THE GREAT PROSTATE HOAX - SCIENCE TALK AND DISCUSSION

[@buckdashe2571]

It may be that I’m biased, but this guy makes sense to me. At 54 I was about to become a father for the first time. I thought it would be prudent to get like insurance. The insurer required a physical including blood tests, before approval. (I was in excellent physical condition, running three miles a day, working out two times a week…) Well, everything was fine except my PSA came back .05 above “normal.” (I think normal is a number like 4.5 or so….) So they denied me. I found a doctor (I had never had a regular doctor before…) and had a check up. He ordered another complete blood panel and in this one my PSA was even higher. Like “six.” He had done a digital but he wanted to send me to a “specialist” i.e. a urologist. So this urologist (who was a big guy with fingers the size of bananas) does a digital and orders another blood test. It comes back 7.5. So he says let’s do a biopsy. So here we are, relying solely on the PSA ti do this invasive procedure. On the day of, they gave me Valium and used a local on the prostate itself. The administration of the local hurt like HELL. It wasn’t enough…the whole process was VERY painful. And it seemed weird that the urologist was just randomly selecting EIGHT places in my prostate to sample. Then for almost two weeks after, ruination was difficult and I was required to whack off at least once a day and I was ejaculating blood for the first three days. This was the worst experience of my life and that’s what I told my doctor. The biopsy (which I refer to as a “poke and hope”) came back negative. We did another PSA and it came back at like, 14. The urologist said we would look at scheduling another biopsy. WTF. I said to my doctor, “Don’t you think my high PSA might have something to do with my prostate being violently assaulted?” He paused and said he would try treating me for prostatitis and put me on antibiotics. Next test my PSA dropped to FIVE. Never went back to that urologist. Fast forward 8-9 years. New doctor, new testing. He says maybe you should see a urologist…you know just to have a look. So I found one and the first thing I did was relate my horrible experience and told him up front, not doing that again. Well, he does digital exams, blood tests, pee tests, blah blah. Tells me my prostate is slightly enlarged (no shit? I’m over 60!) and he feel’s something weird and wants to do a biopsy. I said no. Not unless he know specifically where he’s poking. Well, he couldn’t say. I said I just read in a medical journal of a new MRI procedure that cans identify irregularities in the prostate to provide a more accurate result. (Why hadn’t HE learned if this?) So he says okay…so I go to get this approved by Blue Cross/Blue Shield and they deny…because their physician leading the decision making doesn’t find it acceptable yet…. Urologist says he won’t see me again unless I agree to a biopsy. Fuck them all. I stopped seeing “urologists” and stick with my annual physical. I’m over 70 and FINALLY, am getting back to being able to pee (and ejaculate) normally. Yes, that initial biopsy debilitated my functions down there for this long… So yeah…I’m biased.

[@ProctorsGamble]

Trauma to the prostate will raise a PSA. I get mine checked every 8 months but always wait at least three days after sex or any unusual injury in that region.

[@jimisnotunique]

@buckdashe2571 , one of the most useful Internet posts I've run across. Thanks for taking time to write this up.

[@anthonystreeter7808]

They do not mention the potential serious side effects of the biopsy itself. About 10 years ago I had the PSA test through my family my doctor. It came back at 5. He referred me to a urologist who did a biopsy. Less than 2 days later my family had to rush me to the emergency room. Right after I got there I could no longer stand. A UTI had progressed through sepsis to septic shock. I was on the ICU for 3 days before the antibiotics worked and I was discharged. After the antibiotics that I took home finished the UTI came back. After more antibiotics finished the infection spread to my testicles. It was 8 months before the last ultrasound showed the infection had cleared. After almost dying I am not going to any more urologists. I will take my chances. My PSA is still 5.

[@anthonystreeter7808]

And there was no cancer.

[@jimisnotunique]

@@anthonystreeter7808 thanks, very helpful info, and kind of you to post. Sorry you went through that. The medical establishment has become very corrupt. Their incompetent and corrupt COVID response exposed them. My blood pressure (BP) is average for someone my age But they changed BP ranges (e.g., high, low, etc), so I'm now considered "at risk", but wasn't before the change. I suspect the change in ranges was done to sell BP drugs. Similarly, they classify me as "obese", but I am fit and a little chubby-- no where close to the normal meaning of "obese". Again, I suspect the classification is made to sell drugs.

[@mikem4883]

I was 7.8 psa 15 years ago. Refused a biopsy and refused the psa after being hounded by my doc to see a urologist. 15 years later, I am still here. Peeing is now more frequent, but what can you expect in my high 70's. Still no psa test either. God has my time down.

[@212Roger]

👍

[@Ptpop]

I’m in that situation now. I’m 57 and my PSA is 7.7. I’ve seen three Urologists and each want me to get a biopsy. One highly recommended getting my prostate removed IF they find cancer. WTF this is the only answer the medical industry has come up with for diagnosis and treatment of prostate cancer? If this is how breast cancer was treated women would marching in the streets for justice.

[@212Roger]

Smart! You’ll die from something else before your enlarged prostrate.

[@mikem4883]

@@Ptpop hello. I am77 now. Have not had a stupid psa test as of 15 years ago as mentioned. At my age I have BPH (enlarged) prostate as harder to pee unless I drink a lot of water, and I have tried the saw palmetto route etc to no avail with other naturals. Other than that, I am fine. That biopsy screening, is horrible I hear, and personally I think it is an opening for surgery for $$$$$$ if a person did have a cancer biopsy, all the needles they would poke one with in the biopsy would certainly be a problem, not to mention infections. Simply put, it’s not for me and God has protected me from those butchers. And yes, they get angry when you refuse. Big deal. It’s all money today. Every horrible Covid shot they gave , gave them doctors 100.00 plus/ patient. Nope they lost my trust . I wish you the best. I can only tell you what I did. Educate yourself on KZbin . I am glad I took my route. I take essiac tea the last ten years. That is the BEST to prevent or fight ANY CANCER. CAN BE bought at a health food store made or you make yourself, which is what I do with the herbs.

[@jaybrox1652]

A lot of RUMBLING about something that is obvious..if you dont check your prostste go and chevk your brain.!

[@larrycarter2173]

I’m 81 and had recent surgery for a swollen prostate affecting ability to pee. Still HAVE a prostate even when my PSA was as high as 12 more than 15 years ago. Two buddies had elevated PSAs about the same time and had surgeries. One died of cancer a year later and the other wears a diaper. Both wanted me to have surgery too. Drs are paid for “procedures.” I don’t let them “practice”on me. I prefer to be proactive about my health.

[@leonpetersen7346]

and GOOD for you, sir!!!

[@lukemarcelle3585]

What am I supposed to take from this Mr Carter?

[@venician2face]

"Two buddies had elevated PSAs about the same time and had surgeries." This is ridiculus. No one has surguries on the basis of elevated PSA's. You only have surgeries or other treatment if you are confirmed to have prostate cancer. It must be confirmed by Biopsy. The only time such treatment might not be recommened is if one's age and/or health would cause one not be robust enough to withstand the treatment.

[@larrycarter2173]

Venician did you watch the video? You shouldn’t make declarative statements without proof or examples.

[@lorrainemagarian2677]

Good for you!

[@lbpiercy]

Couple of few years ago my physical showed my PSA was a 4.0 which is considered high. My dad was always getting biopsies because his prosate was very large and his PSA has been going up for decades but they never found cancer. I go to a urologist who does the finger test and tells me if feels off and I should get a biopsy right away. You know where they stick 12 needles from inside your colon, thru the colon walls and into the fairly sterlie prostate and randomly hope they hit any cancer. And hopefully if they hit cancer and drag the cancer soaked needle out it does not spead the cancer. I told him an MRI would make better sense based on what my Dad had been thru and he told me there wasnt that much time and "if you were my brother or dad Iwould tell me to do the biopsy right now. " He had just about convinced me to do it when.. I got to the front desk and knowing the urgency ask how fast could they get the bipsy done and she tells me they are booked up for 3 - 4 months. So much for the urgency. I saw another urologiest and asked for an MRI and he had the MRI done which was level 2 which is the best you get with an enlarged prostate and no sign af any cancer. I really feel like the first urologist would byopsy a woman for prostate cancer to keep the calendar full and the cash flowing.

[@peterclemmet]

You are so right, this doctor sets it out correctly.

[@ebenokwei9325]

Kindly may I know where to get best care for my enlarged prostate

[@F8Tributo]

​​@@ebenokwei9325Dr Adhoot, at Cedar Sinai hospital in LA, and Scionti Prostate Ctr, Sarasota, FL. Research metabolic factors, reduce sugar + carbs, exercise daily, take supplements, before anything else

[@F8Tributo]

​@@ebenokwei9325I answered your question with contact info for leading physicians in Sarasota, FL, and LA, CA. But my post was removed. 🤷‍♂️

[@icebirdz]

Great writing......story 🤠🎩

[@Renoster77]

At 53 years old in 2018 I had a routine PSA,zero symptoms ,levels were elevated,saw a urologist and the internal raised questions,within a month I had an MRI and biopsy Diagnosed stage 4 metastatic prostate cancer,Gleason 9 Had radical prostatectomy,psa levels after 0 January 2019 went on hormone therapy,July suspended due to side effects I’ve elected no further treatment,currently PSA 30 and climbing Im ready to meet my Creator My body my choice

[@saviour2144]

how are you now? i hope youre better.

[@tnvol5331]

A radical prostatectomy will not cure the metastatic portion since it has spread to other organs. Doesn't it take radiation to cure that?

[@flextapeking6614]

Ivermectin to rid your body of paracite. Change diet. Eliminate sugar, dairy, cheese, also red meat, processed foods. clean up your diet. Rid your body of Paricites. Look into alternative options. Hoxey Center. Read Dr. Hoxey book. Look up on KZbin and watch testimonials from patients who followed the Dr. Hoxey tonic & Diet. Prostate cancer can take a few years because the body creates a fortress to protect it. Also remove anything negative in your life. Family issues etc. Have faith and peace plus you must want to live. The Mind & heart is what heals the body to heal. My fathers score was 1300. in 3 years it is not 1.03. He followed a strict diet.

[@davidtrindle6473]

Are you saying you wish you had the psa test at a younger age?

