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Grand Pas Classique (Female Variation): Somova, Guillem, Dronina

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2 жыл бұрын

Grand Pas Classique (Female Variation) performed by Alina Somova, Sylvie Guillem, Jurgita Dronina. Enjoy and don't forget to support these beautiful ballerinas and their companies!
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@normezmoi
@normezmoi 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvie Guillem is the best. Her body is absolute perfection for a dancer and her grace and her lines are over the moon.
@user-ri9di7ox2p
@user-ri9di7ox2p 2 жыл бұрын
Согласен, хотя Сомова тоже хороша.
@levondelite4072
@levondelite4072 2 жыл бұрын
It’s just Sylvie Guillem all day long for me. Thank you so much for treating us to all 3 of these talented dancers.
@amaliamariagagliazzilage8358
@amaliamariagagliazzilage8358 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvia Guillem’s lines are simply out of this world
@rascaypica73
@rascaypica73 Жыл бұрын
Dronina is like the example of "No,you better don't". Not for her line,not for her at all. This variation is perfect for Guillem. Just perfection
@makhnonatalie2600
@makhnonatalie2600 Жыл бұрын
Agree with you in full
@green4est
@green4est 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvie Guillem! I can't compare her to anybody) ... and I also love Somova! Thank You very much, as always enjoy your video!
@neyfonsecajunior
@neyfonsecajunior 2 жыл бұрын
I think comparing Guillem with other ballerinas is mostly a waste of time (sort of like with Baryshnikov, too). They were both way ahead of their time and their delivery, technique, acting and musicality are still unsurpassed, over thirty years later!
@Got2Bespoke
@Got2Bespoke 2 жыл бұрын
I am in absolute agreement with your comment. 👏
@galinapopov909
@galinapopov909 2 жыл бұрын
Up to her retirement S.Guillem was the highest payed female ballerina and she is indeed a top performer. However, I wouldn’t dare to diminish or devalue a perfectly danced variation by a prima of Mariinsky, well known for her beautiful long legs, elegance , great technique, great level of confidence based on dancing without mistakes and long hours of practicing. S. Guillem is a legend but Alina Somova is blossoming as principal of Mariinsky and she is incredible and she is absolutely pro and gorgeous in Grand pas classique.
@maretabester9784
@maretabester9784 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@ellaking703
@ellaking703 Жыл бұрын
Love the musicality of Guillem, and the lines of Somova. However, for me, the most incredibly gorgeous Grand Pas Classique belongs to Diana Vishneva.
@nathaliemargaritatabinas7823
@nathaliemargaritatabinas7823 4 ай бұрын
@@ellaking703diana vishneva’s variation is so underrated!!!
@natcat555
@natcat555 2 жыл бұрын
Somova 💙
@Cat-no8ts
@Cat-no8ts 2 жыл бұрын
Guillem is my favorite (I absolutely love her pointe!) but this really shows how all of these dancers brought their individual perfections to this piece..no doubt! The first one really expressed a unique style. The third one was also beautiful ...a bit more "natural", I thought, but all were fantastic! It's actually difficult to choose! I had the awesome privilege to dance ballet for nearly 20 yrs. Fabulous experience. I wouldn't trade it for the world!
@user-yy1ps3jh8m
@user-yy1ps3jh8m Жыл бұрын
Сомова блеск! Браво👏👏👏
@candidak.
@candidak. 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvie is the best, though I've seen her doing much better in this variation, but still the best of the three
@robertmcnamara5407
@robertmcnamara5407 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I love Guillem but Dronina just does it for me. All three are stunning by the way.
@mundamadi--moucheamadi7147
@mundamadi--moucheamadi7147 2 жыл бұрын
Alina and Silvie,. Amazing!! They Dance with intens feeling. Specially Sylvie made me share some tears thank you. Brava!!,👐👐💞🌷🌷🌷🌷
@mauriziopaggio6970
@mauriziopaggio6970 2 жыл бұрын
Silvye Guillem the best ever! stratospheric lines, kilometric legs, exaggeratedly beautiful feet, angelic face, Soft arms in harmony with the perfect body for ballet, perfect interpretation, very clean in the movements, amazing technique! in short: Perfection in ballet is Silvye Guillem 😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
@tiziana327
@tiziana327 Жыл бұрын
in this video Guillem is very young. There is another one in which she is a few years older, and believe me she is something sublime... thank you for existing ❤️
@beatapogorzelska1241
@beatapogorzelska1241 Ай бұрын
Sylvie - a legend. The rest is great but Sylvie was born to dance this piece.
