Grandmasters and Engines Couldn't Solve This Puzzle. Then Came The Magician

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[@judecatanyag6804]

White: Call an ambulance *14 moves later* White: But not for me

[@sidekick8983]

Underrated the comment and the move

[@rahulpanjwani5765]

😂😂

[@chessdawg2459]

Only if white was Tal tho

[@Rishi-nv7bp]

Lmaoooo

[@isaacquadros898]

Best caption on this Channel

[@praneethb8037]

Black: Lol I'm going to get 4 queen's if you don't resign White: knights* Black: What?? White: Fasten your seatbelts

[@vidlight]

2 queens not 4

[@nathanbates9561]

@@vidlight He was talking about all of the black pawns queening rather than just the two that knighted.

[@VishnuVardhan-bd4cz]

🤣

[@_Galexo]

White: Mate in 14 Black: Wtf, now way I'll take that long! White: Who's talking about you?

[@user-qk1ui7vl1u]

This puzzle has been called (( Georgian farmer)).

[@ProwardGameplay]

Of course Tal is the one to solve the puzzle where you have to sacrifice half of your remaining pieces while already heavily down in material to win the game.

[@andromedasky4055]

i search it and yes... Tal solve it... just amazing

[@ashutoshkaushal8657]

I was gonna comment the same thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼

[@stelixhyx808]

Wheres your pfp from Proward?

[@palbi]

Tal's is such a beautiful chess mind. He lives deep in a dark forest in his head. Not much can survive there.

[@psymar]

@@andromedasky4055 well and also the title says "The Magician"; Tal was "The Magician of Riga"

[@nikosandrianopoulos4185]

Bishop : "can someone stop spawning these damn horses so I can do my job?"

[@-petrichor-7263]

Black:NOPE

[@JohnPaulBuce]

stop horsing around please

[@thegirrafe2828]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@kennethonwuachu6372]

Still laughing 😅🤣😂😆

[@verifiedgentlemanbug]

🤣🤣🤣😂😂🤣

[@GLOKD]

One of the most under-rated aspects of this channel is the perfect pronunciation of all the difficult Eastern names.

[@episodex]

Because he is from Eastern Europe? I was more surprised how he pronounced the Dutch name :).

[@GLOKD]

@@episodex Eastern Europe is not a monolithic bloc - it has many disparate languages and cultures.

[@episodex]

@@GLOKD I know. I'm from Eastern Europe :). But it's far easier for me to pronounce slavic names from other slavic countries than Dutch, German or Nordic ones. Dutch is especially tricky because G is pronounced as slavic H.

[@GLOKD]

@@episodex Good point.

[@episodex]

@@singingintherain4750 :D your names are impossible for us, Eastern Europeans haha. I work daily with Belgians, oh my it's awkward on calls sometimes when trying to mention someone...

[@vignjev8332]

Imagine how badass you are if you come as journalist to tournament end up playing it and finishing 6th

[@3vimages471]

But he is Tal.

[@andrewptob]

And then solving this puzzle

[@nephronpie8961]

@@andrewptob But then again, he is Tal.

[@fadzlyhaqimi9603]

@@3vimages471 and he's not in his prime at this time

[@subhajitsupakar5957]

@@fadzlyhaqimi9603but for the last time he was Tal

[@chroma2992]

His hair really said: “ ^ “

[@Winnersneverquit19]

Lmao😂🤣

[@revimfadli4666]

Jimmy Neutron's hair in the cartoon: 🍦 Jimmy's hair IRL:

[@BobJones-bh9qz]

__^ __ (• - •)

[@daviddiaz3771]

Rocking that bishop haircut

[@hanihani9029]

@@daviddiaz3771 LMFAO

[@jeffreyjohnson7359]

I'm proud of myself, I guessed the first move!

[@patrickinocencio2305]

Yeah me too

[@ethand.5937]

Same!

[@SC87Gold]

I guessed first 4

[@ilikeanimals5015]

@@SC87Gold bro nice

[@decafcoffee0935]

Ugh I though bc2

[@RamiroBrandan]

White: Mate in 14 Black: Wtf, now way I'll take that long! White: Who's talking about you?

[@GreyWind]

lmao

[@koolaidjerk]

Sorry to be that guy, but it isn't mate in 14 necessarily because black does not have to follow that sequence of plays. There were possible lines from black that let white get a queen that doesn't lose the game this way that could take longer than 14 moves.

[@elviejohg744]

@@koolaidjerk I'm a chess beginner, can you tell me why this is the solution to the puzzle if there are another set of moves that will make it last longer? How do they know they reached the solution?

[@koolaidjerk]

@@elviejohg744 With two good players, if white gets a queen they will win basically 100% of the time. So to prevent that black has to play the way described in the video, which results in the mate in 14 sequence. However, if black just lets white get the queen white will be massively ahead, but it could take longer than 14 moves to get the checkmate.

[@ILoveHuskies1]

​@@koolaidjerk Couldn't you just move up blacks pawns so that black also has at least one queen to work with and more overall pieces?

