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@ArneyO7
@ArneyO7 Жыл бұрын
No, it was one guy that fell for it 347,000 times
@vincentproductions8963
@vincentproductions8963 6 ай бұрын
That's probably me 😅
@Vengefulsky7981
@Vengefulsky7981 5 ай бұрын
Nah that’s me
@pradoshtv
@pradoshtv 5 ай бұрын
Well then he wouldn't be between 1000 to 1600 😊
@manasvinr2985
@manasvinr2985 5 ай бұрын
he fell for it between 1000-1600 elo
@Soft_Videogames
@Soft_Videogames 2 ай бұрын
That's actually crazy
@andrewsteinmetz4441
@andrewsteinmetz4441 Жыл бұрын
Great video. Good pace, well organized, no extra dialogue, no gimmicks, just clear informative chess instruction. KZbin needs more people like you.
@eenymeany1
@eenymeany1 Жыл бұрын
Well said
@ahutarius
@ahutarius Жыл бұрын
True bro, made me subscribed instantly
@aba9939
@aba9939 7 ай бұрын
All his videos are great
@marcus8036
@marcus8036 Жыл бұрын
I’m 1300 and I see this every other game as black it feels like, thank you for this
@serenemuzik
@serenemuzik Жыл бұрын
How as1300
@drjoeharris
@drjoeharris Жыл бұрын
Me too I'm 1300
@ud75h
@ud75h Жыл бұрын
Its better just playing bishop to c5 instead of knight to f6 at the opening and get out of the liver attack fully
@yagene34
@yagene34 Жыл бұрын
I'm 2000 rated player
@Блинчик-н4о
@Блинчик-н4о Жыл бұрын
I'm 1300 and i see this 0 times.
@bon4iq
@bon4iq Жыл бұрын
2:22 D Pawn push 2:40 -Bishop take 3:04 -Knight take 5:00 C Pawn push 6:50
@tezzla6358
@tezzla6358 Жыл бұрын
what does this do? you would need to learn all of them anyways
@hipunpun
@hipunpun 5 ай бұрын
It's timestamps for quick reference
@BobChess
@BobChess Жыл бұрын
This is very powerful opening! Most Fried Livers only learn the main lines and the trap line, so if you throw this opening right on their face, they'll not able to remove it out of their face!
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
I’d just play the traxler. I know all the lines because I decided to waste my time learning them Bf1 is the best move for white after b5 and it transposes to the ulvestad variation.
@Rapscallion-ug1kz
@Rapscallion-ug1kz Жыл бұрын
@@Aperson-kq7pt traxler is losing if you dont take the bishop as white
@BobChess
@BobChess Жыл бұрын
@6Y02 Chan Cheung Man because black doesn't prepare neither. That's why white wins. It actually very ok line(+0.8)
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
@@Rapscallion-ug1kz Actually no. With best play it is a draw after Kf1 Qe7 Nxh8 d5 exd5 Nd4 d6 Qxd6 Nf7 Qe7 c3 Bg5 Qa4+ Nd7 Kxf2 Qh4+ Kf1 Bh5 cxd4 Qf4+ Ke1 Qe4+ Kf1 Qf4+ and there is a repetition of moves and it is a draw (yes I remember all of this). When white plays c3 in this variation, there is only 2 other moves that draw for white (this is the only place where white does not have a forced move), which are d3 and h3 (there are too many variations so I haven’t really looked at them, but stockfish says it is drawn). This means that you are incorrect, and it is not losing after white takes the bishop. Despite this, the traxler is technically losing, if white plays the bishop sacrifice line with Bxf7+ rather than Nxf7, however this is still rather dangerous for white.
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
@@BobChess When you enter these wild variations, no one is ready. Personally I play the traxler as black and white (the knight sacrifice line) and win most of my games because the opponent doesn’t know what to do.
@vallabhjoshi1327
@vallabhjoshi1327 Ай бұрын
What if my opponent watching this video
@WatchTower71
@WatchTower71 Жыл бұрын
I’m a big of GothamChess, but when he tried to explain this theory, he’s trying to dramatize the whole video and we end up not really absorbing information as much as videos like this. Thank you for being straight to the point!!
@jout738
@jout738 Жыл бұрын
GothamChess only made video about this attack two years ago, while nowdays this frank liver attack seems even more common, than it was two years ago.
@opposite342
@opposite342 10 ай бұрын
I only seen he talked about this in opening tier list, which he tried to cut time by just showing some lines. Imo he already has a decent traxler video, which is why he doesn't wanna make another fried liver related opening
@felixkfriju2649
@felixkfriju2649 6 ай бұрын
i don't watch GothamChess
@bondanization
@bondanization 4 ай бұрын
Agree
@markattila9835
@markattila9835 3 ай бұрын
Gothamchess sux to the point that it should be on your "Don't recommend channel"
@bf4351
@bf4351 Жыл бұрын
Sure enough, about 2 hours after watching this video, I had a chance to counter this attack. The knight went for my Kb7 pawn, I advanced the queen, they blocked their King in with their Rook and Bishop, I landed a smother mate. Victory never felt so awesome, thanks a bunch!
@ercihanates6504
@ercihanates6504 10 ай бұрын
yeah but don’t you think even a little bit you didn’t deserve the win? i mean i understand even the old chess players read books for improve their game but still, you haven’t thought about this plan. you just coppied. how can you feel smart after a copy paste job?
