GOTH REACTS: CAN A GROWN WOMAN WEAR GOTH FASHION?💀

[@jessib7495]

My answer to that is "I'm a grown ass woman, I'll wear what I want." Life is too damn short.

[@karaigrayson8198]

Preach

[@Duvessa-darkbeauty]

Exactly!!!

[@SouthernGothBelle]

The fact that the Wall Street Journal didn’t realize that goth has been around since the 70’s/80’s and most goths are in fact adults

[@suannealsop2294]

I'm 53 and a goth why should other simple minded people tell me who to be and what I should wear 🦇

[@lizwhite5999]

I'm 62 and I love goth lifestyle. If I live to be 100 I will still keep my goth appearance

[@VesselOfBlood]

Amazing 😎👌🏻

[@robertvisquo308]

I'm a grown ass middle aged man and I wear goth fashions when I go out, drink and dance. When I was 20 years old I couldn't afford shit. Now I can. Life is indeed too damn short to give a shit what others think.

[@shar8838]

🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽

[@angelajakob1257]

People are mostly conforming sheeple, everything that falls outside the norm often triggers uncomfortable feelings. This is a never ending discussion. Just wear whatever us goths want since people will always judge.

[@cazx3133]

I’m 45 and wear goth/metal fashion and I shall do so until the day I die!

[@hatedbymanylovedbyfew3567]

I’m 37 going on 38 next month December I’m also Goth/ Metalhead as well I’m also doing it along as I live as well.

[@Zalerinae0491]

I was an emo in HS and evolved into a casual goth as an adult. I kept trying to move away from it since I felt I couldn't wear it anymore. Then I had my daughter and felt as a mom I really could t do it. Then I decided screw it imma wear what I want when I want and I'm almost 30.

[@CrypticJasmine]

Yes!!! Same! Ages 26-29 I felt too old to be myself and once I hit 30 I stopped caring and wore what I wanted!

[@haleysantos86]

Yes, same here getting ready to turn 30 and I'm over trying to look motherly, my daughter already has that dark style on her own already too.

[@sissymarie2912]

That totally resonates. It was rough when my kids were little and pulling on everything. They got older and I just stopped caring.

[@Duvessa-darkbeauty]

I’m 44 years old and dress Goth everyday day.

[@liaml.e.5964]

Hear hear!

[@jessicasparkles1619]

I'm 43 and still into goth fashion and music. It is most definitely for adults.

[@sierram9573]

“I mean I guess peacocks can be goth?” 😂 I liked this kind of video!

[@liaml.e.5964]

To be fair, there are melanistic peacocks (very beautiful, BTW), so yeah...

[@sarahvoigt6989]

Someone wearing black clothes: "gOtH" 😂 only like the fact that they mentioned the the goth subculture and how it started in a little tiny part the rest was hilarious 😂

[@krystikilcoyne1378]

So yeah I’m 51 and am more goth than I’ve ever been! Do what makes you happy, no person or article is gonna convince me otherwise! People have things to say about everything!!

[@loridarkpool3631]

I know a granny that been part of the Goth subculture since the late 70's and still dresses Goth. It's safe to say, yes, grown women can dress Goth. She's great, very supportive, jokingly tells annoying kids to get off her lawn or she'll hex them. (Kids know she's joking) We listen to music together, she tells stories, cook, we watch movies, she gives me fashion tips. Normal granny stuff.

[@idrislee1092]

"goth girl gone corporate" Where I'm from we call that Corporate Goth lol

[@CrypticJasmine]

Lmao exactly

[@bytemevv-4616]

Seen alot of that in Call Centers

[@ingajeffrey1978]

Yep.

[@_Spy_]

There is a saying my mom says when she sees certain stuff about fashion. It might sound weird but here it is: *"Fashion always does a full circle"* what does she mean with that? That certain elements of fashion are returning again. She used to work in a clothing store since she was 20 years old and now she sees the clothing style and the techniques they used then. We were having a conversation and the topic went to fashion she gave me a few examples: *"We were wearing this pants in the 80's."* or *"These accessories were very trendy in mid 90's"* etc. I looked at her straight in the eye and said *"One day the Goths and Emos are gonna be trending again. Mark my words mom!"* she rolled her eyes but I do believe that.

