GOVMENT sets the record straight on EV FACTS.

The GOVMENT have spoken! This is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about EVs. Well, it's one truth... And thou shalt speak no ill of the new document. Let's dive into this one then...
SOURCE:
From the Office for Zero Emission Vehicles
Guidance
Electric vehicles: costs, charging and infrastructure
Published 5 February 2024
www.gov.uk/government/publica...

[@Bobjlow]

When you’re charging while you sleep, the govment recommends sleeping on your side so you can keep one ear open for the smoke detector.

[@johnsaxelby]

Ace

[@Julia-xz7vb]

keep your running shoes and clothes on ready to make a fast exit

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

And buy some fire brigade approved breathing apparatus.

[@garyburchgb]

Also sleep with your eyes open.

[@pninnabokov3734]

Better sleep on your back to keep both ears open.😆

[@ashwayn]

When did we last trust the government?

[@liquidusblue]

Their lips are moving...

[@sergeantmajorzero7482]

Yeah, and your 'medical intervention' is working fine

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

Well, around 60% of the UK took the experimental mRNA gene therapy injections when told, for a cold with an infection fatality rate of around 0.0037% in the average 50 year old, lower for younger people, so quite recently 🤷🤦

[@jameschambers6975]

The Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation Event 201 staged in late 2019 recommended flooding the media using only trusted voices to persuade the masses to follow their rhetoric. Big mistake: the masses instictively know that all governments lie every time they speak oherwise they wouldn't get into office.

[@user-fr1xb9jl8u]

A lot of people during covid would you believe!!

[@blogg9922]

Anybody who does not live under a rock has already made their mind up about EV's Not forgetting Net Zero, Heat Pumps, Great Reset, WEF and of course the whole Climate Crisis BS

[@wearetheremnants1615]

Air source heat pumps another expensive scam

[@hudsonbear5038]

@@wearetheremnants1615 once the Temp drops below -5 to -10 it cost more as much as 5x the cost to run one than during normal temps.. but they ignore that fact and push them...

[@jamesan2517]

@@hudsonbear5038 You forgot to mention that other bunch of W@Rs in Brussels.

[@blogg9922]

@@hudsonbear5038In laws have one. Keep telling me how great it is Yes they have a highly insulated house with underfloor heating, solar panels etc But it has a lot if glass, effectively a glass box with doors. Further enquiries reveal its only "cheap" because he has now has a total of 24kWh of batteries installed which during winter get charged up at night on a cheap rate and run the HP during day Cost of batteries? "Not sure" Life of batteries? "Ummmm..." He is a highly educated Greenwallah who is slightly autistic He has an EV which my SiL describes as "utterly shit" but he claims that's because she does not use it properly Also claims to be on his 6th Covid booster and takes every single flu jab pushed at him

[@hudsonbear5038]

@@blogg9922 Ooooooooooooooh they really drank the cool aid...now beyond help sadly...LOL

[@BillyNoMates1974]

Governments talking bollox as per usual

[@bentullett6068]

Nothing new there then

[@ahorton6786]

Spot on, absolute bullshit greenwashing 🐂💩

[@patrickcannell2258]

New World Order the lot of them. They are control freaks and communist. The lot!

[@melvinplant8637]

DO EV OWNERS ONLY GET RID OF EV,WHEN BATTERY IS ON THE WAY OUT THEN DEALERS EXPECT JOE PUBLIC TO BUY ONE ,YEAH ,RIGHT.

[@sergeantmajorzero7482]

So why did the Scottish Police adopt EVs and then abandon them in favor of ICE?

[@fungames24]

They couldn't keep up with the criminals who didn't have to stop in the middle of a chase to charge up.

[@6chhelipilot]

Because the SNP are woke AF.

[@user-yt2vd9gz8y]

They had to wait hours to get charged up

[@rosen9425]

Towing a mobile generator decreases the range even more and has to be done at lower legal speeds 😂

[@LilaKuhJunge]

They couldn't press charges?

[@David-tt2mt]

Maybe we can have an office for net Zero gov interference.

[@liquidusblue]

Wishful thinking. Best government are those that are never ever seen. I.e. get out of everybody's lives.

[@MrFryfish]

completely agree! to balance an inept concept.

[@philiplindley7384]

I find it hard to believe I'm living in this moment of human stupidity, I did see it coming some 35 years ago but had no idea it would come about in my own lifetime.

[@lawreence13]

This is not about stupidity its about a war against western society and the masses

[@frizzlefry5904]

me too !

[@memorialgardens1664]

🤝

[@user-il6jm9mi4z]

Welcome to the 21st century-can't make it up!!! Strange world 🌎

[@niceboy60]

Fact Checker : Is there loads of Chargers 🤔🤨 " Yes" does all this Chargers actually Work & have decent charging Speeds 🤔 " Don't Change Subject 😡😤🤬"

[@clovermark39]

The less electronics of any kind I have the better.

[@fredfred2363]

Agreed. AND I design electronics stuff...

[@mosthighoverall6241]

Touch controls are literally dangerous.