[@Jackamono]

I think he’s slowly becoming a chess piece

[@uzumakinaruto3628]

Or the game itself

[@sufiana925]

🤣🤣🤣

[@thomaspickles1630]

Most underrated KZbin comment of the year.

[@shanybiran468]

Bishop! Look at that hair

[@ed13sfeir]

That made me laugh for 4 minutes straight lol

[@ethan2123]

I can’t wait to show this puzzle to my friends at the bar/library

[@deepjyotipandit7840]

I see what you did there. Lol

[@og8263]

I guess you can wait

[@hytf2797]

You mean the LiBARy?

[@bait5257]

I didn't get this

[@urallnoobs8943]

@@bait5257 Watch the video where he explains the meaning of Agadmator

[@arcadiotorres4964]

Engines- Nobody will solve this Tal- So I took that personally

[@rdanimetalks7964]

Underrated Comment!!

[@sudiptadey8070]

He was a once in a while talent..crafted by the GOD of chess himself..no one will ever come close to him

[@noticeboard249]

Tal- I am Nobody.

[@fsrodeo81]

Agadmator:" I give you few seconds to solve this"

[@Star17Platinum17]

I am a nobody

[@philipwilson46]

There was a Queen Sac involved - Of course Tal would find the solution!

[@nelmarroda8074]

Lmao

[@athilesh]

@@nelmarroda8074 VERY TRUE

[@DJHastingsFeverPitch]

ROFL

[@magnafire1]

I know it's a joke but he did find the solution after walking away talking to himself. Lol. TAL: I know you want the queen sac self, but no matter how bad you want to get rid of her, the mate is going to have to be with the bishop if you want to crack it.

[@magnafire1]

Then he comes to his senses and comes back with a disturbed grin on his face and says, I'm going to let her live. I found the solution.

[@PushyPawn]

I think more credit for this puzzle goes to the composer. Ok, solving this is hard but who can come up with such a thing?

[@deeptangakalita3328]

Do you wanna live forever?

[@danieldenizman7790]

yeah, amazing creativity

[@cerievans4099]

My guess in the the composer started with the end position and worked backwards to arrive at the starting position. It still doesn't detract from his ingenuity.

[@strivin4]

Epic Mann.

[@Pascal-md9os]

Gijs van Breukeln can

[@caspera3193]

Just imagine what an upset this puzzle would cause if this position would be reached in an actual game.

[@dallaswood4117]

i was wondering that, it's one thing to throw the pieces out there and call it a puzzle, but what in an actual game would or could lead to this scenario

[@vikraal6974]

Remember Tal took time to solve it

[@aleks-lj9yq]

@@vikraal6974 he solved it very fast

[@vikraal6974]

@@aleks-lj9yq no check the video, he didn't solve it instantly

[@kurtzipagan6704]

@@vikraal6974 yeah,10min in the room,then left and go for a walk for 15min,so it's total 25min think

[@satrickptar6265]

"How many knights do you want? Black: Yes

[@99sasanka]

😂😂😂

[@CristianML40]

😂

[@boomjonggol5757]

Tal, dammit, solving this without a board.

[@Scientist93]

It is uncanny... such amounts of brain power all but baffle me. It'd take me a really long time to get my visualisation to a similar level, making me question if it'd be worth it to begin with.

[@alexandresilva3427]

@@Scientist93 Depends if you want to play chess professionally or not.

[@plumpistrumpi]

@@alexandresilva3427 It is not a matter of will, it is a matter of natural disposition. You can train visualization a little bit, but there is no training that can compensate a lack of natural disposition when it comes to complex blindfold calculation. You were born with it.

[@Unrevealingexistence]

@@plumpistrumpi this is the dumbest thing ever. 'Natural Disposition"

[@snmss5919]

@@human7491 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYiTqHmJZbqfmbs

[@Bcutter]

I haven’t played chess other than a few games with my dad when I was a kid. Yet I must have watched at least a hundred of your videos. You are an excellent commentator and you really manage to make the game interesting even to someone who don’t know the game other than the rules. I just took the step to start playing chess. It’s 5% thanks to Magnus Carlsen and how fascinated I am of his skill, but it’s 95% thanks to you and your awesome videos. Keep it up!

[@agadmator]

Thanks man. Appreciate it

[@busterlee8438]

I can second that story. My dad taught me to play as a kid but I never heard of a chess club or knew "openings" and endgames. Years later I wanted to teach my son to play and looked to youtube for a refresher lesson. I found the St. Louis chess Club channel and this was in the recommendations. Ive been binge watching for over a year now. The AI chess is really great. Whats happening with Leela chess 0 and the google brain? I also really enjoy the history series. Gotta watch them all again. Thank You.

[@nicholaschileshe4987]

@@busterlee8438 Leela is currently playing TCEC season 17 and she is currently doing fine. Won a number of games with 0 loses and that's excellent performance.

[@theazrael4423]

Welcome brother, that's the beauty of the game, all you need to know to enjoy these videos are the rules and yes he is one of the best commentators, I am sure there are many great commentators out there but I watch mostly 3, Agadmator, Mato Jelic, and Kevin from the chess website. I was taught when I was 12 yrs old by a Jamaican candidate master David Nichols in 1980. He gave me J.R. Capablanca's book, The fundamentals of chess. I'm not much good at the game but like you, I love the videos.

