GRAVASTAR - Maybe Black Holes Don't Exist?

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[@petricor1420]

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Almost there.

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[@algol_gaming]

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[@Kethriss]

There was another theory kind of like this that solves the Information Paradox issue but stays with the idea of total collapse. Basically once neutron degeneracy pressure is overcome through gravity, a neutron star collapses in to a quark star. This would have enough gravity to form an event horizon around the star but there would still be a ball of quarks in the center and no singularity, preserving the quantum information that falls on to it.

[@srsorrow1708]

AarkTheDragon seriously? That theory exists? I came up with an exact similar one when I was writing down my theories on what black holes could be.

[@Thor_Asgard_]

@@srsorrow1708 clearly you did.

[@imnotfuckingusingthisaccou2574]

Quark stars don’t have event horizons

[@antaresmc4407]

But the event horizon comes with space time flipping and all those weird stuff that would collapse the star into a singularity anyway

[@gerrycrisostomo6571]

I've been thinking about the same thing for quite some time. In my theory, matter does not collapse into nothingness at all but instead hyper compacted into ultra-dense ball of sub-atomic particles like quark or Bose-Einstein matter. That state of matter will also exert gravitational force so strong that even light cannot escape, therefore it's a black hole in a sense but with ultra-dense form of matter at the center. And that is the reason why black holes grow in size when it pulls tremendous amount of matter into it. Because the matter that it pulls simply add to it's mass and size, which simply proves that some form of matter still exist at the center and not just energy. And that is also why there's jets of sub-atomic particles like photons coming from the opposite "poles" of the black hole. It only proves that there's still a spherical shape of ultra-dense matter that is spinning so rapidly, maybe at the speed of light or even greater which accelerates part of matter that it pulls into jet's of high energy particles shooting away from the poles. On the other hand, if the black holes have nothing but gravitational energy, then the jet's of high energy particles at the "poles" will not be possible at all. All matter that it pulls will simply go into the hole, disappear and nothing will escape at all. It also will not increase the size of the black hole.

[@mtvpisspot6938]

This video is really good I learn something new from you everyday Anton

[@ollielewis8590]

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[@aldavid119]

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[@mortkebab2849]

There's these things called "books" that do that even better.

[@jacquescousteau3194]

@@mortkebab2849 there's this thing called minding your own business, it's great

[@sirruffalot]

I always thought to myself that black holes aren't holes at all but rather hyper massive objects that are warping space around them faster than light can escape. But there actually is something inside, everything that ever fell into it as 1 hyper massive object.

[@kyzer422]

Exactly.

[@guitarpaul1]

Check out quantum fuzzballs. They are basically the next step up from neutron or quark stars

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

Well done you literally described a black hole

[@bryanbradley6871]

I believed they were gravastars because they look similar

[@reesemartin3285]

True. Studying the phenomenon of black holes we can see that they all very in size. Not a hole but an object that keeps building on to itself without limit

[@OmegaWolf747]

If gravastars exist rather than black holes, then we have a giant gravastar at the center of our galaxy with a child universe growing inside it?

[@nmarbletoe8210]

oooh that is so adorable i hope it's true.

[@PhoenixNL72-DEGA-]

Not much different then, than it would be with a blackhole cause a lot of scientist have also hypothesized that the implosion of a star into a black hole creates a new universe inside the black hole through a big bang expansion of spacetime just like our own.

[@skitsothemadman5903]

Robert Phoenix so we are made from a black hole we as in all things

[@OmegaWolf747]

If this video is right, it likely is.

[@Mernom]

It would explain the sudden change in the acceleration of the universe - something changed at the parent gravastar. But that raises another issue: What about the universe outside the gravastar? and if it's too inside a gravastar, what's of the universe outside THAT? What was thje first universe? We'll still need to explain that. And how much further we can keep this chicken and egg system going? Does each child universe have less energy?

[@gemdragon555]

im going to be happy when he reaches 100k subscribers. Anton himself helped me find out my insterest in physics

[@leito1996]

Check now ;)

[@chuntguntley8771]

"Hello wonderful person"-Anton "Hello antoooooon"-me and my 3rd grade class.

[@Phaleel]

Please do not teach children this nonsense... This is just an asshole pretending to know QM and Relativity.

