GOTHIC Iceberg #5

[@vertigo7082]

Sliverz and Vertigo linked up! Need it or keep it?

[@d9lv1n]

I personally prefer your voice only, but it was done very well, so both did a great job.

[@LandrosTane]

To me, its a perfectly well done tag team XD keep it up

[@humblehornet621]

I am down for more collabs. Perfectly executed!

[@Netrofikator]

Nice job team! Totally worth of the another exotic funfact: Ever wondered how many bricks were used to build Khorinis? Think no more! In February 2020, some bored Poles counted the number of bricks we can see in the city. Of course, this is not an ideal method and it would take a lot more thinking to estimate the thickness of the walls or the number of bricks that cannot be seen. But, from what one can see on the textures: - the city walls on both internal and external sides, as well as the walls of buildings containing bricks, are composed of 27,366 bricks - the city towers have 46,656 bricks - gates and covered passages have 3,366 bricks - the foundations of the walls and buildings are 1,784 bricks In total, there are 78,172 bricks in the city of Khorinis Also: - average brick dimensions are 250x120x65 millimeters - on average, 1 brick weighs 3 kg, and the price for 1 brick is approximately 0.66 PLN (Polish zloty) - to build 1 square meter of wall, approximately 53-54 pieces are needed - in the case of Khorinis, the bricks covered a total area of 1,447.5 square meters, and the price for this number of bricks is 21,593.52 PLN Credits to J. Jasiłek and his loosers.. i mean fellas for this breakstone in gothicology xd

[@combatspecialist]

About the business management mechanic - it is indeed true that we were supposed to invest in the Mine below Mist Tower. Nameless could recruit some miners in chapter 3, as well as recently formed demon hunters as guards, and other minor personel. Additionally, you could teach your employees how to make certain things, how to mine mine more efficiently etc. The blood (also known as Dark Ore) ore could be used for rune creation (if you've learned that from Lester), delivered to the Fire Mages (they wanted 1000 chunks of it) or simply sell it. Rhobar's Daughter's role is fairly simple, as she was (kind of) a princess archetype. She was locked in the Stone Fortress' highest tower and she could be visited by Nameless and she could yell at her, tell her to undress or ask her to take a bath. The entry about Sleeper's Dream could refer to how Y'berion had a vision from said demon and founded the brotherhood. True, it is refer to in game as a vision, but sometimes, Occam's Razor is all that you need. Ancients from Varrant and the builders from Jharkendar aren't related. Probably. Firstly, the Ancients were Innos worshipers as they were people who followed the eternal wanderer and that guy used to worship Innos. Secondly the architectural styles don't match up, as Ancients have inspirations from ancient persian architecture and the Builders have a style similar to mesoamerican civilizations. On the other hand, they could be related in a sense that the Builders could've been the peoples that did not follow the eternal wanderer and wondered to to Khornis... somehow. Also, here's a video that goes waaay more in depth into cancelled gothic sequel which goes through the most of the design document written by Stephan Nyul: kzbin.info/www/bejne/hmbdYXZ8mrWEo8U Anyways, nice video man.

[@Abudzin]

10:47 bruh I totally forgot how bloody terrifying Sleeper was. I'm gonna have nightmares from this shot. Sleeper was everything that the Undead Dragon wished he could have been. Such a pity you don't actually fight Sleeper himself on Irdorath...

[@vertigo7082]

True! But the footage depicts him with an alternative skin. Must've been a mod I used.

[@Abudzin]

@@vertigo7082 yeah but even the vanilla one is still creeping me out

[@bearpupy2909]

oh boy, nothing like coming back from work and enjoying this piece of art media alone.

[@tikeyyX]

Great collaboration ⭐ Now im going to watch this and comment on some points later. Great work and keep delivering us this awesome content we all love ✌️👑

[@unimportantcommenter4356]

About Xardas being an immortal being, there is a Gothic prequel named "Gothic 3: The Beginning", which is a java game for Ericson devices that takes place 100 years before the main events of Gothic, and the protagonist of the game is Xardas in his 20s.

[@vertigo7082]

Yes but that is totally non canonical. I wonder why they even bothered to develop that game.

