Joe Rogan Experience

Graham Hancock, formerly a foreign correspondent for "The Economist," has been an international bestselling author for more than 30 years with a series of books, notably "Fingerprints of the Gods," "Magicians of the Gods" and "America Before," which investigate the controversial possibility of a lost civilization of the Ice Age destroyed in a global cataclysm some 12,000 years ago. Graham is the presenter of the hit Netflix documentary series "Ancient Apocalypse."
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Flint Dibble is an archaeologist at Cardiff University who has conducted field work and laboratory analyses around the Mediterranean region from Stone Age caves to Egyptian tombs to Greek and Roman cities. Flint enjoys sharing archaeology - from the nitty gritty to the grand - with people around the world. Subscribe to his KZbin channel, "Archaeology with Flint Dibble," or follow him on X/Twitter for behind-the-scenes deep dives into 21st century archaeology.
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[@QSRSimulations]

Grahams argument is basically that you can’t rule it out, and the archeologist is saying we have no evidence. Just saved you 4 hours

[@jean-alexandrethibault3892]

[@prodTyeDye]

Yeah that pretty much sums it up, you can appeal to the unknown because it hasn’t been directly disproven with anything but it does mean you’re making an impactful or meaningful thought/statement

[@gussemke]

An archeologist with hands like he just came back from a beauty salon. Flint dibble is the prime example of woke man child throwing tantrums because people see it different than him. I couldnt watch longer than 30 minutes. What an unbearable manchild.

[@M4RT14N]

Shouldn't that be a key indicator of the difference of actual exploring and evidence gathering between both Graham and Dibble. Graham legit broke his own wallet to explore probably 10x more sites hands on than dibble.

[@GroberWeisenstein]

Can't rule it out nor can you rule it in based on nothing as a catalyst. Graham has as much evidence for it as aliens or leprechauns.

[@jamiebee1642]

Jamie, pull up Flint Dibble’s sleeves.

[@StormTroopaKoopa]

Goddammit 😆

[@casualviewing1096]

I personally think Flint took Graham to the wood shed during this podcast, but that comment is golden 😂

[@dennisfields8043]

I laughed for five minutes at his sleeves....and the hat, really........

[@Ktmfan450]

​@@dennisfields8043 Should have worn some TapOut attire with a tribal tattoo and a Harley Davison bandana

[@mynameisntleo]

​@@Ktmfan450or a feather boa and a bedazzled bikini? Dorks are just dorks dude. I'm a nerd, I own it. I'm not trying to arm wrestle anyone. But, humans have eyeballs and brains that interpret things around them. I saw a dork. What did you see?

[@aussieadventurenerd8137]

I think Joe deserves a bit of recognition for this episode, we all know how much he wants Grahams side to win this argument, a lot of us do because it’s a far cooler story but Joe holds a very central position and pushes back on both opposing sides when a valid point has been made. More episodes like this would be amazing but only because of Joes ability to remain open minded and moderate the conversation accordingly.

[@CyberFighter-hu7xo]

Graham is probably also psyop

[@Littlegoblinfatface]

“We” even though a lot of us also don’t like the psuedoarqchaeology he pedals…..

[@user-fx7og1jq3q]

Yeah, but honestly Joe was more energetic when Graham tried to desperately prove his ideas. In reality Joe wasn't totally unbiased but it got the job done.

[@jorgequintanillare]

Great comment. I agree with it.

[@Littlegoblinfatface]

We all???? Ok dude

[@Jorhan]

Dibble holding his earphones because he refuses to take off his indiana jones cosplay will always be funny

[@squamish4244]

Ain't nobody wants to take off their Indy cosplay.

[@funkymunky7935]

The guy is a total douchebag

[@wipis59]

It's even more Indy because it's his father's hat and his father was an archeologist. He's even named Flint because his father studied flint tools.

[@StazKodama]

hahahah

[@blackbird5634]

@@wipis59 Paul Stamets wears a hat that's made MOSTLY out of a mushroom and LOOKS like a mushroom and I dare say, probably smells dank, and moldy.🤣

[@johnmcdonagh374]

Millions of people watching a 4 hour debate on archaeology like its the next Tyson fight is what JRE is all about.

[@Ninja1Ninja2]

and its not even too hard of a debate its like ‘i have a british accent and i believe atlantis ruled the world during the ice age’ vs ‘im an actual archaeologist and my dad was an archaeologist and were not censoring this guy’

[@dieinvincible]

@@Ninja1Ninja2fully!!! ❤

[@logic109]

We need the next debate to be Cadance Owens VS Ben Sharipo on Isreal

[@Jonathan-bt7oq]

Yes Bro, plus we really enjoyed it.

[@BrianNassar]

100% agree brother!!

[@Punished_Trump]

Hancock v Dibble: The battle for the HDMI

[@assumity]

And fumbling for reading glasses…

[@maxsends]

😂

[@arsenalfc210]

🤣🤣🤣

[@killekillekille1]

We already know Randall got the interim cable

[@bernardodiaz3390]

😂😂😂

[@djanglesmcdoogle7171]

Round 2 needs Randall Carlson and a colleague of Flint's. Tag team archeological debate lol

[@Clavers1369]

And in Round 3 they become 3 person teams with one comedian each. I suggest Aubrey Plaza and Mr Bean. Make sure Aubrey is unarmed or it will end badly.

[@uncle_rick333]

That would be badass!

[@uncomonsense]

I argue there is a lost civilization that came BEFORE the lost civilization that Graham talks about. Graham cannot prove I am wrong because we haven't excavated 100% of all areas on earth.

[@merlintym1928]

I'd actually contend the works supposed to be attributed to your lost civilization are impossible to have been made by man and were in fact, the work of ancient aliens.

[@chloegrobler4275]

hehehehe

[@unbabunga229]

😅 that is really his entire defence. I also LOVE that his entire evidence were holiday photos he had doing some middle class scuba diving

[@Smilejustsmilebby]

😂😂​@@unbabunga229

[@Aethelvlad]

That's correct. That is solid logic and completely true, even if you find it to be funny. It will always be the truth. Language matters. Do not speak in absolutes without an objectively complete collection of evidence, this is basic science.

[@tylergardner9918]

My man Flint spent 4 and a half hours not moving his neck so he could wear the headphones like that. All so he could wear that Indiana Jones hat. That's commitment

[@mediocreape]

Lmao

[@glovesforsocks4603]

hes really insecure about himself obviously

[@rulta]

😂

[@8Yogurt8]

I like this guy.

