The WORST Mistake When Soldering Copper Pipe (Not Deburring) | GOT2LEARN

[@thomasmeyer5004]

While I have always included deburring , one great incentive for everyone to follow a rule, is understanding why it is necessary, nice illustration Got2Learn

[@Got2Learn]

Thank you very much Thomas!

[@doublej5171]

I’m a plumber but it’s been two and half years that I haven’t been able to do any work due to being paralyzed from the waist down. Watching this video makes me miss it even more. I’m ready to get healed and get back out there!

[@Got2Learn]

Hope for the best for you, just be careful!

[@doublej5171]

@@Got2Learn definitely and thank you very much. For now I’ll watch your videos and feel like I’m out there working.

[@postingid3214]

Double J, I'm just a random dude on the internet, but your comment makes me want to wish you the best. I hope you heal up quickly and get back to doing things that you're not able to do right now. Always throw positive energy out into the universe and it will answer in kind. Best of luck to you!

[@doublej5171]

@@postingid3214 thank you very much for your kind and uplifting words! I really appreciate it! It’s been a rough time so far and I don’t know how much longer it will be or if I’ll ever get back to normal. I’m keeping my spirits up though and hoping/working to get back to walking. Thanks again and wish the best of luck to you as well my friend!

[@RingingResonance]

@@doublej5171 May I ask, what happened?

[@johnkrim8377]

When I started my plumbing training 61 years ago, one of the first things we learned was iron pipe work. There are what's known as the 5 steps for iron pipe. Measure, mark, cut, ream ( DEBUR ) , thread. 55 year retired plumber

[@BalgaBear]

You've been retired for 55 years!? DAM BOI

[@bennorwood5181]

Sounds like you didn’t work very long because I doubt you are I’ve 100 years old

[@puyopop3085]

@@BalgaBear i assume he means he was a plumber for 55 years. And is currently retired.

[@kceros]

Wait, you only worked 14 years?

[@puyopop3085]

@@kceros I started as an electrician at 18, im 31 now and so I've been working for 13 years and I still have a long time to put in... so I dont get what you're saying.

[@danmidtdal4358]

I worked for a plumber friend for a day doing some copper piping. He saw me deburing the inside of copper pipe and said he had never heard of that before. Glad to know I was right in the first place, thanks.

[@Got2Learn]

;)

[@thecripplingestofdepressio2686]

I guess youtube recommended decided it was time for me to learn something.

[@Got2Learn]

Always time for learning ;)

[@postingid3214]

Great comment. Same thing happened to me. It was magically suggested on the side panel. The producer of this video did an outstanding job explaining things. I'm 53-years-old and have done some DIY plumbing. This video answered some questions that I've had and some that I haven't even thought of. Again, great job to Got2Learn!! Thank you.

[@Lord_Of_The_Muta_Crackhouse]

Yeah for real 😂

[@oscarcalderonbarquero5755]

To see something actually productive 😂

[@sniperdragon3345]

Yea sure, why not 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@NightmareBlade10]

I'm not a plumber, but I do love how you explained this scientifically and used a turbulence model to explain why it's important to deburr pipes. I learned a lot in this video, so thanks!

[@Got2Learn]

Glad it was helpful!!!

[@1200sbeemer]

42+ year plumber here and I couldn’t agree more. Great explanation. I just repaired a pinhole in a 3/4”copper pipe (type L) in a wall behind a water heater last week because of this.

[@Got2Learn]

💯💯💯

[@codymoncrief8478]

If you flip a pencil reamer 180, you can use it on the outside of pipe. Held correctly, the little bump on the tip of the blade actually rides on the end of the pipe and allows you to ream the outside equally well as the inside.

[@johnbull5394]

What do you mean flip it 180º? This sounds like a great tip, but I'm haing trouble following you. Do you mean reverse the direction of travel? I tend to use mine clockwise around the bore, are you suggesting to use it anti-clockwise on the outside?

[@bennyd8471]

Have you actually tried it? Damn near impossible! Not for deburring od anyways, the cutter geometry isn't meant for it.

[@johnbull5394]

@@bennyd8471 I've tried, but not persevered. Not currently in possession of one else I'd try again. @Cody Moncrief Have you tried this with success, personally?

[@kinzieconrad105]

Pulls out a knife and gets it done. More often than not it’s what you have on hand!

[@johnbull5394]

@@kinzieconrad105 But when you're a professional, learning the quickest and easiest ways mean you get the job done faster and the customers are happier. And you always have the correct tools to hand if you're organised. For DIY, a knife is fine and does a good job.

[@treeguyable]

Just a homeowner, but re did a lot of plumbing on my 3 houses. I use the cone type inner/ outer deburrer. Plumbing is not something I care to re visit. Doesn't take much longer at all to do it right.

