Grace As A Gift

[@mickeyfoeller771]

After over 30 yrs in a 5-pt.Calvinistic church, we finally caught on to what was actually being taught us @ TULIP, so we had a meeting with that pastor where we discussed that doctrine. I asked him point blank, Do you believe Romans 1:16? His answer was NO. We were shocked, we said goodbye after that meeting, and haven't been back. That was almost 7 yrs ago. I still can't believe he said no, but it makes sense now, bc you can't believe the Bible AND believe Calvinism, when it comes to how God saves people. Praise God we stumbled upon some you tubes on how to rightly divide through a Pauline understanding of Scripture. Thank you for your ministry!

[@5olas]

Hallelujah!

[@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445]

You are completely blind, lost., deceived, Biblically illiterate, and steeped in darkness and deception. Repent!

[@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445]

@@5olas ,..You as well. Repent!

[@lynnewilley9464]

Wow that's shocking he said no to Romans 1:16..he will have to then deal with Romans 2:16..unless I have misunderstood. Glad you left, hope others did too

[@ArelR]

Everyone is "calvinist" to some extent. When someone contends that God has "known" every absolute event from the beginning of time then they do not understand "free will." They neither understand why God created us (originally) in His image and likeness. Why would a God who "always knew" repent of creating man on the earth? Just sayin'. All praise and glory to our holy God who desires our seeking hearts. Proverbs 9:10

[@5olas]

These teachings are well done and necessary. Thank you.

[@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445]

This is all false teaching from a false teacher who does not understand the Bible. Repent!

[@TimisZeal]

@@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445shew fly

[@lynnewilley9464]

Ok that was SO SO good teaching!!!...actually had to slow the speed down to get it at my brain speed on some things..thank you more than words for discerning dispensations for me to understand rightly those things I question!! Makes sense now! Praise God!

[@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445]

You are being deceived. This is all false teaching.

[@lynnewilley9464]

​@@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445well if you are beheaded no wonder you'd answer my post like that

[@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445]

@@lynnewilley9464 ,...The few actual Christians that exist have been beheaded in that their voice of Biblical truth is not heard in the church. The only thing not allowed in everything called the church is the actual truth of the Bible. First off, your (the apostate churches) freewill gospel is a manmade fraud. It is another gospel and is the gospel of the accursed. Second, what the lost call "Calvinism" is the truth, the gospel, and the Christianity of the Bible. Everything else is false manmade unbiblical nonsense. Third, just because a church claims to understand Calvinism or be Calvinist means nothing. They are only claiming they know what the Gospel is. It is no different than a church claiming that they understand Jesus was God. This is good and only means they have understood one Biblical truth. They have to also understand everything else correctly. And no church does this.

[@I_belong_to_Jesus_Christ]

Thank you 😊

[@jafojafo5412]

2 Cor 5:18-20. The issue is not sin. All our sin has been forgiven at the cross and God reconciled us to himself. The salvation issue is believing by faith what Christ accomplished and by His work are standing with God

[@mitchelldouglas9616]

So would we do well that when the owner of the field find you so working on that day. So you may find favor of the Lord. God takes care of those that are his... Yet if he find you not, then will you have case made against you for an answer. Truly only those doing wrong have anything to worry.

[@jeremyjenningsjjj]

some people just don't want to accept responsibility for there own sin..

[@5olas]

Bingo

[@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445]

And some people want to take the responsibility the credit, and the glory for their salvation. Your manmade freewill gospel is a 100% fraud. It is another gospel, and it the false manmade gospel of the accursed. You have all been deceived. Repent!

[@Over-for-now]

lF you think you chose to be saved you ARE arrogant God must save some because NONE seek after God

[@turkwelsch]

You are arrogant if you think God chose you to be saved and not some others! I have yet to find a Calvinist that doesn’t believe that they are the elect, why is this? ARROGANCE?!!!!

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

​@@turkwelsch Proverbs 16:4; Isaiah 29:15; John 1:13; John 3:7-8; John 6:28-29: Romans 8:29; Ephesians 2:8-9 need some more? Not even mentioning Romans 9. Arrogance, Okay? WHOSE arrogance, to NOT believe what God said?

[@turkwelsch]

@@Corinna_Schuett_GER I didn’t need to go past your first scripture To see your arrogance. Of course you’re not that wicked person are you?!

