First Time REACTING to EPIC The Musical | Not Sorry For Loving You x Dangerous | REACTION

[@GOTGames]

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[@gamechanger8294]

Something interesting that not many people caught in Dangerous is the missing piece of chorus. After Odysseus sings "Because I have one goal in mind...", it was supposed to be followed up by his crew singing "Make it back alive to our homeland.". But since all of his men are dead, that brief silence is what we are left with. Edit: For those who don't get what I'm talking about, go back to the song "Full Speed Ahead".

[@werlords2573]

thank you for mentioning this, so many people miss the detail

[@speedy01247]

​@@werlords2573 How? it fits the saying "the silence is deafening" super well. Like the blatant lack of sound and the knowledge of what it means hits hard every time for me.

[@the0neBoio]

​@@speedy01247 I think lots of people don't pay attention, like there are people who make EPIC The Musical reaction videos but the only leitmotif they recognise is Full Speed Ahead and Open Arms. Mortius and Casper reactions are a rare luxury good

[@GOTGames]

Oh 😮

[@nachtlicht_0]

My dude, almost everybody caught that shit😭 what're you talking about

[@Giganotus]

for clarity on what Calypso in the original Odyssey was like. In polite terms, she forced herself on him. For 7 years. So it's understandable that Epic: The Musical went the more tame and sympathetic route with her and had her more just be a very pushy flirt. Which still isn't great, but it's better than what Calypso did in the source material.

[@xxabsolitexxx7747]

100% but I can sympathise with her. Given everything that’s happen to her she’s kinda gone crazy from being on that island for so long especially with the You know what seeds growing around her on that island which are actually horrifying. I’ll try and say that she gets away with this one more because she doesn’t know what she’s doing is wrong. Don’t get me wrong she’s wrong for what she did she’s just not wrong for not knowing it was wrong.

[@grafikpapst]

I think what makes me give this version of Calypso "the pass", is that she is very much a broken person, in a similar way that Ody is. And he clearly understands that. She isnt acting out of malice or even just greed and lust - she is deeply lonely without a reference frame for what a healthy friendship lets alone a romantic relationship would look like. She is desperate in a way how Ody is desperate to get back home to Penelope.

[@MinecraftTNT64]

Espeshally because Calypso can let people leave her Island whenever she wants, But she is so lonely that she rarely ever does. Disgusting

[@haraken3119]

@@grafikpapst Yeah I agree and is why I don't think Odysseus wished to be cruel he said that he loved her but not in a romantic way as with years he probably figured out that much and even empathized with her and her situation. Like he doesn't necessarily hate her by the end but decided to stay decisive and ripped the band-aid decisively in hope that it is for the best for himself and for her too so she doesn't endlessly hang on her feelings for Odysseus but also giving Calypso that she is not despised by the end of it as she did save Odysseus from ending himself.

[@CarolineForest]

@@MinecraftTNT64 She cant. Only Zeus can. Its a reason Athena had to go to him instead of talking to Calypso herself. Zeus probably found it hilarious to put him there with her. Nobody can come or go, its HER spell as in its made to trap her in. But she did keep him with her on the island and didn't leave him alone...

[@dandegoat]

Just as a reminder... Poseidon's storm has prevented him from getting home since the Ocean saga. Aeolus helped him once by gathering all the storm in a bag, but Eury released it. That storm is now contained in the bag again, clearing the way for his journey home.

[@GOTGames]

Ahhhhh 😮

[@peachyytown]

omg thank you for reacting to my animatic!! im so glad you liked it :D

[@GOTGames]

You are incredibly talented!! Thank you for bringing the story to life in such a beautiful way! 🙏❤

[@beckenfuggle644]

Jorge and the cast are in Ithaca atm (In Greece) for the final Saga release He said they wanted to do something special for it and to do the final live stream in Ithaca for the Ithaca Saga is SO exciting

[@anonyousperson]

I honestly loved seeing them basically recreating the scenes and acting them out for the previous sagas

[@somedudewatchintv5297]

Epic's version of Calypso is very tame. She was cursed to stay on the island since childhood and clearly deals with issues of arrested development. When she says "i'm not sorry for loving you" I take it to mean she isn't sorry for trying to reach out for happiness when the chance presented itself even when it wasn't "proper" so to speak to go after a married man who wants to leave. Original Odysseus is a full grown adult that _apes him daily in between sessions of him crying on the shore facing home. She didn't care and was actively trapping him with magic.

[@BlackCover95]

Original *Calypso is a full grown

[@GOTGames]

Woah 😮

[@somedudewatchintv5297]

I just realized I wrote Odysseus instead of Calypso on the 2nd part of that.

[@JamTheToasty]

@@somedudewatchintv5297you know you can edit your comment, right?

[@somedudewatchintv5297]

@JamTheToasty I didn't want to get rid of the mark which editing it would do.

