Secrets of Valyria | The Myths and The Magic | Game of Thrones Podcast

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Thanks for returning or coming for the first time to check out Graycast, which is basically a Game of Thrones podcast. In part 2 of This huge Episode of The Game of Thrones podcast we will be discussing Valyria, The Valyrian Magic that was lost in the doom, Valyrain politics, The doom of the Valyria, Valyrian Steel swords and Glass Candles...The secrets of Valyia, Myths and Legends Much and More!
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@veryverte
@veryverte 6 жыл бұрын
I'm always blown away by how George RR Martin's and other fandoms are so complex and intricate that we can talk about them and speculate/analyze things as if it were a real world. It's like it exists detached from the author, but really this is all just coming from his head.
@EvergreenShotgun
@EvergreenShotgun 6 жыл бұрын
Not everyone is a fan of the long podcast, but I love them. My dream pod is Grey talking thrones ideasoficeandfire smokescreen LML and secret of the citadel. Subjects , who is AA , who will sit on the iron throne in the end, which Characters will survive . Make it happen grey 👍😉
@bonbonvegabon
@bonbonvegabon Жыл бұрын
The longer the better for me. I hate videos under 1 hour, like dont waste my time lol
@japsandhu8817
@japsandhu8817 6 жыл бұрын
'God you read so well, I love it!' - My reaction everytime you read a passage😆
@kingofdracarys3500
@kingofdracarys3500 6 жыл бұрын
Valerian/Targaryen history is really fascinating, they are no doubt the most interesting house in game of thrones.
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 5 жыл бұрын
The part about Dany learning sorcery from Asshai is amazing.
@GunninRebel55
@GunninRebel55 6 жыл бұрын
I love Idea's Of Ice And Fire and have for years now, but make no mistake.... Gray Area you're thee absolute greatest reader/narrator I have ever listened to, hands down!! This podcast is a treat tho no doubt! I appreciate the time and effort you all put in to deliver these to us ASOIAF/GOT fans.
@ashiaku9864
@ashiaku9864 6 жыл бұрын
Valyria + GrayArea = makes my day
@MapleSus-Syrup
@MapleSus-Syrup 6 жыл бұрын
I seriously can listen to you 3 bounce off each other all day. Awesome again
@Eshkanama
@Eshkanama Жыл бұрын
The biggest hole in the theory of the “Doom of Valyria” is the fact that, how did the Fourteen Flames erupt and then ALL the Valyrians and dragons are gone? We’re there not Valyrians or dragons and other places too? Why were they ALL in Valyria? How is there literally no other Valyrians or Valyrian magic or steel makers, like I find it hard to believe that they would ALL be there, and not expanded. Only the Targaryens? The Valeryons and Celtigars? That’s it? No way.
@Slechy_Lesh
@Slechy_Lesh 3 ай бұрын
They weren't, and at least one lord tried to go back to Valyria to try to reclaim it, but were never heard of again. And I think the Targaryens warred with the surviving Valyrians, to make sure they were all gone. Aegon the Conqueror warred in Essos, on Balerion, before he invaded Westeros.
@madyjules
@madyjules 6 жыл бұрын
“.. you want Balarion the Black Dread paving roads...” this has blown my mind I love y’all !!!!Gray 🥰thanks for introducing me to these amazing gentlemen Thank you Quinn and LML you both are ASOIAF Wizards 🧙‍♂️ 🧙‍♂️ Maddie
@Anna-dt7yg
@Anna-dt7yg 6 жыл бұрын
This podcast has blown my mind
@kokomungaidgaf3374
@kokomungaidgaf3374 6 жыл бұрын
Dude.... once again this is BOMBER shit.. wow... I don't even have TIME to digest all the information you guys pour into these pods but my goodness how amazing you all are ... this really HELPS the dark nights full of terror seem less dark and terrorizing.. THANKS because I KNOW as a history buff how much time and energy goes into researching and making sure it fits .. LOVE YOUR WORK!! Can we ask for you to get an EMMY for your work? You deserve it!!