@jeannedarc1311
@jeannedarc1311 2 жыл бұрын
Алина Сомова , звезда мирового балета ! Вагановская школа первая в мире !
@kleineoOoStern
@kleineoOoStern Ай бұрын
She's amazing but on this variation Sylvie Gillem is better I think
@Got2Bespoke
@Got2Bespoke 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvie set the bar high and she did it at the beginning of her career. Imho, she reigns supreme in all that she danced.
@parisballetcom
@parisballetcom 2 жыл бұрын
Elegance characterize the french style. I love Alina, but here the elegance is Sylvie from the beging to the end, from feet to head, from left hand to right hand. Sylvie's leg lifts are always unique. Furthermore, the diagonal balonnes in Croisé with the turn en dehors is much more elegant too.
@insaelliott9464
@insaelliott9464 2 жыл бұрын
They were all lovely but this variation was made for Guillem. Those feet!
@green4est
@green4est 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely agree!
@kreul8736
@kreul8736 2 жыл бұрын
made for Guillem ? Sorry not, "made" for la Grande Chauviré. Mademoiselle Chauviré rehearse with Sylvie at opera ballet school. And Guillem is a total respect of french school ballet
@insaelliott9464
@insaelliott9464 2 жыл бұрын
@@kreul8736 I didn't mean that it was originally choreographed on Guillem. Simply that this variation shows off her attributes exquisitely
@kreul8736
@kreul8736 2 жыл бұрын
@@insaelliott9464 ok! have a nice day
@ulan1408
@ulan1408 2 жыл бұрын
Сомова понравилась больше остальных. В ее исполнения вариация выглядит легкой и изящной.
@pedrogarciarias129
@pedrogarciarias129 2 жыл бұрын
En este video Somova es sublime, aérea, ligera, estilizada en las piruetas y la proporción gestos/ manos/ brazos es perfecta.BRAVA!
@nadinelandry7092
@nadinelandry7092 Жыл бұрын
Sylvie Guillem est la grâce et la légèreté personnifiées.
@candidacarino669
@candidacarino669 2 жыл бұрын
I've always admired Alina Somova's performances - - and I specifically love her "Queen of the Dryads" in Don Quixote. Thank you @ DanceLine Ballet - - for sharing.
@user-kr7hf8bo2l
@user-kr7hf8bo2l 3 ай бұрын
Somova ' Queen of Dryads ' is the world's masterpiece forever!❤❤❤
@barracuda3137
@barracuda3137 Жыл бұрын
Vince la somova per musicalità ed Eleganza.
@owlcu
@owlcu 2 ай бұрын
1:02 - 1:32 Her right foot never touches the ground and she's perfectly balanced throughout. The leg strength that must take, wow.
@SuperEfexor
@SuperEfexor 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvie for ever !
@cynthiafletcher9845
@cynthiafletcher9845 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful!! They are all incredibly talented to perform this difficult variation with great techniques and elegance. 💖💖💖Again, thank you!!💕
@Balletlover777
@Balletlover777 Жыл бұрын
Somova and Guillem are absolutely sublime!
@sergeypozdnyak7021
@sergeypozdnyak7021 2 жыл бұрын
Браво, Сильви!
