Magnus Carlsen vs 2500 GM: The Difference

[@superdan2593]

When I started playing, I saw chess as a strategic, tactical game but the more I learn about chess the more I think it's a memory game.

[@brianli6562]

It is. Just the greatest memory game of all.

[@hindustanimapper]

Only the openings involve "remembering" stuff.

[@user-dy1vf7lu3i]

It’s memory in the opening and mid game, but pure strategy at the endgame I would say.

[@chapter1564]

Really just the opening and a bit of the middlegame

[@AysarAburrub]

memorization is why Bobby Fischer said he hated chess.

[@momentomoridoth2007]

I don't sit at a sports bar and analyze chess matches, but I do sit at home with a beer and do that.

[@anthonyg1111]

Magnus immediately plays Nc3... but first he castles

[@Chessheromusic]

Technically completely wrong Also technically not breaking the 4th wall bc no other reality was established to break

[@wiggywu]

What did I learn? That I know nothing.

[@manuelmager8627]

Life goal: watch Levy talk about chess at 102 years of age.

[@MeritedMasterOfTheUSSR]

Easy

[@joakimjensen309]

I'll join you in this quest

[@sussybussybakadesu]

Watch Levy talk about Magnus at 102 years.

[@YonkoLillard]

Glazing

[@joshuasobirey5790]

Tho rephrase that: Watch Levy not be a GM at 102 years of age

[@UIM_Loki]

chiming in to say that i rarely watch chess videos, but the title kind of hooked me. the way you prefaced the game and got to the first few moves with stats such as "the last time magnus played this opening was 19 years ago" was definitely intriguing. once you got me to rook a to e1 i was done for. i was kind of expecting a video of a broader look at chess ratings, but you successfully kept my attention through what ended up being a somewhat normal style chess analysis video. huge props man for being able to do that

[@nickcashman2908]

Weird stumpling on a chess video as i never watch or play any of it. Even weirder to recognize someone it the comments

[@toptier2800]

This guy knows how to make chess suspenseful

[@sortakindaunique]

LOKI

[@UIM_Loki]

@@sortakindaunique it’s a pleasure and an honor 🙏

[@EvilLevil56]

GM or GM (whichever comes GM)

[@shayanmukherjee9672]

This video reminded me of just how good Levy is at genuinely analyzing a chess game. Through most of his videos, we get to see his entertaining side, which is fine, but occasionally, it's great to see him do a 30-minute deep dive into one chess game. Hope he does this more, and for really interesting tournaments like the ECCC.

[@icarusflying1814]

Agree

[@iscrampad2194]

@@icarusflying1814😕

[@JacobsKrąnųg]

bro anyone can analyze games using stockfish like levy

[@TobiK9826]

@@JacobsKrąnųgso you wouldve been able to explain why trading off the bishops was the one thing that tipped the scales in magnus favor 25 moves later? Doubt it

[@raylopez99]

I second that. My least favorite Gotham series is the "Guess the Elo" watching patzers play. I'm 2100 (on LiChess).

[@pepethefrog6837]

14:43 petition for levy to make one whole episode with this character

[@remakesonly]

@@pepethefrog6837 hahahahh accent is spot on

[@JuiceWRLDbutNotDeadAndNotHim]

I would pay to watch that commentary

[@Gamemaster15568]

@@JuiceWRLDbutNotDeadAndNotHimOF but it’s just levy talking in that accent?

[@LouigiVerona]

Let's do it 😂

[@taylorstauffer900]

100% signed!

[@nerfedirl]

I like how Levy managed to up himself above GM title, after not achieving it, well played sir edit: I did not misspell Levy's name, carry on

[@filipzukanovic7124]

😂😂😂😂 npc

[@zGamer_YT.]

he hasnt? his rating is 2200 fide..

[@tothestars8528]

@@zGamer_YT.2430 max or smth like that

[@fhdangerfh9676]

Bro really want the pin of shame

[@mightychungusuchiha6795]

@@zGamer_YT. rewatch the intro

[@Skullshards]

14:40 - That commentary sounded like the F1 commentators at a Little Tikes circuit, and I'm here for it!

