The Worst Chess Game Mathematically Possible

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GothamChess

GothamChess

Күн бұрын

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@ErmisSouldatos
@ErmisSouldatos Жыл бұрын
Suggestion: since both engines are playing the worst moves based on standard evaluation, they are blundering mates but the opponent is not checkmating them. This is because they still evaluate under the assumption that, in the future, both will play the best moves. Instead, we could also change the evaluation algorithm, so that they do indeed assume both sides will always play the worst move possible. This way, instead of playing moves that make no progress for either side, they will actively be trying to lose, making moves that force their opponent to play something good. For example, a queen chasing a king around the board trying to force him to take her or other similar things would be hilarious
@bernhardbrodowsky3261
@bernhardbrodowsky3261 Жыл бұрын
Isn't that just a bot that's really good at anti chess then?
@itsArridian
@itsArridian Жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. AN anti-chess wizard bot
@itsArridian
@itsArridian Жыл бұрын
@@bernhardbrodowsky3261 But in anti-chess ALL captures are forced, in this that would not be the case
@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496
@rafaelgabrielgarlinidal-bo9496 Жыл бұрын
not yet an anti chess bot tho. Captures are forced in anti, so the "stockfish" of anti chess has to set up the best forced capture chain for the opponent to be trapped in.
@trout3685
@trout3685 Жыл бұрын
That's what I was hoping for. I was wondering why white didn't say her queen with check and force black to take it.
@whynot5708
@whynot5708 Жыл бұрын
Ok very funny Levy, taking one of my chess games and calling it “ the worst possible chess game mathematically”
@spirosgoussis9717
@spirosgoussis9717 Жыл бұрын
really?
@captainvyom463
@captainvyom463 Жыл бұрын
​@@spirosgoussis9717 (real)
@Fck_the_atf
@Fck_the_atf Жыл бұрын
“Levi”
@aghilas2299
@aghilas2299 Жыл бұрын
I thought it was mine 😂😂
@wNiko.
@wNiko. Жыл бұрын
who is levi
@wsenay6717
@wsenay6717 Жыл бұрын
The mate in *27* with the three knights is the greatest thing stockfish has provided anyone ever
@paulvanzyl2385
@paulvanzyl2385 Жыл бұрын
you missed the mate in 50 at the end lol
@sethwooldridge9026
@sethwooldridge9026 Жыл бұрын
There's a mate in 40 15:17
@theseer2626
@theseer2626 Жыл бұрын
at 17:00 there is a frame with mate in 50 lol
@pawn6
@pawn6 Жыл бұрын
there was a mate in 9223372036854775807 moves
@pawn6
@pawn6 Жыл бұрын
@@theseer2626 16:50 too
@Red-in-Green
@Red-in-Green 8 ай бұрын
This is some top tier “in order to get a zero you had to have known all the answers” stuff.
@AR15andGOD
@AR15andGOD 6 ай бұрын
whats that background in ur pfp? Is that some kid phase thing?
@13eaewe7m3thso
@13eaewe7m3thso 6 ай бұрын
@@AR15andGOD does it make you feel smart and clever to be rude to strangers?
@LinoAckenjiro
@LinoAckenjiro 6 ай бұрын
only true in yes/no and maybe in multiple choice questions
@QuinnMiller
@QuinnMiller 6 ай бұрын
Chess is expanded multiple choice​@@LinoAckenjiro
@Spartan-3144
@Spartan-3144 6 ай бұрын
@@AR15andGOD i mean this as politely as possible, please don't open your mouth again. it's their choice to have a flag in their pfp, it genuinely hurts no one. legit just pixels on a screen bro. cool your jets
@MistaOppritunity
@MistaOppritunity Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when Levy said that he wasn't going to reiterate that this was the worst possible move every move then proceeded to reiterate that this was the worst possible move every move.
@FoxSlyme
@FoxSlyme Жыл бұрын
I guess that was the worst possible move by Levy 😁
@Human..Being...
@Human..Being... Жыл бұрын
When a chess game is that bad, it's hard to not mention it. At least it went faster than my chess games, at one move every 2 minutes.
@Some_Sandich
@Some_Sandich Жыл бұрын
My favorite part was when he said it’s reiterating time and reiterated all over the place
@whirl
@whirl Жыл бұрын
@@Some_Sandichambata-reiterate
@esatziyadonmez1291
@esatziyadonmez1291 Жыл бұрын
999th like
@The_R3al_Spike
@The_R3al_Spike Жыл бұрын
A massive thanks to the eval bar for doing all that hard work
@davidthecommenter
@davidthecommenter Жыл бұрын
bro was doing pull ups
@mhmmmhmm3554
@mhmmmhmm3554 Жыл бұрын
@@davidthecommenter and squats
@seanstoltz6957
@seanstoltz6957 Жыл бұрын
Bro was doing a warm up bench at 500 lbs
@pinkshortcomedy
@pinkshortcomedy Жыл бұрын
yoo 669th like here
@Blinkers2007GameDev
@Blinkers2007GameDev Жыл бұрын
@@davidthecommenter muscle ups 20 in a row
@toby1248
@toby1248 11 ай бұрын
Some of these moves are so deep that not only do they blunder mate, they prevent the opponent from blundering mate too
@2Complex2
@2Complex2 9 ай бұрын
Time for "excellent" blunders
@Trinity_editz0
@Trinity_editz0 9 ай бұрын
Brilliant blunder
@_Gam3r
@_Gam3r 8 ай бұрын
uno reverse brilliant
@ghostcat5303
@ghostcat5303 8 ай бұрын
'???'
@imkingnoobuwu4326
@imkingnoobuwu4326 8 ай бұрын
!!!??!!!!!​@@ghostcat5303
@athalean
@athalean 9 ай бұрын
The actual game is the intense ping-pong match that's going on in the evaluation bar.
@ChristianGidishki
@ChristianGidishki 5 ай бұрын
Lmfao
@Sorcerer_Poog
@Sorcerer_Poog 2 ай бұрын
It fr went to 41 in advantage to black 😭
@Sorcerer_Poog
@Sorcerer_Poog 2 ай бұрын
Nvm, i js saw it go to 87
@Sorcerer_Poog
@Sorcerer_Poog 2 ай бұрын
And now 100...
