The Major Players reveal themselves | Eddard 5 | A Game of Thrones Obsidian Nights Podcast

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

Thanks for Having me its always Such a fun time

[@VV-lf2tp]

I love iced milk but I’d definitely turn it down if Pycelle was offering it lmaoo.

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Yes!! I was having a bad day until I received the notification of this sweet summer juice

[@danybey4182]

Hey summer mother Today is just a great day my niece was born only an hour ago and i get a video from you today

[@GrayArea]

Congrats!!!🍾

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@@GrayArea thank you

[@whynotyvonne7569]

Congratulations Aunt! Enjoy her

[@roddammit5510]

You never disappoint, Ms. Gray. Always putting out that high quality content. Top Shelf combination.

[@nikkilove6283]

I have to admit I’ve been clicking on my subscriptions daily specifically looking for my Sweet Summer video. Thanks Gray for coming though! I don’t know what my weeks would be like without Obsidian Nights Podcast.

[@andreagillo768]

Favorite GrayArea quote; “Queens run this sh*t” 👸🏻👸🏽

[@mrexecutive1184]

Love your channel! Time to catch up

[@rianbeegles3349]

"It was the ninth year of summer, and the seventh of Bran's life." - Bran I AGOT So as we can see summer has lasted for 9 years in AGOT. Don't know how long the previous spring lasted though. However it was winter before the Tourney of Harrenhal, which took place in the year of the False Spring, and after the Tourney sometime the season got wintery again so probably right around the beginning of Robert's Rebellion. So I think that means the real spring must have lasted years too.

[@whynotyvonne7569]

I love you two together! Grand Maester Pycelle was always so oily. Makes you feel dirty just thinking about him. I would love to hear his backstory

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

Thanks for the kind words and I am with you I think it could be considered slightly machoistic but a Pycelle origin novella is needed

[@coling8992]

Thank you Gray for keepin on!!

[@johndoesutobexd8110]

Damn, perfect timing. I laying in bed sick, wondering when the winds of winter will come, thinking "damn, i wish I had some more obsidian nights to listen to" and then boom

[@redladie8528]

I know there isn't a grand maester POV but he says over and over again he's house lanister always house lanister so it is very odd he gave ned the book unless he really didn't realize the black hair thing in house baratheon

[@made-line7627]

Good point

[@JoniukasVader]

Gray Area!!!

[@Iclyde1231]

Been waiting to get off work all day just to listen to this! Thank you for the juice Gray! Love ya 😘

[@winterwolf7423]

That exchange between Arya and Ned is so interesting on so many levels. Since Ned tells her she will marry a king (rather than a lord like in the show), I always wonder if that is foreshadowing for Arya's endgame. Since Nymeria is named for a military princess who was the equivalent of a queen, that strongly suggests she could end up the same. Her refusal of that call seems to be the fact that she connects marrying a king to following in the path of Cersei and Sansa, which she's not interested in. The kind of queen Arya would be more closely aligns with Nymeria, Rhaenys, Visenya, Alysanne, and Daenerys. It's also interesting that Arya never asks if she can be a knight. She instead asks about the professions that Ned says Bran can pursue even though he is now disabled. Despite the fact that she's learning to fight physically, she asks if she can be a king's councilor, an architect, or a high septon. This shows how her dreams extend beyond martial pursuits into other careers.

[@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ]

Damn right, babe.

[@TheINSANATY]

There is a theory going around Quora that Jaqen, who Arya befriended in the books is actually Rheagar's and Elia's son Aegon, who wasn't swaped once, but twice, first by Rheagar and the second time by Varys and Illiryo, who shiped him to Lorath and replaced him with fAegon who is a Blackfyre. While Aegon, under the allias of Jaqen and now Pate, is cooking his revenge to expose both Varys and Illyrio. There are also way too many parallels between Arya and Jaqen with Rheagar and Lyanna, like swearing an oath under the Weirwood tree at Harenhall. From that I can see Arya being the Queen in the North or go with Jaqen some place far away from the politics of Westeros instead of a one night routine with Gendry wich the TV Series depicted.

[@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ]

@D D Agreed. It would be a betrayal of her character.

[@winterwolf7423]

@D D I don't see any basis for this. GRRM has created several female characters who, like Arya, defy the conventions of Westerosi expectations on women. Most of those women still have romance. Defying convention doesn't mean a character isn't able to find love and commitment. A list of warrior women/unconventional women who find love/romance/sexual passion in Westeros while defying expectations: Elia Sand, Alysanne Blackwood, Nymeria of Ny Sar, Alyssa Targaryen, Baela Targaryen, Daena Targaryen, Rohanne Webber, Obara Sand, etc. Not following societal restrictions does not prevent someone from finding love and commitment. There is no reason Arya can't marry when she gets older.