[@rbnhd1144]

I work on new cars, I'm tired of all the dam Electronics and especially Tablets, they are driver distractions and should be banned. Tablets are expensive to replace and don't last that long.

[@hudsonbear5038]

@@rbnhd1144 Makes me laugh, you can't touch a SatNav or use your phone in a car as its against the law but that lovely distracting Tablet is legal!!!!

[@chasleask8533]

The weak point of any item . (Apart from the battery , that is )

[@bobrad20]

Ronald Reagan..The 9 most frightening words you'll ever hear, "I'm from the government and I'm here to help."

[@cestmoi1262]

If you purchased a new EV at 40% more than an ICE but a few years later the cost of an EV to an ICE is equal than the original owner lost 40% of the original EV price. Only the government is stupid enough to think that that is ok. What malarky!

[@salnaturile8653]

Yes these stats don't take account of depreciation, they've conveniently glossed over that bit!! EV residuals are that good a lot of traders won't even touch them lol

[@SolAce-nw2hf]

The message is: If you really want an EV, just wait for the sucker who buys a brand new car every 4 years and never goes anywhere.

[@LilaKuhJunge]

You could say the same for buying a Merc /8 280E over a Merc /8 200. Both the same basic car, so why would you pay 2x the price just to to get a car that costs more to run and has less range?

[@phils4634]

The government received the sales tax income. That's all that really matters. The fact that those who bought them are at a financial disadvantage is, for them, an irrelevance.

[@dennism7813]

Thinking the government is going to convince anybody today is like thinking anyone is fooled by the BBC 😂

[@MrBlazeyb]

As a HGV driver it makes me laugh to think of trucks going electric. My truck does around 400 miles on a tankful, which takes about 4 mins to fill (the pumps for trucks deliver fuel at a massive rate of knots), my truck works between 10-14hrs per day and the engine only gets turned off for 45 mins when I’m on my break. When I get to my jobs, the engine then turns the PTO to operate the crane. When I park up on a night I spend the night in it running the night heater which takes diesel straight from the tank. Unfortunately when a truck is stood (maybe mechanical) this costs money. If my company said to me you’ve got a new electric truck, oh but by the way, when you charge it twice or three times a day, you won’t get paid for that just the hours the wheels are turning. That’s the end of it. Who’d want a job doing a 14hr day but getting paid for 10.

[@alanmon2690]

obviously, what you do is have 5 trucks and one trailer, parking them around at convenient distances, eg 100 miles apart, on your route. They are attached to charging points. You drive to the your destination, connecting your trailer to a new truck (tractor) as necessary, and continuing . These additional trucks could be shared with other drivers and companies. See, simples. And I'm sure the Net Zero department will happily use taxpayers' money to subsidise this pool of spare trucks.....😁 Oh, this could be extended to spare cars scattered about, drive your current vehicle, swap to a charged up car and carry on- --like those succesfull rent-a-scooter or Boris's Bikes.

[@garyburchgb]

Don't some government members do a 10 hour day but get paid for 14?

[@johnharris199]

You are wrong!!! If you do 400 miles a day with a 45 minute break, that could be easily achieved with a fully charged EV truck. 45 minutes charging at a fast charger would charge up to 80% of full. You are a legend though, if you can drive for 4-5 hours without a toilet break you must have a bladder of an elephant LOL. Think realistically pal, if you charge every time you stop could you do 400 miles on a full charge? Or would it be inconvenient for you having to plan your journey. Don't forget, most of your travel time would reduce due to the reduced lose of speed on inclines!!! Clearly you have dismissed the benefits without looking at the full picture. Answer me this, can any of the fuel be reused? Can you use multiple types of energy to power your truck? 80% of batteries can be recycled (fact). EV's can be charged using fossil fuel generators or renewable energy, you can even buy a portable power unit and solar panels that can charge it.

[@robertkubrick3738]

@@johnharris199 How DO You reuse expended electricity? I wonder if you are really as stupid as your post sounds? How many times do you reuse the same electricity?

[@DigiDriftZone]

​@@johnharris199 Erm, 15-80% charge, show me an EV truck, hell van, hell car that will do more than 140 miles in winter with the heating on, on the motorway... if you can't drive for 2 hours without stopping to use the loo... for 45 minutes, you better see your doctor mate...

[@kevinpotts-to5nm]

My brother paid £22,000 cash last may for a 22 reg Hyundai ionic, he now wants it gone, he was offered £15,000 in november by the same rip off dealer, [MOTOR POINT UK], he`s driven it just over 1,000 miles. I have a 18 yr old honda crv diesel with 175,000 miles i paid £500 for and i`m keeping it.

[@outspokenwitness8744]

He should take that offer as it will only get worse the longer he keeps it.

[@darrenwheeler3427]

It’s not the dealers fault that’s just the market price assisted by chaps like the one in the video you just watched.

[@Beaver680]

My 18 year old crv has 212,000 miles and I’m keeping it too!

[@ImLivinSD]

@@outspokenwitness8744 Agreed best to unload while you can.

[@iangriffith6000]

The government recommended that I bought a diesel a few years ago. Then I became public enemy no 1 almost overnight, so much for their good advice.

