i'm really glad you mentioned "and if they're holding really tight, don't do anything. you dont escape when you want to you escape when you can" thats a nuggett right there
@arcadiandj17 жыл бұрын
Excellent video instruction. A great image/perspective with good audio. Great detail. KZbin's best imho.
@lyricallyundefined17 жыл бұрын
I think I would kinda know. Rener trained me in BJJ 2 and 1/2 years back. I use to go to the old Gracie academy in Torrance before they moved to Artesia right next to Onami (seafood restaurant buffet place). And I remember seeing Ryron a couple of tiems in the academy while I attended so yeah.
@qazmko22 Жыл бұрын
truly great teachers
@RightWingCon8116 жыл бұрын
awesome post, awesome point, EVERY overall ADCC winner has had extensive training in BJJ. NICE!
@fatman10017 жыл бұрын
You guys rule .Keep it up!!! What you do is appreciated.Thanks
@tjo198413 жыл бұрын
Great lineage, great teaching. Definitely keeping it real.
@Zenitself7 жыл бұрын
Back when Ryron and Rener only had a Potato to record with.
@MrAlcazar1310 жыл бұрын
I'm going to try this thanks for posting just what I needed to see.. There's a savage man that's huge and I can never get him off me from side control first dont let him get to that position duh next time ima just relax there if he does and don't do nothing until he attacks then I get space to move him back into guard perfect man!
@KingColt198517 жыл бұрын
Good basic escape, but watch out for the brabo while shrimping
@RightWingCon8116 жыл бұрын
THis one response will address all 3 of your posts. The Gracies have never denied that their art comes from japan, they just point out, and rightly so, that they have emphasized ground fighting and their techniques and movements are unique to ground fighting. THat's all, if Judo is so great, then why is it that few UFC guys use Judo? And if they do they ALSO supplement that with BJJ? They're different, perhaps not VERY different, but different.
@fatmelonn13 жыл бұрын
"You don't escape when you wanna escape, you escape when you can" priceless!
@yonnihils2 жыл бұрын
Is Ryron wearing a DJ Qbert Thud Rumble patch on the leg of his gi???
@HughSlaman13 жыл бұрын
Much respect to the Gracie family as a whole, and to Rener and Ryron Gracie in particular. After watching this, I am not sure I like the idea that you should just not do anything when under a tight sidemount. The bad guy's face is so lose to yours in that position. What is to stop him from biting you while you wait for your chance to escape? And what is the Jiu Jitsu response to such biting? I am really curious about the answers to these questions...
@wrestler-kickboxer25247 жыл бұрын
HughSlaman bite him back. When someones biting u they're vulnerable to getting hit in the face.
@MrPotatoesLatkie17 жыл бұрын
Yes, basics like the triangle, the arm bar, etc. Learn all the "advanced" techniques you want, but BJJ is about doing the basics and, winning with the basics.
@RightWingCon8116 жыл бұрын
Matt Hughes CLEARLY used Gracie Jiujitsu to win that fight. Arm bars, ground control, he was just better that night at the BJJ. As Helio Gracie wrote, "Royc lost but jiujitsu won".
@lyricallyundefined17 жыл бұрын
Ryron looks like he's been pumping alot of iron. Rener you look more toned than ever. I'm guessing your getting ready to fight in a light or whelter (sorry misspelled) weight class? Or along that range? Tell me when you guys have your first NHB fight, and I'll try to show up. It's been a while since I've been to the academy.
@sharkfinnigan13 жыл бұрын
@HughSlaman if someone tries to bite you then they probably dont know what they are doing, if they bite you, break something of theirs, or put them to sleep then break something of theirs, when you train gjj you are trained to terribly mame people, it can be an injury they carry for the rest of their life, they wont bite you after that
@GracieGoldsboro17 жыл бұрын
lost in space can focus on whatever he wants but the bottom line is that if you watch the ufc or the mundials or the pan ams or adcc what are 99% of the matches won with? basics that you learn in your first year of training
@shinjukool16 жыл бұрын
indeed; hats off to them for mass-marketing Japanese jujutsu newaza and no doubt putting their own spin on some of it.
@aper42211 жыл бұрын
they train against punches on the ground like a real street fight not for points. i wish i lived near the gracie academy....
@shinjukool16 жыл бұрын
all in Judo as well (from kobudo jujutsu ryuha). sankakujime .... uh, gee that means triangle choke. oh you mean this wasnt all invented in Brasil?