[@shellyappiah]

12:29 One of the winions who does the backing vocals is called the Princess Winion and is voiced by Jorge’s sister So his mum, his dad and his sister has been in Epic The next saga comes out on Christmas called the Ithaca saga and it will also be 5 songs so 3 more Saturdays to go

[@GOTGames]

I love how involved the family are in creating this story as well ❤

[@TheParagade]

​@@GOTGames There's another super interesting layer there too that I don't know if people commented on during God Games! Jorge originally went to school to be a doctor, but switched majors after joining a theatre production and falling in love with the craft. This caused a huge rift between him and his dad who did not approve of it AT ALL. Jorge actually wrote a musical about the experience called My Heart Says Go. Since then however, their relation has mended, and Jorge's dad even built the sound booth that Jorge uses to record! This is what inspired Jorge to cast him as Hephestus, the god of the Forge!

[@scp-049]

His Fiancé was Circe if Im not wrong

[@carlycchapman]

@@scp-049 I don't know for sure, but I think he and Talya (VA of Circe) are just dating. Unless I missed something recently

[@scp-049]

@carlycchapman I'm at least pretty sure they're engaged. Take that with a grain of salt, though, because I don't know for sure

[@cloudyheather3770]

I'm so happy you reacted to Zieru's animatic!! It's so good and well made.

[@haraken3119]

I think so too, for me this version feels like the most defined that suits the Epic Story the best for me.

[@crowandcherries]

Yeah! Zieru absolutely CRUSHED it.

[@dnaught535]

It's just so FLUID it's amazing

[@nyxen07]

I’ve never seen it until now but omg it’s so fricken smooth

[@Sushangsushi]

Real it’s my fav dangerous animatic

[@kennethmorgan8795]

Everyone loves Hermes... like almost anytime he shows up anywhere. Man lives for the vibes, he was the only god that you could safely accept a gift from because he literally just thought giving it to you would make things more interesting.

[@JustKels]

YES, my FAVOURITE Dangerous animatic!! For Charybdis, please consider reacting to Nuvi’s! It’s brand new and it’s amazing. It and Chaebony’s are so close to each other for me, either would be great.

[@juanpablogonzalez8528]

I think your assesment of Calypso is quite accurate, the dark part is that she will keep you in her island by force, but if you put yourself in her shoes, being trapped alone there forever, i can understand why she would be like that

[@felixhenson9926]

I think also in Epic i always got the impression that Odysseus wound up on Calypso's island as a punishment by Zeus. Mostly bc if it were just that Calypso were keeping him there, Athena could've just gone and fought for him herself, but nah, she went to Zeus and he said "To untie apprehensions that were placed on that Greek" apprehend something = to hold it back. "So you want me to to remove his punishment?" basically.

[@GOTGames]

Definitely this version from what you've all said, she isn't good but you can understand why

[@juanpablogonzalez8528]

@@felixhenson9926 now that you mention it, i haven't noticed that detail, it makes a lot of sense

[@sharinganwolf2784]

"I love you...but not in the way that you want me to." STILL BREAKS ME, AND I'VE HEARD THIS SONG LIKE A HUNDRED TIMES ALREADY.

[@GOTGames]

😢

[@anareaty]

Just to be clear - the bag here is not given to Odysseus to mess with him again or something, it is actually a tool that can contain the storm created by Poseidon, the same storm that prevented him from going to Itaka right away. So as long as Ody has the bag closed he can travel the sea without disturbance. I would argue that on the surface this song is mostly about encouraging, but if you think about it, Hermes actually also provided some practical help as well. Alone on his tiny raft Ody would probably never reach Itaka: he will be either lost at sea or drown when the sligthest waves started. But Hermes here gave him a guidance and a bag ensured a good weather.

[@ChrispyMmBacon]

Calypso is such a nuanced character. She caused Odysseus great harm, that cannot be ignored. She also has her own story. She is both victim and abuser and she is a fascinating character to study

[@mopa3141]

13:14 🥲😭 why do I feel like crying? I fear the next 3 songs will either hype him up even more, break him for good, or both in this order...

[@TheIrishMidas]

With Ithaca Saga right around the corner for you and so few animatics for it with it being new, I’d suggest checking out the watch party the cast and crew put out. Most of the cast travelled to the ACTUAL island of Ithaca to watch the entirety of EPIC, up to and including the Ithaca Saga. It’s a wonderful experience seeing the cast mess with each other during the old Sagas, and they included thank you letters from those that couldn’t make it to the event. The video is titled “EPIC: The Ithaca Saga PREMIERE PARTY (Full listen-through of EPIC: The Musical)” over on Jorge Rivera-Herrans channel.