[@justdoesntaddup8620]

@@davidtrindle6473 I reckon the high grades, the G8, 9 & 10 , (that’s the E5’s) they are off and spreading themselves around from day 1, , before it’s even detectable.

[@Markdmarque]

Having worked as a Lab Automation Engineer for 2 companies I am very sceptical of many tests.Some are good but many can be very unreliable. It is often the immunoassay and PCR trats that are sometimes more dubious. The Chemistry tests seem to be fairly robust. Also one of the companies was unethically promoting more tests than necessary and against the health guidelines to produce more profitable returns. As with Covid pcr tests they were unreliable and could very easily be manipulated to give everyone a false positive

[@8675-__]

Thanks for your honesty! I'm in complete agreement.

[@usernwn7qe]

Really ? Chemistry is good ? Wanna see studies on pneumonia with NO leucocytes ? I quit doing blood work years ago, it´s not only a racket but dangerous and potentially misleading.

[@davidtrindle6473]

Sounds like another covid conspiracy theory. I do not believe you.

[@texaslibertyadvocatenetwork]

Read between the lines... it is all fraud.

[@folkmoot36]

I wonder, is misdiagnosis of cancer deliberate, so they can claim a better cure rate. I would put anything pass the medical industry.

[@frankhardie4708]

At the VA, my urologist suggested a biopsy when my PSA was 4.7. When I got home, I looked up as much as I could on the www. A biopsy is 12 core samples of the prostate. I thought that was an awful assault on an already sick prostate, especially, it being a hit or miss way to find out if I had cancer. I refused the biopsy. Now after watching Dr. Ablin, I see I made the correct decision.

[@MikeMike-sd9rj]

After over 50 years as a Family Practitioner, I would add another caution to the interpretation of PSA. Before you refer the patient with an elevated PSA to the urologist, be sure you have ruled out the posibility of prostatitis. It is more common than you think and in many patients the symptoms are those of BPH or an aging prostate and not those of infection. My recommendation is to do a urinalysis and culture and even consider a culture of an ejaculate, then give a therapeutic trial of an antibiotic( 4 weeks of a antibiotic that covers urnary pathogens) and recheck the PSA. I have had numerous cases where the PSA normalized or returned to baseline.

[@marekleniartek4001]

In 1999 urologist suggested a biopsy (PSA 6.3). I was visited Poland and see a urologist professor. He performed probe view a prostate on the screen ( only enlarge prostate) and prescribe me Finasteride 5mg a day and told me: don't let anybody touch your e..s. After 2 month PSA went down to 3.1 and in august 2023 is btw. 3.1-3.3.

[@DESASNADOR]

Anyway...a little-known information...a biopsy in itself...often can later on cause a tumor to become malignant by contaminated instruments...already proven in many instances to not become totally sterilized...even after being sanitized using proper equipment...and procedures...Perhaps "liquid biopsy" could become a safer option from now on...

[@212Roger]

You made the right choice. That is old technology, merely throwing darts randomly. The treatment is getting better, slowly. Do your own research.

[@212Roger]

@@DESASNADOR True! An infection can occur too.

[@everettputerbaugh3996]

V.A. is my "Obama care" provider. I asked my (now retired) primary care physician about the PSA test and was told that it is no longer recommended because of the very reasons mentioned in this video: false positives leading to invasive tests, etc.

[@212Roger]

The PSA test is like taking your blood pressure. It can vary from one day to the next. Refrain from sex for three days before having a PSA test, as this will lower your number.

[@Kaoniao]

In retrospective all Dr. Ablin tells us, makes even more sense after the covid time. And to go against the dogma I am sure needs a lot of courage, endurance and faith in one own’s judgments. And he gains no big money, he just does it anyway, I suppose - a real man, thank you.

[@scaryfakevirus]

Big pharma (Rockefeller) want your money that's all.

[@wilbers1970]

A real man. Beautifully said

[@StofStuiver]

Dont get me started on that one. I was deep in it in jan 2020 and i did not like what i found at all. The pca test itself was completely out of perimeters and should never have been used like that. The remedy as they brought it was even more crooked and they are still pushing that poison.

[@glennrobinson7193]

​@@wilbers1970A real man, definitely, because he's not afraid of losing friends or be rejected and banned by the medical establishment

[@ricknowak4582]

I went t 00 2 radiologists and one urologist and these people are calling me all the time. I have a gleason seven. In five cores. Which is in the best I know. But I am going to wait. And they can't wait to give me hormone treatment. Just more teeth To get in me . That's what I. Think

[@afifahhamilton8843]

That chuckle at 1:25:52 - 1:26:09 by the moderator at the end of Gerd Gigerenzer's comments on the need to look to one's Hippocratic oath, was very telling! We medical practitioners should indeed keep that solemn oath front and centre of all our utterances and actions when it comes to patients, who put their trust in us. No chuckle please. This issue of failing to maintain that oath has been one of the main causes of the mayhem of the 'covid pandemic' years. Too few doctors had the courage to stand by their oath, and too many put the £ and $ and their own self consideration ahead of their true obligations. Not ONE doctor or person with a covid jab in their hand, about to deploy it into the deltoid muscle of an unsuspecting citizen, knew what was in it, nor what the potential harms were. ALL of these people should be held to account, in a court of law, like Nuremberg. Seven doctors were hanged after their trials at Nuremberg because they disregarded their own oath. How many more should we see on the gallows today? It's in the hundreds of thousands, and all of them might have chuckled, like this moderator, about their moral failures.

[@brucknerian9664]

Doctors/nurses worldwide have become the new-Nazis--carring out orders. History not only repeats it grows ever more wicked and deadly with each new generation. I place my faith in Christ, not medical doctors pushing drugs for the Pharmaceutical industries out to make profits at any cost.

[@unclebenny9028]

The commercial will always trump individual rights... It's insidious because everyone thinks they need money to live...

[@nedce3442]

Very true

[@StofStuiver]

Yes its gotten very bad in the west. One reason for that is women. Another is corruption. Another is medical orgs, which alledgedly do the thinking for the medical doctors. Granted the field of an MD is huge and only got more complex with 'diversity' and 'equality' bs. And in fact, i dont think it werent even these mds that acted poorly in this situation. At the time, end 20 i think, i had to go to a lungspecialist, woman. My MD had listened to my lungs and said he heard a crackling sound, so suspected fluid behind my lungs wich was not good. So as i was there, had to have lung xrays and she listened and they wanted to do a breath test things and i refused that, bc i didnt trust breathing in that thing and even more so, out of that thing. It was all safe she said, but no way i was going to do that. So we sat there for some time and i had dove deep in all i could find on the 'disease'. So i asked, do you still have people with that disease? Oh yes, she said, all of them in the ward had it. I said, all of them? Yes, all of them. So i asked how do you know? I mean, obviously they all have lung problems, but isnt there influenze anymore? TB? Other? No, there werent. So i asked if they tested for the other things and i was shocked by the answer. No, they only did pcr test. I didnt make the obvious remark that they might aswell have a monkey do the diagnostics if the result is ALWAYS covid. Heck i can work as a lung specialist too then. Not long after (my lungs were ok, there was no fluid) i had to go to hospital again. This time my thumbs joints hurt, so an reumatologist. And indeed it was artrose (is worse now ;[ Anyway, the guy ensisted i wear a mask. I said no, bc its little use and covid was far passed its date. Everyone had been in contact with it so we all have immunity. He didnt agree, but i decided to leave it at that. So he said, id like to start you on HCQ. So i said, oh thats nice, bc it also works against covid. He got pissed off and said that wasnt true. It was a rumor Trump had started and that he was an idiot. I said IT DOES WORK and ive read all the medical studies on it. And it wasnt Trump that started that either. Now he got even more pissed off, but so was I. He yelled at me that he had read the studies and it didnt work. I yelled back LIAR. I HAVE READ the studies and if you had, youd know it too. so you are LYING. Its not Trump thats the idiot, but you are! How can you even start on politics??? FOOL. And thats when he yelled i had to get out and i didnt get HCQ anymore. Thats out specialists nowadays. Lying idiots, that dont know a damn thing. You may aswell google your symptoms do it all yourself, bc they have no clue anymore what they are doing. Its all about money. I really hate to say this, bc i always trusted our medical doctors, but this really opened my eyes. And not all are bad of course. My own experience is also no objective measure of course and i know specialists and regular mds that stuck their neck out, that did know things and that want to do good. But the system, threw those under the bus. Not the bad ones.... What can i say.... You better hope and start praying and study Then on top of all that, last year my cat died. From friggin cat covid. And then i read a short while ago that they developed these covids from the 50ies onward even in US labs. There was no cat covid prior to that. I HATE the bastards that make these diseases.

[@deadmanprodinc]

Including you? Perhaps if your job was on the line you might think differently about talking aloud or taking a strong position. This is a real problem, when citizens of the world are trapped living paycheck to paycheck and have to stifle their criticisms. This is not by accident. It is part of the overall world strategy. @@unclebenny9028

[@peterclemmet]

You’re a rare commodity in medical circles, honest research. Having listened to you in the past I consider you have saved my wellbeing. I refused a biopsy, instead adjusted diet and took natural supplements. Now 76, never get up at night, problem solved. Bravo doctor.

[@sburger1685]

What was your psa if I may ask. I was tested this week. They want me to fuel the system.

[@peterclemmet]

It was 8.5

[@sburger1685]

@@peterclemmet thanks mine is 8.6. I am almost 62. I am in good health. I am choosing to just monitor and will be increasing my lycopene, stinging nettles root and turkey tail mushrooms. I already eat a clove of crushed garlic aged 10 minutes every morning. Thanks again

[@peterclemmet]

What I did was to stop eating any crappy food which were high in sugar and additives, drink good green tea with added fresh lemon crushed cloves and honey or maple syrup, each morning I take Saw Palmetto tablets and zinc tablet. Every morning I have two fried eggs in olive oil and one whole avocado, then the most important thing is to sprinkle half teaspoon of Turmeric power with black pepper. Turmeric is an excellent anti inflammatory for the whole body especially the prostrate. A good site for unbiased info on KZbin is Dr. Berg, free info and he’s not selling anything.👍

[@mrofnocnon]

@@peterclemmet Well said, did you cut back the carbs or not? I totally agree about avoiding sugar, many of us have had more than our share of it.

