Government Informant Vs NonInformant With Larry Mazza & Frank DiMatteo Both Colombo Family Members

Today’s video is about two men that were in the mafia and had the option to choose to become a government informant or not and fight their case. Larry Mazza was a made man in the Colombo crime family that became a government informant. Frank Dimatteo was a Soldier in Joey Gallo’s crew and didn’t become an informant. Larry justifies why he became an informant and Frank gives his opinion on the situation. Frank explains why he fought his case and didn’t become an informant and Larry gives his opinion.
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[@MustangMike012]

You did a great job letting them speak. To many people interviewing guests think it’s about them. Not you. I just subscribed. This was an excellent interview.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you Mike I’m glad you enjoyed the show man 💯😃 I always do my best to let the guest speak because it’s about them!

[@dadarahimi2265]

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[@robertowilco7422]

Larry and Frank are both class acts . you allow your guests to talk which is a great technique

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank You Roberto 💯 that’s exactly what I wanted because by doing that they were able to bring up people and different topics that I didn’t even know about.

[@toter-drache]

@@investinyourselfpodcast, This was well put together as these type of videos go, have two guys on opposite sides of a topic sit with each other and give their personal perspectives. But as the other commenter said "allowing your guests to talk uninterrupted. Thanks for this video and i hope to see more like this here.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

@@toter-drache thank you for that man I’m so glad you enjoyed this segment 💯 it’s only best to let these two talk 😃 I got more shows coming for sure

[@dalewhite5152]

they are the real deal.old school..back when the world was REAL

[@rangers7259]

Superb video…. The Colombo Family is the most fascinating of the 5 families.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Yes they are!

[@RSR423]

That's because the Columbo family is the only one full of rats and we know all their business. Other families have kept things a bit quieter that's all.

[@dukedematteo1995]

Most dysfunctional. 3 mob civil wars. Almost got dissolved in the early 2000s. And at the moment is the weakest of all the families, and they are all pretty weak now except for the Genovese crew.

[@guardinoinc.7490]

You did a good job hosting these guys… lot of stories between them. Letting them talk was a good move.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you 🙏 I’m glad you enjoyed !

[@PatsiicK]

Franks one of my favorite mafia guys to listen to, Ty for the video

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

No problem I’m glad you enjoyed our show Frank is a nice guy 💯

[@HistoryToBeTold-Channel]

Larry testified against a corrupt FBI agent who worked for Scarpa (who had already died) He didn’t rat on his friends.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Right thank you for watching 💯

[@beardedfishingchats]

The concept in this interview and the way you handled it was excellent bro.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you my friend! I’m glad you enjoyed our show 😃😃

[@cap536]

Larry’s story needs to be a movie ASAP

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Right! He’s been working so hard to get something in going ‼️I believe one day he will 💯

[@cap536]

@@investinyourselfpodcast Tell him…Christian Bale should play him and Robbie DeNiro should play Greg Scarpa they would nail it 🔥🔥🔥

[@BostonsF1nest]

@@cap536 DeNiro as Scarpa? Uhh please no. Dude is so played out at this point and also doesn’t even look like him. HBO Max has actually been filming a new series about Scarpa. It’ll be coming out later this year.

[@cap536]

@@BostonsF1nest hey DeNiro can play anyone 😂😂

[@jamesmalcolm6976]

Both your guests are awesome. Good job

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you James 💯

[@AntVal1986]

Yo man I just wanted to say I really like your stuff and your whole vibe. You let your guests talk and u seem like a real cool guy.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks Ant I appreciate that man 💯‼️ I got plenty more shows on the way for you 💯

[@mattsweeny3957]

Adrian is a cool Hombre..Matt NYC

[@Geno1983]

Good idea and great interview

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks Geno glad you liked our segment 😃

[@THETRUTHSERUM613]

Nice job to get the real testimony from these two all stars. This video says more than all the rest combined. Great job. Historical gem.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you man I’m glad you enjoyed it 💯

[@Thechief1977]

Excellent show, well done on getting these two together

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you I’m glad you enjoyed it 💯

[@Prone-Ski_BX]

@18:01 did he say he sat with Frank Costello..!! Hahaha 🤣😂 yeah okay

[@techny1549]

Another Gem Champ 🏆 Mentioning Gems with these guys is great. Randazzos was the spot for the raw clams, Harbor View lmao well i wont go there 4 hour stay, Golden Gate another hotel. The list goes on and one thanks for the memories on this one needed this. A lot of memories were not all bad growing up in the Old Neighborhood. People from out of state really would not understand.

