Will a new EU directive stop us repairing old cars?

In this video we're talking about the EU's plans to ban the repair of older vehicles.
Cars over 15 years old are in the firing line - they really do want us out of our affordable old cars, and they're coming for the classic car industry next.
This is the early stages of compulsory scrapping of old vehicles.
And it really ain't good.
#classiccars #cars #news

[@GeoffBuysCars]

hit that subscribe button if you don't mind. thank you :-) i'll be going live at 2pm today for a general chat if you are around.

[@baggiebird71]

Don’t know if you’ve discussed it yet but Mr Bean is being blamed for slow sales of EV’s

[@GeoffBuysCars]

Working on a funny response to this now.@@baggiebird71

[@davidclemens1578]

An electric vehicle's power source is the battery which creates an immense carbon footprint to produce for manufacturing of an electric vehicle. Whereas in a gas or diesel vehicle the engine is the power source which is made of mostly steel or aluminum , some brass, some copper and sadly plastic for the covers such as oil pans and valve covers and the intakes. Everything except the plastic is easily recyclable. The plastic on the other hand could be considered hazardous and that problem could be resolved by using aluminum, much like they used to. But because of the fuel mileage requirements they had to make them lighter and plastic seems to be their only option. Carbon pound for carbon pound, it could be said that the gasoline/diesel powered vehicles are more environmentally responsible than the government requirement.

[@monkynuts1261]

When are we all meeting to stop what's happening?

[@gingercornishhillbillyuk]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z5OumKaNmdZskLs ‘Absolutely absurd’: Rowan Atkinson blamed for EV plunge

[@CascadeSport]

This isn't about "saving" the environment, this is about control.

[@sand0760]

wef is eu is evil.

[@FabianDialer-vw1zk]

Nah, all about profit for the Lobby. Back then everyone was screaming against Petrol cars when Diesel was the new thing. Now the new thing are EV's which are some of the dumbest cars I've ever seen being pushed onto people, in the end the sheep will doom us who just follow the trend and don't think.

[@Louc4356]

@@FabianDialer-vw1zki did a bit of research on electric cars and how much they pollute and it turns out a new battery (which needs to be replaced every 6 years and costs 20k) can release around 15 tonnes of co2 whereas driving a relatively modern car for 6 years only releases around 8 tonnes

[@esilva4973]

@@FabianDialer-vw1zkThe diesel push was so retarded, now whats more than I can count are diesel shitboxes that smell like shit spewing ungodly amounts of NOx but at least the german automakers were happy I guess

[@metalinvalidmatt]

@@Louc4356 and the EV technology will get better (or "better") over time; so this "your car is too old" issue will remain for EV's, as battery/motor efficiency starts to become marketable and notable, people will be told their 'old' EV is not good enough to be repaired as it takes more KW per KM or what-have-you.

[@CSGATI]

We could fix lawmakers but it looks like we need to scrap them.

[@RudyF6]

Can't fix them, it's a design defect...

[@pswelles5714]

I disagree with both of you! always spay and neuter your politicians. Or you get excessive propagation of government.

[@martinsims1273]

​@@pswelles5714I think you mis-spelled that. Shouldn't that read "misgovernment"?

[@pswelles5714]

only after@@martinsims1273

[@myfatassdick]

If only there was a well armed militia you guys could form

[@user-nr7jm1so5j]

Single use cars, single use straws, single use nappies. Time for single use politicians... one and done.

[@Christian---]

The tree of liberty is watered with what now?

[@geoffreytoomey682]

Also what is happening in your country in May 2024? The WEF+EU+UN+WHO are building their GREAT RESET a feudal system! Yes, these creatures are truly evil Globalist MONSTERS! The WHO PLANNED-demic TREATY is supposed to be agreed to by UN Member Country Government Politicians in May? That’s just 2 months away! meaning that in Australia If the UNs puppet PM Albo-sleazy does betray us by secretly signing the "WHO PLANNED-DEMIC TREATY" giving our national sovereignty away to the new owners of the "WHO", Dr Billy Goats is the biggest investor then Black Rock and the Rothschild Foundation and the other evil Globalist monsters of the “WHO" those evil murdering mongrels will force their poisonous Human Genocide concoction into my wrinkly old body, I have had all my actual tested vaccines during my 74 years, our, well not ours. 49 years of betrayal by all UN Member Country Government POLITICIAN TRAITORS. The UNs LABOR and LNP Politicians traitors always scurry out of the chamber when any Patriotic Politician speaks about the excessive deaths happening globally since the "miracle to have been available so quickly" VOVID 19 Vaccines containing (mRNA and Contaminated DNA required to enter human cells, to change the original human DNA?) were injected into humans? Still nothing from the Globalists MSM? I didn't know about the DNA and mRNA working together to alter the original human DNA in their Covid COVID-19 vaccines, (Why would they invent Human DNA changing material? I bet none of the Globalist monsters ever get injected with it! I learnt about that by watching "Redacted" and Dr John, and other "true human" Doctors.

[@user-wp9rq3kb6h]

Right single use straws so you carry a straw with you everywhere you go, this is why the single use straws are now paper, which is recyclable. Did you get the memo? Actually straws used to be made of paper it was phased out in favour of plastic long before the UK joined the EU you know the time when we made such good quality cars, and made those horrible concrete buildings.

[@user-nr7jm1so5j]

@@user-wp9rq3kb6h Your suspected autism traits ... renders an constrictive and inflexible, concrete-perspective ... fully devoid of the ability to decipher nuance and allegory, thus failing to decipher or appreciate colorful literary devices deployed in higher humour. In other words, you missed the point ... dude.

[@sideshowbob5813]

single use women...

[@BigMack2020]

As a guy that drives a 30 year old car as a daily. It sounds like it's time to start stocking up on parts

[@Peekaboo-Kitty]

Or just buy a spare Car!

[@chiccoka]

Time to leave the eu .

[@watcher-someone-awake]

@@chiccoka Greetings from SF Bay Area California! Wasn't that tried; whatever happened with Brexit?

[@chiccoka]

@@watcher-someone-awake Eu is rotten no characters in the politics just payed b…tches

[@morpheon_xyz]

My car is almost 20y/o and from experience, some spare parts are being manufactured to lower than necessary standard so it'll require more frequent repairs, thus reducing usability in general, so either way there's not really a way to avoid this. Unfortunately due to the nature of things in today's day and age and the way things are going, we're gonna have to Frankenstein older vehicles just to keep them going, cuz from my experience, the newer stuff are 💩 I can drive my car all day and have fun driving it, but the new vehicle I've been issued for work as replacement for the older one is annoying me even more, gives me less options for control, and has just been a headache after the next for the past month and a few

[@skunkworks9-3]

Another step from the "you will own nothing and be happy" crowd. Think it's about time to make our voices heard. Been time but it's time to get louder

[@skunkworks9-3]

Newest car I have is an 11 and even that is almost too new for me. My Saabs have already paid their carbon debt and still return around 30 mpg on the highway. These people need to be removed from office and live in the real world for a while.

[@tezzo55]

On you go then! Exactly WHAT are you going to do?

[@davidbarlow350]

@@tezzo55 Do what i've been doing providing evidence that NASA.NOAA and The IPCC have all been manipulating their figures and making fake charts. I have continually badgered my MP and the department for climate change and nett zero,and i will continue to do so. There isn't any global warming or drastic climate change,and there never was.

[@TheRealWindlePoons]

@@skunkworks9-3 "Newest car I have is an 11 and even that is almost too new for me." For me its 7 years - but that was so that the biggest part of depreciation had happened and there was plenty of life in the vehicle for high mileage use for work.

[@charlesfield9890]

This won't be a problem for EV owners as their cars won't last for 15 years anyway

[@pete_bruschi_racing]

I'm so glad we have SEMA in the states lobbying for car enthusiast interests. That is a real shame that your government would propose such a ridiculous, wasteful, impractical measure. But not surprising because this day and age, nobody can hold these lawmakers accountable, and they don't have to play by the same rules we do.

