Govee Lyra VS Hue Gradient Signe - Which Is Better?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Apologies about the audio/voiceover in the video. I messed it up in post and didn't realise whilst editing. Please enable subtitles to understand better if you can't understand me without them. Thanks everyone for watching in any case! Timestamps are in the description if you want to skip around. Please let me know in the comments if you think I missed anything or if there's anything you think I could improve, thanks. Feel free to use the links in the description as it helps support the channel. They are affiliate links and I do receive a small commission, so thank you if you do use them. If not, that's still okay. I did a full review of the Hue Gradient Signe lamp a couple of weeks ago if you're interested: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kIubhWqgfNV5g6M

[@mcbrite]

Thanks for the vid, very helpful! Do you know the difference between the Signe and the Signe Gradient, by any chance?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@mcbrite The Signe is just white and the gradient is fully RGB

[@wagnerfsj]

Great product comparison! I am a Hue fan, but honestly $300 for a signe is outrageous! Since I only need these for my home office, I figured I’d try Govee first. I am rather impressed with the overall experience with Govee you showed in your video. Looking forward to testing it out myself. Thanks again!

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks Wagner, yeah, the pricing of the Signe is ridiculous. Govee is a great alternative at less than half the price. More customisable and the remote is so convenient

[@mcbrite]

If it's for the office and you can stand it being a desk lamp, rather than a floor lamp, you can get the smaller Signe for close to the same price as the Lyra in the video...

[@JelaniZarathustra]

I have both and the Signe is substantially superior in build quality and fluidity in colors transition. The Lyra also has a bulkier power outlet while the Signe is a basic 2 prong. That said, its 2.5x the price making the Lyra an excellent value. Another bonus is the Lyra has a remote.

[@greent26tube]

Spot on. Great points.

[@roro_81]

Which one gets more dim

[@JamesThompson-hn3sm]

Cracking video ,I have hue and usually only buy them on black friday deals or good sales days ,I've just ordered a lyra because the hue version is taking the p#ss price wise and I got the lyra for £110

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks James, really glad you enjoyed the video. The Lyra is a fantastic piece of kit for the price. Will definitely be picking up more. The Signe Lamp is very expensive for pretty much the same thing. It's more responsive and the App is better, but I think it could have been priced lower. £180 - £200 would have been okay in my opinion. Hue definitely needs to update the App to add more dynamic scenes and allowing more freedom with the colour combos.

[@mcbrite]

Nice review, cheers! To be fair to the Govee App: The HUE app was a TOTAL POS for the longest time, so they had much longer to optimize/perfect it...

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Yeah, that's a good point.

[@Aggie1295]

It seems like the Philips Hue is just a bit higher quality, but I don't think it's worth double the price. Govee seems to have decent products at affordable prices.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Yeah, Govee are a real contender. The competition is good as it could potentially drive down philips hue prices in the future. Thanks for watching

[@ShellymanStudios]

@@ManchesterTechGuy I'm from the future, and they did drove down the price 🤣

[@giovannitodeschini7670]

Hey MTG, thank you for this review, but the monotone delivery makes it really hard to follow what you are saying and the numbers in your ratings do not make much sense - a breakdown like "Govee Lyra/Hue Gradient Signe has/doesn't have this" would have been much clearer.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks Giovanni. Yeah, my delivery isn't the best honestly and it's something I'm trying to improve with each upload. I changed it up a bit in my latest video and I messed up the audio on this a little too. Thanks for the feedback and watching

[@jonathanehlers6855]

I just pre ordered the Lyra for $102 on Black Friday, no brainer. Can't wait till it ships!

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Awesome. Yeah, it's a no brainer at the original price too. Philips Hue definitely need to drastically lower prices as Govee will keep getting better.

[@IkomiMoses]

Same here

[@tsipliontsip]

Well done, what a deal! Did that price include shipping and taxes?

[@damendred1]

I got one at the same time on sale, and been happy with it. It got a lil flicker on one of the segments, in certain colors. I've had this happen a few times over the years, including this year with a phillips bulb, so seems like a color LED thing. Anyway, Govee CS simply asked for a video of it, and have now shipped me an entirely new lamp (which is amazing since the other one is honestly still perfectly usable, my gf is a bit annoyed by it, but I don't even notice. So even though there was a slight flaw, this level of Customer service and standing behind their warranty honestly gives them a bonus point imo. I've bought a lot of different smart lighting, but I'm slowly shifting my house to be entirely govee (it's annoying to use multiple apps) Also with the TV immersion govee products work together in amazing ways!

