What does the Bible mean by “you are gods” in Psalm 82:6 and John

Does the Bible say we are gods, or that we will become gods? In this video, Pastor Nelson answers your question: What does the Bible mean by “you are gods” in Psalm 82:6 and John 10:34?
Source: www.gotquestio...
*** Check out, Bible Munch!
‪@BibleMunch‬
/ biblemunch
*** Recent Bible Munch Videos:
James 1:2-4 - How to Face Trials in Life & Find Joy
• How to Face Trials in ...
John 4:24 - Is there a wrong way to worship?
• Is there a wrong way t...
Philippians 4:13 - What this misused verse really means.
• Philippians 4:13 - The...
*** Recommended Resource:
John: NIV Application Commentary [NIVAC]
By: Gary M. Burge
bit.ly/3FWmu0y
*** Related Questions:
Are Christians “little gods”?
www.gotquestio...
Why did Jesus teach in parables?
www.gotquestio...
What is theosis?
www.gotquestio...
Intro/Outro Music: www.purple-pla...
Note: Some links may be affiliate links that cost you nothing, but help us share the word of God.

[@hunterhq295]

It's amazing how deep the bible is with just a single verse and many ways to interpret depending on whom reads, we barely scratched the surface with it too.

[@theGayestArtist1]

thank you i agree, theres so many ways to see it

[@lekat525]

We are made in His image and likeness. We are becoming the fullness of Him. This will not be in time, but in eternity. We will always be creation and not the Creator. We will Be like Him in kindness, forgiveness, gentleness, love, joy, peace and patience. These things are the fullness of Him ; the Christ. His people on earth are in a process of sanctification where we choose this fullness. We will never outdo the Creator. ❤

[@PerlitaDuque]

Thank you...

[@BindyCleaver]

@@lekat525 I don't know anyone with even 1 or 3 of those attributes. How is it that we are changed ? I know everyone says we are changed when the Holy Spirit dwells in us but what I meant was I don't know any Christians with those attributes. I know Christians who think they're wonderful but not one who actually is.

[@lekat525]

@@BindyCleaver The Christian walk is so challenging. But with God all things are possible when we apply faith. There are only few that actually apply the faith. May God bless you today with that faith. Perhaps God is calling you today to be the few 🕊🌻

[@Christusolus]

Good call on allowing the comment section for open discussion.

[@johnmeikle1477]

Thank you, You are most helpful to me in understanding our God.

[@the_light_wins1718]

Can you do a video on Philippians 2:5-11 and how it pertains to this and human Belivers sealed in Christ ?

[@LeeHyun-pr7tm]

Your gods, tell me jesus was your god or god gods or begotten son of gods. Jesus can not be father as well as son.What begotten means.

[@heartofalegend]

This one was very helpful. I have heard many sermons and read many commentaries, but this brought the clarity I was in need of.

[@imWillJ]

important to note that the "g" in "god's" is a "lowercase g" , so there are human judges but there is still one Judge.

[@josephrobi6806]

That mean the author and these translators understood they were not Gods but gods, human judges. That was written on skin or papyrus and all capitals or all lowercase with no gap between letters. It was the discretion of the translators to put lowercase or higher case letter because of the context. Just saying 😅

[@fightsatan2408]

God = YHWH gods = children of light that worship the one true God.

[@josephrobi6806]

@@fightsatan2408 yes! YHWH is the name of God but we don’t know how to say it. That is why the translators subjugated with Adonai Lord. Because how do you read that name. Also over 2500 times God is Elohim plural.

[@fightsatan2408]

@@josephrobi6806 he who has the Son (Jesus) also has the father. No man can go to father except through Jesus. So it does not matter how you pronounce YHWH

[@josephrobi6806]

@@fightsatan2408 One part is true only through Jesus but the other part is silly. How do you pronounce if we don’t know? You may say it but it would only be a quest at this point. God did not allowed it. We better stay away from that.

[@samp619]

Ah, "gods" is just a title, or term, and does not refer to us being "Gods" at all. Very helpful video.

[@PrinceJes]

Amen, I needed the reminder of the meaning behind this verse. ❤ 🙏

[@valerianthemackiii5896]

✨️🙏Christ Consciousness🙏✨️ *Psalms 82:6*

[@Ladybug-lz5un]

Yes, the Almighty is the God 🙏❤️ the only God.

[@mattfrench884]

Great job brother. I hope many People lost in cults will find your message.

[@tayvincastillo4767]

LDS need the true Jesus

[@Sternschnuppen85]

Thanks for this explanation and tackling the tough questions at times!

[@JDIVINE144]

Clearly the Bible tells you he said man is made in my image, Jesus spoke for you would do greater things in the end times, Yee are God's. Study the seat of the soul,. Clearly we are manifestors written and spoken into existence the same power image, one must crucify his flesh sacrificing the desires there of! It's the real teachings of yah❤

[@Chess.19]

It’s a lowers case gods. You cannot call humans God with an uppercase G. There’s a difference between god and God

[@vanjones1749]

@@Chess.19yes agreed

[@JayCasinoOfficial]

@@Chess.19man yall try to interpret the Bible the way yall want to…instead what is written. We are gods , stop trying to downplay what you are. You are responsible for your own life

[@jimmienumn9399]

Thank you for that clear-cut understanding

[@sundayomeje6866]

This video is clear and straight. Thank you for this work. Your concluding point is quite emphatic. People need this lesson.