[@kiliabgonzalez7826]

Shout out to levy for showcasing new and upcoming grandmasters. This Magnos guy seems like he’s got a bright future ahead of him.

[@mangomasteris3820]

Mango you mean good sir

[@rikkumar3476]

ngl i likr carlos magnusson more@@mangomasteris3820

[@oliver-04]

Mignis*

[@cslearn3044]

Maguns*

[@nightshadow9713]

Magnet*

[@joeloveschess479]

As an 1800 im starting to appreciate Magnus's universalstyle very much. He was Garry(Re1) + Karpov(prophylactic a3) + Fischer(aggressive g4 after since he had a tempo)

[@woodymullons7587]

@@joeloveschess479 wtf does that mean can you explain or have any info I can look into it?I just stared playing chess like 3 weeks ago, I do apologize if that’s a silly question.

[@emilyscloset2648]

​@@woodymullons7587 Just listing fanous chess players with certain styles. Look up Garry Kasparov or Anatoly Karpov or Bobby Fischer. Karpov and Kaaparov famously played each other many times including for the world champion title several times

[@stevenlakes8737]

@@woodymullons7587 Gary was a fierce attacker, Karpov was a highly positional boa constrictor like player, and Fischer was not afraid to sacrifice material to constantly apply urgent and deadly pressure. Magnus is just so well rounded! You should look up Levy's videos on Karpov vs Kasporov and that will definitely help you understand how each player has their own style. Hope this helps!

[@KS_Harshith]

Can we appreciate Magnus for continuing to playing chess so that Levi can continue his job?

[@asimmoideen5960]

who's levi?

[@Taigu1306]

brrruhhhhh its gotham chess's real name@@asimmoideen5960

[@blk-sandi]

@@Taigu1306 nah bro that's not his name 💀

[@Taigu1306]

@@blk-sandi its aaaaa jokeeeee

[@Taigu1306]

@@blk-sandi iiiiii knoooooow

[@Ryanmuniverse]

Levy, can u pls keep this sort of content coming? A more in depth analysis of just a game or two. This is where I learn the most from you. Even if it's not just Magnus, this is the type of content i love most from ur channel. And probably the most informative in terms of learning chess (for me at least)

[@1MinutoFutbol]

As someone who guessed Bb1 correctly I consider myself the second greatest player after Magnus. Also I am 800 rated.

[@erikk17]

Sure only possible problem is that we would hang a Queen after knight takes pawn on e5.

[@tannerbenson7864]

I think that if anyone could find a way to hang a queen on move 1, it would be an 800. (I'm currently like 1150 in rapid, BTW)

[@dvxv4016]

​@@tannerbenson7864 I don't think any rating under 1200-1300 is accurate. Like I played 1000's that play better than 1250's because it's complete chaos here. 1300+ is when people stop doing stupid mistakes

[@r011ing_thunder6]

Ah yes, I too suffer from the dunning Kruger effect

[@Aufbleiben]

I saw it too but when Ravi moved pawn h6 I realized I still have no idea what to follow that up with

[@joshpointoh]

I think Super GM is already a pretty accepted term. For the past 15 or 20 years, 2700 has been the line between GM and Super GM to most chess fans, I think.

[@TurbineFlyer]

I love how super Grandmaster isn't official, but everyone knows what it is

[@keonix_]

Or we can say who is it!

[@RichardGadsden]

For decades, grandmaster and master weren't official, but everyone knew what they were.

[@theaxehandle1]

At this point we even need a title above that, MGM Magnus Grand Master. He's the only person in history to maintain a rating above 2800 this long.

[@Sir_wood_I]

@@theaxehandle1 Just name em, GM-1(Grandmaster-1), GM-2(Grandmaster-2) and even beyond that is GM-3(Grandmaster-3). And beyond that would be GM-G(Grandmaster-God), then even beyond that would be GM-B(Grandmaster-Blue).

[@SquireVorak]

@@Sir_wood_I You forgot GM-UI (Ultra Instinct), but I like where this is going.