[@syddenna6437]

Couldn't have said it better myself!😅

[@Goshaughnessy]

That puzzle was a work of art. Solved by another artist. I love that Tal solved it after going for a walk No engines, just inspiration

[@scarbo2229]

Yeah, good to see a win for The Human. We need one.

[@sesh8606]

He solved this incredibly complex puzzle when not even looking at the board? i swear these top GMs are superhuman

[@ppmpyae1152]

He had alphazero in the sky.

[@VylinJanKranBlanMichal]

Tal was looking at the ceiling

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

I just ran it through stockfish 14 and it looks like black can actually refute this with Ba5

[@SarveshParakh]

@@patstaysuckafreeboss8006 at what point? There is no time to play that move.

[@jackkenefick2696]

cloud formations

[@ijirving]

Chess engines and grandmasters can't solve it eh, let me just pause the video so i can....why do I even try...

[@jakadajakada6939]

Ikr. Ain't no way I'm gonna try

[@AA-tt7fl]

I did the same 😂😂😂😂😂

[@snmss5919]

@@AA-tt7fl kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYiTqHmJZbqfmbs

[@kat78681]

Exactly! Pressed 'pause', thought 'Am I arrogant enough?', pressed 'play' immediately.

[@seligfykspert9387]

There is a crucial difference between "analyzing a random position for evaluation purposes" and "solving a white-winning puzzle". That applies to humans and machines. I think that would one insert this position into a machine as a puzzle, it would probably get the solution quickly.

[@OMC_Escher]

8:37 ah yes the classical four knights open- I mean end game

[@phil10p_]

😂

[@showanimamian5248]

I read this puzzle in 1991 in a chess magazine, I also read that Tal shouted "this is unbelievable!" when he saw the solution.

[@sattkrit_pathak]

he did't saw the solution he solved it

[@chinmaykabi]

Who other than Tal to solve such a puzzle. Poetic justice

[@oskain]

bro think he kendrick lamar 💀

[@user-zk8gl4iw2v]

@chinmaykabi Gijs Van Breukelen entered the chat.

[@usamazaheer9194]

*Reads the title "Grandmasters and Engines couldn't solve this puzzle"* *Me an intellectual and a weeb who only played 5 games of chess* : _"Alright I will give it a try"_

[@OKANGUVEN99]

Usama Zaheer well... did you succed?

[@TheRaumin]

@@OKANGUVEN99 It has only been a month, so he still has time ;)

[@essem4979]

I've watched Code Geass, so I should be able to solve this puzzle in 9 minutes

[@glitch4010]

@@essem4979 solved it in 10 seconds, ez, saw immediately that the king was the key to the puzzle. 👑

[@Delacroix0402]

@@glitch4010 this fits so perfectly to the comment above hahaha. Ur pfp is fucking Lelouch

[@sanidhyapratapsingh4952]

I feel dumb after I think that Tal saw all this in his mind.

[@renceilaya3562]

Agadmator: "it's white to play and to win" Me: "Wait.. is the white going upwards or downwards???" 😅

[@iljadendiesich816]

Tip: watch were a1 is. A1 buttom left= white moving up, a1 upper right=white moving down

[@renceilaya3562]

@@iljadendiesich816 thanks! I'm just starting in chess, I'll keep that in mind 😊

[@yewtubez]

lol took me a minute to realise the A1 squares

[@angelgodplace]

You always see the board going up.

[@leadnitrate2194]

@@ronanthony5654 thankfully, we're not training to become world champions so we can enjoy this beautiful puzzle

[@naina62]

*grandmasters and engines couldn't solve this puzzle *tal : hold my bishop

[@slavdef]

The tragedy of a puzzle like this is that anyone good enough to solve it would never find themselves in such a position.

[@whitneyrideout4553]

Yes its cruel cruel world 😢

[@user-zb8tq5pr4x]

That's not the point of puzzles anyway

[@thelostusername5013]

Excuse my ignorance I'm not very good at chess but at 7:46. Could you not move the pawn to g4 and end the game sooner

[@Soul-ex8gb]

@@thelostusername5013 You'd make the king move to H4 as the pawn is no longer covering it

[@thelostusername5013]

@@Soul-ex8gb good point

[@michaelkaczmarski2938]

I've been solving chess puzzles since 1969. This is the most amazing, intricate puzzle that I've ever seen. Thank you for showing this rare gem, Agad!

[@pickledirick8338]

Surely over the span of 50 years you’ve come across this puzzle before? I have multiple times just by searching for difficult chess puzzles online.

[@silentoccasion4359]

Pickled IRick he probably did. I think he had everyone else in mind when he said what he said

[@priyanshgautam9971]

I've been seeing Chess puzzles for about 6 months and already seen this puzzle several times

[@priyanshgautam9971]

@Luis Delgado Lol 🤦u are soo

[@annaapple3249]

@@priyanshgautam9971 You’re a dark brown Indian. Why are you using a blonde emoji?

[@phoenixshade3]

This is a great puzzle. It looks like the engines fall victim to overzealous tree pruning.