[@rarebeeph1783]

@@Phaleel Anton's qualifications in theory have no bearing on whether or not the ideas he describes are "nonsense." It's possible to relay information you don't quite comprehend, and although that isn't ideal, it is also not damning.

[@vaultstar168]

@@Phaleel I mean, a good portion of his content is him paraphrasing info from journals to be more palatable for most people. Unless you're saying the studies in said journals are also nonsense from assholes, in which case I'll tell you get a real job.

[@kendomyers]

Youre in third grade? Must be in fourth grade by now huh?

[@MrLee-cy1pw]

@@Phaleel what are you talking about?

[@tres-2b848]

this is acctualy a very interesting video, thx for the knowledge anton

[@OfTehMedia]

Love your content! Thanks for being wonderful, Anton.

[@Baigle1]

we learn more every day thanks to your videos, its these fundamental assumptions in science that teach the most about what there is to learn out there and how we fill the information gap until we have enough knowledge to come to a better understanding

[@Tubularjake]

After you've watched every sciencey show/documentary/lecture on the internet....you come here, for this kind of awesomeness. Love your videos man! Primo content.

[@musicman2001]

Thank you for all the great info. Keep playing in that sandbox...so cool

[@aaronmicalowe]

Why can't information be destroyed. For example, when I get too drunk, the next day the information of what I did got destroyed :D

[@nonojustno1766]

That information isn't destroyed, just seems that way because tidal forces prevent that information from getting through. Instead the information propogates through space where it's reflected back from other systems. This then causes a dramatic red shift and the emination of a new type of radiation...."shame"

[@delayed_control]

Gravstars would actually look pretty much the same as real black holes, since they're dense enough for their surface radiation to be redshifted into black and for the gravitational lensing to occur

[@derekscanlan4641]

that's a problem tho, isn't it? i mean... if it looks like a duck, if it smells like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, is it not just a duck?

[@catpoke9557]

@@derekscanlan4641 Maybe the duck is full of mechanics and is animatronic and scented. It's the inside that matters, not just the outside!

[@Unethical.Dodgson]

@@derekscanlan4641 you're assuming you're not dealing with someone who has never seen a fucking duck before. We're dealing with an unknown that has many unknown qualities. Basically you're seeing a shadow of a duck. But you've never seen a duck before. Can you tell me what it is? You might be able to tell me what it isn't. Which is pretty much what we're capable of.

[@kennethferland5579]

Singularities are certainly impossible, we have known this for ages because of quantum principles. This was why Einstein never believed they could form and we still have no way to describe how a singularity can form, everyone's just been hand waving that part.

[@austinbryan6759]

Well we have now a photo of a black hole that looks as predicated based of previous knowledge. Also keep in mind that Einstein's gravity itself can't exist because of quantum principles. When they try to add it all they get is black holes all over the place.

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

Quantum physics is far from impeccable; someone will think of an explanation that isn't complete rubbish from over-imaginative children eventually

[@vaultstar168]

@@cryoraptora303tm2 Okay, Filler Friday

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

@@vaultstar168 Eh

[@stevebrindle1724]

I was just about getting my head around black holes and then Anton throws Gravastars into the mix! Thanks, Anton!

[@stevebrindle1724]

I guess I am back to being as thick as a Plank limit!

[@OrionEJ]

The concept of a Gravastar is kinda hard to grasp at first, but it is really interesting . Weird I've never heard of one till now considering how long as the idea has been around, really enjoyed this video.

[@gerrycrisostomo6571]

I've been thinking about the same thing for quite some time. In my theory, matter does not collapse into nothingness at all but instead hyper compacted into ultra-dense ball of sub-atomic particles like quark or Bose-Einstein matter. That state of matter will also exert gravitational force so strong that even light cannot escape, therefore it's a black hole in a sense but with ultra-dense form of matter at the center. And that is the reason why black holes grow in size when it pulls tremendous amount of matter into it. Because the matter that it pulls simply add to it's mass and size, which simply proves that some form of matter still exist at the center and not just energy. And that is also why there's jets of sub-atomic particles like photons coming from the opposite "poles" of the black hole. It only proves that there's still a spherical shape of ultra-dense matter that is spinning so rapidly, maybe at the speed of light or even greater which accelerates part of matter that it pulls into jet's of high energy particles shooting away from the poles. On the other hand, if the black holes have nothing but gravitational energy, then the jet's of high energy particles at the "poles" will not be possible at all. All matter that it pulls will simply go into the hole, disappear and nothing will escape at all. It also will not increase the size of the black hole.

