Testosterone and Prostate Cancer: Is There a Link?

[@georgetoul]

Dr AM is the best in regards to TRT and urology

[@arnoldkeen6393]

I have run into the Doctors that only have the Huggins knowledge they learned in med school. They have NOT kept up with the latest studies and reports. I try to argue with them but get looks that say I am nuts and then they repeat the old message that Testosterone is going to give me prostrate cancer. Very frustrating. It's somewhat hard to find the doctors that actually keep up with the studies. But I try. Most of the time they don't even know about the latest blood tests and the 3T MRI.

[@Invictus888]

Same here. I am fortunate to have medical friends in Japan and Vietnam. Over there Testosterone is considered to be a protective hormone. They also consider North American standards for testosterone way too low, particularly in men over 55. The Japanese have proven that Estrogen and Estradiol are the culprits for Prostate cancer. Like you, I became frustrated with the doctors here. I now get my Testosterone looked after in Vietnam....with the addd benifit of the wonderful beaches and weather in Vietnam. I very much hope you will be well.

[@niltomega2978]

Same experience. ...sad

[@RH-xd3nx]

Here's my story, me and my 2 bud's are gym rats in our mud 50s..my 2 friends have an unusually high t count 800 ,I myself have a low t under 200..we all have prostate issues, kinda hard to pee in the mornings. We all have high psa's they are over 5 me 4.2 at the time. They went to get biopsies which were negative. Me my biopsy came back positive..low t my ass didn't protect me. So I believe once you get PC test is no good..but it is good preventive

[@todstrucks2919]

Thanks for the information. I would like to see a updated version of this to see if there’s any changes?

[@RomuloJogaib]

Thanks for share. I would like to ask doctor Morgentaler what about benign prostate hyperplasia, can we get these people on TRT?

[@daveyeddie8176]

Really enjoyed that presentation, imo ADT leaves you in a worse state, testosterone has many many advantages that for me outweigh the negatives, I have some really big decisions to make about prostate cancer, and this presentation has really helped me. Thank you so much.

[@АлексейЛесуков-ч3ь]

If testosterone is the blame for prostate cancer then why aren't teenagers suffering of prostate cancer? They have super high levels of testosterone while men over 50 years old have the lowest levels of testosterone and the ones suffering of prostate cancer, where is the logic or scientific explanation?? The androgen deprivation doesn't make any sense 🤔🤔

[@daveyeddie8176]

@@АлексейЛесуков-ч3ь I have been through my treatment "SABR" and I am awaiting my results next month, well, another PSA blood test then i wait to see those results, I decided against hormone for many reasons, my brother went through hormone treatment and has had many problems, in fairness it did bring his PSA down from 36 to 11 before his 20 sessions of radiotherapy, and his PSA has literally flat lined after treatment. In fairness Testosterone does not cause prostate cancer but they say if you contract cancer of the prostate the testosterone feeds the cancer? Thing is my partner has had breast cancer and she has no testosterone but they gave her tablets to block her estrogen, that causes a lot of problems also. She is clear after two years🙏 I am not telling anyone not to take hormone's at all, for me it was the option I chose, and can I say everyone being diagnosed with any type of cancer, I hope and pray you's comes through🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@markusrose9667]

Completely perplexing. It’s awesome to learn that TRT does not cause PC, but why does ADT seem to slow the progression of advanced prostate cancer?

[@Hasan-jf7by]

This is what I wonder too.

[@marklowe5939]

I have a feeling the culprit is estradiol.

[@indiglo1971]

Many people on TRT are reporting enlarged prostates.

[@dominictucci6030]

​@marklowe5939 Yes, when you knock out all of a man's testosterone, you are also knocking out a man's estrogen - which is the real hormone that causes PC . You can't selectively knock out estrogen in men without having all their testosterone levels ( because testosterone is the main hormone in men!). It makes sense. As men age their testosterone levels naturally decline whilst their estrogen levels, prolactin levels increase. So it stands to reason that lower testosterone and higher estrogen levels cause prostate cancer in men( along with genetics, DNA damage, lifestyle factors). Young men with naturally higher levels of testosterone and low estrogen levels never get prostate cancer!

[@glenbearh9109]

So because of a clinical trial I have to suffer? Why can I not decide? I'd rather risk it and live with a QO life then to suffer low T which for me is very very low bout 25 or less.

[@Liveluxwithkaushik]

In my opinion, and please do let me know what you feel. Testosterone will help build muscles , more muscles would mean lower sugar levels in the blood stream hence cancer cells will get less nitrition and thus slow or regress the cancer proliferation. Please advise the same for metastatic urothelial cancer

[@RH-xd3nx]

Prostate cancer doesn't thrive on sugar...only animal fats.

[@PhilMelbourne]

Thanks for this great information

[@markusrose9667]

So can someone please explain to me why ADT seems to slow the progression in cancer?

[@CaseyKCRichards]

Testosterone the miracle hormone . As a pro bodybuilder everything you say is true.

[@tannertuner]

I don’t know 2 years later if anyone is paying attention to the comments (or if they ever were); but what are the estradiol levels in the men WITH prostate cancer? What are their blood glucose levels?

[@glenbearh9109]

I just left a question (comment) but do not think it will be looked at let alone answered. I use replacement but have prostate cancer. I do not want to stop because it effects me so poorly.

[@Invictus888]

The Japanese have proven that Estrogen and Estradiol are the culprits in Prostate Cancer.....and they also proved that Testosterone is THE protective hormone in a man.