[@numbdigger9552]

wonder what alphazero would think of this...

[@severnkariuki9129]

Engines probably overrate material for better chances in most games.

[@phoenixshade3]

@@severnkariuki9129 That they do, especially when there are no immediate tactics... but in this case, nearly every underpromotion involves or creates a tactical situation. That's why I'd tend to favor a tree-pruning explanation over a material one, in this case.

[@severnkariuki9129]

@@phoenixshade3 yes, they prune the tree but due to material. I think they ignore any continuation after knight and queen sac with checks(forcing move) and assume that variation leads nowhere. Little do they know the king, bishop and pawn is all that is necessary here. I believe they do not see how black is helpless with dim knights on almost the worst squares possible like Tal probably did. Alphazero might have seen this.

[@krishnak.r3927]

I used the Stockfish engine on lichess and while watching the video and it was at 6:58 that when I played Bc2+ the level went up to +4.8 for white. This was the winning move that the engine could not spot that Tal could. Before I played this move, the level was at -5.2. Very interesting observation. Also, at 7:12, instead of playing Nf7+, the engine recommends to play Kg4 instead as it avoids the unstoppable mate in 11. I let the engine play itself and the game subsequently ends with white winning after exactly 30 moves after Kg4.

[@pulguinha682]

Only engine I could solve this with was Stockfish 14, but that's just overkill

[@arnavagrawal895]

Dude the engines have analysed this puzzle as it has been years .

[@mrsommer84]

Best comment

[@kupono94]

Tal takes a walk, figures that the bishop needs also needs to take a walk xp

[@Baitoss]

2:01 How is nobody talking about the guy just standing on the table?

[@stickmedia5691]

Bruhhhh. I didn't even notice

[@75w26__]

That's actually a ghost

[@Cnut_the_grape]

He just vibin'

[@Lgg130]

Clearly the puzzle creator

[@spiraldj]

Probably a camera man getting an ariel view of the game

[@jasonisrael8849]

I love that Agadmator couldn’t keep a straight face when announcing the fourth knight. Great puzzle & video

[@qolumbia3536]

Grandmasters and Engines couldn't solve this puzzle Me: *Immediately starts to try and solve it*

[@woodfinchcrafts7267]

You:looks at solution after several years

[@CristianML40]

😂

[@JohnnyWillerGasperiGoncalves]

It's crazy, I'm using Lichess Stockfish 11+ WASMX, depth 58 and still, the engine can't spot the move!

[@duffin3503]

How does this work? Doesn’t depth 58 mean that it has mapped out every possible move for the next 58 possible turns? How can it not spot the move?

[@JohnnyWillerGasperiGoncalves]

@@duffin3503 no, no. Engines rely heavy in euristics to cut out most of the useless moves. But in some cases it endup cutting lines that shouldn't, because engine thinks it's a bad line and doesn't worth analysing it.

[@OKMX5]

@@duffin3503 due to exponential complexity it's completely impossible to calculate every possible move into such depth. If engines were calculating every possible line they could think only few moves ahead.

[@DanielHatchman]

That's crazy that a computee can't see it.

[@turkiyett0928]

Engine can solve this puzzle in 2 seconds (multi threat)

[@lordstinson8095]

I wanna know what Tal was smoking.

[@EGarrett01]

Patzers.

[@kievmoores3093]

Everett01 lmao

[@HexxuSz]

You can not handle it

[@oumarkk3572]

I was thinking the same thing😂

[@niiadam4426]

😂😂

[@MrSmith-on1qz]

I’ve played about 30k games. I could have never solved this puzzle. It’s just a game, but It reminds me of what my teacher’s use to tell me after I stated “when would I use trigonometry in day to day life” and their response “it helps expand your mind”.

[@betaneptune]

Till now I thought the only reason not to pick a queen when "queening" was to avoid a stalemate. Not so! What an incredible puzzle. Just increasing awe the whole way through. Well done! Thank you, agadmator! Wow.

[@jeesusmeesuss5247]

Found the first two moves, however I never would have been able to solve it.

[@happyhourstogether6060]

Timmy Fay i found first 3 moves

[@ActComplicated]

Timmy Fay Yeah I found the solution the the first couple of lines shown. It’s the last line that is the point of the puzzle I believe.

[@happyhourstogether6060]

Act Complicated yeah dam that gansta bishop slicing everywhere

[@dayanandsahu6683]

I completed this puzzle on my CT-ART 6 on first try... I am 1600.... Am I the Magician? Of course NOT

[@dakotatiger2009]

@@dayanandsahu6683 Nah just a really bad liar.

[@antyteista]

These are insane puzzle. One genius created them, another genius solved them. I'm not surprised it was Tal. Only he could see this tactical insanity in his head. Nobody else.

[@gabe2349]

Interestingly, after the d8 promotion, the engine recommends king g4. It does now say that white is much better, but I think it prevents the checkmate combination.

[@danielhoang289]

Right, what makes this puzzle great is that forking the King+Queen isn't the best move. However, since it is the human instinct move to play, it's still remarkable to see how it is beaten

[@mikelynch-zeroviewz2507]

Knights of the Square Table would be a good name for this puzzle..