[@jamesbianco5655]

"Omerta my left fucking ball" haha, that was good😂

[@joevezza463]

Frank my family and myself come fromPresident Street,back in 60s. Moved to Howard Beach mid 70s.Ironic ,became close friends with Joes sister Carmela’s son Gary who unfortunately passed a few years back.Know the family for years.Good people.Frank,the real estate in that area is insane.Ferdinandos on union is still there ,went there when a kid ,vasteda,Manhattan special. Have a good year.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks Joe I’m glad you enjoyed the show. Thank you for sharing your history with Frank he is a gentlemen!

[@ameliadimatteo6714]

Do you know blast sister still alive jackie

[@dennisrobinson895]

I really enjoyed your show it was so Great that YOU let Frank and Larry talk. These are two Gentlemen. Thank you for such an interesting show.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you Dennis! I agree they are gentlemen. I did my best to let these two talk since it was about them 😃

[@rick_4760]

I love the Old school Brooklyn stories!!! Fantastic!!

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Same thanks for watching Rick 💯😃

[@BABYFACEBEASTIE]

Great interview. Both of them are great guests.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you man 💯😃

[@Pushups4breakfast]

Just subscribe, great job! You let them just talked which was excellent!

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you man! Right this show was about them not me 💯

[@KIRRAH1]

That's actually an interesting conversation and quite truthful

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

I thought so to! Thank you for watching 😁 Both these guys got some interesting stories to tell.

[@andrewaccardo5142]

Allie and carmine did not know about Greg, they just couldn’t admit that they were blind to it and didn’t know, they would never admit a mistake

[@dom4424]

Great interview need a part 2 very interesting guys💯🇮🇹

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you man I’m glad you enjoyed 😃😃

[@T4SelNiNO]

This was a great watch

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed our show 😃

[@christhecop4932]

Excellent interview

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you Chris I appreciate you watching man 😃💯

[@27MOJOKING]

Larrys thinking on becoming informant is normal, but the problem is he doesnt just get to rat on people who did him wrong. He has to rat on those who did nothing to him & detail all his crimes. Criminals being unloyal is nothing new

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks for commenting about this Tom.

[@greghill1106]

That's exactly it, you don't cherry pick on who you want to rat on.

[@krucial88]

He has too basically his boss was the biggest informant there was . Larry wasnt goiing to rat on anyone but once he found out about scarpa he basically was screwed. Also when you tell you have to tell you have to tell on everyone its just how it works otherwise they won't deal with you.

[@DAC666]

Yo Larry can you talk about heavy weight and persico loyalist TOMMY SHOTS GIOELI?

[@johnouillette2708]

These guys are absolutely right, everyone is a tough guy till they get slapped!! Then they do nothing

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks for watching 😁

[@susankennedy7280]

I don't blame you Larry I would have turned evidence to after finding out Greg was an informant all those years

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Sure is a rough life thanks for watching

[@CaptainJimmybrown99]

Who was Larry talking about in jail? “Buddy” was he talking about Barney bellomo?

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

I’m not sure he didn’t want to say

[@Vincent-j7m]

No official charge,no due process, RIPPED OFF in every which way, and locked up mental only if try to tell truth, THAT'S NOT A RAT THAT'S MUCH WORSE THEN RATTING

[@DAC666]

This is huge

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks Chris for watching man I’m glad you liked it 😃😃

[@petekingfish]

I could listen to Frank all day, what a great storyteller

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Your absolutely right thanks for watching!

[@stunnaman45]

Frank is a legend. Never ratted He has no immunity because he didn’t rat

[@JayyJay92]

Larry made it to become a made man participating in an active war killing multiple people. Frank was in the street but was never made and has never claimed to kill anyone. It’s like comparing amateur and professional. Frank had no info to inform. Larry’s boss the grim reaper was cooperating on him and his crew.

[@codylupul5608]

I wonder if "buddy" is sonny franzese

[@BIGGLOUPR]

Larry became a cooperator not an informant...there is a difference but at the end of the day...they've both told.....a Cooperator/Informant....I'm commenting in General here...not saying this about Frank Dimatteo💯

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks for watching bro 😎

[@BIGGLOUPR]

@@investinyourselfpodcast 🤜💥🤛💯

[@bdr113080]

When you actually know Larry’s story, I actually don’t blame him at all. For one, I was not there, and neither was anyone else that comments and calls these guys names, none of us were in that life, but he was put in a position where he found out That everyone down the totem pole and up the totem pole from him had already flipped. People he had went out of his way to defend, had already turned on him. At that point who is he staying loyalty to? There was an even anyone left at that point to even point the finger at him because they had already flipped

[@BrentMKunz]

Most guys just like hearing themselves call someone a 🐀 rat!