[@arsenRS]

maybe our universe is one big gravastar and we are all matter that was sucked into it.

[@alessio3200]

Hello wonderful Anton!

[@1stPCFerret]

Could you please do a video (or two) on the Shapley Attractor and the Dipole Repellor?

[@tiitgeorg720]

nope as a person who has learned astronomy and physics i highly doubt it the fact that a super massive gravstar being in the middle of our galaxy and every other galaxy sounds way more surreal than a tear in space time. but who knows

[@Mernom]

We don't have the physics to describe how matter and energy behaves in those kinds of extreme conditions. That lacking is what created the mathematical construct that is the singularity.

[@Strype13]

I'd be curious to know if there has been any updates on this particular research in recent years?

[@BlackCatastrophe999]

You sir have earned yourself a new subscriber!

[@vkrikela]

I came up with this idea like 10 years ago. That black holes are not actually holes, but a soup of closely compact matter that its gravity doesn't let light escape. A denser version of a neutron star

[@SpacePonder]

This is interesting as now there's a lot of questions like are gravitational waves caused by colliding gravastars? First time using that word!

[@cidsapient7154]

im quite surprised ive never heard of this before its so simple that its had to have been thought of before

[@p.rabbitt4914]

Anton- would a beam of light blue shited by a gravastar to below the planck length, would it basically be a solid object at that point? Would it be able to interact with the universe in any way light a super gamma ray or would it exist in some other dimension of space entirely?

[@kayraefesimav893]

i love the intro and i subscibed

[@mitchella2198]

Cool. Great work dude

[@kyzer422]

String Theory also kind of solves the black hole information paradox, were the particles inside are sucked infinitely close to each other, but not into a Singularity. This object is called a "Fuzzball" because it's a ball of Strings, and has all the other properties of a black hole.

[@kyzer422]

As close together as possible without being in the same place, aka "touching". I didn't say touching at first because what we think of as touching is actually not, since the electrons in atoms actually repel each other.

[@maxpheby7287]

As I said in one of your previous video's the old Victorian theory of vacuum energy neatly explains the expansion we see and now they tell us that the engine for such a system works as well if not better than black-holes!? Interesting to say the least all you would need is a few of these at the edges of the super clusters and bob your uncle no more need for dark energy.

[@warpeace8891]

I like this idea too except for the low temperature you suggest. How could it be possible to be close to zero Kelvin? It may be possible for the temperature to be insanely high but be irrelevant because the other factors are so extreme that they effectively mask or counteract the effects of high temperature.

[@allertonoff4]

fascinating stuff .. question .. do extra dimensions Actually exist, or are they just theoretical constructs ?

[@peterstrong772]

Good video.keep up the good work.

[@tjzx3432]

Personally I like the word gravatar vice gravastar. I mean we already have magnatars why not gravatars. Also you mean Bose Einstein condensate, cool video. Additionally hypothesis, the gravastar seems like the perfect candidate for the polar opposite of a black hole. Meaning that gravastars are inverted sustained quantum black holes, these could also be proto black holes that after a certain point invert back out into space. Almost folding a planet back out of a black hole, with the sum light frequency of the black hole it was formed from.

[@linux2583]

Can you do a video about the comparison of the dark-energy star concept vs the gravastar concept in relation to other alternatives explaining black holes.

[@galaxia4709]

That's what I love about Anton, the fact he also treats new theories. And as always, bye-bye.

[@Subzer039]

"After this fart the light becomes to hard to see" Thank autocaptions. You always bring the lulz.

[@robotaholic]

Forget black holes, please do a whole in depth study into neutron stars...Neutron Stars are without a doubt existent and way way more interesting than any other object. We can learn so much! Thank you wonderful person!!!