[@FermisAxiom]

The mindgames here are insane: - The fake pawn push with the double rooks while actually just setting a roadblock of the pawns to coax a desperate sacrifice at some point - The fakeout with the queen and rook to the left to make it look like his real plan was to shift to infiltrate into black's ranks starting with the queen and then barreling with the rook and bishop, purposely keeping his own queen also on the dark squares to sell it. I wonder if Magnus had kept those fakes as potential real options or if he was deadset on the bishop/queen threat. That knight guarding all the key dark squares worked so perfectly, knowing Ravi's queen was going to act as a dark bishop, but simultaneously it would only take one move to get the knight to attacking some light squares in Ravi's ranks. Same with the bishop just one move from targeting any light squares... Magnus probably kept all options viable on purpose... such incredible precision...

[@skule7760]

14:43 petition for levy to be a chess commentator!

[@think1116]

WOW! This might just be your best game analysis till now Levy. Very instructional and very entertaining! I follow you for nearly two years now and you keep improving. Well done buddy!

[@ValiantNoob]

Can we just take a moment and give props to Ravi. Man played an over an hour against Magnus and had an equal position.

[@sams.975]

I love that word "alien" to describe some of Magnus's moves. Moves that are incomprehensible, otherworldly, and counterintuitive, but with deep and powerful logic underpinning them. That he can find correct moves this weird and subtle is a monument to his chess abilities.

[@redblue5140]

how are they "incomprehensible, otherworldly, and counterintuitive" if there's "deep and powerful logic" behind them. youre not making sense

[@bobnoobito5643]

​@@redblue5140they seem incomprehensible, otherworldly, and counterintuitive at first glance, but upon closer inspection, we find that there is deep and powerful logic behind them

[@videofabriken]

That you manage to keep me entertained for 30minutes watching magnus play a game vs a 2500 is more impressive than this game

[@executivelifehacks6747]

Dude could talk about paint drying and make me more interested about it than Chael Sonnen could. I just discovered Levy. Props.

[@maciejpieskasta493]

​​@@executivelifehacks6747yeah exactly . I only remember 2 channels like that. Gotham chess and there was a second one but it just fell outta my head Edit NOW I REMEMBER Second channel is 3klicksphilip!

[@jacovichstabs841]

I don't think anyone over 2700 maybe 2800 needs a unique title. There's only really a handful of people in the world with those super high ratings and they're already known by name. A new title would be superfluous for them.

[@shaokhanwins1037]

Theres around 130 grandmasters rated 2700 and above. There was a time fide only had 80 Grandmasters. Fide had only awarded the GM title about 2000 times, and there are currently about 1700 living grandmasters. So just 50 years ago there were only a few hundred grandmasters, about the same number as "super grandmasters" today. Eventually, there will most likely be plenty of them in the future.

[@villyexplorer9482]

Chess actually is televised in Norway. Most big tournaments that Magnus participates in

[@marcussg0813]

Hvilken kanal?

[@villyexplorer9482]

@@marcussg0813 er det ikke tv2 sport stort sett? Fulgt med en del på tv2 play. Nrk dekker også VM som regel

[@thepianoman318]

nrk, hvertfall i juletider@@marcussg0813

[@aayushpratapsingh5860]

The only man who entertains for 30 min. Straight with no down sides, with chess knowledge.... Its still a dream for many other youtubers

[@Myrslokstok]

Sometimes without a cut, wich is true mastery!

[@eisenapatan9171]

The move at 9:48 was just peak Magnus. This shows why he's the GOAT

[@redwanurrahaman8644]

And levy's explanation was also good

[@moqo]

The psychic damage incurred that forced the junk into the eye was indeed a move unseen in the chess world

[@mydogniko]

Levy's ability to predict Magnus' moves is absolutely spot on. He really has super GM qualities...🤫

[@Tidbit0123]

Not sure if you're joking, but he knows the moves ahead of time...

[@Keya_]

He didn't predict, he already knew.

[@mydogniko]

@Tidbit0123 yeah...sarcasm can be lost over text unfortunately. I just really lol'd when he said he 'thinks' he figured out Magnus' game plan when he made the re1 move...and then sure enough the bishop move comes right after his 'theory' lmao.

[@mydogniko]

@Keya_ of course he already knew but that's not how he presented it.