[@achristian11]

According to some cults they want to say that we’re equal to God.

[@Drspeiser]

Whatever could be the problem with that? 😂

[@zerosteel0123]

That's why they are cults

[@Mojo32]

Facts. Even those pesky charismatics 🙄

[@zerosteel0123]

@@Mojo32 nothing wrong with many charismatics. I don't group everyone in a church denomination into good/bad/true church/cult. Doesn't work that way. We will find out when we get to heaven who were the sheep and goats. With groups like Jehovah witnesses that's different. They are a cult but with charismatic, pentecostal, baptist, Lutheran, presbyterian, etc , I do not make judgement calls like that.

[@Mojo32]

@@zerosteel0123 Then clearly you don't pay attention. They literally believe they are also gods and/or like gods... amongst many other false doctrines. DO YOUR HOMEWORK, "zero steel!" 😂 Sheesh 🙄 Regardless, not sure why you're calling me out as the comment is clearly valid, one just needs to actually read the Bible in context and then watch/listen to their shenanigans. But as they say, "opinions are like bellybuttons..." And as a fellow human, you have a right to have one like the rest, BUT it is typically wiser to actually understand the references before you talk down to the rest of us. OPEN YOUR EYES. Maybe it is because you yourself lean towards the charismatics 🤔 lol that'd explain your sensitivity towards the comment I suppose.

[@CoachNoahDavid]

This was really good brother. Thank you and God bless you 🙏🏼✝️

[@crystalklink7558]

I’ve been wondering for a long time what this verse meant. Thank you

[@godswarrior45]

God has a Heavenly counsel they are the sons of God (spiritual beings) He (God) made them before He created us, before He created the earth. “Where were you when I laid the foundation of the earth? Tell me, if you have understanding. Who determined its measurements-surely you know! Or who stretched the line upon it? On what were its bases sunk, or who laid its cornerstone, when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:4‭-‬7 ESV Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came among them to present himself before the Lord. Job 2:1 ESV Psalm 83 talking about His heavenly council, His heavenly Host, the sons of God.

[@Darkseid.of.Apokolips]

We are the sons of the most high

[@BADDMIXX]

Amen! Great Teaching Pastor Nelson! HalleluJAH!

[@littleredpony6868]

In psalms 82 the gods it is referring to is the gods of other nations. In Deuteronomy chapter32:8-9 it talks about the most high dividing up the nations and Israel is the lords inheritance. In the New Testament with Jesus quoting psalms 82 interpreting the gods as human judges is a later reinterpretation of the passage

[@Ardkun00]

This is the correct answer, unfortunately this does not clear the issue of Blasphemy.

[@utubewillis24]

These are definitely not human judges, they are supernatural beings. Psalm 89 places these elohim in the skies. I haven't seen Jewish elders up there. In john, Jesus is quoting psalm 82 not referring to the group he was speaking to as "you". See Michael Heiser's work on this connection. It makes perfect sense

[@DanielScottJohnston]

I've read Heiser, but am not convinced. My biggest problem is how these lesser Elohim would carry out the social justice mentioned in this Psalm. The language is much better suited for human rulers.

[@fightsatan2408]

1 cor 6:2-3 Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you incompetent to try trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we are to judge angels? How much more, then, matters pertaining to this life!

[@spacemanspiff9773]

@@DanielScottJohnston Read Deuteronomy 32.8-9.

[@utubewillis24]

@Spaceman Spiff nailed it. Deut 32: 8-9 (dead sea scrolls reading) tells us that that nations (except Israel) were put over lesser elohim (sons of god) as a judgement for the Babel incident. The term elohim never refers to humans, it is always something disembodied. In psalm 82 they were being judged for their misconduct. That's why at the end of the psalm the writer is asking God to take back the nations. That begins at Pentecost. The 1 Cor passage is clearly speaking of future events and doesn't help us interpret Psalm 82. But it does tell us that God's plan for our future is to displace the corrupt sons of god. For most of my life I missed the context of deut 32 and psalm 82. When you do take a supernatural worldview of the old and new testament, it really makes a lot of things more clear. Bottom line is these are interesting things to talk about, but they don't change the gospel or any major doctrine.

[@fightsatan2408]

@@utubewillis24 Jesus said in John 10:35 If he called them ‘gods,’ to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be set aside- So the born again children of God is how I see it. Thanks

[@BHALAMAN]

Tat Tvam Asi (That Thou Art) is also a Vedantic concept.

[@maxfrost9028]

Thanks for the info!!!

[@CT-if2tt]

For Mormons, it doesn't matter what the Bible says because they think it is corrupt. For them, it comes down to a feeling, a "burning in the bosom," which is entirely subjective. The Bible explicitly warns against this kind of subjectivity in Jeremiah 17:9, and Paul explicitly warned against a new/different "gospel" in Galatians 1:8-9. But since Mormons defer to their feeling instead of what God has said in the Bible, they disregard the Word of God. It's very sad and tragic.