[@RPRosen-ki2fk]

I love how travel that fine line of being totally clear and simple, without ... dumbing thing down.

[@Got2Learn]

Thanks :)

[@eazyrat]

Dude, the editing in these videos is awesome. I can actually pay attention and listen the whole way without losing interest. Thanks. Make more please!

[@Got2Learn]

I appreciate you watching my videos!! Thank you

[@Layarion]

@@Got2Learn what program do you use for the visual aids? like of the waterflow in the metal pipe.

[@newkingd0m]

This is literally the reason I always deburred and reamed all my pipes as well and I knew I was right. Glad to see others think so as well.

[@Got2Learn]

Yes!!

[@tonyhemingway7980]

Thank you, for adding the plastic pipe section. Another thing that, some, people don't realize is that plastic pipe needs to be cleaned before you glue it. It's just my preference, but I like to use cleaner, rather than primer, because it's easier to see that the pipe has been thoroughly cleaned. I have had people tell me that new plastic doesn't need cleaning and I've, also, seen their fittings leak.

[@xenuno]

Silicone seal, applied in same manner (both pipe and socket) as cement, works well for decently supported non pressure pipe. Still need to rough up both surfaces but joint is quite strong.

[@tomrogers9467]

@@xenuno I’ve used silicone on TEMPORARY drain lines. Works fine and easier to strip and re-use. The silicone really doesn’t bond to the plastic, acts more as a gasket. Would never consider using on a pressure line or for a permanent install.

[@xenuno]

@@tomrogers9467Right .. which is why I said "decently supported non pressure pipe". If roughed up it bonds better than you think.

[@carneeki]

Nice animations and close ups! As a machinist, we deburr almost everything out of habit for our own safety so we don't cut ourselves while handling parts between setups (and also so a bur doesn't skew the work in a setup). All round best practice, thanks for sharing :)

[@Got2Learn]

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[@G5Hohn]

The closeups and demonstrations on these Got2learn plumbing videos is as good as it gets

[@Got2Learn]

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[@sleeknub]

Totally agree.

[@Got2Learn]

@@sleeknub 🤗🤗🤗

[@tedspens]

I always deburr only because I was taught that the burr will restrict flow. I never knew about the turbulence causing pinhole leaks.

[@plaid11]

Yep, that’s the main downside to copper pipes. Even a little piece of sand that gets stuck somewhere will cause pitting that leads to the pin holes. That’s also why it’s not a good idea to use copper pipes for any kind of drain piping. As long as there’s constant flow, copper pipes can last as long as any house.

[@bernardkinsky1637]

I learned that at Caterpillar as a apprentice 1978

[@pattognozzi]

Loved seeing the water turbulence graphics and the clear plastic pipe connections. Especially the example showing the glue being pushed up to the front.

[@Got2Learn]

Yes, those were the most important aspects I needed to show, thank you so much Patrick T ;)

[@maradona-xf4mc]

Can you please guide me how to send a school or community college for plumbing so I can get training for a month or two?

[@Drunkmex319]

You are absolutely correct, deburring is necessary for any project with a long lifespan. In a pinch, and for short term projects, a pocket knife can suffice.

[@Got2Learn]

💯

[@joeysane416]

I'm not a plumber by trade but I do alot of plumbing from time to time, when I was taught how to sweat copper, the old guy said you never ever sweat pipe without deburring! Pride and craftsmanship is a rare thing these days

[@Got2Learn]

🙏🙏🙏

[@joeysane416]

@Deon Denis totally agree, whenever I walk into a newly remodeled restaurant or a new one, the tiles are always crooked and uneven, I've yet to see caulking done properly, trim work is horrible, it's just sad that things are like that now

[@robertgarrett7007]

I’m betting the word “Craftsmanship” will be removed from the dictionary within 20 years because it will be unheard of.

[@buzzsaw301]

When I first got into the trades over 20yrs ago, i knew this old drunk plumber, he deburred every pipe. That guy was drunk when by the time he got to work and sipped on beer all day at work, but he was a great plumber

[@joeysane416]

@@buzzsaw301 yea that's how alot of them old timers were back in the day, I've worked with quite a few, drank through out the day but took work very serious as hard to believe as that is, they took pride in what they did, also they could get away with drinking because things were different back then, you didn't have to tie off and wear a hard hat just to fart like you do today

[@fiolds350]

I was a union plumber steamfitter. And this is 100% accurate.

[@Got2Learn]

Thank uou much!!!

[@PaintHerWhite]

Who cares?

[@TwinShards]

I've alway grind the outside edge (deburr) to make it easy to insert but only limed away the inside lip made by my cuts, never made any deep "correct" deburr I didn't know this could have this much of an impact. Very informative channel! :) I learned a lot in a short time.