[@MikeMike-sd9rj]

After over 50 years as a Family Practitioner, I would add another caution to the interpretation of PSA. Before you refer the patient with an elevated PSA to the urologist, be sure you have ruled out the posibility of prostatitis. It is more common than you think and in many patients the symptoms are those of BPH or an aging prostate and not those of infection. My recommendation is to do a urinalysis and culture and even consider a culture of an ejaculate, then give a therapeutic trial of an antibiotic and recheck the PSA. I have had numerous cases where the PSA normalized or returned to baseline.

[@T9RX3]

How is a culture of ejaculate done?

[@aralsea5880]

@@T9RX3 Either you ejaculate in a plastic urine container in the restroom of the lab or you do it at home providing though that your house is not more than half hour far from the lab.

[@GRBOOTH]

agree @@T9RX3

[@Archi-baby]

Hi I'm Trevor from England I'm having trouble peing wot do you recommend please

[@456zounds]

@@Archi-baby When I had total urinary retention(after an accident, about four years ago) --very scary...and required several ER visits and getting catheterized...I was able to solve the problem (to TOTAL recovery) via Chiro. and Acupuncture (and Beta-sitosterol to shrink the prostate)....HONEST!!! Trevor, nowadays (with a smaller prostate now), I have no trouble urinating or having multiple nocturnal visits to the bathroom.

[@rustybolts8953]

About ten years ago I received scant information indicating that a rectal biopsy can cause cancer. This lecture confirms that info but far more in depth. I suspect that this is yet another case of mainly money motivated medical money making swindles. Omitting or refusing to release public information adds to my suspicions... I am 72 years young with no prostrate problem. I do eat meat and have the occasional few whiskies. I do enjoy and love life. Thanks Dr.Ablin for a very informative lecture.

[@fillinman1]

I can't agree more about Dr. Ablin. Courage. Determination. Love. Don't know about rectal cancer and an exam but I did read like 600 people a year in u.s. die from bacterial infection received from the scope cuz the autoclave and cleaning procedures just can't be perfected. Comments on medical videos have informed me== 1. People like us in our early seventies are interested in real health info and 2. are or are becoming fairly savvy about not going along with the Med System dictates. Mostly. ha.

[@johnbascietto2207]

I’m sorry I got hold of this information 5 years to late . I had radiation for the Prostat and I’m sorry my love life does suffer from it I’m 72 so I keep blaming my age for ED but it might have been better if I didn’t fall down that rabbit hole..

[@lancastrian413]

The people who control the world do not need money. Money is a tool of control which they monopolise through its creation from nothing. The one immovable ideé fixé among the parasitic 'elite' is population control. Yes, they use money to get their highly paid puppets to do the dirty work. But make no mistake. The lowering of life expectancy and rise of chronic diseases in 'developed' nations is no accident.

[@paul756uk2]

You say that you eat meat as if it's a guilty pleasure. Over the last few years from what I've read and seen, I believe that it's something that should be regularly included in your diet for its health benefits, and that includes eating the fat. Most of what we've been told over the years is a lie. So many people, from the comments I read have cured many illnesses by going carnivore.

[@Davidf8L]

Thanks for sharing ,I'm 70 with 4. Years cancer, refused surgery and now I'm still eating meat drinking wine and tending my farm daily peace and love to you guys ❤

[@Dr.Pepper001]

I'm 76 and my PSA levels keep going up, so I had a biopsy at my VA Medical Facility. I have 3 malignant nodules. The doctor said he won't treat the cancer because I can live another 12 to 15 years before the cancer kills me. VA doctors are not under pressure to do surgeries like in the civilian world.

[@pootieputin2771]

You may want to rethink your options... otherwise you might end up spending those last years in and out of the hospital and in significant pain.

[@snorttroll4379]

Apparently cutting carbs out totally, fixes some cancers

[@familyvid1]

What he didn't tell you is that without surgery, you will have to take hormone blockers, and chemo drugs. You will be fighting it for years. Who cares if you live till 90 if your last 10 years is one of fatigue, weakness, nocturia, and full of TV watching. Don't buy this guy's BS. It also depends on your Gleason score and how aggressive it is. Facts are prostate cancer is undertreated for men who have longevity in their family and it does kill them over years usually with painful bone metastasis.

[@GT380man]

Honestly, there’s risk whatever you decide. Surgery carries significant risks of chronic pain. Biopsy likewise. They’re not purely an economic thing, where a ruck guy gets it done & might benefit & the poor guy doesn’t & might miss that cancer. If you proceed down the biopsy path, three things. 1. You’re quite UNlikely to get a definite answer. Now you’re neither a cancer patient nor are you well. Probably this’ll be true for the rest of your life. Consider the psychological price you & your loved ones will pay. 2. You’re running a not insignificant risk of pain that can be persistent and even chronic. That’s my situation though how I got there wasn’t a prostate biopsy but a bladder problem that was mishandled. 3. You might get a result that isn’t definitively bad but your doctor is “concerned”. You’ll.be back in a year and you’ll probably do the same things again. I recognize it’s possible that by proceeding along the path of a regular medical (even though you’re perfectly well), getting an elevated PSA, having a biopsy, finding tumours that haven’t yet metastasised and having surgery & radiotherapy, not having significant side effects that just maybe, your life has been extended. Isn’t medicine brilliant!? Yet if you put 1000 men through that funnel and I’m almost certain that net harm will result. What we’re not told before getting unnecessarily medicalised is that this pattern isn’t uncommon. Prostates are particularly bad for this, but the potential is there for false positives and false negatives in just about all medical screening funnels.

[@ricknowak4582]

Thank you three month man. I am seventy years old. P s a was thirteen. Metabolic therapy going down T o Eight in four months. Lemon juice, cayenne pepper,, steam tomatoes. Juicing. E t c. Five Co R e s were 3+4=7 That's intermediate but the doctors three of them all want to do therapy immediately!!!! ADT TOO!!!! its all about the BENJAMINS I believe.

[@chrisl442]

A radio oncologist once asked me to have a look at PSA data he had collected from many patients. I told him almost immediately the changes he observed were not statistically significant and that he couldn't do any screening based on it. That was 20y ago. PSA level changes all the time depending on your activities. I can't believe how poor at math doctors are,, and this is very concerning.

[@456zounds]

EXACTLY right!!!!....and I've become convinced that most urologists have a SCAM going...with prostate biopsies and surgeries. Mine, 3x back was pretty good, but the last two have been disappointing...and even that "better one" could not be contacted when I had two crises...and just had to hit the ER. I do Beta-Sitosterol, and some herbal supplements, along with Chiro. and Acupuncture now....and EVERYTHING "down there" works fine now (and, typically, only have ONE nightly bathroom visit each day)!!!

[@rogerhutton9384]

😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊

[@geraldwalsh6489]

Had PSA test 13 years ago....reading was 6.6 and after a dre test, my gp said there was an issue. Went to local urology consultant and he thought it was cancer. Biopsy came back negative for cancer but said there was an infection which was not prostatitus. Went on course of antiobiotics. After this course,second psa test showed 6.5.....very same result. 13 years later all is well,waterworks fine. What gives? After scaring the hell out of me there was nothing wrong with my prostate. I just eat plenty tomatoes,cruciferous veg, green tea,etc. I have never felt so well in all my life and I am now 67! All I am saying is these postaste tests are not reliable,especially when they rely so much on dre exams and psa tests.

[@MrJOHNMICHAELVEGA]

What is Dre?

[@trekketoo]

@@MrJOHNMICHAELVEGA I'd say digital rectal exam

[@torstenheling3830]

Excellent!

[@profngurewamwachofi3243]

When we take into account that humans, including doctors, are driven by self-interest you can't help but recognise that _the interpretation of results will be influenced by the desire to make some money out of a patient who is already vulnerable and also gullible because the doctor is a "doctor" not just a lay person._ So the power of the patient to be sceptical is removed and it is no wonder so many men end up being the guinea pigs. I think that, recognising that we will all die when our time comes, it is best to maintain serious diet protocol -- prevention is better than cure.

[@edjackson4986]

I would point the finger at that

[@iguanaamphibioustruck7352]

I am a 87 year old male of Scandinavian and English decent with a prostate history I was a bed wetter at 12 and cured by a WW2 doctor Temple who prescribed multivitamins In my 30's, I was diagnosed with Reiter's Syndrome. prostatitis, uveitis and arthritis I discovered that it was caused by dairy products and later that cooking solved the problem. At age 64, I had a psa of 6. and had my first turp and a 2nd turp at age 73. A biopsy after the 2nd turp showed cancer in one quadrant. .My psa every 6 month since has been as high as 10. However i have learned that sex, masturbations' or arousal the day before the blood test has an effect. Now, at age 87, I have had at least 6 close friends who have died from prostate cancer. I have a pilot and mechanics license from Utah State and a degree in Industrial Engineering from Cal Poly so, I think in terms of statistics, probability and the confidence interval. Your presentation presents an interesting hypothesis that connects what your thinking (or dreaming) may determine if you die from prostate cancer? Dave Hansen

[@karenf9137]

I have read some articles about zinc being important for prostate (cancer). I’d also look at Selenium (Brazil nuts), Mg, and Vit D.

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

Chronic inflammatory disease likely lies at the root of all diseases. The major contributors to this are *sugar* and so called *vegetable oils* which are so ubiquitous, it's hard to outrun them!

[@mrofnocnon]

@@eugeniustheodidactus8890Absolutely!

[@billw6903]

@@eugeniustheodidactus8890 yes then avoid excess sugar avoid disease

[@456zounds]

I was a bed-wetter took Bro...and Chiropractic (and time) totally resolved the problem!!