[@roblloyd1879]

I wouldn't trust the government or lords to tell me the time of day.

[@bsimpson6204]

As I write this, 75% of our electricity is from fossil fuel (because… no wind), how can EV's be called ZERO EMISSIONS,

[@marumaru6084]

on average if you dont count building them they are about 10% better for the environment! If you count building well they just fail!

[@clovermark39]

Yeh don’t count all, the parts they have to have and mined for. They are so bad for the environment.

[@jameselliott8203]

Fossil fueled cars !

[@marumaru6084]

@@jameselliott8203 Nor do they deliberately not count any of the environmental damage caused by switching over i.e. the infrastructure!

[@dcasteaux9181]

Shhhhhhh! 🤫

[@patg4362]

Never going to buy an EVil vehicle 😂

[@cloudbasenirvana]

Or an EV motorcycle. Imagine riding one with a Lithium Time Bomb between your legs knowing at any second if it explodes it will remove your legs, you testies and your willy.

[@Dalbayob69]

Geoff, have you heard of your mate Sadiq’s new plan? Paris doubled or tripled parking charges for EV’s due to increased weight. Sadiq said with a big smile on his face that he doesn’t mind stealing great ideas. So Londoners are getting further shafted. Thank god I live 200miles away from that 💩 hole and have no need to go there whatsoever.

[@johnholmes5674]

You are so lucky. The 💩Islamist caused me to get rid of a perfectly serviceable 2006 diesel Astra without as much as a rust scab on it.

[@derekcable]

​@@johnholmes5674A family member had to get shot of a perfectly serviceable family 5 door 09 plate diesel Audi A3 with 100k from new due to the further expansion of the ULEZ. 🤬

[@RichardASK]

I expect Citizen Khan will keep getting voted in by all the morons, who have never learnt to drive or still vote for him even though they have been priced off the road. So glad I live in Worcestershire and well away from the sh1tpit of London..@@derekcable

[@tatsnneeps341]

My 1998 fiesta 1.25l zetec is still going strong at under 42k miles, flies through its mot every year with nothing more than 1 or 2 advisories which are remedied within 1 week 👍

[@user-xg9qz5dr5v]

Im sick of the government maggott lies and then told that we have to believe thier lies because it is the truth.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

I no longer comply.

[@johnholmes5674]

Lessons will always be learnt

[@terrigoddard3448]

Ho, come on Geoff The good people of this country know that our Government, never would lie to us.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Only when their lips move.

[@jno5]

So in English they are saying:- 1, They depreciate Quicker than an ICE car & Tax payers are subsidising company cars owner to have EV. 2, We don’t tell you who or how many people we’ve asked 3, We don’t tell you real world range 4, Don’t charge at public charging points 5, Get Hybrid and never charge 6, If you’re in a rush you are screwed 7, Own it for 10yrs+ and do above average miles a year and it might break even, but only if you charge with solar. 8, They haven’t been around long enough to really know so we’ll look on the positives side 9, See above 10, They burn badly when they do 11, No chance 12, No one really wants them if everything was equal 13, They are bloody heavy 14, Hold on, something better might be coming

[@Hell-Hound1]

You'll always have the bus.

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

​​@@Hell-Hound1lol, we have had 3 electric buses doing the thermal runaway fireworks display in London, in just 2 weeks, they are trying to cremate people on them too🤣🤣🤣

[@Tazz-Media]

Getting inventive - Mobile cremation services - Who'd have thought it! @@theclotshotdidit3115

[@jno5]

@@Hell-Hound1 - Since I’m in a wheelchair then buses, trains and public transport are all nearly impossible; as for bikes or walking they are impossible. So maybe Warwickshire county councillors are the start of a new revolution against people like me…

[@ghost307]

@@jno5 In general, the government is of the opinion that anyone in a wheelchair should either drive themselves or just sit at home.

[@Garffey]

I feel so much better knowing 'the Government' has all the facts!......NOT! 😂😂

[@liquidusblue]

Like they did with COVID, until they made up new ones.

[@Garffey]

@@liquidusblue Yes that too!...lol

[@HappyBagger]

They have the facts. The real ones, But they don't admit them, and push the reverse (Just like the guvmint didn't get jabbed, they also don't own EVs.)

[@Garffey]

@@HappyBagger yep, do as I say...not as I do! 😣

[@angusnz7910]

We will be your one and only source of truth…now where have I heard this before. Ah that’s right, our she-man X PM Jacinda

[@Stayrusty]

You are nailing these monologues dude :) I am addicted.

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Thanks so much!😊

[@bedazzled621]

My neighbour changed back to a petrol driven car. He had is EV about 18 months and got fed up with trying to get a charging point installed. The final straw came when they informed him that they would have to dig up next door's driveway. A problem with older properties that share a single service electricity cable apparently.

[@andygozzo72]

exactly,..and many houses only have a fairly low current capable 'incomer' so theres no spare capacity for a high power device like an EV charger

[@15bit62]

Someone told my dad the same, but i really don't understand it. I charge my EV at 3kW, which is less power than you draw running a kettle and a washing machine. Your trip switch doesn't click off when you turn on the kettle and washing machine, so why should it be impossible to charge a car off the same ring circuit? Shitty home electrics i can totally understand being limiting, but the main supply must be able to supply that kind of sustained current.