[@cottoncandy2023]

I guess goth and emo are trending again but in a different form, because of the tik tok e-girl, e-boy aesthetic

[@NerdWytch]

As a 40 year old "grown woman" let me just say that we can do/wear whatever the fuck we want 😘

[@VesselOfBlood]

I love that 👌🏻

[@Stylomagic]

The thing with grown up women is, that they don't depend on other opinions. I am 37 and I have bright green hair and I wear only black and white. I love Hot Topic, because they always have so much Beetlejuice stuff! I don't know why its considered only a "teen shop", like when you get older even you are a goth, you have to dress more sophisticated and expensive! No! Simply NO! Who the f*ck desides how much money I spend on my clothing?! Its only me! I didn't start this whole look to separate myself from "normal" people. I just loved that style, I love Tim Burton. I don't want to separate myself from others, I just like that look and music (I adore THE CURE). The separation comes from other people, because they reduce people to their looks. BTW to find a job with green hair is really difficult, even you don't work with customers. No one asks how much experience you have or how good you can do a job. But there are people who look under your appearance (as it is SO aggressivly different) and see that you are pretty good in your job. Trust me, if you have same issues like I did with finding a job, once you decide not to change your appearance for others, you will find the right job for you!

[@gothgoddessrhia]

I feel like these types of articles pop up whenever high fashion goes goth. Which happens at least once a decade it seems. I remember in the early oughts it was supereasy to buy goth clothing EVERYWHERE because it was in vogue (literally). I don't mind if that happens again. Also, I'm an Elder Goth (51) and wear what I damn want. I remember when I was 26 people constantly asked me when I was going to grow out of my Goth phase. HA.

[@taira_2032]

Well.. whenever someone says goth is just a phase, or that it's not an adult thing, I show them Jane Wilkes. Puts them in their place. Every time. XD

[@leoniesableblanc]

She is a great lady with great style.

[@loripokigo5164]

I love ,love goth fashion... I'm 53 and not a goth...but I see the beauty in the black ...

[@JNoMooreNumbers]

Seeing if anyone older than me almost 57.

[@cheerfulsatanist]

Considering how many parents in the US are adamantly opposed to Gothic fashion and the whole aesthetic in general and how incredibly expensive Gothic fashion can be, the idea that adult women with jobs can't wear it is, is ludicrous

[@donnamcdermott443]

I get the "where are you going or been " thing people think you need to be going somewhere special to "dress up " they don't realise that it's not dressed up for us it's normal everyday wear 😂🤣

[@krystikilcoyne1378]

Yeah this woman at work was like “you dress up to go grocery shopping???”

[@roxycocksey]

Omg this is the most annoying thing 🤦🏻‍♀️ I absolutely despise when ppl say this to me. One of the most close minded and stupid questions in the world 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️ ...god I hate people lol.

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

@@krystikilcoyne1378 I most certainly do 😊

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

It's because majority of people are lazy af and just wear pajamas or yoga workout clothes everywhere. Bumwear

[@mapachito5112]

The longer your spikes the closer to Satan 😂😂😂🖤

[@CrypticJasmine]

Lmaooo I love your reactions. Yes same it’s funny to me that people act like just because you get old you have to stop being yourself. You have to put in some boring “adult” uniform all of a sudden? Haha our society is so weird. By the time you are old enough to make your own choices they say you are too old to do anything. Ridiculous.

[@go2hellgrl]

No she meant to say “sober”. Edward Gorey is amazing check out some of his illustrated books. Anyway I’m a 52 year old goth. As you age you learn to embrace who you are in spite of whatever anyone else has to say.

[@JNoMooreNumbers]

Almost 57 one.😁

[@haleysantos86]

🖤

[@hatedbymanylovedbyfew3567]

Congratulations making it until the your 50s it will be awesome had KZbin Channel talk about growing up as Baby Bat to Elder Goth I will definitely watch it I’m in late 30s working have my own channel soon as Goth/ Metalhead here . I wear sometimes Blue Denim got influenced by Punk Subculture .

[@meganpedersen1]

I like Gothic fashion, always have. But, you can wear it whenever, wherever you want. To me it doesn't always need to have a reason. You're one of the queens of Gothic dressing! P.s, hair is awesome!