[@Over-for-now]

@@turkwelsch l was saved VERY Very young because I knew l was lost and needed a Saviour. As l grew in the Lord Jesus Christ and understood HIS claims and HIS wonderful FINISHED work for salvation --- l TRULY knew that HE in pure mercy chose to awaken my heart to be saved. NONE seek after God and lF you refuse to come because you resent election THAT is REBELLION

[@beheadedforthewitnesofjesu3445]

@@Over-for-now ,....Correct! Those that have been snared into the apostate churches manmade freewill gospel are arrogant and are boasting, they have stolen Gods glory and are an abomination to God. They think they have saved themselves by their wills and their works of believing/repenting/accepting/decision making/etc. "Not of works, lest any man should boast." Ephesians 2:9 KJV

[@jalynnkarlie5542]

🌺 "Promosm"

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

I have myself experienced irresistible grace of God some 18 years ago and I still praise HIM for that! If you want to mock Calvinism about that plain biblical TRUTH, I will respond like the blind man in John 9:25 to you, "One thing I know, that, whereas I was blind, now I see." 🙏

[@lynnewilley9464]

Did you hear the gospel and believe it? Or were you elected?

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

@@lynnewilley9464 I was chosen to be saved and to believe at a certain point in my life, obviously. My personal story goes like Isaiah 65:1 *"I am sought of them that asked not for me; I am found of them that sought me not:* I said, Behold me, behold me, unto a nation that was not called by my name." and also like the healing of the *blind man in John 9* who even only recognized Jesus much later than he was actually healed. Being confronted with the sickness and death of a child, God would draw me near Christ by some Christian writings on the internet, I especially remember the book "Think Biblically" by John MacArthur and others. In German, it is another title like "Transformed thinking" so it doesn't mention the Bible in the title. While reading, I could feel like my eyes opened to another reality (of Gods perspective) which has never changed since. This was a process of several weeks so I cannot remember the very day I was born in the Spirit in 2005. I took our wedding bible from the shelf (dusty!) and opened the book of Job. That was the first book I really read through at that time and suddenly understood. Make of it what you will in your anticalvinist doctrine. I have experienced irresistible grace and God will always prove it in my heart, even if I am the only one on earth He would do so. Some time later, my husband was also saved. God would touch his heart at the grave of this girl (not ours) being asked as casket bearer by her father. He wondered what had happened to me but we talked and followed Christ together since.

[@ginaidoma5925]

We live in the Age of Grace. Grace is given to ALL. Universalism is wrong.....not everyone is saved, but everyone does have forgiveness of sin in this Age of Grace. The question people must ask themselves. Do you think that you are saved BY WHAT YOU DO? Are you a co-redeemer of yourself due to what YOU DO. Do you know that when you say that forgiveness of sin is only accomplished IF you believe...you are making YOURSELF a co-redeemer. Salvation is through CHRIST'S FINISHED WORK....not by what you do. Christ died for the sins OF THE WHOLE WORLD. If Christ died for ALL SINS...this includes the sins OF THE UNSAVED. A person isn't magically saved by believing they were forgiven their sins at the moment they believed.....This would infer that Christ would have to die EVERY TIME there was a new believer. Rom 5:6-10 For when we were yet without strength, in due time Christ died for the ungodly. For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life. Christ died ONCE for ALL SINS. A person is saved by putting their trust IN THE FINISHED WORK OF JESUS CHRIST. When did Christ finish His Work? (the sacrificial atonement)....was it the moment you believe or was it 2,000 years ago at the cross? Christ died for the UNGODLY. Christ died for us WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS. WHEN WE WERE ENEMIES, WE WERE RECONCILED TO GOD by the death of his Son. Do these scriptures sound to you like the unsaved have no forgiveness of sin? To state that there is no forgiveness of sin for an unbeliever, states that Christ's finished work on the cross was not good enough to save anyone. Christ does not die for your sins the moment you believe. He died for all sins 2,000 years ago. An unsaved person does NOT pay for their own sin....otherwise Christ did not die for all sin. So why do unsaved people go to Hell? It is because a saved person has CHRIST'S IMPUTED RIGHTEOUSNESS which allows a person to go to Heaven. An unsaved person does NOT HAVE IMPUTED RIGHTOUSNESS. Only a righteous person can go to Heaven. ONLY JESUS IS RIGHTEOUS. Jesus only imputes righteousness to those who trust in His finished work of the cross. Grace is that Christ died for all, so that all who trust in WHAT CHRIST DID, are saved. That is the gift of God. Grace is UNMERITED FAVOR. IF only believers were given Grace....that would NOT BE GRACE....it would then be merited favor.

[@dennisklopper1818]

Very well said 👍

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

I do agree until the last paragraph with some illogical thought. Of course "ONLY believers" are forgiven because they are NOT "working" on their belief but it is also GIVEN to them BY GRACE of God. The disciples already asked in John 6:28-29 "Then said they unto him, What shall we DO, that we might WORK the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, *This is the WORK OF GOD, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."* Believers just DO NOTHING. GOD does. Ephesians 2:8-9 also says it loud and clear.

[@sirpaul5054]

Faith is not a work. But because you believe in Christ's finished work on the cross it will motivate your actions towards the things that please your Savior. It is not a work to believe that Christ died for your sins. You're just acknowledging what he did and giving him the glory for what that work. We give thanks for the free gift.