[@bsx121]

That's what a dibble would do

[@ataft85]

2 hours in and I'm now fairly convinced nerd battles should become a regular feature on JRE

[@GardenofEdens]

sad to see so much hate for flint , hes just honest and gets shit on in these comment section. Flint is in my eyes credible since he trys to educate while grahame and rogan just want to believe. i would wish there was an ancient lost human civilazation but i was there and my brain told me is no source ....

[@markbaz4200]

Wait, why are they “nerds”?

[@Bingobanana4789]

@@GardenofEdens he behaved like a snake and a petulant child. You can agree or disagree with both of their view points but his behaviour was disgusting

[@raphk9599]

​@@GardenofEdens He's an odd bird, but his heart is in the right place.

[@shefalichow7917]

@@GardenofEdens Your entire comment is written in bad faith. You claim Graham and Rogan just want to believe, while Flint merely wants to educate. Yet during the video Graham presents ample evidence and points to back up his point of view, while Flint refuses (repeatedly) to even consider the points Graham is bringing up, treating them with ridicule and disdain (as he did when Graham started showing examples of underwater monuments). Graham also pointed out how the archeological community (and this smoothly translates to science communities at large) stifled and stomped out any opposition to their maintained views, ignoring evidence from their fellow members who were later proven right. They merely wanted to educate, just like Flint here does. There's a special place in the afterlife for folks like yourself.

[@XViTNg]

So much of grahams arguments are just proving “you guys are mean to me” rather than actually refuting anything.

[@MDK3192]

You're projecting that... I disagree with your opinion, but will take it upon my considerations. - MDK

[@Lucas-ho4ld]

Even if you're entirely correct, the prospect of "being mean" by publicly claiming in our cultural landscape that someone has, or associates with people who have, racist sentiments is a direct attack on their career and livelihood. I've spent 17 years cultivating my skills through hard work and dedication and you can bet your ass I would be "defensive" if someone attempted to de-platform or blacklist me in my community. For all of Dibble's clamor over evidence, he seems to be very lax on finding evidence of any racism by Graham Hancock. As for his sources, who cares, exactly? Who's crying about racism?

[@XViTNg]

@@Lucas-ho4ld my point is that whenever Graham is on, he tends to focus more on arguing about defaming him, rather than discussing the topic we are all watching the interview for.

[@XViTNg]

@@MDK3192 I don’t think I’m projecting - Graham literally made a few power point presentations and went on at great length to discuss all the ways the mainstream archaeology community doesn’t respect him. And he gets very emotional and angry when bringing it up.

[@Lucas-ho4ld]

@@XViTNg All of his interviews one-on-one with Joe have been stellar. The ones with Randall Carlson are even more focused on the topic. He addressed Schermer and Dibble with some comments about how institutions have stifled archeological findings--which is contextually relevant.

[@dutchjambo]

I just can't stop looking at Flint's sleeves.

[@kevincrady2831]

He never fully recovered from an unfortunate shrink-ray accident. Graham was operating the device, but he switched his glasses at an inopportune time. 😂

[@mnomadvfx]

@@kevincrady2831 Lol, I'm completely with DIbble here, but this comment made me spit my drink all over the keyboard 🤣😆

[@bryankahl3514]

You have to give this archeologist some respect for going on the podcast to actually have this conversation rather than just completely ignore and dismiss Graham.

[@6ftS]

yea he needed to promote his sponsors and get some publicity... nothing was achieved here apart from some obviously much needed publicity for both guests...

[@karljonson3287]

​@@6ftSwhat did you expect to be achived?

[@AA11AA11AA]

Nah Dibble is silly he is using BS evidence that Graham doesn’t know about eg moving Egyptian statues and cutting rock, that was 100% a lie. Ben from UnchartedX will respond I hope to put him in his place

[@justinwinningham4892]

@@AA11AA11AAwhy is it bullshit evidence? It’s evidence

[@dylhas1]

Until he said in an article that ideas Graham puts forth are harmful and align with the idea of white supremacy. Dude’s a fool

[@msgtblbj]

There has never been someone who has looked more like their name than Flint Dibble.

[@kellyseggerman4311]

Nature/nurture both. I feel like he molded and grew into that name as well.

[@almiller1371]

And he dabbles with flint.

[@Bostons_Freak_Flag]

😅😅😅😅😅😅😅

[@wolfblud49]

He looks like he rIdes one of those old timey bikes with the big front wheel

[@pix3279]

@@almiller1371 +1

[@SemiLife411]

This is Joe Rogan’s sweet spot; sort of a moderator in a conversation with people who know way more than he does.

[@user-xf4yv5wy3o]

Ya like you not gonna talk over him, he'll beat your ass up

[@robertnobles8189]

He knows more than ONE of the guests. Graham is pseudoscience story tellingZ

[@SemiLife411]

@@robertnobles8189 I’ll give you the story telling part, but he’s basing it on the same information that mainstream archeology has. Some would call it thinking for himself.

[@Karayudo]

As an Archaeologist I had the chance to meet Flint Dibble in Crete 2 years ago on an excavation. I have to say he’s one if not the most engaging and passionate people I’ve ever met. He was conducting a research study on cattle archeological remains and he had all phds, archaeologists and students drinking his words and actively participating to the discussion while presenting us a few goat bones. He was an extremely nice and down to earth guy and the fact that he was strongly encouraging both students and “experts” to exchange over his research subject was very compelling to me since there are quite a few of the so called experts in archaeology who just like to hear themselves speak. I couldn’t have thought of a better person to represent the archaeologists on this debate.

[@justintaylor7837]

Yet he calls people racist because why?

[@Fluffy0pz11]

@@justintaylor7837dude what? Like what makes your brain go there. Very weird

[@user-fx7og1jq3q]

@@justintaylor7837 There is nothing wrong with calling other people racist, specially if they are in fact. Plus, Flint said Graham was quoting people that tend to lean to white supremacist ideas. Graham should actually heave his advice and use more sources, not just the sources that "seem" to support his ideas. Graham should just be more careful when presenting his ideas. Because that's just all it is, if there is no evidence, it's just ideas.

[@justintaylor7837]

@user-fx7og1jq3q the entire modern western civilization was built by people who tended to lean towards white supremacy. So does that make me racist now? George Washington owned slaves. Am I racist every time I spend a dollar bill? You don't even understand your own statement much less any point I mave have made.

[@AustinKoleCarlisle]

@@user-fx7og1jq3q how does Flint Dibble know this lost civilization was white? it's very possible they could've been black, so you'd think he wouldn't be so dismissive of the possibility. does he know something we don't?