[@gardengnome3249]

I sincerely hope that since covid, patients the world over, like me, have become a lot more skeptical with what we are told. My real problem is being able to think of questions at the point of diagnosis. Also the last thing I want to do is go to a doctor saying I saw this on you tube, now, what do you think? I got told I needed a rectal biopsy a few years ago and now I find out I should have questioned its efficacy. This is not fair, not everyone has the same mental capacity or accurity. During covid I kept hearing the word sheeple and thought it funny now I know I was one of them and have been for a very long time. this saddens me. Every time my ship sailed over seas I had to have vaccines boosted. One made me sick for a day every time, everyone knew it but you were expected to carry on. Service first, not you first. My psa has gone from 3 to 10 to 15 back to 8. I did think to ask what can I do to reduce it and was told nothing. I have a blood test again in 1 mth and am now hoping the taking of my blood wiil cause no harm You experts now scare the hell out of me. I think I will go down to my vege patch and watch the bees pollinate and have a beer or 3. Good luck world you are going to need it. Greed has overtaken.

[@lawrencewright2816]

In my mind, the last 3 years by have called into question the very legitimacy of allopathic medicine.

[@StofStuiver]

Yes, we do have to think for ourselves. And i actually do it when at my MD; tell him what i found when i researched it. MDs dont like that much, if at all, but he knows it by now and i sure as heck am not letting any procedures or load up on medicine just bc they say so. Heck a couple of years ago i was kicked out a specialist in hospital over a dispute. Its my friggin body and if they start lying to me, they get a shitload of me over them. I rather just die then have some quack play with my body. btw, all those shots you took were probably still ok. Just dead or weakened virus and so as they used to make vax. The covid thing though is something entirely different. I did not get any of that and over my dead body will they inject me with that. Ill fight them to the death if need be. (not advising anyone. i am no MD, so each must make their own decisions wrt this)

[@456zounds]

I suggest you hunt around...until you find a good urologist. Though, I have to admit that I've found MOST to be oriented toward recruiting candidates for doing biopsies and surgeries...which are often unnecessary.

[@robinsullivan3141]

This is amazing discussion considering the recent fraudulent use of PCR as a marker. Everyone should consider reaching out to alternative medical professionals - functional, integrative, naturopathic, nutritional, chiropractic, osteopathic - there is a wealth of information on how to heal from root causes including cancer.

[@garyssimo]

Robin, I could not have said it better!

[@leoandolino4668]

Only route for me should need it.

[@davidharris2147]

@robinsullivan3141 Nearly everyone in western society has been taken in by big pharma AND the American Dental Association. The American Dental Association was formed specifically to promote the use of mercury amalgams to fill people's teeth. Mercury is known to be very highly toxic by the chemists. The dentists say that covering the fillings with saliva inhibits the vaporization of mercury. What a laugh. Mercury is very toxic to the body. The thing is that it does not occur right away. It takes years for the toxicity to show up. 80% of the mercury vapor that is inhaled is absorbed. The metallic mercury does stay in the body. Until it is oxidized to methyl mercury. That stuff gets transferred into the brain. Mercury in +2 valence state is particularly dangerous. It binds to selenium with a fierce avidity. That bond cannot be broken by any known reaction the body is capable of achieving. Mercury in the brain leads to brain selenium deficiency!! Never mind what mercury does primarily to the immune system of the body. Brain selenium deficiency will lead to Alzheimer's disease. It will also lead to Parkinson's disease. In the body it leads to an overactive and underactive immune system at the same time. A breakdown in immune function leads to all kinds of cancer. Look up Dr. Lorraine Day's bout with breast cancer. Of her daily protocol to rebuild her immune system. The lady with terminal breast cancer healed herself. Without needing any of the professions you mentioned. The problem with the health of the western world comes from mercury. Lead and cadmium also play big roles but it is the dentists who are putting mercury into people's mouths and then ruining their health over the years. The big pharma companies are aware of this. They say nothing because they make their money chasing down the diseases that immune suppression and brain dysfunction cause.

[@billhanna8838]

In NZ they have millions of PCR test kits , Millions sitting in warehouses across the country - Follow the money ?

[@alext8828]

I like to follow Sten Ekberg and John Campbell. Both doctors but not MDs. Excellent video channels.

[@fredflintstone8048]

The love of money is the root of all evil - 1 Timothy 6:10 I am very thankful that when I went to see my Doctor when I was 55 years old for a routine physical that my Doctor knew these things that Dr. Ablin speaks about. I asked about getting the screening and he told me that PSA screening is a waste of time and didn't do it, and briefly explained the reasons to me. I was lucky. I knew many men who had the screening, were diagnosed with prostate cancer, and suffered the results of the treatment which of course they carry daily until the ends of their lives.

[@Peter_Pepper_Love]

"Hey ya Fred"👋🏻😉💛

[@maxcarter3413]

...all kinds of evil... NOT ...all evil...

[@mrofnocnon]

You were lucky you had such a good doctor.

[@theprophet489]

The culture of America is the greed for money you have a sss and insurance ok no problem you are welcome 😂

[@kellyclover5953]

For many years I have had basement low PSA. This test should never have been approved for widespread use if it's extremely unreliable like you say.

[@joeyfotofr]

The test, itself, is not bad. It is the over-reliance on a test that does not offer clear guidance, that's the problem.

[@Peter-km7hb]

The Godfather of the PSA test says today do not use it it's basically useless go with a PHI test

[@dalecarleton6409]

I thank these 4 men for the advise and inspiration that they have provided. This helpful for myself, son and grandkids . We don’t have accurate information to make decisions because our doctors don’t , they have only what drug companies are flooding the marketing with. We go to doctors because we believe they have the knowledge and our health in their better interest. Drug and insurance companies only serve their own interests at public expense. We would like to have a quality life with family till the end. Accurate information is paramount.

[@broskoone]

@@trafficjon400 get a shrink.

[@trafficjon400]

@@broskoone would it not bother you so much to shrink.

[@colintillyer2893]

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[@raghunathkutre9761]

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[@orlonedwards4873]

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[@gordondawson8576]

I would like to applaud the organisers, the host, guest speaker and panel for sharing their thoughts and wisdom as at 2017. It is conversations like this that move us on.

[@ricknowak4582]

I agree one hundred percent but I didn't like some of the people in the audience. They were rude. Not paying attention.

[@Riptack7591]

Wonderful to have honest science instead of pokitics and greed informing my decisions. A great man...

[@ipomoeaalba936]

The psa false positives reminded me of the *C-19 pcr test* false positives

[@thomaslehmann5981]

Honest science my ass

[@edcarson3113]

@@thomaslehmann5981did you take any co vi d shots?

[@johnreidy2804]

@@edcarson3113 Covid shots DO NOT raise PSA levels. Honestly you anti vaccine folks are just too much

[@thomaslehmann5981]

@edcarson3113 fucking right I did and I followed up on rising psa and turned out I have prostate cancer. Don't listen to this old fool. Try to get over thinking everyone is out to get you. This guy's advice is great if you don't mind winding up dead.

[@mrofnocnon]

Rather like screening for covid using a PCR test which can be used to create 100% positives very easily.

[@darrellturner560]

@@thomaslehmann5981 PCR is not a diagnostic tool. It was never intended to be one. It is laboratory tool for multiplying molecules to study. Therefore the comment is not producing a conspiracy theory only speaking fact. May I suggest you do a little research on the matter. I have aggressive prostrate cancer which has metastasized so I know a bit about the differences and researching things is a hobby of mine.

[@raphaelmoraczewski1106]

​@@darrellturner560Post your comment on the main thread.

[@timmobley8387]

They used to take care of mentalities like yours, using a stake.

[@mrofnocnon]

@@timmobley8387Apparently you don't need the stake, the damage is ALREADY DONE.

[@marktbrowne4488]

I'm 74 and hadn't had a PSA for 10 years (2.8 back then) when my current doc said "you're healthy, fit, and active and you might live for a lot longer than 10 years if you don't have prostate cancer- let's check your PSA, even though it's against protocol." He explained the risk/benefits, and I'm a retired oncology RN who had no symptoms. It came back 8.2 and with the digital exam found a lump on the left side. My later biopsy showed intermediate grade high risk cancer. I explored TULSA and Proton therapy but for a number of reasons it turned out that robotic assisted laparoscopic surgery at a University Hospital was my best option. It's only been 2 weeks, and I'm still leaking a little, but it has been a relatively easy recovery. I'm hoping my Kegel exercises with stop that leaking. The post op pathology report was much worse than the biopsy report, but lymph nodes and margins were clear, so I think they caught the cancer before it escaped the capsule. His point that men have gotten over treated is valid, but teaching us to not over-react to low risk cancer levels is the a better approach than to ignore one of the diagnostic tools available. I joined a couple of research studies, giving blood and permission to use my scans and tissue samples to help develop other tests and markers to help future patients.

[@donapodaca3729]

Hi Mark, I wish you all the best with your recovery. Thanks for sharing. I'm a bit confused and given your onco experience I was hoping could clarify your post where you say "...I think they caught the cancer before it escaped the capsule..." From the little that I know about the needle biopsy process, wouldn't the puncturing of cancerous gland tissue and the retraction of the needle actually CREATE an opportunity for "cancer escape from the capsule"? Am I missing something here? Plz advise - thx, don

[@mikewhite9818]

@@donapodaca3729. Yes a biopsy increases the odds of cancer escaping to spread especially to lymph nodes.

[@thomasjamison2050]

The prostate business is most definitely a racket, just like most other aspects of our truly lame medicine for profit healthcare. And I learned a lot about the view of it from the vantage point of hospitals when my wife went through a medical horror story of the first order that caused her unnecessary premature death. Also learned a lot about medical case lawyers as well as acquiring a great deal of knowledge about the games doctors play to minimize their liability once they realize they have screwed the pooch. Then came the day I told my GP what I thought of medicine in the US and so he told me I could no longer be his patient. Must have struck a bone on that one.

[@lancastrian413]

Doctors need you to be ignorant and compliant. Show any knowledge which exposes their fraud and you will be shown the door. Any doctor who, after a few years practising, hasn't worked out that he is part of a criminal conspiracy which harms healthy people is either stupid or a psychopath who doesn't care.

[@jumpingship3001]

Condolences for your loss. Yes you were in the belly of the beast.

[@robfreeman5783]

Spot on. It's a slow growing highly prevalent cancer that becomes increasingly irrelevant as age progresses. Why do we think the urologists want screening to happen at younger ages? So they can pluck $$$ from these people via procedures before they die of other unrelated causes.

