Finally - Intel Battlemage Full Specs & Release Date

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[@C_P_B_C]

I bought the A770 16gb and I have not regretted it on all but one thing. I can't play VR. But that is a matter of time before a VR headset releases that includes this line of GPU.

[@brvndxnl]

Intel releasing bad CPUs but being a legitimate competitor in the GPU space is quite the timeline.

[@rakeshmalik5385]

On top of also being in such bad shape that it just got delisted from the Dow

[@Keanu-Y]

Fall from the height, recover in other hills

[@sierraecho884]

Their drivers will stick suck, thei won´t be a huge competitor for a while. It will be just like back in the day when AMD GPU´s sucked soo much due to their drivers.

[@godnamedtay]

It’s literally the opposite of what u said lol, Foh.

[@godnamedtay]

@@rakeshmalik5385NVIDIA kicked them off & took their spot. Considering they’re the most valuable company in the world…def a little different from what u said, but ok.

[@estacaotech]

At this point gamers just want cheap options since nvidia went crazy and AMD is following the same path, if people get 4070 level of performance and 16GB for 300 or a bit more for 350 is definitely a good deal, we need more options and competition.

[@andyastrand]

@@estacaotech AMD has specifically said with the next gen GPUs it is not chasing the high or ultra end, specifically targeting mid tier or lower, and most are expecting them to be trying to target value to grow market share..l

[@brvndxnl]

How is AMD following the same path? They stated they will stop trying to compete in the high-end and start to put more effort into the midrange market.

[@derlynhernandez2727]

But I would be upset if they stopped production and development.

[@sierraecho884]

@@brvndxnl They too raised their prices.

[@atomanni-k5m]

even 4060ti performance for 300 would be better than now

[@NocturnEternal]

Nvidia burned me badly when the 40 Series. They shut out my favorite GPU manufacturer (EVGA), they underpowered the 4060, and they overpriced the 40 Series. Ada Lovelace herself (if she were still with us) would have taken the whole thing as a slap to the face. Coming to Intel was a radical change, but I have no regrets.

[@OrenSaidAThing]

Yeah coming from 30 series which gave us a 2080 super equivalent at 400 dollars (3060ti which is also my current gpu!) to seeing 40 series gain massive leaps in efficiency but having terrible price for performance per tier of card compared to last gen. 4070 should've been what the 4070 super is but keep its current msrp and 4080 should've been priced at what the 4070tisuper is.

[@NocturnEternal]

@@OrenSaidAThing My last Nvidia card was the RTX 3060 12GB. Had Nvidia kept their prices down along with keeping 12GB 192-bit lane on the 4060, I might have taken the plunge. But it didn’t go that way for me.

[@TabalugaDragon]

and I hate them for what they did to laptops. Basically making laptop GPUs a scam. In 3000 series, when they started cutting them down\giving wrong naming at least mid-range was ok, but in 4000 series they completely removed proper mid-range and only put either low end or high end in laptops. No desktop 4070 or 4060 ti 16GB, only 4050, 4060, 4060 ti 8GB, 4070 ti and 4080 with the last 3 being named 1 tier above desktop versions.

[@levlevinski596]

@@TabalugaDragon Nvidia's price performance perversion in laptops 🤣

[@NocturnEternal]

Bottom line is that Nvidia sucks right now.

[@GraveUypo]

i want the death of $500+ gpus. we need to go back to reasonable sizes and prices.

[@allxtend4005]

good luck with that if people continue to buy Nvidias Crap cards Called Low end cards like the RTX 4060/4070 then Nvidia will give a FK about Reducing the prices and as a Market Gigant who own like 80% of the market they tell how high the price will be.

[@stefannita3439]

I'm not defending nvidia or AMD here -- their price hikes are way higher than inflation. But inflation alone is a great argument as to why "the death of $500+ GPUs" is absolutely delusional, lol. GTX 1080 and 1080 Ti MSRPs adjusted for inflation are $800 and $900, respectively. Last time an 80 class card was $499 is the GTX 680 and adjusted for inflation that's $680... The problem is the absolutely unjustified price hike from 3080 to 4080, as well as the fact that the 60 and 70 class cards are terrible value for money, when that used to be their entire role in the lineup. Now their role is to upsell you to the 80+ cards.

[@thewhiteknight9923]

@@GraveUypo 1000 bucks is actually reasonable for a 4090 or equivalent. A 4080 super for 800 sounds reasonable too but a 4090 for 500 or less is completely delusional

[@WOTM8]

@@thewhiteknight9923 nope if you know the cost of production per card for the cards you mentioned.

[@shoryuag]

I disagree. $500 flagships are fine. The GTX 580 was the last reasonably priced flagship (not a specialty card like the GTX 590). Titan(modern -90 included)-based Tis don't count; the Titan is the flagship, and they're priced to suit.