[@whatdamath]

I agree, I've been making a few videos about them. should be in this list kzbin.info/aero/PL9hNFus3sjE583xjUrcWL43JVQE9nC5qi

[@jainalabdin4923]

There are also Planck Stars and Plasmoids as other competing replacemens that don't have singularities like Black Holes do with our current limitations to Einstein's Field equations.

[@ozzynomicon2817]

Things about Anton. He doesnt bore us with advanced mathematics. He gives us all the gooey info we want without the technical jargon clogging up the air ways. As a great band once said. Anton ain't noise pollution.

[@emoishguy08]

Do a thing on quasi stars, that's something I would like to see

[@aryanmn1569]

Such a nice idea 💡

[@nmarbletoe8210]

Hello wonderful Anton, this is person!

[@akerguido9399]

Very interesting, thanks.

[@MrBrightlight66]

The gravistar theory makes much more sense than the black hole theories. Thanks for the presentation.

[@katesisco]

Seems like one my my theory papers proposed that there were no bhs, that they are actually a photon maze. Magnetically confined light in a maze. No gravity involved.

[@chucksucks8640]

I wonder if a black hole has an infinite bottom caused by the stretching of the space wouldn't the distance between the black hole and matter outside of it approach infiniti and it loses its attraction with them?

[@trezxmas5121]

Each square inch would weigh probably the mass of couple suns OR MORE...universal scales be hard to fathom lol

[@davidhughes8357]

Very informative.

[@AL4LVE79]

A Black star that be fng bad ass ! luv to hear how that one would work . dark and cold ? but burning what ?

[@lutherkoch421]

Could gravastars be at the centers of galaxies classified as having active galactic nuclei and producing astrophysical jets?

[@nandakumarcheiro]

A hyper massive Blue straggler becoming a Magnatar star exhibiting high momentum due to proton and neutron fused as part of the Blackhole.

[@aryanmn1569]

Hooray new form of matter, ICE!!!

[@jedaaa]

something i'm not sure i quite get, in order for this bose einstein condensate to form, things need to be close to absolute zero, so if this gravistar is emitting so much radiation/energy... how is the surrounding area cold enough ?

[@allenwalters8812]

If information is lost in a black hole would that mean once a black hole forms the information of the star that created it would be lost also? Does this mean if you go back in time it would be as if the star never existed, as if it was always a black hole? Would that mean you could never see a black hole form and even black holes you see now may have formed in the future?

[@Mernom]

One thing: the Gravastar appearing to be cold, and it actualy being cold, are two different things. There's no way so much stuff in close proximity is actualy cold, since cold is the lack of energy. The Gravastar absorbes the kinetic energy of everything that falls on it, after all.

[@hypeninja4786]

That thing about Quantum info disappearing in black holes... sounds a lot like Data Degradation in a computer program...

[@Iammrspickley]

Today I read about Fuzzballs... never heard of it before.....could you enlighten me (and probably some others as well) about this subject trough a wonderful person video? 😊

[@lassoatrain]

When ever the topic turns to black holes i cant help but think of steven hawkins telling his vision of an opera singer stuck in a moment singing the same note for all of etetnity at the event horizon of a black hole. My thinking on his vision is this. Light like rocks and minerals has its own unique properties and characteristics that we use to identify it with . One of lights best known properties is it travels at 186,000 miles a second .so if the opera singers image was trapped in a field he would no longer have the property of light and his image would not still be stuck in the moment. And i believe this is also true of the light in a black hole. I believe that the most popular definition of a black hole should be changed from " a blackhole is a collapsed star whos gravity is such that light cant escape" to a black hole is a collapsed star whos gravity is such that light can not exsist.

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

question if it is not a event horizon does that mean if we fall in one can we escape one?

[@p.rabbitt4914]

Anton- what do you understand about plasmoids, & the Electric Theory of the Universe. Is it viable?

[@Unethical.Dodgson]

Put simply. No.

[@p.rabbitt4914]

@@Unethical.Dodgson Thanks, but I was asking Anton. I dont care to hear uninformed, unfounded opinions from random people.

[@Shaden0040]

Quantum information is ASSUMED to disappear. What if it is stored inside the singulairity or on its surface, or passed on to a new universe? Or is spewed out in quantum foam where matter randomly appears out of nothing in intergalactic space/time?