@TheTam0613
@TheTam0613 6 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video! Thank you very much you all three of you!!! I have this semi formed idea that Dany may be the 3rd "cycle" of Valyrians, getting closer to justice. Like you all mentioned, the Valyrians were very evil. The 14 flames were almost giant godmouths that they daily fed human blood sacrifice into. Those slaves, especially in the very deep parts of the volcanoes, lived terrible lives full off suffering, pain and death. But I think there was more to their deaths-I think the Valyrians used dark magic as necromancy... So when those poor souls died, they were just brought back to suffer again, many many times. This is where the FM come in. Not only did they give the gift of final death, but I think that the Valyrians may have been not just using blood, but maybe stealing the souls of the slaves. That part sounds may be too Judeo-Christian, but like Berric and Stoneheart, they lost not their lives but their own...essences. Maybe that sounds better than souls. And the FM not only gave eternal death, but let them die without stealing their souls/essences. (Which may mean there was some more evil magic done that goes past necromancy. Maybe the souls fueled the 14 Flames or dragons themselves. Which means that R'hollor AND the White Walkers can both do similar things to the Valyrians. So maybe they're all evil in some gray way? The Targs maybe saw the true evil in what the Valyrians did to people, and left purposely without bringing that can of worms- so it could never be opened. But then they forgot, created their own selfish reasons for using their magic/ dragons against each other and they perished too. But Dany is here to break the wheel. The third cycle? I don't know. But it seems like something is causing the earlier people (whose names are lost in the annals) who taught the Valyrians, and then the Targs later on, to want to separate themselves from the rest of the Valyrians. And here is Dany. 3 is a very important number in so many religious texts, myths, cultures and such. Moon and pagan worship impress upon the Maiden,Mother and Crone. There's the Holy Trinity. And lots more. This isn't all my original thought, but me putting some pieces I've heard/read together in some (hopefully) cohesive idea. Anyways, thanks again for all you do and produce. Xx
@Storm_01
@Storm_01 4 жыл бұрын
First off I absolutely love listening to your podcasts, I love all y'all's work, opinions, thoughts, & takes....Huge fan of y'all I want to read the books so freakin' bad, honestly all the book information I do get or learn anything about is through y'all, podcasts, discussions, book reads, etc, ....since yes I still have yet to purchase & read the books....real life takes precedence as I am a mother, don't judge too harshly that I have yet to read them on my own.... My opinion though LML you didn't interrupt too often, besides it's a discussion, you're supposed to give your thoughts & views as well.... But I enjoyed both part 1 & 2, keep up the great work Quinn, Gray, & LML
@chasewatson5733
@chasewatson5733 6 жыл бұрын
Hey gray, I have been wondering about something and figured I would bring it up to you. I think you would do it justice better than anyone else. Melisandre told stannis when she believed he was the prince who was promised, “you will betray the men who follow you, you will betray your family.” Do you think that all these things she told Stannis were meant for Jon? He has betrayed the men who follow him by bending the knee to dany...could he betray his family next? Or was it just foreshadowing for stannis? She saw all these things in the fire that related to the prince that was promised, but she was telling the wrong person. It’s just interesting taking all she said and seeing how it’s relevant to Jon.
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
This question deserves a video! Video coming soon
@YourGraceMyLady
@YourGraceMyLady 6 жыл бұрын
Is that show only? I don’t remember reading that in the books?
@Rizztaxski
@Rizztaxski 6 жыл бұрын
Whoa! Great point! And from all the spoilers and such, this is very likely to be true. And it would be " bitter sweet"
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 6 жыл бұрын
I luv the Valyria topics
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Hasan Wilson Me too I cannot get enough!
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 6 жыл бұрын
GrayArea but your channel is geared more towards the Starks
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 6 жыл бұрын
The Valyrians have a Dragon's nature to dominate and Conquer
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 6 жыл бұрын
The YiTi-ish look Valyrian. I can get behind that
@madambutterfly1997
@madambutterfly1997 6 жыл бұрын
Would it be safe to say that the Daynes were apart of her clan who left early on before the fall
@heliopolitan444
@heliopolitan444 6 жыл бұрын
"...did they have some method of blocking a magic glass candle?" Like a... *Firewall* ?