[@crowandcherries]

I love Hermes so much. He's only in Epic twice, but he's such a character and both of his songs are insanely catchy. I am SO excited for the reaction to the final three of this saga! It'll be fun.

[@felipearzuaga4224]

For the next 3 my personal recommendations are: 1. Charybdis || Epic the musical animatic (by chaebony) 2. Get In The Water || EPIC: The Musical Animation (by Laritamiauu) 3. Six Hundred Strike [EPIC: The Musical] Full Animatic (by Duvetbox)

[@lazulax]

This!! Laritamiauu animatic for Get In The Water is perfect!

[@thegodofthesea-g4n]

bruh Duvet box's is great and all but bruh, GWENDY 600 STRIKE

[@lizlilliman3644]

Sorry as much as I like gwendys I prefer duvet boxes it makes so much more sense with the story

[@bendiebinenapple2986]

i dont like duvetbox version much because it strays so far away from the original vision Jorge had for that song, its well animated but for the vision that was intended Gwendy does a much better job (plus was the artist Jorge actually commissioned for that song in his livestream) and plus its also full colour which is an added bonus

[@pboomerang]

Have you watched Get In the Water by NiNe?

[@AlexSilverCat]

Oh, I hope you react to the livestream for the Ithaca saga- if not, I'll be happy to see you when the wonderful animatic artists finish their work! Now I'm really looking forward to you seeing the end of the Vengeance Saga!

[@beckenfuggle644]

I love your reactions so much. You get hit with the same emotions we all do and it’s like watching it for the first time again watching you

[@GOTGames]

❤

[@AppleJaxx4U]

I HIGHLY recommend checking out Jorge's livestream VOD from his KZbin channel for the last few songs of this saga. Not only do you get to see a variety of content creators who have made animatics for the musical, but Jorge gave them his vision of how he wanted certain scenes to go! It is by far my favorite way to watch the end of the saga and I couldn't recommend it enough. Been loving going through this emotional journey with you! Excited for the next video!!

[@justsomeweeb8031]

“You think anything would ever possess me to open this bag? Get the hell out of here. Hahahaha.” We’ll see what happens next time mate 😉😂

[@showstopper1195]

Not Sorry For Loving You: Yay! Time to watch Luke cry like a baby. Dangerous: And now for something completely different. The next set is fantastic. Can't wait to see what you think of Odysseus' last leg home.

[@icemagiciangh]

I love Zieru’s version, but I also recommend to check out Ximena Natzel’s. It’s like her Hermes, which started the design of having his helmet cast a shadow, and Odysseus came full circle since Wouldn’t You Like.

[@Nanao253]

I love your reactions so much! Love when people show emotions so thank you for taking us with you on this journey. Can’t wait for next Saturday!

[@icemagiciangh]

These are what I’d recommend for the last three: Charybdis- chaebony Get in the Water- if you can, the livestream version. If not, NiNE’s. 600 Strike- DuvetBox (Side note- if you watch Laritamiauu’s Get in the Water, know that the ending will not line up with 600 Strike animatics because it deviates _very far_ from the story. Good animation, but it will be confusing if you haven’t seen the livestream).

[@yinisettsanchezbohorquez]

Agree... I just saw both and DuvetBox is more intense

[@SkyDivided7385]

I wouldn’t say that Ody was lying to Calypso when he said he loved her, I think it’s just as he said, he appreciates her in a different way to what she wants, at least in epic he does

[@phoenix_Talaria]

She literally asked him to lie to her right before though so.... It's definitely possible

[@anonymous-us1bk]

I love that the main point of calypso's song was that she was trying to emotionally manipulate ody into staying on the island but it works more on the audience than him XD

[@pboomerang]

@@anonymous-us1bk thats why i love Epic, you end up understanding both sides always. From the Cyclops, to Poseidon, to Circe and Calypso and even Scylla you end up understanding their own perspective and why they do things. They may do evil and bad things but its not just for the sake of villainy.

[@DrowsyKodi]

Not really she is just begging him to stay Jorge said she’s just a kid in a grown woman’s body she doesn’t have the emotional intelligence to understand why he doesn’t love and want her and why he won’t stay

[@omarsalem1219]

No that wasn't the point of the song at all you are the one who misinterpreted it

[@animepianistpalmer6670]

@@omarsalem1219 While it wasn't the original intent of the song the best part about art is it can be interpreted through many lenses. Take for instance Jorge's six hundred strikes I for one don't like his interpretation of it as it undoes most of the 'realism' in the musical. I like some of the animatic interpretations of it. I'm a lover of the original Odyssey so I interpret most of Jorge's music through that lens. Everyone sees the lotus eaters as weird Koala creatures but in my head they are the same drug addicted men they originally were and it still works fine.

[@GOTGames]

True 😂

[@shadowwxlfgaming]

The LAST Saga releases on Christmas 😭😭 Its called the Ithaca saga but we're hoping for a 'Cut saga' which might have all the cut songs (jorge stated that there were over 40 cut songs!)

