Grave of Tiburcio Vasquez, California's Most Wanted Criminal of the 1870s

[@curtgomes]

I was raised right next to the cemetery you feature in this episode. As a boy I spent lots of time wandering through this large cemetery viewing grave markers that went clear back to the civil war. I also worked there for two summers. Quite an education! My grandparents, numerous relatives, and mother are interred there. I am very familiar with the Tibercio Vasquez story as I lived in the area all my life. As a matter of fact, the photo of the court house you use here shows the courthouse as it appears today. It is still in regular use. It was built during the civil war years when Abraham Lincoln was president and is truly historical. It was initially intended to be the state capitol, but that did not work out. Another interesting story. There was a dungeon like jail built under that building where prisoners were held for trial, including Tibercio Vasquez. It is still there today, in the basement, and an incredible and historic place to visit. There are some photos on line. Vasquez was hanged in the area behind the court house where a parking lot exists today. There were said to be many ladies in the crowd crying and weeping. In 1901, President McKinley visited San Jose and gave a speech from St James Park, directly across from this courthouse. He soon thereafter went to Buffalo NY where he was assassinated. He was very popular and his large statue was erected in the park, which is still there today. An interesting story in itself. In 1933, Brooke Hart, the son of a prominent family in San Jose, was kidnapped and murdered. The kidnappers were caught but the citizens were outraged and wanted to hang them immediately. A large lynch mob eventually broke into the Sheriff's office, which was next to the same courthouse, and took the kidnappers across the street, stripped them down, and hung them from a tree in the middle of the park. It was national news. Lots of photos exist, but no one was ever prosecuted. Prominent citizens were identified in the crowd. Another interesting piece of local history. I recall, as a child, visiting Hart's department store in downtown San Jose. In 1931 this same court house caught fire and was almost lost. The original rotunda was burnt from the building. The County Courts records building, located next to he courthouse, was in danger of catching fire. An interesting story has the sheriff releasing and using prisoners, from the nearby jail, to enter the building to retrieve the court records. Not one prisoner escaped and the records were saved. The sheriff is said to have afterwards bought the prisoners lunch.... Just a few highlights.

[@tracysmith3076]

Wow. Thank you for the history you have shared. I really enjoyed reading this

[@curtgomes]

@@tracysmith3076 My pleasure...

[@garymckee8857]

Thanks 👍

[@sunnyskye213]

Great of you to share that knowledge; so interesting......😊

[@thejourney1369]

Thanks for sharing! That was really interesting!

[@carlupthegrove262]

I'm very pleased that you took the time to recognize that there are differing views on this historical person. It's important for history to show balance...nice job.

[@toddpeca7609]

History should be true, and the facts should tell the story.

[@Professor-taboo]

@@toddpeca7609it should be but sadly like science it goes to the highest bidders .

[@WosbaldoPalafox]

God bless Mexico 🇲🇽 and all hard work people and viva Mexico 🇲🇽 ay Jalisco

[@danapretzer1895]

Always great to start my Sunday with History Hunters thanks again for bringing us all along.

[@davidniehaus202]

Jeff would you fulfill my suggestion by visiting the grave of john philip sousa please and you are a sweet kind guy on youtube 😊♥️

[@r2angels739]

California has one of the most rich and unique histories that most have never heard of or understand. Great video I enjoy your content views and prospective on what you do.

[@slink1957]

Hey Jeff, nice job on presenting this one. Very happy for you guys for hitting 100k subscribers. I look forward to many more of your videos and wish you and Sarah all the success as your audience grows!

[@jbenziggy]

Thank you, good friend of this channel! We are onto 101K! We wish you blessings too!

[@RedBull2k555]

thanks , love your story telling abilities, so educational and immersive. One of the best ways to start an sunday morning.

[@jbenziggy]

Thank you so much, Jeff! I sometimes struggle with how to keep it interesting and not bore the watcher.

[@rhondaz356]

This was so interesting. I'm not sure I have ever heard of him. He certainly led a colorful life. It's so true that he can be presented as an outlaw, or a hero. It all depends whose telling the stories. You gave us facts about definite incidents, Jeff. One can't argue with them. How they're interpreted is apparently another story... a great video 🤔👏👏🧡

[@MrEbug68]

Great job and keep up the good work. Very Satisfactory

[@jbenziggy]

Thank you so much!

[@luckytahlula6515]

Another great history lesson, Jeff. Enjoyed it and thanks for sharing it. God bless you.