[@JellowGelo]

If Battlemage manages to have the same or even better of codec as NVIDIA, has 16gb vram, and is like around $300-$400? I don’t mind grabbing one

[@jcdenton7914]

@@JellowGelo they already do good with codecs

[@zues121510]

Intel already has a pretty solid foundation for that! Their quicksync has been really good on their iGPUs for years and many programs support it :D Last time I checked a few years ago, the iGPUs in intel CPUs supported more codecs than the best Nvidia GPU at the time and the render performance wasn't that far off! Many people choose the cheapest intel arc GPU to put into their Plex server because of how good the transcoding on it is and it only takes up a single slot and costs very little. I got a plex server with laptop iris xe iGPU built in and it can support up to 10 4k->1080p transcodes in real time and I can probably increase this with a ram disk for transcoding. I have full faith that the next battlemage series will be great for transcoding since intel transcoding performance has been good way before they even released their arc cards.

[@jcdenton7914]

@zues121510 I wonder if Intel will make something like the Super Resolution and RTX HDR. Those are both buggy on Nvidia just deciding to not work needing a reboot but they are some nice features.

[@zues121510]

@@jcdenton7914 not sure, intel has been focusing more on making their stuff stable for the last few years rather than adding new features but maybe with their drivers maturing they might just push an update for something like that after battle mage comes out. It's too early to tell right now. Does AMD even have this?

[@jcdenton7914]

@@zues121510 I expect AMD to be years behind Intel for those features considering how far behind they are on encoders and decoders. Intel Arc ended up getting support for running LLMs and StableDiffusion faster then AMD.

[@KevPez-IS]

My 3080 broke, and I needed a GPU for video editing and my online class. Went for an A770. Does not compete with higher res stuff but WOW, for 300 bucks and less, amazing stuff. Def excited to see Battlemage.

[@sierraecho884]

Remains to be seen if their dirvers will even work properly especially for productive work.

[@KevPez-IS]

@ my arc so far has been great in Premiere. I have weird issues updating drivers, but once stable when updated

[@sierraecho884]

@@KevPez-IS Good for you. I use multiple CAD software and simulation softwares, I doubt I would be happy with the card. I am sure after a while itcould be fine but honestly I rather pay more and get the works out of the box product right away. That being said pricing from NVIDEA is nuts.

[@PixelatedWolf2077]

Alchemist had architecture limitations as to why despite its die size, it struggles in games against it's competitors that have smaller die sizes. Currently, XE2 found on Lunar Lake is very competitive with HX 370​@@sierraecho884

[@megapet777]

@@KevPez-IS is there any game or app that doesnt work with it?

[@omnymisa]

Intel will have great chance to grab some GPU market if they do deliver, I hope the GPUs are smooth!

[@igm1571]

Drivers is still a issues tho, intel need 2 more generations to make sure it stable(just like how AMD is struggle at the past)

[@faranaka9294]

That is a badass name for a GPU

[@edt4062]

for real

[@oratank]

other type of mage sound better than battlemage

[@Wkaelx]

"Oh my using an Rdnaaaaa" "Nahhh my RTX 9009999 super duper is betterrrr" "Amateurs, *enters the BattleMage* OOOH OOOH"

[@user-HAYMONjustregyoutuber99]

5:03 im surprised by intel. Imagine a card with 20GB vram for $350 and 4070 performence ☠️☠️ as a 3D modeling and animation guy i see this as ABSLOUTE WIN

[@darthwiizius]

If Intel release new cards at this performance per Quid then I'm going Intel to replace my aging 2060S. It would be an absolute no brainer.

[@David-Kynaston]

Congrats on sticking with your 2060S for so long. More of us need to follow suit.

[@jimdob6528]

@@David-KynastonI mean 1080p med-high settings a 2060 is still a good card. No need to chase the frame rates unnecessarily. I only build/upgrade every 4-6 years. I am literally building a 200usd pc for my friend with several used parts and one of them is a 2060 I had laying around from an E Waste bin. I love older parts.

[@darthwiizius]

@@David-Kynaston Thanks, I don't see the point in spending silly money to game.

[@darthwiizius]

@@jimdob6528 On my 2060S I was playing RE4 Remake yesterday, high settings with high ray tracing. To make it smooth locked at 1080P60 I just had to set the texture budget to 1GB, that said I didn't try it on 2GB I just turned it down under advice from the settings section. There's only 3 or 4 games you can't play at high at 1080P on a 2060S, only one or two I'm even slightly interested in. BTW I love e-waste parts, my sound card is ancient and came out of my brother's scrap bin 5 years ago. Sounds great through my hifi, more muscular and less clinical than modern cards, and the legacy driver and software is still on Soundblaster's website.

[@tkx842]

im in the exact same situation. bought my 2060s a bit after it came out, now waiting for battlemage. if the price is right ill go intel

[@4evahodlingdoge226]

$300 rtx 4070 equivalent is wild, i'll believe it when i see it, if that's the case 1080p will be phased out in a few years.

[@sturmgewehr449]

amd's equivalent will be 399 and will also beat the 4070. would you pay 100 more for better drivers?