[@noelward8047]

@@15bit62The delusion is strong in this one Haha

[@fredfred2363]

Most home EV chargers run at 7kW. Ideally on a 6mm copper cooker circuit cable, direct from the fuse box (consumer unit). Using a 32A circuit breaker. So if you can rig up a standard leccy cooker, you're good to go. But you need to be able to park right outside your house. No good to us flat occupiers.

[@andygozzo72]

@@fredfred2363 or those in terraced rows with non reserved parking, as for the 7kw, thats over double 13amp, say 28 as a rough guesstimate, thats nearly half our incomer capacity in one go, many houses where i live, a small to medium village, especially ones similar age, will be similar, many have overnight electric heating, immersion heaters, etc. and if someone decides to get up an put a kettle on, , could easily exceed that current rating,

[@jeremyturner2301]

We need an 'office for naturally aspirated V8s'

[@rbnhd1144]

Worked on a tesla Y today, drove it less than half a mile and lost 4 miles of range, I saw it with my own eyes, Predicted Range is purely wishful thinking.

[@johnharris199]

So why is that any different from ICE vehicle? I had a 2009 Ford focus diesel which had a minimum mileage when I fueled up and hit the motorway of 400+ miles was. After driving 125 miles on the motorway, then driving 2 miles in a city, my mileage remaining was 200 miles. Every vehicle is less efficient when driving in suburban area's. Stopping and starting at traffic lights, 20mph limits ect all cause power source efficiency reduction. NO EMISSIONS COME FROM EV'S! ICE vehicles poison our air! Losing a few miles is a minor inconvenience compared to the benefits of zero emissions in populated area's. EV's, solar, wind, hydro and battery storage are not perfect but they are the lesser of two evils. Once fossil fuels are used they are gone forever, solar panels, wind generators, hydro generators and battery materials have a % that can be recycled.

[@rbnhd1144]

@@johnharris199 Say what you want, EV's have a massive emissions cost when they are made, you either believe that or you don't, One things for sure an ICE car will outlast an EV, just you wait n see. Cars that have a 10 year lifespan are simply wasting lots of the worlds resources, that's how I see it.Id love to know what your driving now and what country you live in.

[@rbnhd1144]

@@johnharris199 Did your diesel Focus actually have a gauge telling you the Range?

[@johnharris199]

@@rbnhd1144 YES.

[@johnharris199]

@@rbnhd1144 UK. I drive a Y reg (2000) rover 25, 140k miles, had head gasket rebuilt, radiator replaced and lots of other work done, most fixed by myself. EV is a distant dream for most people, the facts are ICE vehicles have advanced as much as they can yet manufacturers still deceive us about emissions by fitting cheat devices. Not to mention the emissions created by the extraction, refining and transportation of fuel, which FYI is never included when calculating the lifetime footprint of an ICE vehicle. Battery tech is in its infancy and recycling and reusabilty of the materials is increasing every day. Once fossil fuels are used they are gone forever, batteries can be reused, ICE vehicles have one fuel, EV'S can be charged by fossil fuel generators, solar, wind, hydro and nuclear power generators. People say charging your car at home is using fossil fuels, in the UK 34% of grid generation is gas, less than 2% is coal and approximately 8% is nuclear. The rest is renewable 40% is wind.

[@johnmoncrieff3034]

I ran an AUDI 100 for 6 years that cost me £400. It did 39.8 mpg (petrol) including on the motorway at the < speed limit. When I finally parted with it I sold it for £300. It had 80K on the milometer when I bought it and 165K when sold. Other than one set of tires and servicing consumables It cost me virtually nothing. The insurance was very cheep considering the make and model, a new Ford Focus was almost twice the price! Even towing a fully loaded trailer did not make any difference to the mpg. There is no way any EV could come close to that economy! or reliability!

[@newbeginnings8566]

I had a 1985 Audi 100CD saloon ( petrol/manual)... Back in the day.. I have fond memories of this vehicle.. it wasn't expensive to run.. I would have bought the 200 turbo or the 200 Quattro if I had the money...

[@64hawki]

Don't want an incendiary device parked in my garage thank you 😮

[@jjrider6758]

'The only place you need to go for information is the government'.. the UK government deploying a direct quote from the Jacinda Ardern Cov*d playbook..

[@ceismulcastle]

they only reason evs are getting closer to ice prices is because the manufacturers are slashing ev prices because no one is buying them 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@chrislucy3778]

When I first heard Klaus talk about. IOT future with cars no older than 5yrs ‘to make roads safer’ - I chuckled then. No way they are replacing my trusty old Merc. 😂

[@johnholmes5674]

Roads would safer over night if they simply banned the 3rd world imports from driving

[@steveharmon6440]

Chuckle now... They are going to ban yr car soon enough. Gov Arrogance and stupidity should be a crime but if Brits don't start demanding NO!