[@irwinos719]

graham intensely fighting with his 3 pairs of glasses is the greatest subplot ever

[@theStoicRook]

🤣

[@joshuabartlett4050]

Modern day sage problems

[@twila987]

💀

[@XCE55IVE]

Between that and the headphones.

[@KASPARFLUECK]

😂

[@graysmith9218]

Lemme get an ounce of Purple Kush, and half ounce of that Flint Dibble.

[@GenuinelyCurious120]

Gives you the Flint Dribbles though.

[@jaejitso0]

@@GenuinelyCurious120I have someone to catch my dribbles ,sir.

[@pennoshea2204]

Thank you for this. It gave me a good laugh.

[@eXpressYourselfClips]

Graham Hancock has main stream archaeolgy rolled up in a joint

[@MrThidious]

Definitely a hybrid.... 30/70 indica/sativa

[@stephens700]

This debate really showed that grahams lack of evidence compared to actual research done by archeologist pokes a lot of holes in his theory. Unfortunately the speculative and unknown will always draw more curiosity then hard evidence that supports the common consensus. This helped me find channels like World of Antiquity that actually cover real archeology.

[@namelastname9576]

But it is a little suspicious of them to attack people with different views so much. Especially if they dont have solid evidence (Grahams' side). Also being smug and condescending doesn't leave an impression of confidence in their own work. Also not im not saying they are wrong.

[@ChurritoFrio]

It's hard to debate that most of the word has not been excavated. So surely there is plenty of evidence that has not been uncovered yet

[@terrycruise-zd5tw]

@@ChurritoFrio ok but that doesnt mean theres evidence of an ancient civilization that secretly ruled the world that we havent discovered yet because actual archelogists are afraid of having their work rewritten or being wrong? even though all of grahams points are refuted by actual proof. why doesnt graham become an actual archeologist and go study these things? hes rich from his netflix show, he can fund or get funding to do actual excavations and research into his claims. its like claiming that god is real yet instead of provding proof of said claim, you instead ask others to prove its not real - the burdeon of proof is on the person making the claim.

[@stephens700]

This may be true but absence of evidence is not proof of anything. And if you listen to what archeologist say about this they are open to the Idea but they just do not find the evidence of a lost society.

[@stephens700]

@@namelastname9576 Disagreements in the scholarly world is nothing new and is very human you see it in all institutions. And i guess you could consider Flint Smug but I dont think he represents everyone in the instution. The Fact is Graham has attacked archeology/ist since the first time he was on Joe's Podcast back in 2011 equating it to a dogma or religion. I think he plays up the letter they sent to netflix you can read it for yourself. documents.saa.org/container/docs/default-source/doc-governmentaffairs/saa-letter-ancient-apocalypse.pdf

[@squamish4244]

A super ultra mega podcast, 4.5 hours long, might be Rogan's longest ever. And deservedly so.

[@stuartbodnar31]

Flint Dibble is a real life South Park character 😂

[@h0cke]

Right?

[@Wessels026]

Stuart you're so damn right. Was watching and was like gotta see the comments on this guy.

[@Sbrunet]

How is this comment not top-liked

[@derkle21]

Manbearpig = Climate change

[@idontwantahandleanymore]

Flint blocked me on Twitter for calling him a coward for not debating Graham 4 months ago

[@brian_w]

Rogan's back on youtube, Graham is back on Rogan. All is well with the world once again

[@aTouchoClass]

Feels like the good old times innit

[@Syv_]

KZbin rogan is the best rogan

[@DeineMeinungPolitik]

Holoway

[@youtubegoogleb]

accurate

[@km2766]

Spotify subs dropping off, he was gonna lose that contract renegotiation position

[@KodokunaYume]

Despite the geeky first impression he leaves, Flint Dibble was an incredibly articulate and overwhelmingly powerful speaker. Even if Graham is right, I don't think he could've overcome the sheer force that Flint hammered him down with. There are so many things that Graham didn't get to say or bring up, because he was constantly getting roundhouse kicked and chasing Flint's coattails. Just a sad affair overall.

[@hoppy303]

Whether you agree or disagree with him, what Graham fails to understand is that the burden of proof lies with the people putting forward a theory. A lack of evidence against your theory is not evidence for your theory.

[@supenjin1]

He's never said his wasn't a theory. There's no burden of proof either way. He's only saying his theory and fighting back the amount of insults and censorship from many so-called 'scientists'. What apparently many people lack is logical thinking. He has a theory, some archeologists snap at him. That doesn't mean any part is right, it's just that many scientists are inmovilistic, close minded and short tempered. There's a huge fact that Hancock says at the beginning, which makes absolute sense and speaks volumes about many archeologists' train of thought, and it's that only a very little amount of research has been done in the Sahara desert, so there's no way any archeologist may imply that the rest of undiscovered land is empty or lack of evidence. He just says we don't know and archeologists say they know even though they've done very little coverage on the total ground

[@hoppy303]

@supenjin1 I suggest you google ‘the scientific method’

[@victordelorientis8763]

Flint isn't a geologist, he should be more humble when it comes to natural stone erosion. Flint can only recognize what he has already seen before. These stones can not be 100% natural. I think humans found this site and customized it. They may have learned to carve stones from their experience on this site. They would have start with small stones and progressively developed craftsmanship to carve and move larger blocks.

[@supenjin1]

​@@hoppy303 I suggest you acquire reading comprehension. When you have a theory, you don't have to prove it works, hence its name "theory". Hancock has never said he was 100 % sure his theory is real because he has no proof. Archeologists don't have proof either. That's why these debates exist, because if there were proof, there'd be no need for debate. I suggest you find the difference between "theory" and "reality". It's not that difficult. If you present proof, it's not a theory anymore🤦🏻‍♀️

[@BobJones-cd9mt]

Depends on your perception of the proof. Hunter gatherers can just as likely be the survivors of a cataclysm. Starting again. This is what they are trying to hide. They are not trying to discover the past they are trying to conceal it.

[@-KillaWatt-]

Duncan Trussell's disguises are getting better and better.

[@stevesmoke1221]

Oooooh shit i see it now XD

[@RageBruh]

Underrated Comment Budd, Kudos.