@JupiterianGuy
@JupiterianGuy 25 күн бұрын
I once saw it at 255
@Retribution5618
@Retribution5618 Жыл бұрын
16:56 stockfish calculating and seeing a mate in 50, and also there being an -87 point advantage is just incredible.
@dripcolors8756
@dripcolors8756 Жыл бұрын
yea, I love it when if black lost 87 pawns, it would've been a draw.
@drenzine
@drenzine Жыл бұрын
"mate in 50" mfs when 50 move rule
@looming_lawsuit
@looming_lawsuit Жыл бұрын
​@@drenzine bro doesn't know how 50 move rule works
@Imaha
@Imaha Жыл бұрын
well actually, with 7 or less pieces on the board its mathmatically solved so stockfish just has to check the database and run the position, that means and position with 7 or less pieces has been solved including this one and it just memorizes the forced mates.
@drenzine
@drenzine Жыл бұрын
@@Imaha fun fact stockfish sometimes doesnt actually check the database
@Lakshya_Plays_Minecraft
@Lakshya_Plays_Minecraft Жыл бұрын
I can finally say i play like stockfish thank you gotham ❤️
@San-chifuyu_devrishi
@San-chifuyu_devrishi Жыл бұрын
Why aren't u continuing ur series on ur channel
@ajayshirode1630
@ajayshirode1630 Жыл бұрын
☠️☠️
@adhamsherif6230
@adhamsherif6230 Жыл бұрын
if anyone could actually play that bad they would be a fucking GM
@thehunterwr4666
@thehunterwr4666 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheseksiXae🇵🇰🇵🇰🇵🇰
@maddoxmonteza
@maddoxmonteza Жыл бұрын
LMAO
@anomaliecosmos
@anomaliecosmos Жыл бұрын
"Re-blundering checkmate" is such a powerful phrase. And oddly perfectly describes my life
@liquidcashews
@liquidcashews Жыл бұрын
270 likes and no comments? we can fix that
@plushiewolf222
@plushiewolf222 Жыл бұрын
lemme add more comments
@plushiewolf222
@plushiewolf222 Жыл бұрын
2nd
@liquidcashews
@liquidcashews Жыл бұрын
more comments
@Xenek.
@Xenek. Жыл бұрын
MORE!
@UnkRR
@UnkRR 5 ай бұрын
For anyone wondering the game had these White - 0 Brilliant - 0 Great - 1 Best - 2 Excellent - 0 Good - 1 Book - 0 Inaccuracy - 2 Mistakes - 76 Misses - 30 Blunders Black - 0 Brilliant - 0 Great - 1 Best - 1 Excellent - 0 Good - 1 Book - 2 Inaccuracy - 1 Mistake - 64 Miss - 42 Blunders
@arjundesamsetti7052
@arjundesamsetti7052 2 ай бұрын
lol
@legendsyt1498
@legendsyt1498 2 ай бұрын
All in all, black played worse even though he won lol
@Tem8697
@Tem8697 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, yeah. You can say that was this game. I know damn well it's mine though
@jessetrueba9578
@jessetrueba9578 Ай бұрын
How did they have any best moves?
@trollsansofficial
@trollsansofficial 8 күн бұрын
In a game of being garbage, being garbage wins
@xuhan0215
@xuhan0215 Жыл бұрын
Imagine being a horsey, hearing that stockfish promoted to you 5 times, and realizing what actually happened
@FancyHalcyon
@FancyHalcyon Жыл бұрын
"There are 4 horses grazing on the outskirts of the farmland" really got me xD
@vexof-carter9203
@vexof-carter9203 Жыл бұрын
Lol apparently i just learned the weakest of the major pieces
@Murimz
@Murimz Жыл бұрын
​@@vexof-carter9203 howd you just learn that its like the first thing one learns lmfao
@huh968
@huh968 Жыл бұрын
@@vexof-carter9203 depends, in closed games the bishop is the worst major piece
@diamante8864
@diamante8864 Жыл бұрын
The worst possible move :(
@enderking_13
@enderking_13 Жыл бұрын
Levy: * goes on a whole separate adventure making an entirely different game * Also levy:” *But that didn’t happen* “
@shadowplaxianthgaming3694
@shadowplaxianthgaming3694 Жыл бұрын
Bros pulling out an entire What If? episode on our asses on a chess video
@liam.28
@liam.28 Жыл бұрын
me watching the video following the moves when it gets set 20 moves back
@thebcwonder4850
@thebcwonder4850 Жыл бұрын
You should see his video on beating a cheater, bro pulled a Dr. Strange for every move he did during a blitz game
@formigant
@formigant Жыл бұрын
i just paused the video to look at the comments and just when i unpaused he said it, fucking hilarious
@Randombaconplayzz
@Randombaconplayzz 3 ай бұрын
**…**
@BadlyDrawnJack
@BadlyDrawnJack Жыл бұрын
15:14 The fact that the estimation bar found that this position was mate in 40 is astonishing.
@Tenshi122
@Tenshi122 Жыл бұрын
It's because after queen takes queen there are only 7 pieces left and stockfish probably had access to an endgame tablebase for 7 pieces.
@19o_19
@19o_19 Жыл бұрын
i was boutta comment this
@Pro_Existance
@Pro_Existance Жыл бұрын
I was going to comment this!
@fawzanulhaque483
@fawzanulhaque483 10 ай бұрын
That mate is easy. Like you just need to take queen and all horses and then Queen mate hoping that it would not be draw by 50- move rule. Only if White played best move it would take 40 moves but no computer other than few can play best move for 40 moves straight.
@cryptar
@cryptar 10 ай бұрын
16:18 mate in 45
@krugerstan
@krugerstan 9 ай бұрын
It really wasn't 100% clear, but I kept getting hints that the engine was programmed to play the worst possible move.