[@SBBBurney]

ayooooooooo Sliverz and Vertigo, here we go! Thanks for these!

[@SBBBurney]

How did you get the Xardas VA? AI trained? It's very convincing!

[@SBBBurney]

By the way, you can "cheat" the armor by first turning off Marvin Mode when you're controlling an NPC. Then it'll let you open the inventory!

[@vertigo7082]

@@SBBBurney Sliverz the mad man did it. Somekind of AI I think.

[@vertigo7082]

@@SBBBurney Ohh didn't know about that. Yeah but then you could just cheat it into the game either, I thought it's about NOT using any commands or cheats.

[@sliverz_fx]

​@@SBBBurneyeleven labs has an option to input senteces from an already recorded voice, then you can make it synthesize anything when you give it text to speech.

[@ArhonOkvals]

Great, now I have to forget the Eye of Innos on purpose so I can annoy Xardas. 😂

[@vertigo7082]

That old man had it coming!

[@restlessheroes]

​@@vertigo7082 how did you get his voice acting foe the message?

[@vertigo7082]

@@restlessheroes Sliverz did it, he was using some type of AI.

[@restlessheroes]

I see, very cool :)

[@somedesertdude1308]

we did it

[@vertigo7082]

Finally!

[@TheIrisCZ]

The more I hear about the cut content of Gothic 1, the more I wish somebody would do a similar modification like Archolos with all the content added back. I know, there are a few mods, that add a few things, but I can still imagine Gothic 1 being a completely different game if there still were other side quests after the first chapter, if you could still take multiple routes towards the ending and even make the story end in multiple ways. Sure, it would require a huge rebalancing, but that is something that the game would need anyway. The game would be 3 times as long in the end. And it would get rid of the fast progress of the character after the 2nd chapter (seriously, after the first chapter, you can become eg. a shadow, fire mage, water mage and necromancer all in like 3 in game days).

[@vertigo7082]

Exactly my train of thought. It was meant to be so much more, but then things happened. I guess we have to wait and see if the Remake or the Mods deliver.

[@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT]

I wish someone would add alchemy,cooking,smithing,hunting,trading and game balance from g2gold into g1. Cut content and new quests would also be nice.

[@ogur_]

@@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT check out othello mod for gothic 1 hehe

[@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT]

@@ogur_ thnx

[@NAMELESSINTERNETADDICT]

@@ogur_ just saw some gameplay online and read info abou the mod. That is exactly what i was looking for. Thnx again.

[@MegaLol2xd]

8:11 it's about mining new Bloody Magic Ore (I don't know how to translate it properly). We as a player had to recruit and menage people to mine this new type of ore, it was needed in main story quest.

[@kleonhs]

Not me binge watching your videos, after stumbling on one.

[@d9lv1n]

This one was the most interesting for sure, so far :)

[@vertigo7082]

Ahh Delvin! Thanks again mate! You're the MVP!

[@d9lv1n]

​@@vertigo7082 No thank you for such great content!

[@humblehornet621]

Let's goooo!

[@serjtubin]

Hello my dear folks of the barrier!

[@bjorn3185]

I guess the sleepers dream is just another substance from the swamp camp. In german most of the substances have similar names. One for example is "Traumruf" (Call of dream). For me it makes sense, that they names something even more powerfull "Schläfertraum" (Sleepers dream).

[@sliverz_fx]

Then you shall feel the power of the master! You cannot elude it! 😈

[@Pakshee_C]

15:12 why?

[@vertigo7082]

Look, I am not a fan of this "canonical fact" that the orcs took over Khorinis but do you really think that a big ass army stands in line to go through these small tunnels? Them approaching by galleys on the sea way might be the best option. Just my opinion, but yeah I could be totally wrong.

[@Pakshee_C]

Do they need a big army for that one bandit camp? 20 to 30 orcs dudes should be enough. But there are already orc there. Maybe they simply know the sea or mountain way...

[@TalkingHeads2.0]

Nice work guys , btw what microphones do you use>??