@Skartak
@Skartak 10 ай бұрын
​​@@ercihanates6504Same goes for the vast amount of players using the Fried Liver attack. Also openings is mostly something you study and essentially just copying the plays.
@Елисей.Яшин
@Елисей.Яшин 10 ай бұрын
​@@ercihanates6504 Чувак, это буквально смысл игры в шахматы.
@ikpakje4
@ikpakje4 10 ай бұрын
Isn't that how chess works? You play a game, in this case watch a video of a game, you think about it and memorize it, and when there is the chance to remember this specific plan, you apply the plan. There is no way to not think in chess. Memorizing is thinking. What you're saying is what I see as, 'ah shit, i'm not allowed to study for this test, because then i'm not thinking about the exam myself. I need to just know all the answers.' And I think it's perfectly fine to study moves if they're an annoyence to you in some games and you don't know the right counterplay from the get-go. It's impossible to 'remember' chess in general anyway since there are too much variables, so memorizing common moves (or a specific game which is playing out the same way as a game you've played before) with counterplay is perfectly fine and smart to do.@@ercihanates6504
@ercihanates6504
@ercihanates6504 10 ай бұрын
@@Елисей.Яшин ne diyon amın oğlu gel ben de kendi dilimi konuşuyom hadi nasıl olacak şimdi
@RaghavBabbar
@RaghavBabbar Жыл бұрын
i am a beginner (450 rated) and i still see this once every 3-4 games as black, and this will surely be helpful, thanks!
@abufarsakh9919
@abufarsakh9919 Жыл бұрын
I’m 500 and I see this so much 😅
@BloonPlays
@BloonPlays 8 ай бұрын
650 and I don’t see this
@RaghavBabbar
@RaghavBabbar 8 ай бұрын
@@BloonPlays may be you will soon enough
@Boubaznavour
@Boubaznavour 8 ай бұрын
You wont be able to defend this way under 800 elo
@RaghavBabbar
@RaghavBabbar 8 ай бұрын
​@@Boubaznavour yeah probably, actually i never even tried it when i was at that level because i later noticed that it says "best for 1000-1600"
@librarybooks
@librarybooks Жыл бұрын
Great video, but there's one thing I'm missing. You said that white only has one safe place for its bishop: b3, so we take with the knight. But why can't they just go back to c4?
@matiascollumau
@matiascollumau Жыл бұрын
Slide queen to c6, take pawn and attack rook, then take horse?
@Rolanditou
@Rolanditou Жыл бұрын
I ran this on Stockfish, it says to play Qc6, if white defends the rook pawn with a pawn forward you take the undefended Bishop, if white defends the Bishop with a pawn you take the rook pawn, at any case after taking the rook pawn you take hes knight, and if white defends the rook pawn with the undefended Bishop bringing the Bishop all the way back you fork the right rook and his King doing check with the Knights, and white ends up loosing the Queen 😂😂
@Domainexpansioncolon3
@Domainexpansioncolon3 9 ай бұрын
Pawn and queen attacks
@SELECT289
@SELECT289 5 ай бұрын
I replied to the same question with what I believe the answer is in the comment above yours from dharmikkids7397
@francocatanzaro96
@francocatanzaro96 Жыл бұрын
You have to know this Here's the moves it starts with
@Bruh-bk6yo
@Bruh-bk6yo Жыл бұрын
Funny thing is this is a more general case.
@ricardomiguel9932
@ricardomiguel9932 Жыл бұрын
They dont know they just see this
@merbabenege
@merbabenege Жыл бұрын
​@@ricardomiguel9932 slide the queen and bait it
@TheyGonHitThePentagon
@TheyGonHitThePentagon Жыл бұрын
@@merbabenegeThey’re gonna take it (Blunder)
@generaluncivilized27
@generaluncivilized27 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheyGonHitThePentagon Big mistake resign now
@warpony123
@warpony123 Ай бұрын
3:25 wouldn’t C3 instead of B3 be the safest move their bishop this makes no sense
@DavidDavid-ek3wo
@DavidDavid-ek3wo Жыл бұрын
5:36 it's like the blackburne shilling gambit trap
@Redeulous
@Redeulous 4 ай бұрын
My thoughts exactly! It's the same pattern and idea, just executed in a more obscure and believable way.
@dharmikkids7397
@dharmikkids7397 Жыл бұрын
3:26 the bishop could have gone to c4
@DhoklaAboveVadapav
@DhoklaAboveVadapav 9 ай бұрын
Attack with b5
@teflondscamakaseriousslingshot
@teflondscamakaseriousslingshot 8 ай бұрын
@@DhoklaAboveVadapavyeah but the guy said Bb3 was only safe position and c4 keeps the bishop
@Clemfandang0
@Clemfandang0 7 ай бұрын
Just was looking for this!
@edwardhughes2186
@edwardhughes2186 6 ай бұрын
Qc6 looks quite strong after Bc4
@YippeeeTeena
@YippeeeTeena 6 ай бұрын
Yes that's wht I thought. So rook and queen lol
@КириллХ-з4в
@КириллХ-з4в Жыл бұрын
Thank you! What about other white options after d6 Q:d6 K:f7 Qc6?