[@axemtitanium]

Sadly that would be a hint for solving it.

[@aquapony]

@@axemtitanium Yeah, after I read this comment I solved it in 5 minutes

[@itwasinthispositionerinoag7414]

0:00 Hello everyone 3:50 agadmator.exe has stopped working 9:46 Friends at the bar and the library

[@adnan4688]

So this is becoming a thing...

[@guscox9651]

instructions unclear, broke into the bar and library but no one there said "hello everyone" because they were in isolation.

[@apaajaboleh104]

The bar and the library are closed.

[@weimergabriel]

this is too good.

[@kahwigulum]

@@apaajaboleh104 Sorry about that.

[@oWallis]

Black: I have 4 knights! White: We have a Hulk (Bishop)

[@Refinitey]

It's actually black that has 4 knights

[@timsvideosallsfw2570]

Not a Hulk ... use The Blues Brothers line ... we're on a mission, a mission from God.

[@zedknows8391]

This proves once again that Tal is the greatest player of all time.

[@thearchangel9835]

One of the most incredibly beautiful things I have ever witnessed!!! Genial!

[@pain6797]

GMs and Engines: *my pfp* Tal: so anyway, I started solving

[@anandasatria7734]

Wtf lol

[@doggojo7148]

MY PAIN IS STILL FAR GREATER THAN YOUUURRRRRSSSS

[@1988ryan1]

Engines: move 4: black obviously goes king g4, not even suggesting knight f7 because it's literally the worst move on the board... Tal and GMs: so anyway, lets ignore that and pretend forking the queen/king is better so we get a checkmate in 13...

[@mengekyosyaringanKamui]

🤣😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Puschit1]

It's now decided: Tal is officially my favourite chess player now!

[@Meddimehell]

Tal is EVERYONES favourite mate :) Together with Fischer, Carlsen and Anand, for my part though. Those four have just meant a lot for me in my time as a chess-enthusiast.

[@Puschit1]

@@Meddimehell My follow-ups would be Morphy, Capablanca and Petrosian, though.

[@nausadulabedinrifat7498]

Carlsen was my favourite.But after watching tal I realised the beauty of chess.No wonder why he was called the magician.

[@JohnSmith-wl2pd]

@@nausadulabedinrifat7498 same here. Mine was Kasparov, but after watching Tal, I couldn't see chess in the same way anymore. As you correctly said I realized the beauty of it. It's not about how strong a player is. It's about the magic. And there is only one magician. The one from Riga...

[@thunderball11111]

Ivanchuk, tal, Barnes and Anderson are mine so far. I just love the crazier plays and the positional attacks.

[@wixom01]

I've been playing chess for more than 50 years. This is the most incredible puzzle I've ever seen!

[@mdzaidshaikh1863]

what's your age

[@wixom01]

@@mdzaidshaikh1863 63. /sigh

[@Tuh_qh90]

​@@wixom01 you lived when the legends(actual) were alive

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

I’ll never understand how a human can come up with puzzles like this lol absolutely insane

[@marcjohn9404]

Chess world: This puzzle is impossible! Nobody can figure this out!! Black is winning! Stockfish: *Agrees* *Mikhail Tal has entered the chat*

[@vignanmullapudi2950]

Engines and GMs left.

[@-zelda-]

Chess world: This puzzle is impossible! Nobody can figure this out!! Black is winning! Stockfish 14: *Disagrees*

[@joncleek5406]

5:16 "and for those of you who came back after you solved it, congrats" Did I mention lichess and chesscom can't solve it? Good luck!

[@tylerghloe4803]

solved!!!! :)

[@ajinkyakulkarni8109]

Solved

[@mikeemad3399]

I enjoy your videos, great for chess lovers. keep up the great work.

[@stantonmccain7725]

love coming back to this video everytime it comes on my feed because I always forget the solution and I get just as mesmerized by it again! Also bring back that hair Antonio! I miss the hawk haha

[@Benny_Blue]

This is probably one of the best chess analyses/explanations I've ever watched. Well done!

[@ChessMasteryOfficial]

If your opponent offers you a draw, try to work out why he thinks he’s worse off.

[@anonym3967]

I used to offer draws when up a pawn in the opening against higher rated players on lichess, because I did not want to risk my free rating with possible blunders in the future.. and still this is my main reason to offer draws, if a position seems complicated I don't want to risk blundering it, offering a draw despite knowing that you are losing seems kinda rude tbh.

[@nirrrvana88]

I was once offered a draw in a 3 days/move correspondence game. He was arguing that he has no time left to play the game as he has been sentenced to prison. I thought it funny,but in the end accepted the draw offer. I looked up better afterwards. Turns out he was losing a piece lmao.

[@kallemaki-hokkonen4850]

@@nirrrvana88 Why didnt he just engine the moves and win ez

[@patstaysuckafreeboss8006]

@@nirrrvana88 Prison? Yup, that guys probably better than you now. That's all they have in prison is chess lol

[@TSgitaar]

So if you want your opponent to accept your draw offer, make sure that you are slightly better. I find it lame to offer a draw when I am considerably worse.