[@RainStartsFalling]

I absolutely adore your epic reactions ❤ your honest and raw empathy is so gripping!

[@GOTGames]

❤

[@flameborn5347]

Dangerous is also one of my favorite songs in Epic because I can just jam out to it whenever

[@GOTGames]

💯

[@buggymah]

Wow you’re almost caught up! Ithaca saga coming out on Christmas. If you finish up listening to the vengeance saga within the next few days you can react to the Ithaca saga on the livestream!!

[@RinSyuveil]

2 things with Dangerous 1 you missed the heart breaking moment of silence because normally that part would have been sung by the crew as a call and response but the crew is all gone so there’s nobody to respond 2 the part of “when danger greets you with a smile” was not ment for a random cyclops that was that animator adding that the real warning Hermes gave was about the next song that is the true warning of “when danger greets you with a smile”

[@relaxingvibes7035]

I'm just glad that the fandom FINALLY understood that Epic Calypso is not Odyssey Calypso. I hated the comments under the animatics that argue that Calypso graped our boy Ody when there was not one single mention of this in the song. When in this version its a girl who fell inlove and is trying to make them fall in love with her (and failing) like some normal girls do

[@dreamcollider7006]

He said wrappong it up soon, but who's gonna tell him the next saga comes out on Christmas day!

[@GOTGames]

😮

[@Ella16360]

For the next three I recommend: Chaebony for Charybdis NiNE for Get In The Water Duvetbox for 600 Strike Awesome reaction as always!!

[@franx7471]

Calypso's curse of faling in love is a Percy Jackson thing (great book that talk about greeks myths being real in this modern time). On the original you could say that most than a curse to fall in love is a natural reaction to feel attracted to the only man you ever knew and not knowing how to handle it, ending sadly (in the book, implied) on SA Odyseuss, in Epic, Calypso is like a little girl, she dosent know nothing because she spend thousand of years alone, that's why she overstep "if I push you, if I came too strong". She isn't apologising, only if she do that, she dosent accept she did it, she still blame him. I feel so sad about her but also I hate her

[@PupGamer93]

PJO Calypso can eat it

[@michaelortiz1561]

It's worse cause she's not.trapped not.is she alone in the original she's just a horrible person

[@phoenix_Talaria]

In the book it's not even implied "unwilling lover alongside lover all too willing" is just one line out of multiple

[@xxmister.hiraethxx]

I'm not sure if everyone has said it, but in "I'm Not Sorry For Loving You", Calypso is supposed to be manipulating Odysseus. It's a last ditch effort to bully him into loving her. Keep in mind, if people knew they were being manipulated, it wouldn't work.

[@TheDisappointingGamer]

Dude the reason i love your reactions is becuse like me you feel the raw emotion from this whole story, its just great to see and i have wacthed evey reaction i can fined and you are one of my favourites . Much love man

[@dataweaver]

The Epic songs use the "Peter and the Wolf" technique of associating a musical instrument with each major character; Ody's instrument is the acoustic guitar. As well, all of the gods' instruments are electrical, while the mortals' instruments… aren't.

[@potofle]

I'm glad you'll be watching the last songs together, they really do flow into each other! The livestream for the last saga goes up tonight, so there should be animatics for the final songs soon-ish! We might be waiting (waiting) until mid-January or later for full animatics depending on how busy creators are over the new year, but I'm sure it'll be worth it, as always. Glad you're enjoying Epic so much and hope that more reactors get into it once the final saga drops! (Assuming they don't attach a sub challenge to it like Danny Motta 😭)

[@desirqble]

I’m so happy to have experienced this journey with you. Your reactions are so amazing and I have enjoyed them so much I’ve rewatched them! ❤

[@boopsy4439]

How love how empathetic you are! Especially with this series. I cried so many times during this lol, and Calypso got a lot of hate (it's rude to keep people as lovers against their will), but I did feel really bad for her, too

[@anonyousperson]

I honestly feel like song 37, 39, and 40 will be very emotional for him

[@kirenmelissant4199]

Song 40 is gonna break him (I still almost cry myself every time I re-listen to it)

[@anonyousperson]

@kirenmelissant4199 honestly I find both songs 39 and 40 to be emotional with song 39 being one of the songs I anticipated the most right behind 38

[@kirenmelissant4199]

@@anonyousperson 39 is also super emotional, Telemachus finally being with his dad. But song 40, it makes me feel extra emotional . Idk if it's because it's the final song, or if it's Penelope still loving odi after everything. But man, it hits me hard every time

[@autumnruby8424]

AHHHH!!!! Dangerous is my favorite song in the entire show and Zieru's animatic might be my favorite animatic in the entire show, I'm so glad that's the one you chose to watch!