[@andrewsundell2502]

What does an EV owner and a person with diarrhea have in common? They both hope to get home before it runs out!

[@stevezodiac491]

sorry, I couldn't resist it ' diarrhoea ' .

[@evelyngott2056]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@davidrobert2007]

Did you know that diarrhoea is hereditary? It runs in your genes (jeans).

[@S0_Rhyn]

​@@stevezodiac491did you get home in time ? 😂😂😂

[@charleslouden6600]

Cool

[@knockschool]

The goverment wouldn't lie and that thing we took was safe and effective, Rishi said so. ?

[@theclotshotdidit3115]

He's only saying safe now. Even the people who got several won't believe the effective lie after catching it several times, soon they will realise it's not safe either

[@Tazz-Media]

NO, Rishi just recently said it was Safe - he'd never lie to us, would he 😛

[@cloudbasenirvana]

@@theclotshotdidit3115 - So very, very, very many can say fa now as they are 6 feet under and as the years pass there will be fewer and fewer - Oh but they have now abolished / re-written excess departures so nothing to see here.

[@cs-su9ko]

just imagine how the country would flourish if the goverment kept there nose out

[@markperry5975]

One thing for certain, they'll tax ICE cars off the road. 😟

[@HappyBagger]

I'm not convinced of this, as it will push up inflation and interest rates.

[@motleydude73]

Just refuse to pay it. Good luck to them trying to get 1.3 billion people to stop driving 😂

[@Subjectno23]

Imagine the revenue of fining 1.3 billion people for driving without tax?? Then there will be the political shaming campaign they will use against no payers to divide the population further. They want inflation to skyrocket, it makes us poorer, meanwhile they position themselves and their cronies to benefit from all their crazy legislation and policies they make us adopt. I feel so down about the future on so many levels, which of course is what they want.

[@klnine]

All politicians should be mandated to use Ev's

[@kjjkbuh9896]

Hi mate. Electric HGV batteries are about 7 ton's in weight. That means it has to carry 7 tons less payload so another HGV to transport that. It makes so much sense to a government weable.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Govern-ment = Control-mind.

[@geoffhodgson2201]

When have politicians ever told the truth

[@trevorb5978]

Never believe anything until it's been officially denied.

[@barriewilliams4526]

And, people are going to believe the government🤔..................................................🤣

[@paulgibson490]

I've said it before the government don't want electric vehicles just no vehicles for normal private individuals. The rich will fly helicopters between there homes and there private jets ask Rishi that's what he does. Everyone else will make do with 3rd class public transport and don't try to go abroad. I'm glad I'm now almost a coffin dodger, well I suppose I am.

[@hunchanchoc8418]

And they're already eliminating new young drivers by charging them at least £3,000 a year just for insurance.

[@simonellis842]

"If freedom of speech means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they don't want to hear." George Orwell

[@pninnabokov3734]

Stop us from going places. Human immobility. Added to invisibility. Period. Thank you. 💝

[@leswatson8563]

Oh yes we must stop all the misinformation coming out on EVs. They don't catch fire, run out of electricity, they all do the mileage as advertised and are cheeper to run and repair than other forms of private vehicles???

[@toiletrollholder]

Isn't an EV that's left charging overnight a HUGE fire risk 🤔🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@michaelhole4894]

Loved that bit about being able to travel from Leeds to Exeter in an electric car, I travel from Leeds to Launceston to visit my mother, 43 miles further than the electrics can go. 😂🤣😂

[@jameschambers6975]

Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Matthew 7:15

[@robertn1620]

Have you seen the 2 Hyundai cases in Canada where the battery cost was 64000 Canadian dollars when the car from new was 55000 Canadian dollars?

[@15bit62]

As a pro-EV person i really wish the UK government would say nothing on this topic. Everything they say is such total bull***t that saying anything on the topic can only make things worse...

[@rbnhd1144]

Best piece of Government PR ever, putting a spin on everything, they should be in the advertising business. I don't know how they sleep at night.

[@blueband8114]

Our EV claimed 227mile range, in reality it was around 150/ 160. We only had it 5 months or so. Thank god the manufacturer took it back, due to numerous faults. The range, not being one of them. We wouldnt have another, until we literally had no choice.

[@stevezodiac491]

same here, still have one but after 7 3/4 years and only 39 k miles it has lost 33 % battery capacity and range, which was rubbish when new anyway. Never again, ever. I would rather sh1t in my hands and clap.

[@Yorkshireasaurus]

🤥

[@hunchanchoc8418]

@@stevezodiac491 Out of interest, what model, Steve?

[@stevezodiac491]

​​@hunchanchoc8418 Nissan Leaf Teckna, 30 kwhr 6.6 charger in Arctic White manufactured ar Sunderland in 2016. It's not just older EV's with ambient cooling either. Battery life channel's id3 had lost 10% in 2 years. That has a more modern battery chemistry and liquid cooling. i-pace's etc there are loads of examples. In fact all lithium ion batteries degrade with time and use cycles, to different degrees, whereas obviously ice cars don't.