[@Got2Learn]

👌👌👌

[@GremlinsVillage]

Excellent presentation. Not a plumber but found out the whys of reaming all pipe. I use Shark Bite fittings whenever possible and now understand why it's critical to debur. Thanks

[@Got2Learn]

You are most welcome, please share this video if you can, thanks! :)

[@Kadranos]

In home appliance repair we tend to deburr with sandpaper when working on sealed systems. Sandpaper tends to take most of the particles with it, which helps keeps them from getting in and clogging the capillary tube.

[@HighlanderNorth1]

Great information. I'm no plumber, but I decided to take on the task of replacing poorly placed pipes leading up into my kitchen sink from the basement below, and running hot and cold water pipes about 10 feet over to a sink that had been installed in the basement by previous owners, who had never gotten around to actually doing it. I decided to use a copper-to-PVC adapter, and to do the new plumbing in PVC. I bought a DIY manual and asked advice. I was told that, should I eventually sell the house, the home inspectors would specifically look for purple PVC primer on all the joints, and may fail it if it wasn't there, despite the fact that modern PVC cement actually precluded the need for the purple primer. So I made sure to slop on the purple stuff before cementing everything together, so that it would be VERY easy to see, just in case! I lived there for 6 more years, and never had any leaks or problems with my first-ever plumbing job...

[@Got2Learn]

Good job bud, yeah...a lot of inspectors have that as a requirement or they don't let it pass.

[@HighlanderNorth1]

@@Got2Learn Thanks. That was the quickest response I've ever gotten to a post! There were a few copper pipe joints I had to solder before adapting them to PVC the rest of the way, and I remember being impressed by what I guess would be referred to as the "capillary action" of how the solder was automatically "sucked" into and throughout the joint, requiring almost no effort from me...

[@Got2Learn]

Yes capillary action always impressed me, even to this day, it's such a cool phenomenon. I am glad you were able to get it done man ;)

[@jasonsmith6408]

I have done many service calls of pinholes near a fitting. After running black iron for hydronics and fire protection I always deburred. It was easy on the 300 and it just became a good habit.

[@grselectronicshobbytutoring]

Basic simple in-depth information for all the plumber to know to enhance their quality of work.👍❤️

[@Got2Learn]

😊😊😊

[@etprecisionmachine2379]

Thank You, Thank You, Thank You., I am a machinist so I deal with deburring parts every day. I also have to deal with hydraulic systems, mostly the repair of them after somebody with no clue has already messed things up. Plumbing for water is no different. Free flow is very important for the reasons you show in your video. Whenever I plumb something I make sure there will be nothing to negatively affect the flow. Burrs and excess solder cause all sorts of problems and conscientious plumbers will not leave burrs on pipe cuts, will not use too much solder, and will clean joints of flux after soldering. Eric

[@Got2Learn]

Very well said, thanks eric!

[@ilikewaffles3689]

As an engineer, I imagined it was because of turbulence and flow losses but I never imagined pinhole corrosion was a problem. Thank you!

[@TimeSurfer206]

Copper is a lot softer than we think. Brass isn't that much better. It IS better, but...

[@ScottWConvid19]

I was taught to deburr the pipe. I only knew that it was the best way to mate the pipe to the fittings and never understood why the inside of the pipe needed it also. I didn't know that excess solder could cause erosive corrosion either. Thanks. I just found your channel and appreciate your work

[@Got2Learn]

Glad I could help!

[@1diggitech]

Yes learned the hard way didn't debur and one of the burrs after soldering and the shut off valves had a plastic ball (home depot shut off vs actual plumbing shop valve with a steel ball) put a hole in the ball water damaged a brand new rehab, in the middle of the winter valve failed due to my mistake and it cost me, alot.Good info.👍

[@Got2Learn]

Ouchhhh...that sucks.

[@georgemacdonald5282]

Good video, I'm not a professional but do a lot of this and that and i always debur the inside and outside of all different pipes, but its good to know the problems that it can cause if you dont, as a lot of us do things by the book not realising why were doing it, really appreciate the video.

[@lewellg]

Awesome video, it really demonstrates how important it is. I imagine that for a push connect fitting for water filter or sharkbite this is absolutely imperative, no matter if copper or plastic.

[@Got2Learn]

Exactly!!

[@smarshall110988]

The difference it really makes is minuscule

[@Got2Learn]

It's more of a long term thing.

[@sziltner]

This video needs to be sent to a bunch of the KZbin video plumbers that never deburr their copper cuts. And you know who you are plumbers and now your customers will be watching!

[@Got2Learn]

Absolute must hehe!

[@abuanihas3pazg149]

This is why I love this channel shows great visuals, Best wishes for all in these troubled times. Take care.

