Grain Types: Tabular, Cubic, Core/Shell - Choosing B&W Film

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Lina Bessonova

Lina Bessonova

Күн бұрын

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@dominicknepper2082
@dominicknepper2082 2 жыл бұрын
I understand the technical data and reasons behind the different films, but the graphics really help to give me a different perspective and deeper understanding. Thank you!
@jollyjumper3333
@jollyjumper3333 Жыл бұрын
Such an informative Video, thanks for that. As someone who makes his own prints as a hobby I still try to figure out what actually influences the final look of the photos, and this helps a lot with knowing what different kinds of film do. My current ranking is the following: - proper exposure: if something is underexposed or completely overexposed you're not going to fix it in printing - developer: seems to have a big influence on the grain that appears in the final picture - film speed: higher speed films seem to get more grainy - the type of film: that surprised me, but it seems to make a way smaller difference than I thought before, the biggest thing that I noticed is that formapan films seem to have very little shadow detail, but otherwise all the other factors seem to have a way bigger impact. Soo, that's my experience so far, if anybody has a good tip im happy to hear it :D
@Aar69
@Aar69 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for providing good quality information that is easy to digest. Definitely helps me make better, wise decisions with my own photography.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
You're most welcome!
@qnetx
@qnetx 2 жыл бұрын
I love your technical descriptions and how you are able to convey them in a clear and concise way. I also admire the knowledge you have acquired with your vast experience and your willingness and ability to share it with the world. Thank you for sharing!
@CristianGeelen
@CristianGeelen 2 жыл бұрын
For beginners or not. You did some amazing research. :)
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@joefaracevideos
@joefaracevideos 2 жыл бұрын
You took what could be an overly technical subject about film and not only made it understandable but fun to watch as well. Thanks, Lina.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching! Happy that my love for technical subjects can be useful!
@bryanotero123
@bryanotero123 Жыл бұрын
@@linabessonova where can i buy that shirt. For a friend
@stevebills2427
@stevebills2427 2 жыл бұрын
You did some amazing research on this. Thank you for such a wonderful informative video.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the support!
@carltanner9065
@carltanner9065 2 жыл бұрын
You should take up teaching, Lina. You're very good at taking what can be heavy subjects and making them fun and informative. Great video!! :)
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Carl! I love teaching a lot
@RonEMarks
@RonEMarks 2 жыл бұрын
Love this info! Thanks for sharing it concisely and without cliche jazzy keyboard/drums soundtrack that all film folks seem to use in videos! :) Cheers!
@rick-fstop-lewis
@rick-fstop-lewis 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode!! Saves me the time of figuring it out myself...LOL Happy shooting!! Love your channel.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I am doing stuff that I wish I had when I was starting !
@stigofthedump4058
@stigofthedump4058 2 жыл бұрын
The best summary and explanation of the difference between tabular and core-shell I've ever seen/read 👏👏👏
@wreckingpress7080
@wreckingpress7080 2 жыл бұрын
I've been shooting film since I was a kid in the 90s and I definitely learned somethings. Thanks for taking the time to research this beast of a subject. Your presentation was great!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoyed it!
@alvinbirdi6502
@alvinbirdi6502 2 жыл бұрын
This is a great series of videos. Looking forward to more!
@BriansPhotoShow
@BriansPhotoShow 2 жыл бұрын
A very well-researched and informative video. You obviously did your homework. Nicely done.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Weeks... even months of homework!
@paulstillwell
@paulstillwell 2 жыл бұрын
Incredibly good information explained very, very well! Thanks for this! Great video!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@gemista
@gemista 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! Very well put together! I have found that Fomapan 100 can be shot perfectly fine from 50-3200 ASA- in fact, up to 800 ASA, I had a hard time differentiating them from 100 exposed shots!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Fomapan 100 is a classical grain film, so it gotta be flexible! Actually I feel that Foma films are really underrated
@theobsoletecamera5051
@theobsoletecamera5051 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for your informative videos! They are incredibly useful not only for beginners but also for more experienced photographers as they help to get deeper understanding of film emulsions.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Happy you enjoyed it!
@el_pableras
@el_pableras 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative and knowledgeable video, as always. Thanks! And now I need that t-shirt
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! And T shirts, at some point, I will print them for sale :)
@batslog
@batslog 2 жыл бұрын
This is the best video of all the photography videos.