[@gman5375]

Good review mate, straight to the point and no guff. Cheers.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks G Man, appreciate the kind words. That's always my aim.

[@Battosai]

that black on the hue gradient is actually really sleek, love it

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

It really does. The build quality is on another level

[@user-cc7yo6dm9b]

Hue is better. You get what you pay for. So many people just chirping about how it’s too expensive. Well yeah because it’s higher quality.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Yeah, 100% agree. The Govee light's build quality is not very good. It wobbles like mad and is worse after a couple of years

[@noorejaz2835]

Wow that's a really good comparison and the video is nice as well. Good Work !

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks ❤️ Appreciate the kind words

[@cozynumb983]

Those both performance is dope but I recommend you to buy Govee Lyra because it's so on budget🤑💸

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

I have the Govee Lyra in my home office and it's awesome

[@John_Croft]

Im looking for new tube lighting and came across the Govee lyra but didnt know about Philips version, but after looking up info etc i prefer the Govee lyra mostly cause of the huge price difference

[@billtthatsme]

But I can but 2 Govee for less than the price of one Phillips. The difference isn't that drastic. Phillips is overpriced.

[@Chrissage-Gaming]

Yeah, this is true, but your also getting a product with less desirable build quality and materials. You really do get what you pay for.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Hue quality is a lot higher. The Lyra has to be assembled and it's always wonky no matter what I do.

[@REALLYRANDOMREVIEW5]

Good comparison Video mate ! Full of Info and Good quality footage Liked and Sub'd keep up the good work

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thank you for the kind words and thank you for watching and subbing, really appreciate it

[@kingkobra1956]

You have to nit pick the Govee in the comparison against Hue. I have 3 Govee H6072 lamps and totally satisfied with them. I also have the Hue table lamp, play bars, and the 1600 lumen color bulb. I love Hue but there isn't way I'd pay three hundred dollars for their floor lamp. Lighting is expensive and eventually will have to be replaced at some point in time when they cease functioning. The combination of Hue and Govee intergrating is absolutely amazing. I would have liked to stay in the Hue ecosystem, but not at their prices.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Yeah, that's a fair point. Having a mix of both is the best bet. I've purchased more govee lights as well after I released this video, so I'm definitely rocking both and enjoying both

[@kingkobra1956]

@@ManchesterTechGuy I neglected to mention that it was a nice video, good job.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@kingkobra1956 Thank you Michael. Not happy with the audio quality, but glad you enjoyed it

[@IcemanX504X]

Great video, but the reason the govee lamp was slow to respond in the app color wheel, was due to you were connected to lamp using Bluetooth. I have the lamp check again when you're connected using WiFi, the color wheel is dead on accurate.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks Anthony, I'm sure I tried it with WiFi as well, but I can check again.

[@alialshwq]

thanks

[@hydroaegis6658]

You can DIY a Signe with a Hue gradient lightstrip.

[@arnovanwingerde8589]

True... and you can change the style and length as well, but it is not all that easy and even the strip is more expensive than the Govee...

[@hydroaegis6658]

@@arnovanwingerde8589 I know. It's an option for those people who want Hue but think $300 for a lamp is too much.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Yeah, that's definitely possible

[@denodan]

The thing that concerns me, yes the most expensive are nice, but they also look you into their eco system. Been burned on several occasions and now don't go for the top models, due to your locked into them to get the best out of them. That's the price you pay for these over expensive light bars, hue, harmony etc, they lock in. I perfer off the shelf stuff now, more options and your not locked in

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks for the comment Dennis. You make some rally good points. Gives me something to think about. Since I want to review tech, I can't ignore these products unfortunately, as expensive as they are.

[@arnovanwingerde8589]

I hear you, but that also typically leaves you with a whole bunch of assorted systems, each with their own remotes and apps, or trying to combine it under something like Home Assistant which basically is something of a full time job... The Hue stuff is expensive and vendor-locked, but it works and keeps working, a rather Apple like experience. I have some products from OSRAM and Paul Neuhaus and they worked less well and failed after a few years. I think I had 1 light buld from Hue failing (out of 30 or so...).

[@kevcube]

You’re right in almost all cases but the hue ecosystem has proven to be an outlier. They were the first in the smart lighting market and they’re still the most stable which is saying a lot.

