Grading Byron Murphy II's Rookie Season With the

[@sgtbjack]

He was double teamed 80% of the time. That's the job and he's doing it.

[@michaelredfield8809]

Where do you find those stats?

[@justinrichey11]

His stats won’t appear like that especially after the year Leo had but he took on a lot of double teams to free up plays for the next guy. He will learn and grow from his first season

[@DeathbySkullfxxx]

Are you talking to Wyman? Lol... please tell me youre talkin to someone else... anyone else

[@DanlowMusic]

Exactly! He's drawing double teams and making life easier for Leo, Reed and the edges.

[@mista4700]

How these guys who have been around the game for so long talking about statistics, don't talk about the 78% of double team's( lead the league in the first half, not sure after. Didn't check the stats. )he had,and how thuse game's went without him playing and hjw they were going up and down the field loe the halftime marching band on us? He's like Suh, getting everyone else statistics and millions that plays around him with him getting doubled.

[@mgb4692]

@ Haha, Big Cat gets his numbers cause of Busty🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@AnderDingusInc]

@@mista4700where on earth did you find that stat? The stats I saw left him out of the top 50 entirely lol (pff)

[@2jYeti]

He was also playing behind jarran reed and leonard williams. His snap count is quite a bit lower than both Being his 1st year and seeing how our line plays without him, id say he did great. 2nd year should be a leap year like boye and derrick hall.

[@mgb4692]

Yes Hall really leapt................into Josh Allen's facemask. Guess Tre Brown should get a big extension too

[@3pdad]

How often was he double-teamed, though?

[@AnderDingusInc]

Not very often at all. He was in the b gap one on one the vast majority of the time

[@IG_Digitalswords]

Seahawks were deep at DT. Mike was keeping them fresh by subbing often

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

what? They had no depth at DT, Dre'mont had barely any production, Mike morris doesn't belong on a roster, and Hankins was terrible at NT this season.

[@andis9076]

You guys really have short memory lost ?? We lost 3 games back to back when he was off the field and we got overrun by opponents, then start winning again once he's back !!! He and BigCat are the anchor of the DL.

[@Snack_Burglar]

Jarran Reed played 679 snaps. Leonard Williams played 750. Byron played just over 450 snaps. Boye Mafe had a big leap in year 2, and so did Derrick Hall. It’s fair to expect a similar leap in year 2 for Byron Murphy, but that probably means Jarran Reed is out the door.

[@DanlowMusic]

They could totally have Reed here too. There is plenty of room for Byron, Leo and Jarran. But I think he will be gone.

[@mgb4692]

The same Derick Hall that gave Josh Allen another shot at a TD? And *Reed* was the guy who Macmora lectured for getting after him. We're going nowhere with this sad mix of 90s Flores and Jim Mora, hate to tell you

[@50--11]

Reed will most likely be resigned.

[@stayvigilant007]

He had 12 tackles in 14 games...12. Verse took over games at times. Fisk was a problem all year long. Verse and Fisk both jump off the screen. Murphy's name was rarely called. I never expected 10 sacks, but I expected a game wrecker against the run. I would say a C. Average guy out there.

[@johnnelson9223]

He plays the same position as your best player. Tough to be that difference maker when you're not on the field (especially on pass rush downs), but they know what he can do.

[@kylejames1766]

Try and find highlights of Murphy getting dominated one on one....look at the jump Jalen Carter made from year one to year two. I thought Byron did a lot of the dirty work

[@markmitchelle9240]

I just looked it up. Braden Fiske has 44 tackles so far 20 of them solo with the Rams

[@the_seahawk22]

I have thought about this too but then I thought to myself. Well the run defense has improved substantially and when we missed him (and especially when we did not have Ernest) the run defense was awful. When he was there he was a wall and was eating double teams. Big cat happened to be the guy to make all those crazy plays.

[@Insertnamehereplz]

And I was called a hater when I says Murphy wouldn’t have Aaron Donald stats as a rookie

[@LDUB250]

Wyman usally picks up on these but watching the all-22 is guy that is doubled when he is on the field. There were some run plays he just looked unblockable. Hopefully next year it pays off with some sacks but those went to Big Cat who was having a great year. We need to get better on the edge because those guys aren't winning their match ups as often as they should. Mafe is the best we have. Hall took a step up but not a huge one.

[@PNW_STEFF]

He might develope his last year before he gets paid his college teammate had a better rookie season for the titans

[@michaelstrauss3769]

You’re being a little harsh on a future All-Pro. He’s played 25+ games in the last year. He hasn’t yet had the benefits coming from a full off-season in a Professional weight room. He brought some weak tendencies from his College career that will be addressed by good Line Coaching. He’s already proven that he can hold his ground against a Pro level double team. Give the “kid” a chance to mature a bit; he could become a monster.