@АндрейСухарников-ы1ь
@АндрейСухарников-ы1ь 10 ай бұрын
2:20 -- очень редко встречается ход d6. У белых дальше нет никакого перевеса, очень редко так играют. Белые должны играть c3, и давить на пешку е, после чего у них гораздо лучше, они играют на победу.
@skakdosmer
@skakdosmer Жыл бұрын
When I was a club player, say, roughly between 1990 and 2010 and rated around 1700, EVERYBODY in East Jutland played Nd4! So it was by no means a rare move - it was more or less the main line! There ARE ways for White to deal with it, but those ways tend to take all the fun out of the game, which is not what you're looking for if you play Ng5. And still White has to play super accurately, while Black is having a much easier time. And if there's any fun, it tends to favour Black. That's why I quit playing Ng5.
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
Just play c3 b5 Bf1 Nxd5 cxd4 Qxg5 Bxb5+ Kd8 0-0 Bb7 Qf3 Rb8 dxe5 Ne3 Qh3 Qxg2+ Qxg2 Nxg2 d4, where white is behind in development although has better central control, and is up a pawn, resulting in a better endgame for white.
@jout738
@jout738 Жыл бұрын
Accordong to chess pros and engine that move Ng5 is bad move, when you should develop your other pieces first, but most people want to go for satisfying quick attack to get some material for themselves, so they dont care, that according to chess pros and chess engines Ng5 is bad move as your fourth move in the game.
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
@@jout738 Ng5 is fun. That’s why people play it. Also it guarantees white to win a pawn so that’s good too.
@ClumsyShoulders
@ClumsyShoulders 11 ай бұрын
@@jout738GM Wesley So recommends it in his 1. E4 course, many top players play it, and it’s the second most popular move for masters, and white has a huge winrate, I suspect the only reason it isn’t played as much as d3 is because of how black can suppress it and lead to a draw.
@ClumsyShoulders
@ClumsyShoulders 11 ай бұрын
And also, the engine recommends it, do you have any proof saying that it’s bad?
@samblanton9010
@samblanton9010 Жыл бұрын
3:25 what’s keeping white from moving bishop to C4 instead? Would the game plan be similar after that, or would black want to attack that with pawn b5 or something
@Ben.Dover.69
@Ben.Dover.69 Жыл бұрын
I'm not good at chess but I dont see why I couldn't move the Bishop to c4. He says the only safe option is b3 but how could it be safe of you got taken by a knight and you stacking pawns to retake. Thats just double bad for you. But no pice is attacking c4. Maybe its just my 1000elo brain i can't comprehend something here but someone shuld tell my why white plays b3.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 9 ай бұрын
Qc6 crushes White. Either the Bishop is lost or Qxg2 next. If Bxf1, Nc2+.
@kritikyadav2179
@kritikyadav2179 Жыл бұрын
6:00 this is exactly how I lost yesterday.
@ShuptahNeelakandan-cg4tn
@ShuptahNeelakandan-cg4tn 2 ай бұрын
😎
@kritikyadav2179
@kritikyadav2179 2 ай бұрын
​@@ShuptahNeelakandan-cg4tn what
@inderrrr3968
@inderrrr3968 11 ай бұрын
Me who see this on 500 rating 😭
@walkingtree2486
@walkingtree2486 3 ай бұрын
I'm 300 elo rn, started chess literally yesterday and so far have seen two opponents try the fried liver opening on me. First one I got tricked, second one was able to get out of it myself. I guess this opening has become really common if it's in literal beginner elo
@wasordx3245
@wasordx3245 2 ай бұрын
​@Edge_OfAIok martin
@wasordx3245
@wasordx3245 2 ай бұрын
​@@walkingtree2486damn I started chess like a few days ago and I'm 1000
@crax7181
@crax7181 2 ай бұрын
​@@wasordx3245ok jason
@nuggetcat2540
@nuggetcat2540 2 ай бұрын
@@wasordx3245i have 100 elo wdym
@abdul_1270
@abdul_1270 Жыл бұрын
At 3:26 couldn’t the bishop just go to c4
@anupdhakal8317
@anupdhakal8317 Жыл бұрын
I eas thinking the same , some one please tell me what happens if bishop goes to c4
@KaranChess
@KaranChess Жыл бұрын
May be Bishop e6
@pebblepod30
@pebblepod30 Жыл бұрын
Then Black Queen forks unprotected bishop and g2 pawn and then same white attack works.
@KaranChess
@KaranChess Жыл бұрын
@@pebblepod30 ???
@Ben.Dover.69
@Ben.Dover.69 Жыл бұрын
​@@pebblepod30If black plays d5 I just take with bishop and that's just losing a queen wich is stupid. But someone for the love of god tell me why bishop c4 is bad im going insane here.
@hellohello-g4u
@hellohello-g4u Жыл бұрын
Bro tried to play fried liver after i saw that video. He regrets it.
@roblodocus2539
@roblodocus2539 Жыл бұрын
The traxler was the first opening I really studied and it’s still one of my favourites. But these look like so much fun, I might have to rotate the traxler out for a while to try these out!
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
Until you start going up against people who know what they’re doing so your games will go (after b5) Bf1 Nxd5 cxd4 Qxg5 Bxb5+ Kd8 0-0 Bb7 Qf3 Rb8 dxe5 Ne3 Qh3 Qxg2+ Qxg2 Nxg2 d4 and white lacks slightly in development but has better control of the centre and is up a pawn (also only has 1 isolated pawn compared to black’s 2 isolated pawns).