[@StofStuiver]

I had a little something myself with my MD. I dont really want to talk about it, but i was there for an appointment. And all those get registered. I was desperate. Took pills. Did something i shouldnt have. Woke up in ICU. Then the next day was brought to prison. Lawyer came at some point and i told what i knew. I told everyone, bc im an honest person. So i said i had been to the doc. He says well then, bla bla. I said i dont want to do that. Its not my docs fault. So he said ok. He requested my medical record anyway and one day he came with that pack of paper. So he says. its not in there that you were there prior. And it wasnt. So he had deleted it. To cover his ass. Now its not his fault. How was he to know i would freak out? I didnt even know myself. When i got back home, years later i called, but they didnt want me as patient again. I said ok, but can i at least have a talk with him? Ive been with that doc for over 20 years. Nope, he didnt want to talk with me either. I found that such a bummer. Then i read what was left of my medical dossier, bc my lawyer had already 'cleaned it up' (... ????) I was 52 at the time. It was on my BD. So all my medical shoulda been in there. Some old stuff was still there, nothing out of the ordinary, but when i got to his 20 years, which is also when i got psych problems, depression and so, he had written very odd things. So i started cleaning up myself and burnt it in the woodburner. Nothing was left. It was either irrelevant to anything i can ever get, or negative things about me that he had written. So when i got to my new doc, he wanted my medical records. I said, i cleaned it up, theres nothing left. He frowned. And then i told him i do not ever wish to see anything written down from me, that i say to him. He agreed to that. Specially now, that 'big brother' has its claws into everything, you dont want things passed on that you tell your MD in confidence.

[@456zounds]

BRAVO!!! A while back, I had a good urologist, who supported me in holding off on anything radical in way of surgery or doing biopsies (and just kind've "keeping an eye out" for any changes)(with a somewhat elevated PSA, but--I understand--what was fairly typical for a senior, and a distinctly enlarged prostate (and SOME signs of nocturia and night-time urgency). But, since I moved to two other urologists, all I'm hearing have been DEMANDS for biopsies!! One of them even suggested I forget about subsequent visits, as we weren't really doing anything useful, as he put it!! In recent history (due to Chiropractic and Acupuncture...and some key supplements), I've seen an abatement of prostate-related signs and symptoms...e.g.. now, I might have to get up at night...about once/night...which doesn't seem to be a big deal...and--I'm pretty sure--reflects a shrinkage of my prostate, as my lower abdomen seems smaller these days. I'm looking forward to an ultrasound--in the near future--to verify this. And everything urogenital is working just fine, thank you!! I'm going to add that I understand that MANY things can affect the PSA levels...EVEN just having just had sex, so it's a test which must be used with considerable discretion (and common sense)!!! ; )

[@truthcrusade8371]

Excellent! Thank you for exposing the flawed foundations of this racket.

[@johnburman966]

A friend was diagnosed with prostate cancer in his 70's but used a Chinese herbalists advice to only eat raw vegetables for 2 years or longer, no other treatment. He became very thin but felt healthy.....lived into his 90’s and died of old age. All his friends with the same diagnosis and conventional treatment died after only a few years. Maybe he was lucky who knows.

[@gregorywootton3870]

Cancer is a metabolic disease

[@kwimms]

All animals eat raw food, why should we be the only exception? We are apes. Apes eat fruit! Not luck - common sense!

[@johnburman966]

@@kwimms I take it you live on fruit then....and show great common sense.

[@subbegowda4635]

​@@kwimmscc

[@schmingusss]

Perhaps he just had a less malignant / aggressive form of prostate cancer.

[@pianogal853]

Cancer diagnosis and treatment are such big business that I don't trust anything they say - I verify. For the same reason, I haven't ever had a mammogram. Data demonstrates that more cancer has been caused by repeated mammograms than caught by them.

[@joycewright5386]

I agree. I had a doctor friend who told me the amount of radiation used in mammograms was more dangerous.

[@seascape35]

I find Dr. Stephan's comments most enlightening. He recognizes that PSA alone is a poor test, but along with other factors and tests, one can differentiate aggressive cancers from indolent cases in an increasing percentage of men. And, as he points out, if the patient with the 240 PSA never was screened, then he would surely not be found in time to possibly save his life.

[@elkintamayo107]

/hthgththththhgtghthgtt%

[@petercyr3508]

My $.02. Enlargement and eventual cancer of the prostate is caused by chronically elevated insulin levels. Insulin resistance. Insulin is an anabolic growth factor. Control insulin resistance with a very low carb diet.

[@mrofnocnon]

Right on!

[@schmingusss]

Meh, I've been doing low carb for years. Also fasting, intermittent fasting, vitamin d supplements every day. And I still got a crazy high psa.

[@chekyerego]

The situation for prescription of statins for cholesterol is similar. They do very little, yet they are over prescribed. It's a money driven industry.

[@garyssimo]

I lost both parents to cancer at age 73. Im 70 and take turkey tail and other medicinal mushrooms daily. Also lots of exercise, many supplementsand good foods. Well see.........I dont eat glutens, or factory farmed animals. We are not just what we eat but, what the creatures we eat, eat.

[@Magikflame]

Hit the nail on the head there! This is for another type of discussion but; if your partner ate a pan of them cheap noodles with little packet of flavour, then an hour or so later you drank their urine, it will taste very salty and slightly spicy. Wait another hour or so and taste your own and guess what - hardly any difference!! So yes I get 100 % we are what the creatures we eat are because our bodies are not just metabolisers of food, but also filters, things like heavy metals get stuck I beleive. I don't look to good waiting for my teeth, but since I got all the teeth with metal removed I feel so much better. I'm not 100% veggie but notice when I do eat meat I don't feel well for a good few days afterwards. It would be interesting to see if I was with someone who killed and cooked a free fresh animal if that lethargic and slowing down of the bowel happened. Great comment!!

[@orwellknew9112]

If you go back to 2011, you will find that a panel of doctors tasked with studying the efficacy of PSA testing, recommended that it be stopped. Why? Because they had many years of data for both pre- PSA testing and after PSA testing to analyze and they found no change in the mortality rate. What did that mean? It meant that PSA testing wasn’t helping. How could that be? It could only be explained by the realization that they were dealing with two kinds of situations. For some men the Cancer was never going to do more than grow slowly in their Prostate. Those men don’t need to be treated. They are going to die from something else. For other men, their Cancer has already spread outside the Prostate by the time the PSA test detects it. Removing or irradiating their Prostate is unnecessary because the Cancer is no longer contained in the Prostate. They are likely going to die from Prostate Cancer, because there is no treatment to stop it from continuing to grow. Hormone therapy to block testosterone can slow it down for a while, until the Cancer cells that aren’t affected by the hormone therapy multiply enough to be fatal. So, why treat anyone? That was a good question that didn’t go unnoticed by the industry . The many years of data showed that treatment based on PSA tests had no effect on mortality rates. Half the men needed no treatment because their Cancer was going to stay put and for the other half, it was going to be too late to do any good. Ouch. So, what happened? Those doctors who made the recommendation to stop PSA testing might have been the last of a dying breed that meant to keep their oath to do no harm. There was no point in cutting people up or in irradiating their prostates, plus everything around them. Those both can often cause unnecessary impotence and/or incontinence, as well as other medical problems. The industry fought back by trotting celebrities out to the Media where they swore they were cured. They just happened to fall into the lucky group whose Cancer was never going to metastasize, but no one told them that. They were like all the other men who thought the treatment cured them. The public couldn’t understand why the panel made that recommendation and there was enough backlash to give the win to the industry. The panel knew the public was being hoodwinked. That using anecdotal data was unscientific and unethical but could do nothing about it. The industry was going to keep making their money on doing useless PSA testing and on doing useless/harmful operations and radiation treatments. So, all those PSA tests and all those surgeries and radiation treatments since 2011 were unnecessary? Yes, that is the bottom line. So what is really needed? 1. They need a test that detects Prostate Cancer before it can leave the Prostate (metastasize). 2. They need a way to recognize those men in the group where their Cancer is never going to leave their Prostate. Are they working on that? I don’t follow what they’re doing in that regard, even though I am one of the unlucky group. My question is this “Will it make them more money? If they think not or they think it will make them less money, what would be their motive? Here is an article from 2011 re: the controversy www.nytimes.com/2011/10/07/health/07prostate.html The findings of the panel, confirmed a prior study in Sweden, where men who found out they had Prostate Cancer, were asked if they would do “watchful waiting” (ie. no treatment) to see if their group had a different life expectancy than the treated group. The study results were “no difference was found in death rate or life expectancy.” I found this information back in 2002 or around then, when I was researching because I had been diagnosed with Prostate Cancer. So, how is it that I am still alive, if I was in the unlucky group? Two tears after my radiation treatment, my PSA started to slowly climb back up from 1.0. That was the indicator that my Cancer had escaped my Prostate. At that point, I chose to do nothing. I had no more PSA tests and no hormone treatment. In 2014, I had an injury to my Piriformis muscle that would not respond to Physio. I decided to have my PSA checked because by this time even sitting down was too painful. My PSA came back at nearly 3,800. I knew it was time for the hormone blocker treatment to give me more time. At the same time, I started to look for alternative treatments, because I knew that hormone blocking was just going to delay the inevitable. Later, I found a study from Denmark that showed I had < 1% chance of surviving 5 years. I came across Rick Simpson and Phoenix Tears. That was the only thing that showed promise, so I followed his recommendations. My Oncologist noticed how unusually rapidly my PSA was dropping. I told him why that might be the case. All he said was “Whatever your doing, keep doing it. I believe that is why I am still alive 10 years after my odds of surviving just 5 years were less than 1%. If you have read this far, I hope you got something out of this you did not already know. May you life a long and happy life!

[@mrofnocnon]

Thank you.

[@singingdaffodil]

How are you doing? Did you originally do a gram a day 90 days? Are you still taking RSO? Ty

[@schmingusss]

I just read all that for some scam ad. What a World.

[@456zounds]

THANKS MUCH!!! (Dr. TCH)

[@didjesbydan]

This is eerily similar to the story of the faulty use of the PCR test and consequent shuttling of folks who have a false positive COVID diagnosis into the parasitic system.