[@winterwolf7423]

@@Δ-Δ-Δ-Δ As I said in my response above, no. It would not be a betrayal of Arya's character to find love and commitment. Many women who don't fit societal conventions find love in real life and in the world of Westeros.

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Yes gimme muh juice, dear Gray!!!

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Juice Time!!!

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Yay! Some refreshing juice! Thank you for the content! 💓❤️💓

[@christopherbrown1391]

Thanks gray for another video awesome see you next week

[@xpanamito2117]

Thanks Gray for another great video as always

[@Divine_Chareka]

Anything from A Song Of Ice And Fire gets my attention always 🔥

[@SHARKVADERS]

GA!!!

[@corbinskywalker]

Gray Lady returns

[@slytherpuff1]

We once had a president die because on a hot day he ate a fuck ton of cherries and milk and ended up shitting himself to death. GRRM missed some historic inspiration there. But yes milk in heat just is awful

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

I dont wanna dismiss the sadness of this event but I got to say this insight is pure Gold lol

[@slytherpuff1]

@@TopShelfFandomVids it was the first thing I thought of when you mentioned puking up the milk. I think that President was only in office for like 34 days or something like that ? Jesus it has to of been pretty fucking hot for him to think it was a good idea.

[@GrayArea]

🤣😂

[@AlisiaBolivar]

My cat Shanaynay & i thoroughly enjoyed this episode!!! Thanks, Gray! 🐺

[@ashleyofnaath]

I see a lot of parallels between Littlefinger-Ned and Skahaz-Ser Barristan.

[@joelaverack]

Justin Thomas, you are now an Obsidian knight!

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

I am putting it on my Job Applications My linkedin shall represent my Knightly Status

[@christophertracy7136]

Tiwyn actually said am I the only one 2 see through this performance? Pycell definitely knew and that scene should've been in the show!

[@TheySt0leMyUserName]

I just took for granted that everyone knew how to play chess

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

I'm going to learn if u have any good video recommendations for starters let me know

[@traumer9622]

@@TopShelfFandomVids if you are still searching... in Germany there is a wonderful game called "Fritz&Fertig" that explains chess in a funny and clever way. The beginners edition is even for free online I just don't know wether there is a translation or not

[@DaisyKmua]

lol that milk and honey conversation. y'know what i think it's Pycelle that makes it gross, if my grandma said want some milk i'd be happy to :p

[@TopShelfFandomVids]

I was looking of pics of various Milk and Honey Drinks and besides the lactose intolerant thing and the heat which just makes it not ideal at the moment I have 2 agree it isn't gross lol Its him not the drink . I slandered Big Milk and I will likely pay dearly for it .

[@DaisyKmua]

@@TopShelfFandomVids Haha, listen if you're lactose intolerant you have a right to hate milk ^^

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

I grew up with hot milk and honey as something you drank when feeling ill, it was just a normal thing to do.

[@DaisyKmua]

@@Valkanna.Nublet oh ok I can see how you'd equate that with negative experiences! For me it's sleepovers at gramdma's and cookies and a blanky lol. Hot milk but still ^^

[@Valkanna.Nublet]

You misunderstand. I equate it with good things. Hot milk and honey was something caring and soothing, given to me as loved ones looked after me. It doesn't make me think of being ill, it makes me think of being loved :)

[@EPYHDA1]

Baelish assured that Ned would not discuss his suspicions with anyone. Quite brilliantly done: there is no way to tell whether there really were that many people spying on Ned, but by pointing Ned's lack of expertise Baelish deprived him of any alternative point of view.

[@GatosdeLaNada]

About chess, the queen used to be the vizier, a kind of arab commander, in the arab world that is the dude that is in charge of the sultan forces. When Chess travels to europe it hanges to Queen because there where no viziers.

[@rabenam]

Gray’s clever ;)

[@happygay8240]

39:47 LMAOOOOO 🤣😂🤣😂

[@christophertracy7136]

Ned just had 2 much honor unlike Sansa who used Jon's secret 2 make conflict with Queen Daenerys! Makes me sick how the North was so ungrateful 😔.

[@EPYHDA1]

Robert could have knighted Ser Hugh as a sign of respect for the memory of Jon Arryn, honouring someone from the Vale

[@charonpluto1085]

They call queen , Minister in many places and countries when they play chess!