[@Somekidthatsontheinternet]

@@sturmgewehr449if you’re not being sarcastic I would

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

Not if games stay unoptimized

[@Thrainite]

@@flamestoyershadowkill Depends if you play AAA or not. The last triple A I played was Space Marine II which works fine on a 3060ti. Other than that, I've not played triple A in years. Almost a decade. They've no story to tell and microtransactions killed the vibe for me.

[@LavekGaming]

Phased out? Who even uses 1080 anymore. 😴

[@genericsidecharacter8915]

Well, 2024 just ended and still no word about the B770 and B970

[@BlindingWulf]

At least there’s some competition against NVIDIA… those prices are insane

[@rwait1287]

😆😆😆😆😆😆😆

[@K.R.98]

I’m interested in RX8800XT. RTX4080 performance for 500bucks would be great

[@hippytree69]

@@BlindingWulf the thing is nvidia doesnt see amd or intel as competition so amd and intel having gpus isnt gonna make nvidia drop prices and dont forget nvidia is controlling the stock of gpus in a way to keep prices high.

[@darealrulezbreaker9493]

@@hippytree69 its not up to nvidia to decide who is competition and who isnt. if other companies start offering similar performance for substantially lower prices we have great options for gpus to buy.

[@_nom_]

@@BlindingWulf Not in the VR space. I with gaymers would just go AMD or Intel.

[@galacticmarshin4510]

Intel just needs to break even on the cards and grab as much market share as possible

[@gs-pd5ox]

I think vram should be intel’s calling card. That seems to be everyone’s current gripe. Battlemage should’ve targeted 4070/4070s/4070ti with 16/20/24 gb of vram. Vram is not the part that balloons price out of control. I don’t know how much difference in gaming vram actually makes but if that’s what people say they want then be the company that gives it to them. $1100 5080 16gb or $449 b970 24gb

[@26Guenter]

@@gs-pd5ox No point in having that much VRAM if it's not going to use it. Also the bigger the memory bus the more power the GPU consumes. Even if the top card is around the 4070 Ti, 16GB is more than enough for that performance. The problem is when you have a card like the 4070/Ti that is a capable 1440p card but runs out of VRAM once you start turning on all of the Nvidia features.

[@gs-pd5ox]

@@26Guenter power draw isn't the gripe. Sure an extra 8 gb of vram at the expense of an extra 100 watts is absurd. But 20 - 24gb at 280 watts or just under? I doubt many would complain. I'm sure battlemage will have upgraded features like raytracing and frame gen that could use it. I just get irritated when something can be done and doesn't. If comments are to be taken as the gospel people want a 4070 ti performing card with 20 gb of vram or more for under $500. If intel could make that happen, they should make that happen. Practicality and necessity be damned. I have a 770 and I have no complaints with it being a first gen card. It didn't sell well for what it is. The best way to get sales is to make what the consumer wants. If people will give you money for something extra that you can logically explain is unnecessary, it isn't really in your best interest to still not do it. Let NVIDIA make overpriced cards. Let AMD make value cards. Intel should make cards with the features that the consumer says they want. And they say they want more vram.

[@gs-pd5ox]

Again, a person is smart. People are dumb. Unnecessary? Probably. I can’t prognosticate that a 970 with 24 gb would sell out every shipment. It might not. But if the general consensus is a willingness to spend up to $500 for 20-24gb regardless of necessity and Intel could possibly pad their margins, it makes zero sense not to do it. $300 cost for a 16 gb card selling at lets say $380 or $350 cost for an unnecessary 24 gb model selling at $499? The math says to do that. Intel needs a niche. Nvidia - $1000 16gb card. Amd - $600 16 gb card. Intel - $500 24 gb card.

[@TabalugaDragon]

@@26Guenter texture settings affect visuals the most, it also only needs vram and doesn't need raw GPU performance.

[@thewhiteknight9923]

Gpu purchases says otherwise. Vram is not the most important thing to the average consumer. Don't let tech media give you the impression of the average consumer. Most barely do any research let alone dive into specifics like vram consumption in 2024 games. Even then 12gb vram is fine for a mainstream card

[@echeese63]

I have pretty high expectations for battlemage, look at how far the Alchemist cards have come. The trajectory is looking good.

[@johnr3514]

if it does what you are saying, its a win simply because it pushes nvidia to reduce their stupid prices

[@enzoGooGle2050]

that manner to starts videos never gets old

[@WiLLiW_oficial]

Ricardo Milos feels 🕺

[@andrewlongoria5752]

My mans always on Coke lol

[@joshhardin666]

alchemist was totally legitimate and competes with the low end nvidia and mid range amd stuff (3060ish performance on the a770) - WHILE ALSO using WAAAAY less power AND including av1 encoders (which is amazing for some scenarios, and especially on such vastly less expensive gpus). I'm pretty excited to see where battlemage lands... if it's anywhere in the ballpark of 5060, it'll be a WIN.

[@jimdob6528]

I just don’t get why people like nvidia for low end to low mid gpus… you cannot even use their upscaling or ray tracing without SERIUS issues so why are they so popular? AMD or intel slaughters low-mid grade cards without any actual competition.