[@alexmala6483]

I think this is the case with Penticostals as well. 🙁

[@inChristalone1960]

I am a former Mormon, now born again Christian. I am trying to understand this verse better so that l can discuss it with my lds family. Do you think it is refering to Nephilim? The tribe of Dan? I have wondered this, or if it refers to human rulers? This is an open question to anyone who can help. Thanks.

[@CT-if2tt]

@@inChristalone1960 It's referring to human rulers (I believe the video covers this). The very next verses in that Psalm say "...but you will die like mere men." Since they die, they can't be gods. Also, the Bible is clear that there is only one God, that there has always been only one God, and that there will never be more than one God (see Isaiah chapters 42-48 - God repeats this many times in those chapters. He says He doesn't even know of any other god (meaning real gods, not false gods like Baal of which there are many - keyword "false" meaning they're not actually gods).

[@inChristalone1960]

@@CT-if2tt Thankyou for your response. That was helpful. Blessings.

[@CT-if2tt]

@@inChristalone1960 You're very welcome - I'm glad it was helpful. I'm thankful for what God has done and is doing in your life! If you're looking for good biblical resources, check out gotquestions (it won't let me paste the full address but it ends in org).

[@ferr1777]

Thanks that was a really sound answer.

[@BadTurtle7]

Thanks for another great video.

[@rev.stephena.cakouros948]

Excellent

[@jim7060]

Amen, amen, and amen you are the one and only true God. ☝️🙏☝️

[@MosaicYM]

Great explanation!

[@hrinthawngkanan5826]

thanks . It's clear

[@camillewilliams3185]

I was reading Psalms earlier and left with the impression that it was talking about people in position of power and authority i.e judges. I subscribe to that main view because of the overall context of the passage. The passage talks about people who were not being just where it came to the wicked and the fatherless. Who would have the role of one who deals with justice? A judge. And then the passage even ends with God saying he is THE judge above everyone else. So it's like here are these men with power to the extent that they're like gods but because of their evil, one day they'll be taken down several pegs and humbled like the rest of us. Although the bit in the first verse talks about a divine council - I think we must remember this is in a book of poetry. It won't always be literal. I think it's simply metaphorical language to describe these powerful men as 'gods'. Now, on the point about it possibly being angelic beings...I don't think that argument is strong enough because angels do not have authority to dole out justice on earth. Either they're demons rebelling against God until the Day of judgement or angels who are ministering spirits/messengers of God. On the argument from Mormons et al about "little gods" or lesser gods - that's already debunked based on scripture in which God says he alone is God deserving of worship and glory. Oftentimes where "gods" are mentioned, its negative and usually refers to false man-made gods.

[@larrymoore2571]

@camillewilliams3185 Camille, YES! You should do a video on how to rightly divide the word of God. I am agreeing with (almost) everything you said. I only propose that God is addressing the religious powers of the day like the Levitical priesthood that had authority of life and death over the people like a god. It is no coincidence that Jesus would bring up Ps 82 to the religious authority that wanted to stone Him to death. ~ John 10: 34-35; Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your law, ‘I said you are 'gods'? If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken),..." This is Jesus revealing their hypocrisy telling them the scripture is calling you 'gods' and you want to stone me for saying I am the Son of God. Thank you and Look Up!

[@Mojo32]

Unfortunately a lot of charismatics push and claim that "we" are gods and can do the things He can/could.

[@bighand1530]

A bunch of phonies in the charismatic churches for sure.

[@Mojo32]

@@bighand1530 For sure. They lack quite a bit of discernment by wanting to read themselves into EVERY Biblical text.

[@bighand1530]

@@Mojo32 Wow.

[@Mojo32]

@@bighand1530 ?

[@AdamEyers]

Ephesians 4:13

[@truth9415]

the original lie was "ye shall not surely die".

[@sandrasoul7]

Thankyou

[@kyonidesarkanthos7438]

I guess this will also be connected to the day we believers will judge the world, because we had faith in Christ, and even the angels as the Apostle Paul told us in 1 Corinthians 6:2-3.

[@JosephSmith-ph4xr]

Having well explained the two possible meaning of the term 'gods' in Psalm 82 - an explanation that clearly shows the word 'God/god has a range of meanings, the Pastor concludes by contradicting himself. Jesus in jOhn 10 :24-36 clearly shows Jesus to be identifying himself as the promised mesiah and calls himself the Son of God, not God. The whole point is that the Jews were claiming that he was callimg himself a God/god and Jesus made it clear that he could call himself Soin of God.

[@freemarley639]

Thank you sir

[@mandodelorian4668]

I wonder if this was partly meant as a stumbling block, as many use it for false teaching, trying to say that "we, humans, literally are gods".

[@josephrobi6806]

Well put together. 😅

[@micheledau1294]

I auppose it is relative to being a "Lord" (ie, lord or lady) meaning authority.