[@jbenziggy]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@nancynorton9119]

I so enjoy your history lessons & video’s and it never ceases to amaze me how people will turn criminals into martyrs and totally make them into hero’s after their deaths especially the good looking and charming ones.

[@melindagordonbeck8958]

Of course WE love California history!!! Thanks again for the wonderful content Jeff! One of our favorite pastimes is roaming through the old cemeteries! Your biggest Tennessee (formerly California) fans!

[@jbenziggy]

WONDERFUL PEOPLE YOU ARE! Shout out to our biggest Tennessee fans!

[@melindagordonbeck8958]

@@jbenziggy awww thanks guys! We really look forward to Sundays and seeing our former home and the history! Keep up the great work!

[@williamwaite1926]

I am now a subscriber and have watched a number of your videos. I thank you for another local history. I am an acquaintance of a cousin of Leander Davison who was one of the persons killed at the store in Tres Pinos. Also I note several have asked about the reason the grave is at an angle. Santa Clara County Historian Clyde Arbuckle , now deceased, told us, 1st when Tibercio was buried, it was outside the confines of the cemetery as at the time no criminals were allowed to be buried in the Catholic Cemetery, though now it has grown and his grave is inclusive. 2ndly his grave is at an angle as he "was at odds with his fellow men".

[@truckerray9634]

Another great video Jeff, you put a lot of hard work into these videos which I always appreciate since I learn so much history of the state we live in. I'm 73 now and continuously learning from your videos. Hey buddy, glad to see you guys passed the 100,000 mark 🎉.

[@jbenziggy]

Thank you, Trucker Ray! We did pass 100,000 and are now sitting at 100,600, which the public cannot see unfortunately until it hits 101K.

[@scottherrick7531]

Jeff. There you go again. Doing another great and informative episode. I never heard of the guy. If he did what they say he did he’s an outlaw indeed. Thanks for another history lesson from the History Hunters. Well done as always. You showed respect for someone who probably didn’t deserve it. Take care my friend

[@jbenziggy]

Thanks again! I appreciate the nice feedback, Scott!

[@kristadiaz7698]

Is there a meaning behind the angle of the headstone?

[@newlam7958]

When Vasquez was young in Monterey at that time, it was a very violent port town, basically a "spaghetti western" town. The road between Monterey and Carmel had quite a few graves lining the road of those ambushed by bandits. I also read somewhere the reason why Vasquez's grave is curved and not in line with the other headstones is because one of the cemetary roads was curved and he was buried at the curve of the road. Later in the years, changes were made and the road removed.

[@cameronmccreary4758]

Thank you Jeff for this presentation on Señor Vasquez. I don't know much about him but I do know that some Star Trek episodes were filmed at Vasquez Rocks. Also, I am subscribed with full bell and I didn't receive notification of this presentation.

[@WayneKline]

Well another fantastic installment of History from History Hunters. Well done you two! 😍 So, why is the headstone 🪦 on a 45 degree angle? Thank you Jeff & Sarah for filling in my Monday lunch break. Hello from Manila this week!

[@jbenziggy]

Thanks again, Wayne. My best guess is that he led a life that was in tangent to the upright lifestyle of most people and thus his marker reflected being off. Hope you are doing well!

[@bethtyree6346]

Thank you Jeff I learn so much from you

[@pattyboymccull9647]

Very interesting as usual!

[@jbenziggy]

Glad you think so!

[@muhammadsalaam]

As usual, another great epitome by Jeff and Sarah. Keep up the great work!

[@leahreposa4599]

This was a great video and story. I had never heard of him, very well done.

[@jbenziggy]

Glad you enjoyed it, Leah. I am surprised at how few people have heard of him. Even at the cemetery a guy was trying to tell me about the VIPs buried there and when I told him about Vasquez, he had no idea a famous outlaw was buried there!

[@leahreposa4599]

@@jbenziggy which is reason number 987 why your channel rocks!

[@bsomero10]

Thank You Jeff and Sarah for another GREAT video!

[@jbenziggy]

Our pleasure! Thank you, Brigitte!

[@Tiburon876]

Professional presentation.. thanks.. keep up the great approach

[@jbenziggy]

Wow, thanks David!

[@Tiburon876]

@@jbenziggy hello.. question ⁉️.. you are putting in some effort and quality time..! what's in it for you..?..to what...avail!?

[@breezeclear5416]

Viva Tiburcio Vasquez! 👏👏👏👏🇲🇽

[@jbenziggy]

He could have lived longer without his thieving ways.