@Aaaaaaarrrpirate
@Aaaaaaarrrpirate 4 ай бұрын
@@krugerstan *mathematically
@Luffy267-p1d
@Luffy267-p1d 14 күн бұрын
*chessically
@Chillz011
@Chillz011 Жыл бұрын
Imagine looking at the game review and seeing you had 100 blunders
@mattgarcia7513
@mattgarcia7513 Жыл бұрын
45 inaccuracies, 71 mistakes, 100 blunders, 23 missed wins, 3 misdemeanors and a felony
@HC-jo7lq
@HC-jo7lq Жыл бұрын
@@mattgarcia7513 don’t forget the 3 war crimes
@joefawcett2191
@joefawcett2191 Жыл бұрын
@@WarriorOfAIIah wtf dude
@thatdude9091
@thatdude9091 Жыл бұрын
@@Ness_theperson 8,000,000 civilian deaths 1000,000,000 acres of farmland salted and burnt 80% of freshwater supplies poisoned
@S.sChaeos
@S.sChaeos Жыл бұрын
​@thatdude9091 OK sir, are you gonna start the Fourth Reich? Can I join?
@adodge2
@adodge2 Жыл бұрын
Would be interesting to find the worst possible move, knowing that the opponent was also trying to find the worst possible move. So, not just moves that hang pieces, but moves that force the opponent to make good moves. That would actually be anti-chess, and might even be an interesting game.
@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja
@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja Жыл бұрын
"anti-chess" I LOVE THAT CONCEPT
@whoknows1520
@whoknows1520 Жыл бұрын
@@jajajjajajjajjajajajaja it's an actual game mode that exists, not just a concept
@rohangeorge712
@rohangeorge712 Жыл бұрын
trying to force ur other opponent to checkmate you lmao, and a draw remains a draw. thats actually so funny
@aashd9245
@aashd9245 Жыл бұрын
​@@whoknows1520r/woooosh
@gulgaffel
@gulgaffel Жыл бұрын
​@@aashd9245get out.
@RizaBochiza
@RizaBochiza Жыл бұрын
12:18 Can we take a moment to appreciate how all of the pieces are avoiding the centre of the board like the plague?
@runic3063
@runic3063 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile that one pawn on d3:
@ezracohen6020
@ezracohen6020 Жыл бұрын
@@runic3063 who do you think has the plague, they are avoiding that pawn for a reason
@SaculxYT
@SaculxYT Жыл бұрын
15:19 mate in 40
@The-Person-Who-Asked
@The-Person-Who-Asked Жыл бұрын
even more so at 14:30
@wasifchowdhury2004
@wasifchowdhury2004 Жыл бұрын
The opposite of "try to control the center"
@YoussefGamerYT
@YoussefGamerYT 2 ай бұрын
14:32 Oh, there's a spider on my wall
@theunderpaidworker
@theunderpaidworker 2 ай бұрын
🕷️🗣️
@D.U.D.E.-LSTRMS
@D.U.D.E.-LSTRMS 2 ай бұрын
ADHD moment
@aakarshdeepak31
@aakarshdeepak31 Жыл бұрын
Petition to start an anti chess championship
@rage2904
@rage2904 Жыл бұрын
Antichess is already a variant on Lichess. The premise is that if you CAN capture you MUST capture. First player to run out of moves wins.
@snoozy04
@snoozy04 Жыл бұрын
😀
@emiel04
@emiel04 Жыл бұрын
@@rage2904 well then we call it something else
@jbarnes6570
@jbarnes6570 Жыл бұрын
chess needs a version where you gain points for losing each piece and you win by getting checkmated
@JigsawLV
@JigsawLV Жыл бұрын
As a kid I used to play poddavki with my father, it was basically anti-checkers, trying to be first to give all the pieces away
@TheAuraGiver
@TheAuraGiver Жыл бұрын
14:31 Levy can commentate a chess game and notice there’s a spider on the wall at the same time thats just how good he is
@thewierdragonbaby4843
@thewierdragonbaby4843 Жыл бұрын
lol
@flamedheat
@flamedheat Жыл бұрын
levy
@egorzhdanov6145
@egorzhdanov6145 Жыл бұрын
Meanwhile me in the same situation: お前はもう死んでいる。 Spider: 何?
@w花b
@w花b Жыл бұрын
​@@egorzhdanov6145 why are you writing in Japanese here bud'
@egorzhdanov6145
@egorzhdanov6145 Жыл бұрын
@@w花b Transcription: [omai wa mō shinde ru] [nani] Translation: - You already dead. - What?
@kjn3350
@kjn3350 Жыл бұрын
I like how this game actually looks more like an actual battle than a chess game, what with all the chaos and pawns in No-man's land, essentially sending the game full circle back to what it was originally trying to replicate.
@Spaizman
@Spaizman 11 ай бұрын
Battle of Verdun colorized
@Dexuz
@Dexuz 11 ай бұрын
Love me some actual battles where the king is completely surrounded by enemy troops.
@SubwaySurfer15
@SubwaySurfer15 10 ай бұрын
3 moves in and there’s checkmate😂
@azerty1933
@azerty1933 6 ай бұрын
​@@Dexuzwhen you read about such as Bouvines where Beauvais' Bishop charge the enemy to win the battle you get why they were added into chess
@whatami605
@whatami605 6 ай бұрын
you know there's a problem with this, when calculating the worst move the engines are still assuming that the opponent will play the best move he's given, it would be perfectly bad if the engine calculated according to the knowledge that opponent will play the worst move he's given
@rossdahboss1
@rossdahboss1 4 ай бұрын
Right? Like anti forcing moves, like checks that give up material
@GregorDWScott
@GregorDWScott Жыл бұрын
I wonder how the calculations would change if Stockfish knew the opponent would try to play the worst move too. Like hanging your Queen is bad, but if you know the opponent isn't going to take it then is there a worse move?