[@Got2Learn]

🙏🙏🙏

[@toastydevil]

Yes, this video clarified to me, a 16 year old highschool student who never wants to do plumbing, why this is very important, thank you

[@jtbtabimono]

Thank you for another excellent presentation. Important subject which doesn't get discussed enough, which you've covered it extremely well. Not only the methods and consequences but also tips on tools and their usage were very helpful. Thank you so much once again, you've done another great deed to the rest of the world!

[@Got2Learn]

Awesome comment, thank you so much !!!

[@rvvrn]

I kinda thought I knew the importance of deburring but just thought it was to ensure a solid union. Never would have thought the burrs could ultimately cause pins holes due to turbulence. great video!

[@Got2Learn]

🤘🤘🤘

[@SantaNMS]

Thank you for this video, GTL! I like your teaching style! You are very thorough, kind and patient in your approach!

[@Got2Learn]

That's so kind of you, thank you so much Steve, your the best!

[@chrisprobert6]

I'm only DIY but assumed that the cutter type you rotate around, closing in the cutter as you go, left a perfectly clean enough edge. Thank you now I know better

[@Got2Learn]

;)

[@mikehickey420]

this video is very well made, just learning how to do some simple plumbing and i see people ignoring this simple step all the time!

[@Got2Learn]

Yes, it's a very frequent mistake unfortunately.

[@pulporock]

I do a lot of copper pipe fittings, almost no plumbers seem to do deburring. I saw one plumber deburring the pipe, however when checking the inside pipe the lip was not completely removed. I use a metal counter sink drill bit in the drill. Helps when doing a lot and larger diameters. Once again great content.

[@Got2Learn]

Thanks, yeah unfortunately, it's not seen enough :(

[@mikejones6791]

I know for a fact that im the only Technician where i work that reams my copper tubing before installation which is crazy! Same goes for using an inspection mirror. Also having 2 containers of flux, one to solder and one to clean after soldering as you should never use one for both because it melts the brush and makes the flux dirty which causes leaks. These 3 reasons are why i have less than 10 callbacks a year and havent had a callback for a leaky solder joint in 5 years!

[@andrewalexander9492]

Unfortunately, workmanship and taking pride in your craft is becoming uncommon.

[@sarowie]

that is awesome. The tool you are using does the job nicely and clean and your examples of why it is important are simple, clear and easy to understand.

[@harrytinker2328]

The presence of excellence is usually found in the details!

[@Got2Learn]

Yes :)

[@ksoiha]

I know nothing about plumbing but it looks like KZbin decided it was time for me to learn about deburring. It was interesting. Thanks!

[@Got2Learn]

Thanks!!!

[@hashiramasenju6058]

Im a commercial new build plumber and I propress copper a lot and Im not going to lie, most of the time i dont debur the pipe but im going to buy the tool for it.

[@Got2Learn]

When doing propress, the pipe needs to be deburred both on the outside and inside, very important :)

[@hashiramasenju6058]

Yeah we always use grit cloth on the outside whether you are sweating or propressing but most of us didnt realize it was bad to not debur the inside

[@Got2Learn]

Yeah, that's the problem, it kind of disappeared but it still needs to be done.

[@cereberum7866]

Learned something new today and can chill for the rest of day. Thank you

[@tunafish3216]

I’m a retired machinist deburring was my life very important.

[@Got2Learn]

Great to hear some good, real feedback, thanks Tuna fish!!

[@tunafish3216]

Thanks

[@ajwilson605]

Walking through the shop you could tell the guy who didn't deburr his parts...by the band-aids on multiple fingers.....

[@Got2Learn]

🤣🤣🤣

[@robpet4424]

Best plumbing tips channel on KZbin !

[@Got2Learn]

Thank you so much Robert, I really appreciate it, share if you can, it helps so much!

[@hussssshie]

Had to redo all the main pipes in a house I was living in because of it. Take it seriously, installers. It seemed like someone was playing a trumpet somewhere in the house whenever a faucet was being used. Even the neighbors next to me could hear it.

[@jgt5642]

wow

[@charlesstidham2788]

Bored? It didnt make a difference unless there was metering device the pipe was going to. The corrosion crap is just that... crap. Haha been doing heat and air for forever and it does matter on refrigerant lines because of the metering devices. Water pipes are unaffected. This video acts like all piping is copper but most pipes that handle the tasks they are talking about are pvc and it doesn't burr like copper piping so it doesnt require reaming. Just more trade security. Lol

[@hussssshie]

@@charlesstidham2788 I dont know about you, but we use copper pipes. Not PVC, not multilayer, or anything like that. It totally made the difference and there was no more rattling, vibrations and banging. All the clamps became loose because of the vibrations, but tightening it didn't make any difference at all, just gave more bass to that noise. Burrs will never benefit your installation in any way, in any kind of installation, so why leave em? It only takes 5 seconds to deburr a pipe, and if you're soldering it is supposed to be a permanent installation. Unless you're after callbacks it doesn't make any sense

[@overcomer8217]

Thanks!