[@qrow2255]

I HAD JUST FINISHED WATCHING YOUR OTHER REACTIONS! I’m so happy I caught this one!

[@pigeonpiupiu]

10:29 you should watch Jorge's inspiration for making song for Hermes. He basically playing with his lightbulb settings and it accidentally turned disco rgb colour, and then he got inpired by it. So hermes vibe is just 80's sythwave. It's just funny because Jorge can't get to decide what hermes song would sound like, Hermes decide what he sounds like.

[@michaelmcdoesntexist.]

12:22 the winion with the bow is voiced by Jorge's sister

[@hxjiq]

little did he know that we'll have five more songs the time that he finishes this saga

[@nicco7518]

Jorge's sister was in Dangerous, vocingin what is known as "princess winion", the name is due to how in the live-stream animatic there's one winion dressed like a princess, dancing her little heart out after the song section about keeping the bag closed, while Ody is singing about danger being his friend.

[@RinSolo]

ALSO -- I'm one of those people who are like you, here for the story. This IS one of my favorite stories of all time at this point. It's just phenomenal in its depth and nuance and scape and it's absolutely incredible that it was able to be told through songs. Dangerous is one of my favorite songs too (the whole Vengeance saga is my favorite saga tbh.) Fun fact, Hermes is Odysseus' great grandfather! So he has even more reasons to help him! Although I would like to add, Odysseus didn't actually throw the bag overboard, just somewhere on the raft. It's definitely not metaphorical. He needs to hold onto the bag so as to keep the storm contained which otherwise would keep him from going home because, well, Poseidon is not one of those gods who had a change of heart, unfortunately 😔 Odysseus' attitude in this song is so fun because he's for the first time not overthinking morality anymore or trying to act a certain way (merciful, ruthless, etc.) Hermes is telling him, paraphrased, "Just be all of yourself man," and that's what he does. Mercy, ruthlessness, cunning, experience, kindness, wisdom, determination, ... everything that he is, he will use now. And well, where he's going, he will need it... 😢

[@PleaseElaborate]

I love how the way she delivers "if you HhaTe. Mmeee." somehow manages to communicate sadness, remorse, anger, and contempt all at once.

[@BlackCover95]

I don’t really have a preference for “Charybdis”, but for “Get In The Water, I recommend MessyMoonMess, and for “Six Hundred Strike” I strongly recommend Duvetbox.

[@SashaDisAster]

Ohohoho this was great! Dangerous is an amazing song! I'm really looking forward to the next few songs too, they're my favorite in all of the epic. Your reactions always make me happy ^w^

[@5anticot782]

Yes, soon the last saga will be released, a bit sad that epic is gonna end 😔.... But it’s also incredibly exciting to finally see this project coming to its full completion!!!😜😜😜

[@jolan1997]

honestly, your reactions to epic the musical are just genuinely awesome, i look forward to them every Saturday, i wish i could like them more than once haha

[@GOTGames]

❤❤❤

[@jordanwheeler27]

First time commenter - Love your stuff!! Thank you so much for reacting to Epic the Musical. Your reactions are up there with Mortius as my favorite for this. Just a bit of advice for someone catching up to the release: Give the fan animatics about 1 1/2 weeks for the entire album to be on KZbin. The animatic community for Epic has insane speed.

[@GOTGames]

❤

[@karma_pup]

I do so love your reactions. I look forward to every one of your EPIC videos

[@pandoamessi4079]

Ohohooo, i CAN'T WAIT for the next video!! And you are absolutely right, Dangerous is a whole dam VIBE!

[@speedy01247]

Note Calypso didn't actually apologize. (If i hurt you or if I came on to strong)

[@js66613]

Not actually apologising for things is something that both she and Ody have in common. xD

[@nicco7518]

OH! BTW, if you want more to react to after Epic is finished (the Ithaca saga is the last), you can always check out the artists voicing the various characters. Teegan (Athena), Steve (Poseidon), Luke (Zeus), Troy (Hermes), etc all have their own original songs on youtube apart from their Epic reportoir as far as I know (Troy also dresses and acts as Hermes for a few of his shorts where he advertises is songs). And the voice of Aphrodite even has a music video called "Gladiators", where Jorge also has a role.

[@GFel]

One super heartbreaking thing about Not Sorry For Loving You is that the chorus Calypso is summoning for the backing vocals are *only* hers and Odysseus's voices-- because those are the voices she knows.

