🙂

[@stormhawk31]

But will it fit in the Traxxas Slash 4x4?

[@justinnhl95]

Can you put a higher speed pinion in please on 8s

[@bahurupigupta4245]

'Amain hobbies' I have a question. I have an rc car (hbx16889). And it is my first rc. It use 2s lipo. I understand that if I use 3s lipo on it, so, I will need to change the motor and esc. But will I need to change the receiver and the servo too???

[@AMain_Hobbies]

No, the ESC features a BEC which regulates the voltage that is delivered to the receiver, and then the servo. This way, your receiver and servo do not receive more voltage than required. -Brett

[@bahurupigupta4245]

@@AMain_Hobbies thank you very much 👍👍😊😊

[@etiennebohlen5811]

I am planning on getting a Maxx, and I have the EZ peak plus tray charger. Can I charge a 4s LiPo battery with that charger?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

No, the EZ Peak Plus (TRA2970) is 3S max. You'll need one of the Live chargers to have 4S charging capabilities; here is the single-channel version: www.amainhobbies.com/traxxas-ezpeak-live-multichemistry-battery-charger-w-auto-id-4s-12a-100w-tra2971/p578883 -Brett

[@shawnsquires2716]

Would the bigger 1650kv motor fit in the erevo? I heard it should fit if you put the motor on the high cg motor setting

[@AMain_Hobbies]

The motor won't fit the way the E-Revo 2.0 is now and would hit the rear shock mount. If you can raise the motor up to clear the mount, then you might be in business. -Brett

[@shawnsquires2716]

@@AMain_Hobbies alright. I’ll either talk to my local hobbyshop or ask around and see if anyone knows if it’ll fit or not

[@tyoung7509]

I have a typhon 6S... is it possible for u to test the conversion kit on typhon ?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

We don't have a Typhon like we mentioned in the video. But the 1520 should fit your buggy. -Brett

[@dawsonbrucks3001]

What was your intro song on this video?

[@beleg1437]

On 4s in a 1:8 Buggy is 1650kv fast enough for track racing? Or would it require 6s?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

It's probably under kv'ed for big tracks and long straightaways, but you could probably get away with smaller and tighter tracks. If you're serious about racing, you'd be best served by a competition oriented system. If you're just looking to have a good time, bash around and occasionally race, this is a good system. Also, if you don't need the smaller 1520 motor can size, check out the slightly larger and more powerful 1717 motor can; it's also available in the same ESC combo: www.amainhobbies.com/castle-creations-mamba-monster-x-8s-1-6-esc-motor-combo-w-1717-sensored-motor-cse010-0165-02/p-qqqeqqyq6zzeqctz Regarding racing; what I said about the other system applies to this one as well. Hope that helps. -Brett

[@BackBottomGristlyLump]

What gearing did you end up using for bashing that didnt overheat?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Shoot, can't remember off the top of my head. Whatever we said in the video, that's what we used. -Brett

[@swisscheez5509]

I’m running that motor with max 6 esc in my kraton exb running 16/46 with 2 4s zeee batteries an it seizes up sent it to castle they sent a new one to me an it happen again what am I doing wrong

[@space390]

does it work with the arrma typhon 6s blx

[@evangurney4537]

I cant imagine how powerfull an 8s Maxx would be

[@Otiesh]

Hi, I recently just got a mamba monster X 8S ESC , But I dont know if it's fan is ok, because it only spins when powering on the ESC but stops. does it work that way? because it does not constantly spins.

[@AMain_Hobbies]

They are thermally controlled fans, so it may shut off if not needed. -Brett

[@DeeEhm]

​ @AMain Hobbies did you all revisit this with better gearing?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

No. We gave the car to the guys at our local retail AMain hobby shop to play with and show off to customers. Not sure what state the vehicle is in right now. -Brett

[@brianstevens2244]

I would like to put together a arrma limitless bash/speed could you put me a price on it. With xl2 and the motor?