[@Jason.cbr1000rr]

It's Liberace!! 🤣

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks for watching Jason B 💯

[@garydunning9363]

I ain't saying Larry's reason's not the truth but almost every snitch I've heard say why is because there were getting betrayed? not 1 of them says they did it to push back on the sentence?

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

That’s right for the most part they are being betrayed

[@larrymazza3222]

For me and Jimmy, I was negotiating for between 17 and 24 years. I would have taken that. Remember, if I flip, I put my whole family and jimmy's whole family in jeopardy, as Greg Sr would kill everyone with my dna. He'd kill my pets and anyone that tries to help me. I would never do that to my family. But when it came out he was king of the informers, and the Persicos knew , it was a game changer to say the least. It was F@#$%CK this!!! And F@#$%^ck them. My own co-defendents were setting us up to for the fall. Not doing life for that!!!

[@tonymerlino217]

No pozazz where’s Sammy?

[@guardinoinc.7490]

I hope Frank hits the mobtube circuit doing more interviews

[@anthonydelgrosso4818]

I do understand Larry's point and I was never in that situation but the oath is about the entity not the individuals it's bigger then that

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks for watching Anthony 💯

[@rltservicesllc5907]

💯

[@AristotleSanchez1000]

Wasn't omerta something that used to permeate the whole Italian community as well as the mob guys themselves.When nobody said anything ,saw anything, heard anything ,or knew anything,if they were asked about it.And nobody was supposed to know who was a member and the whole thing was supposed to be a secret. Somewhere along the line that all fell apart.Seemed to be that way from about 1890s to 1960s

[@starstone33]

Bro how you getting both of these guys at the same time

[@starstone33]

Great stuff. Once again. Keep it up

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

@@starstone33 thank you man I’m glad you enjoyed it 😃 I was really surprised when I got them both man!

[@starstone33]

@@investinyourselfpodcast yeah bro. That's what an awesome matchup.. Both em Colombo then Genovese. Crazy..

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

@@starstone33 right! Not a lot of guys went to different families

[@ti3167]

You got to be able to see everyone’s motive, who is using who for what. True loyalty does exist but it’s few and far between, and I wouldn’t count on it, when the smoke clears it will be you and you only and that’s 100% reality no BS. Play it like this, NO ONE CARES ABOUT YOU

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

True 💯

[@matthewrider5906]

The Colombos really were red-headed stepchildren of the Five Families! Well, them AND the Bonannos. And on the flip... The Chin was the single most powerful wiseguy in America!💯

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

True!

[@kylejimmerson9985]

Dude I really like the books he wrote. Frank D

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Right!

[@wallacejoslyn4168]

Who was this guy's father frank

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Ricky something I can’t remember the last name I would assume the same as frank

[@61083dw]

frank is gerrisan beach guy wore a earing for years now its cool todo pod cast lolol come on

[@frankdimatteomobcandymagazine]

I also had long hair and a beard don't forget that lol

[@roberthendrix6521]

It's a personal decision some can live with it and some can't

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Right

[@krucial88]

Idk frank like that but lets be honest he was in the life before they were goving out basket numbers to ppl. also before rico and when the mob basically ran rhe county. Mazza fell into it unfortunately it was with greg scarpa who was basically a Fed himself. I bet he woulda been a stand-up guy if Greg never was who he was which is an informant.

[@Biggestkidyouknow]

Buddy is Barney

[@vincentscibana856]

I understand what your saying about bad mouthing a guy for ratting.i don't agree with guys like Sammy bull he makes a ton of $$.he did all those murders and makes money he should live a quiet life

[@doug7474]

Amazing content. Best I’ve seen and I sub to 20 channels. You let them talk. 🙌🏽

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you man that means so much to me 😃 your right this was about them not me

[@OCBeachLife]

I always have liked Larry. He seems like a good guy. Yes he turned informant, but with reason. Not like Sammy the Bull who didn't just turn on John Gotti, but 32-34 other people. Sammy went out of his way to rat on people. Larry only turned on those who turned on him. Call it what you will, I can respect that alot more then just snitching to snitch ! Now people make fake friends these days, just to have someone to throw to the lions of they need to. I have a very small circle of close friends, and those that don't probably never realize just how vulnerable they are until one of their friends gets in a jackpot, and starts talking. When you are on the street, it is always a constant battle for power, respect, money. If you really think about it, the best way to stay one up on your opponents is to have something that you can use against them. Call it what you want, but this has been a tactic used since the earliest of mankind originated. To thin this mindset doesn't exist in your circle or organization is to simply be naïve !