[@Got2Learn]

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[@Milosz_Ostrow]

Conventional pipe cutters don't leave a burr on the outside of metal pipes, because they incorporate a roller that smooths the burr down as the tool is rotated about the pipe. Only the inside burr needs to be removed.

[@misterlarryb]

G2L- Your videos are the best, and so far, this one on deburring is the best of the best! This is professional instruction! Narration is paced nicely, demos are great, comparisons of good and bad, before and after, cutaway views, animations, and explanations - just crazy excellent! And kept to a reasonable time. So I didn't try the file, but I tried the built-in reamer on my Reed TC1Q and that seemed small and hard to manipulate on 1/2" copper. Next I tried a pencil reamer, and without much practice it didn't work anywhere close as nice as in your video, maybe I can do better with a lot more practice. Then I tried a Husky inner/outer (barrel) reamer, and immediately got great results on the inside. But for the outside, the barrel didn't stay centered for me turning the barrel. What did work for me was to put the barrel tool on the floor (held between my shoes) and rotate the pipe (like a basic pencil sharpener), although not possible if the pipe is very long or already installed. Thanks again!

[@Got2Learn]

Wow, thank you so much for your great comment, I really appreciate it. Some people prefer a pemcil reamer some a cone reamer, it all comes down to preference and then practicing with it, good job Larry!

[@jeffm2787]

I completely agree with this, I have to wonder how long the burr will last vs it's impact on the pipe. i.e. the burr itself will get worn away over time.

[@robertopics]

the way i picture in my head is a sportscar (water) going full speed over a speed bump (burr) and the car's front bumper scraping the pavement (the pipe wall). the wear on the burr will be minimal compared to the damage to the wall.

[@ForeverAGh0st]

Great video, why you ream/deburr along chamfering the pipe are literally one of the first things I was studious about and learned right when I started plumbing. Of course as well as establing the habbit,I've only been at it a year and a half,have met plenty ignorant people who don't know why or even do it. I actually even got made fun for chamfering my 4" pvc,haha. I own that reed chamfering tool as well,along with the ridgid bottle reamers,they are amazing.

[@Got2Learn]

Most people think it's a waste of time, but it's not haha :)

[@ForeverAGh0st]

@@Got2Learn Defintely what I was told ,or I can quote by some of the ignorant plumbers I have met. I just responded, if they want to do half ass work,then so be it. Also great visualizations.

[@Got2Learn]

Thank you Ethan, really appreciate it :)

[@shawnkittle5406]

Dude, good job! Ive ben watchin every vid u put out an their geting better an better. Ur a pro man, keep up the good work!

[@Got2Learn]

Thank you so much Shawn, I really appreciate it man, don't forget to share if you can ;)))

[@crobinson6065]

Thank you! I've been looking at a few of your videos and they are concise and well-explained. Your animations/demonstrations really help to prove your point and helps us to understand. Very informative and well done! Much appreciated.

[@VexxitYT]

hi mr robinson

[@YZFR1mart]

Absolutely correct. . But at the same time pipe turbulence is everywhere in your home. From water passing by a tee to a gate valve to a reducer. . Water is a pain in the ass basically. That's why I wash with sand 🤣

[@Got2Learn]

LOLLLLL

[@NOFX0890]

Have you met Emma...

[@NOFX0890]

I am more into flinging Sir Harington.

[@NOFX0890]

I undertsand this is not about me though.

[@RAD6150]

I am never going to do my own plumbing, but this was incredibly informative. I like the idea of knowing what a contractor is or should be doing.

[@Got2Learn]

Glad it was helpful Robb, thanks!

[@jeremyscott6641]

I see the results of this all the time on recirculating lines, absolutely frustrating. Been changing the lines to pex with plastic fittings on the upstream edge to minimize erosion.

[@Got2Learn]

🤘

[@tomrogers9467]

Recirc lines are the worst - hot water running 24. - 7. Had lots of erosion and corrosion in my commercial units. Especially when the contractor cheats and runs schedule M instead of K. (The M has the thinnest wall, K the thickest.).

[@borealmat1889]

it's amazing how detailed your videos are made, thanks dude

[@Got2Learn]

Thank you VERY much man, really appreciate it!!!

[@enriquecastellon6524]

This was all explained to me by an in house engineer at work 20 years ago. Just like this.

[@Got2Learn]

Awesome man, thanks Enrique!