[@cyanstar4023]

At first I didn't understand how Einstein-Bose condensate would form around a Gravastar. After all, why would the surrounding space be cooler than deep space. But if extremely redshifted light came out of it could it be an effect like laser cooling?

[@MikeLeathen]

Anton, what is the fastest you could make a black hole evaporate?

[@cryoraptora303tm2]

You can't make a black hole evaporate. Black holes don't evaporate in the traditional sense. The word 'evaporate' in this context is a description of the process of particles of the black hole being converted into Hawking radiation. This happens at a set rate and can't be changed. It will take standard stellar-mass black holes an extremely long time to disappear (around 10 followed by 64 zeroes years), and supermassive black holes will take even longer. By the time a standard black hole loses any noticeable mass, humans and the entire solar system will be long dead.

[@hawkfumodee5364]

Makes as much sense as any other theory. It is even possible black holes are an area of space that is so cold all activity ceases. Nobody knows, and the way we are headed, nobody ever will :(.

[@ErikAdalbertvanNagel]

You should really worry about Steven Hawking knocking at your door at 3 am., and you will have the question is tis video worth it?

[@anthonyholloway4372]

It's September 23rd. Are we dead yet?

[@algol_gaming]

Apparently, you're fooled by those conspiracy theorist tl;dr: Nope.

[@butzschelle2799]

Oh I completely forgot that they came up with that bullshit again.

[@rudeyoulie_2260]

Im from the future and i say no

[@Llamazone-Prime]

Due to an unforeseen event, the apocalypse has been rescheduled for October 15th :P

[@dreadful4949]

Anthony Holloway lol.

[@oldenvye6432]

Grava star, that's new to me.

[@SpacePonder]

With all this knowledge about the cosmos, I'm now feeling very strange. Every time I look at the stars at night, many emotions are going through my head, which is very overwhelming. The thought that our universe possibly arose from quantum fluctuations (+ many other theories) is emotionally strange. Does anyone feel the same?

[@jeupater1429]

Yes

[@prez.cookie980]

Bose-Einstein Condensate, a state of matter so cold that the atoms themselves become fluid like, and merge together. Essentially becoming one, larger atom made up of other atoms.

[@prez.cookie980]

I looked it up a while ago.

[@DistantVision85]

I believe that a black hole could be a super massive atom in which it's atomic number would be the sum of every proton. Obviously nothing more than speculation, but it is a testable hypothesis. We can try see if energy levels when they form match what the atomic transmutation energy would be.

[@radio3499]

one word.... SAFIRE. Look it up. Universe is electrically/plasma based. Changes everything.

[@d1agram4]

So does the recent photo of a black hole negate this?

[@PrivateSi]

I seriously doubt the highest frequency of light is the Planck length but you never know. I prefer the idea of a space being a lattice of variable sized cells where gravity shrinks the cell size. Matter is deformation patterns in the lattice. The core of a black hole over a certain mass or lattice density annihilates excess matter back to regular=empty lattice from the inside out as the black hole feeds and grows... A tiny lattice expansion wave occurs with each annihilation, adding up to dark energy but the lattice inside the hollow core still remains immensely compressed compared to the surrounding galaxy. A universe grows inside the core of a large/dense enough black hole...

[@vtron9832]

My theory video suggests that gravastars are inside of black holes, the only thing that holds gravastars in place, is the Pauli exclusion principle

[@bartjanc]

The gravastar that created our universe would be a super super super super massive gravastar? Would it have the mass of our entire universe? That makes the super massive black holes in our universe look super tiny...

[@SolarizeYourLife]

I can not believe that there are universe inside a black hole,or our universe is in side a black hole, because, if the blackhole absorbs a star then, matter will appear 'magicly' in our universe from out of no where!

[@Avinashk02]

What about galaxy formation?

[@Potrosson]

Is there gunna be a funeral video for the Alien Isolation series?

[@chengzhou8711]

Woah- real life infohazard?

[@luongmaihunggia]

Why doesn't the gravastar warp space-time like a black hole in universe sandbox? They don't add that in the game?

[@haraldhimmel5687]

OK but now we have an actual photograph of a black hole and it resembles pretty much exactly our simulations. Doesn't that refute gravastars, at least if we assume that only one of those celestials exists?