@cryingindian16 жыл бұрын
in my opinion, judo and bjj are both one persons take on a style to make it their own, judo was kano, bjj was gracie. they are both as valid as each other. but i disagree that anything is a certain styles move, u said trying bjj moves at home. its the approach to applying these moves that differs, as they both have diff ideas on what a win is. I do plain old ju jitsu and i feel both are far too concerned with a single dimension, but thts just cuz i hav diff priorities than full grapplers
@RightWingCon8113 жыл бұрын
@ValkyereHowie How many fights have you been in? I know in REAL fights I've been in, I feel little to no pain because of adrenaline. I'm not special, I'm not super human, I'm normal, most people can take a lot of abuse in a "life or death" fight. That's why Helio promoted chokes to armlocks, because a guy can still fight with a broken arm, but no one can fight after being knocked out with a choke.
@RightWingCon8113 жыл бұрын
@disturbed157 hwne I used the term UFC I used it as an umbrella term for all MMA. You knew that, you just want to knit pick. Second, I love Judo, I do judo, but it is different from GJJ/BJJ which was my point. And MMA is a good place to look when seeing if a style will work or not, why? Because it is a public forum with few rules. I have no real evidence that kung fu works in a real fight, there are no collections of it doing so.
@GracieGoldsboro16 жыл бұрын
if you are carrying a gun and have the distance to shoot then you don't need jiu-jitsu! but what happens if you get taken down and are getting your face beat in? are you going to bite the guy's fist as its coming into your mouth?
@cptseagull15 жыл бұрын
nice...thanks for the vid boys
@RightWingCon8113 жыл бұрын
@ValkyereHowie Didn't you just say MMA is a poor proving ground because you have pros who practice all day? THat's just GINORANCE MAN, plain old GINORANCE! I don't know what ginorance is, but it's your word so I'm going with it.
@RightWingCon8113 жыл бұрын
@ValkyereHowie I practice Judo myself, I think it's great, but it is a sport and those who practice it probably couldn't through a guy who is punching them in the face. GJJ, not BJJ is designed to stop people in a REAL fight.
@copjitsu17 жыл бұрын
"and if they're holding really tight, don't do anything. you dont escape when you want to you escape when you can" I disagree with that one. For one, there is a technique to create space to escape even if they have a firm cross face side mount hold, and more importantly, what if they are holding you down waiting for their homies to get to you to kick your face in? You can't lay there and let ANYONE hold you down like that in the real world.
@mekoka17 жыл бұрын
I like
@shinjukool16 жыл бұрын
huh? search kosen judo. hirata judo. kimura judo. kashiwazaki judo. there is no "b"jj. Only gjj but you cannot use gjj for trademark reasons. gjj is 95% a training and tactical emphasis on newaza. the waza (technique) is essentially the same.
@RightWingCon8116 жыл бұрын
Look at Maeda's Judo and BJJ and tell me you DON'T see a difference. THere are CLEAR similarities and the GRcies have never denied the origins of their art but they have said, and correctly so, that they have changed it in key ways. If BJJ and Judo are the same why is it that Judo brown belts at my school lose to blue belts and purple belts and even white belts at times? If it's the same that wouldn't happen so offen.
@disturbed15713 жыл бұрын
@RightWingCon81 why must everyone discuss these arts as valid only if used in the UFC. number one there are other companies than the ufc in the mma world. and number two, all of these arts are for defending your life in a street fight situation. they're not teaching these people taking their classes to become mma fighters
@RightWingCon8116 жыл бұрын
When did I say they invented MMA? I don't see that in the post, nor do I see an implication fo that. And NO MMA was NOT invented by the Greeks the Greeks participated in pankration , while they did strike and grapple it was NOT what we know to be mixed martial arts, it was a unilateral art in itself. The Gracies participated in Vale Tudo which had been around before them in Brazil and Asian countries did similar events, but the Gracies DID REVOLUTIONIZE MMA as we know it.
@shinjukool16 жыл бұрын
95-98% judo. that is the core curriculum. maeda was a kodokan judoka. "olympic judo" does not equate to of judo waza. closed guard? Do Osae. some self defense. some method. some innovation as any teacher of any art would have but ... its not a new art as claimed. agree they are very skilled at fighting judo and should be commended for popularizing judo newaza. google and read JUDO HISTORY by M. Tripp
@RightWingCon8116 жыл бұрын
The Gracies may not be in the UFC anymore, they're too busy making real money teaching the best UFC fighters. If there'sone thing that has made the UFC Gracie proof, it's the use of Gracie techniques, even if they lose as individuals the techniques still win, case in point, Hughes Vs. Royce.