[@kimberlysmith3290]

You most certainly can be Goth as a grown woman...look at Jillian Venters. Some of her outfits are lovely. I'm 34 and still wearing my punk flared pants, fishnets, safety pinned shirts with a bit of Rockabilly and Victorian dresses, skirts and lace tops thrown in. I actually get quite nice comments from strangers when I looks the part as opposed to my early 20s when at a nightclub wearing a fashion corset, sandals and a long black skirt "errr piss off ya goth!". Aussies are so eloquent.

[@BOUJEEBOGANBADBITCHQUEEN]

It's how we speak and you wonder why we are the most loved country in the world

[@lolitarivers4080]

I am so going to have to check out this "Goth starter kit"!!

[@issalife3521]

I'm going to be 50 soon, pretty sure I'm grown..lol

[@sofetchxx]

OH HELL-LO. Gets me every time.

[@frncystin7595]

This will be the season when we all are gonna be the most fashionable of the bunch... Apparently tables are turning. We'll be the cool kids at last😂😂😂😂

[@ThatOneOtherFangirl]

I'm a grown woman that wears goth fashion and my fiancee is a grown woman wearing gamer fashion, so people being judgemental is nothing new but HOW DID THIS MAKE IT TO THE WALLSTREET JOURNAL BTW: I was an angsty teen. I just grew up and got adult money lol, I've always been here

[@dragondude32191]

Hi there, I love your videos and I just thought I would jump in and say I totally agree with your opinion on the subject! I'm 30 years old, I have my Masters degree and I'm working a stable career right now and… I'm a member of the Gothic Community. I wear lots of black on the weekends but during the weekdays I consider myself part of the working force and especially since I work at a school I tone it down but I'm still myself. People should not be judged so harshly based on such silly things. I'm doing very well for myself in terms of health, wellness and two healthy cats and a roommate LOL. I don't give a shit what anybody says about my black clothing or dark make up! Be yourself whether you're five years old, 15, 30 or 75!

[@starnights6295]

Yay I am a sad city goth at 46 years old and loving my life and style.

[@ingajeffrey1978]

I have that Wednesday Addams expression reading along with that article.

[@catkw]

Love that wig on you! Nice to see you try out something new in terms of content! ❤️❤️❤️

[@VesselOfBlood]

Thank you so much! I thought I’d try it out, I’d love to make it more interactive where you guys send me things to react to 😎

[@acepotato6565]

Ah yes “Angsty teens” totally not everyone who has nothing to do but at the same time have stuff to do

[@cyaneko]

Who else is supposed to wear goth fashion? that shit is expensive, you have to have a job to afford this stuff. I know there are cheaper alternatives but still..

[@Stylomagic]

There are cheap alternatives, also you can do a lot by yourself. Like the spiked leather jacket ;) Took me two weekends to made that one, but it looks awesome. Have it now for 10 years and its still in a pretty good condition. I got the jacket from a thrift store, pretty heavy. I didn't want to spend money on a new one made out of faux leather. I wanted it to last. Also you can make so much by yourself, it doesn't always need to be KILLSTAR or even you want that, look up for online shops and search for it second hand. You will find a lot goth brands in a good condition a lpt cheaper than the actual price. And if you have some basics, some DIYs and also some second hand goth brand stuff, you have it all! There will be even more with the years, all baby bats starts from scratch. But you collect a lot over the years :)

[@lamiasteele6710]

I'm 35 and more goth every day hahahaha

[@elizabethh3577]

Well, ok let's see I was way more goth when I was in my late teens/early 20s, late 90's to early 2000's. Now I'm more rock/punk, BUT I can totally rock a goth look if I want to :) Wear what you want, we only live once :) Btw, your 'outtakes' at the end are awesome! Love your 'snort' laugh! So cute :)

[@amazinglasiter]

I mean..like I'm pretty the majority of the musicians, artists and writers who started the goth culture were over the age of 18. That said Adults can dress however they would like . It's such a silly idea that anyone shouldn't be allowed to dress in the way that makes them feel comfortable and confident.