[@vertigo7082]

I use the Shure SM7B. I don't know about Sliverz. However, in the last videos I used the compressor of Davinci Resolve and I am not really impressed by it. Getting back to the trusty one of Ableton after the iceberg.

[@sliverz_fx]

@YoBinder Just a normal Blue Yeti microphone :) And I have a noise cancelation on OBS so it sounds crisp with no background noise. :)

[@4F6D]

Brother not to be that guy, but "Schläfers Bann" is not "Sleepers ban" it's more like "Sleepers spell" or "Sleepers Charm". I know the archive calls it like that too, but if it would be "ban" it would be called "Schläfers Verbannung" or something in that direction. Just my take, could be wrong.

[@vertigo7082]

Well if you are to say "Ich banne dich" and old timey way to say "I exclude you" it could still work. It's a little hazy, true but it adds to the mystery. Both could work very well since the Sleeper is "charming/putting a spell" on the inhabitants of the colony OR it is about banning the archdemon!

[@IsaacKing-rx7kf]

Oh i get the idea of the mine crawler milk but how did they do it they are not easy to kill at any lvl let a lone captain

[@jebise1126]

can you loose level due to stunt bonus malus?

[@vertigo7082]

That's a good question, I didn't test this though.

[@bjstrife]

Where did you get the Xardas voiceover reading the letter? Some kind of AI?

[@vertigo7082]

Yeah some type of AI

[@4F6D]

Na I'm not camping

[@natbromden5838]

3:21 this dudes expression looks weirdly real, its funny how they were able to put so much life on potato faces, meanwhile with todays technology it still looks artificial and fake

[@Pakshee_C]

17:38 why should he be dead? He's alive cause he didnt die... hä

[@vertigo7082]

Dunno, never played that mess. I rely on other peoples opinion when it comes to that. I don't want to support that mess of a game.

[@Pakshee_C]

@@vertigo7082 better that way 🤭

[@wolfreich1672]

very well read in german :D

[@4F6D]

He is german...

[@vertigo7082]

Vielen Dank Bruder!

[@Pakshee_C]

I should have watched the video to the end before commenting. I'll get banned for spam 🙈 19:25 probably the other way around. The ancients of varant were followers of Innos, not Adanos. An their story tells how some people leave and start praying to Adanos. (And their caste systems is identical and so on)

[@vertigo7082]

It all depends on when in the timeline they left Varant. The eternal wanderer being Innos chosen is one thing, but they could have left the desert when they already transitioned to the Adanos faith.

[@Pakshee_C]

@@vertigo7082 left the desert, yeah. But Innos faith was first and jharkendar must be the younger civilazation 🤔

[@vertigo7082]

@@Pakshee_C But that is just an assumption. Nothing is really written in stone in the Gothic-universe. I guess we have to wait and see if the Remake will give us some more info on that.

[@Pakshee_C]

@@vertigo7082 its a bit more than an assumption 🤔 if the Wanderer was the first servant of innos and after that SOME of his also innos worshipping people left and became followers of adanos... Thats gothic 3 and gothic 1 says nearly the same. Innos is the first of the gods to speak to humans and they Start worshipping him and aaafter that some are "unsatisfyed" and start worship adanos 🤷🏻

[@vertigo7082]

@@Pakshee_C But you assume that that the people of Varant left for Khorinis while believing in Innos. Maybe they departed once they found their faith in Adanos? Maybe I just don't get it, but I think it is indeed very vague. We don't have a timeline of events.

[@alekseimutovkin]

5th's video... And here we are having some Skyrim fan bragging about TES lore!!!! Ha-ha!

[@bjstrife]

TES lore is actually pretty well made, but mostly the stuff you learn outside of the games themselves.

[@alekseimutovkin]

​@@bjstrife sorry, but TES lore is a bunch on nonsense. Remember the very basic "summon sword" spell that is dirt cheap? Well, they sell it in every major town. The vendor will be right next to a blacksmith's house. Ha-ha! I do really like the Dragon's Reach palace. Its wood-works are amazing... Every fire-breathing dragon is stunned in awe!

[@narkformost867]

what about gothic 1 alpha details?

[@vertigo7082]

What do you mean?