[@Inshot2195]

Yes new saga last five songs is exactly on Christmas Day and it will be the final saga not sure if you want to wait longer for people to make animatics for the new songs that’s coming on Christmas Day as it takes a little bit of time for people to make good animatics for them also one more thing cool part is Jorge Rivera and rest of the cast themselves are traveling to the actual Ithaca island for the watch party event they having

[@icemagiciangh]

2:37 that’s actually a story point from Percy Jackson. It was Rick’s way of making her story more family friendly, but her being banished is official to her mythology. Unfortunately, The Odyssey’s Calypso SAs Odysseus for the seven years he is locked there because of Zeus. (Edit- Thank you for informing me that Jay said she didn’t). Epic’s Calypso has been manipulative, another thing we heard from Love in Paradise, whether she realizes it or not. She _is_ a goddess who has been alone since she was a child, but she also knows what “No” and “I have a wife” means, as we saw in Love in Paradise, but she continued to advance on him. The fandom is very split on loving and hating her. Clover did a very good job of showing her sadness, but also having crazed expressions. I personally say that her situation is terrible, and they should have let her go, but that’s no excuse to make moves on someone she knew was married. (Please don’t kill me in the replies, I’m just trying to fill him in).

[@omarsalem1219]

No, she doesn't SA him in epic, and epic Cal is supposed to be more sympathatic

[@felixhenson9926]

It's absolutely NOT the Epic canon, Jorge has confirmed this, we've seen zero evidence that it is, and we've seen other characters confirm that it isn't too. She's bad at boundaries, that's true, but she is absolutely not anything worse than that in Epic. And tbh, if you've literally never interacted w a human before, I can see why she definitely was initially bad w boundaries. And here we see her at the end of those seven years apologising for her actions and the impression i got from Odysseus' 'i love you' (as a friend) was that she must've stopped being so pushy and listened to him at some point in that time and changed her behaviour otherwise she wouldn't know she'd done anything wrong.

[@Kamarovsky_KCM]

In mythology there's nothing about Calypso being "banished" to be on that island. As far as we know, she's willingly there and rules over it. This whole thing about siding with Atlas or whatever is also just from the Percy Jackson books.

[@beckenfuggle644]

I just rewatched all your epic videos yesterday 😍

[@beckenfuggle644]

Yay. Totally been waiting for this ❤

[@IreneShardaForever]

My problem with trying to be too sympathetic with Calypso is that she was the one keeping him trapped there all this time. And for those who say it was the island, if it was the island, Hermes wouldn't need to be sent to talk to her specifically. The entire reason Athena fought was so that Zeus would send Hermes to command Calypso to let Odysseus go. She entirely held the power there over him. She does carry blame no mater her sad reasons for her obsession.

[@BakuKaTsuke]

Literally! LET'S GOOOOOOOO

[@tori623worth]

Another great reaction! Dangerous is definitely a banger song 😆 It's sad that we are so close to the end, but I look forward to seeing the rest of Odysseus journey with you

[@aybuke.8207]

I would recommend for the next 3 songs charybdis - chaebony get in the water - NİNE 600 strike - duvetbox

[@scp-049]

The way I always interpreted the line "Then I am sorry my love's too much for you" is with a comma, "Then I am sorry, my love's too much for you." Not trying to place the blame on Odysseus for not being able to "handle" her love, but she's simply stating that she is sorry for the fact that she loves him too much. I dont know if I'm articulating this well. I'm essentially saying I never subscribed to the thought of that line being her shifting the blame onto Odyssey.

[@PercyJacksonEdits-hb6qc]

There’s one more saga!! It comes out the 25th

[@yozarian86]

Luke is just obsessed with the “you SOB I’m in” trope 😂 Dangerous really is amazing though. My first time hearing it. I last listened to any Epic songs on my own months ago.

[@mirandabee2323]

My copy of the Odyssey is in The Norton Anthology of Western Literature, Volume 1, 9th Edition. This version is translated by Stanley Lombardo. Here are the relevant lines (Book 5, lines 148-155): "Calypso composed herself and went to Odysseus, Zeus' message still ringing in her ears She found him sitting where the breakers rolled in. His eyes were perpetually wet with tears now, His life draining away in homesickness. The nymph had long since ceased to please. He still slept with her at night in her cavern, An unwilling lover mated to her eager embrace." My understanding and interpretation of this passage is thus: in the original source material (so not EPIC canon), Ody is not as faithful to Penelope though he still loves her, and this passage reads as if, perhaps, when he _first_ arrived to Ogygia, he welcomed Calypso's company and also perhaps her intimacy. However, when he became homesick, he didn't want to be on her island anymore, and certainly didn't want intimacy with her (hence, "the nymph had long since ceased to please," implying she pleased at some point), but she didn't notice or care and just SAed him.

[@brianjensen4754]

New Epic album dropped the final one on Dec 25th!