[@aviapoIis]

You won the internet today!🏆

[@MrPablo1uk]

So funny 😁

[@sinchicken00]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@luisvega9019]

Damn, the Olympic levels of mental acrobatics between Flint and Graham to not insult each other were insane

[@satturatedphat]

Flint was very insulting the entire time

[@SirBobbyDuncan]

Like a bunch of juvenile children 😂 surprised they didn't come to limp slaps

[@colinryan4737]

​@@SirBobbyDuncanI doubt either of them would want to be restrained by Joe 😂

[@Shitboxo]

"I eluded to the fact you were a racist and the fact you're calling me out on it, on one of the worlds largest platforms really is bs, I wanted a civil conversation" 😂 maybe don't say shit like that and get upset when you get called out tf ​@satturatedphat

[@d1boundkj]

It’s finally completed: kzbin.info/www/bejne/pGXVdamgq96cg5Isi=NBsBbCBAEsOlQiW_

[@JustPeachyMind]

Grahm is just like "well we havent searched every single forest in every single corner of the globe, so you cant PROVE that unicorns dont exist".

[@Malegys]

when Flint is sleeping, it's Flint Napping...

[@alvarobesnier]

This is so much better than the stand up comedian guests

[@jeffhall768]

Ouch. Hot take there. I love both equally but differently and that's why JRE is the best podcast in the world.

[@jeffhall768]

Some of the comedian guests turn my terrible day 180⁰ around btw. There's no replacing comedy.

[@EZ-jd2nq]

so sick of hearing from those same old jackasses

[@rawn9234]

Lol

[@bigred7931]

I agree always enjoy the scientific talks or people in their field of experience....but still enjoy the occasional funny guest

[@jjaff2804]

It's surprising how entertaining it can be to listen to two grown men argue about rocks.

[@augustgreig9420]

But the two men aren't arguing.

[@6ftS]

rock solid jre

[@Kobimus1]

"They're not rocks! They're geodes!"

[@elizabethstuart8401]

It's about our shared common history.

[@blackdynamite_5470]

"Mr.Borelli you're such a fantastic moron, it's terrifying "

[@brandonmckinney6298]

Real shit. I hope I can be the kind of dad to make my kids proud of me as Flint is of his dad.

[@brudda4315]

Man no cap 💙🌍

[@hotindianuncle]

hope my boy doesn't go around calling people racist for talking about "atlantis", though. corny shit.

[@Patrick-el8zs]

Hell yeah 👍

[@unbabunga229]

I agree but Flint seems very liberal which means his dad failed him as a man

[@yesplease101]

​@@unbabunga229liberals created the US constitution, ended slavery, ended jim crow, and ended segregation. They don't seem too bad to me.

[@bkkintegral]

It’s so refreshing when an expert in a particular field of study dissects a pseudo expert who makes bold unsupported assertions. We see it everyday on social media.

[@garymaidman625]

It is, however he barely gets a word in because Hancock's above all else very much likes the sound of his own voice. I love how he refers to papers and then says he doesn't expect anyone to look at them. Of course he doesn't, that is his whole modus operandi, preaching to people who don't have the time or inclination to read the literature. When he finds someone that does, he reverts to the whole 'you're mean to me' argument.

[@purplengold983]

Graham a narcissist man. He tried to make the whole episode about the assassination of his character rather than presenting believable evidence

[@mnomadvfx]

@@purplengold983 He may be a narcissist too, but IMHO the entire act is about preserving his income revenue rather than anything else. To do so he will say or do anything.

[@ravenfeader]

@@mnomadvfx Interesting isn't it , 90% of the comments cannot see this podcast for what it is . Dibble reacting like an Archaeologist Hancock running a business successfully using Dibble Joe running a business successfully using both of them

[@YosoyTez]

Jamie worked his ass off on this episode. 🤣

[@KelsoNeedy]

I found myself actually feeling bad for him at one point, Im like ‘omg he’s probably so stressed and annoyed rn’ hahahah

[@YosoyTez]

@@KelsoNeedy idk what he gets paid, but he needs double for this episode!

[@KelsoNeedy]

@@YosoyTez I’m sure he already makes plentyyy. Make that boy work for his money, damn it! lol idk

[@greg6782]

​@@YosoyTezhe gets a lot of episodes off when it's just a bunch of comedians getting drunk and high though.

[@adrianecrabtree4018]

Jamie performs heroics!

[@MagicPeaceLove]

4 1/2 hour archeology debate gets 1.6 *million* views overnight. I'm so thankful that Joe Rogan found his audience and that they found him.

[@furyianman5157]

"They" so you come to talk? Are you not apart?

[@adrianking3634]

it found you. That's how it works these days.

[@juerfe]

I wish this was about archeology lmao it's about these dudes personal beef

[@adambgunn]

He was a very sane 3rd party and pushed at the right times.

[@chrisignacio8748]

Exactly. Thank god for independent media, otherwise Dibble and his ilk will keep silencing these revolutionary researchers. Makes you ask, what the fuck are these people trying to hide?

[@PrinceFrogFrog]

Graham talking about how there’s a conspiracy against him while avoiding the word conspiracy

[@coltscott4121]

At the beginning I was pro-Graham. By the end, I was pro-Flint. 😬

[@whatabouttheearth]

I'd like to chill out and talk with him and get Flint stoned

[@whatabouttheearth]

I'd like to chill out and talk with him and get Flint stoned

[@danquinsey6493]

Naming your new born child Flint Dibble, gives it a 98% chance of it becoming an archeologist.

[@fjbfjb2618]

An archeologist right out of the Flintstone’s.

[@user-ue5yw6zb9k]

Careful, we have some elitist hurt egos in the comments 😅

[@TheDeven1000]

And virgin until 30

[@danquinsey6493]

@@TheDeven1000 hahaha 😂 💯

[@luke9911]

I think it’s a pretty cool name.

[@ahmedyoussef9266]

“Jamie pull up the location of Atlantis”

[@robinhood490]

Jamie pull up my pants haha

[@MisAlizana]

laughing ....yes jamie

[@swirvinbirds1971]

🤣

[@TrellShawn]

(finds irrefutable proof) 😂

[@ScrodyTv]

😂😂😂 duuuude

[@wipis59]

Graham: *points to funny shaped rocks* "looks man made to me". Flint: "prove it". Graham: "see they just refuse to accept alternative theories."

[@victordelorientis8763]

Flint laughed at and ridiculed this suggestion with his colleagues.

[@rotag-itsni]

@@victordelorientis8763it’s ok to laugh at morons pushing moronic ideas

[@daaaannk4362]

@@victordelorientis8763 as he should

[@jakecrump8231]

It is 5pm on the 20th of April. 3.4million people have just watched an archaeology debate. This is why Joe Rogan is the goat 🐐

[@nigelnyoni8265]

Exactly!