@ShinyBusterBaby
@ShinyBusterBaby 6 жыл бұрын
LML brings up a fantastic point about why the Targeryens didn't bring the technologies of Valyria to Essos. The speculation of different houses having a different craft or skill, really puts me in the mind of feudal Japan. Japan's had stations and clans based on a social food chain. So, that would be mean even though was no figurehead sitting rule at the too, there had to be like a shogunate of leader a daimiyo of warriors (dragonlords and dragonriders) all the way down to artisans and merchant class. And what if, the Targeryens who were a lower house, were considered bottom rung and them leaving for Dragonstone was just taking what they could. I don't remember the Dooms approximation to when they left, but what if they did get some type of heads up. What if their was a recipe for when The was foretold to happen? Something that Daneys the Dreamer said. Or a certain time stamp of who would be there, in Valyria when The Doom was to strike. It certainly makes for a reason to suddenly, hightail it out of there.
@cameroncharles3294
@cameroncharles3294 6 жыл бұрын
ok Quinn...man u did that....wonderful reading
@bellarichards7753
@bellarichards7753 6 жыл бұрын
Omg been waiting for this pod, thank you so much.
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for listening! valyria is soooo interesting
@chinmaymarathe5
@chinmaymarathe5 5 жыл бұрын
so targaeryens were minor family. they moved to dragonstone after fake dream of a kid. before they left took only few valyrian special things. moved to dragonstone and built a castle there. we know that there is a mountain of dragonstone there. what if it was volcano of westeros and they used it for their own magical advantage and take down valyria in order to kill all competition and move forward with their idea of conquering the world starting from westeros. that volcano around which dragonstone was built is now cooled down and thats the mountain jon snow is mining for dragonglass.
@biancafunk5661
@biancafunk5661 6 жыл бұрын
Quaithe reminds me of Galadriel from Lord of the Rings. The elf witch. Both very mysterious characters.
@dreamdrypticpov1050
@dreamdrypticpov1050 6 жыл бұрын
I have a theory about Dany, I believe she is the amethyst empress reborn. I believe that Targaryens\valerian are descendants of emperor god on earth who ruled over the great empire of the dawn at the beginning of time. The emperor god ruled a benevolent world for 10000 years, he then made one hundred women he's wives and left to join his forebear in the stars. He also left his oldest son in charge who went by the name pearl emperor after him came the jade tourmaline onyx topaz opal than the amethyst empress. The amethyst empress was the last of the benevolent line, her envious brother cast her down and proclaimed himself the bloodstone prince , he's reign of terror and slavery began, the people knew sin for the first time. This was known as the great blood betrayal. Many say the bloodstone prince was the start of the long night as he practiced in blood magic the dark arts. Where does Dany fit into all this , we know that the valerians match the description of the old gods and we know Dany has had vision of the difference colour described to of ruled at the beginning of time, Euron also describes Dany as having eyes of amethyst. In my opinion in one form or another the original emperor god has returned to bring balance to the world of ice and fire, Rhealler was the last female valyrian alive at this time, so he impregnated her with his seed. we know Rhealler was unable to have children because all the miscarriages in the past and then Daenerys Targaryen was born amidst the greatest storm westeros had ever seen. The stallion which mount the world and the amethyst empress are the same person, her khalasar will shadow the earth once again as the prophecy suggests and she will take everything back from the bloodstone prince metaphorically speaking and order and balance is restored. Its not the first time a man has taken everything from a woman in reference to the amethyst empress and bloodstone prince, it happen in a dance of dragons too.
@victoriasantoro6692
@victoriasantoro6692 6 жыл бұрын
Thats nice and very interesting theory..also i think the AA/Amethyst Empress story are the same and the NK/Bloodstone Emperor are the same too..Maybe she is AA that will defeat NK/darkness with her Lightbringer[Jon Snow]..Makes sense..
@tristanyork9120
@tristanyork9120 6 жыл бұрын
The valerian are a weird bunch, but it's interesting learning about the history.
@bunchie7595
@bunchie7595 6 жыл бұрын
It’s like you read my mind! Been watching Valyria videos all day 😂
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Abigail Lucy I used a glass candle! ❤️
@bamamani1354
@bamamani1354 4 жыл бұрын
Valyria's least powerful house becomes the most legendary house of westeros.