@e-cap1239
@e-cap1239 Жыл бұрын
The strategy would be to get into a position where you force the enemy king to capture your pieces
@mcd4984
@mcd4984 Жыл бұрын
I thought about that too, moves like Qxb5+ at 6:43 are probably the worst since they force the queen to be lost
@19reficul
@19reficul Жыл бұрын
**HORSE FIESTA INTENSIFIES**
@asj3419
@asj3419 Жыл бұрын
Conceptually, making stockfish do this would be very easy, just take the evaluation function (which gets the advantage score for each board) and just add a minus sign so that it just negates the score it gets. Because the same function is used for both stockfish and its opponent, this would mean that it should also simulate the opponent wanting to do the worst possible move. This honesty sounds like the easiest way to properly make a bad version of stockfish. (There is probably more to it than that, though) We do not know exactly what was done to stockfish in the submitted game (it having solved any version of chess is clickbait), a bad-at-being-worst version would be if it just picked the worst evaluated move from a normal version of stockfish. If a move is evidently bad enough right-of-the-bat, normal stockfish would just stop looking through how a opponent could respond, meaning it wouldn't actually know which one of the worst moves is actually the worst one.
@hanjiplayer
@hanjiplayer Жыл бұрын
If this game was programmed by reversing minimax into maximin, stocktish does know the opponent will try to play the worst move. I dont think it was however, it looks like he took the list of moves stockfish generated from a standard minimax or negemax algorithm and just picked the worst one
@Skeletonizer1200
@Skeletonizer1200 Жыл бұрын
You should do one where you force stockfish at its highest to play 10 worst possible moves and then try to win.
@PMA65537
@PMA65537 Жыл бұрын
They'd call it Magnusfish.
@truetex8398
@truetex8398 Жыл бұрын
If you play the worst possible moves against a normal opponent you are checkmated in 2 moves
@ardaehi
@ardaehi Жыл бұрын
any player can win against worstfish in 3 moves since it enables you to make fools mate
@fR33Sky
@fR33Sky Жыл бұрын
I say we post Magnus-Stockfish under each and every video until it happens!
@1.4142
@1.4142 Жыл бұрын
It would be fools mate
@peytonwilliams3113
@peytonwilliams3113 Жыл бұрын
It's ultra-surprising that the "worst move" was sometimes to take a piece. It seems like just any waiting move would generally be worse than winning material.
@MikeJones-vk3wz
@MikeJones-vk3wz Жыл бұрын
a lot of those cases involved hanging a more valuable piece in the process. Like using a queen to capture a defended pawn.
@shadowmil
@shadowmil Жыл бұрын
You will eventually run out of waiting moves.
@Raugturi
@Raugturi Жыл бұрын
It's because it isn't just purely the "worst move" in a vacuum. It's the "worst move given the assumption (which is incorrect in this case) that your opponent will play their best move". If you programmed it to anticipate the opponent doing the same thing then it would find a different set of worst moves, since it would want to favor outcomes that limit the opponent's bad moves. That would probably involve a lot more waiting moves rather than taking pieces.
@finn5568
@finn5568 Жыл бұрын
There are multiple worst moves sometimes, in case the enemy has mate in 1. In these cases it's quite likely a random worst move gets chosen which can also be taking a piece since it doesn't make a difference for stockfish.
@adolfflopper8577
@adolfflopper8577 Жыл бұрын
It werent actually the worst moves, because most of taking was made when both sides were hanging M1, so it didnt really matter what move will the stockfish make as long as it will still be M1.
@pablorey9203
@pablorey9203 7 ай бұрын
Amazing content as always. But... is worth noting 1. Stockfish strength relies on in great measure to its aggressive pruning. Avoiding the analysis of bad moves (supposed bad moves) from both sides. To play worse that pruning should be reversed. 2. Chess engines evaluate the position supposing that the opponent will make the best move... it should be rewritten to suppose the other side will make the worst move. 3. I guess the "principles", the parameters the software uses to evaluate a position (a leaf, a position that will not be "advanced) should be rewritten too. It should be reprogrammed to lose, not to play the worst he can find. I am writing this supposing that you do not know about decision /game trees (I mean in a programming sense, in the chess... it is just what you mean when you say "calculate a move"). It is very probable that you know what I am saying far better than me... in that case my apologies. Forgive my English.
@1e1001
@1e1001 Жыл бұрын
bar on the left became a turn indicator
@Sivaramachandran971
@Sivaramachandran971 8 ай бұрын
😂
@adityakachhwaha8614
@adityakachhwaha8614 7 ай бұрын
Bro this sentence is like truest sentence I heard in a while.... If that is even a word😂😅😂😅😂
@qazzaqstan
@qazzaqstan Жыл бұрын
The 5:00 is one of the more interesting parts of the game imo. With the queen already hanging the absolute worst thing to do is entomb your own pieces so they cannot join in the attack on the king, while weakening your light squares to ensure the king has the maximum number of escape routes. It is weirdly instructional in a way.
@midn8588
@midn8588 Жыл бұрын
I also find it funny how in the lategame, it found promoting to a knight to be frequently one of the worst moves since it removes your ability to promote to a queen
@samtheman123
@samtheman123 Жыл бұрын
The fact that it makes plans to set up making the worst possible moves is actually impressive
@lukasg4807
@lukasg4807 Жыл бұрын
It doesn't seem to know the opponent wants the same thing though. It should play to force the opponent to take its queen
@joefawcett2191
@joefawcett2191 Жыл бұрын
@@lukasg4807 would literally take an entire reprogramming of everything thats been done so far
@user-dh8oi2mk4f
@user-dh8oi2mk4f Жыл бұрын
@@joefawcett2191 Not necessarily. If you negate all leaf values from the search(i.e. a mate in the future gets counted as a loss, being mated counts as a win, winning a queen is losing, etc.) then all you really need to change is the evaluation function.
@vaclavjebavy5118
@vaclavjebavy5118 Жыл бұрын
jokes on you I set that up without even trying
@the_cheese_cultist
@the_cheese_cultist Жыл бұрын
​@@joefawcett2191you literally just need to negate the evaluation function.
@bearnbunnyrl
@bearnbunnyrl 6 ай бұрын
Levy: “i am not going to remind you every move that this is the WORST possible move” *continues to say every move that this is the worst possible move*
@vitaly5297
@vitaly5297 Жыл бұрын
Petition to make a second version of the worst game possible, but both sides must play the worst move that doesn’t blunder a forced checkmate
@MarcelAndrian
@MarcelAndrian Жыл бұрын
second worst move
@janogruby1086
@janogruby1086 Жыл бұрын
it would just be a draw
@Idk-hg8jr
@Idk-hg8jr Жыл бұрын
@@janogruby1086 chess, when played perfectly, ends in a draw
@sqrti8825
@sqrti8825 Жыл бұрын
'Worst moves that don't blunder a mate' is synonymous to 'best moves', provided that chess is a draw with best play.