[@brettmuir5679]

I surmise by your time stamp you are in Britain Scotland or Ireland, perhaps Spain or Portugal. Thanks for your comment. I concur :)

[@CheriTheBery]

Yeah, because only people from the same time zone watch this, right? 😂

[@chrisjustus9202]

Where you from bro it’s 2.53 p.m est. on the 20th of april

[@chrisjustus9202]

You from the future 😂😂😂😂

[@adamcraig1468]

Get these 2 guys a comedy show where they visit sites together 😂

[@addyn25]

🤣🤣🤣🤣i'd pay such good money to watch these two both being forced to visit sites together, with nobody for company but each other

[@adamcraig1468]

@@addyn25 peak comedy

[@Realistic_Management]

"One's an archaeologist, the other's a journalist and they can't stand each other. We've sent them around the world to some of the most famous archaeological sites to duke it out and determine fact versus fantasy. Will they be able to come to a consensus or will this journey of discovery descend into chaos. Coming soon to Netflix: Between a Flint & a Hard Place."

[@h.a.s.42]

That image made my day :DDDDDD

[@OppiesDen]

YESSSS

[@zackc3767]

Graham would make a great Mormon apologist. "We haven't found evidence of a massive battle in the Americas were millions died 1500 yrs ago but we also haven't excavated every hill in the Americas down to bedrock either so it's still possible."

[@SofaMuncher]

I gotta say this is one of the all-time great Joe Rogan episodes. I was captivated the whole time. So much fascinating information and perspectives from borh Flint and Graham. Although it got heated at times, they had enough mutual respect for their disagreement not to takeover the episode. Joe Rogan also did a great job at moderating the conversation. All around just great stuff!

[@RJCE420]

UFC 304 Dibble vs Hancock For the Lost Civilization Belt

[@NotUrDJ]

The real bmf championship xD

[@ryanhagen30]

We don’t put on “gimmick” fights

[@MrRillaDutch]

Lmfaoooooo I’d put money on graham

[@cliffhooper3558]

Graham will beat that nerd senseless..

[@DennisFeinsteinCEO]

Graham would "Conor/Aldo" this dude 💪

[@artodark1157]

Fascinating how Joe was screaming the night before in the octagon and now having an academic conversation about lost civilizations

[@ellobo945]

An absolute legend

[@codybrooks5016]

Alpha brain on overtime

[@Goyaboyayoga]

Fr! Lmfao

[@curbwhiz2010]

Joe is a Unicorn in this society man. Beast. Legend. Dude.

[@tste8361]

This podcast was done days before the fights. They edited it and then released

[@michaelralston9608]

Regarding underwater structures and sculptures off the coast of Japan, there is going to be damage and effects of time so considering it's been under water for over 10,000 years, the fact that it still has so many recognizably man made features is frankly incredible.

[@IGLCAP]

I once pulled out a potato out of the ground that looked like Elvis. Vastly understudied, gotta be man made

[@elihowardthegreatergood]

I’m so glad Joe waited until we had a comments section again to air this episode.

[@londyndaigle2157]

when did the comments disappear 👀?

[@bradleyroissetter6796]

Spotify buddy

[@_Bryant.R]

Take it easy chief ​@@ssumeddead

[@ULTRAVISTA.]

​@@_Bryant.R I'm not your chief, buddyguy

[@kingheart9555]

@@ULTRAVISTA.I’m not you buddy guy, PAL!

[@ryankurtz5144]

Joe must have consumed 50 alpha brain tablets before this episode

[@kev199369]

Hahahahahahahahahahahaahagahahahahha

[@into_the_void]

Plus elk meat and some lions Mane mushrooms

[@jasonluke9518]

10 pieces of neurogum throughout

[@2010kgurl]

He boofed them for max absorption.

[@ashleybanks-wm4cg]

At least

[@louisalbertyn8579]

Huge Graham Hancock fan, but he got absolutely destroyed. Props to Flint for bringing actual facts

[@ujjwalsingh9111]

Dont think he got destroyed at all .. i think he was able to prove 1) that a very very small portion of explored excavations done 2) organized rebunking and demonizing using white supremacy, nazism etc of any new idea

[@tacho9427]

This whole podcast is basically a live action twitter argument lol

[@thehendrixexperience1704]

Flint Dibble is that one guy in High School who brought a briefcase instead of a backpack.

[@chawzwan]

😂😭😭😂

[@DaMilli]

That’s actually the koolest cat in the school too doe btw.. ✊🏾🧠🌍🧘🏾‍♂️😂.. rs.. I’d rather be ahead of time, then behind…., FeeMe¿

[@RJS152]

Flint is that one guy in High School that got suspended for bringing his light saber to gym class

[@ajuister]

did we all have that one kid who did that?

[@jacktuten4326]

And a whip and told others “it belongs in a museum “

[@flu1dz]

I got about 17 seconds into the interview on Spotify, saw the Indiana Jones hat and immediately closed it and came to watch it on KZbin JUST FOR the comments, and boy I was not disappointed 😂

[@Pantleg7]

Same 😂

[@lizsoto82]

I really thought they were gonna flame flint dibble harder, lmao.😂The dude looks like he smells his own farts.

[@zenofthemoment]

Unfortunately, I got way further than that before I shut it off and came here for the video. Boy was I surprised at how this man looks! The voice did not give it away! 😂

[@Jugaika]

Men of culture, gather round …

[@jared_r]

Poor guy needs to lose his virginity.

[@BoostlessJoe]

for someone that wanted to debate, Hancock spent more time playing the victim instead of trying to show his facts

[@mnomadvfx]

When you break his media down, playing the victim is only real talent on display. He spends a significant fraction of Ancient Apocalypse doing the same victim dance. Playing the victim card is his big defense against any scientific criticism of his literature/media claims. He knows a big fraction of his audience are Christians or lapsed Christians that get hit in the feels by the martyr trick. After all, his only real academic expertise is sociology, he knows enough about how people tick to push the right buttons.

[@seeharvester]

Someone should inform him that among megalithic construction, humans have also made great achievements in 'bi-focals'.

[@helenharris4000]

WOW, thank you for an amazing episode! I could of listened to more from Graham & Flint... Joe your calmness and control to moderate and help us all see both sides ... Thank you all !

[@Twitch24]

Can we tske a minute to appreciate the Archaeological Dad went and called his son Flint 🤣

[@rob-artfarmingnz6138]

😂 thanks, I missed it

[@Teshelle18]

Good stuff!!🎉

[@MacAoidh4]

There's levels to nerdiness 😂

[@drinkmorecocacola]

I agree that Indiana jones jr absolutely sucks. But damn. Graham starts with an attack on archeology being meanies he should’ve just gotten straight to it and let the dorkiest mfer on earth dig his own hole. Graham has a smarmy way of making points also. Dribble just really made himself unlikable in even his appearance.