[@lilacdoe7945]

An engine cannot solve it... AlphaGo "challenge accepted"

[@robinsuj]

I don't think AlphaZero classifies as an engine

[@jacknugent4324]

did u say alpha go

[@BlueEyes-WhiteDrag0n]

AlphaGo?

[@jayanth1590]

5:18 just saving to come back for solution

[@rahulchoudhury4956]

Oh Tal !!! There is Kasparov,karpov,booby, anand,magnus,..... But Mikhail Tal his attacking style.. his sacking pieces, oh is brilliant mind . There will never be another Tal

[@vinayyadav1757]

Booby 😂 good one

[@shweta8269]

😂😂😂😂

[@zebrapaint640]

Yes bro tal is the only King

[@scottrackley4457]

If you like Tal, and who doesn't, check out Ljubojević's games. He comes up with some devilish attacks.

[@johnnyspousta3136]

The first time I've seen this puzzle was during a lecture by Czech grandmaster Vlastimil Hort. He accompanied it with a great story. He was in Riga in Tal's house and both of the gentlemen were waking up. They shared some drinks and Tal's wife brought them some sandwiches. It was a happy occasion since Tal's daughter (I believe) was allowed to a musical conservatory. And since it was time to celebrate, what better way to start your day there is than to show this masterpiece of a puzzle. And thanks to you, Antonio, it finally makes sense why it was Tal who was showing it. Chess flexing at its best :D

[@samgrattan5465]

I guess this would be “four knights ending” lol

[@004chestnut8]

Solving this for Tal must've felt like going back to your seat after answering a math question in the board in your class

[@KnowThyself619]

Thank you so much Agadmator!! After studying all the games from the world chess championship 1972 on your channel, i have defeated both my dad and my older brother which was not possible before. Although defeating them doesn't get me any certificate or title, it's still a big achievement for me and I'm proud of it.

[@mutigaben2038]

Good Job

[@KnowThyself619]

@@mutigaben2038 thank you!! It took me long but i finally did it haha.

[@peanutandbutterdachshund6916]

Well carlsen's initial goal was to defeat his sister, but ok

[@OzymandiasSaysHi]

You SHOULD be proud! Well done!

[@tomarts774]

That feeling when you spend 5 minutes of the video trying to solve the puzzle and then you realise that you were looking at the board as if it was flipped ... I thought it was strange for the puzzle to start as white king is checked by the pawn. I may not be the best chess player material afterall Lol

[@gerardopadua]

Correct king checked by a pawn

[@artfuldodger5698]

I thought so but then i looked at the alphabets on the bottom and those numbers on the left and figured out.

[@DoctorX149]

white to play and win.. bruh lol

[@tomarts774]

@@DoctorX149 well yes ... he says that after 5 minutes of explaining the history behind the puzzle. Also as others have mentioned the board has numbers on it, which clearly indicate that I'm not the brightest.

[@adriensebbane]

I love this puzzle ! Thank you for sharing.

[@sdweston8]

Thanks for sharing this puzzle - it is magnificent! I did play this puzzle as White against Stockfish level 30 though, and Stockfish did not capture the Queen and instead played King G4.

[@bezzlebedeviled4756]

6:47 -- The reason engines (at least those that are set to not examine more than five lines simultaneously) cannot solve the puzzle is because they will not consider the Bc2+ line after Kg6, because it results in White being down two pieces (after Kxh5), and subject to forfeiting any new queen. However, if Bc2+ is manually played, then the engine finds the solution at Depth25. It used to be possible to adjust the settings on Chess(dot)com to have the engine examine ten lines simultaneously, but this was reduced to five maximum some half a year ago, with three being current default. (Low-grade cheaters using default-setting online engines will almost never be given the best moves in "hard" positions in any reasonable amount of time, say, as for Blitz.)

[@bezzlebedeviled4756]

Furthermore, following d8=Q, after the engine finally discards Nf7+ (because it finds that this plus capturing the forked queen next turn results in White's king bottling up Black's with checkmate to follow), the engine will calculate endlessly without finding a forced mate for White even though it grants a rating of +8 fairly quickly. With Black refraining from the knight fork, he plays Kg4 instead, and will inevitably seize White's last pawn on g3, after which the material situation is White's queen versus Black's two knights and four pawns in an opposite-colored bishop game -- and Black is capable of lingering on for quite some time after that. With humans playing, it would be quite easy for White to blunder and lose tempo, enabling Black to queen a pawn and win.

[@sin2Pi]

I found that although initial evaluation by Stockfish (both versions 8, 11 installed on my laptop with 10 threads) went for Black, both versions checkmated black when played against each other (v11 against itself, v8 W vs v11 B). I haven't investigated the details yet, but thought that Agadmator should have proceeded w/ solving the puzzle w/ Stockfish regardless of initial eval. Chess evaluation can be a bit chaotic for some positions, I think this is just one of these instances.