[@mgb4692]

Future All-Pro, that the same one which L.J. Collier's been knocking down for years?🤣 Nnamdi, who Mac was so hellbent on duplicating, had double the production on roughly 60% of the snaps his rookie year, *with* a better collection of pass rushers (Calais, Matt Judon, Pernell McPhee, half a season of Yannick Ngakoue) No-tez Kennedy

[@dhartwell19]

I understand what you guys are saying but don’t discount all the dirty work he did. Double teams were almost always there.

[@starwarsf4]

I think if he doesn't facemask Darnold, hes viewed way differently. He will still be a beast!

[@worksource3409]

I give 7 out of 10 he needs to learn some sack moves

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

His pressure numbers were incredibly disappointing

[@3hour830]

@@jarrettchristensen_music he was playing 0tech all year lol hes a 3tech hes 6'0 300 he should not be playing nose thats on the team for not having another other option and murphy steped up and was selfless to help this team win..

[@mgb4692]

Change EA to U, FIFY. Do any of you guys remember another soft DT from Texas, about 20 years ago--the one they took before Steven Jackson? Yes, *clearly* McVay wanted Murphy instead of Jared Verse wrecking everybody.....................

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

@@3hour830 that's just not true, hankins was the primary NT

[@IG_Digitalswords]

Sam adams was a monster DT

[@squidtower]

Anyone else think Leonard Williams got completely screwed for the Pro Bowl? Ho did Jalen Carter get the nod over Williams? Pro Bowl is a joke these days! Not what it used to be! Carters numbers are like half what Williams had this year

[@paytoncommack5209]

For how stacked this rookie class was talent-wise, Id say his production floor was already high, but he definitely could have performed more explosively. When we had him in the beginning of the year we were winning games, and when he got hurt we stared losing and producing less on the D-line. Overall he has a lot of ceiling to improve with, but in terms of being able to get stats he needs to become a lot more electric.

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

I wasn't expecting a double digit sack season, but 0.5 is just a massive disappointment. My projection for him was 20 pressures and 6 sacks and he finished with 6 pressures and 0.5 sacks.

[@mgb4692]

Yeah you wanna put him against Fiske? No you don't

[@paastahtroy]

When all said and done he’ll end up being our 2nd best DT of all-time right behind Tez

[@tiredguy709]

From watching Murphy play I think he just needs a little more coaching. There were so many plays where he got to the QB but couldn’t finish the rush. He just needs to get better at finishing and he’ll have a solid 5-7 sacks next year. That and don’t pull facemasks

[@Mentaltoughness23]

Agreed. Also yes he was double teamed. But there was also 1 on 1 but he cant win. Dunno whats wrong if its a strenght or technique issue.

[@tiredguy709]

@ seemed more like technique. Even Aaron Donald didn’t win every 1on1 battle but the key I think is just in finishing the rep. If Murphy gets into the backfield he would often overshoot or lose balance as he started trying to tackle the QB. He probably wasn’t used to the level of mobility and footwork of nfl level QBs. I think if he learns better balance and better pass rush moves he can set himself up for more finishes that result in sacks and tfl’s

[@Mentaltoughness23]

@@tiredguy709 yeah. Well bright side is hes young. Its just hurts my eyes that Jared Verse is having a career year

[@tiredguy709]

@ he’s definitely had a good season, although we’re comparing an interior Dlineman with an edge rusher. Different responsibilities. A lot of Murphy’s job has just been gap assignment meaning just plug a hole on run plays and dissuade the RB from even coming your way. Our run defense was atrocious the 3 games Murphy was out. I think this second season he should be able to build on his game immensely.

[@mgb4692]

@ OK how about Fiske then? You don't wanna go there Mikey Likes It was hired to erase the mediocrity, not extend it (then again The Shrew likes optics and feelings, so she's become your typical clueless NFL owner). And yes, that meant year one, not three or four. But good to see even you expect Busty to become league average (or maybe even something above) in his second year, if he doesn't go all Marcus Tubbs first.

[@JaydinSanchez-h2f]

I was waiting for this 1

[@EvilFreak.]

hes getting doubled like every play n yall think he bad lmao

[@IG_Digitalswords]

Murphy is a ⭐

[@douglasthompson9482]

He did okay….let’s see what happens this year. I wouldn’t grade him too high.

[@kingjoffreyownsyou6032]

He stops the run. Someone thing we struggled with the precious year

[@IG_Digitalswords]

Not a big deal. Mike was smart to see how keeping Murphy fresh would work.