@vitovitovito4927
@vitovitovito4927 Жыл бұрын
​@@sqrti8825 they are talking about making the worst moves that don't show a "M" in the eval
@poto744
@poto744 Жыл бұрын
I swear it's hilarious to just see the bar change from whos winning just change every single move
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 Жыл бұрын
That happens in normal games too! I’ve seen some wacky back and forth bars lol
@aspect359
@aspect359 Жыл бұрын
@@devdecker7812 skill issue
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 Жыл бұрын
@@aspect359 not gonna happen as much with people though, stockfish is a computer and you can guarantee each move will do that if it’s programmed to
@devdecker7812
@devdecker7812 Жыл бұрын
@@aspect359 I’m rated 712 and still going up I’m not too bad better than the average person right now
@arneshpal7702
@arneshpal7702 Жыл бұрын
​@@devdecker7812 skill issue
@jezixthepro
@jezixthepro 10 ай бұрын
The spider at 14:30 was so important Levy had to stop talking about the 4 horses
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 9 ай бұрын
bro had to divert his attention away from content, that's crazy
@brandontenorio3208
@brandontenorio3208 3 ай бұрын
First time anybody has said this
@hambone5shorts962
@hambone5shorts962 7 ай бұрын
14:30 “oh there’s a spider on my wall” 😂 😂
@RobertMiś-m7u
@RobertMiś-m7u 4 ай бұрын
@@hambone5shorts962 i thought noone would notice
@софа-р9ш
@софа-р9ш Жыл бұрын
Martin: finally, a worthy opponent
@Imjustaguy76510
@Imjustaguy76510 10 ай бұрын
Our battle will be legendary!
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 9 ай бұрын
the only time/way martin can beat stockfich (technically he would be better since he has 250 elo and mathematically, the worst elo possible is 100)
@Taib-Atte
@Taib-Atte Жыл бұрын
4:08 "RE-BLUNDERING checkmate" is crazy
@koyacrab
@koyacrab 8 ай бұрын
am i tripping or even black is blundering? black can take the white queen w its knight no?
@SG2048-meta
@SG2048-meta 8 ай бұрын
@@koyacrabit’s white’s turn. black could have taken the queen with the knight but didn’t so white could checkmate
@goldencheeze
@goldencheeze Жыл бұрын
Chess, but it’s a cold war and nobody actually wants to fight each other, and everybody has an obsession with horses
@cool-128
@cool-128 8 ай бұрын
14:32 you not gonna just stop by without saying "Hi, Mr. Wally Wallspider!"?
@bgfancommunity
@bgfancommunity Жыл бұрын
MrBeast: Finally a worthy opponent
@jeffreybezos7765
@jeffreybezos7765 Жыл бұрын
Dang
@LedionZogaj
@LedionZogaj Жыл бұрын
Lol
@poetrywithbennit
@poetrywithbennit Жыл бұрын
True
@alextersa
@alextersa Жыл бұрын
Why you everywhere
@test_0069
@test_0069 Жыл бұрын
???
@dry90125
@dry90125 Жыл бұрын
Seeing the 3 knights lined up was possibly the most cursed chess thing I’ve ever seen in my life
@Potato_neo
@Potato_neo Жыл бұрын
5
@saculo007
@saculo007 Жыл бұрын
I like the part when Levi explains that stockfish is playing the worst possible move instead of the best possible move
@SomeRandomDude821
@SomeRandomDude821 Жыл бұрын
LITERALLY the worst possible move
@lunatheluma3804
@lunatheluma3804 Жыл бұрын
Im unclear, is stockfish playin the best possible move here? Video should make it obvious
@matturban9077
@matturban9077 Жыл бұрын
I like the part where he shows the next 13 moves each side can make after every single move
@thibaud1832
@thibaud1832 10 ай бұрын
I had Mythbusters flashback.
@Galahad54
@Galahad54 7 ай бұрын
Are you sure? I'd like to have a timestamp on the one time where Levi says that.
@themarushin
@themarushin Жыл бұрын
Levy should show the "analyze stats" at the end to see the accuracy and the number of bad and worst moves done
@FlxmeT
@FlxmeT Жыл бұрын
Mistakes and blunders?
@condude2464
@condude2464 Жыл бұрын
"102 blunders"
@InkDrinkerProductions
@InkDrinkerProductions Жыл бұрын
Coach Bizarre Game - You and your Opponent are total scumbags, Both of you should get one braincell.
@Pantopam
@Pantopam Жыл бұрын
The accuracy will probably be a face. Know that episode in the "How to lose at chess" playlist? 😂
@Galahad54
@Galahad54 7 ай бұрын
But if the analysis stats use the same algo as the move pick algo, then every single move should be a brilliancy, with both players at 100%.
@decubing3111
@decubing3111 Жыл бұрын
This is an interesting idea but it would be better if stockfish could calculate knowing the opponent will choose the worst move himself!
@Dan42069
@Dan42069 Жыл бұрын
This is what I was thinking!
@cthonianmessiah
@cthonianmessiah Жыл бұрын
Agreed, I think that the game would look quite different if both sides were trying to prevent the opponent from having any losing moves.
@stealthemoon8899
@stealthemoon8899 Жыл бұрын
Ooh
@MyNameIsEarl-os7hg
@MyNameIsEarl-os7hg Жыл бұрын
I had the same idea but you explained it better than me. I was thinking to make it play to try to force the opponent to win with checkmate, if that's even possible
@ashwinnaidoo796
@ashwinnaidoo796 Жыл бұрын
Yes there were times where white could force the black king to take it and same with the black Queen and white king
@avroarrow1528
@avroarrow1528 Жыл бұрын
I’m sadistically wondering if you did this with mismatched engines what would happen. Would the stronger engine succeed in losing more efficiently?