[@MikeG-rh1lk]

From what I have seen with EVs on different channels is they can only do close to their “range” if you stay at low speed if your at national speed limit it hits your range like it did to Geoff in the Tesla when he lost 100 miles, a government official should go try charge an electric car while towing a caravan

[@clivelockwood3236]

I wonder where the government get there EV info lol sounds like there trying to polish a turd.

[@craigcharlesworth629]

The alternate fuels argument is a red herring, if you take in to account the systematic destruction of the farming industry by the EU and GOVMENT.

[@twinsliz]

Definitely quieter until catches fire then it sounds fireworks 🧨

[@michaelmckeary1165]

Totally agree Geoff. Why would Ford discontinue the Fiesta, makes no sense. A lot of things don't make sense now in Councils and in Government, just the way of the world.

[@suttonelms1]

Best car they make - excellent value.

[@garyrothwell1914]

Depressing.................. I think I shall take my V8 4.4 out for a blast.

[@phileasflogg9045]

The push to get everyone in EVs is likely to lead to the dismantling of the British car manufacturing industry. There is no way we can match China.

[@mikespike007]

So in a roundabout way the government have admitted that you will lose a lot of money if you buy a new EV then sell it on the second hand market. 40% more for new then same price as petrol or diesel second hand. + if you only have street parking you cannot home charge an EV, lot of pedestrians tripping over charging cables. All this is to keep the poorest people from owning their own car.

[@MrWestcliffe]

Well done Geoff, this is what I call ...nail on a head

[@andysheppard9727]

As a engineer who works on 99% of the motorway services in the south west (M5,m4) and 40% have to turn EV charging points of in the summer due to sites not having enough power to run all the ev charging with the sites have power cuts when everything is running at fully power. The ev infrastructure isn’t there in most services Some have had huge power stations built on site to keep with demand.

[@paulwilson7622]

I would not want to be seated in the centre of a "Magnetic lines of Force" cocoon, nor in a pod that could poison me to the point of disability or death, or could incinerate me and my family and I could not get out because the electrical system has shut down and could not open doors or windows.

[@SolAce-nw2hf]

This reminds me of HAL 9000 : Dave: Hello, HAL. Do you read me HAL? HAL: Affirmative Dave... I read you. Dave: Open the pod bay doors, HAL. HAL: I'm sorry Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that. Dave: What's the problem? HAL: I think you know what the problem is just as well as I do. Dave: What are you talking about HAL? HAL: This mission is too important for me to allow you to jeopardize it. Dave: I don't know what you're talking about HAL. HAL: I know that you and Frank were planning to disconnect me, and I'm afraid that's something I cannot allow to happen. Dave: Where the hell did you get that idea, HAL? HAL: Dave, although you took very thorough precautions in the pod against my hearing you, I could see your lips move. Dave: Alright, HAL. I'll go in through the emergency airlock. HAL: Without your space helmet, Dave? You're going to find that rather difficult. Dave: HAL, I won't argue with you anymore! Open the doors! HAL: Dave, this conversation can serve no purpose anymore. Goodbye.

[@johnhammond4214]

Who believes a word that the Government says - whatever party is in power!

[@chrisdobbing3403]

Who the hell would listen to a tyrannical government?😮😮😮

[@lesedwards9289]

I worked at a Mitsubishi dealership for fifteen years and during that time the outlander phev was being sold in large numbers. When they would presented for servicing, many had never had their drive battey charged. People made use of discounts and low ved rates but never used the battery.

[@brendanpells912]

I've thought of an interim measure the government could introduce which cut vehicle emissions and get us used to driving EVs. Bring in petrol/diesel fuel rationing. Issue coupons that allow you to buy 20 litres per week. No coupon, no fuel. The sales reps and service engineers that do 100 miles/day can spend their evenings knocking on their neighbours doors with a jerry can asking if they'd fill it up with their coupons. "Sure mate, no trouble at all. Going to cost you £10/litre though. Deal?"

[@jeffmason]

I agree about HGV’s being a disaster, if we just take a small one, 7.5 ton, most are 4.5 ton and the payload is 3 ton…I would imagine the weight would go up significantly which will make the payload just 1.5 ton which will mean another delivery, more costs, more wear and tear and more charging!

[@MrT5D5]

That in turn would lead to an even greater driver shortage and of course we'd have to pay more for everything. Low emissions cost money in every way. Euro6 cars, in my experience are much more problematic than euro 5. Sensors, dpfs, adblue all this seems to have a predetermined life expectancy and do not last the life of the vehicle. Problems are often complex to diagnose and costly to repair.

[@timredd]

The government office of the Ministry of EVs. It's the office next door to the ministry of funny walks.

[@PhilONeill]

I've just been over Tesco and can't believe how much salt there is about and it is really fine with like glass sparkles - all new ultra corrosive I bet

[@fredfred2363]

And we all know how Aluminium EV battery cases like salt...