@sim7159
@sim7159 6 жыл бұрын
I wonder what you guys think about Daenys prophecising that the Prince that was promised would be a Targaryen? If I'm correct there's a book called signs and portents which had Daeny's prophecies in it. It's as if the Targaryens have always known that there would be a promised Prince
@komal2020ju
@komal2020ju 2 жыл бұрын
Now with House of Dragon your theory is canon
@noble1825
@noble1825 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you gray, you uploaded this at the perfect time. Just about to walk out the door and pick up a pepperoni pizza and I see a new video pop up. I know what I'm eating my pizza to :)
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Awesome!!! Pizzaaaa and Game of Thrones = Goals
@yensid4294
@yensid4294 6 жыл бұрын
Great podcast! I just found Ideas of Ice & Fire yesterday & already watched much of his Dune content. Always enjoy LML. Hope you guys do more together either here or on Patreon. Interesting theory about the Doom being caused by the FM & House Targaryean being part of it. Could explain why they chose not to return to the east (it was part of the bargain) & instead conquered Westeros. LML, you have a quick mind & get caught up in the discussion. Sometimes when your brain fires fast you feel like if you don't say it, you will lose the thought. Jotting down little notes might help. That way you can allow the other person to say their piece & not forget what your train of thought (rebuttals) were. Just a suggestion :) It's unfortunate that your enthusiasm for the subject gets interpreted negatively :(
@JamaicaDiamond24
@JamaicaDiamond24 3 жыл бұрын
i'm going through all your videos lol. i think they should do a spin off series of Old Valyria. i think that would open a lot of gates in the GoT world.
@derekhammond6975
@derekhammond6975 6 жыл бұрын
Love ya Quinn, keep up the readings! But at 13:00 I believe you're wrong about Balerion's size causing the Targs to behave. Remember, Aenar Targaryen brought 5 dragons with him across the sea, Balerion was one of those five.
@Manwendlil
@Manwendlil 6 жыл бұрын
i find the history .or lack thereof of valyria quite intriguing.,
@IamAmericasDaughter
@IamAmericasDaughter 6 жыл бұрын
And that shows that Dany is a Dane. She is the descendent of the Amethyst Empress, the stars spoke to her, told her exactly how to wake the dragon. And they keep reminding her to remember who she is. She must know the truth. She will be worthy of welding The Sword of the Morning.
@lanestapp2
@lanestapp2 6 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this one was at the very end about the valyrians not going further. I always suspected the event at hardhome was when they tried to get slaves there and some skinchangers got ahold of a dragon or two. It seems logical based on the huge fires there and everything burnt.
@victoriasantoro6692
@victoriasantoro6692 6 жыл бұрын
I think Jon is the Lightbringer himself ...He is Rhaegar[AA]or Dannys[AA] metaphorical Lightbringer..NK may had known that AA has come for him and for to end his dark time on Westeros ..thats why he did throw the javelin at her and Drogon ..In S7 are hints that Danny is AA and Jon is Lightbringer..her metaphorical Lightbringer..She throw her sword[Greyjoys/Martels] in the EP2 in water[sea]by that broken[by Euron destroy Yaras fleet]..In EP3 she throw her sword[Tyrion and Unsulied] to the lions heart[Casterly Rock..the lions home]but get broken again [Loses Ollena Tyrel and the Reach by Cercei]..Then comes Jon Snow[the new sword]..and she falls in love with him [he with her]..and goes saves him in that wight hunt mission ..sacrificing her beloved child Viserion[nissa nissa],agrees to fight the NK and earns the the Lightbringer[Jon bend the knee and proclaim her his queen]..The story of AA in the show is HER story actually..Also the NK is worried about that because he also knows that Danny and Jon will bring to life ..the Last Hero/PTWP..That baby will be the symbol of hope and life..the Dream Of Spring and the Wolf pack that will survive when the Lone Wolf[Jon]dies during war ..and will be the ending of the Long Night and the death of the NK ..because death pays for life..Jesus type defeat Satan..Hercules defeat Hades or Thor defeat the Ice Giants..you know..that will be in the show..in the books idk..What do you think?
@blurpledragon2779
@blurpledragon2779 6 жыл бұрын
My Jolly Sailor Bold sounds good, but I want Jon to live.
@victoriasantoro6692
@victoriasantoro6692 6 жыл бұрын
Me too ..but we cannot do anything..The ending will be bittersweet ..Jon and Danny both die or both live...We all want Jon or Danny or both to live..but we dont know what will happen there.
@ntobekososibo2042
@ntobekososibo2042 6 жыл бұрын
Loving this new interactive feel and thanks for discussing glass candles!