[@SweatyFatGuy]

The EPA going after aftermarket parts suppliers because they sell parts that make cars run cleaner is ludicrous. Not even 20 years ago ethanol was considered an 'Alt fuel' but then they realized we can make it ourselves. Now its a bad fuel, and all ICE engines need to be banned. The EPA is acting like the ATF making up rules and treating them like laws. Its beyond their mandate, but they do it anyway, with impunity. On the bright side SEMA actively works to protect us from bad legislation. It is far more environmentally friendly to rebuild an old car than it is to produce a new one. An EV is even worse due to mining and the less recyclable nature of the components, and the much shorter lifespan of those parts. The goal is obvious, to prevent us from travelling outside their view. The fact we can build vehicles ourselves and power them with home made fuels that are actually cleaner than what they want us to use, and they want to outlaw us doing it says all you need to know.

[@anonnona8099]

@pete_bruschi_racing > That is a real shame that your government would propose > such a ridiculous, wasteful, impractical measure. No - the real shame is that you watch a video like this and just assume it's true, and never wonder if it might really be a load of old b-ll-cks.

[@Getagrip1942]

I do actually think this way too they won't take the risk I think

[@anonnona8099]

@@Getagrip1942 > I do actually think this way too they won't take the risk I think It's nothing to do with taking or not taking risks. They simply are not, and were never, proposing what Geoff told you they were going to do. He didn't bother to actually read the material put out by the EU to find what it actually said. Neither did pete_bruschi_racing. And until you do, you are always going to be at the mercy of people quite prepared to lie to you to further some personal agenda they have.

[@QwoaX]

Especially with how large and heavy cars are getting recently, we need to do everything to preserve the small, efficient, non-road-destroying cars already out there. You can't tell me that a 3 ton electric SUV is somehow more environmentally friendly than an actual small car from the 90s, dare I say a Kei car.

[@marwerno]

Plus all the electronics and gadgets they put in! I drove a Dacia Logan Stationwagon. I needed between 3.8 to 4.3 liters on 100km and had a real useful car. A tiny overstuffed Smart car is using more like 5 liters! What 💩💩💩💩 is that?

[@TheOnlyjoke345]

I've been saying the weight of them will make more problems like a car park built in the 90s completely full of EVS it's gonna come down one day but I'm call a conspiracy theorist like we can't see the poor maintenance of them already creating problems with the lighter cars we have now

[@Philipmarlowe77]

Just want to remind you people that other European countries are revolting against the EU.the Yanks Ford and GM have stopped future production of EV..bringing back the petrol and diesel..😊

[@corrigenda70]

A lone but welcome beacon.

[@solihullman5230]

@Philipmarlowe77. Evidence please, that's not what I am reading.

[@brondahawkins9264]

Also investing in hydrogen

[@danielnln]

​@@solihullman5230 👆awe... you can read 😏 just the slightest rudimentary research will prove the statement correct. *European farmer protests *US vehicle manufacturers are endIng EV's due to slow/no consumer demand.

[@JoeOvercoat]

No, they have not stopped future production. The OEMs realize they’ve built far too many EVs and that the consumers don’t want them, but that doesn’t change the fact that the law is still requiring them to sell EVs and that they still advertise EVs relentlessly. The only businesses in America that have gone on record against EVs are the dealerships. If you have to lie to make your case, then you’ve already lost .

[@12235117657598502586]

I’VE NEVER PUBLICLY PROTESTED IN MY LIFE…BUT ANY UK GOVERNMENT WHO WANTS TO BRING THAT LAW IN WILL SEE PROTESTS THAT WILL MAKE HISTORY!! 😡

[@StephenWilliams]

I bloody hope so but apathy seems to have become a way of life for so many. So often it's a case of tut quietly and carry on.

[@113msaunders]

👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@12235117657598502586]

@@StephenWilliams Yes, but the VAST MAJORITY of the population NEED to drive (affordable vehicles) to SURVIVE… And EVERYONE has a COLLECTIVE BREAKING POINT! A law like that will ‘test’ where that collective breaking-point is. 🤔😬

[@RedwolfDogrocket]

Nah Britain will just bend over and take it.

[@Brummie666]

They won't though, Brits have now become pathetic and think a few posts on Facebook or Twitter is equivalent to a mass protest

[@adamautomotive]

As a professional auto electrician and mechanic a can confirm this has been in process for the last 10 years or so atleast, if not longer. Getting hold of simple fuse info or wiring diagrams for many vehicles is now almost impossible in many cases. I have paid subscriptions to technical info providers such as Alldata and even they cant provide me with over half the info i need. I have a video on this myself. With the influx of highly electronic systems which are guaranteed to fail within a certain amount of time, there is very little chance of anyone (garages, mechanics etc) being able to fix complex issues, even the main dealers struggle at times. I would say this started when the OBD ports were added in 1998, many garages started to struggle from then up until today. More and more old school garages and mechanics have packed up or are ready to. Thanks for the great videos and entertainment.

[@maxfolio940]

We will just have to install aftermarket ecus soon

[@1a1_sc400]

I had the same problem, I wasn’t able to find any info for newer cars from 2010s only how to replace the part, and to compare my 90s Lexus had so much detail in the repair manual that I can literally build one

[@adamautomotive]

@maxfolio940 that's just the engine, and ecu's are easily replaced with second hand units or repaired, most vehicles are just rolling computer networks, many with multiple networks, and up to around 50 control modules in some fully loaded high end vehicles, 1 for every system on the car almost, then all the sensors, actuators etc.

[@adamautomotive]

@1a1_sc400 Yes, exactly very true. Not that you would ever need a repair manual for a 90's Lexus! I don't think I've diagnosed or worked on any, i have on a handful of the modern hybrids, though, a couple at most.

[@matthewnirenberg]

@@adamautomotive Only until they introduce software licences based on the hardware ID's of all parts in the "new type" ECU's - John Deere did that so only an approved service centre could swap any parts as only they could request an updated licence based on the new overall hardware ID. Thankfully people hacked that era of ECU's but sadly the newer era are embedded windows or linux based and the licencing can't be hacked due to heavy encryption. Oh and even if you swapped the official ECU with a standard one, it still wouldn't work as the parts are all chipped. The hack that was made modified or exploited a "left-in" mode in the firmware on the official ECU and put all parts into a mode where licencing could be ignored and if I remember correctly, zeroed out and disabled the checks in the chips of all critical parts.

[@mr.hughes5808]

Geoff! Start the lobby and I will support, you are the man for the job

[@anonnona8099]

@mr.hughes5808 > Geoff! Start the lobby and I will support, you are the man for the job Yup - if you want a job done by someone who knows nothing about it and cares even less, Geoff's your man.

[@liberty0758]

Almost every dystopian movie ever made is slowly turning into reality.

[@lucidity7983]

Not even slowly now, the dystopian shuffle has turned into a sprint!

[@Jacob-yb6bv]

I watched them all. Can’t watch them anymore. I used to hold some hope as to how would any of this be accepted but we now know that a majority either don’t know until it’s too late, are quite happy with it because of the indoctrination they’ve been given or are so involved in their own small world that they don’t care.

[@aliengrey6052]

It’s up to us to ignore these psychopaths.

[@CosmicSeeker69]

It's called pre-cognition. It plants a narrative in your mind so that when it happens your mind has it already present and doesn't react.. the C.l.A have used this for decades with the film industry - decades.

[@aliengrey6052]

Don’t you get it ? It’s never been about cars. Net zero is about getting rid of people.

[@BLOWN8CYLINDER]

Ban making new cars and keep what we have running would be a green option.....

[@chrishart8548]

The cars we already gave wouldn't last long we would soon be fighting over the cars that were still working

[@corrigenda70]

They cannot think of that because the real motive is not to maintain and repair it is to force everybody onto public transport which of course never works - just as nationalisation never works except by force in a militarian setting.

[@Jonny_The_Organism]

I would repaint my old car green...just as a statement..... Gubmen : "Your car is old and not very green sir." Me : "Whaddyu talkin'bout Willis?!"

[@onlyonewhyphy]

The green people absolutely do not want Green options. They want a post apocalyptic hellscape, as far as I've seen.