[@vulcanbreeze]

Another great video! I guess one man's criminal is another man's freedom fighter

[@greyghostjay]

I have visited Vasquez rocks many times when I lived down there. The fact that his siblings were law abiding citizens, I really believe like in this video he chose to be lazy and thus resulted in a life of crime. Great story once again!

[@gervas4935]

If you believe that then george washington was a criminal and a terrorist. The guy was rich had thousands of acres and 300 slaves. Yet he still didnt want to pay any taxes. Just like the rich today. Only the rich drinked tea back then. There was no need to go to war with the mother country Britain. It was expensive fighting the French and protecting the colonies. Were the british supose to pay for everything and the american colonies just have a free pas and not pay any taxes. If you consider Vasquez a criminal even though he was raising money to raise an army and free the Occupied states then washington would be a traitor, criminal, terrorist. We would be better off being British.

[@junior1497]

Do you say the same of Billy the kid and Jesse James?

[@tedmccullen7466]

I look forward to each Sunday when your show comes on I feel like I’m going to my history class in school I absolutely love it I said it before and I’ll say it again History Hunters is the “BEST” thank you so much for my Sunday evenings I rate you at 10 STARS!

[@jbenziggy]

Wow that’s an ego inflating comment. Tone it down or our heads will pop! Lol. Just kidding but we really appreciate the very thoughtful comments! We thank you very much!

[@harveycaldwell2409]

Thank you Jeff and Sarah for this video

[@jbenziggy]

Thanks Harvey! We appreciate you watching!

[@vikapica8123]

Great video as always!

[@jbenziggy]

Glad you enjoyed! Was this your first comment?

[@seanpacificrailroad3700]

Amazing piece of California History. Thanks so much for sharing. 👍😀

[@jbenziggy]

You're welcome! Thanks for watching!

[@briannave7326]

Thanks Jeff for another as usual interesting video.

[@jbenziggy]

You are very welcome! Thank you for watching!

[@donkaspar5336]

Another great video of California history. Thank you!

[@kcgunkerstein5061]

Great video Jeff, I love your "wild west" content. Keep up the good work!

[@jbenziggy]

Thanks, will do!

[@lindsaymacpherson8782]

Enjoyed this bit of history and found it very interesting Thankyou Jeff and Sarah for another great video

[@jbenziggy]

Our pleasure! Thanks Lindsay, always faithful viewer!

[@positivityplace]

I think it's important to consider the perspective of Mexican people during the time when Mexico lost California and many Mexicans lost their land due to new land laws enacted by the American government, which favored English-speaking settlers. Mexicans also faced racial discrimination, being denied jobs, education, and the right to vote, and many were forcibly removed from their homes and relocated to less desirable areas. Given these circumstances, Joaquin Murrieta and others like him, such as Tiburcio Vasquez, were probably viewed as heroes by some and seen as challenging the unjust laws and discrimination that they faced…so just a different perspective of people at that time in history…

[@lindaxwrenoh]

thank you, exactly.

[@ravensbrood3544]

So did the Native Peoples of this Continent..🤔

[@bunacat1]

I can see how things were looked at back when he was alive. Can I ask how you feel about the fact that he is obviously still revered in some areas today? After hearing about the bad things that he did, I find it hard to believe that medical facilities are named after him. He may not have murdered anyone, but he still robbed and no doubt assaulted folks. I was born in and still live in Santa Clara County and have been to that cemetery that he is buried in. There is another smaller cemetery not far from that one at Winchester and Newhall that has a lot of old gravesites. I lived in the apartments next door for a couple of years. Very interesting and thank you for the video.

[@Hugo-py2ce]

That's exactly right.

[@dannyromero6068]

Absolutey true - and we were “native” like the other so called “natives”

[@SteveNas530]

Thanks Jeff. Always great content and presentation.

[@jbenziggy]

I appreciate the kind remarks!

[@garycook2355]

Jeff, congrats on hitting 100k! 😎 💥

[@jbenziggy]

Thanks!!

[@swithinbarclay4797]

Sometime, Jeff, Sarah, it might be interesting to pay a visit to the Reed family graves, not far away from this one. James Frazier Reed, as you may know--or not--was a co-leader of the ill-fated Donner-Reed Party. After this horror, he recovered enough to become the first chief of the Constables Department in San Jose (now SJPD), and a Republican Party operative, helping to get his young friend from Springfield, Illinois, a certain Abraham Lincoln, elected President, to carry California for The Union. He died in 1870.

[@thewellsfactor]

Great stuff Benz!

[@jbenziggy]

Glad you think so! Thank you!