@tiziana327
@tiziana327 Жыл бұрын
Sylvie Guillem does not dance, Sylvie Guillem is dance….❤️
@user-tz5hm3sr3i
@user-tz5hm3sr3i 2 жыл бұрын
Друзья, пжл , будьте деликатны в суждениях и критике. Сила балерины, прежде всего, в огромном трудолюбие, чтобы достигнуть результатов. У них разные школы и техники исполения, тем неменее, они красивы, легки и грациозны. Искусство танца доставляет нам эмоции радости и удовольствия. Спасибо за видео и возможность любоваться балеринами танцев Алины, Сильвии, Юргиты 🌞👍👍👍👏👏👏💞💞💞🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹
@creativecolours2022
@creativecolours2022 Жыл бұрын
Somova is great in this compilation and beats even Guillem because she is dancing a somewhat more difficult version of this variation very confidently with high energy and ease. Super powerful performance. It is not though right to compare dancers that were in different age during their performance. Guillem's f.e performance was filmed when she was hardly 20 years old, while Somova is somewhat older in her and more mature so even if she doesn't have Guillem's perfect lines she has advantage due to her maturity. Dronina now is not in the same level with the other two. She doesn't have the same level of technique and she doesn't even interpret in her own way this variation.
@nikoll8558
@nikoll8558 2 жыл бұрын
Алина браво!!!
@Dima.Demidov
@Dima.Demidov 2 жыл бұрын
No one compares to Sylvie Guillem 👏💖
@lsky4446
@lsky4446 2 жыл бұрын
Q👑EEN GUILLEM ABSOLUTELY ALWAYS!!!
@blh1294
@blh1294 2 жыл бұрын
absolutley amazing ❤ thank you so much for this
@eugengorlachov1657
@eugengorlachov1657 Жыл бұрын
Первая просто божественная ❤. Потом старательно отпрыгались две печальки 😢 - козочка кривоногая и коровка тяжеловесная... Да, хорошие гены талант не испортят!
@user-kr7hf8bo2l
@user-kr7hf8bo2l 3 ай бұрын
I love Somova and the version Malakhov and Tatyana Paliy
@qurbanshahkerimov1181
@qurbanshahkerimov1181 2 жыл бұрын
Super!
@makhnonatalie2600
@makhnonatalie2600 Жыл бұрын
Удивлена, что Сомова танцевала Обера, не помню этого. Судя по костюму, запись не в Мариинском театре. Очень понравилась.
@user-zb9uc5ir1w
@user-zb9uc5ir1w Ай бұрын
Somova is the one for me in this variation.
@martagrey1902
@martagrey1902 Жыл бұрын
Guillem per sempre....
@isabelaandzico
@isabelaandzico 2 жыл бұрын
Sylvite can do better than the other two with her eyes closed.
@adrianaclark8498
@adrianaclark8498 6 ай бұрын
Sylvie Guillem again and in every dance she does!
@hongfeizhao5709
@hongfeizhao5709 6 ай бұрын
Beautiful ❤
@kifayetmemmedova9099
@kifayetmemmedova9099 10 ай бұрын
Bravo, bravissimo 👍🏾👏👏👏👍🏾👍🏾💐💐💐🌹🌹🌹❤❤❤🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
@gabryc.3004
@gabryc.3004 2 жыл бұрын
Tutte e tre bravissime... Però a me è piaciuta molto molto di più la SOMOVA più flessibile elegante
@minissa2009
@minissa2009 2 жыл бұрын
I think Somova and Guillem are very young in these videos, and I think Sylvie's music was added over the video. I was unfamiliar with Dronina and felt this was filmed at an age when she had fully matured, but I'm just spitballing here. Do the people who are applauding Somova not see (maybe not familiar with the variation?) that she's the only person in the known universe to do the releves in efface rather than croise? I've seen dancers use the other leg and come down the opposite diagonal, but still in croise. I don't know if Somova made a mistake and fixed it as intelligently as she could, but it looks really awkward. And I don't know what the video editor was thinking, moving off her full body right as she did that little bit of exacting pointe work right after. I've seen Guillem own this piece, and maybe the lack of her usual fine musicality is due to her dancing on a marble floor plus I swear she's only 19 here----an etoile, to be sure, but she improved as she matured. Really interesting comparison video, thanks!
@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874
@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874 2 жыл бұрын
It was probably mistake. I've seen Somova do this live, and she did croisé.