[@SkitzPittz]

Genesis 3:22

[@explorerofmind]

The Hebrew word for god just means power. Anyone or anything that was given power over other people in the Bible was considered a power, or a god. That’s why the Lord is referred to as the Most high God or sometimes as the only god. He is the true source of power. That doesn’t mean he is the only one that can be considered a power. That’s because he gives his power to others and has a multi-seated throne according to Revelation . There’s no reason to mysticize the word God or to misrepresent what “Mormons”, or members of the Church of Jesus Christ, believe about them.

[@leofelix9527]

Amen

[@WORDversesWORLD]

All religions are worldly and the lack knowledge is why most people will never see the truth. And you listening to men rather than listening for the Holy Spirit is what’s keeping you on the fence!

[@joshuakarr-BibleMan]

Paul's letters to Timothy clearly indicate there are men who are meant to teach.

[@bradharford6052]

The reality of this subject is that Jesus married humanity and divinity in His incarnation, death and resurrection. We have become partakers of the divine nature. Corporately speaking, together, we are the actual body of Christ. Whatever He is, so we are also. Pretty simple.

[@klarag7059]

Please define “we” and use Scripture to explain.

[@bradharford6052]

@@klarag7059 We is all of humanity. This would be the all that die in Adam and the same all that are made alive in Christ. That would also be every human being, which are the offspring of God and live and move and have their being in Him. That particular all includes the pagan idol worshippers that Paul was addressing in Athens. It would also include every tongue that eventually will confess Jesus Christ as Lord. Pretty much everybody.

[@kirkwallace-cy7fu]

In the book of Genesis states, the man has become like one of us, meaning the man has become like a god.

[@CommandoJenkins]

The reason Adam was not permitted to eat the tree of life after sinning was out of mercy, that they wouldn't have eternal life of sin.

[@333Cherubim._.]

I don't know but genesis 3:22 states different? Tho we are cursed there is LIGHT, we must acknowledge GOD and leave our idols(money) and start serving GOD of Life(JESUS)..I mean GOD did say to serve >>>THE LORD

[@freddielittle9825]

Genesis 3:22 God says that man has become like one of us to know good and evil and yes God tell us tell I not say you are like gods JOHN 10:34 amen ✅👍💯🦔🦅

[@lorenzotruth3897]

Not to incite a debate or disagreement, but @ 0.35 you are not quoting Psalms 82:6. You are actually quoting Psalms 82:6 AND 7. The only reason I bring this up is because when quoting from the scriptures, I think we should be truthful and transparent as possible.

[@Elvengem]

Probably becoming judges is what being gods is. Liuke 19:18The second servant came and said, ‘Master, your mina has made five minas.’ 19And to this one he said, ‘You shall have authority over five cities.’Luke 22:29 And I bestow on you a kingdom, just as My Father has bestowed one on Me,

[@TheRealTomahawk]

So what’s the truth and like do we listen to Jesus or do we listen to you?

[@JMusar795]

❤❤❤

[@romancanales573]

Cap I'm a God he made me in in his likeness therefore he is a God wake up and realize your true potential ❤️💪🙏

[@the_light_wins1718]

Can you do a video explaining Philippians 2:5-11 Romans 8:29

[@thomasjefferson5727]

I'm trying to figure out when this happened. The "gods" we see in ancient history all around the world, were the fallen angels, when God saw them being unjust he condemned them all, but when did this happen?

[@busfeet2080]

The gods of the other nations were sentenced to death in Psalm 82. But that sentence isn’t carried out until Jesus’s resurrection. See Colossians 2:15 and Ephesians 4:8. The “captives” in Eph. 4:8 are the corrupt “beney elohim” of Deuteronomy 32:8 and Psalm 82.

[@Bright_Sol]

Seems pretty strait forward. They were originally called Sons of the Most High by God, as well as Gods. The Septuagint translation changes this to Angels and the Masoretic called them rulers.

[@danielolajumoke4389]

Thank you so much for going back to the original lie the serpent told. The same lie satan told still finds its way in this present day and age. Man will never attain divinity. No! The moment we think we think we do, man begins to worship man. God is a Deity and only YAWEH deserves worship. May God bless your ministry in Jesus name. Amen 🙏

[@alohaohana901]

Good question. What "made-up" answer did you come up with this time?

[@SixTraythegoat]

So guy walked up to me in Walmart today asking if I know that I’m a god..? I told him show me where in the Bible does it say I am a god and not a child of god ?

[@lorenzotruth3897]

Lastly, I say this: I am the god of me. Thee God, want me to be the god of me. What we think, what we eat, what we watch on TV, how we conduct ourselves, all the way to how we follow Jesus, STARTS WITH US!! When you give your god power over to others, then THEY will become your earthly god. This is how Jim Jones succeeded. We are gods, and are representing God. For myself, no one will ever change this for me. God= Good. We are all Goodm until we give this good to EVIL.

[@Hupernike45]

Where is the divine council? On Earth or in the unseen realm? And why would YHWH tell men that they're going to die like men?

[@bobinmontana777]

What do you say to a brother in Christ who ties the Greek words “kosmos”, the topic you speak of here, “gods”, and the Bible verses which refer to “you are kings and priests” together for some yet to be defined personal role in heaven?