@inviikai2694
@inviikai2694 Жыл бұрын
Dang it now I wanna know too
@WhoTookQuwhu
@WhoTookQuwhu 10 ай бұрын
Anything that isn't worstfish regardless of it's ELO strength would win
@ColsonPark
@ColsonPark 8 ай бұрын
the bar probably got whiplash
@JackBond1234
@JackBond1234 Жыл бұрын
I'd like to see an AI that chooses the most losing move with the assumption that the opponent is trying to lose first. They'd probably find ways to compel the opponent to mate them, such as by checking the opponent where their only valid move is to mate back
@EEEEEEEE
@EEEEEEEE Жыл бұрын
E
@stephanedegremont4961
@stephanedegremont4961 11 ай бұрын
Or they would play the longest game ever (assuming that they would avoid position repetition)
@TheLastBawa
@TheLastBawa 9 ай бұрын
09:03 You expecting me, a 350 ELO player to see that mate in 10? Nah.
@cobwabag1011
@cobwabag1011 4 ай бұрын
I'm a 193 elo player lil bro
@theliaroftruthfulness5167
@theliaroftruthfulness5167 4 ай бұрын
​@@cobwabag1011Yea well I'm a -1800 elo player, get better lil bro
@RosenbergDev
@RosenbergDev 4 ай бұрын
You guys receive ELO? I have a null exception popping up 💀
@user-pt2el1tt1r
@user-pt2el1tt1r 3 ай бұрын
​@@theliaroftruthfulness5167 Did you miss rook a6?
@Turtoile41
@Turtoile41 2 ай бұрын
Clearly you're not taking it seriously if you can't see a checkmate in 57^9 moves
@freyamiles3718
@freyamiles3718 Жыл бұрын
"I'm not going to remind you every turn it's playing the worst move possible every turn" proceeds to do it every over turn
@reshuram4353
@reshuram4353 Жыл бұрын
well he technically wasn't lying; he did indeed not do it every turn
@jellylovecz5475
@jellylovecz5475 2 ай бұрын
This is no longer a battle. This is a double family dinner with a minor incident.
@Pro_Existance
@Pro_Existance Жыл бұрын
16:10 The fact that a 87 ADVANTAGE even exists is CRAZY!
@Imjustaguy76510
@Imjustaguy76510 10 ай бұрын
Me playing any EA made game without donate and my enemy (who donated) goes like :87 ADVANTAGE
@TahaShakir2
@TahaShakir2 9 ай бұрын
Ive had a 112 advantage once XD
@Pro_Existance
@Pro_Existance 9 ай бұрын
@@TahaShakir2 wat.
@ИльяКостюшин-ю2ь
@ИльяКостюшин-ю2ь 4 ай бұрын
​@@TahaShakir2how? 9 queens?
@delayedhoe9714
@delayedhoe9714 4 ай бұрын
@@ИльяКостюшин-ю2ь 9 queens has to be forced mate lol. I'm pretty sure such a big advantage is just a forced mate a low depth engine hasn't found yet
@amitgalor
@amitgalor Жыл бұрын
I think it can be even better: Currently it chooses the move that gives the opponent the biggest advantage, but the advantage is calculated given the opponent's best move. We should program stockfish to choose the worst move given that the opponent *also* plays the worst move. e.g. a great move would be to *force* the opponent to take a piece or get closer to mating you.
@lightlysal
@lightlysal Жыл бұрын
Antichess is already a thing, and I hear it's already been solved
@TheSGod
@TheSGod Жыл бұрын
@@lightlysal is there any videos on antichess
@yetischwein
@yetischwein Жыл бұрын
@@lightlysal This is not the same as antichess. Because in antichess capturing is compulsory and there are a few more special rules.
@lightlysal
@lightlysal Жыл бұрын
@@yetischwein oh u right u right
@samthorne3765
@samthorne3765 Жыл бұрын
Took me until the very end of the video to figure out the premise that Stockfish was LITERALLY programmed to make the worst move possible!. Really wish you'd said it 140 more times so that I hadn't missed that :(
@EEEEEEEE
@EEEEEEEE Жыл бұрын
E
@B16Dominoes
@B16Dominoes 11 ай бұрын
E
@Rocksbythethird
@Rocksbythethird 11 ай бұрын
E
@froxdoggaming3385
@froxdoggaming3385 11 ай бұрын
F
@Dexuz
@Dexuz 11 ай бұрын
:(
@Dr.Tylller
@Dr.Tylller 2 ай бұрын
"Oh, there's a spider on my wall" 😂
@10kirneh
@10kirneh Жыл бұрын
Take a shot every time Levy reminds us that the engines are playing the worst possible moves.
@gab___.
@gab___. Жыл бұрын
ahsjssks,,slla,s.ospa;
@DarkGamer-sx7gp
@DarkGamer-sx7gp Жыл бұрын
I’m a child 😐
@chloesmith4065
@chloesmith4065 Жыл бұрын
Not trying to die of alcohol poisoning tonight!
@joep2999
@joep2999 Жыл бұрын
There should be another edition of this where stockfish knows the opponent is going to pick the worst response, and picks the worst move with that in mind. Instead of attempting to blunder the game assuming the opponent is going to be reasonable, each side will be trying to force the opponent to win against their will.
@UpperChores
@UpperChores Жыл бұрын
16:19 connect 3 knight variation, first time to ever happen POG
@ineophobe
@ineophobe 8 ай бұрын
this is what my brain cells are doing when I need them to work
@just-swichi
@just-swichi Жыл бұрын
Levy: I'm not gonna remind you that stockfish will play the worst possible move Also Levy after every move : bEcAuSe iT's PrOhRaMeD tO pLaY tHe WoRsT pOsSiBlE mOvE
@TristanSune
@TristanSune Жыл бұрын
His commentary made this video unbearable
@nunyabusiness9699
@nunyabusiness9699 Жыл бұрын
This should be a part of game review along with Great moves and Brilliant moves, like a triple question mark that says you played the worst possible move in that position.