[@chrisgriffith1573]

Black holes... from my current understanding, the extreme gravity and additionally, the speeds of any such matter that is entering the event horizon of a black hole, time quite nearly stops. It would take millions of years for the outside observer to notice anything was happening to the particles which land on the surface of a black hole's event horizon due to the extreme difference in time dilation after that gravity shreds the object. (I know that would also be impossible to see given that the light never makes it out) This could mean that the collapse of the star that formed the "Black Hole" is still in the state of collapse, and the rebound is still yet to happen... all the matter, particles, stuff... is yet to explode due to the time dilation on a sliding scale so far out of sync with the observer that there is no motion within our timeframe. Other stars, matter and everything else is in another relative timeframe, allowing anything outside to experience the gravity accumulated by the start of the collapse, and all the other matter still caught by the collapse still on its way to the epicenter of the collapse.

[@TheEVEInspiration]

Bose Einstein Condensate of what exactly? Molecules, atoms, quarks? As I understand, the BEC we have created here on Earth, is just a bunch of molecules behaving as a single quantum object.

[@raposaraposa553]

At very low temperature boundaries between particles disappear, waves that are those particles merge. There is a video about that somewhere. I think it's about lowest temperature in universe

[@08wolfeyes]

I think scientists are trying to find these ( In the Maths ) as a way to not deal with the information problem they have with black holes. It doesn't mean black holes don't exist. We have to remember that a black hole bends space... and time due to the crazy gravity it has. Which would suggest that maybe any information going into a black hole is in fact in another time and space. That doesn't mean any information is lost, just that it has gone somewhere else. I don't fully understand why the information being lost is such a problem?

[@gjkoolen]

Great video! Can anyone tell why people think that inside a black hole there's a singularity? I never met anyone that can explain this, but I hear everybody repeating this assumption.

[@GamersStandUnitedClan]

Black Holes vs GRAVASTAR just too see what it does.

[@ZennExile]

planck length is the smallest expression of information that can measured, from our Dimension of Observation. But a single planck length contains an infinite number of smaller Dimensions of Observation. Just as our Universe is a single point of quantum probability, in an macro sea of infinite other Dimensions of Observation. All of these dimensions are separated by boundaries of Causality. Regions where no information can be transmitted or observed. The wavelengths of energy just become so small, or so large, that they can no longer transfer information. The secret to the "black hole" is that it is not a hole, or black. It is a mass of tiny uniform energy fields that form layers like an onion to to a point where the particles in the middle, can no longer contain energy. They cannot become excited. This creates a negative energy. Contained form of quantum vacuum. Everything we can Observe is floating in the quantum Field. A sort of, 4 dimensional foam. The center of what we call a black hole, is separated from that foam. Zero Point Energy is the theory that explains this interaction. It is the only means allowed by quantum mechanics to achieve absolute zero. The singularity is a ridiculous theory that never held up to observations or predicted anything useful. Reality is an infinitely nested series of Russian Matryoshka dolls. In both directions. That is how infinity is created. By divisible wavelength. Just Nikola Tesla tried to tell us. Everything is Light.

[@Shaden0040]

All depends on if we can photograph an event horizon of a black hole.

[@chrisgaming1286]

I come from 2019, we have a photo of a black hole

[@cypturus3900]

Looks at title Me: all that work for nothing? Hey at least we discovered Gravaatars (:

[@wernerboden239]

It kinda makes more sense than a black hole.

[@AlienRelics]

Not that anyone could see it, because ads for other videos popped up, covering the screen. I really hate that.

[@clerickolter]

Then explain the supermassive objects in the center of most galaxies, billions of stellar masses, there is a possibility both might exist.

[@roberttrotter1502]

:) ha. I just saw this and yeup... The "missing letter" in the black hole. -b

[@skytreker]

It's soar throath "Anton" again 😋

[@DerogatoryMess]

Couldn't a graviton star simply be a star that exhausted or lost its Corona or whatever forces are working at the surface? I'm probably completely off base but it's a thought

[@osotanuki3359]

What if our universe isn't the first one, what if the great attractor is a gravastar, what if it has been before? What if that gravastar explodes after absorbing all the matter in the universe like it might have done before???