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

It’s best to stay away from the criminal life for sure 💯

[@larrymazza3222]

Thanks for that realistic and reasonable comment, Larry M!!

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

@@larrymazza3222 hey hope you been good larry 😃

[@Thebeat139]

I don’t believe Larry.Carmine done too much time to know about Greg. What gain he got knowing about Greg not like it kept him out jail

[@kennethbubser9601]

Frank you have nothing to prove to key board gangsters. Also assume everyone a cooperator now a days. Larry thank god you got out alive. Thanks fellas for the content.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks for watching our show Kenneth 💯 I’m glad you enjoyed it man 😃

[@ivanicabratulic9297]

Frank dimatteo a legend

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Sure is thanks for watching 💯💯

[@southie3177]

Mazza was definitely in a unique situation🤷‍♂️.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Yes he truly was!

[@AristotleSanchez1000]

Mazza's story seems like right from the start,Scarpa and his wife schemed together and targeted him and ensnared him.

[@vincentscibana856]

I enjoyed this one intakes me like Mazza a little more I always liked frank

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you so much I’m glad you enjoyed the show 💯😃

[@andrewashcraft-hi4ot]

The way I look at that life is I can't say to much I have never been a Mon guy but I have been snitched on for growing pot and the cops tried to get me to turn and I said no way But I can't hate on someone that was screwed over by the guys that can and would have killed them for snitching so what I'm getting at is people should not throw stones until they know the whole story of why some of these guys did what they did but then there's also some guys that snitched that does deserve a beating anyway my point is don't judge somebody until you've walked a mile in their shoes

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

True never judge. Everyone’s story is different. Thank you for watching 😁

[@chrisny15]

It seems that peoppe who cooperate have a complex about it so they constantly try to justify it by brining up examples of other people who cooperate, especially to a higher degree, because they think the comparison will make them look better. It doesn’t. At the end of the day if you did a crime with consequences and you gave up information about other people in order to weasel out of those consequences you are a rat. If you do a crime why shouldn’t you do the time? It’s your decisions and actions. Unless you are being forced to do something or are framed you should never implicate anybody else. If you can’t handle it you shouldn’t be committing crimes. It doesn’t matter that other people cooperated. It doesn’t justify you cooperating. Also talking tough to people who make comments doesn’t make reality go away. How does beating someone up change what you did? And you say those people couldn’t face the time. Well that’s why they don’t commit crimes in the first place. You consciously commit crimes and then weasel yourself out. Think about it

[@frankdimatteomobcandymagazine]

You are right but there are different reasons why guys do things and to fall back to their morals ain't happening when you do there's thing you don't believe it's wrong no it's not right to bring down someone else but you don't think that way you just think about getting fucked and doing life in prison you must be in the position to make that call not just think about right or wrong that's to easy from my deck smoking a cigar it was a bad life all around

[@chrisny15]

Frank I respect you and I can’t imagine what that must feel like to be in that position. My point is if you’re involved in that life you should know the possible consequences. Life in prison is one of them. If you don’t want to do life in prison why be involved in murders and other violent crimes. Those are decisions you make in life. I can’t speak of it because I was never involved in that. But to me if you’re involved you have to stand up. If you get caught that’s part of the deal. I don’t see how someone can try to reduce their sentence which they deserve and give up anyone else. What did that other person do to deserve being ratted on?

[@chrisny15]

By the way my family is from President street too. Small world. My aunt passed away a few years ago she was still living down there. Neighborhood changed a lot!

[@frankdimatteomobcandymagazine]

@@chrisny15 you do know and most guys take the pinch but when the boss or your skipper go bad it ripps your heart out and wakes you up it's just bad life

[@frankdimatteomobcandymagazine]

You know big gigs

[@vincentrotondo2531]

Larry. That's fn gospel.

[@alivstyson1864]

what a way to live. No Thanks

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thanks for watching 💯😃

[@Uncleharley77]

I dunno next to Larry this guy dont seem so authentic anymore certain things he sed make me think he was never part of anything.

[@jimmyvalentine798]

Frankie is the real deal. I like Frank a lot. Wish him all the best.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Same here! He is one of my favorite dudes I got to interview 😃 thanks for watching.

[@jimmymcgill8412]

Might as well just say Barney…everyone knows.