[@michaelhooper8559]

Calypso and Odysseus in EPIC is basically the same relationship Aira and Okarun have in DanDaDan. Calypso and Odysseus in the Odyssey is that first episode of DanDaDan, with Calypso as Turbo Granny

[@Cucamba35]

Awesome reaction, just letting you know, the ithaca saga just released yesterday, so i recommend you to react to all of it in one video after this saga, and also react to the premier live stream version. It's really worth it in one go

[@danielgold9487]

Just a heads up for the next song Charybdis: the song goes straight into the following one and alot of the animatics split the song oddly. without context to not spoil anything when Ody screams "No!" there is one more line of dialog which goes right into the next song. I only bring this up because I have seen a few other reactors get the cutoff and the next animatic not have that next part and the reactors being slightly confused as they lost 20 seconds of song. Hope this helps!

[@alexkindberg2505]

If you want a happy ending for Calypso, read Rick Riordan's first 10 books. She finally gets a boyfriend who doesn't just leave and abandon her but instead helps her off the island. She appears in the book Battle of the Labyrinth and Mark of Athena, House of Hades, and Battle of Olympus.

[@omarsalem1219]

My recommendations : Charbybdis : WafflesToAcrisp Get in the water : laritamiauu Six hundred strike : gwendy

[@andronixbegayaf]

2:42 MISINFORMATION ALERT! What those people were saying is not actually the case in the actual mythology! It's a thing that the author of the Percy Jackson book series(which is based on mythology) made up to make her character more likeable. In most of the tellings Calypso was a mistress of the island and she was the one who purposefully trapped Ody!

[@Kamarovsky_KCM]

The thing people spread about her "being trapped there for siding with Atlas" is also only from the PJO books. Yet people take it as gospel...

[@RinSolo]

And then, oh my, 3 songs left to go ... Until the Ithaca saga drops on Christmas

[@OdysseusIthica]

The heroes are send and she falls in love is a percy jackson thing only,i dont think it is in the mythology

[@michaelortiz1561]

It is not

[@godzylasserre4814]

A piece of advice seeing how invested you’ve became in this journey : next reaction, prepare some tissues. The next three songs are a freaking emotional roller coaster.

[@evelynolea4433]

the calypso falling in love curse is from PJO, also Not Sorry for Loving You was extremely triggering when i heard it for the first time, as someone that was in an abusive situation for 6 years the stuff she was saying was words i heard over and over again in attempts to guilt trip and gaslight, it felt like she was saying it was his fault for her loving him and its his fault for this whole situation and hes the bad guy for making her feel this way, not to mention the whole power imbalance going on cuz he's just a man and shes an immortal goddess who controls everything around him. I can't forgive what she did to him for 7 years and while Calypso from epic and her from the Odyssey are different that still doesn't change the fact that she kept him trapped on that island for 7 years and would have kept him there for longer had Hermes not shown up he was on the verge of ending his own life she didn't see him as his own person. so I understand some fans being sympathetic towards her we gotta remember shes not some helpless victim, also I believe in the Odyssey she isn't even alone in the island she has nymphs and attendants with her

[@dataweaver]

Just keep in mind that after the next three songs, it might be a while before there are any more Animatics to react to. But if you're willing to just listen to the songs at first to get the conclusion to the story through the music and lyrics, _that's_ almost certainly going to be available on Christmas day. And if any Animatics get made before you're ready to produce your final set of reactions (assuming you don't just delay until the Animatics come out), I can guarantee that your audience will keep you informed about what's available to watch.

[@CrimsonRedJoy]

Yes!! Vengeance saga get hype!!! Dangerous is the BEST and Hermes is my favorite. You also picked the best animatic, super happy. I cant wait for next Saturday! I'll be frank, I'm not a Calypso sympathizer, not really based on the mythos, just purely on lyrics she is much less defensible in my opinion. "Kept you trapped out of your control", "soon into bed we'll climb and spend our time" *completely ignores Odysseus' "I'm not your man"* "I'm what you want here, I'm what you need here" & "from here on our you're mine, all mine". That's just not sympathetic. She's suffering yes, but she spread her suffering instead of trying to even "woo" Ody. And he makes it clear in the second half of Love in Paradise that she has no idea what he sacrificed to get home, so he never felt close and/or safe enough to share it. If they'd been friends and not captor and captive wouldn't he ask for help leaving? Since he only finds out here that she's trapped too. Anyway, thats my soapbox, lot of people feel things about both directions and you did a good job walking between them, I just wanted to say my piece :)

[@MsJoanna18]

Can’t wait for ur next reaction to GET IN THE WATER!!!!!

[@TonyaGreenBane]

Last saga drops on Christmas Also, you gotta watch the one they did on Jorge’s stream for the last songs. You’ll love the animations he referenced!

[@ChrispyMmBacon]

YOU PICKED MY FAVORITE DANGEROUS ANIMATIC

[@johnlandon8741]

not going to lie, I wanna see luke react to all of the Dangerous animatics, cause all of them are pretty well drawn

[@aarsy9935]

2:49 oh no, that's from a book series called "Percy Jackson". It's not really like that

[@lusus5610]

real tired of people mixing up the lore and explaining it to people learning about it.