@mochabubble
@mochabubble 2 жыл бұрын
Actually quite a few Russians, including Vishneva when I think she was a student has done that diagonal efface. I don't know why it happened and perhaps it was just from the specific coach who had done it that way.
@jaelzion
@jaelzion Жыл бұрын
It's Guillem for me. It's like this variation was made for her.
@gringa8862
@gringa8862 2 жыл бұрын
I lovely all variation! 😍😍😍🎊
@virusjonas
@virusjonas 2 жыл бұрын
There’s a brazilian girl who danced this, n she was like... REALLY REALLY GOOD.
@giorgiovolli7499
@giorgiovolli7499 2 жыл бұрын
Jurgita Dronina, sublime !!
@olgaputs
@olgaputs 2 жыл бұрын
Все трое великолепны
@fabs8498
@fabs8498 9 ай бұрын
❤Guillem❤️
@avesraggiana
@avesraggiana 2 жыл бұрын
I will say this - the Russian-trained dancers dance with a palpable energy emanating from their torso. Their backs are so alive. Guillem’s dancing looks dead in comparison. The only signs of life are in the legs and feet, everything else is dead upstairs. This is not just a slam on Sylvie Guillem. This “deadness” in the centre (core), seems to be a feature of the French school of ballet dancing.
@galinayepanchina6443
@galinayepanchina6443 2 жыл бұрын
This 'deadness', as you call it, is the fact that the French method focuses mainly on the legs and feet, likewise the Danish, or Bournville, method. In Russia, they focus more on the arms and back.
@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874
@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874 2 жыл бұрын
French focus more on legs and feet and Russian focus more on arms and back. It is just difference of the style.
@parisballetcom
@parisballetcom 2 жыл бұрын
Elegance characterize the french style. I love Alina, but here the elegance is Sylvie from the beging to the end, from feet to head, from left hand to right hand. Sylvie's leg lifts are always unique. Furthermore, the diagonal balonnes in Croisé with the turn en dehors is much more elegant too.
@levondelite4072
@levondelite4072 2 жыл бұрын
@@parisballetcom Yes, I much prefer the croise diagonal and en dehors turns.
@Danydanielballet
@Danydanielballet 2 жыл бұрын
Guillen Best Dancer world
@user-rn6bo4kp7l
@user-rn6bo4kp7l Жыл бұрын
サムネで惹かれました。 伸びやかさピカイチですね。この演目では最高の方。
@gummynoodles9036
@gummynoodles9036 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the pain of that one leg through the screen
@snejinas1
@snejinas1 Жыл бұрын
Sylvie Guillem!
@user-sh2lu2uc3u
@user-sh2lu2uc3u 2 жыл бұрын
Любоваться такими движениями можно бесконечно!
@hamtolyoon6610
@hamtolyoon6610 2 жыл бұрын
길렘은 너무 완벽해서 짜증이 다 날정도로군.... 췟 ㅠㅠ
@snejinas1
@snejinas1 6 ай бұрын
Somova
@BytomGirl
@BytomGirl 2 жыл бұрын
And no Alexandrova? She was the best and won gold medal in Moscow Competition with it in 1997.
@cynthiafletcher9845
@cynthiafletcher9845 2 жыл бұрын
Maria is spectacular!!! No contest, she's the best. 💕💕
@candidacarino669
@candidacarino669 2 жыл бұрын
To @ BytomGirl - - and to @ Cynthia Fletcher - - you're both quite right also - - the Grand Pas Classique dance of - - Tsiskaridze and Alexandova - - is quite stunning. I'd watched it several times.
@balletfanatic
@balletfanatic 6 ай бұрын
Am I the only one who feels that Sylvie Guillem and Misty Copeland aren't that amazing? I mean, sure, they're really good, but I personally feel like people make a bigger deal of them than they really are.
@graziellabosco8791
@graziellabosco8791 Жыл бұрын
Sono talmente brave che ho difficoltà a scegliere.
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Я Знаю что буду Шить❤
@martagrey1902
@martagrey1902 Жыл бұрын
Guillem ...