[@JTB--]

Govee is destroying Phillips with similar products that are actually Affordable/Cheaper

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Yeah, philips hue need to step up big time

[@ryanexplorer]

Philips hue SUCK with their need of a hue bridge, I really regret going with them

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@ryanexplorer Yeah, it should really work without it. Hopefully they'll improve this in the next version of the lights

[@angelahopkins7357]

Not so fast!!! The lyra sucks!! They are failing at the 6 mth to 8 mth mark.

[@kevcube]

I disagree with you awarding the unboxing point to govee because unboxing the assembled product is more enjoyable than pulling parts out

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

I get where you're coming from. I guess it depends on what type of person you are. I love tinkering with things, so it's right up my alley. Of course it's different for you

[@dagg497]

What limits you from buying 2 pairs of Bluetooth HarmanKardon speakers. Buying a Govee led strip and fixate it to a led alumium fixture, create a base for it to sit ontop of the BT speaker. Kazaam! For 200$ per piece you have a stereo pair of speakers with a led show exactly like this for 30$ extra for the led feature. Total for a stereo par 460$ 😷

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Hey, it's just for convenience honestly. If I spent the time I could set one up myself and it would be better and cheaper

[@sekefy1]

Hue is brighter 2500lm and Govee is 1500lm so if you wan a bright lamp I believe hue is the better

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Yeah, that's correct. Although both options are very bright at their respective max brightness levels.

[@pierremayer94]

Thank you for the detailed review! This is the best comparison on KZbin.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thank you for the kind words Pierre and thank you for watching

[@She_Shorts]

I only watched this for information on the light. but just to give some feedback if you're wondering why your channeling is not growing: this was veryyy frustrating to watch. It almost sounds like you're talking another language and your mumbling on all your words. Not friendly to the ear at all. My goodness gracious.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thank you for the feedback. I know the voiceover is bad. I also messed up the audio on this video, which at the time I didn't realise and uploaded thinking it was fine. If you watch my video on the Ruveno Door Lock you'll see that I tried changing up how I was speaking. I'm still new to KZbin and learning.

[@Puntonghua]

Thank you, this is exactly what I needed 👍🏾

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

You're welcome, glad it was helpful

[@billtthatsme]

If the pricing was closer I'd select Hue but it's not. I can buy 3 Govee for the price of one hue. This is where the team at Phillips is dumb.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Price is pretty high, but the quality does speak for itself. Maybe not double or triple the price

[@angelahopkins7357]

The lyra won't last!!! There is a huge flaw in the circuit board. They are failing between the 6 to 8 month mark.... simple google search will confirm this!!

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Honestly speaking, I don't use my Lyra that much so it's been fine for me. I'm sure if I used it more, it'd break down. The Hue Lamp though, that's been used daily for the past few years as it's connected to my Hue Sync Box. That has been solid (touch wood)

[@angelahopkins7357]

Yes. I like the hue system...I've got bulbs that I've had for about 6 years now. I think I'm going to give their lamp a shot

[@xx-mythril-xx]

I like your plant pots.. Could you tell me where you purchased them from please ?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

They're from Amazon. They're called "Kitzini Indoor Plants Artificial Plant Set"

[@BrandonBurk]

8:32 The ombré on the hue light looks to be better.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

It certainly does

[@Jsarson1976]

I have a few Govee lights and they have lasted already 3 years and I disagree that this Lyra will last only a few months. Govee are a decent brand and any device that doesn’t last they will replace. I think it might have just been a few that did this.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Makes sense. Probably a bad batch

[@Chrissage-Gaming]

They seem pretty decent but the quality competed to Philips hue is definitely lackluster, you can see and feel the difference with the materials and build quality. Can't argue with the budget price of the Govee stuff, I'd just rather pay a bit more for the premium product of the two.

[@mrx6666663]

Thank you sir

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

You're welcome Xavier

[@ladymarwa2539]

Hue gradient for me for being more warmer and not washed out.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

I agree. It gets more use from me as well

[@gokhan9395]

Great video but your sound recording is terrible. There is too much reflection in your sound recording.. it sounds like you are in a closet. Use a good mic. And not too close to any hard surfaces like your desk.. walls etc. And use sound absorbtion.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thank you. I agree, the audio is terrible. I messed up some settings in Audacity and after the upload it sounded worse. I sorted out the audio in my latest video and for future videos, the audio should hopefully be a lot better. Thanks for the constructive feedback nonetheless.