[@aarsy9935]

@lusus5610 that wasn't directed to me right? 😭 I remember from what I researched that she didn't fall for anyone that came to her island

[@lusus5610]

@aarsy9935 ROFL no! no I swear! you're good, I was agreeing with you. Don't get me wrong the version in epic is def more sympathetic (still not a fan of her personally) but if people are describing her OG lore then they need to leave out PJ lore.

[@aarsy9935]

@lusus5610 omg yes! I hate her sm and I think in the lore here too was showing that she's just horrible. People only feel sad about her and forgive her using the pj character!

[@lusus5610]

@aarsy9935 and honestly I'll never forgive her in Percy either xD like every version of her is better than the original but still not great. She doesnt SA in epic to my knowledge and I get she's been alone but A. some people act like she did nothing to get sent here and B. I can understand trying to win over Ody, I can, but girl didn't just come on strong she practically hit the man over the head with a bat (metaphorically) like dang girl.

[@eternalsummer8409]

With the Greeks they had many different versions of love, and names for each of them, so yeah he did love calypso, just not in a romantic “I’m in love with you” kind of way, and more of a brotherly way

[@multibubbled-il2bp]

I can't recall any of the versions of the Odyssea I read where calypso was cursed to fall in love (unless you count Percy Jackson), only to be unable to leave her island. And yeah, her falling in love hard and fast makes sense, but the Odyssea was pretty explicit about her raping Odysseus repeatedly. I believe the exact line was “In the nights, true, / he'd sleep with her in the arching cave - he had no choice - / unwilling lover alongside lover all too willing”. That said, this calypso, if nothing else, probably didn't actually rape Odysseus.

[@michaelortiz1561]

Percy jackson has ruined Greek mythology for an entire generation

[@WhitepawWolfGaming]

I know people already recommended a Charybdis animatic but some new ones have come out that I love more, mostly the one by chaebony is very underrated. Also a Get In The Water animatic that I also think is underrated is the one by NiNE. They certainly have a very unique take on it.

[@SioxGreyWolf]

As part of her curse, she is sent only men who cannot stay, who cannot fall in love her. Each with a goal and a quest they cannot afford to stay.

[@diandraluna9695]

HIGHLY recommend VirusAP’s version of Charybdis! It is UNHINGED! So so good 🤩

[@PixiePheonix]

There are a couple very drastically different approaches to 600 strike. The one from the livestream, and duvetbox's are both good, but tell the story very differently. I think it would be cool to check them both out and let us know your thoughts about how it changes the story etc. (could also be something you do after you've done reactions for all the epic songs? go back through and watch different takes on the animatics and see how it changes the story and share thoughts on it?)

[@A_CC-ce5pb]

It really is a depressing story, Odysseus and Calypso. In the original myth, she was isolated on the island Ogygia, possibly for her connection to her father, a Titan named Atlas, though it's unclear and implied that she just chose to be there. Heroes do come on the island, but they never stay, and they never love her like she does them. Since greek mythology was typically orally shared, the story between Ody and Calypso varies, with some detailing she SA'ed and manipulated him and others saying she acted more like in EPIC, where she's kinda sweet and desperate for love (though typically she uses a type siren song to make him want to stay). All the while, Odysseus either acts distant and cold, trying to keep to himself or creul and manipulative by playing along to buy himself time. Usually, however, the story ends with Ody loving Calypso (kind of) and leaving her with 2 sons, abandoning all of them once Hermes comes to demand his freedom and the gods allow to go home. Now, her desperation doesn't excuse what she did, but it does explain it and give some perspective to just how bad the situation was for both of them.

[@Kamarovsky_KCM]

No she wasn't "imprisoned there" in the original myths. That's all invented by Riordan for the Percy Jackson novels. Wish yall would stop spreading that falsehood...

[@A_CC-ce5pb]

@Kamarovsky_KCM So, I did some research after your comment, and you had a point. It's been a little while since I'd fully doven into the Odyssey, and I had mixed the stories in my explanation. Thanks for addressing that. It helped me out. I edited the comment to fix my statement. Also, it kinda seems implied as an imprisonment or something similar? Like, the gods seem to be enforcing/ supporting her isolation (out of respect or fear?), so I don't know.

[@Kamarovsky_KCM]

@@A_CC-ce5pb Sure could have been in some way involuntary, but unless we discover some ancient writings claiming so, we can't assume that. Sadly a lot of myths have few surviving sources, as most, like the Odyssey, were for the longest time passed down solely through oral tradition. Really hoping that some writings one day get unearthed that gave us more info, because for now, some mythological characters that are known in the modern culture have a total of maybe two sentences dedicated to them in ancient writings.