[@91Kay]

Autism is vast. Some can be abrasive, this came across like sandpaper.

[@Stormborn_717]

Now I need another podcast of a mainstream geologist debating with Randall Carlson as well.

[@timrobinson6573]

He's actually a brown belt in Brazilian jui jitsu. That's how Joe became aware of him.

[@blainfeaster4772]

Yo do realize mainstream means its in your face like Joe is mainstream? Gram is mainstream because he has shows and is constantly talking about things he didn't study. While flint is not mainstream along with every other scientist in the world. Dr are more mainstream them archeologist and geologist. I hope this explanation helps you in the future

[@hamon_master1390]

​@@blainfeaster4772replace "mainstream" with "establishment" and you'll get what he meant, hope this helps.

[@joshpratt0310]

@@hamon_master1390 well said bro!!!!

[@T25de]

@@blainfeaster4772keep working at it 😅

[@veronicaknight3950]

I don't feel good, still have to work and need some distraction. I was going to rewatch some Graham Hancock cast, and low! There's a new one!!!

[@JasonSharkey-nk8is]

This is amazing. Joe get in the ring to referee an intilectual match. This is a stressful situation but all made it through. Bravo gentlemen!

[@ethanpage9876]

We need more of THIS. Unadulterated debate between amicable people with opposing viewpoints. THIS is how we grow our consciousness, our beliefs, our history! Awesome work Joe.

[@housemaster1988]

Absolutely 💯 I'd like to see this done in many fields

[@wendyweedwhacker]

How about chronology? Archaix data totally refutes Graham's dating.

[@ZIGZAGBureauofInvestigation]

The British Narratives = nothing more than deception/money scams.

[@jakob-wb2pp]

@@wendyweedwhacker 15:22

[@kingofoblivion1822]

I would give my left nut if Rogan would get Trump vs Biden on here

[@davehughes53]

As a construction worker I can guarantee you my boss doesn’t want to hear anything about a work stoppage due to found archeological structures and/ or objects. I can only imagine how many are bulldozed in other countries

[@chrisbroyles5206]

Fr, if you find a arrowhead or any sort of artifact, that will stop dirt from moving and being productive

[@sinisterminister9920]

I 2nd that 100%

[@johnnyflannigan136]

Your boss is a horrible person then

[@sebastianharrison6118]

Yep same here

[@moniumus6303]

And its awful. Imagine how many important discoveries we have already built over that could be groundbreaking

[@pellegrinopwns]

Amazing talk, as a history lover this was beautiful. The beef, the talks, the love. Awesome truly awesome, can't wait for round two!

[@Andrew73H]

Outstanding preparation and presentation by Flint Dibble, Joe we need to see more of him. Real science is so much more interesting than fantasy, and Flint provided a great flood of fascinating facts. Can't decide is Hancock a deliberate charlatan or a well meaning pudding brain in need of bifocals?

[@sonyatheys5665]

I would LOVE to see a tv series where these two go out on archaeological expeditions together and all the conflicts they face 😂

[@anon17472]

Flint doesn't like to go outside, he just looks at photos

[@ericbrown8974]

... you could make a romantic comedy along those lines.

[@nicknuggets369]

I was almost certain one would kill the other after this. 😂😂😂 regardless that would be gold, some good western staredown type ish

[@Jesusking8887]

They would have learn from each other a lot

[@theartfuldodger8609]

Against all odds, they learn to appreciate eachothers' differences. Rated PG13.

[@kodywest3893]

I wish I could’ve seen the interaction between Joe and Jamie the moment Flint and Graham walked out of the studio.

[@goblindemon2276]

😳😬😅

[@HaroldBallz]

😂

[@pokefan314]

I’m only 5 minutes in & this comment made me laugh !

[@michaelblurry6559]

Probably talked about how much of a duechebag Flint comes off as regardless of what he knows or doesnt. Poor guy did not get enough hugs from his narcissistic dad.

[@Goodyearmonkey]

I agree

[@bigyeet3629]

As much as I want to be on Graham’s side, the onus is on him to provide stronger evidence to support his theory. I feel like a lot of this boils down to how evidence we currently have is interpreted and how far you’re willing to deviate from the accepted/mainstream views.

[@adishadzo9896]

Everyone in this podcast gave their best. Joe was great host asking good questions, Jamie managed to find all the pictures while handling that hdmi cable, Graham fought three pairs of glasses and Flint kept his hat on without breaking his neck or headphones. This episode should go in history as one of the best.

[@thegoatchico456]

Bro thank you for this comment 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@RickSanchez-zb2bh]

"old age is a bitch" - Graham Hancock

[@malcinzah4156]

The UFC of Archeology !!

[@malcinzah4156]

My reviews is Graham prepared to face up that sneaky online trolls that got him canceled, at this point in life he still got the energy and patience for the airdrops and glasses. Flint clearly is need much more rock dibbling to do and maybe less woke and more dibbling and have little bit of optimising. Make archeology interesting again. Having Joe as a referee is always good in this kinda exchange of energy , and Jamie is i think lost the most calories!!

[@robinbuitendijk152]

This comment is probably even MORE hilarious then this episode. Well done my friend.

[@HereRightNowEternally]

Jamie was the unsung hero of this episode. He's an HDMI cable samurai.

[@darraghmcconn]

Of every episode 👌

[@averagealienSD]

I mean he didnt even know how to get audio from an HDMI signal.

[@Marksun777]

Just wondering though isn't I possible to have a few hdmi cables in this modern podcast room? Even if a second screen was needed. Then there would be less to switch around or airdrop?

[@UyeGaming]

@@user-et9zf3ne5p Not 100% true, there are some really weird edge cases.

[@ryanchoreim5269]

@@averagealienSDits not that he didnt know how to get audio from it, the normal audio is probably hooked up from his pc going to dedicated speakers, and not coming from the tv/monitors speakers. It is probably just not set up so that the tv speakers record audio.

[@Ar1AnX1x]

2:04:34 it's incredible how Dibble kept explaining this simple fact that those Atlantis Conspiracy Theories come mostly from white supremacist sources and Hancock shouldn't be siting those and Joe keeps misunderstanding that he's calling Hancock a white supremacist, Joe is as smart as a chimp sometimes

[@longwaylongwaybch4933]

The way Flint Dibble was talking at the beginning you would think Graham Hancock wasn’t right there beside him 😂

[@MatterMyMind]

Hearing them dig at each other in professional ways is so funny. “That’s a very good idea flint, thank you”

[@thomascorsi3178]

No pun intended, I’m sure

[@jonathanbolanos5272]

@@thomascorsi3178that had to be intentional 😂

[@DrJonathanRoss]

Gentlemen, our egos are on the line! (And education is impugned.)