[@bezzlebedeviled4756]

@@sin2Pi ...they'll only find checkmate if your engine has enough lines such that Bc2 can make the "cut" for consideration, or if you manually fork king and queen with the knight. The position is strongly winning for White with correct play after Black eschew knight-forking, but it is very difficult for White to run a queen against two knights and four extra pawns with bishops still the board; i.e., Black has a lot of "action economy". It's basically a Magnus-style grind to defeat Black, with the first misstep costing you your advantage, and a second enabling Black to queen and easily win with his material advantage -- as he'll quickly have a second queen.)

[@iliillillilli2991]

I tried it in leela and stpckfish they failed but i thought because the engine prunes these moves what if i use an engine that prunes less, or annolder engine so i got rybka which is pretty old and it actually found the move being +3.66 for white at depth 25, but found the move instantly. Im guessing it has something to do with rybka not pruning the moves as early so it found it.

[@duchi882]

It would be interesting to see if AlphaZero can solve this. That Bishop just went all over the Board trying to preach word of God and the Four Knights be like: BEGONE! 😅

[@arturolopez9289]

Man of God vs Four Horseman might be called the solution 🤣

[@soumyadeepdas3239]

Leela chess zero on my machine solved it after taking some time.

[@ghotrix]

@@soumyadeepdas3239 it solved it for me almost instantly

[@ghotrix]

@Abhishek Shukla It's big misconception that Leela learns from every game you play with her, it's physically not possible. It learns only from games she plays with herself on contributors machines. More on that here: github.com/LeelaChessZero/lc0/wiki/Getting-Started

[@SuperAWaC]

lc0 also solved this instantly on my pc. i think having difficulty solving this is just a quirk of the way a/b engines search. but it is proof that a/b engines are not all powerful, they are faking it through brute force.

[@hughparsonage4446]

I think there's a flaw in the forced checkmate: black is not obliged to make a royal fork on f7. So the position is better for white, but not forced mate.

[@thatapollo7773]

Well if no royal fork is made white is easily winning When doing puzzles you only need to show the most testing line which would be to do the royal fork and white needs to find M10

[@grantross2609]

one can only wonder and gasp at tal's brainflow during that outdoor stroll...... just incredible !

[@Royale9]

2:14 I replayed that at least 10 times.

[@scottpowell4342]

Did you notice that one of Kasparov's wins is missing?

[@ujwalbharti3386]

Same here

[@priyanshuranjan5225]

why you didn't just paused it ?

[@ujwalbharti3386]

@@priyanshuranjan5225 he's trying to understand the game bro I know he could have paused but it's his choice 😂

[@priyanshuranjan5225]

@@ujwalbharti3386 true lol

[@mandyrarsh7137]

To those of you who came back in a month or two after solving this... I don't believe you❤

[@guscox9651]

i literally cant decide whether or not to stay and watch the solution or not

[@organizationxiii2956]

I found the first few moves on my own and later the engine found the mating sequence.

[@snmss5919]

@@organizationxiii2956 kzbin.info/www/bejne/eYiTqHmJZbqfmbs

[@meepogeomancer7552]

I did solve this

[@shezacuber6092]

@@meepogeomancer7552 mee too but it took like 15 mins to find a way to force black's king into the position then it was easier to mate him.Maybe i way just lucky and spot it quickly

[@daniellevy2272]

This is such a beautiful puzzle. Best chess moves I've seen

[@HerveMutombo]

You're so authentic man. The fact that you do not post-edit makes your video look made for human beings.

[@jiwsz]

Man, that was a satisfying puzzle!

[@op63300]

this is the most outstanding puzzle i ever saw... Thanks Adgamator, for explaining !

[@Mister_Eiffel]

I didn't really try to solve the puzzle, but I kinda knew it would require something unorthodox like promoting to a knight. However I did not expect it to happen *twice*

[@laytonjr6601]

It doesn't involve promoting to a knight to attack, it's the only defense and the puzzle is easier if you don't do so

[@mgpvii]

@@laytonjr6601 yeah, this guys remark, “ I kinda knew”, is him thinking that he is kinda smart, when in reality, he is clueless.

[@fyodorurnov6028]

This was such visceral fun. Thank you very much for posting this.

[@moonboy5851]

Tal just went up another level in my books. What a genius.

[@ModySameeir]

Incredible puzzle indeed, the solution is very complex yet very interesting, thank you so much for sharing..

[@ShahzamanShawon]

The explanation is very very helpful & easy to understand. Thank you

[@tiktoktim]

Sick tactics. You gotta have a hell of a mind to solve this

[@r3e511]

I feel guilty for not even trying to solve the puzzle

[@johnwamsley1896]

4 chimps could learn to sing the Star Spangled Banner in 4 part harmony before I could find the solution

[@memegazer]

I did not try properly but I don't feel guilty because the show was so enjoyable.

[@MrVvulf]

"I am philosophical about my dumbness" - to paraphrase Patrice O'Neal. I just accept that I enjoy marveling at chess masters and that I'll never come close to being one. I'm fine with this. For me it's no different than watching NBA highlights - purely to enjoy what some humans can do. Sure, I can hit a layup or even a 3 pointer, but no matter how hard I practice, I'll never dunk from the free throw line.