@davidthecommenter
@davidthecommenter Жыл бұрын
(?!?) Throw
@Shilpa_Kujur
@Shilpa_Kujur Жыл бұрын
Ever heard of a.......blunder?
@boaz5898
@boaz5898 Жыл бұрын
@@Shilpa_Kujur not every blunder is the worst possible move he’s saying a blunder so bad you couldn’t make a move that was worse
@Shilpa_Kujur
@Shilpa_Kujur Жыл бұрын
@@boaz5898 That I get, but the triple question mark is literally the symbol of a blunder.
@baboolcha3330
@baboolcha3330 Жыл бұрын
​@@Shilpa_Kujur no, the symbol of blunder is double question mark
@Emric_MC
@Emric_MC Жыл бұрын
Another great example of how chess played perfectly is a draw.
@TheChosenOne20100
@TheChosenOne20100 Жыл бұрын
But white got checkmated wdym...
@lzk4891
@lzk4891 Жыл бұрын
@@TheChosenOne20100 the bots were programmed to end the game in endgame so that a draw doesnt happen
@Emric_MC
@Emric_MC Жыл бұрын
@@TheChosenOne20100 yes but he said that if they continued to play the worst moves it would be adraw obviously
@Paradoxical_Singularities
@Paradoxical_Singularities 4 ай бұрын
I love how GothamChess says "Oh, there's a spider on my wall"
@pride1069
@pride1069 Жыл бұрын
I was really hoping you were going to show the M39 with the 3 knights lol
@noped3079
@noped3079 Жыл бұрын
27*
@kazuro3949
@kazuro3949 Жыл бұрын
i wanted to see the mate in 40
@StraightEdgeZap
@StraightEdgeZap Жыл бұрын
my engine showed m28 as follows: 1. kxf3 kb4 2. nc2+ kc5 3. nc7 kd6 4. nde6 ke5 5. ne3 kf6 6. ke4 kg6 7. ncd5 kf7 8. kf5 ke8 9. ke5 kd7 10. ndc7 kc6 11. ned5 kd7 12. nd4 kc8 13. kd6 kb8 14. kc6 kc8 15. nde6 kb8 16. nb6 ka7 17. nc5 kb8 18. n5a6+ ka7 19. nc8# the checkmate position is with the knights on a6, c7, and c8, white king on c6, black king on a7
@memeisneed
@memeisneed Жыл бұрын
@@StraightEdgeZap 🤓
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj
@dhruvacharya-wx4bj Жыл бұрын
@@StraightEdgeZap thanks this changed my life
@Orrinn123
@Orrinn123 Жыл бұрын
It would be really cool to see if the objective was TO LOSE and not to just make the worst move each move. That way Stockfish would find a way to force the opponent to take his pieces and possibly even a way to force the opponent to checkmate. Would be interesting
@dennisbadzi1993
@dennisbadzi1993 Жыл бұрын
Levy never disappoints
@r0ckybradley
@r0ckybradley Жыл бұрын
Ikr
@NBDFRMNWR
@NBDFRMNWR Жыл бұрын
Agreed
@_.overhaul.codm._
@_.overhaul.codm._ Жыл бұрын
npc ahh
@crystaltytk3900
@crystaltytk3900 Жыл бұрын
Fails to*
@dasMoschustier
@dasMoschustier Жыл бұрын
@@mlgtactics9911 Because it would be a good move.
@laurenfischer2277
@laurenfischer2277 2 күн бұрын
5:56 That’s because all the best games end in a draw
@hendrikjung1053
@hendrikjung1053 Жыл бұрын
15:14 can we just talk about the stockfish normal version found a mate in 40 for black?
@Noa5355
@Noa5355 Жыл бұрын
Dam 🦫
@MONGODRoidKF
@MONGODRoidKF 7 ай бұрын
Init don't know how he didn't mention that
@user-pt2el1tt1r
@user-pt2el1tt1r 3 ай бұрын
Mate in 40? I can barely solve Mate in 4 😭😭
@tit0313
@tit0313 Жыл бұрын
The game graph must look like a heart attack
@mrredman744
@mrredman744 Жыл бұрын
I’m already dying after the queen tries to hang itself but black just moves it’s king all throughout the center 😂
@dawgdetector
@dawgdetector Ай бұрын
Worst possible chess move is forcing your opponent in a series of chain movements to take your own piece
@bobtheblob13
@bobtheblob13 10 ай бұрын
This feels like 2 people are arguing to let the other person win
@kazii_the_avali
@kazii_the_avali Жыл бұрын
i would love a worstfish+martin vs worstfish+martin each one taking turns playing a move.
@PantsEzTbh
@PantsEzTbh Жыл бұрын
“I think drunk stockfish when programmed to lose, just really likes ponies.” Dude that line made me laugh hysterically.
@kotara3904
@kotara3904 6 ай бұрын
“The worst chess game mathematically possible” my guy, you haven’t seen my games yet.
@thedudeguy242
@thedudeguy242 Жыл бұрын
It'd be great to see a version of this where the goal is to force the opponent to checkmate your king and take your pieces.
@Mateo-kf1ud
@Mateo-kf1ud Жыл бұрын
antichess and self-mate puzzles are the closest you can get to that
@kingofdeath854
@kingofdeath854 Жыл бұрын
The people who worked hard to create the smartest chess AI to find moves that even humans cant fine , watching this video : 👁👄👁
@Good_at_night
@Good_at_night Жыл бұрын
Is not fine is find and CUM is Crime Uproot Ministry In roblox
@prohz9129
@prohz9129 Жыл бұрын
To be fair even the worst of us can't find these moves either😂
@kingofdeath854
@kingofdeath854 Жыл бұрын
@@prohz9129 yeah that's next level of greatest that this two bots achieved 😂
@SkimLuca
@SkimLuca Жыл бұрын
It would be even more interesting if they both stockfish know that the opponent will play the worst move (it doesn't seem like that now, for example in the opening Qe1 with the intent of Qh4 to lose the queen wouldn't make sense)
@pinadesecada2585
@pinadesecada2585 Жыл бұрын
I though this would be the rule
@jake8217
@jake8217 Жыл бұрын
​@@pinadesecada2585 That's impossible.