@housetargaryen3508
@housetargaryen3508 6 жыл бұрын
Grey, Meera reed picked up a random sword in the cave in the episode hold the door S6/E5. Please rewatch that episode, I believe it's dark sister. There are also videos online regarding this
@katehartley2333
@katehartley2333 6 жыл бұрын
Araya mentioned Dark Sister in the show while speaking to Tywin.
@katehartley2333
@katehartley2333 6 жыл бұрын
S1?S2?
@kylotech5056
@kylotech5056 6 жыл бұрын
I could watch your videos all day 😍, that Jenny of oldstones/ghost of highhart connection, gurl "I got the chills", keep up the amazing work.
@kylotech5056
@kylotech5056 6 жыл бұрын
Also doesn't it feel like the same thing is happening with Bran, where it seems like he knows terrible things are going to happen, and though he might want to, he really can't stop/ has to let them happen, for the greater good. Like the more quiet Bran becomes, the more terrified I am for all the characters I've come to love so much, :-(.
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Good observation. Bran seems like another person. He’s so different
@ahlayastar8672
@ahlayastar8672 6 жыл бұрын
3 of my favorites together! Loving this series! More of this please!
@lesliemisaacs
@lesliemisaacs 6 жыл бұрын
The World of Ice and Fire says that humans came from the far, far East; maybe even farther east than Asshai. So it would make sense that if the dragons came from that area, the Asshai'i people would know how to train them.
@blurpledragon2779
@blurpledragon2779 6 жыл бұрын
Love these podcast, they do help get through this long night. Thanks
@MoJones9919
@MoJones9919 6 жыл бұрын
Yessss I'm saving this for my work shift 😍💯💯
@2angies19
@2angies19 6 жыл бұрын
You will fly could parallel/be intercepting a glass candle vision/ communication.
@sabrinakrisb4672
@sabrinakrisb4672 5 жыл бұрын
Damn the part about Qaithe astral projecting was so good!!!!! I hope we get more info on her
@tyydavillain6153
@tyydavillain6153 6 жыл бұрын
You're my Fav Game of Thrones KZbinr😍😍. The Valyria Podcast🔥,can't get enough.
@jazzearias3431
@jazzearias3431 6 жыл бұрын
Not only do you do great videos but you give me more awesome channels. I just MIGHT get it through the long night.
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
They have awesome content! Highly recommend them!
@lesliemisaacs
@lesliemisaacs 6 жыл бұрын
I read something the other day that makes me think the glass candles are to the Valyrians as the weirwood trees are to the Children of the Forest. Or were, I should've said.
@fIrE420911
@fIrE420911 6 жыл бұрын
Leslie M. Isaacs ??????????? Can you elaborate?
@harleywilliams9818
@harleywilliams9818 6 жыл бұрын
fIrE420911 you use them to look into the past, future or communicate across long distances.
@rubiesarefire3743
@rubiesarefire3743 6 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite show, with my favorite writers and
@rubiesarefire3743
@rubiesarefire3743 6 жыл бұрын
Performers . You guys are the best!!!
@johnathankinne3998
@johnathankinne3998 6 жыл бұрын
Bran the builder built Winterfell over a volcano. Most of Winterfell above ground expanded over the centuries according to Maester Luwin, but the above ground part of Winterfell still isn't as large as the crypts, the crypts are also of an unknown depth as well. It is rumored that the deeper levels have sunk in but that is not given from a credible source within the canon. This means that when Bran the Builder constructed Winterfell, 90% of what Bran the Builder is personally responsible is the underground complex we know as the crypts. The area around Winterfell is also full of hot pools and springs which are coming from some underground heat source. Yellowstone national has hot springs and pools all over because it has an underground super volcano. Volcanoes are not just a source of heat but a source of magic in this series it seems, which would make it a crucial place to be during the long night to make a stand against the Others, giving credence to the idea that the castle is named Winterfell ironically. Gargoyles also seem to be donned only on the oldest castles in Westeros like Winterfell, and a few other very old castles. The only castle in Westeros that isn't thousands of years old that has gargoyles on it is Dragonstone which is funny because Dragonstone was built by Valyrians. So the idea that pre-Valyrians (for lack of a better name) were all over Westeros long ago is plausible. The COTF probably remember these old pre-valyrians who built Storm's End and the Wall and Winterfell and all the other places said to be built by Bran the Builder. There is a lot more evidence of these people being in Westeros than I care to type about in one post. I also believe that Valyrian Steel can't be created without dragons, whether because dragonfire is necessary or because it is said that all magicwent out of the world when the last Drago, died and had probably been waning since the fall of Valyria and Valyrian steel needs to be made while there are living dragons in the world so the spells will work. The man in Quarth couldn't climb a ladder of fire before the dragons returned, nor could the glass candles be lit, nor did the spells used on wildfire by the pyromancers work, it only makes since that the spells used in valyrian steel forging be ineffectual as well. Any old magic remembered by the warlocks and the faceless men and the COTF will be able to be used once more as well. It was called dragon steel by the pre-valyrians because there was no Valyria to name it after plus it was probably known by these people that dragons were necessary to create the steel so they named it after them.