[@gavinbrooke]

I am 50 and was just diagnosed with high grade prostate cancer with extracapsular extension and invasion of both neurovascular bundles. I was screened because I complained of a slightly overactive bladder. My PSA was only 4.9. MRI imaged tumor and biopsy confirmed gleason 8. This test in my case saved me from metastatic prostate cancer, so I guess I'm thankful for the screening.

[@bb3b644]

@gavinbrooke They've already went back screening. This study was proven wrong. I'm sure there has been over treatment for prostate cancer, but PSA has saved many lives! Glad you caught yours

[@Vinny.X]

Don't mean to be a downer but the fact is you have no idea at this point if your testing and treatment has saved you from metastatic cancer. Any doctor that tells you that is a liar.

[@4copyrightonly]

PSA was LOW !!!!!! HAHAHA 😅 THAT is his point !!!!!! The PSA test told you NOTHING !!!!! 4.9 !!!!!!!! Your SYMPTOMS and MRI saved your life !!!!!

[@mrofnocnon]

@@4copyrightonlyYep perfectly logical.

[@g.c.1956]

@@4copyrightonly 4.9 is not low for a 50 yo. 4.9 PSA is what prompted the MRI, that led to biopsy and proper treatment.

[@malectric]

I was never screened. After nearly 8 months of progressively more difficult urination I had to get checked. A blood test showed a PSA level around 230, biopsies came back all 12 samples positive for cancer and a bone scan showed several hotspots, one relating to the pins and needles that had developed in one leg. After some treatments I'm still alive and the pins and needles is gone but the cancer is regarded as incurable.

[@stephenpisani1730]

Hi I'm 65yrs young and for the last 14 month my psa level is 12.4. My Urologist sent me for an MRI scan and the results came back showing no cancer but an inflammation of the prostrate and enlarged prostrate too. My Urologist said i have prostatitis and this is the reason of my high PSA level. I suggested a biopsy but the Urologist said their is no target with the biopsy needle as the scan is showing nothing suspicious. Im a little nervous as both my Dad and Grandad both passed away with prostrate cancer. I even thought about going private and just removing the the prostrate even though no cancer is showing. Its just the worry about thinking of prostrate cancer... I had a psa blood test this morning 3 months after my last blood test. Results will take a week. Really hoping the psa blood level have come down🙏🙏

[@virgiliomartinezborja648]

Mientras la capacitacion de los medicos este ligada a las corporaciones farmaceuticas, va a ser dificil obtener una claridad sobre el tratamiento de cualquier patologia.

[@Pfsif]

I lost all faith in the medical profession during the $camdemic.

[@andrewmole745]

Yes - it was amazing how many failed to promote vaccines - some even gave fake exemptions. And don’t get me started on the promotion of debunked “cures” like Ivermectin.

[@Jblow-u2m]

Is that what it took? Why didn't you know better before hand?

[@gergemall]

Need to advocate and educate yourself on your own personal needs.

[@Krunch2020]

The two medical interventions that have saved the most lives are antibiotics and vaccines. If you get sick please stay home and go to bed. You can die there.

[@scottswin4236]

All those who push the vaccine should be put in prison.

[@brianharris4275]

Years ago a doctor said I might need a biopsy PSA NUMBERS . Run like crazy that was 20yrs ago . His patients looked like walking death . He was from India and needed money.

[@456zounds]

I DEFINITELY hear you!!! As it happens, I had a pretty good urologist "back when," but the last two have been horrible. They both wanted to do that (12 sample) biopsy...which I consider invasive and unnecessary. Not only that, but the usual "manual" prostate exam (with him) LAST TIME was long and uncomfortable. I am not lying...when I say that I was SERIOUSLY considering filing a police report...based on charges of sexual assault. BTW, the PSA is often over-valued. People I trust (in the medical community have advised that the PSA can be elevated due to many things (even having had sex the day before!). Mine (in my seventies) has been a very stable 7 for years.... and I anticipate NO problem. I might add that all urogenital functions are 100% (and enhanced by acupuncture and Chiro. (Dr. TCH)

[@rgisSavedbyG]

This could and should be a non-issue. All one needs to do is fast, fast&more fasting and cansior absolutely goes away PERIOD. Every time it's tried it works. Billions and billions of dollars involved keeping cancer in the state of an incurable disease powerful people's careers and science has been siop by us spiritual entity on the dark side that demands that people continue to die this horrible disease and it doesn't have to be plane period and simple

[@grandtvideo7750]

One would think that we RULE OUT all other causes of high PSA prior to needling - possible infection and possible spilling cancerous cells into the rest of the body - Why can't we focus on "non bacterial; BPH" for instance and treat that possibility for an extended period to see what happens?

[@michaelanthony386]

Exactly...or prostatitis

[@ricknowak4582]

Or especially, you must take Mr IA.P s m a pet scan. M r I tells you if you have any tumors in the prostate. And if you don't forget The biopsy. And if you do take the pet scan to see if the cancer spread outside. Then you treat . My opinion only.

[@donapodaca3729]

​@@ricknowak4582what is the cost of the pet scan vs needle biopsy and does medicare pay for the pet scan, even if needle biopsy was not chosen by the patient?

[@thubandra963]

In 2013 had a friend that had a PSA test done about the same time as I did. Mine was to 5.0 up from 4.2 a year earlier. My friend had waited way too long to find out he had prostate cancer and he died from it in early 2015. Mine was caught early due to the PSA test and I had radiation treatments in late 2013. For the last ten years my PSA has run around 0.12 and I'm now 75. My two cents.

[@afifahhamilton8843]

This researcher reminds me of Kary Mullis. Both did brilliant work, but the hangers on had far lower intellectual capacity, so ran off with poorly grasped ideas, and made claims that cannot be confirmed, and indeed produce dreadful collateral effects. When they try to warn the world, they are shut down or ignored or treated as though THEY are mad, when in truth it's just that people who saw a chance of a gravy train, are very very dedicated to money. The love of money is the root of all evil. Only honesty can save us. Thank you Dr Ablin for doing your best to reveal the dreadful problem that your own discovery has unleashed.

[@OldEnoughToBeYourFather]

my psa is always over 25. yes, twenty-five. I do not have prostate cancer. I have had 2 biopsies with 26 cores and no indications of cancer is found. However, my prostate is very large. My VA doctor told me it's over 400 grams after she saw it on ultrasound, so that is why my psa is so high. so, no, psa is not always a marker for cancer. I am in my late 70's. I am taking 5mg cialis daily for my bph.

[@michaelstewart4038]

I have a PSA of just over 13....recent test. No cancer....very enlarged prostate. I also do .5mg Cialis daily to mitigate urinary symptoms.

[@luluejpgmail]

@@michaelstewart4038 hello dear friend wat are your symptoms thanks, regards

[@LesterFougere]

I listened to all this debate, and I must say it was most refreshing. Both sides ,it was evident,they were passionate about their viewpoint,specifically for their patient's sake and mankind as a whole. Open debates as this, gives all listeners the ability to weigh the pros and con's in making often times ,life changing decisions. Thank you,I very much enjoyed your video,also because my PCA was somewhat high according to my doctor who has made an appointment to a surgeon, specialist. I will not so much be caught off guard. Thank you again,Lester

[@ronaldmilner8932]

I read Dr. Amblin's book- The Great Prostate Hoax and I feel that every man 40 and over should read his book.

[@marcespineli9887]

Good Job as the old saying says “there’s no sod pillow for this who don’t have conscience.

[@bramcoteelectrical1088]

😊bought the book thankyou for recommendation

[@ricknowak4582]

I saw him on youtube. Excellent

[@Mark-ir3df]

Thank you Dr.Richard Ablin for the information presented here on the PSA tests. Your information has been very helpful to me.Thank you again

[@ricknowak4582]

I saw him do an excellent youtube video. But there Were some very nasty disrespectful people in the audience. Falling asleep..

[@marcuskelly5768]

Excellent debate and argument. Medical science still has a away to go.

[@sakthivels846]

After an urine infection, i have approache an urologist he suggested an urine routine and culture. The result there found no bacteria so gone for scan and found enlarged prostate then suggested for psa blood test and the psa came 27.5. They suspected for prostate cancer and asked me for a mri scan. MRI result shows chances for prostate cancer. Then the urologist to confirm took biopsy. Thank god biopsy result came negative for cancer. It shows a high psa value neednot be straight away related to cancer.

[@gregmeyer4950]

Great job spa is obviously not reliable

[@janissquirell5072]

of course, psa increase indicates some injury of prostate, so the increase after ejaculation, in case of inflammation and even after driving a bycicle.

[@christopherdesimone206]

@@janissquirell5072 And that's a true fact.

[@sevenand7is14]

My MRI scan was all clear at 17 PSA. Opened me up I was riddled. MRI scans are not absolute and at 27 PSA u need a biopsy.

[@georgeherzog5929]

Thanks for Important information. I'm 75 and recently diagnosed benign enlarged prostate and a negative PSA - but offered surgery on the basis of a urinary flow test. (which I have declined and sought symptomatic urinary treatment via medications). Without an actual malignacy identified via biopsy, I'm only inclined to symptomatic treatment via daily oral medication. Obviously my clinic isn't properly informing me of what hazards surgery presents. I don't even have any specific description of which proceedure my occur. No MRI has been offered. I suspect it's considered prohibitively expensive for my insurance.

[@richardmanion5241]

i only wish i could add about a thousand likes because i have prostate cancer and this really opened my eyes so thank you so much for this god bless you

[@jordymaas565]

and ? seems there's not much the commedian has to offer you.

[@shaw99livecouk]

Went to Drs. He said..you need an operation..its going to cost 60k dollars. I said 60k..thats the price of a new car..Dr looks up and says..How did you know i was buying new car.

[@antonywooster6783]

It occurrs to me that the reduction in deaths from prostate cancer happened just about the time that many people stopped smoking and fewer young people started, It will be interesting to see what influence (if any) vaccination with mRNA vaccines has.

[@mrofnocnon]

Yes won't it. I'll be looking.

[@ricknowak4582]

I have prostate cancer and that's why I am Totally against so called hormone treatments. What Doctor fauci and the government did to us with that vaccine?I will never trust the pharmaceutical companies anymore.