[@gokhan9395]

@@ManchesterTechGuy hi techguy.. sorry my comment was maybe too hard haha im sorry 😄 it was not the meaning.. But you can try also frequency cuttoff below 100hz and use compression. But love your channel and I appreciate your hard work and effort! Thanks for the reviews i am watching now another video, learning a lot 😊

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@gokhan9395 Don't worry, you weren't too hard at all, you were being honest and I appreciate that. Thank you for watching

[@youarealooser121]

Phillips obviously pay their app developers more $$$

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

I agree. It's a lot more polished

[@RobUnwraps]

Great video, nice thumbnail too!

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks Rob. Took a little while putting it all together, so it's really appreciated.

[@denodan]

I love my tech, but dont now buy into these expensive hardware, due to your locked into their systems, and get obsolete quick, example harmony remotes, Philps hue round hue become obsolete. Getting sick of spending this high prices to find in maybe 5 years or less become obsolete. This happens far less often with cheaper products

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

As a tech KZbinr I'll be upgrading consistently so the obsolescence aspect isn't as big of an issue for me.

[@denodan]

@Manchester Tech Guy another big issue is these expensive items, your locked into their eco system.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@denodan Yeah, that is a big issue I hope we can address at some point.

[@BrandonBurk]

Where is each lamp manufactured?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

I'm not entirely sure, but I'd guess in Asia for both, to save costs

[@marcovillanueva3841]

That Lyra looks like it is tilted and doesn’t stand straight up.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Hi Marco, there is a bit of a tilt to it, but the flooring in my house isn't completely flat, so that plays a little part. When you set up the lyra there's only a single screw to hold it in place and it's not super secure. As a result it has a bit of a wobble. If you're not going to be moving it, it's absolutely fine. Thanks for watching and commenting Marco!

[@honeybearcares]

Which app sends all your data (including health data) to China?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

I literally don't have a clue

[@honeybearcares]

@@ManchesterTechGuy Govee look at what permissions you gave it

[@roro_81]

Which one can dim the lowest?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

The Hue Gradient according to my eyes

[@r7usty483]

Excellent review comparison mate! Good job! Made making decision a whole lot easier! 👌

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks for the kind words and glad the video helped

[@AmbroseACE]

Very helpful video, amazing video as always. Keep up the good work 👊🏾

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Happy you liked it man, thank you!

[@ChristopherHsu]

Super detailed video. Good stuff.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks Christopher, appreciate it

[@bernvall]

I am unsure which to get. I could get the Philips Signe for EUR 269 and could get the Lyra through Amazon for EUR 198. Is the 70 euro jump difference worth it?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

What about through Govee's website? The Signe is definitely overpriced, but if you're heavily invested in the Hue ecosystem then it's a solid new addition. However, it doesn't have as many features as the Govee and it isn't really worth the price difference. In my testing the Hue App is better and the light is more responsive since it uses Zigbee and doesn't rely on WiFi. The Govee is brighter in certain situations and it is so much more customizable. One new thing I've noticed with the Govee is that the light fixture wobbles slightly. The build quality is really good, but not as good as the Signe. Do you have other Hue products at the minute or will this be your first? If it will be your first Hue product, then I would go for the Govee instead as you'd need a Hue Bridge and Hue Sync Box if you wanted to sync your light with your TV.

[@bernvall]

I do acrually have a Philips TV and even a philips Hue go but…. 1) this signe lamp is going in a completely different room (my study room) 2) I do not even have a hue bridge yet as never really needed it. I did check that this new Signe lamp does not need a hue bridge as can connect to Bluetooth though Secondly, govee website has Lyra sold out. The only reason why Amazon priced it at 198 was a 40 Euro shipping fee (damn). Hence my struggle to decide hmm.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

It's a tough decision, but since it's going in your study room, the Govee is the better option. You'll have loads of ways to customize the light to your preference. With the Signe, you only really benefit if you use it with a bunch of other Hue lights. I have the Signe as part of my Hue Sync setup and my Govee is like an accent light I can customize and move around if I want to. It'll eventually go into my Home Office, once I've sorted a few things out.

[@bernvall]

@@ManchesterTechGuy thanks for ur recommendations. It’s appreciated and well done for the vid :)

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@bernvall No worries Bernard, glad I could help. And thank you for the kind words.