@pritammondal9708
@pritammondal9708 Жыл бұрын
Traxler is completely neutralized above 1500. Almost everybody knows what to do
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
@@pritammondal9708 No it’s not. I’m rated 1700 and I win most of my games with the traxler. If you know enough, if white plays Nxf7, you can’t lose.
@youtubeboxingcentral2022
@youtubeboxingcentral2022 Жыл бұрын
@@Aperson-kq7pt yeah it’s a draw, but white always has a big adv with bxf7
@Aperson-kq7pt
@Aperson-kq7pt Жыл бұрын
@@youtubeboxingcentral2022 It’s not really a big advantage (stockfish says around +1.5) but it is really tricky for white to maintain that advantage.
@kenm116
@kenm116 Жыл бұрын
Question on 3:25. -> why would bishop B3 be the only safe position, why not go back to C4?
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 9 ай бұрын
Qc6 clobbers you
@gilly_the_fish
@gilly_the_fish Жыл бұрын
At 3:23, why wouldn't white move the bishop to c4? Is it too important to keep it protected in case of a trade?
@ohaiadit
@ohaiadit Жыл бұрын
Qc6 wins you the bishop
@gilly_the_fish
@gilly_the_fish Жыл бұрын
​​@@ohaiadityou could still protect the bishop with b3 or knight a2. Of course, you'd still lose the pawn on g2
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 9 ай бұрын
@@gilly_the_fish Not just the pawn, Qxg2 forks h1 Rook and g5 Knight. Catastrophic for White.
@shiva-ji-777
@shiva-ji-777 Жыл бұрын
347,996th person : I have seen this
@firelightchess4495
@firelightchess4495 Жыл бұрын
i literally had a game just like this after seeing this lesson and i won in 10 moves thanks
@vsn3229
@vsn3229 Жыл бұрын
😂
@PatrickPlaysChess
@PatrickPlaysChess 11 ай бұрын
Worked many times, but how to respond to an immediate pawn push on the knight you put on d4
@liamsun2543
@liamsun2543 Жыл бұрын
I firstly knew this line from a Ben Finegold lecture about the Fried Liver, Nd4 (instead of the common Na5) was suggested by a kid, and Ben suggests this is super complicated and the main line theory goes c3 b5 Bf1 Nxd5. I didn't understand the point of Bf1, just remembered it, but this video nicely shows why cxd4 is problematic for white. Also there are quite a few master games in the main line and black is doing fine even in the main line. Conclusion: Fritz Attack > Traxler.
@martinofinotelli1884
@martinofinotelli1884 Жыл бұрын
Why b3 is the only safe square for the bishop at minute 3:27? Why not c4?
@teflondscamakaseriousslingshot
@teflondscamakaseriousslingshot 8 ай бұрын
Convenient for video probably lol
@MayDer009
@MayDer009 Жыл бұрын
4:11 good knight
@Stute00
@Stute00 Жыл бұрын
😂
@adamding3873
@adamding3873 Жыл бұрын
1:54, what if white plays d3 to kick the knight? White may feel uncomfortable as the pawn blocks its own knight, but the black's knight's place is also very awkward. If it retreats to f5, and white castles, it seems the white has an advantage.
@linuss9710
@linuss9710 Жыл бұрын
I play the fried liver with white and I know my theory. I haven’t looked at this in a while but I’m pretty sure at 6:52 the move for white is bishop back to f1. This is also a move in another b5 line.
@84homey
@84homey Жыл бұрын
Yeah, what I don't get is why he is saying the "only possible move" is Bishop to B3 and then you can take it with your Knight, but why can;t the Bishop move to C4 and then as you say, it can escape back to F1 next go if required? I have tried this about a dozen times against the computer and it NEVER moves the Bishop back to B3. That's a dumb move IMO, or am I missing something?
@와뫙
@와뫙 9 ай бұрын
1:53 2:43 Bishop takes: 3:01-3:43-3:49-4:06-4:27 Knight takes: 5:04-5:23-5:32 d6: 6:10 c3: 6:42-
@auchnurmensch
@auchnurmensch Жыл бұрын
3:24 please explain why only b3? What if the bishop goes back to c4 after eating that pawn? Then i think white is safe
@SuperfictionRecords
@SuperfictionRecords 11 ай бұрын
Yeah exactly!
@bukunmikuti
@bukunmikuti 11 ай бұрын
Queen goes to c6 and threatens both bishop and g2 pawn to continue the attack. If bishop goes back to original position, then queen to c2 to exchange Queens and land a fork with the Knight...
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 9 ай бұрын
@@bukunmikuti Yes, except that after Bf1, Nxc2+ is stronger.
@csasd7162
@csasd7162 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand the bishops movement @ 03:25 why b3 and not c4? @ 06:54 why not b5 and check instead of getting the knight?
@alancoe1002
@alancoe1002 Жыл бұрын
Thanks especially for being concise, yet reviewing what we're trying to do. This response to the Fried is way more dynamic than the Na5 that I normally play. Thanks.
@itskarl7575
@itskarl7575 Жыл бұрын
3:24 "...and going back to b3 is really the only safe square for [their bishop]" Hardly safe since you then took it with your knight. Wouldn't e4 be safe, or am I missing something?