[@joshhardin666]

@@jimdob6528 honestly, I wish that nvidia would stop making low end gpus entirely and go with a good-better-best approach to their skus (and keep around 1 generation previous a bit longer for the low end). that way they have way less engineering work to do, way less support work, way fewer boxes to print, etc. etc. and can put all that driver and support into providing way more robust cards as well as putting more engineering into the next generation solution to make it that much better. we don't need 4060's and 4050's, we need a 4070, a 4080, and a 4090, as well as a 3070, 3080, and 3090.

[@atavusable]

They also added gpu virtulization free of charge if you had the coorect bios. This gave the ability to share a gpu between multiple VM

[@qweasdzxc]

@@jimdob6528 what serious issues are you talking about? i dont have any issues with upscaling.

[@slimjimjimslim5923]

Didn't Pat Gelsinger said the discrete Intel GPU is ramping down? Intel is focusing more on integrated graphics and server gpus for Ai. Battlemage may be the last we will see from Intel for the next 3 years

[@pchick]

@@slimjimjimslim5923 next gen is probably cancelled at this point lol but if battlemage sells better than they expected hopefully they will start working on the gen after :'(

[@Goatcookie]

@@slimjimjimslim5923 yeah that’s probably because Arc gpu sales were poor but if battlemage sales is good then they definitely continue

[@Flomockia]

​@@pchickcelestial was already announced that it's being developed battlemage definitely wasn't canceled

[@pchick]

@@Flomockia celestial isn't cancelled but they're developing that with an integrated graphics focus i've heard. the dedicated stuff is closely related to their integrated work. battlemage didn't achieve what they wanted, but since they had already put so much money into developing it they have to sell something to recoup costs. at least that's how i understand it

[@atavusable]

They may plan to create a killer APU?

[@rakeshmalik5385]

No laptop Battlemage? That's not good for Intel, since its CPUs aren't cutting the mustard. That just means that the AMD Halo line will steamroll the Intel laptop lineup. I think things will be a lot more interesting when we start seeing the stuff MediaTek and nVidia cook up together, and the next generation of the Snapdragon X Elite. And if the rumors about Sound Wave turn out to be accurate, Zen5 might be the last x86.

[@kurtwinter4422]

All the OEMs will continue to sell Intel/Nvidia laptops.

[@atomanni-k5m]

the battlemages already exist as igpus.. and they are really good

[@TabalugaDragon]

to be fair, they aren't energy efficient enough for laptops, plus they don't have undervolting on their mobile GPUs, unlike Nvidia. I wouldn't be surprised if they have like half the performance per watt compared to Blackwell.

[@rakeshmalik5385]

@@atomanni-k5m I heard that shortly after posting this. I'm skeptical about the Battlemage iGPU being able to compete with the upcoming AMD Halo line, but that of course could fall short of expectation as well. I do believe that we're going to see the end of the discrete laptop GPU soon for gaming. In the workstation market there's still not really any option but to use nVidia GPUs because of software support. I'm hoping that will change too.

[@majikclown9236]

i manage laptops for work. they are so much slower than a desktop version of anything. you could go back a gen on everything and get a desktop and still be faster than that laptop

[@jaakanshorter]

I've had an A750 since March and mainly use it for blender on Ubuntu. It was $200 new when no one really wanted it. In my case drivers are solid. If the price is right for the B970 I'll build another computer around it like it did for the A750.

[@azntactical4884]

Im have the a770 in my gaming pc. I actually like it and will be replacing it with the battlemage when it comes out. The a770 will be going into my video editing rig (14900k igpu).

[@EasyNo]

I built my first computer around the A770 and have already started a second build in anticipation for the Battlemage

[@jeffthompson1869]

A.I. and Video Production software most often uses CUDA - and that is NVIDIA. AMD and INTEL going after budget gamers, while OK, isn't the money maker that will keep them in business. Getting OpenGL in a lot of A.I. and Video production products would amplify the value. Right now - CUDA is king.

[@defnotatroll]

Budget cards dominate the best sellers list, so intel know what they are doing. Cuda and all that is niche compared to people who just want a card that plays games

[@kal.asther]

Only AI. Intel has Quicksync for video editing.

[@echeese63]

AI is a market that neither AMD nor Intel have even tried to compete in, and is therefore irrelevant to the discussion.

[@Retro-Iron11]

Stepping stones. Intel will develop this technology which is editing superiority and eventually incorporate the tech into cpu packages making add in cards a thing of the past and creating a nvid-who? They are already up to mid current gen nvidia on their 2nd gen attempt. Go back to arc driver first release to now and then compare first nvidia, even 10 series to now. Intel absolutely smash nvidia in development and technology improvements using just one gen silicone over nvidia's 3 gens. Only those subscribing to fomo are buying nvidia "ai" or anything "ai".

[@richardmartin9263]

I agree with @defnotatroll, both Intel and AMD are targeting the mass market for GPUs, Halo products like the 5090 and 5080 probably make up to 5% of all sales together, from a cost per unit perspective Nvidia will keep pushing prices up because they are focusing away from "The casual gamer" to AI compute where they get way, way more money for a similar product.