[@houndpound4212]

Hi mate, good video I went with the Philips Gradient. Can I ask how do you select dynamic themes? I am using the Bluetooth app but can't find it.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks Hound Pound. I don't have the Bluetooth App setup, but can you create a room with the Signe Lamp in that room? Once that's done, you'll have an option to select from the dynamic scenes. If you click on the scene, you should see a play button. Press that and the scene will become dynamic

[@houndpound4212]

@@ManchesterTechGuy Thanks I have figured it out, disappointed that it appears to only have 1 single dynamic theme mode with all the scenes.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@houndpound4212 Yeah, that's where the Govee is better. The Hue software and app experience is a little better, but Customization wise it's lacking. I hope they bring out more dynamic scenes

[@arnovanwingerde8589]

@@ManchesterTechGuy Given how many Hue products you seem to have, I am surprised you still use the standard Hue App. If you have Apple iPhone/Pad a much better option with much better configuration is iConnectHue, I am sure there Android versions as well that let you set dynamic scenes and use all the segments, assign them to Dimmer switch presses etc.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@arnovanwingerde8589 Hi Arno, I have quite the mix of smart home products. I use Home Assistant mostly now and the App is an afterthought for me

[@benjiblanco2808]

Will the govee link with existing Philips hue via the Philips app?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

No, Govee is not compatible unfortunately

[@bootsythornton8541]

Very helpful thanks. What is an hdmi sync box? Will the hue not just react to the sound from my tv like the govee?

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Hi Kevin, the hdmi sync box syncs the colours on the TV with the lights, whereas the Govee just shows a random selection of colours, depending on the music mode you've chosen. I did a video on the hdmi sync box previously which you can check out for more info

[@veeforvendetta4126]

Decent review. Very indepth.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Thanks V Man, glad you liked the video. And thank you for the kind words. Appreciate you stopping by

[@veeforvendetta4126]

@@ManchesterTechGuy no probs. :-)

[@SubZeroGil]

Great review! You sold me on the Lyra.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

You're welcome

[@drippiemikk]

THANK YOU - I now know which one's to buy! You make me jealous of the quality on your content, couldn't manage it on my channel :(... subscribed!

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Hey drippiemikk, thank you for the kind words and for subscribing. Glad you enjoyed the video and glad it helped you make a decision. You can make content like this too, I'm sure.

[@nxtin4490]

do you need to replace the Lyras lights at one point

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Hi Nxtin, no, I haven't had to. It will last a long time

[@gregzy789_gaming4]

Philips hue is so overpriced.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Unfortunately, but my experience on the whole has been really good compared to other brands.

[@gabrieltheangel9150]

For me Goove is the Best

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Govee is definitely a really good competitor and is very affordable compared to Philips Hue.

[@denodan]

Both well over priced, the components are accually very cheap and can accually make them for a fraction of the price. Your paying for the name in both, far to expensive when there are others with as many features or more at half thd price go govee remote for the price is very poor

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Fair point Dennis. I think the software experience is part of it, but yeah, they are both very expensive. If there's a smart RGB lamp you can recommend, I can check it out

[@denodan]

@Manchester Tech Guy think 70% of the price your paying is the software. Trouble is that software after awhile becomes obsolete as phone and pc os systems change. Wereas say something like smart life app, which you can use may have a longer life, and if all fails, due to lack of functions on remote make it pretty useless.

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@denodan Yeah, that's a fair point honestly. My experience with Philips Hue, as expensive as it is, has been excellent in the 2+ years I've owned their lighting and that is a big reason why I can swallow the high prices. I've got LIFX, Govee and Smart Life products and the Hue Experience has been the smoothest out of all of them. This makes me kind of biased, but I do give other products a fair assessment. Any smart RGB lamps you think I should check out?

[@denodan]

@Manchester Tech Guy Philps hue as an example did make their system obsolete or the hub obsolete, the old round one they no longer support. That's the trouble with these expensive setups, same sa harmony universal remotes, dropped them, but at the moment they are supporting the software. Seems I was looming at cheaper corner lightbars, and on the one I am getting, if and when it becomes obsolete all colours and functions can still be accessed through the remote, and yes it's voice and software actived also, but if that support stopped, the remote is very good and can still get all colour options, etc

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

@@denodan Yeah, that's a good point and I agree. However, since I'm always upgrading my tech when new stuff comes out, it's less of a concern for me. If the current hub is made redundant I'm sure the new version will support the existing lights I have, but like you suggested, there's no guarantee.

[@eugeneatigua5688]

I don't understand your review. Speaking like you're talking to yourself. Bye!

[@ManchesterTechGuy]

Hey Eugene, sorry that it didn't help. I'm still learning. If there's something specific that you'd like to know, please ask and I'll try to help.