[@JoeOvercoat]

@@chrishart8548 That’s consumerism at work, not environmental consciousness.BLOWNCYLINDER is right: the green option is to not scrap anything that took scads of carbon to produce. ICE cars can last indefinitely given proper care. Ban new cars and maybe people will start taking care of the one they have instead of trashing it and replacing it every three years as an act of consumerism.

[@alcord2540]

How about scrapping the e-u as its over 15 years old.

[@fireblow6842]

Also, it is running on fossils haha

[@justtocomment6261]

Yes, it's way overdue.

[@matufujiwara7493]

a fun thought that popped in my head during this video. where you read "the car needs to be scrapped if it's repair cost exceeds the car value" well, it may exceed the car value, but it is usually cheaper than a brand new car much smaller fault repair cost.

[@stuartwinter2758]

Value is subjective.... some are passed down through generations ect and are simply not just a form of transportation.

[@matufujiwara7493]

@@stuartwinter2758 in my language it's called emotional value which is another topic on it's own

[@danielc3003]

Define value. True value is replacement cost.

[@stuartwinter2758]

@danielc3003 I respectfully disagree. If I own something and value it more than yourself there is a difference in value there just to start. If what you are talking about is 'market value' that's also subjective dependent on multiple factors. Also, my point to add context is that something may be emotionally valuable or simply irreplaceable. For example here in Australia I drive a Holden v8 utility. There is not a manufacturer on planet earth even making vehicles remotely similar to to these and therefore myself and most other drivers of these have a perceived increased value on these particular vehicles which differs greatly from any subjectjective 'market value' an insurer or independent body may put on it.

[@danielc3003]

Define "value". Transportation is a tangible asset not a market perception.@@stuartwinter2758

[@doughendrie5468]

And Classic Bikes. I’ve got a 1950 D1 Bantam on the road and am in the process of rebuilding a D3 engine. No problems getting parts. Subscribed

[@ic3358]

We got to get off our arses people !!!!!!!

[@wesleyconn620]

how about we set up our own organized protest and our own organization.

[@monkynuts1261]

When ?

[@pujapete3665]

haha,this is uk

[@madhatter8253]

It definitely going to happen, just look at the farmers across Europe

[@wesleyconn620]

they need to keep it up and i hope the farmers here start i for one will join them in the fight for sure@@madhatter8253

[@workdevice7808]

The EU has Mad Car Disease.

[@LobotomyTC]

The EU was a mistake from the beginning. Why did Europe try to federate right around the time the US realized that shit was a horrible idea?

[@DT-abcd]

It is in the US already

[@HouseCallAutoRepair]

It's ALL about control.

[@beatersnbeers2145]

@@DT-abcdsince when is it against the law to repair your car in the us?

[@ThisTimeTheWorld]

@@HouseCallAutoRepair semitism is hate speech and Google mods are kikes

[@shedtime_au]

This is the de-facto case in Australia already. Insurance often classifies lightly crashed vehicles as unrepairable, which means that even if I buy it and do the repairs myself it can never be registered again. The category is "non-repairable write-off" which more often means "economic write-off" and many very viable cars are lost through this utter stupidity. The only way to find a bargain to repair now is to dig around for crash damaged vehicles that were uninsured when an accident occurred. Values of older rust buckets have therefore gone through the roof as keen motorists scramble to find a car worth driving that isn't full of plastic and electronics.

[@a64738]

Actually the "unrepairable" cars being written of is a scam... In reality the cars is sold to repair shops that fix the cars and put them back on the road again for good profit (that is at least how it works her in Europe).

[@MORTICIA008]

A while ago there were rumours about home ownership. Went something along the lines of homes being seized etc by means of having forced repairs/upkeep stipulations, and if owners do not comply, eg high expense, then the home could be forfeit. Forced to give it up. Can't sell it either because it's failed its MoT, etc, and presumably can't live in condemned property even if it might just need double glazing. This attack on cars seems to go a way to enforce the rumours that sooner or later property ownership could be challenged. People themselves might not escape as they/we may be subject to a personal points system, a sort of personal MoT. Access to people's bank accounts means your wealth and availability can be controlled remotely. (Look at the post office!). Drop a piece of paper and you could be financially punished/inconvenienced etc. All part of the big plan? You will own nothing and be happy! No home No car No job No life ..... nothing! NO wealth (unless you're one of the 1%?)🎉

[@boelensds]

The socialist grand scheme. pushed by left and wef unfortunately backed by green groups. and common sens has left the building with elvis.

[@robertscheinost179]

Sounds like mainland China to me......

[@MORTICIA008]

@@robertscheinost179 Coming to a town near you? Think the house rumours were aimed at the west, but likelihood part of a bigger plan?

[@robertscheinost179]

The way house prices are, I wouldn't be surprised. Also, more authoritarian Gov'ts. @@MORTICIA008

[@anonnona8099]

@MORTICIA008 > A while ago there were rumours about home ownership. There are always rumours about something. The world is full of idiots and mischief makers spreading them.

[@koalabumismine]

This is absolutely insane… How can anyone say this is about the environment when this is the nonsense they’re heading towards.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Notice how cars keep getting bigger, more expensive and more easily scrapped, and more difficult to fix ? All done while lecturing us about our sins.

[@justinhitchcock6130]

Exactly and it's not just cars ! Phones computers tvs you name it all built to have a very limited life

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@justinhitchcock6130 Apples with soldered in SSD - not good!

[@carminaburana9163]

Jeff told us : less people in the world, less cars ! As simple as that ! They want to get rid of us, so WE should get rid of them 😂

[@RKZX2]

You should see all the complaints about Samsung fridges failing after a few years here in the US

[@grahamdraper665]

My Citroen 2cv is 50 this year and it's still my daily transport and has been totally reliable over the 34 yrs in my ownership.

[@andrewprettyquick2070]

pull other one 🤫

[@grahamdraper665]

@@andrewprettyquick2070 third engine 500000 approx sitting in my drive in the rain will start on the button,also has done laps of Europe towed an MGB from a ditch ,towed a small caravan to Devon , my other 2cv did Australia for 6 months rainforest deserts totally reliable.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Not much to go wrong on those, perhaps the least polluting car of all time.

[@EvoraGT430]

@@G-ra-ha-m The MOST polluting engine in all time! It's horrendous.

[@grahamdraper665]

@@EvoraGT430 hemi heads runs hot being air-cooled co 1.25 what are you talking about.

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

Should start calling it the Screw Poor People Law.

[@MrDiplomata]

An antique car is less propense to stop at the street or road due to problems (as long it's being well maintained) than these trashy atual cars! I fell into your channel by KZbin recommendation and I agree with you! "Scrap and buy a new one"... Could it be applied to our "dear" politicians? This could be great! Greetings from Brazil!👍

[@domrowlands4684]

If this comes even close to being passed you will see all ministers and lords heads on pikes in strategic position around the square mile with the exception of the only HONOURABLE MP Andrew Bridgen 😂👍✌🙏

[@FreeFlyerUk]

Perhaps if this was France or Spain... But Brits will just tut.

[@noggintube]

The sad truth is the UK public will do nothing but complain about it, especially on social media, and the government know it, laughing all the way to the bank.

[@bernardlandymore7372]

Its the only way to stop this madness, nothing else will stop them.

[@andrewprosser3717]

The night of the thousand knives is getting closer.

[@effigy42]

People literally took gene therapy which was 100% consent based and than claim it was forced upon them 😂 they will bend over like good slaves to this too

[@hectorshouse7348]

It’s so obvious they only want rich people to have personal transport, yet so many people fail to connect the dots. Great work mate, thank you.

[@robertsmith2956]

This while they can't keep the trains and busses running.

[@rbnhd1144]

I totally buy into that, but people will revolt then lets see.

[@robertsmith2956]

@@rbnhd1144 at least the illegals will anyways. Look at NYC when they took their cars, they started beating up the cops. LOL

[@sand0760]

fight to governmemt now

[@jamesreynolds4811]

I saw this somewhere else. So I looked up the directive. It doesn’t say this at all. It is a directive designed to stop scrapped cars being exported. That is all. There is a specific exclusion for classic cars as are your rights to keep and fix a car that is uneconomic to repair. I’ll repeat, this is to stop cars that are scrapped from being exported to unregulated markets.