[@ThisHandleIsNotAvailable.]

😂

[@thomascorsi3178]

@@jonathanbolanos5272 it’s almost more impressive if it wasn’t

[@bendagostino2217]

3.6 million views in 4 days and still counting for a 4 hour debate on archaeology is insane in a good way.

[@ta.bespoke]

That's not including Spotify and the other platforms

[@lcfflc3887]

so now they load the full shows here? before it was only like 10 to 20 minutes clips.

[@bendagostino2217]

@@lcfflc3887 yeah full episodes are back.

[@mjzenbar]

16.5 million by 4/21 on KZbin alone. This is huge

[@FoxyDrew]

Plenty of educational KZbinrs get 10 million + views per video. People wanna learn, that never went away. Dumb people are just louder.

[@panzeralienofficial]

Flint Dibble is the Mojo Jojo of archaeology

[@ledrociam]

This was so disappointing to watch. I was really hoping Graham would show up with some amount of evidence. But again he showed up and only talked about how fringe thoughts get ridiculed. If he actually had evidence then he wouldn't need to worry about being ridiculed.

[@indiecommercials]

Rogan is incredibly fair in this debate. I am really impressed because he’s obviously such a huge friend and fan of Hancock but Joe holds Hancock accountable and questions him in the same way as Flint, and is very open to listening to the evidence from both sides.

[@Technique787]

Nah, goy Jo loves Hancock aliens DMT theories

[@olemanyounger5040]

Graham had no evidence.

[@playernumber3.]

@@olemanyounger5040 exactly he even confessed it during the episode.

[@wdxawwacawc6910]

Pics that "look like" stuff is not evidence ffs, thats exactly whar science is about. There is no "looks like", evidence and conclusions are verifiably testable, if they canr be tested then its a hypothesis. Graham has no evidence

[@_el.guapo_]

Joe dished some nasty blows to each of them. Like that one was funny: 1:06:50 "I don't think it's the computer's problem".

[@TheAceOfOnes]

Petition to have Rogan host a 4 hour presidential debate ^^^

[@crakhaed]

Idk if either candidate would survive 😂 also they'd probably try and bomb threat the studio if they actually tried to hold it 😅

[@overkill1025]

i wouldnt be surprised if there was no debate

[@Bluesmata]

Would be the most watched video

[@hwoods01]

Wont work. Rogan would be honest, fair, and equal. Thats not allowed.

[@rollingtide2277]

Have Graham Hancock in there too to keep things fresh

[@jessechavarria2744]

I just wanna know why 4:17:45 was muted out for a few seconds 👀

[@woodyeduk1]

This is easily one of the best episodes. Bloody brilliant 👏

[@Mandatory406.5]

This is Zack Galifianakis’s best performance since Baskets.

[@kennadyyoung8237]

It's not Zack, its Mini-Zack

[@JonnyMudMower]

Zack with aids

[@anonymousghost7210]

@@kennadyyoung8237 Mini-Zack destroys Mini-Claudio Ranieri

[@DefferJohn]

You would have gotten more likes if you wrote: "Best performance since Due Date".

[@ChunkyJo]

His twin brother was up for the role until Zach swooped in last minute

[@mohamedalmadani9107]

It should be mandatory for presidential candidates to debate the opposition on Rogan.

[@Rebel_1]

I just had this exact thought.

[@DH-.]

Jamie pull up the chart of the inflammation rate

[@itzspartan5524]

@@DH-. inflation rate* lmao

[@peted7891]

​@@itzspartan5524inflammation rate 😂😂😂 wait, let him cook lmao

[@ozz2762]

Trump wont even do a normal debate with 2 minute answers so good luck

[@mikenukem]

Each specialist focused on specific color of pixels trying to make an image with all missing pixels. Props to all involved.

[@docgreenemachine]

Flint did a great job showing evidence.

[@Ds07777]

Flint Dibbled Littlecock back into the ice age

[@jeffreymcguirk134]

Flint made some seriously compelling arguments. I started watching this video thinking Grahams was going to stump flint on a couple of topics. But now I’m feeling that flint was very convincing.

[@Ds07777]

Exactly. I used to love Graham. This talk exposed him.

[@VesnaVK]

Watch DeDunked multipart series. Much of what Flint said is untrue, or misleading. For instance, scientists say that it appears rice has been domesticated and feralized multiple times. Also, when he cites 3 million shipwrecks, he doesn't mention that the bulk of these are from modern times, nor that only 1% of them have been explored. Many more examples of evasion -- very interesting. (DeDunked is a channel that has been heavily critical of Hancock as well as of his opponents.)

[@MiscLondonGuy]

Graham’s just a fraudster who makes a living misrepresenting the work of archeologists and then insulting them when he’s called out.

[@betterhousehome6395]

3.1M people tuning in for an archeological debate is insane! Joe Rogan did it again

[@Punished_Trump]

Dude, this is how it should be!

[@angustiberius3399]

Flint's hat doesn't look very dusty...

[@ceglastymonster7799]

I listened to it on spotify so these numers are not evem close i think

[@yocs_nav]

16.5 as of this post

[@matthewt4283]

Just on YT....

[@markbubb9902]

I can't believe how much I have missed the comments section...pure gold.

[@MRRookie232]

Exactly this. Listening to this podcast on Spotify without the comment section is not the same experience.

[@josecezar7903]

So fucking true!

[@wooorm47]

here here

[@Ar1AnX1x]

2:15:38 Hancock kept trying to paint a bad image of Flint instead of actually having any arguments about his 'evidence' you know someone doesn't have a point when instead of putting forward arguments they just try to character assassinate you

[@brentinjapan]

Graham: Boo hoo! Nobody is working hard enough to prove my theory. Flint: We've found lots of stuff from 12,000 years ago - no support for your theory. Graham: You're NOT WORKING HARD ENOUGH!! Look! Carved rocks from 12,000 years ago! Me: I can carve rocks.

[@mattyice2504]

To Flint, Graham, and Joe: thank you so much for doing this. This is the type of discussion that the internet desperately needs.

[@remziontop]

I can’t tell if you’re joking but I genuinely enjoy this content.