@alexb8833
@alexb8833 Жыл бұрын
Hey Nelson, this is the first opening trap I’ve really committed to learn as a relative beginner and it is so good! It’s something I can actually play and it’s generally really effective, it almost feels cheap. So thank you! Love the rest of your content too.
@joshuaspoor
@joshuaspoor Жыл бұрын
Search Halloween gambit
@Slava_Russia-Wagner
@Slava_Russia-Wagner 10 ай бұрын
This is like the famous Blackburn gambit which follows this line: e4-e5, Nf3-Nc6, Bc4-Nd4!! The point is the same, lure the knight in this "fork", just from a different angle, instead of Ng5 they go Nxe5. Then we play ...Qg5 and we have Nxf7-Qxg2, Rf1-Qxe4+, Be2-Nf3# It's the exact same position both with the knight and the bishop capture. It only differs when white plays c3 instead of d6. I personally prefer playing the Blackburn gambit because this makes them immediately think you've blundered a pawn, whereas if you play the two knights defence they aren't necessarily forced into playing the fried liver and the game may transpose to a boring Italian variation.
@PaxtonGillette-ge7pk
@PaxtonGillette-ge7pk Жыл бұрын
Heres a tip for 400-800ish. after ng5 play bc5 and after they play nxf7 play bxf2 after kxf2 play nxc4+ and no matter what they do play qf6(+) most of the time people will stumble intl mate in one on either g8 or c8.
@jwdominionpyroraptor4775
@jwdominionpyroraptor4775 Жыл бұрын
Its not nxc2 its nxe4 and also usually play Qh4 not Qf6 u only play Qf6 if Kf1
@PaxtonGillette-ge7pk
@PaxtonGillette-ge7pk Жыл бұрын
You are correct on the first point, I am just blind, but unless they play ke2 qf6 is as far as I can tell, simply better. If kg1 or ke1, they get checkmated, if kf1, they have to respond to check either moving to e1, g1, or e2. E1 and g1 lose to qf2#, or after e2, nd4+, kd3 play nf2, forking the king and queen, if ke1, qf2#, and if ke3, qf2+, if kd3, qg3+, kxe4, qf4+, if they go to d5, there is probably a checkmate somewhere, and if kg3, after qg3+ there is at least a draw and probably some kind of mate. Also in some of those paths they could have blocked with queen, but every single one hangs. If after kxe4 they play kf3, qf6+, if kg4, h5+, and after kh3, nf2 forks the king and queen, and there's probably a mate there. If ke2, qf2+, kd3, qg2+, if ke2, forced draw, if kxe4, qf4+, if kd5, qd4#, if kd3, qd4+, ke2, qxc4+, and you win the bishop and the knight, and you are up a pawn. If ke3, qf4, and either move I've covered already. Tell me if I missed anything.
@ChronosIQ
@ChronosIQ 25 күн бұрын
It's actually 0.005% of planet's population
@joelpenley9791
@joelpenley9791 Жыл бұрын
I love this opening and playing both sides because there are so many ways to play it. I prefer the surprise move for black 5...b5!! White usually doesn't know how to react, so a little bit a prep by black can get a quick advantage.
@markoveselcic9695
@markoveselcic9695 Жыл бұрын
Love that opening as well because the only move that gives white an advantage is Bf1 which is really hard to find
@DylanElGamerYT
@DylanElGamerYT Жыл бұрын
3:25 The only save square? I see another save square for the bishop, c4 but seeing the video, the next move it can be b5
@pontus3142
@pontus3142 Жыл бұрын
After 6. ... b5, I thought the normal line is 7. Bf1. And now white gets more of a chance to develop his pieces. That's why I normally play 5. ... Na5.
@alanmccormick6911
@alanmccormick6911 Жыл бұрын
Agree, I play Bf1 as white and then enjoy a good position.
@Mahi_S_01
@Mahi_S_01 19 күн бұрын
I have seen this move many times and I'm just at 400-450! This is a great way to handle it thank you!
@learningisfun2108
@learningisfun2108 Жыл бұрын
Great lesson. Watched it twice and played it out over the board to try and remember the tactics. Thanks Nelson.
@tulithemusician
@tulithemusician Жыл бұрын
3:25 IMO C4 is also safe for the bishop, am i missing sonething?
@HotSteamingJustice
@HotSteamingJustice Жыл бұрын
This is amazing. How has this counter attack not been talked about before?
@rpg_haven
@rpg_haven Жыл бұрын
Like most traps, it's probably not very good at higher levels. Better players know this stuff and how to keep the advantage as white
@cubsfanman-nx6pg
@cubsfanman-nx6pg Жыл бұрын
Because its not good If white just plays reasonable moves they can easily get a winning position Playing stuff like the traxler is much much better against the fried liver
@TheCre8or
@TheCre8or Жыл бұрын
@3:25 why wouldn't the bishop go to c4 instead of b5
@BenPearson_kd7uiy
@BenPearson_kd7uiy Жыл бұрын
Just played this for the first time as an 1100 player. Is certainly a lot of fun, I'm going to have to keep doing this, thanks!
@srinidhibhat
@srinidhibhat 17 күн бұрын
5:47 do you see it? Ah yes the Fork! Him: that's right a smothered checkmate Me: Ahhh
@JadyGrudd
@JadyGrudd Жыл бұрын
I'm 1600+. Personally, I believe that the two knights is the best 1...e4 defensive option. I respond to the fried liver w/ 5...e5. It opens black up for tactical play and white has to immediately defend his bishop.