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Так Отдача Своему «Я» ❤
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Дармштадт! Здесь нет Ничего ...😮(((((
@iraklem5619
@iraklem5619 4 ай бұрын
Сомова хороша в этой вариации., не хуже Гюллем..
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Как Вы Все Видите?❤ Вижу через Бога!❤ это из Него Мои Знания .... это Молитва!❤😊
@antonyakubovskiy1887
@antonyakubovskiy1887 Жыл бұрын
Видна разница между мельтешением и эстетикой выверенных позиций ( па )
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Если Будет ? Вы прийдете?😊 конечно🎉😊
@natashavanova1157
@natashavanova1157 2 жыл бұрын
the first performer is simply the first, the dance and the role are just perfect, the second one has a good figure, but the dance is average, the third is just a nightmare
@giangualbertopi7381
@giangualbertopi7381 2 жыл бұрын
criticising SG port de bras is the most futile thing on Earth. point is, SG delivers a totally superior impression of this piece. 3rd dancer does not deserve to be here included, l dare not saying compared...
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Здесь осень Много Ошибок! России❤😊
@yandynestorperez7501
@yandynestorperez7501 11 ай бұрын
Where's Platel???????????
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Здесь Станет Проблема❤ .......😊 Решать Будут Долго@!>>Это Вода .......❤
@user-td9rc3rr3f
@user-td9rc3rr3f Жыл бұрын
Здесь Согласие Придёт если подпишите нашу Хитрость ....😂😊 Этого не Будет😂😊
@paulamiyaji7415
@paulamiyaji7415 2 жыл бұрын
🥰😍❤️🌹🇧🇷
@mauriziopaggio6970
@mauriziopaggio6970 2 жыл бұрын
Alina is pretty but she has never had nice feet. in the developed ones they look like irons.…. Unfortunately you can't have it all. For me so far only Silvye has the perfect ballet physique with an innate talent. She was born to be a star.
@agathaorezeanu491
@agathaorezeanu491 2 жыл бұрын
1.Guillem,2.Dronina,3.Somova.
@tangomz7070
@tangomz7070 Жыл бұрын
Somova should have never gone past corp.
@audreynellyamoussouakouala3431
@audreynellyamoussouakouala3431 2 жыл бұрын
FRIST
@galinayepanchina6443
@galinayepanchina6443 2 жыл бұрын
Guillem was painfully unmusical. She kicked her leg high, and wasn't on the music for a second. Somova was slightly off of the music, it was scarcely noticeable. However, she was quite nice here. Dronina was the most musical, but her technique was bad. Technically, Somova was the best, and musically, Dronina was the best. Guillem was unbearable to watch. I never liked her.
@musicloverlondon6070
@musicloverlondon6070 2 жыл бұрын
I went to see Guillem once at Royal Opera House in London. I had always enjoyed her dancing but when I and a group of fans were waiting outside in the cold hoping to see her come out of the stage door after the performance I was shocked and disappointed to see her reaction. She glared long and hard at the group of fans through the glass door and literally stamped her foot. Her face was very angry and I could see her mouth moving and hear that her voice was raised but could not hear what was being said (perhaps that was just as well!). This went on for several minutes in what, I'm afraid, looked exactly like a tantrum. The other dancers surrounding her in the foyer looked embarrassed and nobody else appeared to speak. I've often waited for other equally well-known performers following a ballet and I can certainly understand that they might be tired and not in the mood to see fans but I'd never experienced anything like that before. I noticed that none of the other dancers made any difficulty in also signing authographs for the group. It forever coloured my view of her, despite her dancing abilities. I could never bring myself to buy tickets to see her again as it would always recall to my mind the memory of that demonstration of sheer aggression and disdain. Usually, performers will sign a few autographs as they leave but this time they decided to open the door and let us into the foyer. I think most people felt they might as well go in as they had waited so long in the cold but I could tell others in the group were annoyed. I debated on leaving but in the end I went in and got her autograph - not because I wanted it, following that display, but because I knew that she grudged giving it. I don't doubt that her fans will be very unhappy with my criticism but I'm afraid no amount of talent or success excuses that sort of treatment of fans, many of whom have to struggle to afford a ticket and are, after all, the bread and butter of the arts. It happened many years ago but I've never forgotten it. I threw the autograph away shortly afterwards.