[@Tidbit0123]

@@mydogniko I think he was more referring to the why, not the what in that case. But yeah I can understand what you mean

[@ucevrim]

This also applies to martial arts. There are black belt jiu jitsu practitioners who trains casually and eventually they get a black belt and professionals who trains for a living. They are both on paper black belts but when they roll it looks like one of them is a beginner.

[@peterflom6878]

I really like these longer analyses of single games

[@user-ee1lo1il3f]

the little Qe3 shift is beautiful. just casually stepping out of any tactics while deflecting opponent's queen back to the queen side, which then enables the king side attack.

[@keerthanas4144]

"this move is fascinating cuz it looks stupid" Levyy ma mannn just called my entire chess match fascinating!

[@piotrrywczak]

I'm also on my quest to become a grandmaster. I started playing only 2 years ago during the pandemic and I'm already 800! My future is surely bright.

[@whocares2277]

400 per year, in 10 years you'll be 4000. That's how extrapolations work, right?

[@tsukigva6130]

well, that's actually brilliant, you got 800! elo, which is around 7.7153×10¹⁹⁷⁶

[@yassir6359]

Yo will become one of the best players in 7 years . In 9 years you will be unstoppable

[@piotrrywczak]

Guys wish me luck, another guy blundered his queen and I'm at 874!

[@T.bearcat]

Me started chess one year ago and reached 900: 👁️👄👁️

[@JHank-yb4jv]

A monologue doesn’t break the fourth wall until the audience is explicitly acknowledged. Not all YT videos do that

[@herpothefoul9606]

As a 25 elo player I can confirm that Magnet destroyed me in chess

[@Tratt3s]

Is Magnet the Magnus of tinfoil elo?

[@axtra9561]

Magnet Charleston

[@herosplays7981]

0:03 totally not levy coping for anything

[@MrDeerbomb]

Well most subscribed KZbinr could also mean highest income chess player. In a sense, it's better to have more money than an arbitrary title that doesn't mean anything in the real world. No hate on super GMs, but it's just the reality of this world

[@lucasurbanski7364]

Your last video on this same topic is one of my favorites of yours--I'm so glad to see another! Thank you Levy, these are always some of the most instructive games

[@mahfuzali643]

Levy's British accent is surprisingly fantastic, coming from a Brit

[@Extmajor]

not a brit but same

[@jjlightnin1]

Alagash white is one of my favorite beers and, if it were available, I would definitely watch classical chess at a sports bar 😂

[@gregorybattis9588]

Few GM's ive seen who are able to pull a game like this Kasparov, Karpov, Fischer, and Carlsen the only ones I have seen able to do this to another GM on a dime. One of the best games ive seen a positional masterpiece.

[@scriptself6092]

What would Levi do without this magus guy😔

[@Hahahahaha1153]

Not funny

[@NfShf]

@@Hahahahaha1153 agreed. for real

[@theskull1281]

Magus

[@GadoGD]

i ship levi x magus

[@Kilb-o3u]

Tru

[@chrispalmer9589]

@15:00 - love that the sports bar chss enthusiasts are British :)

[@supadupahilton6848]

Yeah, can't equate chess with the NFL. Taylor Swift won't run out (confetti raining) and make out with you following the big win 😂

[@TheKyleBrah]

Magnus: Is 200+ Points Elo higher than opponent. Rare Openings: Unlocked

[@kamikaz1k]

Never seen a chess breakdown like this. Love your enthusiasm. Keep up the good work!

[@ostrados]

Chess is a great sport to watch after the match and hear game analysis, that's why chess organizers and those profiting from it need to think differently than normal sports. As Levy said, nobody is going to set hour and a half spectating a match of chess, but so many people are watching streamers analyzing games. They need to think outside the box, without ruining classical chess either wither by just blitzing the game or doing anything crazy!!

[@plumber1337]

It is exactly as you said Levy: understand where the pawn breakthroughs are, to induce specific ideas, because after it happens, the strategy becomes something else.

[@Goatz99]

as a brit ur gravely northern english accent is starting to grow on me, you've improved so much, keep it up

[@Abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz1-_0]

Fun fact:this guy is not possible without magson

[@DrYesus]

14:45 Levyy went “Jason Statham” mode😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣

[@d1mensi0n70]

17:25 was this actually the top engine move for Ravi here, or was there some alternative he could play to keep his pawn structure?