[@therealunclevanya]

Huge 1 cm snow drifts tomorrow so the country will grind to a halt

[@PhilONeill]

😁@@therealunclevanya

[@stephenjones6500]

Fact's and gov 😊😂😂🎉🎉 after the last 4 years 🤣😂😅🤪

[@simona6229]

@2:16 the premium for purchasing an electric car is 40%. @4:16 an independent research shows average savings of £700 per year. @4:30 someone buying a new EV will recoup their extra costs in 5 years. Maths: 5 times £700 is £3500 which is therefore the 40% of the cost of an ICE so the cost of an average ICE car is £8750 (40% of £8750 = £3500). This means I was ripped off buying my last ICE car to the tune of £30k OR we should send the government a new battery for their calculator.

[@ridbanner1407]

Nice logical analysis of their figures. all the government stats seem B.S. I think it is starting to get to the point that majority believe they are being lied to most of the time.

[@donrico5122]

Wot a larf !!

[@cliveclerkenville2637]

Excellent stuff. Always trust the liars and propagandists in the civil service. Promotion depends on one’s ability to tell the corporate lie well.

[@phils4634]

Another interesting thought is that the current UK total generating capacity is just over 100 GigaWatts, which is 100,000 Megawatts. Per official stats, there are now about a million EVs on UK roads, so if , say, half of these were to charge using a 250kW charging point at any one time, that's ALREADY 125GW consumed. Seeing as we're "only just starting" per the Government, I wonder how they plan for the target roll out to replace over 80% of the 33.5 MILLION cars currently on the road (which is 27 million cars alone), no consideration of other heavier vehicles). Going by the 50% / 250kW model, that's an amazing 6.75 Terawatts of power, over 50% of the current entire Global generation capacity (11.04TW installed capacity), of which the majority is STILL provided by coal fired power stations.

[@suttonelms1]

In fact it's closer to 45GW. The grid struggles to get much above 40GW on cold winter days when it's calm. The 100 figure includes wind turbines, which are intermittent, and is based on their nameplate capacity, not what they actually produce (efficiency about 30% in windy locations).

[@harris4018]

if you drag a caravan around do you leave the caravan sticking out in the road or unhook it every time you charge your ev

[@wanted-33]

I wonder if the "Office of lies, and deceit to get people to fall for this EV chit" will mention where the electricity to change an EV comes from. And also how much polution the production of that electricity causes? With that I will argue that the sound emitted from the exhaust of my Mustang GT is not noise. It is beautiful music to those that know.

[@mxjaz82]

When I'm prime minister I'm replacing the 'office for zero emission vehicles' with the office of fun vehicles.

[@musicbruv]

I live in flats. there are roughly 20 cars parked up in the parking area, where are the powers that be going to put chargers for at least 20 EV's?

[@SolAce-nw2hf]

They are still waiting for their electric digger and a mobile charger to keep it running.

[@charlesbryant5649]

Hi Geoff. I have driven my 1956 Series One Land -Rover daily for business and home use for 43 years. simple, reliable, repairable and could use alternative fuels and designed to use alternatives to petrol (if without the E10 crap content that blocks up the jets) Obviously, it has a higher fuel consumption; but thats due to gearing for work. (cars dont need that) I can take the gearbox out for rebuild every 20 years (due to constant use) and just about to change springs and I am 71. Low carbon footprint as avoided years of R&D, changes due to government demand (which get changed) no slave labour or harmful products, keeps UK businesses in work and is ultimately recyclable (or go on for ever when I am gone). I hate EV's.the government has thrown billions into them to look good instead of public transport etc. What about JCB and others producing different engines. You can put this better than me. Cheers Charles

[@michael.randall5034]

Hi, One of the best cars ever, simple, reliable and goes on forever!!

[@jerrypalmer1786]

At some point you have to stop and ask: "Just what is it that EV's are supposed to be saving us from?" There is one question that is never addressed that would expose the "climate crisis" for the scam that it is, which is "What percentage of the atmosphere is CO2?" The answer, never given in plain language, is that CO2 is currently around 420 parts per million, (google it) increased, they tell us, from 280 ppm in 1850. That's a difference of 140 ppm, or in terms more readily understood by the layman, the composition of the atmosphere has changed by 0.014% (14 thousandths of 1%) in the last 170 years. LESS THAN 1 THOUSANDTH OF 1% PER DECADE! How much closer to "zero" do they think it's possible to get? How gullible do you have to be to believe that this rate of change is causing extreme weather events, which have always happened and always will? Their claim is that this tiny amount "traps heat". ALL gasses dissipate heat and even if CO2 is an exception, the suggestion that a total of 0.042% can overwhelm the capacity of the remaining 99.958% to dissipate that heat is abject nonsense. CO2 DOES NOT control the global temperature, there is no "climate crisis". Wind farms, solar panels, heat pumps, EV's.. None of these measures are necessary, nor will they have the slightest effect on the weather. Eye-watering sums of money have already been wasted on this futile exercise. Time to wake up, stop throwing our money at these boondoggles and squandering the world's resources on projects that cannot possibly succeed as there never was a problem to begin with. There is no need to save the planet from a minuscule increase in the gas on which all life depends, but it does need to be rescued from idiot politicians and media mouthpieces that push this garbage.