[@raccabird8889]

Awesome happy Sunday Jeff and Sarah

[@RR-wd8uf]

Love Your Videos Thanks!

[@murrieta49]

Viva Tiburcio Vasquez!!!! 🇲🇽 💯 ✊🏾👊🏾

[@buckwheatsofia]

Great story & video.I’m sure there were a lot of guys like him. Thank you!

[@davidsaldivar6735]

Thank you for making this video

[@debsmith1956]

Great job Jeff and Sarah

[@jbenziggy]

Thanks!

[@normahird9059]

Hi.... thank you for this well documented video. Sunday mornings always are special for me. Chocolate flavored coffee with a History Hunters video. For that I thank you!!!!

[@jbenziggy]

Thanks for sharing!!

[@dsanchez9703]

Thank you for your Work, I love these fascinating stories and fascinating History

[@dianejohnson7235]

It is hard to believe that business's could be named after a criminal! I learn so much from your channel!

[@toplarry]

They name libraries after presidents, same thing

[@dr.zacharysmith1207]

Courts,Federal buildings,State building are named after slave owners rapist genocidal murderers the list goes on and on !

[@R_J_G]

They name buildings after slave owners. You ok with that?

[@swansfan6944]

@@toplarry it depends what President you are talking about. Abraham Lincoln was hardly a criminal. He was a great man who was way ahead of his time.

[@swansfan6944]

@@R_J_G I’m sure she is not okay with that. Most people wouldn’t be.

[@martindriver6026]

Wow! What history Hunters brings out. I would of never known about this guy if it wasn't brought to my attention. In today's society some people want to deface and remove statues of famous people because of some of the things they did. Here you have someone that has buildings and schools named after him. A school in Bakersfield was renamed because it had confederate history back ground. There Mascot was a Rebel. But the city refused to rename the streets around the school that has confederate names. Things change only when convenient. Thanks for another nice episode of " History Hunters" you always do a good job.

[@eliasmd2003able]

To each is own. I'm not one to look to past times and pass judgment or try to change it. I can also see why he is idolized just like Jesse James or Billy the Kid. All in all thank you for the Video. Good job!

[@fawnpeterson2745]

Just wanted to say "hi", Sarah and Jeff. Steve and I met Sarah the other day as we were all waiting in line. We really enjoyed visiting with her. After we left, we realized we didn't introduce ourselves. Sorry!! We really enjoy your channel and have used your videos to plan some of our travels. Fawn and Steve Peterson

[@jbenziggy]

That is awesome! Sarah told me. I was actually sitting in the parking lot waiting for her and she told me about the encounter! Thanks for saying hi to her! Thanks for being good fans of our channel! Blessings!

[@daveforeman6931]

Great video and story- never heard of him before watching this.

[@stargater2892]

Great thinking/smart episode. As we say, there are two sides. I appreciated the teacher whose students can relate, was taking the cap off my pen when the author thought Vasquez was lazy. I out the cap back on, shook my head, and thought just because his siblings didn't see a problem? Not a good way to sell a book to me. *My favorite part was you stiffling a laugh over the romance books. That would have hit me differently if I wasn't giggling wondering if Sarah had something to say about that. She tickles me. Great episode.

[@whip-its_dad4239]

Great informational video for sure . My Aunt Remedios used to tell us stories about how we were distantly related to him . There used to be a marker just north of Gilroy that was marked as the spot he was hung next to a large tree I think ?

[@jbenziggy]

Vasquez was actually hanged at the gallows outside the Santa Clara County Courthouse in San Jose!

[@lornahardin4563]

Another great history lesson Jeff. A crook is a crook no matter how you look at it, and it amazes me how some people read into facts a different outcome and make them heroes.

[@gervas4935]

If you believe that then george washington was a criminal and a terrorist. The guy was rich had thousands of acres and 300 slaves. Yet he still didnt want to pay any taxes. Just like the rich today. Only the rich drinked tea back then. There was no need to go to war with the mother country Britain. It was expensive fighting the French and protecting the colonies. Were the british supose to pay for everything and the american colonies just have a free pas and not pay any taxes. If you consider Vasquez a criminal even though he was raising money to raise an army and free the Occupied states then washington would be a traitor, criminal, terrorist. By the way we would be better off being British.

[@Col-Hogan]

I hunt a ranch in Paicines that has been in the family since the 1850s. I’ve heard many stories from that family about Vasquez roaming that area. It’s great to hear more about him.