@joenowak6811
@joenowak6811 8 ай бұрын
One way to solve this problem is to at 9:35 to move the King rook pawn to KR3 instead of the King knight move...
@ElinRaden
@ElinRaden Жыл бұрын
I've seen this so many times and always struggled with it. I always got out of the forking threat but this is a much more elegant solution to the problem! 👍️
@FTCLAS
@FTCLAS 7 ай бұрын
These videos always remind me of self defence martial arts classes, relying on the opponent doing something lol
@bazsalazas
@bazsalazas Жыл бұрын
After watching this video, in the very next game I got into the exact same position. I managed to play it through as you recommended and I could take an easy win 😊 thank you, great guidance!
@SaianRoblox555
@SaianRoblox555 10 ай бұрын
7:45 what if the king didn't castle and instead go for queen to e2?
@Dubanx
@Dubanx Жыл бұрын
This is my favorite trap. I've done it dozens of times and it never fails to make me laugh. Even if they don't give you the checkmate the number of queens I've taken is great. Edit: Also, you forgot to mention the line where they defend the bishop instead of taking your rook and you take their queen.
@randyreal5871
@randyreal5871 Жыл бұрын
They defend their bishop with pawn to d3? How do you take the queen?
@Dubanx
@Dubanx Жыл бұрын
@@randyreal5871 Again you take the pawn Qg2 as with the previous line. Of course they have to defend Rook Rf1. You then attack their queen with your bishop Bg4. Most opponents move their queen up one space Qd2, to which you can fork the queen and king Nf3. If they do the slightly smarter pawn move f3, you just take with the bishop Bf3. Now they have 3 options. 1) Sac the rook Rf3, at which point you take with the knight Nf3 and they have to sac the queen to stop the mate. 2) Sac the queen Qf3 immediately and you take with the knight Nf3. 3) Try to save the queen by moving it forward one space Qd2. At which point check their king with your knight Nc2, and they have to sac the queen to take the knight.
@randyreal5871
@randyreal5871 Жыл бұрын
@@Dubanx Oh that's great! Thank you for explaining that
@EternalSilverDragon
@EternalSilverDragon Жыл бұрын
I usually encounter d3 followed by Kd2, the idea of which is to cleverly defend the rook with the queen. But it's actually a forced checkmate.
@jout738
@jout738 Жыл бұрын
Yes, while most people propably find it annoying. I find it so satisfying doing it myself and succeding in it, because being rock down will then show in the endgame giving advantage to yourself. My new chess account been created in last year November 15, but I have played this frank liver attack oppening still over 200 times with 53% win rate, 44% lose rate and rest are draws. I used to play this opening before chess app in roblox chess rekting noobs and thats why I have been playing this opening a lot for last two years. This is much better trap, than any of the queen move traps, because most know how to stop them atleast.
@ThomasDong-zy4gw
@ThomasDong-zy4gw Жыл бұрын
I prefer e4 e5 nf3 nc6 bc4 f5! This is where stockfish decides to be a 🤓 but most people are stuck and blunder quickly.
@Qsen123
@Qsen123 Жыл бұрын
ive seen so many beginner videos about the fried liver but somehow i can just never wrap my head around good responses to it, hopefully this video will cement some counterplay into my head lol
@ศกรโสมาภา
@ศกรโสมาภา Жыл бұрын
I’d say you actually don’t want to go for fried liver as a beginner if you want to play e4. There’s so many lines it could deviate. At move 3 when you finally get the Italian black can play Bc5, Be7, d6, f5 and Nf6. All of them is a good move and only one ‘might’ leads to fried liver. I’d recommend something like danish gambit since there’s not as much move to remember. Afterward you can start learning more complicated opening one at a time and saves complicated stuff like Ruy Lopez for last.
@Qsen123
@Qsen123 Жыл бұрын
@@ศกรโสมาภา i never go for fried liver as white but the move order is probably the most common in all of chess so youre bound to face it at the start of your chess journey
@KamKam8383
@KamKam8383 Жыл бұрын
Alternatively, try Traxler. So fun
@funnyvideosforpublic9279
@funnyvideosforpublic9279 9 ай бұрын
2:45 why white will use the bishpo instead of knight,the knight can kill the queen after fork
@dexscarf2997
@dexscarf2997 5 ай бұрын
did you watch the video
@chadgeri
@chadgeri Жыл бұрын
I usually just play the bishop before the knight so I can castle if they move their knight up for the fork. But this is much better! Looking forward to trying it out!
@_trismegistus
@_trismegistus Жыл бұрын
What if white moves the bishop back to where it was on C4 instead of all the way back to B3? Any tricks there, or just attack with queen and then add a pawn to the attack when they defend?
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 9 ай бұрын
Qxc6 forks the bishops and g2 pawn, then Qxg2 forks rook and knight ... aaaargh.
@DM_Curtis
@DM_Curtis Жыл бұрын
This is why you shouldn't play the Fried Liver unless you're a GM.