@lesliemisaacs
@lesliemisaacs 6 жыл бұрын
Is Craster a secret Stark? If so, maybe he's giving his sons to the White Walkers KNOWING that he's helping them build an army to help destroy Dany. The White Walkers have been active again for about as long as Viserys and Dany left King's Landing, which I have postulated is about how long it would take to have 99 sons. Didn't Craster tell Jeor Mormont that he had 99 sons? If you average 5 sons a year for close to 20 years....
@CC-yh2yq
@CC-yh2yq 6 жыл бұрын
Leslie M. Isaacs don’t the wildlings have the blood of the first men like the starks?In m that they definitely are related , but is Craster a Stark?Difficult to tell. The Karstarks have Stark blood too so he could be related to them and still have Stark blood. It’s a really interesting subject
@electrikjimmy608
@electrikjimmy608 6 жыл бұрын
great videos guys. I love listening about the history of the world of a song of ice and fire
@lisam4101
@lisam4101 6 жыл бұрын
Euron could be the reason Cersi’s uncle never returned from Valyra. It’s possible they were both in Valyria at the same time. Euron would have taken great pleasure at reaving a Lannister ship.
@Lily2U1515
@Lily2U1515 6 жыл бұрын
Aegon's crown would have been made after the Doom yes? was it just reforged from another item?
@briceslorene8760
@briceslorene8760 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mama
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Brices Coffiuer your welcome
@serlawrenceharlem6715
@serlawrenceharlem6715 6 жыл бұрын
She gourged on grief at Summerhall and Catlyn gourged on grief at Winterfell after Brans "fall". Idk. Good talk tho. Hello Lady Gray.
@docrobinsonjr
@docrobinsonjr 6 жыл бұрын
Nice G.A., I told TT you u2 should do a drop exploring and explaining all great houses in westeros history since I'm sure that'll get me thru the long summer night❤&✌
@ii-rf4on
@ii-rf4on 4 жыл бұрын
People hate those with power. Jealousy; for they do not possess power themselves.
@PunchianThe3rd
@PunchianThe3rd 5 жыл бұрын
Caught me up on the books. Thanx
@Girl-Interrupted
@Girl-Interrupted 6 жыл бұрын
Thank you for delving into all the Valyrian steel swords! Even though y'all left out Heartsbane! :-). I LOVE this podcast! Okay Okay may I AX you a question, GRAY!!! Do you still think the Iron Throne is Valyrian steel?? Cause you didn't mention it this time like the video you did back in April. If so, they should get to work melting the damn throne STAT and get some swords into some people's hands! We running out of time... One more thing: Ned tells Jon Snow the last time he sees him before leaving and later dying that the next time he sees Jon, he will tell him who his mother is and let him know more about her. Now since he is dead, I am a bit curious...where did Ned's body go after he was killed? I know they played with his head. Were they kind enough to at least send his body back to Winterfell to be buried in the crypts? If so, do you think Jon Snow will see Ned down in the crypts? And let him know who his mom is then? Do you think people will come from the afterlife to help in the battle? Cause that last line to Jon before he died seems like a big foreshadow that he will see him again in my opinion. Like how do you think Jon's visit to the crypts will go down in your imagination? Do you think it will happen next season? I am sure that a HUGE part of Season 8 has to have reveals happening down there. I mean it just has to. Winterfell has to be very very important in this defeating of the night king, yes? I think you may have done a Crypts of Winterfell video before but I've watched so many videos I can't remember everything in detail.