[@ronaldthomas5307]

At the end of this video you summed it up by saying humans aren’t god. God is god. This is the epitome of being a Christian. No explanation just have faith. Even if the word says your a god you find a way to say your not. If Jesus was pleading in this part of the scripture just to avoid being stoned then why is it even significant to write this in Bible? What was significance of this story? To say there are gods among us but will die like men? Why

[@pliyanage7832]

this isnt your fault but the reasoning you explained is what hindus say they call avatars gods when they are not all powerful, so that just beats the meaning of god

[@renatovasquez6041]

God named gods only those directly received his words,Moises,Abraham, Jesus, Deut, 18:18-19 /John 10:34-35,not all pastors, theologians, christians,

[@jontopham2742]

6:17 it's weird that the gnostic view of Jesus being the serpent in Genesis is validated at 6:17 because instead of being antithetical it is the same message

[@newebug]

ok, then in Genesis 6:1-4 , When man began to multiply on the face of the land and daughters were born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of man were attractive. And they took as their wives any they chose. who're the sons of God, king's sons on the ground or angels in the sky?

[@cipherknowledge3555]

Human Judges or People of Authority who lived long periods of Time. That is why it said "MIGHTY MEN WHICH WERE OF OLD," and "MEN OF RENOWN." Now lets use the dictionary. MIGHTY - Someone who is very potent and powerful that has a lot of influence with leadership qualities. OLD - having lived for a very long time. Remember that people back then use to live for hundreds of years RENOWN - The condition of being known or talked about by many people; basically someone who is very famous. GIANT - A person of exceptional talent or qualities; someone who is larger than life. The Sons Of God were righteous men that walked in fellowship with God. The Daughters of Men were the ungodly and unjust women that the righteous men fell for because of their beauty. 1 Corinthians 15:33 says "Be not deceived: evil communications corrupt good manners." Basically it is saying that BAD COMPANY CORRUPTS GOOD MORALS, which is very true. King Solomon was righteous, but when he got old, a lot of those wives and concubines turn him away from God. The samething happen with the Sons of God Verse 3 made it clear that the scripture is talking about humanity when God said "My spirit shall not always strive with MAN, for that he also is flesh." Verse 4 made it clear that Mighty Men and Giants existed before the Sons of God came into the Daughters of Men. So Genesis 6:1-4 is really talking and Human beings, not angels. The Book Of Enoch came up with that false Angel theory.

[@disco4535]

So the bible says there are multiple gods? Crazy

[@_tsl]

exactly bruh its od confusing

[@JoeCanella]

Helpful, except where he misquotes psalm 82:6 @ 5:28. When he shows John 10:34-36

[@cipherknowledge3555]

He didn't misquote it at all. What he did was show the verse (Psalm 82:6) what Jesus use and quoted in John 10:34-35.

[@bloomstring2021]

God created man in his image & likeness. gods refers to those who know their identity as being created by and carrying the very presence of God. An eagle can not give birth to a chicken or a goat, so gods here means those who have accepted , believe and are living right with him. Not necessarily referring to judges of any kind.

[@bobd2643]

Very good presentation. Have you considered John 8:41 compared to John 10:30-33? The Jews also claimed that God was their Father. This is evidence that they were not truly about to stone Him because of His claim of being one with the Father. It was their excuse for doing so, but not their real motivation. Matthew 27:18 tells us that envy was their motivation.

[@Sons_of_Thunder.]

Jesus holds the answer of the gods/elohim of Psalm 82 in John 10. Israel are the "gods" in Psalm 82, the "gods" are human NOT nonhuman meaning angels/spirit beings. Israel was unique from the pagan nations that surrounded them, Israel had the law of God, 10 commandment, prophets and a Levitical priesthood. Since Israel had the law of God, it put Israel in the position of being "gods," becuase God chose them, Israel was God's chosen people. They were chosen because of Christ. Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you; John 10: 34-35 Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35 If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," 1. >>>>"I said, “You are gods” >>>>>ONCE by the God (Father) in Psalm 82. Aspaph is the Author and Psalmist of Psalm 82. Prophets of the Old Testament like Asaph the "word of the Lord" would come to Prophets like Asaph. Prophets were the "Voice" of God. God (Father) would communicate His words through the prophets, God does that here in Psalm 82:6 I said, “You are gods, sons of the Most High, all of you;">>>>>>>>Israel, Psalm 82 uses the word "all". This clearly is not about a bunch of watchers/super angels of a divine council. The Psalms were written to and for Israel. 2. SECOND time Jesus in John 10: 34 Repeats >>>> ‘I said, “You are gods”

[@AnotherTimothy]

think thats the absolute best reasoning ive heard in this comment section, thanks for the research!

[@Sons_of_Thunder.]

@@AnotherTimothy You are very Welcome, that is why I posted it. At least your comment was kind and appreciated, some do not take this post to kindly, they like to argue against it.

[@fromthewrath2come]

So happy you are carrying forward the Divine Council worldview. I finally understand my destiny.

[@denisecoleman5090]

My question is why did they translate it gods . Which cause so much confusion. Could have just said judges or rulers .