@mubaraksenju7521
@mubaraksenju7521 9 ай бұрын
GMs dont really play this. Mostly go for gioco piano etc/3 knights variation. This however is very common for 1k-1.8k elo
@chess747
@chess747 Жыл бұрын
I’m always on the hunt, for great chess videos, with full explanations. But I’ve never come across, a chess channel, that gives such an easy, and great explanation, from both sides, easy to understand, no stupid, long winded explanations. You sir, keep it so simple, and frankly, the best chess channel, I’ve ever come across. Keep up the great work.
@abagofwater1076
@abagofwater1076 Жыл бұрын
Your use of commas distresses me.
@driving.me.crazy_
@driving.me.crazy_ Жыл бұрын
​@@abagofwater1076 same
@toothlesstoe
@toothlesstoe Жыл бұрын
​@abagofwater1076 I believe that most people, when writing, use commas to simulate their speech patterns. Maybe he just talks with many pauses in between phrases; but if that's true, it sounds like someone who might have a disability lol
@REY.3727
@REY.3727 Жыл бұрын
please, stop using, so many commas, unnecessarily, and learn. when you are supposed to, use commas. and when, they are not necessary, .
@onlimi616
@onlimi616 Жыл бұрын
@@REY.3727 😄
@MainUkraine
@MainUkraine Жыл бұрын
As a scicillian defense player, the fried liver makes no sense because there is no black pawn on e5 so the fried liver and any scholars mate attack gets met with Ne5 hitting the bishop while simulataneously protecting c2.
@somebodyonce6063
@somebodyonce6063 Жыл бұрын
ngl as a 600 I saw this trap yesterday but it was a Giuoco Piano Four Knights instead, and I panicked and castled, then thought it was a bad move (though I checked game review and it said best move) tbh it was a horrible game for both sides, I only won because opponent was too focused on attacking me (they had M2) and hung M1 which resulted in my win
@valonarious5399
@valonarious5399 Жыл бұрын
It is the best move because you basically trade 2 minor pieces for a rook which in that position is completely fine for black
@hueycotton
@hueycotton Жыл бұрын
At least you recognize the patterns at 600. I’m 1050 rn and I don’t even know what the hell you were talking about lol I literally just wing it or play the hippo
@jwdominionpyroraptor4775
@jwdominionpyroraptor4775 Жыл бұрын
Four knights giuoco piano sucks tbh, i think after 3.Bc5 its like the 4th best move according to stockfish but imo its 6th best move because i love the evans gambit and the max lange attack
@zarbilzerian
@zarbilzerian 11 ай бұрын
Hey what about when you move your knight to D4, then they castle? What do i do in this position?
@tomprice4016
@tomprice4016 Жыл бұрын
Such a great channel for chess players...thank you.
@Victorgames540
@Victorgames540 11 ай бұрын
4:30 well, as a amateur, i analysed the position and we only have moves for the queen, the knight is pinned Don't move (random move): Rxe2+, now Kxe2 it's the best option for white, the battery it's a problem, Qe6+, Kf1 and white is saved Qe3: Strong best move candidate, if Rxe3+, dxe3 and the white is saved again Qe4: a inaccuracy, now we have a double attack on queen and no protection, Rxe4+ and the white king lost castling rights too Qe5: a inaccuracy, probably will be Rxe5+ Kxe5 Qxe5+ and the white king lost his castling rights again Qe6 or Qe7: ABSOLUTE BLUNDER, i will explain the both separately Qe6+: you put your queen in a triple attack, Qxe6+ will make a battery and the checkmate will come soon Qe7+: same, but now it's a quadruple attack Qxe8+: another strong best move candidate, the king or the knights will take e8 and you can castle, and the white king is saved most one time My recommendation, Random move, Qe3 and Qxe8+
@vinit66666
@vinit66666 Жыл бұрын
I think now my road to 1400 looks less difficult after seeing this video. Stuck at 1329 since 5 months
@cubsfanman-nx6pg
@cubsfanman-nx6pg Жыл бұрын
Im around your same level and trust me traxler will be better especially against 1400's
@32_shambhavisrivastava37
@32_shambhavisrivastava37 Жыл бұрын
I was stuck at 1350-1400 for like 3 to 4 months. But I made a few changes to my game and within 2 months got to 1700. If your interested to know how do reply cuz im not gonna waste my time writing all that to someone who wouldnt read it anyway
@edibleapplin
@edibleapplin Жыл бұрын
Bro I’m 600 and I see this all the time
@AntoineDennison
@AntoineDennison Жыл бұрын
Great video, Nelson! I see this attack consistently; I usually respond by advancing my H1 or A1 pawn in advance of it. But sometimes, I overlook the threat and get decimated.
@thebcwonder4850
@thebcwonder4850 Жыл бұрын
I would recommend against the anti-fried liver defense, you just end up losing the center. I prefer knowing na5
@siddharthgupta8435
@siddharthgupta8435 Жыл бұрын
3:28 Bc4 is also safe move what they play Bc4....?
@LouisPhilippeStLaurent
@LouisPhilippeStLaurent Жыл бұрын
Watched this video last week, used the strategy last night to anihilate white's attack. Felt great. Thank you for this content! =D
@xnotmattbg_8153
@xnotmattbg_8153 Жыл бұрын
can someone explain 3:26 what of opponent play bishop c4
@cellokid5104
@cellokid5104 9 ай бұрын
Who else got here from the I did a thing, training wild animals playlist? 😂
@MikeMentzer-mq8yg
@MikeMentzer-mq8yg 7 ай бұрын
HAHAHAHA the same
@shiva-ji-777
@shiva-ji-777 Жыл бұрын
100million+ people watching this: we won't fell for it My opponent: let me play h5:)
@NCRRanger125
@NCRRanger125 2 ай бұрын
This is on an I did a thing playlist
@signature8770
@signature8770 Жыл бұрын
I'm kinda new but at 6:50, B5 looks like it's not a good move because white can just take it with the bishop while putting black in check.