[@plet774]

Yea, but now I can’t go on believing some ancient advanced civilization, and feel like I wasted my time watching ancient apocalypse. Graham kind of a fake scientist. “You’re a tourist, I dig”

[@blakeg7062]

Yeah….no

[@and__lam1152]

As someone who's drank ayahuasca, and undergoing the deep philosophical questions this journey requires... my man in the hat clearly has not. I therefore find anything he has to say completely irrelevant. Call me biased ... but his tone of voice is not authentic

[@pc9695]

@@and__lam1152 You did an ayahuasca trip so evidence for things is now invalid? What are you talking about

[@vipnetworker]

3.3 million people watched this video in just 3 days! (On KZbin alone) A 4.5 hour nerd debate on archeology. Fascinating.

[@oldtownscouts3712]

Goes to show where people's interest really lies haha

[@josefinandersson7646]

Dude, its about humian history and the beginning of it that people are interested in, not the archiology it self.

[@pugs909]

Conspiracy theories, not archeology

[@jorgemartinez42069]

​@@pugs909Yep, this is exactly it. If you see all the rabid Hancock fans commenting on his appearances, what they fixate on is the conspiracy angle with the archaeology as a distant second. It's just another example of how gullible the average person is. They want to be entertained more than use critical thinking skills.

[@zVampiirePlatypus]

​@@jorgemartinez42069I bet you comment "source!?" in comments 20 times a day to feel good about yourself.

[@redwanmorsli8855]

Flint is so intelligent smart and funny a réel caractère bring him back again plz

[@-Gumbo]

2:34:09 Joe states clear facts to Graham, and surprise surprise Graham denies them "not persuaded in this case". 2:36:10 Joe shut's Graham down for trying to talk about someone 20yrs later......Joe is seeing through Grahams façade. Good on you Joe 👍

[@derekstemhagen2226]

I came here from Spotify just for the comments and that was the best decision I’ve ever made

[@MaxOcarto]

The whole podcast was HamCock crying about how mean the other big boys are to him. Mean while Mr.Pebbles is bringing the science :D

[@manasesa.davila1828]

Must have a boring life.

[@royaldesignpythonsorionjon720]

Me too!!! lol flint is a pip squeak

[@MaxOcarto]

@@royaldesignpythonsorionjon720 HamCock got DIBBLED

[@vivekvicky2595]

exactly lol. i listen to these at 5am when I go for a walk with my dog,. I really feel grateful

[@psyched.shelby5391]

Flint Dibble looks like he is either 25 or 75. it’s extraordinary.

[@stevenhetzel6483]

Like how water can be liquid, solid and gas under the right conditions, this dude is a walking triple-point of age. 25, 50 and 75 all at the same time.

[@JeanClaudVanDabb]

Flint defies the laws of physics like quantum photosynthesis

[@gamerbum9350]

Hilarious. I literally laughed out loud at your comment.

[@Marty4Life]

Hahaha

[@anthonybeltran6144]

No, he dad'nt. He said DAD again. Drink.

[@sagethealchemist]

This is better than the Drake and Kendrick Lamar rap beef lol

[@420evaday7]

Archaeologists beef hit different

[@terrycruise-zd5tw]

graham isnt an archelogist though, theres only 1 in the room

[@Doug.the.welder-hj6cq]

I wish this was a monthly episode. Where 2 different opinions of an interesting subject debate their points. Really interesting.

[@PS_ItsMe]

Yes! Underrated comment.

[@patrickbatemanscousin]

Minus the childlike bickering and name calling by the cosplay side.

[@nathangibson6832]

Minus the fact that Graham Hancock is an intellectual hack with no integrity. I'd appreciate 2 actual learned opinions though

[@RcKtje]

Agree, this is great. And Joe is letting the bickering happen, which I really like too, we are seeing a very pure debate.

[@ksumrz]

Yeah but I wish it was 2 actual experts arguing the actual frontier of their subject rather than 1 expert and 1 crackpot.

[@ObsoleteTutorials]

This is how debates of all kinds should be conducted: long-form. Thank god for internet videos. shows on TV be cutting and shit.

[@DivineMHH]

we will be back after this commercial break

[@robertiny12345]

Apart from flint saying “much of the Sahara has been done for archaeology, must of which is by my dad”… daddy’s done less than 1% of it. absolute child he is

[@Mossy179]

I hardly call this a debate. More like watching a child with the intelligence of Fred Flintstone (yes, Flint) attempt to humiliate and prove Hancock uses baseless theories, fall flat on his face like an insecure little boy pretending to be more intelligent/capable than he really is. What's most disappointing is that looking through the comments around here, people are falling for it and taking Flint's side. Sign of the times and the absolute ignorance the world has fallen into. Bravo, Mr. Hancock, for literally sitting through such a childish exchange.

[@khaledtaha4814]

@@Mossy179 would you be so kind to point at one "baseless theory" Flint used? if anything, you should know better why people are taking Flint's side, Hancock had nothing for 4 hours to say except for "this is not enough data to refute my widely irrefutable hypothesis" .

[@jonfaxonhall236]

😅

[@MCLV1155]

Why is this a debate at all? Compared to any other scientific research. Imagine scientists had to defend themselves every time they're on to something

[@whoisjoe5610]

Archeology ain't a science

[@MCLV1155]

@@whoisjoe5610 you need evidence and proof. It is a science whenever it is politically convenient

[@whatabouttheearth]

Yeah, Hancock is a psuedoscience charlatan

[@whatabouttheearth]

Yeah, Hancock is a psuedoscience charlatan

[@jamesthegiantkiller1]

“Imagine scientists had to defend themselves every time they’re onto something” Oh boy do I have something to tell you about science

[@appadooviresh2738]

Damn, that's some rare communication debats 🔥 great podcast again. Joe and his guest aced this. Mature approach. 🎉

[@chrisgarciahostof-isitjust6697]

I think Graham is saying just cause you surveyed 5 floors of a 100 story building, doesn't mean you know what is on the other floors. Flints point I think is we know these 5 floors in this building all have these common traits, so the others will as well. My read on it at least.

[@gumborambo4540]

I agree and Flint's point is very narrowed. That assumption IS Graham's point and has great plausibility. Graham is honestly defending his show as Fiction, and I understand that.

[@williamrey9208]

Love the metaphor. Well said.

[@OGRE_HATES_NERDS]

yeah in other words flint is a moron lol

[@OnDeadDogs]

Yea that and stop saying we don’t know what’s on the other floors that makes you racists 😂

[@zicarlovanaalderen5342]

No it's more like Graham is claiming there could be a secret CIA lab on one of those 100 floors, and Flint saying that based on the 5 floors they've been to, there doesn't seem to be an indication of a secret CIA lab, because then you would see some indications on the other floors of specialized utilities to support the lab (dedicated HVAC, specialized plumbing, separated cables), paraphernalia associated with the lab, etc. etc. etc..