[@jimberlygridder183]

God is speaking to the angels in His heavenly council..or heavenly host. They were allotted over the nations. 70 nations. But they mislead the men, so He was telling them they would die as men. Because they came down and bread with human women according to genesis 6.

[@eddieyoung2104]

The word 'Elohim' simply means 'might one' or 'mighty ones'. So, the judges of Israel were mighty ones because they had the power to judge the people. The children of God when made immortal at Jesus' return will also be mighty ones, according to Ps 149:5-9 where judgement is again a feature. Jesus said that his father had committed all judgement unto him, which would make him a mighty one like those in Ps 82:6. This didn't mean that Jesus was calling himself Almighty God as the Jews assumed, but rather that he was only the son of God as he admitted in Jo 10:36. When he said 'I and my father are one', he was referring to one in purpose rather than being equal with God. This is shown by what he says before this about the sheep, where both he and his father have the same control over them.

[@joshuaaaron4179]

I don't see the word "judges" in Exodus 21:6 nor 22:8,9, and 28. What translation are you using?

[@AdamEyers]

The serpent may have lied in Genesis 3:4 but not in Genesis 3:5 as confirmed in Genesis 3:22.

[@truthbebold4009]

Hello. I disagree again with how you interpret these verses. In verse 5, the serpent claimed that good things would come from to God: their eyes would be opened and they shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. In verse 7 we discover their "eyes were opened" but they weren't blessed like they had anticipated. Unlike before, when they had healthy interactions with the Lord, now they feared Him. They were no longer clothed with Christ's righteousness. The Holy Spirit had been grieved by their disobedience and from them, them naked and afraid. Verse 22 continues with the tongue-in-cheek attitude of "congratulations on your new god status" and essentially saying "be careful what you wish for".

[@AdamEyers]

@@truthbebold4009 and yet God brought them to a better state than they had before the fall by providing a way for them to come unto the full measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ. Ephesians 4:13

[@SkitzPittz]

Does it say judges or magistrates are all gods or ye are all gods? Come on man recognize who you are

[@steveniruthaya]

Question. Elohim is used in respective or/and plural forms. If it was used as the plural form. How can Jesus be Yewhaw/ Johova? After a few verses, Jesus claims that "I am that I am" as the god. Could you please explain that to me? Can you get the literal translation of Psalam 82:6. Since English doesn't have a plural form of "you" , the pronoun becomes a problem.

[@4showingz330]

You missed it like i did until the Spirit of Truth revealed it to me.

[@klarag7059]

Who missed what? Revealed what? Please, I’m genuinely interested.

[@4showingz330]

@@klarag7059 "Praise Yahweh " first of all we have to get a understanding of what the biblical definition of what the word God/gods means, it's means spiritual being, this is why scripture tell us that God/Yahweh is a Spirit and those who worship Him must do so in Spirit and Truth, we have bn taught through tradition to call Him God, which is not His Name (Yahweh) is.. this is why we have to be careful when we pray to God we can be praying to any spiritual being without defining his true name, Satan is a spiritual being, fallen Angels are spiritual beings, demonic spirits are spiritual beings, and we also are spiritual beings which is defined as gods, when Jesus was speaking in John 10:-32-34 , He said, i & The Father is One, meaning as Spiritual beings in The Unity of The Spirit of The Holy Spirit, this is why the Jews did not understand and they said he was blasphemy, because he made himself equal with God/Yahweh, so what he was saying we as His creation is a spiritual being/ god's and if we believe in Jesus Christ death burial and Resurrection his precious blood and many stripes that was shed upon the cross, we are His Son's and Daughter's, in The unity of His Spirit in Christ, and when the brother spoke on elohim that means Spirit also, in the book of genesi when he was creating the heavens and the Earth it said ello him move on the face of the water it was saying the Spirit of Yahweh moved upon the face of the, I hope this was very helpful to you and many others and To Yahweh be all the Glory now and forever ,Truth ❤️ 🙏

[@dnew2136]

We all come from the one and only source. So what does that make you?

[@eruelwilliam4303]

I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are achildren of the most High. 7 But ye shall adie like men, and fall like one of the princes. 8 Arise, O God, ajudge the earth: for thou shalt inherit all nations. This is talking about all born again believers. ‘I said, you are gods’? 35 If he called them gods to whom the word of God came-and Scripture cannot be broken- 36 do you say of him whom the Father consecrated and sent into the world, The KEY verse is verse 35.....If he called them gods, to whom the word of God came.... The word makes you a god. God is GOD (Capital G) We are small g. That means we are offsprings of God. We came out of God in Genesis. If we come out of Banana, we will be called banana. If we come out of God, we become god john 1: The word incarnated became man. The word became flesh and dwelt among man. Therefore to conclude the word is supposed to make us become god. Remember the word is Life and Spirit. When we meditate, read the word, it transforms us into the likeness and image of God. Romans 8:29 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. So we also have the mind of christ. 1 Corinthians 2:16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ We cannot defeat the devil in our flesh but when we operate as a god.