[@divondark895]

Im a 42 yo goth and a MOTHER OF A CHILD!! :O I am goth since I was 10yo. WHATS WRONG WITH ME????? :O I hate stupid ppl -.-

[@krystikilcoyne1378]

Yeah I’m a grandmother and he calls me grandma pumpkin🎃🎃 do what makes you happy🖤🖤people are crazy I don’t tell anyone else how they should dress🤷🏻‍♀️🤷🏻‍♀️

[@divondark895]

@@krystikilcoyne1378 hahah thats so cuuute!! ^^

[@catarinasilva204]

im so excited for this already!!! 🙌❤️

[@VesselOfBlood]

Yay! It was fun to film 🥰

[@catarinasilva204]

@@VesselOfBlood and i loved it a loooot ❤️

[@frightfang5235]

Those clothes in the article cost more than my first car...

[@VesselOfBlood]

Same

[@Kisaskastle]

The womens smile reminds me of harley quinn. Lolz gorhs are awesome. Ive been one for years and im a large lady so struggle to find some goth things in my size but im stull a goth and love it xx

[@alicenaps234]

Me, looking at the starter kit at 10:30 and thinking...who is going to tell them that, if you wear just fishnet in your boots you will get blisters from hell. YOU NEED SOCKS FFS :D

[@VesselOfBlood]

So true 😂

[@marciawilliams9582]

Absolutely Any one can be goth.

[@lunarainbow4768]

oh hun, i love you so much. Yes style no matter what it is has no age. lmbo! i love your bloopers. you always make me smile. hugs.🖤💖🖤🤗🥰

[@lorenheard2561]

Black is so soothing...And cheerful for me!🖤☘🕊Great video! Your blue wig really gives you a lovely glow! Like moonlight!🌚🖤⛼

[@CrypticJasmine]

Okay I don’t want to be a hater but this person wrote this article without doing ANY research. Us adults out here have BEEN goth. Please have a million seats, Nancy!

[@lolitarivers4080]

I love your hair here!!

[@VesselOfBlood]

Thank you 😊

[@purplejanew]

We are only allowed to wear the Designer version apparently! Hated that awful model though....

[@1015SaturdayNight]

I'm 49 and I do what I want!

[@Convoluted-and-Exiled]

@12:09 "Give me a give me a man after miidnight.....I'd rather have Tacos than a Man, actually..." LMFAO! CAN RELATE! That made me laugh so hard. And that Wig Flip. Ok, you're like, my favorite person now. Haha. I love that you can have fun, not have to stick to some script or something like some people do. You're YOU, and that makes you Goth right there ;) (Authenticity)

[@lolitarivers4080]

I love how they dress at Hot Topic also!

[@dixierodriguez3149]

Beautiful as always Heather

[@ladygreensleeves901]

Please do a wig video I need some new ones and would love to know where u get yours

[@VesselOfBlood]

I have a human hair wig collection video coming soon 😎

[@middleofnowhere1313]

Can and do. I'm 52 years old and I take care of myself.

[@Duvessa-darkbeauty]

I am 44 years old, yes I am very grown and do dress Goth and have a job, and I am a mom and a wife, and I am a Christian and yes I dress Goth and listen to Goth music. I hate stereotypes.

[@snow_fox9390]

Love the end portion! I died laughing XD

[@bekahnavarro]

Edward Gorey is rad. I'm 45 and when I wear a skirt, people ask me if I'm going somewhere too. Must be the era.

[@takethetrashaway263]

love this video!! i feel like the title of the article might have been phrased that way in order to get some clicks 🤣

[@VesselOfBlood]

Oh absolutely haha. Thank you!

[@Varjopihlaja]

Oh boy 😂 I'll be here on my workplace representing the only ''physics goth'' then, going well :D

[@persefonerestinpeace7982]

I love your videos XD The bloopers at the end XD I'm going to die laughing XDDDDDD

[@Helloo_oo]

😂😂😂 Omg!! You are so loveable!!

[@leoniesableblanc]

This made me laugh. I am 53 and a trial lawyer ( so yes WSJ someone with a job!) and I am gothically inclined ( I prefer to be called gothic to goth) but my court suit is a gorgeous formal black one from Killstar, in work I wear black nail polish and my Jewelry is gothic. I love corsets and black velvet and lace etc when not working. When you get older you just adjust your look, ( ie my skirt hems are not so short!) you don’t suddenly have to start to wear pastel Pringle jumpers and tweed skirts! I will be gothic until I die. And everyone had better wear black to my funeral or I will haunt them! 🖤 and yes, health goth is a ‘thing’, think gothic gym wear etc. 🙄

[@bradleyshore4594]

Oh goodness wallstreet journal lol

[@MommaSunshine333]

"Goth Girl Home Corporate" - sounds like a porno title!! 😆 😆 😆

[@car0ndelet]

This article kinda sounds like a sales pitch for Prada, McQueen, etc. with a smattering of surface-level alternative history and throwing shade at older Goths.