@loulasher
@loulasher Жыл бұрын
I'm old and not even a club player, but I've been confused over when the Two Knights Defense went from a common "romantic era" opening to being called the Fried Liver.
@modemuffel9911
@modemuffel9911 Жыл бұрын
The fried liver is the bishop + knight attack at the king pawn
@Fera-gr5mm
@Fera-gr5mm Жыл бұрын
​@@modemuffel9911No it is the variation with Ke6 which is basically the main idea (otherwise the d5 would be easy counter)
@EternalSilverDragon
@EternalSilverDragon Жыл бұрын
The Two Knights Defense (3... Nf6) is still called the Two Knights defense. 4. Ng5 is called the Knight Attack, but a lot of people mistakenly call this the Fried Liver Attack because that's what White is aiming for. 6. Nxf7 (only after 4... d5 5. exd5 Nxd5) is the Fried Liver Attack or Fegatello Attack. Playing 5... Nd4 instead of 5... Nxd5 completely avoids the Fried Liver Attack and this is called the Fritz Variation.
@iankemp1131
@iankemp1131 9 ай бұрын
@@EternalSilverDragon Yes, and also the main line 5...Na5 of the Two Knights Defence avoids the Fried Liver Attack 6 Nxf7. In fact some analysis considers 6 d4 even stronger, but less spectacular.
@shyamsrinivasan82
@shyamsrinivasan82 Жыл бұрын
why would the bishop move to b3 instead of c4. If that becomes the case, white succeeds with the fork, am I seeing a problem with these moves? 🤔
@CarendenRoad
@CarendenRoad Жыл бұрын
Love it. Watched your vid about 5 days ago and have had two games since to put it to use. First one (daily game) is still going but defense worked and the game goes on. Second game (just finished) worked exactly as you showed with the black queen checking and white having to decide between lost queen or smothered mate. New subscriber. New fan.
@beast3582
@beast3582 9 ай бұрын
rather than playing 4 knights get ur bishop out first so when the start fried liver u simply castle then if they continue they will get a rook and a pawn for a knight n bishop n u will have a better position
@zachhilger4165
@zachhilger4165 Жыл бұрын
Umm I just give up after they do this honestly
@Quantum69_editz
@Quantum69_editz Жыл бұрын
What if the bishop goes to c4 again
@dowaliby1
@dowaliby1 11 ай бұрын
This is a wonderful trap when black goes for the fork by taking the pawn on f7 with the KNIGHT, which will happen the vast majority of the time.. But I'm a bit confused on the line where Black instead takes the pawn on f7 with BISHOP, giving check to the black king and the king slides to e7. At that point white retreating his bishop back to B3 is actually NOT the only safe place for white to place his bishop. He can go bishop to c4. If white does that, there is no trap for black to spring. Black cannot capture white's bishop, and with the white bishop on c4, black cannot execute the trap. Unless I am missing something?
@jdboy_jd
@jdboy_jd Жыл бұрын
My guy who played Qa4+ at 06:55 instead of capturing the pawn. I was like "Oopss, this was not in the script. Now what 👁👄👁"
@pingerfrints6716
@pingerfrints6716 Жыл бұрын
😂
@himanshu.bishnoi0029
@himanshu.bishnoi0029 Ай бұрын
As a beginner in chess I learned too much in this video. Thanks for this Nelson.
@spiderjerusalem
@spiderjerusalem Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, the infamous 1300 opening
@samuraituff9653
@samuraituff9653 7 күн бұрын
1:11 Instead of this just copy and move bishop next to white bishop when they take you attack the pawn with your bish knight and queen which leads to an eventually checkmate
@blacklist7576
@blacklist7576 9 ай бұрын
what if we just kick the knight?
@Ohkeydokey-h1l
@Ohkeydokey-h1l 6 ай бұрын
Why take the f2 pawn with the white bishop @3:00 , if we take it with the knight, it will threaten the rook at h8. So the rook will have to move thus prevent short castling of the black side. Why is bishop takes pawn a better option for white? I am just a newbie, I just want to learn.
@ScottSchager-q9c
@ScottSchager-q9c Жыл бұрын
why can't bishop go to c4 instead of b3?
@sirkizil3205
@sirkizil3205 Жыл бұрын
I'm 1300 and I see this in a daily basis. I was pushing pawn to h6 before knight comes out. Thanks for teaching right way to deal this.
@inditiva6203
@inditiva6203 Жыл бұрын
Ran this line through stockfish. Unfortunately if white plays the best responses after all the book moves they are ahead with a +.86 advantage in their favor
@georgeritmeester4736
@georgeritmeester4736 Жыл бұрын
Why can't the bishop retreat to c4 instead of b3?
@unkanify
@unkanify Жыл бұрын
This is basically a different version of the Blackburn shrine gambit Btw, I know that I did a spelling error, I just don’t know how to spell it
@madzilla14
@madzilla14 Жыл бұрын
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