[@deathveteranxd6650]

So hes saying hes god as an authority but he says that him and the father are one, and many people use this verse to say he is God? So is he just an authority with high status or is he God?

[@robertmurdock9750]

Jesus said He and the Father were one He is in the Father and the Father is in Him and We and Him are one we in Him and He in us. We are his coheirs and He is coheir with the Father, all He has we have and all the Father has He has.

[@fightsatan2408]

:) Jesus is heir and we are co heirs with him. (He cannot be co heir with Father)

[@robertmurdock9750]

@@fightsatan2408 You are right. Thank you for pointing this out.

[@RaleighRealEstateSage]

The second view makes no sense and is counter to the culture of the time. The problem with Christians (I am a Christian) is that they only want to read the Bible in English and assume that only the thought pattern that exists today is the same thought pattern in ancient culture. That’s one of the biggest problems with us Christians today and why many Christians fall away from the faith when going to seminary. Learn a bit of Hebrew and ancient culture and you won’t come away with ideas like the second choice is the better choice which would then really complicate your understanding of God.

[@ForkThe6]

God's eternity is present in each and every single one of us. Now, while on earth there are temporary rulers who govern imperfectly for a certain period of time the perfect realm in Heaven is being ruled perfectly and endlessly by God. Jesus came to show us how to live a life full of love by selflessly giving His life for us and with that besides the fact that He is God incarnated He also became the best mortal example of goodness. If on earth we vote for political leaders who try to falsely present themselves as good, how much more should we give not only our vote, but also our devotion to the one who represents goodness and love as a Heavenly ruler. The realm of darkness in the Bible is also described with properties of endlessnes but where suffering and and evilness rule eternally in absence of love. In Christ we are beloved children of God, outside of his love we become slaves of fear and unbelief. That is why the cross is eternal symbol of the price paid for our salvation from the enslavement of sin where fear is unescapeable. Therefore, have faith in Christ and rejoice for the good Shepard is coming back soon.

[@MrTrickatreat]

In the ancient world, people could be elevated to "god" status. Kings were referred to as gods (see Solomon for example). The king of israel has been referred to as "god". This is not specific to the bible. Hercules for example. People could become gods, gods could become humanish, etc...

[@CaptainPantys]

What a bummer. I thought I was gonna get force powers and flying abilities and supers powers and stuff.

[@truth9415]

we can become gods. This is basically what the holy spirit is. It's GOD! He does give us power. Especially when we get closer to end of the days. Prophets will rise up and lead the people. The Prophets were almost like gods/superheros lol

[@JosiahTheSiah]

If Jesus is seen as using the "human rulers" interpretation, then that downplays his divinity, right before he up-plays it by saying he and the Father are one. IOW it's a nonsensical interpretation. For that reason, I don't think that interpretation is in view here. This deserves another look-what if Jesus was using the divine council interpretation?

[@Mil_0_doom-ux7cu]

Even as a 15 yo Ik this is wrong first the word used for god in the Hebrew Bible is Elohim which is used for god but also used for angles and other things of that nature and even if it was true how are you going to take this one thing from the Old Testament and say it’s right even tho Jesus himself constantly tells gentiles to not worship any other god but him as he said “worship me as you would the father” just needed to clear that up god bless my friend🙏❤️✝️

[@RealRadNek]

So, I understand the governing aspect of "some" humans on earth having positions of authority that are god like (little g on purpose) but I think this interpretation comes up short of the full context. Jesus seems to be taking a broader perspective. He is pointing out what the Psalmist was saying that we are "all" little g gods (little elohims as the Psalmist says in the Hebrew). We are limited finite yet "autonomous" beings created by the uncreated infinite God (The "I AM"). We are not I AM status nor will we be ever. From Psalm 82:6, is not the author there speaking of ALL of humanity being "sons of God" in the image sense (little g god status), all of us, not just a few who have "judge" like authority? Jesus was claiming God status (or I AM status - see also John 8:58-59) in the "fleshly" sense in John 8, i.e.God coming down out of heaven and taking on human flesh and form (John 1:1,14). Jesus was claiming He had authority as THE “Son of God,” i.e. I AM status, fully on par with God and this is why they wanted to kill Him. If he had simply said, “I am a little g god like you” they would have agreed with Jesus. We are autonomous beings (little g gods), created in the Almighty's image (Gen 1:26-27), placed within the limitations and parameters of the physical and spiritual realities God has created for us on this earth (Gen 1:1). That’s why we need the big G God, the I AM, Jesus in the flesh to redeem us from our sin. Little g god status does nothing for us before a holy and righteous God who created us. Am I wrong?

[@spiritofeli]

El is singular and Elohim is plural and it is also a plural title for the one true El. Psalms 82 speaks of both men and angels as Elohim. We know both are judges and rulers because of how there ends come "Human gods will die like men and angel gods will fall like one of the "Princes" (princes are common term for Angel rulers) This is also why Isaiah said that The Lord would punish the Hosts of Heaven and the Kings of the Earth Isaiah 24:21 This is also why Y'Shua called Ha Satan the "Prince" (Angel ruler) of this world and said nothing of Yahweh would be in Him. However it is scary that Christians do not know that Satan and his angels all pose as gods and answer prayers! Most Christians pray to the Lord in the name of His enemy. Isaiah 65:11 (read it in Hebrew) But we all have the chance to do our Lord right. I refuse to call Him by the names of Ba'eli anymore!