[@ralphpomm4943]

I did not know this. Thank very much for all your videos. It all totally makes sense

[@Got2Learn]

👌👌👌🤗🤗🤗

[@jamespeyton9144]

Learned some very important info thanks to this video.

[@Got2Learn]

You are welcome!!

[@Doctrtony]

I always learn a lot from this channel. I always just cut the pipe with little half turns at a time. Always cuts slower but usually leaves just a bit behind I usually hit with some sand paper

[@Got2Learn]

Right on!

[@con6951]

Great video, I now carry a reamer pen next to my pencils in my pocket and I can’t go without it 💪

[@Got2Learn]

Good job Con ;)

[@tomrogers9467]

@@Got2Learn (But he still shreds the paper he’s writing on most of the time. Wrong ‘pencil”!

[@rec0n3r]

Thanks for sharing. Now i know why my old copper pipes have pin hole leaks. Luckily, as all my pipes were outside and visible, I was able to fix it with some soldering.

[@Got2Learn]

Glad to help man, thanks for commenting!

[@TheSonorousG]

Something I’d never done and I’m sure I’ll have pinholes before long. Dad taught me most things but didn’t get this one sadly.

[@Got2Learn]

👌

[@joshwokojance3790]

Get a piece of pipe and some elbows and a cap. Then a torch and some solder and flux. Practice by making a J shape with two elbows and cap the short part. Place it in a bucket of water and blow into the pipe and look for bubbles. It’s not as hard as you think to teach yourself a new skill.

[@lantrick]

Same here. I plumbed my upstairs bath without deburring anything about 20 years ago. I guess it's a ticking time bomb now...

[@victoryfirst2878]

You would be surprised at the number of so called plumber who do not deburr the pipes. I have repaired so many pin hole pipes that if I would have a dollar I would get rich. The lazy plumbers will demand top dollar for a job done half ASS. It is refreshing that you have covered this topic of a true craftsman. I can tell you that I have a reamer used in the machine shop that reams the outer and inter in about three seconds with a perfect radius on both sides. Perfection just like a craftsman. Wish all plumbers would be forced to do what you are showing. Good day.

[@Got2Learn]

Yes I know, it's a lost art today :(

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@Got2Learn But copper is still the best bang for the buck.

[@Got2Learn]

Sure thing!

[@victoryfirst2878]

@@Got2Learn Please keep up the great work.

[@victoryfirst2878]

Copper is still the best way to deliver water and has a cleaning effect through a chemical reaction. Except if you have sulfated water then the big fat NO. Will dissolve the pipe for sure. Keep on making videos for us all to see and learn too.

[@ralanham76]

I almost never do plumbing, but I will remember this

[@Got2Learn]

Yes of course, share it with your friends too cuz it's really important.

[@vincentlok8894]

Hey Got2Learn, I really appreciate your helpful videos and I must say they are filmed very expertly! The closeups are useful and clear!

[@Got2Learn]

Hey Vincent, glad you appreciated it, I have a lot more to come, stay tuned!

[@NakataQenKByo]

Como siempre, un excelente video, con muy buena informacion y con los ejemplos perfectos para cada punto que estas explicando. Muchas Gracias.

[@Got2Learn]

Gracias!!

[@NakataQenKByo]

@@Got2Learn no se si comprendes español o no, pero videos como los que haces en tu canal hacen falta en mi idioma. Yo hablo y comprendo bien ingles pero aqui en California hay muchos que estan en el oficio que no lo hacen y al momento de que les enseño tus videos no comprenden todo lo que explicas en ellos por la barrera del idioma. Maybe creating a channel like the one you have but in Spanish would help a lot. Let me know what you think.

[@Got2Learn]

Me encantaría hablar español pero no sé cómo, ¿me ayudarían los subtítulos? Si es así, alguien tendría que hacerlos por mí :(

[@HtorneDK]

Good video, I work in IT Research - I will never ever use this for anything. But could not resist see it to the end. Good video :D

[@Got2Learn]

thanks man!

[@guguigugu]

you should see the HVAC "experts" in my country. none of them know anything about copper piping, and will try to convince you that it is perfectly normal for a split air conditioner to lose most of its coolant (and therefore capacity) within 5-6 years. of course, they will offer to refill it for a "small" fee. a very nice customer scam and enviromental damage combo.

[@bobbytafoya13]

How do you ream existing copper tubing after it’s been cut, when it’s in a vertical position?

[@bobbytafoya13]

I’m just afraid of small shavings going back down the tubing

[@Got2Learn]

Hold the shard with one hand, team with the other.

[@bobbytafoya13]

@@Got2Learn yea but the pipe is coming up out the roof and it’s only 3/8” copper tubing

[@Got2Learn]

@@bobbytafoya13 what's the problem?