[@GrundiesTech]

I would like to see Intel produce more then the few generations they have planned. Competition is very much needed in the GPU space

[@PlayStationReal]

our timeline at some point got so fucked intel managed to enter the GPU market, become actually a competitor and then literally collapsing its like over a decade old CPU empire, causing them to fully rely on their GPUs... in the span of 2 years

[@w1se_w0lf]

Tell anything you want about Nvidia, but the fact is they are pushing forward despite almost total domination in the market. Meanwhile Intel got complacent and give AMD the chance to come back. Although Nvidia rised prices to ridicolous levels, but you know competition followed their price hike despite always being inferior.

[@BrianSkinny-n5f]

I certainly hope Intel isn’t pulling our leg for this, Intel becoming a competition to the green and red team would be a refreshing option! May even consider doing an Intel build? Who knows. Next pc for myself is going to be fun with the options I have but I don’t intend to upgrade for another 4 years. 6900xt has been very good to me I gotta admit. 3.5 years old just about.

[@AffectionateLocomotive]

We got the real RGB setup.

[@MZ-sh1sr]

If the video is correct, the most powerful new Intel GPU lands somewhere between a 6800 XT and a 6900 XT. And since the PS5 Pro GPU is still less powerful than the 6800 non-XT, I reckon you've got at least another 3.5 years of life left with that monster of a GPU :P

[@ItsDainsleifDuh]

I'll pick their 13th gen i7 and probably pair it with their B980 by next year, or maybe with the same processor but with top of the line Celestial GPU

[@AffectionateLocomotive]

@@ItsDainsleifDuh 🤨🤨🤨🤨 13th gen? m?

[@badopcode]

I have a Intel Arc 770 and I was seriously impressed. The whole Intel seeming to move backwards is actually them side stepping into REAL APU's. Think things are going in the direction where APU's and motherboard absorbs the GPU. Like it did in the 90's when motherboards (south bridge) absorbed sound cards. I'm suspecting a near future where GDDR is on a stick on the motherboard and this functionality is added to the northbridge. What can be done via PCIe has hit a brick wall. More importantly this functionality would lend itself to the small form factors.

[@Atheos22]

Not going with 352 bit width is a mistake, that makes such a huge difference in performance. Look at the 1080 Ti vs the 1080 for proof of that.

[@VenomKen]

As long as they can get the heat under control. The A580 I tested was a furnace. Hopefully they can get the idle temps reasonable.

[@406Steven]

As the owner of 4 Arc cards, I will get the top end one then probably end up with others for various projects, especially if low profile cards eventually come out.

[@kennethwilson8236]

looking to upgrade to a 265k and a battlemage B770 from a 12600k and a A770. Be interesting if they actually come out with a B970. I expect 12gb vram on the B750 and 16gb of vram on the B770. The A770 is a great card. Would like to see another Intel Limited edition version that was great design. Also would be nice to keep it to a 2 slot card

[@insertnamehere4419]

"justs behind" a 4070? The B770 is almost 30% slower accord9ing to these charts. How is 21.5 "just behind" 29.1?

[@00Beowulf00]

Does it really matter if it is when it costs 50% less making it far more affordable for the masses with still a decent performance?

[@goranzakrisson4010]

@@insertnamehere4419 theoretical tflops cant be compared between different architectures.

[@sc9433]

It has lower tflops, but its Instructions per Clock has been improved by 1.25x

[@insertnamehere4419]

@@sc9433 oh. Gee. So, 4060ti at best? Yay I guess.

[@sc9433]

@@insertnamehere4419 for 299 usd. Its pretty good deal with 16gb ram.

[@jamesdavenport-rice5654]

Been wanting to build something for my younger sister. So hoping the price to performance is good.

[@vasudevmenon2496]

My jaws were dropped that Intel was launching Alchemist and then got put back myself once day one reviews were out. It's performs very good for the price segment

[@nosajmartinez6175]

Had a couple versions of the A770 and performance was really good when it worked. However, stability caused major issues. The drivers just aren't in a good place yet.

[@matgaw123]

What do you mean I been using a770 with AMD CPU and Intel GPU and last problem with drivers was 3 moths ago And usually update fixes everything

[@matgaw123]

Popular games work perfectly

[@nosajmartinez6175]

Spiderman would constantly crash on me

[@nosajmartinez6175]

@matgaw123 if it works for your uses, then that is awesome

[@matgaw123]

@@nosajmartinez6175 oh

[@MadeOfEarth1]

I don't believe B770 will be $300. No way bro.

[@Atheos22]

I really hope they improve rasterization performance, I'd consider their GPU's if they performed better on older games.

[@ZizoYahya-ly3ge]

If Battlemage ends up being flawless success it'd continue the lineup. First arc launch had hardware and driver improvements helped salvage that issue and power consumption flaw. No doubt would buy Battlemage if Intel checks all the boxes because they present all the package. They're great cards for workload and gaming and the price is affordable. Assuming everything goes well

[@Krashulka]

I have a 4080 in my newer PC and it's fine, I won't be upgrading to the 50 series with that PC. I also have an older PC with a 10th gen 10400F and a RX6600, even though the RX6600 is fine for that PC, but I may just swap it out for a new Battlemage GPU in that PC. I'm looking forward to checking one out especially if the price is right. Cheers.