[@patrickbledsoe2176]

Great video thank you for looking out of us people that care

[@BionicRusty]

So those old Ferraris and Lamborghinis owned by the elite are now worthless?! Or will there be a clause allowing them to not be crushed? 🤔

[@Crosshatch1212]

Yep .

[@AnthonyJones-vk6xq]

Yes indeed there is a clause, something to do with a manufacturers total car production, for example Ferrari produce less than 100,000 cars a year - so you can still buy a Ferrari to go to the shops !!!

[@RichardKijak]

Oh, you can still own them, just not be allowed to use them on the roads. So you can walk around it in your garage, or on a track if you can get some synthetic fuel.

[@devonsteve2347]

Probably a bit like the fuel being exempt for ‘super yachts’ and private aircraft.

[@johnmoncrieff3034]

They will be classed as pieces of mobile ART & be exempt from all this new regulation! or there will be a cost point cut off! like any vehicle worth 10 times its original sale price is exempt!

[@torukmahtomahto409]

So, the difference between a conspiracy theory and the fact is now about 6 months,,,

[@hudsonbear5038]

yep its about that....

[@nigellawrance2130]

It's always been about 6 months

[@bernardlandymore7372]

Its getting less than that now.

[@paulpicquigny4494]

Conspiracy theories are now spoiler alerts.

[@johnmoncrieff3034]

No it is in who is claiming what is a conspiracy, IE those who are carrying out the facts. WEF, UN, EU, & WHO etc. Or their media lackeys

[@garethbattersby]

Some of the terrible roads did a number on my control arms on my old Celica. I replaced them and other components on the underside essentials returning it to a brand new car at the rear. I then did the front end. Yes the cost could be argued to be more than the car is worth... but now i have an old celica that is brand new on the suspension. And it rides like new. I would fight anyone who claimed it was due for the scrap yard because of a few bolt on parts.

[@TimBray-mz9wx]

Think of the environmental impact of producing electric cars. Most classic and older vehicles aren't used as daily transport. Also the impact of a policy like this on mechanics who repair older vehicles. I'm one ! Thanks for the info👍

[@pmhildreth]

this is very frightening. I'm a classic car owner but believe me, I am not complacent as you suggest. I've been saying for ages that the powers that be hate us having our own independent transport. It's all about control

[@gug1970]

"hate us" [ full stop ]. There, fixed that for you :D

[@G-ra-ha-m]

@@gug1970 Yes, they hate us, and will hate us even more when we have nothing.

[@LesterLovesWatches]

Even if these regulations come into effect I doubt it will affect historic vehicles.

[@kirkjohnson6638]

​@@LesterLovesWatchesAny vehicle that is cared for and lasts beyond the point where 90% of it's model year are rusting in junk yards is a historic vehicle in my book. I consider my '97 Mustang Cobra convertible and my '79 MGB roadster to both be classics.

[@homeistheearth]

​@@LesterLovesWatchestyranny dont come fast and clear, it always come in small steps. This will become more and more strickt as they have done with all other of these green retarded ideologys!!

[@aitchpee5069]

They will be flattening our old houses next.

[@robertsmith2956]

Haven't they been refusing to let you repair your homes for decades now?

[@stitchlover633]

scary thought

[@davidlucas6701]

No,they are planning to take private homes and you will have to "rent" these freaks don't want us owning anything!!

[@RandomUser6947]

Those rules have already been talked about. By 2033 they want all buildings in the EU to be energy class D or better. If your house cannot reach that level, you will no longer be allowed to sell it. It will have to removed once you leave it. That way they can force everybody to live in those "modern cities", where you own nothing and will be happy (or else...).

[@lennyo5165]

I agree they will slowly come after everyone. Here in the U.S. when the implemented the emissions testing it was specifically designed to remove many older cars from the road. I do feel the same as you do however just 3 years ago I replaced the engine in my then 34 year old car. The vehicle was still perfectly serviceable and though an engine was a bit pricey it was still much cheaper than a new car. Hell the engine and labor only cost about 3 or 4 months worth of new car payments.

[@GermanTopGameTV]

The problem isn't that they want us to drive less poluting vehicles, it's the fact that they are completely oblivous to the fact that most people cannot afford the electric car as it is - they have no resale value, their batteries degrade until you need a new battery pack (which costs more then an engine and transmission refit on an ICE car) and all of this happens over a much, much shorter period of time (~8 to 10 years). It shows that lawmakers are completely unaware of the reality that very few people actually have the means to afford new cars, and that the general population trends to buying second hand vehicles to get around. And while I see some exclusionary clauses being added for "classic vehicles" and other hairloom type cars, this doesn't cover the amount of old golfs, focuses and corsas who are simply the only thing a single mother of two can afford to drive around. It's a classic tale of "Banning something without providing an adequate replacement". We've had this before when the EU banned incandacent light bulbs before LED lighting was ready for the mass market, forcing everyone into this weird carcinogenic intermediate period of mercury filled shitty energy saving bulbs. Nowadays, we don't really miss those incandacent bulbs because let's face it, LEDs are simply better. But this point where electric cars are "simply better" in all regards, especially second hand "beater market" prices is very far in the future. ICE cars got cheaper because they lost their cool, their styling was outdated, amenities such as AC would fail and they would become less comfortable. None of these price degrading aspects affected the function of the car - it still got you from A to B, used the same amount of fuel (roughly) as it did when it left the factory, and thus filled the transportation niche for those that simply needed to get around, no frills and thrills. I hope they revise this law and simply enforce updates on these cars, such as "engine replacements" requiring more modern engines to be fitted if they are done and mandatory retrofits to exhaust systems to reduce emissions. That would be a sensible and somewhat cost effective intermediate that allows you to still move your old car around, but also reducing the negative sideeffects of said vehicle.

[@SHDW-nf2ki]

Here in Canada its so hard to find a good junk yard, they really don't want us taking care of things. Emissions are just an excuse to prevent ownership.

[@alanjameson8664]

Probably hard to find good (or any) junk yards in Canada for the same reason as in the US: Chinese companies have been buying them up to get parts that are remanufactured and sold into the parts supply chain.

[@davidg4288]

Canada eh? "My uncle has a country place no one knows about, he says it used to be a farm before the motor law." - Rush Maybe you could be that uncle?

[@kellikelli4413]

We're heading into a very greedy future (if we do nothing to stop its progress).

[@No0basaurusRAWR]

I feel blessed that I live in a junkyard

[@kellikelli4413]

I've been pointing out for years that a govt that spends time and money on keeping their country in good condition & it's ppl free, is a country that cares -

[@user-rn3wo9bw1z]

Wake up people.fight back . before it's to late

[@PamDolittle]

The plebs can walk the rich can afford to buy these

[@user-rn3wo9bw1z]

@@PamDolittle thank you for your feedback.sad but true

[@user-lj9ld8ir1e]

We wont fight.We are gutless.

[@donaldboughton8686]

Don't vote for the LibDumb's, Labour, Tories and definitely not the Greens at the next general election. Vote Reform party. It would cause me great merriment if all the party leaders were swintonized at the next general election. The sight of all the party leaders, apart from the Reform party's, scrambling for a safe seat after unseating an unwilling party MP who had just won the election would cause me great joy.

[@Slazlo-Brovnik]

There is al lot to fight, but not in this case: There are no plans of the EU to "ban repairs" of older cars. There have been published some Quotations out of context context, suitably shortened by interested parties, and Geoff is falling for that - without checking if his "facts" are actually facts.

[@mriggst]

It doesn't apply in the UK. We've left the EU.

[@radu1006]

Most car body panels require cutting and welding if the panel require replacing.

[@agoogleuser6030]

Yeah that's my read of it so far. If you've been in an accident / the car got damaged somehow you're scr3wed... (unless you can do the repair by yourself - but they're like aiming to leverage oversight processes to register damage) To me other scenario's are already covered under regular economics and depreciation due to high costs to repair

[@brianellis4964]

One thing to remember, in the UK we are not under EU regulations.