[@shayanpoordian5986]

I felt guilty for trying it as if i can solve it in 2 mins

[@mgm.al3mry]

@@MrVvulf Mr. P 😭❤️

[@paulcoe7511]

It's at times like these I wonder ... "What would alpha zero do?"

[@tonym2513]

Paul Coe Leela would check mate in 3, hack a Jimmy Johns web page, and then stare at you smugly from behind the now delivered sandwich that she can’t even eat.

[@sarainiaangelsong440]

Thing with " Alpha Zero " is it's neither a Human, nor an Engine, it instead is a Neural Net, meaning there is chances in it's hidden layers that it recognizes complex patterns! It already crushes all Humans and Engines, so I would say without a doubt it likely would solve it! Simply due to most of it's moves to begin with no engine or human has been able to compete with it's final form and win! The better question would be if one day " Leela Chess Zero " a new neural network they are working on would be able to solve this, cuz Alpha Zero likely just would due to mass pattern recognitions and a Mate in 14 for a Neural net that has that to back it up is strongly likely to spot and realize the winning sequence of moves, hidden layers are simply biases/weights it shifts around, I'm certain it has experimented in all it's self plays turning a pawn into other pieces that are not just Queens and also prolly has tinkered with the idea to force an opponent to grab a Knight over a Queen, so I'm sure those games do exist, and besides the way it thinks would be closer to how humans would solve rather than brute force that engines do all the time, thus why engines are only able to get to a certain level of strength before they plateau, whereas a neural network with the correct amount of nodes to keep learning will develop super god human and super god engine tactics! :)

[@iliillillilli2991]

Funny thing is the old engine rybka immdeitally found it somehow, i guess it has something to do with less move pruning because stockfish ignores moves it thinks are bad to search faster. I even tried leela and they all failed but somehow the old engine rybka solved it

[@sarainiaangelsong440]

@@iliillillilli2991 Yeah interesting... maybe then what engines should do is split itself to run 2 runs of itself, hear me out on this so at exact same time can prune as one process and another makes on the spot clone of itself but doesn't prune so that way 2 processes at same time and then that might be just the trick huh? So in the case of old rybka and new not sure if new prunes but if it does, then same thing but no prune and run them side by side as 2 separate thingies so in Arena for example it would look like 2 engines analyzing at same time type of effect, I'm bad at explaining my thoughts at times but that my guess :)

[@EBiz-tv9jq]

I am not a big chess player, I have spurts of playing a bit for like a month every 2 years, but once I watched some 20+ videos about Tal, I somewhat absorbed some ideas and the very next few games felt incredibly simple. I disconnected from the machine-like thinking of every possible move, but looked at the board "from the top" sort to say. I had amazing victory with sacrificing queen mid-game, and suddenly instead of trying to kill material felt that allowing the opponent to rush into my lines and then pinning his underdeveloped positions were much better solution. In short - watching a lot of well presented material about something you know can bring you to next level or improve you, even if you don't immediately practice it. (p.s. I have had same "breakthrough" in martial arts. I love mma, and have been training it for all life, but it took accidental interest in old-school mma and I found I absorbed a lot of much more convenient and effective approach. It is like watching McGregor all life, adapting to his style, training accordingly, but then you bump into 2 hour documentary about Fedor Emaialenko, and it makes you reevaluate your whole mma sports approach. )

[@srinivassurya84]

That is an insane puzzle. Thanks for finding this for us!

[@OCCNP]

I showed this puzzle to my friends in the library, the library management called the police for being a magician. Now I’m trying to get rid of the handcufs with this magic

[@aspuzling]

Should have promoted to knight and you could jump the jail walls.

[@David-lb6uf]

This is the puzzle that made me Fall in love with chess, back then about a year ago, when I saw this on Suren's channel😁

[@amoldivo]

Agad's hair after solving the puzzle: I'm mesmerized by the puzzle myself 😐🙉🙈🤣

[@BirdDawg1]

So impressed by this channel! The dialog is perfect.

[@thealgeriantank2587]

Well. This puzzle should've been called "The Stable Puzzle" if you know what I mean!

[@threethrushes]

NaaaAAaaay.

[@divy1962]

"The crusade"

[@KennedyMister95]

8:38 even Antonio cracked up at this 😂😂 this is beautiful

[@keidanmeradi8085]

Amazing! I enjoy your videos, keep it up

[@-zelda-]

7:14 Black shouldn't go for the queen if it wants to keep playing as much as possible. The best move here for black is Kg4. There are fixed versions of the puzzle that force black to move to f7 like placing the knight in h8 or e5. In the original puzzle its mate in 34 moves, in the fixed versions is 15 moves.

[@copacetic6440]

Well as a student of Mikhail Tal I can tell you he didn't just go for a walk he had a smoke too and then he came back with the answer. I can imagine the smile on his face when he saw both knights on opposite sides of the board in his head. A real tactical magician rest in peace Tal.

[@lmair2456]

After seeing this I looked up some of van Breukelen's puzzles - terrific.

[@bcask61]

My friends at the library are going to love this. Thanks Antonio!

[@lucien4980]

Nice this was pretty in depth. Truly a master to crack this in his mind on a walk.