@fredmccarroll3476
@fredmccarroll3476 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice informative video Lina! I had to share this to my Facebook page!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing! :)
@adriancullen8159
@adriancullen8159 2 жыл бұрын
Terrific video, packed with well researched content. I learnt plenty despite shooting film for many years !
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Happy you liked it!
@cdgarcia
@cdgarcia 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I appreciate the deep dive into film tech. I thought I was the only with this type interest. Great content
@g1234538
@g1234538 Жыл бұрын
Wow, this video was wonderfully researched! I really like your presentation style and the lengths you went to find answers about the sigma grain haha! Your channel is great!!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova Жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! It took long to research, but it was a lot of fun too!
@kniganastole
@kniganastole Жыл бұрын
Great great video with trusted information! About the fixing times, I also noticed that tabular grain films usually require much more time than classic grain films. But, on the other hand, Tri-X takes much more time than Fomapan 200. So, other factors must also play a role when it comes to fixing times. I'm looking forward to watching new videos from you!
@lingxiaogao7382
@lingxiaogao7382 2 жыл бұрын
(Redirect from your latest interview posted by Ilford China) This is an amazing video and resolve many of my doubts !
@steven1000000000
@steven1000000000 2 жыл бұрын
In "The Film Developing Cookbook" by Bill Troop and Steven Anchell on pg.12 and 16 they list Foma 200 under mixed grain.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
which is quite probably what it is, by all indications. Foma itself claims it to be tabular, but yeah, probably not 90% like Tmax
@Uwe_Ludolf
@Uwe_Ludolf 2 жыл бұрын
For beginners or not, always nice to see you being passionate about what you do 😁 What do you shoot the most lately?
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Kodak T-Max 400 for a work project (construction sites), Delta 100 for personal work, and HR-50 to generate content for Adox :)
@jasperdegrood
@jasperdegrood 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this great serie so far!
@domenicorastelli6906
@domenicorastelli6906 2 жыл бұрын
Great explanation and lovely graphics too! I am hoping for a long series of these videos ;-)
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Every video takes A LOT of work - so I hope to continue, but next episode won't be soon!
@BackFocus11
@BackFocus11 2 жыл бұрын
You’re awesome!! These film instruction videos are great!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@oudviola
@oudviola 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lina this is super informative for understanding these different films. I did a side by side comparison with my Bronica GS-1 with film backs loaded with FP4 and Delta 100, shot the same scenes and developed in parallel. Results were almost identical. But shooting Deltas more casually outdoors I lose a lot more frames to exposure range problems so I don't use them regularly. Also if I want no grain and max sharpness, I just go digital!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
If you want no grain, you could shoot a super-low ISO film. CMS 20 from Adox in Adotech developer has such tiny grain, it's impossible to focus with the enlarger :)
@oudviola
@oudviola 2 жыл бұрын
@@linabessonova True, good point.
@dinomarcantonioaia8921
@dinomarcantonioaia8921 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Really informative, and charmingly communicated.
@Bro_nica
@Bro_nica 2 жыл бұрын
How good was that! Keep this series going!
@mariacristinaparadiso
@mariacristinaparadiso 2 жыл бұрын
greatfull Lina, good explanation!
@jsfotografie
@jsfotografie 2 жыл бұрын
love it Lina
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Janosch, happy you liked it! HP5 or Tri-X are both incredibly flexible. I just happened to have more experience with HP5!
@Kari-SF
@Kari-SF 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Lina, I'm gonna have to watch it again, there is a lot of interesting information in here. Also, I love your t-shirt, where did you get it?
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Happy you liked it! T-shirt, I designed myself :) Probably I should make a few for sale
@Kari-SF
@Kari-SF 2 жыл бұрын
@@linabessonova You should definitely publish it in a place like Threadless that ship worldwide.
@ImperiousImages
@ImperiousImages 2 жыл бұрын
Well done! So much information and great comparisons
@lapoupadotcom
@lapoupadotcom Жыл бұрын
This was great! Hope you make more videos like this
@stakkanovfriman2838
@stakkanovfriman2838 2 жыл бұрын
thank you so much. never heard of tabular grain before, i thought it was tubular grain as in hollow cylinders and not at all did i consider that they were the same as t-grain
@GAROBERBERIAN
@GAROBERBERIAN 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Lina was asking myself the same question a couple of weeks ago :))
@Vincent171090
@Vincent171090 2 жыл бұрын
A much needed video!