[@newsoftheday420]

We never left bro

[@hudsonbear5038]

NO but you can bet the woke gov will implement their own version of the rules....

[@brendanpells912]

The cars we buy are. Car makers aren't going to take sides with insignificant UK against powerful EU.

[@Jacob-yb6bv]

I think you’ll find that we are.

[@daleskidmore1685]

But our Parliament is inclined to get its ideas from them still. And any original ideas get shot down by the Upper House.

[@witoldschwenke9492]

That is insane. It's not good for the environment either because it forces people to produce more new cars. They already did this to home heating systems in Germany where you can't do certain repairs anymore. If they also do this to cars there will be no way for anyone of the lower classes to keep surviving in Germany. People often only barely get by as it is , if you force them to buy new cars they have no choice but to stop working altogether and to move into the city so they can walk to the grocery store. A lot of elderly people will basically be forced to surrender their life to the state as well. Because they need cars to buy food or leave the village and go to town or work, naturally few people can take on massive debt to buy a new car. Every old car will eventually need the brakes done it's not even a costly repair. Not to mention that age is no indicator of fuel consumption. Many new cars get very similar figures as old ones. Most differences only exist on paper but not in real world driving conditions. Considering the very extreme fuel prices anyone who can afford to do so already buys the best vehicle they can get, those who buy gas guzzlers are rich people who won't be affected by the regulation anyway.

[@fortheloveofnoise9298]

It's all about money...the environment is just the marketing strategy

[@astragreen]

It’s all part of the WEF orders the ‘climate hysteria global warming’ claptrap!.

[@Slazlo-Brovnik]

And BECAUSE it would be insane, it is actually not true at all: There are no plans of the EU to "ban repairs" of older cars. There have been published some Quotations out of context, suitably shortened by interested parties, and Geoff is falling for that - without checking if his "facts" are actually facts.

[@mrrooter601]

@@Slazlo-Brovnik guess you have never heard of testing the waters. I promise I will come back here in 5 years to say I told you so.

[@kazekamiha]

Yeesh. If you own it you should be allowed to repair it. Government has no place sticking their noses were it doesn't belong.

[@garrydaines3703]

My interpretation is that they're trying to prevent people repairing 'categorized' crash damaged vehicles and vehicles otherwise 'written off' by the insurance, for example when they're beyond economical repair because of, let's say, flood damage or it caught fire. It sounds like once a vehicle reaches a certain point (in the financial viability of repairing it), they want to prevent it being repaired. To achieve this, they're going to have to close some loopholes as I've seen on other channels that insurance companies don't always categorize a car if it's very high end.

[@MattSmith-ks2lc]

Good video. This is a concerning topic. Just so you know I'm listening on headphones and the audio seems to cut out of one of the left or right channels.

[@bobmitchell8012]

We WILL NOT Comply..!!

[@meekdook4236]

You will comply. -7/9.

[@__ZANE__]

i bet you wore the face nappy for 3 years!

[@leeyoung9469]

As a resident of Spain I can confirm that the vast majority of vehicles are old ones, mine included. There’ll be trouble on the streets if such policies are introduced. Like the French the Spanish will occupy the streets in their millions. Having said that, however, there is a war on ICEs heading our way.

[@MetalTrabant]

Hungary also. New car buying rapidly declined among regular people after the 2008 financial crisis, and most newer vehicles are belonging to companies, as regular people aren't really able to afford buying these incredibly expensive new cars. '90s cars are still regular daily drivers here, and even '80s cars are not such a rare sight. Personally I have a 40 year old Trabant, and a 19 year old Lancer Wagon. I'm gonna cling onto them to the very end...

[@BuggyGamer-db6mw]

There probally wouldn´t be and trouble on the streets as this Guy seems to be talking some nonsense quoting some online magazine that simply typed some utter bullshit. What he´s talking about was already dismissed in January as not true. I´m currently reading parts of the directive and thus far i can say it only gives very rough guidelines on things, mostly aiming to prevent the export of unroadworthy, enviroment-endangering, as well as scrap vehicles to non-EU countries to prevent them from just disappearing and being disposed of illegally. Most of this all also doesn´t apply to historical vehicles (so 30+ years old, not in production anymore and in a roadworthy, decent state), so you can all relax a bit lads.

[@BudgetMechanic]

I wish nordic EU countries would have as much people and courage as Spain and France, if goverment does something stupid the streets should be full of angry mob. Instead for example in Finland there has been many huge taxes placed on cars and people just complain about that in media. Imagine paying almost 1000 euros a year just to drive a diesel car. Thats just only the vehicle tax, then add up insurance and cost of gasoline (wich is really horribly priced)

[@laurentpenot2656]

​@@BuggyGamer-db6mwno we shouldn't because that's the way we've all been FOOLED IN MANY SUBJECTS !

[@mk6315]

@@BuggyGamer-db6mw relaxing is how we got in this mess give your head a shake

[@KripticSniper]

great update thanks Geoff

[@robertscheinost179]

You have my attention, mate. I just found your channel and subscribed!

[@bongoib]

Lets do as the FARMERS in EU, everybody that is having to let go of their jobs in the future because of this EU car law, NOW is the time to stand up for YOUR FUTURE

[@MontgomeryPisswhistle]

They can fuck right off, Geoff. I know it's weird that I love my BMW so much but had it for 10 years now and it's been the best car I've ever had. It's one of the family. Its 17 years old and fit as a fiddle. This could be war.

[@kellikelli4413]

It's all about greed. And "we the people" can't afford their greed...

[@sarahsovereign4522]

In the USA (in late aughts, I think), we had "Cash for Clunkers" - a government buy-back program specifically designed to get older, "less efficient" cars off the road. We were naiive, hadn't seen enough cars with computers that would do more than control your fuel/air mix and tell you what system was out of tune. Best thing you can do to combat this is teach the teens you see borrowing a car how to open the hood, then help them get curious!

[@anthonyprice5596]

Just as the farmers did, the people will rise up. The WEF is finnished, everyones seeing it now.

[@johnmoncrieff3034]

If you think that then it is you who is finished the WEF only have a forward gear & they are on the train to what could be called the new extermination camp with half the global population on that train! As stated by Klaus Schwab himself!

[@Freeontheland2030]

Yet they march on unimpeded towards their goals.

[@meekdook4236]

No. The population in sweden doesn’t see it.

[@pabr2405]

Greetings from Norway. It was a documentary on norwegian tv where they looked at scrapped electric cars and what kind of damage they had, alot of them had just a slight dent under the car where the battery is. Mechanics was not allowed to repair them, the whole car goes to the junkyard and there is not allowed to take parts from this car to repair another car, even if the part is not damaged in any way. I don`t understand how this can be better, the insurance should be ridiculous high, I guess everyone whith a old sturdy car chips in...

[@swecreations]

Hi, Swedish person here, this is not true, parts are definitely taken away from them, and people do work and repair them. Have seen it done first-hand both here in Sweden and in Norway. If you look at any used-parts website you will find plenty of used parts from old electric cars as well, which you can see with a simple Google search. Have no idea why this comment got so many likes but I think it speaks volumes about how well-educated this audience is around electric vehicles. I do think that if you're going to critizise something then you should at least do so with good reason.

[@pabr2405]

@@swecreations the insurance companies does not allow it if you want it covered, they might have changed this policy after the documentary..

[@BuggyGamer-db6mw]

@@pabr2405 But in that case it´s a problem with the insurance companies, not the goverment/regulations.

[@Victor-056]

@@BuggyGamer-db6mw Government regulations can affect Insurance Companies, moreso if the Companies are taking subsidies from the Government.

[@Victor-056]

@@swecreationsThe only one "Low Educated" Here is you. They changed the policy shortly after the Documentry came out, mainly because they were called out.

[@MysteriousDrJ]

Big car companies like fords major income streams are from selling service/spare parts of older ford models, and I imagine probably would not be in favour of this rule. I'm sure their influence would make it harder for politicians to enforce this surely??