[@marklowe5939]

@@Invictus888 that’s exactly why some docs are doing trt with low dose letrozole or arimidex. I’ve been on trt for over 25yrs. It started aromatizing to estradiol. So I take 2.5 mg of letrozole twice a week.

[@Invictus888]

@@marklowe5939 Hi Mark, That is exactly what I am doing now, 1/2 Letrozole per day. My PSA is rock solid. Canadian doctors will not prescribe Testosterone as it would be "adding fuel to the fire".So I went off-shore. Thanks for your post! Be well.

[@pinotwinelover]

If estradiol is the cause, then why would the people on low testosterone levels who probably aren't converting anything getting prostate cancer?

[@grzeniak]

So why not just shut off or shut down the enzyme in prostate cancer cells which testosterone stimulates to cause the cancer cells to replicate? Much better than depriving the body of T in general

[@karlkascha1261]

Makes sense.

[@glenbearh9109]

I have Gleason 6 but 8 of 12 cores had cancer 6 were 5% or less but 1 had 50% and 1 had 25% So I will treat most likely brachytherapy. I am however very hypogonadal and get injections of testosterone bi weekly. I went without when first diagnosed but after 4 moths I was a wreck, crying, depressed, angry, unable to make decisions and very, very timid with anxiety as well. I know it is a risk to be on TRT but I also do not want to live a living hell without it.

[@Invictus888]

I was extremely frustrated with my doctors in Canada regarding testosterone after my prostate cancer. Luckily I have medical friends in Japan and Vietnam. Problem solved.

[@rolankelly9683]

@@Invictus888 So where you able to do trt and if so how you doing now after having prostate cancer and did you have your prostate removed I’m in the same boat just looking over my options. Thanks

[@Invictus888]

@@rolankelly9683 I had radiation for Gleason 8.....5 biopsies and PSA went from 6 to 19.5...yet this idiot urologist stood there and scratched his head as he was unable to "find" any cancer. I blew up at him and got transfered to one of the best hospitals in Canada. They found the cancer right away. I did have Zoladex injections...THAT was the worst thing I could have done...4 years later the side effects are still with me. I do take Testosterone injections every 10 days....happy to report that my PSA is rock solid, and, ever so slowly my libido is improving. Here is my advise: do your own research (as I have done). Just because a guy wears a white coat that does nor mean he is up to date. AND look at research results as well as treatments from other countries. In North America doctors are following the Huggins theory which refers back to a SINGLE case in 1946. I hope this helps....be well.

[@rolankelly9683]

@@Invictus888 Thank you sir. This definitely helps with some of my questions I had and I appreciate you sharing your story with me. I will have my surgery and than a temp to do trt after I get healthy. I will definitely do my homework also..

[@Invictus888]

@@rolankelly9683 And make absolutely sure you begin penile rehabilitation no later than 6 weeks after surgery....something the doctors here "failed" to mention.

[@niltomega2978]

I've been on TRT for 16 years and get a prostate exam (the old finger method) once a year a long with blood tests which measure PSA . ALL prostates' get larger as we age. I'm 55. Mine is not beyond what it should be

[@Invictus888]

I am a Prostate Cancer survivor. Here is what they say in Asia: Estrogen and Estradiol are the culprits causing Prostate Cancer. Testosterone is a protective hormone to a man. This has been proven time and again in Japan. I was a victim of the Huggins theory for years, until I met a Japanese endocrinologist on a beach in Vietnam. I am now getting Testosterone treatment without any problems. What infuriates me is that these North American doctors still cling to the Huggins report from 1946. Huggings based his report on ONE single case.

[@niltomega2978]

@@Invictus888 Its bizarre. The data is out there but I guess the quest for profits distorts.

[@Invictus888]

@@niltomega2978 I Spoke to a Canadian Endocrinologist (I live in Canada) about that. He actually admitted that what I told him about the Asian research has come up numerous times among Canadian Endocrinologists, and that he agreed with me. BUT......since he took his training in Canada he has to adhere to what was taught to him in Canada.

[@niltomega2978]

I wonder why this Huggins study persists. weird.

[@pinotwinelover]

How about estrogen or estradiol conversion

[@АлексейЛесуков-ч3ь]

If testosterone is the blame for prostate cancer then why aren't teenagers suffering of prostate cancer? They have super high levels of testosterone while men over 50 years old have the lowest levels of testosterone and the ones suffering of prostate cancer, where is the logic or scientific explanation?? The androgen deprivation doesn't make any sense 🤔🤔

[@IlIKRATOSIlI]

Can someone dumb this down for me? Is TRT good or bad. lol

[@babybutchie]

TRT is great.

[@indiglo1971]

Increased chance of testicular atrophy, increased chance of bloodclots, increased chance of prostate enlargement.

[@dominictucci6030]

Just lift weights and hill sprints! No side effects, costs nothing and natural testosterone increase!

[@1RedEarthProductions]

@@indiglo1971 The advantages outweigh the risk. Look up the “Traverse Study” about the benefits to the cardiovascular system alone.

[@ted1792]

But prostate cancer is treated by reducing testosterone. Is that wrong?

[@donw3861]

I would lean more towards reducing estrogen, but I'm no doctor.

[@NB-sq7ui]

Poor lizard..

[@robmohio77]

For those of us with stage 4 advanced cancer, I would strongly suggest not laughing during your presentation as this is not a humorous topic for us.