[@markgokman]

Unless I missed some critical details, this long presentation offered no better alternative for prostate cancer screening. It is well knowns that an elevated total PSA by no means cancer, however, it does indicate that your prostate needs to be checked. There are also more detailed tests, for example total and free PSA, in which a % of free PSA provides a more accurate probability of cancer, and can be used to make a decision whether or not to MRI and biopsy. In my personal case, my PSA was above 4 several years ago. My urologist had me do a free PSA test, which showed that I had over 50% chance of cancer. I then followed up with MRI which also showed lesions, possibly malignant. Only then my urologist sent me for a MRI fusion biopsy. The result was that I had Gleason 6 cancer. Based on this, I was advised Active Surveillance. So, in my case having periodic PSA tests was very important and by no means waste of time/money, nor did it result in a wrong decision. If there is no alternative for a more accurate test, then eliminating PSA is absolutely wrong!

[@canisronis2753]

Im happy you are satisfied with your experience but your testimony confirms what this presentation is about. You did a bunch of testing with an end result of no treatment. An argument can be made that in the end the psychological stress is not worth it.

[@dojocho1894]

By the time a man gets to his 80's he will have some level of prostate cancer....that's a fact. Prior to the major outbreak of covid a Oxford virologist stated over 90% of the world's population will get covid...that doesn't mean your gonna die.

[@guitarhillbilly1482]

@@dojocho1894 Tell that to the families of the over 30,000 U.S. Men who die each year FROM Prostate Cancer of which many are under 70 years old. [ Prostate Cancer is cause of death ] The issue is separating the Aggressive Cancers from the Non Aggressive forms of Prostate Cancer. Any male over 40 who is is not doing Annual PSA testing is playing Russian Roulette with their life.

[@guitarhillbilly1482]

@@canisronis2753 Tell that to the families of the over 30,000 U.S. Men who die each year FROM Prostate Cancer of which many are under 70 years old. [ Prostate Cancer is cause of death ] The issue is separating the Aggressive Cancers from the Non Aggressive forms of Prostate Cancer. Any male over 40 who is is not doing Annual PSA testing is playing Russian Roulette with their life

[@davidtrindle6473]

@@canisronis2753 I wouldn’t want strangers deciding whether I have the emotional resilience to handle a positive psa test.

[@torstenheling3830]

Dr Albin really knows what he’s talking about.

[@cancerwarriors8480]

I have PC and have had for at least 12 years. I do not know what my psa is anymore as I quit testing for it. As far as I am concerned it is used to hoodwink men into doing additional testing that likely is not needed.

[@tonpham1097]

May I ask how old you are now?

[@uberkloden]

You full of it. I decided not to get PSA, and when I finally did I had Prostrate cancer over 90% of my prostrate, and it had escaped outside the prostrate. What bad drugs are you smoking?

[@garyssimo]

Fred...those bad drugs are actually antiinflammatory and can help prevent cancer.

[@KmmBev]

Something else to do would be... "address the root cause of the problem, by sharing with patients the important diet and lifestyle changes that are protective against cancer and other chronic diseases👍🏻

[@btudrus]

Especially abstaining from sugar and other plant poisons...

[@8675-__]

Exactly! You nailed it. Prostate issues are very common in Black men in America but in Africa its almost nonexistent??? It's dietary habits!

[@ipomoeaalba936]

Medical malpractice insurance. Prescribe a drug, kill a patient, the case is referred to legal. Tell someone to put down the fork, exercise, and they have a cardiac event and die, screwed.

[@T9RX3]

​@@8675-__same with Asian men in America

[@pellaxestorba4836]

​@@ipomoeaalba936 Stop eating all prefab. That is the first step of many. But that one step alone will transform your physical life completely, for the better. Spiritually, though, the first step is to be born again to the Spirit of God through his firstborn Son, Christ Jesus for eternal life in heavenly love.

[@RickyPang]

🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation: 00:00 🎥 Introduction and Background Information - Overview of the prostate health discussion, - Introduction to key speakers and their expertise, - Contextual background on the topic of prostate health. 04:12 🧠 Understanding Prostate Health - Explanation of prostate anatomy and its role in the male reproductive system, - Common prostate health issues and their symptoms, - Importance of regular screenings and early detection of prostate-related problems. 08:35 🔬 Debunking Prostate Health Myths - Addressing common misconceptions about prostate health, - Providing evidence-based information to counter prevalent myths, - Highlighting the significance of accurate information for better health decisions. Made with HARPA AI

[@TheYah00netstar]

*Anyway...a little-known information...a biopsy on its own...often...can lead to a tumor becoming malignant by contaminated instruments...already proven in many instances to not become totally sterilized...even after being sanitized using proper equipment..and procedures...Perhaps "liquid biopsy" could become a safer option from now on...*

[@ricknowak4582]

I agree a hundred percent. The worst decision of my life was having a biopsy on my prostate about four months ago.. I am terrified that them poke in those needles and has spread it.

[@TheCrusmon6]

My PSA was 4.5. Urologist took 6 needle biopsies which 4 were cancer 3+3 on Gleason. Has nerve sparing surgery and biopsy showed that cancer "legs" had grown out of the tumors and were about to breakout of the prostate gland. The PSA Test saved my life at 56 years old!

[@thomaslehmann5981]

Absolutely but you won't get many likes on your comment. Conspiracy theories are way more fun. The young doctor gunned him down but nobody in the comment section will listen to that part.

[@fatfrreddy1414]

@@thomaslehmann5981 My (UK)PSA has been between 10 and 18 for more than 10 years: I opted for "wait and see"..and a change of lifestyle,diet, etc..including, no caffeine or sugar,low salt and distilling my own water..After 7 ot so years, they prescribed finasteride, which brought PSA down to 6.5..i was pressured early on towards surgery..which I feared,so avoided..

[@jamesmeyer5366]

My brother in law would be dead right now if it weren't for PSA . Which detected cancer in his spine 2 yrs after his prostate cancer was eliminated with a prostatectomy. PSAisnumber one warning of metastatic prostate cancer. PLEASE DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS QUACK. I want to know just what so-called " HARM" does PSA screening do??

[@T9RX3]

​@@thomaslehmann5981not all cancers spread.....

[@Vinny.X]

3+3 is highly unlikely to kill you. Surgeons LOVE to tell you they saved your life just in time!!! I've worked my whole career with enough of them. Believe what you want.

[@lorendjones]

Great information. Based on my very limited experience the cure seems to be at least as bad, if not worse, than the potential disease.

[@ekklesiabible8188]

I am 96 years old and today want to go fishing and near fully functioned. Nineteen years ago had number 9 PSA and was given choice x-ray or surgery. Very weak and it was painful. I Chose 400 shots of painless X-ray. Destroyed control nerves but cured pain and PSA problems. Certain body control functions never came back but what seems to be a miracle that is the small price we pay to stay alive.

[@davidhall1407]

When my PSA went to 15.5 we knew something needed to be done. So far after a few years it flared again so treatment needed to be done. I'm still alive.

[@jackjackson7577]

Mine was 10 and one month later it is now 14

[@lawrencewright2816]

@@jackjackson7577 Mine went from 10 to 3 in a month with diet change, use of CBD, and topical application of 70% DMSO/30% Aloe vera gel on the perineum (after thorough washing, rinsing and disinfection with peroxide spray). Now I consume chlorine dioxide regularly today.

[@bigcconservativeguy2534]

@@lawrencewright2816 Nonsense, enjoy your placebo effect! DMSO and Aloe wont do squat for you prostate. DMSO is nothing more than a carrier that gets other compounds quickly through the dermal layer. That leaves Aloe alone and Aloe didnt impact your Prostate to any extent lol!

[@JohnSmith-mo4yh]

@@lawrencewright2816thank you. Is there a specific place or doctor you used for your information or was it more like general internet research?

[@lawrencewright2816]

@@JohnSmith-mo4yh Just general research. You can read about DMSO in the book by Dr Morton Walker.

[@doubleduh2532]

Thank you so much for your courage in divulging the truth of what is happening not only in USA but also here in Canada in regards to this matter.

[@RadicalforGod]

This Dr has integrity and carrying out his oath.

[@JohnCahillChapel]

It’s extremely concerning… I am supposed to agree or disagree with my urologist this month… agree on what? Why? When? And what are these experts going to find next and for how long will it be considered valid? I pray for them as much as for myself.

[@GerardVaughan-qe7ml]

Thanks so much Dr. Ablin. This vindicates my channel switching every time the "Prostate clinic" commercial came on the radio. I just knew it was mote "Covid" bs.

[@alecfoster4413]

Right?! God bless honest scientists and doctors!

[@eugeniustheodidactus8890]

We live in a world of total bullshit. Not saying that I won't die from prostate cancer one day, but I buy into none of this criminal, big pharma bullshit.

[@MrFrampo56]

There never was any Covid bs. Millions died. You conspiracy freaks love to deny everything. As bad as Holocaust Denyers Yes the PSA test is unreliable but it CAN lead to saving your life. This guy is a fucking nutcase. Go believe him , don’t get any tests. Good riddance. You won’t be missed. Pricks!

[@kellyherzberger]

Dr. Gerd Gerginzer is my hero, he put doctor Carson Stephen in his place by reminding him of his hypocritical oath, "do no harm!"

[@bigcconservativeguy2534]

Hypocritical oath? lololol...Of course you meant Hippocratic oath lol!

[@kingsta3174]

@@bigcconservativeguy2534 unfortunately these days, most medical students swear the hypocritical oath upon graduation.

[@MrFrampo56]

@@bigcconservativeguy2534 Yeah good one. Hippocrates would have been proud of you. Actually the oath is rarely taken by doctors these days.

[@cazzag8254]

PCR test, it’s inventor said it is being misused. It seems the same problematic issue, and I’m sure there will be another money spinning idea/invention/discovery that will be misused.

[@fillinman1]

Dear Dr. Ablin, I am humbled by your dedication and your love. Not to mention your intellect and courage. I'd like to add that In my humble opinion (IMHO) Yes It does appear Money is a motivator for these fiends which is not to say they are l in need of more. Clearly money is used to achieve their ultimate end . Which end is firstly to Destroy Western Culture (read Christendom, mostly) seen as impediment to the ultimate fulfillment of their prophesied destiny to become rulers of the world. How far fetched is that considering what we've experienced in last couple years?