[@EPYHDA1]

Pycell gave Ned the book, because he was sworn to serve the Red Keep, and Ned spoke in the name of the king. He had no idea, that a boring geneaology could lead anyone anywhere, and it did not with Ned. It took quite a bit of prodding and pushing by all kinds of people for Ned to figure anything out, at the long last. There was no special secrets contained in the book, and Pycell was not the only one who seen Jon Arryn with the book, so Pycell could not risk Ned mentioning to Robert that the grandmaester was breaking his vows.

[@iamsecond411]

Hey Gray! Maybe Pycell gave Ned the book because he didn’t want Ned to be hand of the king like Cersei didn’t want Ned to be HOTK. Hear me out. He knew that The book would lead to Ned finding the truth out and because Ned is honorable of course he would give Cersei the chance to confess her infidelity which would lead Cersei to retaliate and lead to the fall of Ned. Especially if Pycell knew that Cersei was working on getting rid of Robert. Helping her get rid of Ned would solidify his position next to the Lannister’s and allow him to maintain the power he had. Idk tin foil maybe and maybe I’m giving Pycell too much credit but I have a feeling this was a very smart and decisive move that Pycell knew would lead to Edwards downfall.

[@countbalerionofhousetatter2624]

Now I want to claim to be a Pycelle fan, just to be weird. Pyce-Man FTW!

[@jaimelannister1797]

I don’t get the hate. He’s a Lannister loyalist but like so many people are. I’ve only read the series once though. Maybe on reread I’ll dislike him more

[@traumer9622]

@@jaimelannister1797 I mean he is a pervert and he kinda (?) rapes Sansa and is always eith young servant girls... And also as a maester he technically should serve the keep he is in - so whoever holds power right now, but he clearly favours house Lannister. Still, I think you have a valid point

[@isabellamego5321]

As the series goes on, we see kl is actually a place where people keep poisoning each other

[@mrlivershot1]

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[@cherylbaxter8986]

Like Jon for instance his father had silver hair & mother had well I think Starks have brown hair an Jon has black hair

[@permiebird937]

Knighthood, in a place like Westros, is more about proficiency of skill of arms, as opposed to modern knighthood in the UK, where Knighthood has become a service award. Ser Hugh probably wasn't quite ready for Knighthood, but was Knighted by Robert because Jon Arran who was expected to Knight Squire Hugh relatively soon, had died. Robert probably took pity on Hugh and knighted him out of sympathy, because Robert was likely knighted by Jon Arran as a teen in the Vale. We know from the Alayne sample chapter that Knighthood can be given prematurely, because that is why Bronze Yon Royce set up a Squire's tourney specifically for Harry to win and get knighted, so Harry the heir could compete for Sweet Robin's guard. Between Alayne cursing Harry, and what happened to Ser Hugh, I would not put money on Harry at that tourney.

[@cherylbaxter8986]

Yes Arya an Ned are close an so much alike yes he see's Lyanna but she's bit different to Lyanna as Lyanna did find luv

[@traumer9622]

Arya is 9...

[@StannisHarlock]

Lovely lady Gray!

[@filbertrocko]

Maester Colman was there for sweet robin

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[@jmace2424]

Ummm no, Fandom Guy, the Maesters are not “from the Church.” That would we be the Septons/Septas. They are from the Citadel, basically the seat of academia like Harvard and Yale or Oxford and Cambridge.

[@neesaljohnson86]

Mitch McConnell

[@cherylbaxter8986]

Is Jon Aegon the 6th of his name

[@jmace2424]

Gray actually has a video saying his name is Aemon.

[@greaterFool3765]

I don't get why you think a never ending summer would be bad. Never ending summer would mean more food, less starvation, more people can do other things than farming. It's basically better in every way. I think "the song of ice and fire" means, that the just IS a balance of good and evil, not that good is also evil. It's more, that the song plays in every character, so there are no good or evil characters, but only characters that are good and evil. It's like in Star Wars, that the force tends towards a balance, but the Sith are just pure evil.

[@destinitaylor4360]

An endless summer isn’t all good if you think about it right? I mean sure it’s nice for all other parts in the world but what about the north and beyond the wall? Wouldn’t the wall be melting and the animals beyond the wall be struggling to survive? 🤔

[@TheSoldier0fortunE]

Well, technically the Queen was originally the Vizier and was changed when introduced to western audiences so...not that progressive lol.