[@deant876]

Good explanation. When I was learning pipe welding you would fail the test if you have to much reinforcement. The goal was 1/16" to 1/8" (max). But the reasoning is the same, turbulence and back pressure

[@billb.950]

I had all my copper pipe extrude polished to a 10 micro finish. I'm hoping to increase my pressure and flow as it passes through the pipe. I should get over 50 years of life out of it. I will be eating a dirt sandwich by then but at least water will be flowing nice and smooth through those pipes!

[@robertgarrett7007]

Great job. You have went the extra mile. One point on the increased pressure and flow. I have read that pressure and flow do not increase on a horizontal pipe because of the friction of the liquid rubbing on the walls of the pipe as it is flowing (this would not be noticeable except on a very long run of pipe). On the other hand, flow and pressure of the liquid will increase on a pipe that is dropping in elevation because of gravity or head pressure. I understand that the pressure will increase .433 PSI per 12” of elevation drop. Or 4.33 PSI per 10’ of drop or 43.3 PSI per 100’ of elevation drop and so on. Just some info I’ve read about piping from years ago.

[@dariuskohler251]

I only watched soldering videos to change my guitar pickups, now youtube decided that i shall install new pipes for my bathroom. I can't argue with that.

[@Got2Learn]

😆😆😆

[@sindento1942]

While they're at it clean the flux off after soldering,it turns the area around the joints green,look in your own house,it's a good bet you'll find green joints,they will rot eventually.Another annoyance is seeing copper pipes running through walls without being sleeved or wrapped,another point where corrosion can strike.It's all done for speed,many can't be bothered to do a good job.

[@Got2Learn]

Good ones, thanks!

[@michaelfairchild]

Not much of a plumber, but as a PC builder who also build custom watercooling deburr is also required in there. Best 0.5cm at 45 degree angle and also inside. Both for flow and not damaging one of the o-rings in the fittings.

[@Got2Learn]

Yes, I did my own water cooling too, it's a must ;)

[@thinklikeido]

Bernoulli would be proud of you! Good video.

[@Got2Learn]

Hehe thanks man ;)

[@nightrazer85]

Thanks. Hopefully I will find an application for this in the near future. Less noise = happy me. Less problems down the line, even better 👍. Could be useful in several applications from cars, radiators, plumbing and more. Quick and dirty fixes becomes a headache later on.

[@charlesmooreiii9649]

this explains a lot of questions thx for sharing.

[@Got2Learn]

Glad it did, thanks for the comment Charles :)

[@Paladin_of_Justice]

I fought tooth and nail on a 1/2 inch section of copper pipe going to a spigot under my bedroom floor that had two 90° angles leading out through foundation. 4 times I wiggled my fat butt down under there due to pin hole leaks . And each time lasted about a month . I gave up and used a section of pex pipe and fittings. Granted it has not failed yet but I was sure it was due to acidic or alkaline water chemically eroding the copper. We do have very hard water but only this section consistently failed. Now that I've seen this video it explains it . I fixed it 4 times and then by a professional plumber twice. He said it was due to freeze burst . But right around the pinhole it was thin not cracked or bulged. Anyways I really learned something here . I only wish I had seen this sooner 😪 Great video !

[@chaosordeal294]

Yes, you need to de-burr, but when you cut a pipe only a tiny bit of the material is displaced inward or outward -- mostly it's just parted.

[@littlejackalo5326]

Annnnd? The material is displaced inward, evident by the burr. Who cares how much.

[@larryzdanis5377]

Awesome video.. I recently was attending a trade school plumbing class where I tried to teach students to debur the pipe, and the plumber said to me.. 'We don't debur'.. I said nothing, as to avoid disunity and an argument in front of student and teachers (& otherwise, I honestly think the guy is probably an above-average plumber), but it irked me to see bad practice being taught.. I witnessed such pinholes likely created by a lack of deburring wreak havoc on my CA apartment complex's circulating hot-water loop.. There is one additional advantage to deburring (that may not have been mentioned)- as long as you remove the post-debur "shavings", deburring reduces the likelihood of slivers breaking free and damaging plumbing fixture o-ring downstream.

[@richardhaddock5660]

I am a plumber and not deburring the pipe after you cut it with tubing cutters is against code, the inspector could possibly make you remove the install if he wanted to,you must deburr and ream the pipe to its full inside diameter so as not to affect the flow of water

[@redmunchkin]

I use a Dremel with a sanding drum, super fast.

[@Got2Learn]

Yep, that's a good alternative :) Thanks redmunchkin :)

[@MyGreenNest]

Great idea

[@acemechanical275]

Been plumbing for 30 years, been in business 15 years. Sweated literally tens of thousands of joints, have never “deburred” copper tubing. Never had a problem.

[@beotheguitarist]

Great video as usual!