[@hansgunther5582]

Hey does anybody have the original source where this article has been published? Did not find anything in the description.

[@rzu1474]

It's fake

[@Tore_Lund]

That is going to kill off the auto repair industry aswell.

[@AnthonyJones-vk6xq]

They don't care....

[@sullivan912]

Or create a new underground one.

[@Tore_Lund]

@@sullivan912 Sure, but it is kind of hard to hide, you are fixing olds cars on the side in your EV repairshop? As is said in the video, this is only a proposal, and those usually get severely diluted before they become law. Germany is going to protest for more reasons.

[@tommo715]

I've said for a while now that the powers at be don't want the general public on the road, we are heading back to the 1920's where only the rich and privileged have their own transport, the rest of us will be on public transport, cycles or on foot, ideally doffing our caps as they motor by. It's all about control. You talk sensible stuff Geoff, keep it up

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

You do realise there was no such proposal from the EU, right?

[@seredachan]

eh, it's still like in your 1920s in most of the world, nothing makes a difference anymore..

[@johnmcmenemy3864]

Saw this start happening around 2008 ... the signs are always there in advance. Same with covid..called it in 2011

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

@@johnmcmenemy3864 no, you didn't. And you saw what starting happen exactly? There is nothing to see as this news is not true and was already proven not true about one month ago. What you see is nothing but an ill informed guy repeating what he saw online without checking if it was true

[@kapioskapiopoylos7338]

It is about the elites, them having a fleet of 2M€ cars while you have a 1999 corola is not enough of a difference of wealth to them. You need to be a homeless, posessionless slave that will be thankfull eatting their garbage to survive, and that only if you behave properly.

[@paulw1128]

5:15 this is why it's important to read the details, not the sensational headlines. I would (generously) read "Cut and welded" as cut & shut vehicles - but I am _intentionally_ taking an overly positive spin on this to make a contrast

[@agoogleuser6030]

I'd say they put it in for a reason mate. Replacing just a rear quarter requires to cut and weld: so, off to the scrapper.

[@andymoore9977]

We live in a very rural area. We do under 1000 miles a year. We already pay a premium for road tax - we need 4x4 because of the roads. This is all crazy. We live miles from the shops, hospitals etc. but only travel when necessary. There is no public transport option.

[@goldilocks913]

Every time I posted a comment warning about the banning of ICE vehicles ( mainly in a motorcycle context) I was greeted with ‘Calm down, you will still have your toys, they aren’t banning older ones’ I bet the same people will still not get it. 🙄

[@09simid]

If this insanity goes through, the black market for repairs will be insane. Like a dystopian world

[@big0bad0brad]

Heh anyone that hasn't watched the movie Brazil probably should

[@affieuk]

How would they police this, lots of people repair their cars. There are small garages and plenty of smaller cow boys to boot. Doesn't seem enforceable on a practical level. Either way, stuff em.

[@MrJ183]

​@@affieuktechnology will alert authorities if tampered with, nissan can tell when yoir having intimacy when in your vehicles by collecting data as per their privacy policy

[@paulsawczyc5019]

@@affieuk Make parts unavailable.

[@iPuls3]

@@MrJ183 Can just claim you were modding your vehicle, as that's not illegal yet.

[@debbiebermudez5890]

Mr. B. Here ! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸 👀😎👍 Just like he in the States, I see you guys have the same ( B.S. ) Brother you are right on your statement ! This also call controls on how we live our , plus some of these folks have no real life , so by telling others how to live. Most new vehicles are garbage to much teach in vehicles and people stupid. Good luck because we here lost jobs and skills causing less jobs .

[@andrewcalvert2013]

I ran Capris for 20 years, had a massive stockpile of parts! Everything was fixable and done within an hour and a BIG hammer, lol! Nowadays? Nothing wrong with the engine/drivetrain... sensors! Nothing wrong mechanically, just sensors .............

[@tomsurrey2252]

Tell the EU to piss off!

[@DwaynePipes]

We did! Several years ago. Why is Geoff even reading this non-news item? Somebody please tell him that we aren't in the EU any more! I think he may have lost the plot!😂

[@jevmobile]

Piss of and crumble. The eu is a mess and we did well to leave.

[@bentullett6068]

Farmers in Europe currently doing that in a brilliant way.

[@DwaynePipes]

@@jevmobile Absolutely, so why do you think Geoff is harping on about what is essentially a non issue for us? They way he was presenting it looked like we were going to be hit with this! I'm confused....or maybe he is?😂

[@jevmobile]

@@DwaynePipes well my 911 isn’t going any where I’ll fix it my self

[@annebell6428]

Good morning Geoff, I absolutely agree, the motoring organisations are not showing any support for motorists. Not in the ludicrous push to EVs, the madness of LTNs or indeed the faux air pollution charges to drive in parts of the country. My 17 year old LandRover Freelander2 has fortunately avoided the London ULEZ costs so far, as its petrol, (however I do have to pay a fortune for insurance). This proposed new attack on older vehicles in the EU for now, is just another facet of the drive to abolish personal car ownership and I for one am sick of it. ALL motorists need to wake up before it’s too late!

[@a64738]

Motoring organisations stopped working for the people about 20 years ago, they now like the main stream media and everyone else at the top is working for the 0,1% hyper rich and their "the great reset".

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Read 'Pistonheads' recently? They all seem to hate cars and freedom now.

[@stephenfennell]

What are LTNs?

[@oojimmyflip]

Low Traffic Networks, where have you been under a rock?@@stephenfennell

[@duncanbuchanan218]

What motoring organisations? RAC & AA stopped representing motorists decades ago. There are some small ones, but they have not gained much traction other than Fair Fuel who have lobbied very successfully on limiting fuel duty increases.

[@josefmuller86]

I know a guy working in the EU admin, he says that the EU Parliament plans say that 40% of current vehicles won't get replaced but ofc they won't say it publicly

[@cambrowheels]

Well..., we had a good run, I parked my Burner rods 3 years ago. Now I just enjoy them for the work of art they are. I found a love for micro mobility and reconnecting with nature. I do not drive unless the one car i keep up is the proper tool for the job. Personal Electric vehicles can do 95% of all personal transport needs. I recommend EUC to those who are brave and want to be free. Enjoy the Ride!

[@bornagainspirit]

These people are out off their evil minds. Absolutely, mad!

[@alanfrost4661]

Its to make you buy over priced useless EV that they probably have shares in

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

No they are not. Do you know why? Because there was no such proposal. This was dismissed as false in January. Unless...unless if "by this people" you are talking about KZbinrs and their followers who don't do their proper research and believe everything they read, even when it is written by Joe next door and not by a real journalist....

[@patrickcannell2258]

As stupid as the American EPA!!

[@LobotomyTC]

@@TheAllMightyGodofCod If you think that this won't be attempted every couple of years until the end of time, then you truly are as fluoridated as you sound. "DEBOONKED! DEBOONKED!" Go fuck yourself mate.

[@kevxsi16v]

@@TheAllMightyGodofCodthey are still evil unelected scrotums.

[@keithhooper6123]

As the owner of a 17 year old car,and 20 year old truck,both less then 50,000 miles,doing under ten thousand miles per year,total,I see my motoring as the most environmentally friendly.The least friendly,scrapping ,buying new.

[@mikewillett5076]

It's all about control, under the guise of "saving the environment".

[@spankeyfish]

@@mikewillett5076 It's a desperate attempt to prop up the German car industry.

[@Faygo2215]

I’d ask how’d you manage that but then I realize most countries aren’t America.

[@redemptionjack4657]

You will still be able to repair it they are talking about cars basicaly held together by bungee cords like what you see in Russia. Second those vehicles they actualy prefue people to preserve and use them it is only targeted at con dealers and con men who sell nearly working near beyond tepair cars that the frame is damges or the bloc is cracked. However IF one was to restore them then the car would still be legal to sell it is very complex and even the Eu is certain it won't pass don't worry.