[@paulpugh2480]

I wish you had said something about the prostate medicines they're most often prescribed for an enlarged prostate.

[@christopherdesimone206]

Paul Pugh, Don't bother they all come with bad side effects, just look it up and see for yourself. If your getting up and breaking your sleep, just eat 1and a 1/2 cucumbers 1/2 hour before you go to bed and you will sleep through the night and wake up restful. Remember not to drink anything 4 hours before going to sleep because it's liquid and will wake you, just the cucumbers which takes 6-8 hours to turn liquid plus two hours or so before you will pee, hence, a peaceful nights sleep. I reasoned it out and it works. When you find that it works you'll have the means to help others.

[@TheLastOilMan]

The medical industry really has started to score home goals at an alarming rate. Is their culling and scamming planned ?

[@1crazypj]

Probably, it's been known for at least 40 years that there are not enough people working to pay for the pensions of those retiring after years of Government mismanagement spending pension funds. Probably why Covid affected older people and anyone already sick so badly. Wouldn't surprise me if CIA was involved 🤣

[@fedupbin]

My husband has been getting a few UTIS each year for the last two years. It leads to kidney infections. He has had a few cystoscopies and biopsy done on hs bladder. They say he has an enlarged prostate. He only gets up once a night, aged 62. He has had the urine flow test, which was normal. so now the consultant will be ringing him with the next steps.

[@JJ-vp3bd]

any updates

[@fedupbin]

Hi Today the consultant rang and said all was ok with the flow test so he just needs another cystoscopy next June. But to me there isn't getting to the root of why he keeps gettings UTIS. If it's a bacterial thing, that needs sorting. I find the UK terrible for treating proper causes, they just go straight to cystoscopies. @@JJ-vp3bd

[@garymitchell6056]

All a PSA is - is a "check engine light" - it tells you to pay attention to your prostate. Sure it could be BPH or Prostatitis - but it could also be prostate cancer. I didnt have a psa until I was 67 - and exhibiting major negative symptoms - when I did have it - my psa was 99 - and I had bone metastases! Dont be put off - the earlier you get the prostate cancer diagnosed - the better off you will be!!

[@gazsibb]

What a great, well informed, scientific discussion. Thank you all.

[@reedreamer9518]

So the purpose of the PSA test is to generate revenue for doctors and the medical industry at the cost of patient suffering?

[@loudvoice5903]

SO FAR SO GOOD, SINCE THE LAST 10 YEARS, I HAD LEARNED THAT EVERYTHING IS A LIE, ESPECIALLY IN A BIG-PHARMA-MEDICAL FIELD..IT IS A VERY ENDLESS LIST AND I THINK, WOULD BE MUCH SHORTER LIST TO STUDY WHAT IS NOT A LIE..

[@garyssimo]

This is the man who discovered the psa test according to three sources I just checked. He should know a bit about it?

[@sekito2125]

He did mention it in the presentation

[@GPJACKSOGA]

I've had a high PSA twice and both times they showed; polyps and cancer respectively.

[@JavierBonillaC]

Are you saying that the test correctly showed that you had cancer?

[@4copyrightonly]

Wonderful anecdotal study.......publish it !!!!!!!!

[@GPJACKSOGA]

yes@@JavierBonillaC

[@michaeldamato9466]

Too many people worry about this crap, you'll know when something is very wrong, it's usually when it's too late to do anything about it..... but it's much better than the alternative.

[@christopherdesimone206]

Indeed, plus life is worth loosing since only in life can you suffer in so many ways.

[@michaeldamato9466]

@@christopherdesimone206 Exactly......

[@michaelmelamed9103]

There is no alternative to death

[@RayTutajjr]

I'm confused: A PSA test is done simply by a blood draw, right? How can a blood draw be harmful? Please explain.

[@ag-risikokompetenz1905]

Hi Ray! Please see timestamp 24:33 to learn about harmful overdiagnosis and overtreatment.

[@rosscaliguri5164]

Not only the P.S.A.! Specifically It is the Biopsy post P.S.A. that exacerbates the morbidities in and around Prostate Cancer Testing.

[@cbcsucks2205]

100% I would never allow anyone to biopsy my prostate. It can turn the turtle into the hare in 1/3 of cases.

[@michaelanthony386]

💯💯💯

[@robertthompson5501]

Similar to Covid vaccine mandate?🔥

[@perugino25]

no doubt as anything else government, pharma, and food industry!!!! do always the contrary "recommend" or "mandate" by these clowns

[@bird401]

No. Not at all similar.

[@sassy6292]

Exactly! Pharma at it again.

[@markmiller8486]

Totally different.

[@michaelholford8852]

At 55yrs my psa was high I had no major symptoms yet had cancer in my prostate 20 samples all cancer was operated on 10 months later now at 66yrs still alive and glad I got tested even though I had to have 11 surgeries and now have a bag to piss into no cancer and glad I got check early.

[@dimitrioskazis7989]

Your presentation was very useful and thoroughly analysed. I would like to ask you if you could inform me if an 80 year old person with a BPH rather large, and a PSA that varies over the past ten years between 7 and 13, is liable to get cancer even if the biopsy test was negative and the Free PSA value is still in the safe range.? Does the sign of small drop of blood in the urine present cause for concern or could it be due to the presence of stones in the bladder ? Thank you in advance. What further treatments are envisaged in the near future ?

[@Cyrusmagi]

Psa test is useless so you shouldcignore any psa level

[@B50Stevie]

Do not ignore any blood found in the urine, please go and see a doctor straight away and have a blood test, I had the same happen to me and in my case it was found to be cancer, it may be nothing but get it checked out. I was treated for cancer and I am still here.

[@theSilvioRoesler]

Such great panel, thank you a million for making it available to the public. People need to be educated on this topic to make an informed decision.

[@thepianoman1010]

So, at around 26 mins it is suggested that treatment for prostate cancer is initiated purely on the result of a PSA blood test. I find this hard to believe and would expect there to be other forms of confirmatory testing before treatment for prostate cancer is started.

[@reggtop]

MRI

[@sunshineishere4566]

What is mins ?

[@Jonnie-Falafel]

​@@sunshineishere4566 minutes

[@tonyzayner4313]

PSMA PET scan...is best after a cancer positive biopsy

[@donapodaca3729]

​@@tonyzayner4313why wouldn't you do the PET scan first, instead of poking holes (with biopsy) in what might be a fully encapsulated cancer growth in the gland?

[@bigdaddy5948]

Im 70 now. When I was 62. My PSA was high. Biopsy showed gleason 6 cancer. This year psa elevated to 12. New biopsy showed a Gleason 7. 4+3. Now considering options.

[@alliaj1]

today? any news?

[@guitarhillbilly1482]

Quote: "In the United States in 2019- 224,733 new prostate cancers were reported. 31,636 males died from prostate cancer. Males had much higher rates of getting prostate cancer than dying from prostate cancer."

[@binra3788]

I bet no one dies from cancer treatments - ever! The mind and its systems are rigged. Free your mind to know your purpose - that is - open awareness of masking defences that run in your name as automatic thinking, perception & response.

[@bme7491]

My PSA has been rising slowly over the past 7 years. I first had just a biopsy, negative. The next time I had an MRI followed by another biopsy....negative. Now my urologist is suggesting another MRI and if necessary, another biopsy. My PSA is 8 and I have no symptoms.

[@T9RX3]

How old are you?

[@bme7491]

@@T9RX3 Just turned 70

[@johnnybgood3909]

Forget the doctors and enjoy life old timer

[@lw2462]

This was a very eye opening speech,thank you Dr.

[@johnnybgood3909]

Lol @ eye opening

[@richarddpetersen169]

Prostate cancer can kill you. All I can say is be proactive, get examined by a Urologist and follow his advice. I had prostate cancer, robotic surgery and am fine. A couple of friends didnt pay attention to things and died of prostate cancer which spread.

[@grahamleigh8398]

There seems to be a helluva lot of political cancers out there. Dr. you are a funny man and I hope nobody fell asleep. Dry humor too. Very informative. Salute.

[@schmingusss]

I recently had a physical and psa test done. PSA came in really high, 15 ng/ml. Should I just ignore it?

[@tonyalmeidabiz]

Thank you so much for your Honest review and opinions!!! God bless!

[@NedFerguson]

At 62 I was just referred to a urologist b/c of a PSA in the low 6.x. I explained to the urologist right off the bat that I am a contrarian and non-interventionist and told him that I had read Dr. Ablin's book in 2018 in preparation for this day, since I knew it was coming eventually. He was sympathetic to this view and said he was more concerned about 1) PSA velocity than the number itself and 2) the ratio of PSA to prostate size. He agrees that biopsy is too invasive and said if my number still looks concerning after checking again he might recommend an MRI, which will tell him a lot and is non-invasive. I am inclined to allow it for that reason. I told him that I am not one of the worried well and I don't lose sleep over these things. My life is in God's hands. Otherwise I am asymptomatic. Digital exam is good with no palpable nodules. Any thoughts on the MRI? I didn't realize this was a thing now.

[@jamescalifornia2964]

MRI should be done before any biopsy 👌

[@rabokarabekian409]

Lab tests are not health outcomes. Nearly all doctors are penalized for not obeying their insurance companies, and they want the highest predictable costs.

[@williamdenton6317]

I had an elevated PSA for 20 years. During that period it varied between 6 to 17.6. My PSA free to Total score was always over 30 which means I had a 1in 8 probability of getting cancer of the prostate. Pretty good odds, considering that two biopsys were negative. Prostatitis was the diagnosis. Finally after 20 years I had an MRI done on my prostate because my psa jumped from 9 to 11 and the doctor said that was a red flag. Red flag my ass. The MRI analysis was a score of 2, which means an enlarged prostate with inflamation. So the doctor ordered up Finasteride which is a drug that blocks the inflammatory hormone in the prostate from working. My peeing improved 100% and my psa went from 11 to 4.8. You guessed right. The Finasteride went to work and shrunk my prostate. 20 years putting up with this PSA bullshit worrying about cancer, should I have another biopsy. How many thousands of other men are there out there puttiing up with prostatitis when there is a drug that may work wonders for you if the doctor has the brains to prescribe it for you.