@galinayepanchina6443
@galinayepanchina6443 2 жыл бұрын
That's horrible! I never knew that she was so awful. It must have been terrible to see a dancer you liked so much acting like that!
@beatiroide
@beatiroide 2 жыл бұрын
@@musicloverlondon6070 Some artists should remember that without their fans they would be unemployed.
@musicloverlondon6070
@musicloverlondon6070 2 жыл бұрын
@@galinayepanchina6443 It's the one and only time I've ever had that kind of experience with a dancer after a performance. On the plus side Andris Liepa was lovely to the fans, having just danced the demanding role of Petroushka. Irek Mukhamedov, Yelena Pankova, Jonathan Cope and Stuart Cassidy were also great. All the dancers I met behaved with politeness. I don't wait outside stage doors any more but will always treasure my signed programmes and memories from those days.
@musicloverlondon6070
@musicloverlondon6070 2 жыл бұрын
@@beatiroide I couldn't agree more, especially when you consider how difficult it is for most ballet companies to make ends meet. Interestingly, although they appeared to feel awkward because of the situation, none of the dancers/staff around Sylvie at the time looked surprised. That made me wonder if perhaps it wasn't a one-off incident.
@beatiroide
@beatiroide 2 жыл бұрын
I find Somova unwatchable in this. Hideous technique.
@beatiroide
@beatiroide 2 жыл бұрын
@@anastasialenkova-molchalin5874 Many things: instability, poor alignment, even her pas de chat. She has a very flexible back but doesn't seem to be able to control it.
@levondelite4072
@levondelite4072 2 жыл бұрын
@@beatiroide Thanks for mentioning her pas de chat. I couldn’t decide if it was the angle of the camera or what, but they looked awful … especially compared to the other two. I seem to remember having that criticism about her before. I like her though, she’s very good in certain roles.
@tangomz7070
@tangomz7070 Жыл бұрын
@@beatiroide Terrible, terrible technique. Legs always turned in, no core, therefore, instability. I hope she got better since then, but I am not wasting my money to go watch that circus.
@user-tu8jp7qq7g
@user-tu8jp7qq7g 2 жыл бұрын
Дронина не топ балерина. Нет линий, нет красоты, она слабая классическая танцовщица.
@avesraggiana
@avesraggiana 2 жыл бұрын
I detest this variation intensely. In fact, I absolutely HATE IT with a white hot passion. Bye.
@galinayepanchina6443
@galinayepanchina6443 2 жыл бұрын
Why on earth do you keep going on to videos of this variation, then commenting about how much you hate it? Just don't watch it, no one wants to hear this!
@avesraggiana
@avesraggiana 2 жыл бұрын
@@galinayepanchina6443 I don’t know. Personality quirk, peculiar eccentricity, whatever…
@PLDB27
@PLDB27 2 жыл бұрын
@@avesraggiana ...or maybe you just love to hate...??
@avesraggiana
@avesraggiana 2 жыл бұрын
@@PLDB27 Could be.
@ioioioioio265
@ioioioioio265 Жыл бұрын
Comincio a vedere la faccia spenta della guillelm e già sbadiglio. La ginnastica non è tutto. Alina Somova, Russian do it better.
@user-li6xb5ub5i
@user-li6xb5ub5i 2 жыл бұрын
Everything is performed quite cleanly, but this is pure classics, requiring classic lines and proportions. Sylvie Guillem has short legs and insufficiently everted feet. Jurgita Dronina is not proportionally folded enough. Alina Somova performs as in a lesson, more inspiration would be. There is no tolerance in ballet, otherwise the meaning of ballet as an art is lost.
@user-zu8iz3yw3q
@user-zu8iz3yw3q Жыл бұрын
Dronina ist mediocre in comparison.
@garmonia-77
@garmonia-77 Жыл бұрын
Сильвия Гиллем лучше.
@martagrey1902
@martagrey1902 6 ай бұрын
Guillem tutta la vita...
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