[@michael.randall5034]

Hi, I agree totally, Planes ships trains and older diesels are the biggest polluter accounting for approx 90%

[@martinhudson2552]

Great video. We are still running our 10 year plus old cars. All maintained by me to a very high standard. All new cars are overly complicated.

[@adidragan]

Just had a scene play out in my head... EV owner charging at home - Parks up, plugs the car into a 240v socket, then goes off to brag about cheap home charging Diesel/Petrol owner charging at home - Police knocks down door and arrests him because you're not allowed to homebrew your own fuel for cheap (ethanol/waste oil/biodiesel/whathaveyou)

[@emmettculleton7165]

HGV DRIVERS will love them because they’re get more time off in a day you have seen council members doing this .

[@storkythepunk]

Maybe these low price 2nd hand EVs they trot on about are those ones that the manufacturers pre-registered to improve their sales figures.

[@ghunt9146]

Yes, lots of 23 pate cars available with delivery mileage & almost £10k knocked off. A new bargain for sure, but you'll still take a massive knock on it.

[@keithhooper6123]

With you on everything Light,simple,economic.Have been a kei car and truck/van driver for over forty years.

[@rjones6219]

If the industry was 'intelligent', they would have resisted these cars from the very beginning. Instead, like 'lambs to the slaughter', they allowed gov'ts to force them on us.

[@phils4634]

Irrespective of where, when and how you charge your EV, it is an added load on the distribution network. Those who have the luxury of being able to charge at home (which currently eliminates ALL flat-dwellers, and users of the majority of rental accommodation), will no doubt charge overnight. This means an added demand on baseload power, i.e. power generated by NON-"Renewable" resources since wind power is neither significant or reliable, and, well, solar doesn't work so well at night!. We already have 250kW chargers, and no doubt Tesla's (and others) Generation IV 1MW fast chargers will be appearing in due course. How the sudden imposition, and equally, removal of an added single 1MW load on the distribution network will effect voltage and frequency stability is something our leaders never think about. Assuming that most homes consume 10kVA peak load , that ONE charger "consumes" the power needed to run 100 homes, and that's to charge the ONE EV.

[@theodavies8754]

Take something that works and swap it for something that doesn't. Sounds like a good plan.

[@Julia-xz7vb]

what a load of bollocks they are coming out with. is this more Neil ferguson maths? "getting it wrong since foot and mouth". when will all the "ev gate" fines come in for all these lies.

[@Jack-lo1uc]

Has he been jailed yet?

[@stanwilson8089]

I certainly wouldn't have my children at risk in an EV.Going from Manchester to Cornwall on holiday I would need an overnight stay.

[@lesliecarter4295]

This stinks of Quentin Wilson 💩

[@outspokenwitness8744]

How long before the police knock on your door for saying mean things about EVs on social media?

[@johnwalsh5703]

Has anyone looked into the fact that if you try to force faster charging into a battery, it degrades faster. therefore you get reduced range?

[@suttonelms1]

And wears out quicker.

[@animal355]

...and after that 5 years, you will need to think about selling an EV, because of the residual value lies in the batteries remaining warranty, because its difficult to sell an EV without a warranty. Which in my opinion isn't part of the actual ownership model. In my mind it's a leasing or perpetual debt economic model. That 8 year battery warranty is the ticking clock that makes EV ownership expensive to its ICE counterpart. The ownership of an EV is short lived in compared to an internal combustion engined vehicle, hence why we won't be seeing 30 year old Teslas at a classic car show. Great video Geoff

[@michaelmatthews-uu4en]

according to the sun,ev sales are booming (Anthony Armstrong.).

[@stephenjones6500]

One million registered......in their best Dr evil voice😂

[@melvinplant8637]

That's A BLOODY LIE,I BET.

[@SolAce-nw2hf]

Yes, sold EV's are booming everywhere. Just not the way they mean 😂

[@Williamtehgit]

As Ronald regan once said the most evil words spoken are :- "hello we are from the government and we are here to help"

[@huwhodges56]

B.B.B.But the government wouldn’t lie to us Geoff…….Would they?……….NURSE!!!

[@Corkedit]

We are the science !

[@mraidymaddful]

I got an email from some govmant dept. recently asking if I would rather pay higher bills to meet the goal of net zero quicker. What kind of half arsed stupid is this. I don't give a rats arse about this net zero. And here's a little ditty for you Geoff with regards to Hydrogen power. The boffins tell us that the only by product of using hydrogen as a fuel for vehicles is a pint of water per vehicle. So using basic primary school maths: if 10 million vehicles produce 10 million pints of water, how soon will we be swamped on this tiny island of ours. It aint rocket science...................

[@franki7]

EVs hahahahaha

[@emmettculleton7165]

I just read an article that the administration for advertising has said they can’t say EV cars have less Emissions out the exhaust please look into this.

[@oldgroyne]

A golf driving range I visit regularly swapped 4 parking places for 2 EV charge stations about 6 months ago or so. So far I have not seen a single EV being charged. I’m sure there must be some but I’m wondering who is absorbing the cost/investment of this.

[@SolAce-nw2hf]

Just look in the mirror. It's your tax money.