@TheNegative
@TheNegative 2 жыл бұрын
This video is incredible! Very informative.
@erickvalerio3523
@erickvalerio3523 2 жыл бұрын
Very great video, Amazing. More videos like this. Saludos de México 🙏🏽
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@lxhk3595
@lxhk3595 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy your style of presenting
@film.fiasco
@film.fiasco Жыл бұрын
omg I learned SO much from this video! You got yourself a new sub 🥰!
@Bunnyisms
@Bunnyisms 2 жыл бұрын
One of the things I still wish is that you could get the Fuji Acros II in sheet films. I'm really used to shooting Foma 100 sheets and dealing with the reciprocity failure, but Acros II saves so much time because you don't have to compensate as much for reciprocity. It's like magic. I do close up scenes indoors, often with available light and more bellows draw. The combination of smaller aperture and bellows factor means I have some long exposures on many films.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
I have one pack of 4x5 Acros from probably seven years ago... Extra nice film indeed!
@RichardPilon
@RichardPilon 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and information. For 35mm film scanning, which gives the best results: Epson V600, Plustek 8200iai or using a DSLR?
@Francois_L_7933
@Francois_L_7933 2 жыл бұрын
"Fuji is cryptic", this made me laugh. But like Marshall McLuhan once said: "Mud gives the illusion of depth". This applies so much to big film marketing.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Ah, you're quoting my university crush!
@SinaFarhat
@SinaFarhat 2 жыл бұрын
Great and informative video! Have a good week!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, you too!
@philipu150
@philipu150 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your emphasis on getting reliable information, even at the expense of your self-embarrassment, which is funny - and, let's be honest - most of us have made plenty of such errors repeating hearsay. Glad to see a new video from you here; I don't follow the social media (can you tell I'm old?). My info is that the rebound in film photography continues strong, which is gratifying. Best wishes to you.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
If you don't have social media, it can be an indicator of age... or just a very good balanced life! And yes, I'm amazed I actually did believe this nonsense.
@philipu150
@philipu150 2 жыл бұрын
@@linabessonova True confessions of what we have all believed at some point (as, presumably, adults) would unfortunately become a viral phenomenon, best left alone. At least some of us can say, we learned our lesson. THAT'S what should go viral.
@goodmorning2570
@goodmorning2570 Жыл бұрын
This is a great vid! Thanks and I'm a subscriber now.
@wagnerlungov1825
@wagnerlungov1825 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video!
@patternsinsand
@patternsinsand 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this very useful video. I never realised Fomapan 200 was a t-grain film. Makes me wonder why everything shot with it still looks like sandpaper soaked in bilge water.
@ripemangosmdm7997
@ripemangosmdm7997 2 жыл бұрын
this is brilliant and very helpful, thank you so much. I'm curious about your shirt though! where did you get it? did you make it? I would love to get one.
@brianentz2785
@brianentz2785 2 жыл бұрын
One of your best ever. Maybe the best. Questions: How about the difference between classical and T grain as far as pushing and as far as Stand Developing? I’d be interested in knowing that.
@nillich-x4e
@nillich-x4e 10 ай бұрын
Hi Lina, it is an amazing educational video! I'm doing a tiny part of my research on the chemistry of black-and-white photographic film in my thesis, and I can't find nowhere reliable sources regarding the tabular grain emulsion in B&W film negative. Do you maybe mind sharing a few of them? Thank you!
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 10 ай бұрын
Heyy! All my sources were basically Kodak, Fuji and other photo companies' patents from Google Scholar, and also some photography magazines which published news and articles in the 80s-90s. Just search for "tab grain" "tabular grain" "kodak T-max' "T grain" etc on Google Scholar, and you'll find a lot of information. It's extremely scattered out though. Took me several months to read through all of it and get a somewhat clear picture - which is still, I believe, not complete.
@nillich39
@nillich39 6 ай бұрын
@@linabessonova Thank you so much! ❤ In the meantime, I found some articles, however, the search is still ongoing and I truly appreciate your advice!