[@ladygreensleeves901]

You’d love Edward Goreys cartoons

[@natasharichardson4609]

Just wow! Lol I found a new term for myself from this! "Sexy monster" lol :D!

[@Mglay556]

Media: CaN wOmEn WeAr (insert clothing items/style). Like leave people alone, fuck.

[@michellebrowne9100]

The article is clearly written by people who ask for *less* spice in their curry.

[@emilycurtis4398]

I liked the Health Goth comment. Reminds me of everything on Black Craft Cult's website.

[@GRLintheband]

31 and still occasionally check the sale section online of hot topic. Haha 😂 I as a grown up have a split personality between colorful retro cartoon like girly and my everyday mostly black everything with docs or chunky boots or platform Mary Janes. I don’t like to title myself anymore because I just like to do whatever I feel like when I wake up haha 😂

[@VesselOfBlood]

I love that! 👌🏻

[@Convoluted-and-Exiled]

This is better than I thought it'd be as well. Side the parts that are...Just awkward lol.. However a few things seem to be off in her 'facts' too, unless I am the one missing something; Robert Smith had released a statement that he isn't Goth..? Nor is his band..? Other than that though, not too bad. "Cyber-Goth" is apparently a huuuuge debate on whether or not it can be called "Goth" *rolls eyes*, but i think the rest here, up to 7:10, where I currently left off... Is right when it comes to background checking like the Bands,.. (I am agreeing with you). As for all these things like "Health Goth"? I ....I just can't even. Lol. And Goth being this, unease? I don't know, I can see it, but I can't entirely swing this way or that way on it. Some feel that way I have found, and some dont. It's definetely turned...Mainstream, though from how it started...That's for sure. As long as people understand what it is at the core, and respect it...I don't have a problem. It's only when they insist things always were that weren't...That's like "Now wait just a minute there". ya know? Thank you for doing this Video, I do appreciate it and love your videos. (Sorry I have been absent, things have been...Challenging. So I'm in and out. Haven't posted what I've wanted to...) 10:55 - 11:11 I could not agree more. Thank you for saying that. On that note? Then when we aren't treated as a kid? Well, it can go a little something like this: I actually had a neighbor in his...60s? Interrogate me over my spiked choker in front of his friends. Asking what it meant, what kind of statement I was going for, etc. (Sounds civil, but I'm leaving out his insulting comments) His friends were genuinely interested though, especially when I said "Goth". One woman asked me "So it's more like a Necklace then?" I agreed. He, however? Insisted it was....Well... Let's just say he told one of them to clip a Leash to it and that's when I put my foot down and then left. (Because of his attitude with it, I'm not including everything said of course) There is still a lot of stigma when it comes to what Goth even is and is not. So I'm sadly not surprised this Article is titled what it is, there. Ya know? I have actually ended up in debates with others who didn't understand, or things 'I' missed, etc.. It's become a convoluted mess... I'd like to see that cleared up. But a lot of things are a mess, so I don't know. Just a wish.

[@amayalandscaping6874]

Vocalizing is good🗣

[@Chaotic4Exotics]

If I wore makeup people would ask me where are u goin like bitch I'm doin me. ⚫〰⚫ been goth since I was 11 im 25 and wont change my style for not A one

[@Bearninja575761]

Love ur videos I watch u when u upload

[@lolitarivers4080]

You kinda have to have a job to be goth! It's quite expensive!

[@malakaimotionless4574]

Asks if peacocks can be goth.. as you miss Vessel of Blood look like a "gothic peacock" with that bright wig n bright makeup :p looking fabulous tho always!