[@invalidargument3340]

Magnus plays weird rook move, Levy listens I play weird rook move, I end up on guess the Elo

[@epicchess2021]

Absolute masterclass in how to make engaging videos thanks, Levy 😁😁

[@melvinsmith14]

Hey epic chess, love your videos ❤

[@craigwyatt3195]

14:44 hell if a Chess game was narrated like this I'd definitely watch! So fun!

[@anvb5a1]

Super GM should absolutely become a thing as from a practical standpoint, we already use the term and we all know that there are GMs and Super GMs, it's now a simple fact!

[@birajguha4797]

14:43 Levy speaking British - Make this happen - make this a series - make this something BIG - we want this 😍😍😍

[@Ayrahvon]

After Qatar Masters results that you're covering this past week, feels like there could be a follow-up to this regarding current 2500 that haven't had a lot of opportunity post/during covid to face the top talent. It's been fascinating and thanks for the content!

[@richardmercer2337]

On move one?! I expect something like "His opponent accidentially knocked over his coffee and flooded the board." THAT would be unexpected.

[@SwagnerCountsThings]

Id like to see Levy dissect some of his OTB games on his quest to be a GM

[@konroh2]

He's done that when he played in tournaments a few years ago.

[@lNTERESTlNG]

15:03 I would unironically sit at a sports bar dinking an Allagash White pint 🍺 with full attention. No 🧢

[@davidballantyne4492]

Now I'm curious, were pre-computer chess games generally recorded and were those records digitized?

[@jonaq2373]

Yes, in OTB tournaments players write down each move, it's part of the game.

[@cuebj]

Try cricket commentary when it's raining or bad light. They pull up all sorts of old games, interviews with all and sundry, eg visiting VIPs (Mick Jagger had trials for Kent around 1960), talk about the pigeons and crows on the ground and children having a game on the boundary, length of a beer mug snake, etc. Can be quite entertaining! So... using an English accent while doing a mock chess commentary is realistic!

[@danielcooper4215]

Really wanting an episode of Levy doing the British commentary voice 😂😂

[@IHazMagics]

@2:44 As someone that found this in their recommendations and knows nothing about famous chess plays, dude sounded like he started summoning demons.

[@AyushSingh2B]

14:44 Do it again, Do it again 😂. Please in next video

[@rodneymuniz9259]

14:28 vibe is so relatable. I like Chess, MTG, RTS games... and I guess we are a rare and cool kind of nerds guys. cheers!

[@ethanzheng7667]

I just played my friend for 7 hours straight. Score equaling 16.5 to 9.5. Being up 7 games, my brain is completely fried.

[@nicholas9718]

Video came at a perfect time. Just decided to learn the catalan today. Thanks Levy!

[@Cuzzo317]

If Magnus didn’t exist we wouldn’t even know gotham

[@Mpatlau]

Nah we would because of the iconic "THE ROOOOOOK!"

[@huh-xz6by]

Nice joke

[@murodjon256]

​@@Mpatlauthe rook meme began in 2022 fide rapid championship, he was very famous for GTE series

[@joeyboutros8118]

ik gotham bcz of batman not magnus...

[@osgubben]

Wrong! If not Levy, nobody would know Magnus.

[@jackdam6920]

The more I learn about chess, when you meticulously memorize every move, it becomes a game of precision. However, when you can’t recall every detail, it transforms into a dynamic interplay of tactics and strategy

[@mukulparihar2208]

Infinity VS 2500:- There is a difference

[@BRunSteez]

Being GM is like being in the NBA... All the best players in the world, but there are still super stars who outshine the rest (super-GMs.)

[@mickshaw555]

Very interesting. SGM should be a valid title. Anyone crossing 2700 perhaps, like Nihal Sarin just did.

[@stianaandal1488]

Or 2750

[@melvinsmith14]

Or 2701

[@JamieWAbbott]

'English chess fan in a sports bar' needs to be a recurring character in the gothamchess Multiverse

[@FermisAxiom]

Ah so when I was a kid and just made pawn chains immediately at the start only to then try to figure out what the heck I do next, apparently I was just playing the Advanced French!