[@vasquezthegreat]

Nice, I’m looking forward to this one next Friday, actually don’t know much about him, learning recently..

[@JuniorWarrior4Christ]

Awesome story for sure! Thxs for sharing

[@AB-ye7bw]

Another great story! Well told.

[@jbenziggy]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@juanvazquez1026]

Thank you for such a wonderful information. I love history from everywhere but specially from Mexico👍🏼🤝

[@Tiger-Fang-22]

Really great history of this criminal. Jeff you have raised the bar once again.

[@clint32]

that's 100% RIGHT EUROPEANS, INVADIND MEXICO, UNPROVOKE KILLINGS THOUSANDS OF KIDS, AND INOCCENT PEOPE! F.... CRIMINALS!!

[@alexander1995s]

Criminal to white folks. Hero to people who lost their land.

[@joelhurley2678]

Thank you Jeff for a great story and thank you so much for sharing. Unfortunately people try to rewrite history on things and even though the facts are in front of them they try to change them later on. Anyway thanks for the story and enjoyed it.

[@pirate1970]

Very good episode. Also loved our Monterey Viejo Plaque of E Clampus Vitus.

[@johnpeddicord4932]

Enjoyed some of California history, Thanks

[@DougPoulton]

I always liked the history of Vasquez and how his name will be remembered forever by Hollywood. There must be hundreds of films made at Vasquez Rocks. A San Andreas Fault natural sculpture that cannot be found anywhere else.

[@CC-te5zf]

Wow - what a character! Learned a ton. Fascinating! It's amazing how history can be framed and people can come to worship evil people. Conclusion: Scoundrel. Thanks for another great episode. Thank you!

[@texasgina]

New subscriber I love your channel

[@jbenziggy]

Welcome!! Thank you so much! We have lots of videos you can catch up on!

[@robertvose7310]

Cool video and thanks...Millerton Lake- Have not heard that name in 30 years..

[@vikinggenie]

I have never heard of him. Interesting video.

[@vvarietyshow]

Such an interesting story!

[@terryeustice5399]

Jeff I never heard of him. This was very interesting. Thanks for bring him to life on your channel! ❤️💯

[@jbenziggy]

My pleasure!! Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@davidholley1702]

Fascinating documentary. I had never heard of him. Thanks, Jeff.

[@jbenziggy]

Glad to know we educated you about him!

[@jimbullard441]

Another really good video. I assume there's truth to all parts of his story -

[@manueldeanda9950]

We got an Tiberco Vasquez clinic here in Union City & there are five more in Hayward. Thank you for the histor, l never knew how he was

[@frankmcniel75]

I walked by that cemetary each day on my way to workback in 1980-83. I would occasionally cut through and read on the my way home some of the old headstones. On one occasion the curator came out and talked to me. Then he showed me around, he showed me the first governors grave, the oldest grave, even the underground crips, that was pretty cool. Our conversation and tour lasted about two hours, the tailend of it was about Tabircio Vasquez and Joaquin Mariette and his thoughts on the true identity of the bandit known as Zoro. He had done some research, and said Hollywood and history had it wrong. He said Joaquin Mariette was not an educated and wealthy gentleman, no he didn't fit that profile he was very proficient bandit but the description of his mannerisms didnt fit. The same description did fit Tabircio Vasquez just about perfectly his dress his mannerism and education not that of a bandit His grave was outside the cemetary fence and was marked at that time by a Palm tree as th convictions killer on hallowed ground nor a grave marker ourside the cemetary, so a palm tree that had been knocked over and torn out to expand the cemetary. Good to see they relocated and mark the the grave of the legendary. (Zoro) Tabircio Vasquez

[@wendywhite4537]

Cool. I’ll didn’t know that. Another forgotten piece of history

[@swithinbarclay4797]

The Vasquez Rocks are where a seminal episode of "Star trek" was filmed. Captain Kirk battled the Iguana-faced Gorn here.

[@CarlosHerrera-oh9ec]

Good morning Jeff.. thanks a lot for that history..as being a Chicano I hate to admit I’ve never known this history but I defiantly will look into it now..appreciate your hard work..

[@martinez209]

Zorro's character was based partly on Joaquin Murrieta and Vazquez.

[@miriamaguilar7977]

Same as if we let the international banking cartels come into our homes to destroy our savings and families.(Federal Reserve) Equation is about the same. Land was taken and appropriated during the time of Mexican/US transitional rule and some.

[@nealhathaway2004]

Good job!

[@jbenziggy]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@robertbiastre6037]

Had not heard of him but no matter it was a great story about him! Thanks Jeff!