[@Got2Learn]

Thanks so much :) don't forget to share :)

[@rossadew4033]

Videos like this are the very best of what internet has to offer. True wealth of any society are people with good skills and know how. Thank you very much for sharing G2L! I didn't quite get that very last bit... Is it that the glue gets pushed all the way towards the end resulting a bad joint? The setup needs good deburring to avoid this? Does the glue need to be applied differently?

[@Got2Learn]

Yes, the outside of the pipe needs a chamfer so that the glue isn't pushed back, that would result in a dry joint as weird as it sounds 👌

[@arturgukasi8730]

Great video and great information!

[@Got2Learn]

Thank you Artur ;)

[@samwoo9993]

Very well explained and great visual simulations too. Great job

[@Got2Learn]

🙏🙏🙏

[@DragonBuilds]

Reamers are only a few dollars for a basic one and it solves all these issues. Only cheap handymen don't deburr.

[@Got2Learn]

Exactly, but people are lazy lol

[@DragonBuilds]

@@Got2Learn Yes. My grandmother's flooring contractor stole my tools because they forgot their own. If professionals will do that, forgetting to deburr must be common.

[@Got2Learn]

It sure is :(

[@robertlaw4073]

Thanks for explaining why you "need" to bevel the outside edge -- I don't use sharke-bites, so just use the emory paper to smooth it because that's what how I was taught, but I guess I don't need to do that. One other tool you can use to ream the inside of the pipes is a stepped drill bit. But that really only works out well if you have an assistant doing the cutting / reaming on a big job. Otherwise it's just easier to use the reamer on the cutter so you don't have to change tools.

[@Got2Learn]

My pleasure Robert!! 🙏

[@WillPower311]

It has shown me why deburring is important

[@Got2Learn]

It is, very, as once the pipe is assembled, it can't be undone after.

[@ZoruaZorroark]

when i was helping with cleanup at a construction site, i have always seen the workers use deburring tools on pipes and now i know

[@HoneyBadgerVideos]

You never know when you will need to correct your plumber :)

[@deadspace2121]

Ive been in HVACR for about a year (Yes I’m an apprentice still). And I will say, Deburring isn’t dead, not totally. Usually bigger boiler jobs, usually involving wall hung gas boilers or just a new oil run boiler, we measure, de-burr before you clean the pipe, then solder. We usually use Acetylene. Interesting to see how the plumbers do it 👍🏻💪🏻

[@mercinc2926]

In HVACR its very important to deburr and you cant let any of the burrs stay in the pipe otherwise it can clog valves and coils in refrigerant systems

[@deadspace2121]

@@mercinc2926 we use nitrogen to purge out any excess solder and de burring shavings. It makes the job longer but hey.. mo money and better functionality

[@charliejackson7982]

I don’t know a single professional that deburs in the uk we only debur steel

[@Got2Learn]

You are supposed to on every pipe!

[@charliejackson7982]

Got2Learn I understand this I literally own a gerberit deburer and reamer just don’t use it unless it’s mapress

[@Wesley-gz4if]

Me either, i dont even think it's in our regs to be honest, it's certainly not something inspected in the uk. And the only time I've seen pinholes myself is on the actual fitting, I've never seen it cause problems even on commercial installs

[@littlejackalo5326]

That's the craziest thing I've ever heard.

[@charliejackson7982]

@@Wesley-gz4if I only do commercial and never had problems

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

When I was a young lad, the combo too, was not available. I always used sand paper for the outside and the deburring tool attached to the cutter for the inside. Very good explanation regarding the erosion it can cause. A lot of people don’t realize how soft copper really is. Great vid as usual mon ami!

[@Got2Learn]

Sa me fait plaisir mon chère :)

[@Viper6-MotoVlogger]

Got2Learn 😁👍

[@YeeeeeHaaaaa]

Most of the simplest craftsmanship has gone downhill as time goes on. Everyone is just worried about getting the job done fast. If your fast and precise then your badass. If your fast and lack in quality then you a useless POS. “Any job worth doing is worth doing right” “No one has TIME to do it right but they have plenty of TIME to go back and fix it.” 🙄😜🤷‍♂️

[@Got2Learn]

Well said trent.

[@YeeeeeHaaaaa]

Got2Learn Thanks. I had good teachers coming up as an Industrial Ironworker/Fabricator in the chemical plants and refineries around the Houston area. I was taught by old school all the way. Work your ass off for them as a helper coming up then they teach you what they know. If your lazy then they won’t pass it down. 👍

[@Got2Learn]

Exactly!

[@buggsc6898]

Yea I've noticed that most the craftsmanship is gone. No one has pride in what they do anymore it makes me wanna get out of plumbing honestly. But it's all I know an I dont even know it I'm not a journeymen but j know enough to make a living