[@theoneonlymichelle3.082]

Great video 💜

[@jazzminelavender7684]

Hello lovey and hope you are well in these crazy times. So......hmmmm....it as if the writer of the article is so conformist to change the terms of a Grow up Goth aesthetic. Darling we both know, the dark red, purples, the darkest black, raven, stripes and of sheer dark prints is an everyday goth way of living. The gothic culture has life and continue to evolve to resonate the experience and wellness. The Addams Family idea is cute; though cut the smile to a cynical grin. Remember to use the term as Elder Goth and not as of Growup Goth. There are the elders in the 40-60s til the evermore way of life. The question is goth is not mainstream. Its an entirety of an universe itself. I applaud the writer that recognize my muse Siouxsie and of course the Cure; yet go beyond that. There are many musicians and artists that embrace the goth culture....and the point is Goth is Never a moment or style. True she did bring up Mary Shelley. Though the thought of the writing of Edgar Allan Poe, or of the legendary Bram Stoker Dracula literates the epic.

[@smokyquartz5817]

How can some woman claim she invented Corp goth?

[@mmpaquin42]

“ exsqueeze me?” Lolll :D

[@bluehorribledarkness1723]

I actually did not know that this was a wig before it fell of your head at the end of the video xD

[@VesselOfBlood]

I love that 😂👌🏻

[@tamarab.7151]

of course.

[@yanyxz2662]

Please test shein's makeup

[@explosivo666]

Gimme, gimme, gimme tacos after midnight Won't somebody help me chase the hunger away Gimme, gimme, gimme tacos after midnight Take me through the darkness to the break of the day

[@JNoMooreNumbers]

Didn't mention Edgar Allen Poe. Very gothic. Those prices can outdo and copy on the cheap. Had chain belts in the 80s. Oh so original.🙄 The longer your spikes, the more likely you'll injure yourself.😁Remove before taking a nap. Coming from someone that had nails through a leather bracelet. Dryrotted a long time ago though. Mostly crumbled.

[@OO-rb8hz]

Sounds like the person was just doing a cash grab, was not original in the least ! I mean, the Wednesday girl was spot on, but those prices, were unrealistic!!!!

[@ASMRyouVEGANyet]

If they don't pay your bills, pay them no mind

[@blightedroses2423]

I feel like its weird they associate it with just teens, but are also referencing 80s bands. Is their brain ok, I think their math is a bit off.

[@sjjacko6100]

I’m 33 and been a Goth since I was 17 ...

[@Tinyfurball]

Gothic Culture has been around way before most of here watching this video was ever even born. Everyone says 1980s. But, but. It is more than a century old. So, there is no age limit.

[@postit5725]

❣️Can you react to Borat?

[@VesselOfBlood]

I love that movie!

[@postit5725]

@@VesselOfBlood very nice, I like, I so excite ❤️

[@Loopykittystar]

Jeez hun... Whatever happened to wearing what we want hey

[@Fairy_Gothmother]

Ummm... what kind of question is that?? 🤨

[@bickc1857]

Hey VOB im 67 and M'Lady is 52 we've been in the black since before the 80's...now more victorian goth ...it still makes me laff that they still gets things wrong....sorry to pick but 'powches' pockets....i thougt Rob Smith hated being connected to the Goth cuture!!

[@melaniescribbles]

//sees title of the article The short answer is yes. The long answer is yes, and fuck everyone who says you can't. Source: I'm 27, been in the subculture for 14 years now. Not claiming to be an eldergoth by any means, but I would say I've paid my dues. Also: 'I'd rather have tacos then a man' is a big mood and I couldn't have said it better myself. Dammit, now I feel like ordering Mexican food...

[@VesselOfBlood]

Haha I love that! I want tacos now too 😭

[@melaniescribbles]

@@VesselOfBlood Thank you :) I actually am getting Mexican food this weekend, and I have a bit of a 'believe or or not story' about it now. I'm staying over at my mother's place until the corona crisis ends, and we often just talk about whatever we did that day because there's not much else to chat about. I was telling her about your video and my comment once she just got back from the grocery store, because I was having a lazy day and this was one of the highlights of what I've watched today. And she was like 'you're kidding me, I'm making fajitas this weekend'. We didn't even talk on the phone or text each other or anything: she was literally at the store wondering what to make for dinner while I was typing. Taco telepathy, I guess? Oh well, at least me and my mother had a good laugh about that article. Just... does the writer of that thing not know that corpgoth as a fashion already exists? And has existed in the subculture since 2014? Did they really think that we wear full goth regalia to a job interview before this article happened? All jokes aside, though: I'm morbidly curious to what Wall Street thought goth was before this.