[@PNW_STEFF]

If he is so fresh shouldn't he have some energy to get to the quarterback

[@garrettmassey1822]

Give me a true nose tackle so he isn’t double teamed. He’s also only 22, he will get better!

[@IG_Digitalswords]

I like Murphy

[@kylewilson2819]

It’s tough. I don’t think he’s a bad player by any means, but when you have him compared to Aaron Donald and then he gets outperformed by the guy drafted after him by the team who HAD Aaron Donald, it really sucks. And for those who will point to the double teams, every DT gets double teamed and Chip blocked. You still have to produce, and he simply didn’t.

[@IG_Digitalswords]

Murphy just needs to play all 3 downs and then numbers will go up

[@PNW_STEFF]

But then he won't be fresh 😂

[@IG_Digitalswords]

Jones doesnt do his job without players like Murphy

[@mgb4692]

So not only did he make Big Cat but he made EJ as well🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@IG_Digitalswords]

No Murphy bashing allowed

[@mgb4692]

Too late, I'm here all day

[@drpammy7847]

Trade Away BM whilst lots of teams want him. Get next Verse & Fiske with new picks

[@Shaggy_Doo13]

CARTER > SPOON VERSE > MURPHY

[@ExaltedSeahawksFan]

No lies detected there

[@mgb4692]

He *clearly* grabs Darnold's facemask and yet Macmora is all "I'd have to see the tape" First draft pick Pete had was Russell Okung, first pick Macmora had is "his new Nnamdi Madubuike" project (not only was Nnamdi not a first round pick, this loss isn't even close to what he was as a rookie). And this fool's going to bring the team to new heights? Best we can hope for is KOC, 13 and 14 wins and then one-and-spanked out of the playoffs. And Pete was fired cause "we want a legit contender", fine. Mikey ain't it.

[@Kim-ek2mt]

This is typical for a John Schneider lineman pick Below average The streak continues

[@mannyvelasco9549]

Murphy is going to be good just needs to time

[@mgb4692]

This ain't just on Schneider, you think Mikey came west just to sit in on draft day? Who lobbied for his "next Nnamdi Madubuike"? Except not only was Madubuike not a first; he didn't even play as much as No-tez (25% to 40%), and he still had more sacks😂 Another Mike that was hired to erase mediocrity and instead just doubled down on it, we gonna have to wait til year seven with him too?

[@johnwhite7320]

He's no Aaron Donald yet. Hopefully, he'll get better.

[@mgb4692]

F Aaron Donald, he's Aaron *Curry*

[@cd8086]

C+

[@persephone9360]

man these guys talk about the seahawks for money and dont watch any film. depressing

[@IG_Digitalswords]

Murphy plays run downs. Obviously not going to get many sacks that way

[@mgb4692]

Yes second and 18 with the Vikings trailing by four is *clearly* a run down......................................

[@KrysRobinson-dj5ou]

He needs more practice

[@mgb4692]

What should we call Busty? (too generic) Byrel.j. Murphier? Byrik McDurhpy? Byrarcus Mubbs? No-tez Kennedy? (Shaqtin style) I like the last one, AGL. No-tez it is.

[@ThePNWRiderWA]

I would trade him as a C. His ceiling is Mebane. His floor is Marcus Tubbs.

[@paastahtroy]

😂 wow… tell me you don’t watch football without telling me you don’t watch football

[@ThePNWRiderWA]

@ Marcus tubs had a better rookie year than Murphy and was an excellent defensive tackle. Mebane had a long career with the Seahawks, then went to San Diego and he was a force up the middle. A C grade is what I expected. He is average. he is a rookie. I think he will be a fine defensive tackle for years to come, but to set the expectation that he is in the top 10 defensive tackles, which is where I would put an a grade is unfair to the player and unrealistic.

[@brandontoygamertv750]

Not great.

[@jeffshelke303]

Verse, oof

[@skibum6220]

They play completely different positions…

[@jarrettchristensen_music]

​@@skibum6220still, the rams have verse and young

[@mgb4692]

@@skibum6220 But they actually fell for McVay supposedly wanting Murphy instead, proving that he even owns the Hawks in April.

[@skibum6220]

@@mgb4692 if you really think they picked him because McVay “fooled them” you’re a silly goose

[@mgb4692]

McVay was the one who screamed to the hills for Murphy to be his next AD, obviously someone took the bait

[@philmickful]

BM I THOUGHT HE WOULD BE A LITTLE MORE DISRUPTIVE HE'S A YOUNG GUY SO LET SEE WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE NEXT YEAR

[@PNW_STEFF]

Another Schneider master class

[@mgb4692]

@@PNW_STEFF Schneider *and* Mikey

[@ExaltedSeahawksFan]

Not an impressive performance this year at all. L.J. Collier 2.0?