[@jamesrgg]

Ive been supper happy with my A770 and would love a more powerful option. Imagine how compelling the flagship would be if it came out with 20 or 24 GB of VRAM for AI wrokloads.

[@mahockey3]

Been looking to upgrade from an RTX2060. I've been looking at the 4060ti but it's just so expensive for what it is and I'm not touching AMD. These Battlemages might be a blessing 🙌

[@thseed7]

Hope they do well and we have another option. Also won't be mad to see Intel get a win if these are priced well and are as capable as the leaks suggest.

[@MakerTom2022]

Thanks. I'll be looking into whether the Intels will be a good upgrade from an Nvidia 4060Ti 8GB

[@Menroth.]

Man the value for $ on those is pretty huge. Would still want to compare to the next gen offerings before choosing.

[@SandTiger42]

Pricing will matter. I'm a bit skeptical that they will perform well AND be priced to out compete AMD and Nvidia.

[@hypothalamusjellolap8177]

Intel will/should keep making GPUs. Just they should merge the Server, Business and Consumer lines to focus on drivers for two cards at A770 and A380 tiers (same chips with mobile power envelopes for embedded) with their FLEX gpu VFIO/SR-IOV and ray tracing tech . This will densify the value of their cards and free up sales/marketing resources to expanding the feature set. Like adding VFIO/SR-IOV over ethernet (like EtherExp). It should allow them to pierce the veil of the GPU market, going tall on hardware and wide on software/usability rather than wide on hardware and deadlocked on momentum for software to support every iteration. A deep lake vs a desert sized dew or fog.

[@Owen-np3wf]

Hopefully they have a successful launch with this line of products so they will continue to develop gpu's. Intel have said after this generation of gpu's they will no longer be a focus of the company which sucks but big sales might convince them otherwise

[@OG_Gamers_Live]

I have questions about the performance chart because it uses the a770 as the 100 % metric and then lists the rtx 4070 ti as 206 % when in real world testing the 4070 T.i isn't actually 106 percent faster than the a770.....

[@luke7663]

Honestly I like seeing intel producing GPUs so that we as consumerss have more options to choose from and I would love to see nvidia making CPUs as well.

[@pjpleiss]

With these Arc cards, Intel would do themselves a lot of favors if they underpromised and then overdelivered, because if the cards perform BETTER than expectations in independent testing, the mob will jump all over them, thinking they are getting a deal.

[@goliath0967]

If these drop with those prices and that much performance then its gonna be pretty good competition fir more budgeted builds, especially on the lower end with that b550

[@Kareggan]

With Nvidia coming out with the GDDR7 now. I'm not sure if this one will keep up. Looks like the new AMD series will also be GDDR6

[@anshulsingh8326]

5060 sells will get hurt if its true

[@TR.Pixels]

I missed seeing that whiplash intro.

[@paulboyce8537]

1. PCIe 5.0 direct access to CPU with 8 pin power. REBAR on steroids that will give a huge performance gain. 2. CUDIMM lifting the CPU speed closer to GPU allowing higher pairing. Memory speed is vital. 3. ARC from Xe to Xe2 giving 50% gain. Plus better VRAM. 4. Paired top ARC you get APO that is 10-50% gain on supported titles. 5. ARC Xe from 225W to Xe2 250-275W for more performance. That's doubling the performance. 6. Arrow Lake PL2 Extreme 295W 7. No Hyper-Threading Technology making way to very powerful E Cores. We get 570W all up working for GPU pairing with architecture giving all good frames with no waiting/queuing where 60 FPS at 4k is better than 120 FPS from AMD/Nvidia where more than half the frames are broken or out of time giving stutter. 5080 is 400W card predicted and on paper the all INTEL system looks as good if not better. But with $1000 less coin.

[@kennethwilson8236]

wow, you have actually done your homework, Nice. The CUDIMM is important marker for the CPU from the Intel side.

[@iriths]

I’ve been wanting to upgrade from my 2070S for awhile now but the GPU market is so confusing to me

[@DeadlyHord3]

Genuinely considering selling my PS5 and building a gaming PC with either the flagship Battlemage or the 8800xt next year. Just waiting on the prices and performances

[@keego_yt0810]

When we needed them most for Gpus with reasonable price to performance... It's Arc from Intel.

[@drolingink]

I've been waiting for this release since the arc series was being released. Wanted to let them work through the kinks of their first series, and I think they have, for the most part. I'm pretty excited for the B970 because the cost of rtx cards is NOT exciting.

[@TheGeneReyva]

Concerning that Celestial could be axed if Battlemage does not do well. Especially when their flagship is 4070, a 19 month old card. I would like a B970, but I needed it half a year ago so I got a 4070.

[@lyonkennedy5588]

Thank you for this video! Really excited with the Battlemage GPU pricing, as these prices seem to be more realistic than Ngreedia's ridiculous pricing for their GPUs.