@dasMoschustier
@dasMoschustier Жыл бұрын
@@jake8217 It's not impossible. Although it would not change a whole lot.
@DingLiren1992
@DingLiren1992 Жыл бұрын
​@@dasMoschustierit would actually change a lot
@jake8217
@jake8217 Жыл бұрын
@@dasMoschustier impossible in the sense that "play the worst move possible on each turn" with the goal of "losing the game" is not compatible. In this video, they just had to play the objectively worst move on each turn, they weren't trying to lose. Otherwise it is like saying, I am trying to reach somewhere by walking away from there.
@Tanjiro_Kamado_good
@Tanjiro_Kamado_good Ай бұрын
"four horses just standing around grazing on the out skrts- oh theres a spider on my wall" XD 14:25
@AbsoluteGaming_
@AbsoluteGaming_ Жыл бұрын
9:11 bro think's he's hikaru💀
@V88King
@V88King 3 ай бұрын
The Minutes and seconds.💀🛫🏢🏢
@AbsoluteGaming_
@AbsoluteGaming_ 3 ай бұрын
@@V88King AYOO
@v0lny886
@v0lny886 2 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly
@someone8206
@someone8206 Жыл бұрын
14:31 truly beautiful move: the spider dance
@midgetplant281
@midgetplant281 Жыл бұрын
the fact that the black king found a way to run to the centre of the board at the very start and stay there, fail to be protected for the entire game, and then still force a checkmate is truly brilliant stuff
@G-man-w7k
@G-man-w7k 4 ай бұрын
My little cousins:we are crazy at chess There game play:
@talphazero1036
@talphazero1036 Жыл бұрын
14:39 The Rook figured out the code was broken and stood in the corner horrified by the madness of the other pieces, poor thing...
@blueIceblues
@blueIceblues Жыл бұрын
I love how Levi skill-fully ignores how much of an existential crisis the eval is having.
@jnmarshmello2728
@jnmarshmello2728 Жыл бұрын
In a high level game the eval bar is unmoving, in this it is like banging a child against 2 walls
@Faunarr
@Faunarr Жыл бұрын
@@jnmarshmello2728 why would you bang a child?
@Kezonme
@Kezonme 8 ай бұрын
14:32 I love how he calmly says “Oh, there is a spider on my wall.”
@__8120
@__8120 Жыл бұрын
The fact that you didn't show the eval graph for this match is absolutely criminal
@masonnewell8571
@masonnewell8571 Жыл бұрын
I feel like knowing the worst move each turn is just as valuable as knowing what exactly to do each turn.
@dapygor9339
@dapygor9339 Жыл бұрын
It sounds like the most useless superpower
@obnoxas
@obnoxas 11 ай бұрын
I did not consider how painful this would be to watch. This is art.
@thatpotatoguyyt
@thatpotatoguyyt 4 ай бұрын
this was all programmed to anticipate the GREATEST opposition move, but what if you programmed it to EXPECT its opponent to make the worst possible move? that would be legendary
@Rizzo077
@Rizzo077 Жыл бұрын
Martin is like "finally a worthy opponent"
@FryanGosling
@FryanGosling Жыл бұрын
Martin will still find a way to fumble this one.
@CyberchaoX
@CyberchaoX Жыл бұрын
It seems like in order to keep it from going on forever, they programmed it to always advance the position when possible to do so without failing at its mission. Like when given the choice between blundering mate in 1 while taking a piece and blundering mate in 1 _without_ taking a piece, it'll always choose the former. For example, at 13:44, the computer opts for dxe1=N, when it could've gone so much worse with d1=N. Because it's still programmed to assume its opponent makes the best possible moves, which makes both moves equal as neither of them stops Qxb2#. A nice touch.
@BrooksMoses
@BrooksMoses 10 ай бұрын
Interesting observation! It doesn't sound like that was intentional, though, so I wonder if it's that Stockfish considers blundering mate in 1 to be equally bad regardless of the piece count (which would be a sensible thing to do -- you program it to avoid forced mates first, and then use the heuristics like piece count to choose between the moves that don't blunder forced mates), and then due to a programming oversight, some tiebreaker code in Stockfish that applies when there's a "tie" result of multiple equally-scored moves is still playing to win (by capturing pieces) rather than playing to lose.
@COBALT-SPECTATE
@COBALT-SPECTATE 3 ай бұрын
Martin even disapproves of this 💀💀💀
@thefidgetspinnerofdoom
@thefidgetspinnerofdoom Жыл бұрын
Aw man, I really wanted to see the accuracy rating and the number of blunders made
@DJsocial7102
@DJsocial7102 Жыл бұрын
0% and every move lol
@abdulmoizkhan8938
@abdulmoizkhan8938 Жыл бұрын
I will re create the game and look for my self and tell you 😂
@shortvibeos
@shortvibeos Жыл бұрын
@@abdulmoizkhan8938 im waiting
@sohamthakur727
@sohamthakur727 Жыл бұрын
​@@abdulmoizkhan8938take your time, ill wait
@Ledion-RE
@Ledion-RE Жыл бұрын
@@abdulmoizkhan8938 im also waiting
@Nick-md4uv
@Nick-md4uv Жыл бұрын
17:07 should’ve played Qe6 stalemate if stockfish was doing the worst moves
@ITz_Tahmid
@ITz_Tahmid Жыл бұрын
The eval bar in the whole video: 📈📉📈📉📈📉
@JohnNess7730
@JohnNess7730 8 ай бұрын
I'd love to see a lose-to-win chess match, where you have to force your opponent into checkmating you
@qwertlle360
@qwertlle360 Жыл бұрын
16:10 I know for a fact that Qd2+ is the worst move as it forces the black king to capture. I am literally better than stockfish at finding the worst moves
@Small_Schlonng_9000
@Small_Schlonng_9000 Жыл бұрын
It doesn’t mean it’s worse. The queen is still being sacked
@indoorsmc
@indoorsmc Жыл бұрын
"THERE ARE FOUR HORSES JUST GRAZING- oh there's a spider on my wall - JUST GRAZING ON THE OUTSKIRTS...." a real levy moment
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