[@zenify-_-69]

Now imagine putting this in a slash

[@tuckera1879]

YES

[@racenowRCs]

No, not how I would want it set up anyway, I prefer onroad rcs

[@zenify-_-69]

@@racenowRCs true but just imagine it it would be so cool to have a car it goes that fast off road

[@mikeupton5406]

Would this motor/esc fit in the Kyosho Challenger? asking for a friend

[@AMain_Hobbies]

HA! The Fazer Mk2 chassis? Even if the motor did fit, it would blow that little car up. If you try it, film it and send it to us! Otherwise, not recommended! -Brett

[@ratnakarmondal7824]

Which parts(like the brushless motor, esc, receiver, survo etc) are harmful if I only change the 2s lipo to 3s lipo

[@AMain_Hobbies]

You just need to ensure the ESC and motor are 3S compatible. -Brett

[@ratnakarmondal7824]

Thank you👍👍😊😊

[@Bc4z]

The Hobbywing 4985 fits in the Typhon so then the Castle will too :)

[@wanchanel]

🇮🇩 WoW Amazing ✔ I like your video 👍

[@pedroalonso6414]

I wanna upgrade my typhon 6s to 8s but I don't wanna do all the fixing and plus I'm a beginner to RC. I'll rather wait to see if ARRMA drops a new typhon 8s

[@juanpedroza2216]

U can install the motor and esc but can u still run it on 6S?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Sure. The ESC used is compatible between 2S thru 8S, and the motor is good from 3S to 8S. -Brett

[@Jeff.55649]

How dose the size of the 1520 can effect the speed compared to the stock UDR 2200Kv? The 1520 is slightly bigger but has 1650Kv!

[@AMain_Hobbies]

The size of the can helps determine how big of a rotor can fit, and how many magnets. The more magnets in there, and the more powerful they are, the more torque the motor should provide. And you'll know it's a very torque motor when you turn the output shaft with your fingers (with the motor unplugged, removed from the vehicle, and pinion gear removed). For the UDR, a longer can motor like this will hang out the back of the truck and probably get scratched up a lot. Might work with no issues, or it could be an issue. Suppose it depends on your terrain and how hard you drive. Hope this has helped Jeff. -Brett

[@gioberga3415]

I want to buy the team associated dr10 but I live in Italy, how much cost the spedition from America in your site?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Hello Gioberga. It is not possible for me to know the exact shipping charges, but I can help you find it. The best method to see exact shipping, is to add the items you want to your cart, and start the checkout process. You do not need to checkout, but the first step to checkout is the shipping page. This shipping page will show you all available shipping carriers, the shipping services offered, estimated delivery dates, and total cost. I hope this helps Gioberga. -Brett

[@gioberga3415]

@@AMain_Hobbies ok thank you for your help. I will inform you if I buy something

[@alexrex20]

I just wanna know how AMain doesn't have a Typhon 6S to test... lol

[@rayjohnson5875]

Hey Brett you know of a esc tray mount for traxxas maxx running this combo

[@AMain_Hobbies]

No. RPM makes a cage for that ESC but it's for the X-Maxx. You can make your own cage like we did in our Maxx 6S video. -Brett

[@rayjohnson5875]

@@AMain_Hobbies ok thanks for the info

[@subzerolives]

@Amain hobbies so the combo will fit a felony ?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Yes sir -Brett

[@keekay_cg32c7.r2]

Can you do fit one on the Maxx and do another run?

[@dimwitrj]

I remember seeing a video of someone who converted their Maxx to 6s and it was barely driveable. Edit: Did a search after commenting and it was actually AMain who posted the video of the 6s Maxx lol.

[@AMain_Hobbies]

;)

[@ctn88]

You guys should make an 8s 2wd Stampede 😂😂

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Hmm... -Brett

[@genericgoogleaccount8907]

We can find who is first We can find who is last But we can't find who asked

[@elvinowe]

i dont get it. what does that even mean man?

[@ValFPV]

@@elvinowe he probably meant: but we can't find the person that asked

[@meanodustino9563]

As a mechanic I have heard of alot of crazy engine swaps. you can fit it if you have the brains and banks😂 a LS1 into a subaru🤣 this is not much different 👍

[@stankakol5195]

I am new to this hobby. Are there 50 and 60 tooth gears?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

For the pinion gears, they usually don't go that high. And this particular type of gear pitch (MOD 1) usually doesn't go that high on the tooth count, but with large-power, speed run cars becoming more common, more companies are offering these large tooth count MOD 1 pinion gears, but you just have to find them. -Brett

[@dennis3004psp]

i use the 1717-1650kv with 19t pinion it gets hot i need 2 40mm cooling fans for the motor

[@massimotrickfingegameplays]

That motor fits in traxxas bandit vxl?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Negative. -Brett

[@simonleccacorvi1138]

Why didn’t you want to reverse the throttle using the transmitter?

[@AMain_Hobbies]

Because the ESC provides more power to forward direction than reverse. If you switch direction in the transmitter, your reverse will now have more power than going forward. -Brett

[@paulclancy2404]

If fits outcast it fit typhon