[@nielsvriethoff9476]

I put an A750 in mij second pc. Combined with an ryzen 5600 it performance is close to my 3060ti combined with core i5 10600k. So I’m happy with especially since it costed 200 euros.

[@chrisbird4913]

Some more decent drivers for their 770 that come with a major launch will be nice for P2p

[@barcelona2170]

Honestly, even though I am not holding my breath, I would not mind intel taking a step back with CPUs to get GPUs on track. If they do this and can then get back to goo CPU stability we could see NVidia make CPUs and if that happens we have a 3 way race for both component types. This makes a better competitive market. I'm hoping. But not optimistic.

[@spacecommanderbear]

I am curious to the actual picture quality Anti Aliasing AntiTrisopic Filtering and Vertical Sync on Intel GPU never used one before.

[@jonshaffer5793]

looks like it good be a good card. Will they abandon their customers later and not release any new drivers? seem like a possibility.

[@shekir2008]

How many years of support can we expect on arc cards as i want to build a future proof pc but im a bit scared that out of nowhere intel will end drivers support?

[@CHT1992]

Just get an AMD card. Intel is too big of a risk right now and Nvidia is sh*tting on the consumer. Current generation cards are fine, but i would advise waiting on RX 8000 lineup, since it will offer similar performance to what we have from AMD currently, but improved technology and hopefully better efficiency too. So something like a 8800 or 8800XT would be the idea purchase for people like you and me.

[@kdeas10]

If you want a future proof buy a used high end system from fb marketplace or something. I bought a 7800x3d/4090 system for only $2200 and it's been crazy upgrade coming from my old 970 system

[@PetruBolocan]

Atleast 5 years if they stop making GPU's and probably up to 10 if they continue.

[@shekir2008]

@@PetruBolocan let's hope so

[@atomanni-k5m]

since arc continue to exist as igpus i wouldnt worry

[@Sirblader11]

Hope intel can release something competitive before or on Jan 5th. Ive hit the limit of ny 980ti time for a new system

[@kitsune7919]

These have been ready to launch for at least 3 months now if not longer, if Intel doesnt figure out their drivers this time around theres no hope for their gpu division.

[@Met1900]

With those prices and better drivers on launch it could get interestig in low-midrange.

[@DaBrain2578]

Damn Intel... I want a B970! 💸💸💸

[@RobloxianX]

Intel releasing a 16GB $400 Arc B890 the speed of an RTX 4070 Ti SUPER would be great. Basically a 4070 Ti SUPER but half the price, but I think it would be great.

[@thornstrikesback]

I am very keen to see how these Battlemage GPU's play out, but Intel need to be on their 'A Game' with keeping the drivers updated as much as Nvidia, otherwise they will fall behind simply because people won't buy hardware that doesn't have the software/drivers to support it.

[@Phil-D83]

Hopefully it checks out

[@MikhailJathan]

I need them to fix the power consumption issue as well. No way my A770 needs to idle at 40w

[@FellTheSky]

I hope intel doesn't abandon this market. This generation has shown us that AMD and intel have no problem stagnating the market. So much GPU regression (7600xt barely faster than 6600xt, the disgusting 4060TI 16gb ... you get the point)

[@Fresh3v0]

isn't there rumors that intel is done with the GPU market , I've seen companies use the "trust me bro for the future upgrade" , but never the "well maybe will just stop idk" It's a bold strategy, Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for 'em

[@Will-wn7dg]

the price to performance will be great for now but if the 5060 releases at $300 in late 2025 it may be given a run for its money

[@ram64man]

It won’t be a western launch in December but a china exclusive like the original launch of the 700 series possibly to find bugs in drivers again before post ces launch

[@meyatetana2973]

considering AMD said they gave up on high end I really hope Intel can make Nvidia work hard for that spot. Of course I also hope they bring prices down but already know Intel won't. They haven't in the past when they get on top they start to charge a stupid amount of money for their products.

[@dieaking6475]

I just want you guys to know i bought a Philips 34m2c3500L 3440x1440 180hz Fast VA 0.5ms smart mbr No ghosting. Plenty fast. Deff a recommendation for people searching for a Ultra wide. its currently in sale in NL for 290,- regular price 370,-

[@ayushbansal4293]

If Intel manages to bring gpus at reasonable prices then they might disrupt the market because gpu prices these days are just absurd. I see an opportunity for both consumers and Intel. Hope Intel delivers on the value.

[@allxtend4005]

who care, people buy a RTX 4060/ti for 500-600$ then a Rx7700xt/7800xt that have way more performance even in RT. Who care about DLSS when your Card is Dead on Arival.

[@huenarbay1508]

If battlemage really delivers but I may wait for their next generation, I currently have a 4060 for my first PC and I'm leaning on 5070 with gddr7 performance but if 8800xt is more energy efficient I'll hop on AMD so really hope intel will up their game.

[@MrWorshipMe]

As a 1080ti user, I won't buy a card that is only 30% better than mine. And I won't buy a card that gives out 200 extra watts of heat either (ruling out 4080 or 5080) - so I guess I'll wait for 2026 with my upgrade.