[@Hugo-py2ce]

Vasquez fought against discrimination and racism against the racist whites back in the day, definitely a hero. I love this story, im sure there are a lot of great things about him that history doesn't tell. What angers me is the negative hits people will tell telling their own stories. Everyone changes a little bit here and there, i could only imagine how life was like back then. It was very hard specially for mexicans, racism and prejudices still go on today but things are changing little by little like they did for italians when they first came here. The laws weren't as tough as they are today and many men would break the laws including whites like jesse james and others that are seen as heroes when they were not. They also commited murders and did very bad things but are never talked about. Rest in peace to Mr Vasquez! Thank you jeff for telling this story, always look forward to watching your videos.

[@alanatolstad4824]

I'm always amazed at how you identify the topic of the day. The research is beyond what I could ever figure out!---Any idea of the why to the angle of his headstone?

[@jbenziggy]

I am only guessing that it's cocked to the side to be more visible from the interior street; or it's symbolic of how he lived his way on a tangent from regular normal folks.

[@frankmarullo228]

100 thousand great job guys

[@robertherrera1161]

What a character Pancho Villa like notoriety. Thanks for this info.

[@mattbrem3788]

Many of my Mexican friends were shocked they would name a school after Vasquez in our town. Many have tried to create a robin hood persona around him, though historical document and family testimonies reveal that was far from the truth . There are countless other upstanding and brave Mexican people well deserving of naming a school after.

[@nunyabiz6925]

Exactly

[@Catloudan]

"Many Mexican friends" LOL. Sure

[@jerrybrock5335]

Doesn't surprise me the college teacher would go straight to the race angle. Great video thanks.

[@mikewhite2aadvocacy172]

What was bad and evil is now good and what was good is now bad. I can only shake my head and wonder how we have gotten so turned around and if we will ever get back.

[@newlam7958]

There are quite a few interesting graves at Santa Clara Mission Cemetery. The Murphy family who were immigrants from Ireland are buried there and were early pioneers of the Santa Clara Valley and one of the largest land owners.. Martin and Daniel Murphy were the land owners of what is pretty much the city of Sunnyvale and part of Mountain View. Their large house was originally located on Saratoga-Sunnyvale road where it curves onto Mathilda Ave onto El Camino Real. Sadly, it was torn down in 1961. The last Murphy decendent lived there into the 1950's. There is a little ghost history with the family also. The former toy store located on the property, "Toy's R Us" is was believed to be haunted by an employee of the Murphy's. I forget the exact details, but a farm hand who was in love with one of the Murphy's daughters was accidently killed when he cut himselve with an ax and blead to death somewhere on the vast Murphy vast farm land. Employees at the store had toys mysteriously move off shelves, talking dolls would suddenly sound off, and employees would feel someone touching them when no one was there!

[@frankmarullo228]

Jeff is that rock the one they used in a Star Trek episode ??

[@johnnyquest9358]

I thought that too

[@jbenziggy]

Yes it is. We did a prior video on the Vasquez Rocks as a filming location!

[@frankmarullo228]

@@jbenziggy FASCINATING,,,,,,, well Jeff live long and prosper ! Thanks for the response Frank from montana.....

[@ralphpatrick3071]

Why was his grave marker turned, as you pointed out? It was the first thing I noticed.

[@marks6406]

Huell Howser would be proud (California's Gold ) RIP Huell

[@texasgina]

When I was married to my ex-husband we used to watch Californias Gold every week. I'm originally from Southern California

[@LuisAlvarez-pw2rl]

Amazing

[@jbenziggy]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@elainegottwald2878]

That was very interesting

[@msoden4920]

A great one, Jeff! I think you answered the question you posed- when looking at the siblings, his behavior was probably due to not wanting to work, which with his ranching skills, he most likely could have easily had gainful employment doing that. Also, I have a feeling he might have been a sociopath, which certainly could figure into the equation. Thank you again for all you do!

[@jayespinoza1034]

i suppose jesse james was too

[@msoden4920]

@@jayespinoza1034 probably so. Im fact there is much empirical evidence pointing that way.

[@susancarden749]

Another great story, Jeff. It is odd that his grave marker is at a different angle to the others, maybe it’s because of his criminal past, who knows.

[@WestCoastChicano]

I've never heard of him. It sounds like his story would make a gr8 movie. He reminds me of Joaquin Murrieta who supposedly is the historical figure associated with El Zorro. Gr8 vid as usual. 🎥🇺🇸 🇲🇽