@unknownartdivision
@unknownartdivision 2 жыл бұрын
Very informative, thank you. I want to try some experiments with off camera flash with portraits, and after some research, I think I will try some Ilford delta 100, in the beginning in 35, if I like the results probably even in 120. In your opinion what is a really good developer for Delta 100? I already have HC-110, but I want to try something new. I have heard really nice things about Adox XT-3, that is basically XTOL, but a lot better and less a pain to mix. What do you think about it? But if you have an even better suggestion, I'm listening thank you :)
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
Delta 100 is my one love! But I do not like it in Xtol/XT-3, because the film is already pretty flat, and Xtol makes it basically even softer. I process it in Adox FX-39, my favorite developer ever. You should absolutely try it!
@unknownartdivision
@unknownartdivision 2 жыл бұрын
@@linabessonova Thank you for your reply. I will give FX-39 a go then :)
@AustenGoldsmithPhotography
@AustenGoldsmithPhotography 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got a cool looking analog camera and a beard ! Sounds like I missed my chance to impress you !
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
:) :)
@Netcom27
@Netcom27 2 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic. T-grain is cheaper to produce, yet both Delta and Tmax are pricier than classic grain emulsions. Great and very informative video! Tbh I knew most of that but you managed to conclude all that knowledge into digestible and easy to understand summary ;)
@ПолотенцеВафельное
@ПолотенцеВафельное 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, Lina, but.. I miss so much the example photos taken with the each of the discussed films!!! It would be a way better if you show it additionaly to the explanation. Just an advice for the next video..
@lift-nutter1704
@lift-nutter1704 27 күн бұрын
@linabessonova does film grain only become visible in too low and too high lighting.if the lighting conditions are moderate wil you not notice any grain as long as you don't magnify the image.
@algrano-fotografia4338
@algrano-fotografia4338 Жыл бұрын
Great video!!
@richardsimms251
@richardsimms251 Жыл бұрын
Great talk
@DynoosHD
@DynoosHD 10 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thank you
@zhengricky5446
@zhengricky5446 2 жыл бұрын
pls continue with color film grain
@dmitrysysoletin9967
@dmitrysysoletin9967 Жыл бұрын
А что скажете о плёнке Rollei?
@Granpi
@Granpi 9 ай бұрын
Immensely helpful, Thanks!
@Notmy00000
@Notmy00000 2 жыл бұрын
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏❤️
@user-ti9zc1xv2b
@user-ti9zc1xv2b 2 жыл бұрын
I'm almost certain today's Acros 100 is made by llford with their emulstion making machines and thus bound to core-shell
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
I do not have 100% info whether Ilford makes the Acros emulsions, or coats them, or only finishes into cassettes. But if they were to make Fuji Acros, they could.
@TristanColgate
@TristanColgate Жыл бұрын
I didn't realise foma200 was tabular! (it is s pretty great film).
@daphnepk
@daphnepk Жыл бұрын
I want that T shirt! 😄
@Nikonisti_ita
@Nikonisti_ita 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, 2 Nikon!
@user-kcrpine
@user-kcrpine 2 жыл бұрын
Half blue hair is an improvement. Perhaps in a few years you’ll reach potential.
@christianmayrhofer4178
@christianmayrhofer4178 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, the Tmax has T-shaped grain, I was told that 30 years ago to me. Seems to be a popular myth.
@rockyravine1155
@rockyravine1155 2 жыл бұрын
I would add, Tabular films are not good for difficult/uncontrolable lighting situations; like street photography.
@linabessonova
@linabessonova 2 жыл бұрын
That's right! This also goes with latitude, but you're right, I could've been more explicit about that
@carlosoruna7174
@carlosoruna7174 2 жыл бұрын
Nothing like trix exposed at 200 iso and developed one shot d76 1to1
@marcdeckard7064
@marcdeckard7064 2 жыл бұрын
Watch out Lina, leaning over the chemical trays can turn your hair blue.
@dolnoslaski345
@dolnoslaski345 Жыл бұрын
Mom, can we have Tmax 400 at home? No, son, we have Tmax at home *Tmax at home = Fomapan 200*
@АлександрТолстоухов-ъ2р
@АлександрТолстоухов-ъ2р 2 жыл бұрын
Как из Инстаграмм ушёл, так и потерял тебя.
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