[@nathangamble125]

Honestly, right now, I just want a successor for the *GT 1030* It wasn't great for the time, but in hindsight, and considering how GPU technology scales, having a low-end graphics card that costs less than $100 and uses only 30W, while delivering similar performance to the fastest integrated GPUs, would be extremely useful. Right now, the best processors with integrated GPUs are held back by their low cache capacity. In esports and strategy games where you don't need a high-end graphics card and a decent integrated GPU is good enough, CPUs with more cache still give much better performance. The best integrated GPUs are only available in processors with 16MB L3 cache, which is absolutely awful. Either Intel, AMD, or Nvidia should release a new low-end graphics card that doesn't suck, or AMD should release a budget APU with a decent amount of cache (retro games don't need 8 cores, but they will still benefit from more cache! Just give us an APU with a good integrated GPU, 4 cores, and 32MB L3!), or Intel should release a desktop CPU with a good integrated GPU (a lot of their laptop iGPUs are pretty good, but they aren't available on desktop CPUs, and their fastest desktop iGPUs are still only available on midrange and high-end CPUs with more cores than a typical iGPU user needs)

[@catfacecat.]

the fastest igpu compares to a 4070. they ain't gonna make a 30 watt 4070

[@catfacecat.]

the things you said literally exists, 5700x3d exists, an rx 6600 exists, a 3060 used exists, an a770 exists.

[@TheDarthBuddha]

I want a BattleMage,, not for gaming but running a lot of work displays at 4K for trading ..

[@SitWithAnkit]

Price to performance looks excellent.

[@adamadamx5464]

No chance to Battlemage while have lower TFLOPs than NV, have better game perf than NV. As I see top Battlemage will be slighty slower than 4070 but have awesome price, so if drivers will be good then it will be a good low end and lower mid generation

[@chocwah]

Basically the top flag ship card it's in the same tier as a RTX 3090 Ti 24GB or RX 6950 XT 16B "B970" And second tier is about RTX 3090 24GB or a RX 6900 XT 16GB "B770"

[@Reaperzx6]

for anyone who may not know top end battle mage was completely scrapped there was supposed to be another gpu level like how the cpus go i3 i5 i7 i9 but the next step up from the a770 was cancelled and celestial is going to be soft launched with very few gpus all info comes from mooreslawisdead sucks because I wanted the top end card Im loving intel arc with my a770 I just wish they had an higher end sku

[@GraphicallyChallenged]

From what I understand originally there were plans for a 40 Xe version (15-25% faster) that would have competed with the RTX 4080. This has been cancelled. GPUs were cut in size possibly to reduce cost & risk.

[@petemisc4291]

Problem for Intel is that even if they release battle mage in December, people won’t buy b/c they will wait for announcements from Nvidia and AMD in January

[@thewhyzer]

Do Intel GPU drivers have something similar to Nvidia's DSR to allow games to render at 4k and then downscale to 1080p displays for perfect anti-aliasing, for example?

[@Wkaelx]

Intel has the Xess upscaling tech if that's what you're asking.

[@thewhyzer]

​@@Wkaelx I'm not talking about upscaling, if anything I'm talking about the opposite. The game engine does all the work to render at 4k, while the drivers take that 4k image and downscale it to 1080p for display on the 1080p monitor. It provides for the best type of anti-aliasing. Nvidia's DSR stands for Dynamic Super Resolution, and ATI has something similar, VSR - Virtual Super Resolution. My question is if Intel has anything of the sort.

[@Wkaelx]

@@thewhyzer I supose yes, not sure tho.

[@solson223]

Is Intel going to be the hero we've been waiting for? I hope so. But I look at them like KIA. When they first came into the market they were selling cars for dirt cheap. Once they gained traction in the market the prices went way up. I'm sure Intel will be the same. They won't drag prices down, they'll rise to meet them once they become a major player in the GPU market.

[@helium_pit5801]

What a great time to be alive

[@itchimo82]

I have been staring at this bushy-ass mustache for a year waiting! I want a gold star.

[@Junyo]

For a kid who still lives with his parents this review is probably useful, but for anyone else the MAIN problem with the new Battlemage cards will probably be the power draw. Most of us will have to pay the electricity bill at the end of the month and previous Intel cards needed 150% of the power to perform at the level of the competition. This meant that these cards might be CHEAPER to buy, but after 12-18 months you would have spent the SAME amount of money and after that...well...these cards were just MUCH more expensive to run. I mean...why even mention the price, the performance without the Wattage?

[@DeepThinker193]

Dang, this looks surprisingly good. Now even I'm looking forward to this.

[@MindzEye03rd]

If they drop a low profile battlemage card I'll pick one up.

[@03chrisv]

It would need to have 4080 levels of performance for me to ditch nVidia, though I'm thinking it's going to be more like a 4070. Having 4070 levels of performance with 16GB of Vram is a good proposition if it's under $400, but it's not powerful enough for me to make the switch. Let's see what happens.