[@faithfultoyeshua4576]

You misinterpreted i and my father are one

[@MoyceJeyer-sn2iw]

If he's talking about human judges, I see no point in calling them gods, even with a "lowercase g". You call judges- judges.

[@Impericalevidence]

Perhaps I need to read the gospels again, but as I recall, Jesus was being accosted, mentioned this scripture then the people said "not for the good works you do, but for the bad, for you being a man say that you are the son of God". There are the 4+ gospels, so maybe it said it this one way here, and that one way there. Have you heard of the "pulp fiction" idea of Jesus back then? That Jesus was more or less like iron man and Captain America, that he's a character in a story, with words to be put in his mouth like the two Jews who invented superman, truth, justice, and the American way? Have you read the gospel of Judas, the gospel of Thomas? Do you have your own opinion, or the one given to you by the church? These are good questions, I will not provide the answers, because I do not know. That's a "you" thing.

[@Impericalevidence]

Oh, and as for psalm 82, it was referenced for a reason, for it was in psalm 82 that the god of the Bible said "have I not said, you are gods, all of you...?" God made you, dear reader, fearfully and wonderfully, and who should fear? Who should wonder? These questions are rhetorical.

[@Impericalevidence]

Mind you "have I not said?" That you are gods. That's what gets me, maybe because it's lost in translation when God said he "made you in his image", that he breathes his life into the body you inhabit, maybe that's when he said he said it, maybe. The biggest difference of the god of the Bible that I can discern with the others is that the other gods say "do this, do that, do this, do that" but the Bible god says "I will do this, do that, do this, do that." The Bible god is here for mutual service, to love and to be loved, despite all the ugly details. Do you love me? Feed my sheep. As for me: I do not know if I am good or bad, or if I please god or not. What I know is "without faith it is impossible to please god" and "behold, I am the Lord's servant."

[@larrymoore2571]

Oh, I think you missed the entire point of Jesus referencing Ps 82 to the religious authorities that wanted to have Him stoned to death. Psalm 82 is talking about the God given authority of the Levitical priesthood that had the power of life or death over the people, thus they were in essence little 'gods'. These priests had direct access to God's will through the Urim and Thummim but abused their authority. Look at Jesus' rebuke of the religious authority here: ~ Matthew 23; “So you testify against yourselves, that you are sons of those who murdered the prophets. Fill up, then, the measure of the 'GUILT OF YOUR FATHERS'. You serpents, you brood of vipers, how will you escape the sentence of hell? Now compare with ~ Psalm 82; "How long will you judge unjustly and show partiality to the wicked? Vindicate the weak and fatherless; Do justice to the afflicted and destitute. Rescue the weak and needy. Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked. They do not know, nor do they understand. They walk about in darkness; All the foundations of the earth are shaken. I said, “You are gods, And all of you are sons of the Most High nevertheless, you will die like men." Even though Psalm 82 is written in poetic (song) form it still is important to note that angels are immortal and cannot die. ~ Zechariah 7; Then the word of the LORD of hosts came to me, saying, say to all the people of the land and to the ''PRIESTS', ...Dispense true justice and practice kindness and compassion each to his brother; and do not oppress the widow or the orphan, the stranger or the poor; and do not devise evil in your hearts against one another. But they refused to pay attention and turned a stubborn shoulder and stopped their ears from hearing.

[@MillenniumProphet]

If you understand the gods of the old testament are type 2+ (at least interstellar) ET Elohim that were responsible for hybridizing/genetically engineering the most advanced hominid about 250,000 years ago giving birth to the first Adamu from one of the goddesses wombs to create a workforce into a garden to altar delivery service. We do this like gods when we domesticate animals and adjust their genetics for our benefit. A direct example of this is that we are hybridizing our DNA with pigs, human-pig chimeras, to grow replacement organs for humans. Now with the latest starship launch yesterday we are seeing what it really means to be like the gods who travelled through space and lived tens of thousands of years according to ancient tablets. The father Jesus speaks of is the one true source, found from going within, that Paul describes as the source of the cosmos and everything in it, that in which we live and move and have our being and are all offspring: even the "gods".

[@tomnoyb8301]

Divine Council consists of senior Son's-of-God who each administer a nation or a people as defined in Deut32. Here in Psalm82, God is scolding Son's-of-God of the Divine Counsel for poor administration , threatening they should die as mere mortals. Psalm82:5 refers to humans, who are children-of-God, not yet promoted to heaven where they graduate to become full-fledged Son's-of-God. As children (-of-God), humans know nothing and see nothing, unlike heavenly beings (e.g. Son's-of-God and Angels) who see both realms. How can one be sure God isn't scolding human judges? Mostly because human judges already know they will die, so threatening death is no threat at all. Obviously, God-the-Father is chiding His Divine Council (Son's-of-God), not the poor blind humans.