[@keithhooper6123]

@@redemptionjack4657 not worried,UK not in the EU,and doubt the EU will last much longer

[@michaelwitas9482]

From what I can tell from looking at information on the internet, even R10's exported to the US had the fuel filler located inside the engine compartment. I'm surprised that they passed US safety standards. I think 1971 was the last year the R10 was sold here.

[@Lonner_Br]

I can tell Denmark which I live is the member of EU and this is going to affect my dream of owning very good old-school taste car and being forced of buying overpriced and headache experience EV car. This is just sad for the reality

[@peefor135]

Although we are no longer in the EU, these ideas a re bound to appeal to the UK politicians.

[@Bigheadcase]

Think bigger than the EU, think communism on a global scale

[@scaryfakevirus]

What I said too.

[@cedhome7945]

Who will have a golden ticket to keep there cars ....

[@trulymental7651]

​@@cedhome7945 I will give you 3 guesses 😆

[@user-vv9zo4sc4k]

The climate communists need to be put back in their box , their passion for power and control will end when the people get a back bone and tell them we ain’t taking any more of their climate BS. I will not conform to there ideas and mandates , start making a noise people

[@craigbevan8307]

The straw that broke the camel's back, is not that far away now.

[@bernardlandymore7372]

The camel has had a bad back for years.

[@Eric_Hunt194]

At this point, the camel is only good for sausages

[@Freeontheland2030]

By the time the "camel" wakes up to his broken back he will find he has been delimbed and his head is off.

[@AB-C1]

THEY WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO ENFORCE ANY LAW THATS UNJUST/UNLAWFUL! AND THAT WOULD BE BOTH!

[@robertapenay]

Austin Rover had been doing that 3 year life of cars for decades, it was in the manufacturers mantra

[@grande_007]

It’s disturbing that using what is already available cannot be viewed as being greener than making a new vehicle. However, I wouldn’t panic. The EU is beyond arrogant if it thinks it will still exist by 2050. Most of their politicians could be considered ‘residual’.

[@user-zy2sk6kc9v]

The EU IS WRITING ITS OWN DEMISE .But most politicians do

[@kurtvanluven9351]

Interesting the folk that call people Nazis have no clue that Hitler wanted Europe under tyranny. They did it FOR him.

[@MrThewillows]

totally agree. the way our so called elites are behaving, they could be in for quite a shock when society turns on them. No amount of money will save them or bodyguards by their side if the bodygurads themselves cant feed their family.

[@benholroyd5221]

Well depending on your mileage, it isn't necessarily greener. of course this assumes the replacement car is more efficient, and as we havent actually phased out evs, and evs don't make up a majority of the market, that by no means is a certainty.

[@avatar9520202]

I collect and drive old SAABs, and use 20-year-old SAAB 9-3 as a daily driver. The last time I was to CT (I think it’s called MOT on the other side of the channel) the technician was amazed. He literally said “This car is in better condition and runs cleaner than any 3-year-old Renault I have seen lately”. And I run it on E85 so it is even more “ecological”. Two weeks ago, my sister was driving my SAAB and get into really serious incident without ANY injuries (unlike the people from the other cars). After 300 euros in parts and two week-ends of work my SAAB is back on the road, the other two cars (Peugeot and Citroen) have to be scrapped. So, the EU can take my SAABs only over my dead body!

[@rioblyth3926]

Exactly! Saabs are dwindling in numbers as it is, we need to keep the oldies going

[@lsswappedcessna]

The swedes built them like tanks. I really want an old Saab or Volvo, they just keep running.

[@alexdeadeye6905]

CT.... , you must be french then ;) On my nearly 1/2million km volvo i failed CT because of one bad balljoint. 30€ part and 1h work in my driveway later.... CT good for 2 more years.

[@Slazlo-Brovnik]

No Problem and no need for your dead bodies. There are no plans of the EU to "ban repairs" of older cars. There have been published some Quotations out of context context, suitably shortened by interested parties, but thats about it.

[@avatar9520202]

@@Slazlo-Brovnik I really hope that you are right and I am wrong, but my experience so far shows that if the EU bureaucrats have the possibility to do something extremely stupid - they will ALWAYS find a way to do it.

[@youxanyou]

I had to scrap a rare 90s car because I had to leave my storage unit. Try to sell it for half the price from what Ive been offered from the scrapman but noone interested. The scrapman offered me 350 and I thought was going for parts, so at least other owners will benefit keep their cars running. When the pickup driver turned up, which drove more than 25 miles each way, told me that the car was going straight into the shredder. I was gutted, but was too late to back up. Doesn't make any sense to me how they can make profit out of it just from the scrap metal, more likely are interested to terminate the life of older cars.

[@theamazinggoldfish8713]

So glad I've got my Subie in manual transmission.

[@HarryLime49]

We can all see the enemy. Time to ask yourself if you are fighting them and if you're not, why not?

[@barryjones872]

How about scrapping private jets and copters !!!!!!

[@farmercolm8157]

and super yachts.

[@75OldsNinetyEight]

Sorry the draconian regs only apply to the peasant class

[@kimeldiin1930]

Already in 1977 Gary Zukaw made it blatantly clear that we have to repair instead of building new in order to maintain our planet !! The book is Enthrophy , it is most enlightening !!! As far as I know the laws of physics have not changed since 1977!!

[@brentwestbrook]

I have a 25 year old camper. Well maintained with just little bits done here and there. So no major repairs just maintained. It's in lovely condition with just 118,000 on the clock. Loads of life left in it. And many happy times.

[@TheAllMightyGodofCod]

Just to be clear, this was already dismissed in January as not true. I really don't know why this guy is talking about this almost a month after that....

[@Lynnfield3440]

​@@TheAllMightyGodofCodthank God, all of our cars are 15 years old or way older. And no way we can afford the 30-40K we would need at minimum for 2 new cars (or 20K for 2 used ones). And I also don't really want to either. One of our cars has 408000 KM on the odometer, and I want to make it as high as I can while keeping the car in peak condition.

[@thatguyoverthere9634]

​@@TheAllMightyGodofCod it's going to come up again and again, probably annually. It's a proposal that will never go away because it's being lobbied by EU auto manufacturers. The only reason it won't pass is because the wealthy lawmakers don't want to have to scrap their expensive classic cars and the ones all their friends own.

[@BoredLikeHelI]

​@@TheAllMightyGodofCod"Residual vehicles would refer to those that suffer breakdowns related to parts such as the engine, transmission, brakes, steering wheel and chassis, and that are about 15 years old. Many people have said that the European Union wants to prohibit the repair of such vehicles. However, the European Commission denied this report on its X social media page. The post explains that one objective of the new regulation is to facilitate the repair of old vehicles in a more sustainable and responsible way. However, it also explains that there will be certain types of engines that cannot be repaired. On the other hand, in cases where the owner of a car categorized as a residual vehicle wants to sell it, the car could be considered to be at the end of its useful life. As such, it should be taken to a junkyard. When a car cannot be repaired The Commission’s text, which still has to be approved, explains the cases in which a vehicle is considered to be an end-of-life car. A vehicle will be considered irreparable when any of its components cannot be repaired or replaced. Likewise, if its structural elements have irreversible technical defects, the car would be considered irreparable. Described in the appendices of the text, these measures are intended to prevent abuses in the secondhand market by limiting attempts to sell end-of-life cars. Many of these sales contribute to increasing road accidents and pollution levels by continuing to keep excessively old and poorly repaired vehicles in circulation." Fucking EU apologist. They will ABSOLUTELY do it.

[@BuggyGamer-db6mw]

@@TheAllMightyGodofCod Yeah, i´ve been reading some of the directive and some people here are dumb AF

[@cornishhh]

Spain has six monthly MOTs for vehicles over a certain age. Also, IIRC, for many years Spain has banned the sale or reconditioning, of old marine engines. I'm sure people do it, but it has meant that it's become hard to get parts for them. Some European countries (Germany is one) have limited use "Classic plates" for older cars. In Malta in order to get a cheap classic plate the car has to be completely original. In Greece you can't reregister an old car once it's road tax has run out and not been renewed. None of this is really about green issues. It's about subsidising big manufacturers at the expense of small repair businesses. IMO it's essentially about removing the ability of individuals to be independent and self reliant.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

It's about making our life difficult. That is the aim.