[@abraaomelandes2099]

That Levy is awesome at chess and at analyzing chess, we already know, but let's a moment to admire his storytelling abilities... Wow! I've never been more excited about a somewhat calm game in my life! The way he makes his comments, the pauses, everything! Kudos to you, Levy, for making a 1h30min long game, this interesting!

[@brotha9128]

I am a 106 year old who loves watching Gothamchess ❤❤ Thank YOU for appreciating me 😊

[@SomebodySharp]

RIP in advance ❤️

[@joshjeffrey5589]

Anyone else REALLY want to sit in a sports bar and watch Levy act as a commentator on a televised chess game? Because I for one am completely sold on the concept. (I mean, I'm watching this video, aren't I?)

[@shrizz8093]

Can we just appreciate how levy is so good at impressions

[@birsenva]

Thank you for breaking it down so well for the intermediate aficionado . You just lifted my chess with great concepts!!!

[@JasielNabi]

I Absolutely love how Levy explains chess games and presents everything

[@randyshepherd4042]

Thank you for showing the eval bar with your cursor. Been watching you for a few years now and you comment on the eval a lot, but I never knew where you were getting the info. I always thought that was just a border of the display, did not know it actually moved.

[@ajreukgjdi94]

6:22 "immediately"... "but first"

[@e4jasperi]

15:17 I would enjoy chess at a sports bar eating wings and beer.

[@fyz1ks232]

There should definitely be a new highest ranking title or a completely new system for titles since gm was created in 1950 and there has been a massive rating increase since that year

[@chrhe894]

I remember when Carlsen winning WC for the first time. There were TV-live-coverage from NRK and we in Sweden could see it as well with live commentators. People quit work to go home and watch the TV-streams. Fantastic stuff. :) Now, we are stuck with lovely Indian commentator Sagar Shah.. :)

[@Chilledoutredhead]

You took the piss about watching chess in a bar with the commentary. But thats how i feel in love with chess again. It was tata steel 2020 (i think) , in lockdown thanks to covid. The commentary for the games was fascinating, that sort of deep dive you did while the players took 20mins for a move. With the right commentator team it can be so fun to watch.

[@xxSavy10xx]

I love your videos man, they are so enteraining. As someone that just got into Chess, these vids make consuming the content so much more fun

[@jerryfreeman8587]

Namely levy 0:21

[@owenkelly6679]

14:23 to 15:15 was pure gold. The mention of the alagash white was the cherry on top

[@justaguy4232]

Magnus is like darth vader of chess

[@cumexolaf3276]

and who is the Emperor?

[@alexz4752]

@@cumexolaf3276 Garry Kasparov is the Emperor, Magnus is Darth Vader if he never had all that burn damage.

[@emanuellucin]

But Darth Vader is a villain

[@emanuellucin]

Me agnus is the Goku of chess

[@joaovl20]

​@@emanuellucinYes, the final boss is often associated as a villain in most games

[@stuartd.2033]

14:51 I literally do this levy. Please don’t attack me like this.

[@X.Com__]

I love how levy switches between 2800 elo chess and 280 elo chess.

[@susymay7831]

Levy, please one day make a video of Tromposky games!!! Your London/ Tromposky course was extremely well done. ❤❤❤❤❤

[@RadishAcceptable]

The voice you did at 15:00, we need a full video with that voice, lol.

[@101sizzla]

My mate and I actually went to a pub and they had chess playing amongst other sports channels and we just drank beer and watched chess it was great 10/10 recommend

[@sinistressdreams7243]

Levi, I felt kinda attacked at 15:17, when you said no one does that :'D My friends and I do that from time to time again, we like talking about strategic games, including Chess a lot (and drink a beer or more) xD

[@F2P5_SZN]

Chess is a game of seemingly, intuition and creativity

[@openclassics]

Turning a complete booring game into a Hitchcock-Thriller. That is „Mr. Gedau O’here!“

[@gregbrechelt2295]

Brilliantly performed Levi. Comedy club chess from Gotham is the only stream I watch.

[@blk-sandi]

who's Levi?

[@gregbrechelt2295]

@@blk-sandi ok Levy

[@raylopez99]

@14:50 why classical chess will never be televised and popular, according to Levy, lol.