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

@@sirpaul5054 John 6:28-29 FAITH is a WORK but a work OF GOD. Just that simple and in scripture. Everything taught here just *confirms* Calvinist TRUTH even if Justin tries to mock it.

[@ginaidoma5925]

@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Sorry. You are mixing what Jesus taught BEFORE He died (which was only to Israel) and that which was preached by Paul AFTER He died (which was to the Body of Christ).

[@thurmanavent4640]

Gods people the Israelites and gentile will not be in the Gods kingdom there are 12 gates into heaven with the names on the gates for the 12 tribes of Israel the gentiles will drink of our cup of captivity slavery he that leads into captivity shall go into captivity God only gave his people the law without the law there is no grace Jesus has grace and mercy on his people if they break Gods commandant Jesus give this grace the gentile was never giving the commands of God only Gods people are under the laws of God if you are not under the law how can you break the law Jesus said I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel Matthew 15 23 Matthew 1 21 a son will be born to save his people of there sins this means giving mercy and grace to his people The Israelites

[@ginaidoma5925]

Israel is in a fallen position right now. There is no salvation through Israel until AFTER the Tribulation Period. Israel is lost.

[@kevkev1078]

This is a mid acts channel. We believe the scriptures and know how to rightly divide. This isn’t the weak Christian teachings you’re used to. Mid acts dispensationalist have a correct understanding on prophecy and mystery!

[@1korincanima151-4]

Samo spaseni danas nisu pod zakonom,jer je zakon bio nas cuvar dok ga Krist nije ispunio za nas,zakon danas ima drugu primjenu,a to je da te osudi,da shvatis da si grijesnik i da te dovede Kristu da shvatis da te jedino moze spasit Njegovo dovrseno djelo na krizu,1 Korincanima 15:1-4 i onda si mrtav za zakon,hodas u duhu u slobodi u Kristu,svi nespaseni su jos pod zakonom,jer ih zakon osudjuje.Izraelu je dat zakon da ga vrse i zive po njemu,ali ga nisu mogli ispunit pa je moralo doc nesto bolje,a to je Krist,zato treba znat pravilno razdvajat Rijec Istine u Pismu,2 Timoteju 2:15 KJV

[@Over-for-now]

You sound like a mocker!!! I'm not calvinist but I believe scripture. Read Isaiah 45 and then deny sovereignty.

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

Of course it is kind of hypocritical to preach sovereignty of God but deny simple Calvinist truth. I pray brother Justin will still come to understanding as he's such a brilliant mind and humble man of God. 🙏

[@ginaidoma5925]

@@Corinna_Schuett_GER Calvinism is a heretical belief system. The concept of TULIP is non-biblical. Total Depravity - Not true. Everyone knows the difference between good and evil and not everyone does evil all the time. Unconditional Election - The Elect have always been Israel. We today are not the elect. Limited Atonement - Biggest lie of all. Christ died for all...not some...but all. Irresistible Grace - Another lie. Grace is for all. Also denies man's FREE WILL. Free will is the right to choose. God did not make us robots with no free will. Perseverance of saints - Salvation can not be lost in this current Age of Grace....not even if a person rejects God once they were saved.

[@markrobertsministries]

Calvinism is an absolute heresy lady

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

@@markrobertsministries Yeah, of course. John 1:13 + 3:7-8; Romans 8:29; Ephesians 2:8-9 and many more like Proverbs 16:4 as well... All "heresy" Huh. Go away.

[@Over-for-now]

@@markrobertsministries l don't know if you were talking to me but lam NOT involved in calvin anymore then golf. I simply believe THAT NONE seek after God --- in our deadness we CANNOT come . God in mercy must choose --- HE does it ALL to HIS glory. He will not share HIS glory with you or me

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

Matthew 20:1-7 "For the kingdom of heaven is like unto *a man that is an HOUSEHOLDER,* which went out early in the morning to HIRE LABOURERS into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the THIRD HOUR, and saw others standing idle in the marketplace, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the SIXTH and NINTH HOUR, and did likewise. And about the ELEVENTH HOUR he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, WHY STAND YE HERE ALL THE DAY IDLE? They say unto him, *BECAUSE NO MAN HATH HIRED US.* He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive." Does THAT sound like sovereignty to you or not? I pray you might still come to understanding what irresistible GRACE is all about. 🙏

[@lynnewilley9464]

I think the parable is about works and I think it's for us all but specifically to Israel and gentiles who came last were given more merely by showing up and believing, not Working to merit but then again it's a parable so you can freely decide what it means and I could be way off!

[@Corinna_Schuett_GER]

@@lynnewilley9464 I was myself saved in the very last 11th hour when almost 40 years old (yet until today in 2023, there are still people saved in time). But I couldn't decide at what point in my life I would be born again, ONLY GOD can do this. Yes you're right there are SEVERAL aspects explained in the parable but I was now focused on the plain SOVEREIGNTY of the HOUSEHOLDER (God).