[@KittyCatMeowMeowTime]

I've never owned a car younger than 15 years old. The newest car I've owned was an 05 Corolla.

[@doithimaceabhard7457]

Yeah that's kinda sad... There will always be a place for veteran and vintage cars but thinking we are going to continue in the same old transport models is a bit thick at this stage of the 21st century.

[@stevecohen8206]

It’s getting worse. How is this not news worthy of a Panorama type journalist investigation!😡

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

Blimey you still have aTV!

[@Eric_Hunt194]

Panorama will only do features on things that the powers that be are happy with. Remember the Savile cover-up?

[@TheRealWindlePoons]

It is too close to the politically unpopular truth for the BBC to be allowed to cover the story.

[@AR-dn6kh]

Pamaroma and the BBC are only interested in criminals being mistreated by police and when they are in prison.

[@brendanpells912]

The motor industry in the UK has the SMMT to lobby on its behalf. All they're interested in is selling new cars, and it would be their wet dream for every car to be scrapped after 3 years. Where is the lobby group representing motorists?

[@johnmoncrieff3034]

The AA & RAC are no-longer for the motorist but are now insurance scammers just like AVIVA etc.

[@G-ra-ha-m]

Forums like pistonheads. They are busy pushing EVs, war and draconian fines.

[@gimble447]

The two of them ( AA and RAC) changed sides ages ago, we need a new voice for sure 👌

[@scorchedearth1451]

I drive a Kia Sorento from 2008. A month ago it needed new brake disks, brake pads, tires, and several other parts. I consider them normal wear and tear parts which you need to change anyway. I think a new brake disk or tire is a repair. It costed me over 2000 €, but my car is like new. I expect it to last longer from now on than any EV. I'm the only one who decides if a repair is economically reasonable.

[@danielc3003]

Old is Gold! I drive a 1998 Town and country that just turned 400,000.00 miles. It has prevented the need to manufacture 2 or 3 cars and is very bad for greedy corporations. Not to mention that I can "recharge" it to its 400 mile plus range in 5 minutes! I repair it myself and do not rely on a corrupt system.

[@beaujohnson2021]

Nice to find a based car channel. My wife and I both drive old Volvo 240s. The purest form of environmental preservation is to keep your old "junk" on the road. Production of new automobiles is the least eco-friendly part of the process.

[@joshuakhaos4451]

people go on and on about the huge amount of carbon and energy that it makes to make things, but then completely discount that subject when they attack old products that people keep running and using as opposed to producing more and more emissions constantly buying new and "efficient" products every few years. Sure an old and out dated car is more polluting than a new car, but overall how many people daily cars above 20-40 years old? Not many. And the bulk of their emmisions was produced decades ago. its broken even or still not produced more emission's than what it took to build due to it being used left or someone preserving it as a fun car. Let alone having had the owner modified it and updated the engine and whatnot. Besides. Stuff like Washing machines and other appliances in homes may be more efficient, but they dont last that long now and in some cases perform worse than the old ones. Dryers in particular suck ass now. Ive had to dry some loads 2 or 3 times to dry them completely, but growing up in the 90s and early 2000s. My parents old dryer dried it in one go because it produced a lot of heat. It would heat up the laundry room a bit, but I had dry clothes in one go. not 2 or 3 attempts at 20-30 minutes a try.

[@lawrenceholden5716]

​@@joshuakhaos4451 Agree and old cars still have to pass an annual mot which includes emissions so they meet the same standards as the newer ones which have a lot more unnecessary and distracting kit mainly included to go expensively wrong about the time the warranty expires. Time to wake up to these deceptions before it's too late.

[@spankeyfish]

There's a growing number of small companies developing drop in kits so you can electrify old and classic cars.

[@markmmm1737]

I would love a Fleet of old cars. I would love be happy(ish) to modify them to make them more environmentally friendly. There isn't much stopping the industry making a universal catalytic converter for pre cat cars or the diesel exhaust recirculation system. Both won't be perfect but are a help.

[@breckfreeride]

It's never been about the environment, it's about control.

[@newsoftheday420]

Your lives, your children, your booze, your coffee, your meat, your cars, they want it all removed..

[@johnlesoudeur3653]

WEF described it as "the Useless Class"...so do not need these humans anymore.

[@sirrathersplendid4825]

@@johnlesoudeur3653- I think that was Harari, the author. The WEF ‘intellectuals’ are taking a lot of their cues from him. Used to think he was quite clever but he’s turning into a real piece of work.

[@johnmoncrieff3034]

The want to kill off 4 billion of the population by 2050! All what they refer to as useless feeders. Or those who do not contribute to their wealth! This is the stated aim of the WEF, straight out of the mouth of KLAUS SCHWAB himself!

[@WillyEckaslike]

dont worry because by the time this hits home most people who had the jibby will be brown bread

[@meekdook4236]

Why are we not removing them?

[@kaba_me]

These are just silly proposals by lobbyists and will NEVER become law in the EU or anywhere else.

[@helenlloyd6564]

I am a car enthusiast. I own a stunning 54 year old Bentley T1 1970. I own an attractive 24 year old Jaguar XJ8. I also own a 25 year old mega reliable ultra luxury 200,000 mile beautiful Lexus 300gs. All 3 in excellent condition. I thought we were no longer dictated to by the E.U. 😮Why are we still under E.U. laws, rules and regulations??.

[@mk6315]

Because the men behind the curtain want you powerless and overrun by migrants

[@garybulwinkle82]

They will never go away! The elites want their power back and are sick of the pesky middle class! In their New World Order there will be the aristocracy and the peasants (you)!!

[@lauralauren6432]

You Never Left. Got that yet?

[@BigDaddyButthead90]

​@@lauralauren6432I can't believe people actually believe we left the EU either

[@sarahann530]

​@@lauralauren6432 Boris lied to you

[@beaujohnson2021]

In the US the catalytic converter theft was getting so bad that certain models were becoming "Totalled" by the fact that the cat would cost 3x what the car was worth. In most major cities (where the thieves are) emissions tests are required to register your car. When one of my clients would get their cat stolen, I would weld a pipe in, put a spacer under the downstream 02S, then basically tell them to drive the car with expired tags. Registration tickets don't give you points, just a fine. You could get 50+ registration tickets before exceeding the cost of a catalytic converter.

[@calvinlomax9546]

If your car is not road legal though won't it invalidate your insurance

[@LobotomyTC]

Ew, imagine living in a major city like some kind of bug. My exhaust system ends at the header. God Bless actual (rural) America.

[@francoistombe]

Won't work in my area. Unregistered car is illegal on public roads. They get towed to impound lots. Mega bucks in charges and it won't be released until registered. And then you have two weeks to get emission clearance.

[@SenileOtaku]

Catalytic converters were a short-term solution which should have been replaced 30 or so years ago. They were meant to reduce emissions until more efficient engines could be built, or cleaner-burning fuels. But the automakers got lazy and didn't want to spend the time and money to develop something better.

[@beaujohnson2021]

depends on the municipality. most places require insurance to register a car, not the other way around. @@calvinlomax9546

[@jcgdijkstra]

How in the hell am I supposed to write of €40k in 3 years 😂😂😂. Oh and I have to scrap my old gas boiler too and pull like €15k out of my ass for some heatpump thing 🤣🤣🤣. The EU is completely INSANE.

[@dennisku3709]

They want control partially because anytime the general public screws something up the people look at the government and ask "Why didn't you do something about it?" This is what they'll do about it... It's a tough balance.

[@tweed532DaveH]

Does that mean I can use pop rivet or self tappers to hold the nearside sill on my 1980 Mini 1000HL instead of welding? This weekends job.... More worrying is the thought of how they would monitor it, no longer private individuals allowed to purchase spare parts, only Commercial Government approved repair centres, through 'Official Government Suppliers'? Glad I'm 71 and enjoyed 'motoring' as a hobby throughout my life.

[@airplanenut89]

There are adhesives that when set form a bond stronger than can be stronger than the steel around it. Regulation didn't say anything about gluing it back.