[@larrymazza3222]

why would you say that? Barney, EVERYONE know's. EVERYONE? My grandmother doesn't know, my aunt mabel doesn't know...lol. But you could be considred an informant now by saying that!!!

[@TheCaptainSlappy]

JoeJoe (Monte) sent me to learn up.

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Sweet

[@ChicagoMuscle-gn1ni]

I THINK IF GREG WASNT BAD...LARRY WOULDNT OF TURNED..I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF HE MEANT GOTTI SR OR JR BY HE WASNT NO ROLE MODEL?? Sr took his time like a man..and Jr did the best legal distraction of the century while giving them noone...not 1 person took time for what JR gave...not saying it waa right but cant say 1 person did time bc JR

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Your probably right on that! Larry has got a lot of insane stories about Greg. Thank you for watching I do appreciate it man 😃

[@pab1381]

Half the people you find in the comments, bc there’s always a couple of them, who talk shit about these guys ratting would rat for a lot less. Theyd rat to get out of a shop lifting charge. I sorta understand why some do it for instance they do it bc the boss or someone else is going to lay that case at the persons feet even though they were just following orders in the first place. However the ones I can’t stand are the ones who rat bc they feel like it. I used to like him but not anymore, however Red Wimette followed that path. Decided to flip just bc he wanted to and wanted to get Outfit guys off the street. He acts like he’s the foremost authority on Chicago outfit. Plus he always talked shit about Frank Cullotta when Frank was alive. More than once. But now that he’s dead Red snuck his way onto Franks old channel cuz his own channel was getting barely any views. I don’t like that.

[@anthonydelgrosso4818]

I would love to know who all new about scarpa cause if u ask me who ever new is almost as bad as greg

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

True there is probably quite a few more

[@thepistolguy859]

The persicos knew but what was they gonna do wack there best guy that won them the war?

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

@@thepistolguy859 damn I’m sure a lot more of the guys know about it to

[@larrymazza3222]

many knew, and many more live the same way Greg did. They have FBI friends. I was too naive to get one in my pocket!!!

[@justinvann557]

There’s a lot of misuse of the word “informant”… an informant is someone working secretly with law enforcement and providing information about the people around him/her. Someone like Mazza, was a witness for the government and agreed to testify about crimes he was involved in and provide testimony about the other people involved. This is usually done in conjunction with a plea agreement and to avoid long or life prison sentences. Your title should say “Government Witness”… shows you don’t have a clue and I can skip your video.

[@letsgomets002]

The worst host on the internet, where are your questions ??? ... you're not controlling the interview!!! Watch how Michael Franzeese does it ....!!!!!

[@zerozerozero_0]

I think you are horribly wrong. This was perfect, he left all the room for these guys to talk freely together. If you want questions answered; watch djvlad

[@anthonydelgrosso4818]

I like larry but this episode was a lay up,come on u guys new how frank felt about his cooperation before the episode.a little push back would make great content that's what everyone wants to see ya know a little devils advocate would be fire someone respectfully though

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you Anthony 💯

[@larrymazza3222]

well, he may not truly feel like you do. he lived it and see's the realities.

[@GrahamNessPasyer]

You guys just talk over each other. PITIFUL!!

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Thank you for watching 💯

[@GrahamNessPasyer]

@@investinyourselfpodcast not you. The other two. SMH

[@greghill1106]

These guys crack me up trying to portray the mob as some prep school,lol. You could follow all the rules and still get whacked cause someone wanted your book. I know who they are but maybe some introduction for those that don't would be helpful. I've heard people say that Larry was barely an associate

[@rltservicesllc5907]

Frankie has no clue what he talking about seems like a nice guy but he is double talking he makes no sense seems like he just trying to jump on the band wagon of this genre and he talking and incriminating himself about stuff he did that he could go away for the rest of life. His mouth is like direa.

[@ameliadimatteo6714]

You have a lot to say Like to hear what s...t comes out of your mouth you know so much

[@goodtimestv9690]

Please Try to get Anthony Ramandi ! He also has a story and I actually believe him a lot of people call him fake but he said his cousin’s name was McIntosh I heard these people mention that name in this interview and also all three of them have the Colombo connection They sound like they have similar stories I actually believe Anthony I don’t care if you think I’m crazy or not I have no reason not to believe him he kept the story the same every interview I seen him do Good show!👏👏👏

[@investinyourselfpodcast]

Right I actually have had him on check it out 😃 kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHKpYoSCeJatiqs

[@goodtimestv9690]

@@investinyourselfpodcast I will thank you

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😂🤡

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