@ieatzebraarah
@ieatzebraarah 6 жыл бұрын
In the show when Meers arrives at the wall there is a sword on her hip that she didn't have before she arrived to the cave. I think it is Dark Sister
@AKWatchX
@AKWatchX 6 жыл бұрын
Great discussion my lady!
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Thank AK!
@therealottawasteph
@therealottawasteph 6 жыл бұрын
On the show, Arya talks about Dark Sister with Tywin at Harrenhall.
@parisLuvsdolls
@parisLuvsdolls 6 жыл бұрын
Such an awesome podcast! Thank you ever so...💋🐲
@bogantofan2420
@bogantofan2420 6 жыл бұрын
Egg son(Jaeheris) doesn't die during Summerhall as you claimed. But after Nine penny kings War.
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong son.. Eggs son Duncan died during summerhall. The one named after Ser Duncan the tall
@ironreed2654
@ironreed2654 6 жыл бұрын
Targ's had fused stone, Dragon stone Castle is made of it. And there is reference to them having glass candles also...
@krushpetty444
@krushpetty444 3 жыл бұрын
I would really love to know what the different jobs of the Valerian gods were supposed to be in the Valerian religion
@chihuahuasrule1175
@chihuahuasrule1175 6 жыл бұрын
LML sounds like Dr. Drew Pinsky if one is as half asleep as I am right now. 🤔😉
@kathybyrd1543
@kathybyrd1543 6 жыл бұрын
I 💘 the way he reads also 😍
@cameroncharles3294
@cameroncharles3294 6 жыл бұрын
hey Gray...this should have been a live stream with all you guys
@DavidLightbringer
@DavidLightbringer 6 жыл бұрын
well, we did basically record it live, but not streaming it love allows Gray to edit it down a bit so it flows better.
@cameroncharles3294
@cameroncharles3294 6 жыл бұрын
oh ok i see man...still really good tho.well done guys
@johnmontag
@johnmontag 4 жыл бұрын
You know that they took a min of 2 glass candles when leaving the free hold....
@rodneywilliams9870
@rodneywilliams9870 6 жыл бұрын
I love Your thoughts on G O T And your voice
@heir_born4108
@heir_born4108 6 жыл бұрын
Pure Gold!
@KasiaJakubczykHTbc
@KasiaJakubczykHTbc 3 жыл бұрын
Can you please explain the origin of the westerosi valyrian steel swords?
@ghoyos44
@ghoyos44 6 жыл бұрын
Well dany technically did do a blood sacrifice with burning the witch that killed her husband maybe not intentionally but was probably still consider a sacrifice hence why the hatching of the eggs was successful so I think the fire blood theory is right on point
@jnb9458
@jnb9458 6 жыл бұрын
Interesting stuff. I guess I'm more oblivious to Ice and fire folklore than I thought. Especially the events prior to A game if of Thrones. I did always think Targeryans caused the doom of Valerya. Also, I mostly always thought that the dragon Lords never really went up north because they New of the ice dragons. They're much bigger and that they could easily freeze even fire dragons. Let's say they spit -400F ice. Like in Day after tomorrow how the air was so cold it froze things instantly. Then all you have to do is hit it hard and shatter it. I think that's what's beneath Winterfell and Bran will warg it. Which is why a Stark must alway be in Winterfell. (Tinfoil af)
@dianecaballero7898
@dianecaballero7898 6 жыл бұрын
A Dire-wolf is also a magical creature....
@vinnieharper
@vinnieharper 6 жыл бұрын
Perfect timing.
@rbo3193
@rbo3193 6 жыл бұрын
Amazing...gets me through work everytime 😍....daysavers
@onejourney
@onejourney 6 жыл бұрын
★★★★★ Outstanding, thank you so much for sharing
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Thanks for listing
@midnightrose6868
@midnightrose6868 6 жыл бұрын
Great video! 😊
@tonyduplantier6327
@tonyduplantier6327 3 жыл бұрын
Y’all mention targaryans stopping at dragon stone , but remember Jon snow found the drawings of the night king and the children in the caves of dragon stone ?
@dedmotorhed
@dedmotorhed 6 жыл бұрын
What if Valerian Steel is Cursed
@chriscahill1005
@chriscahill1005 4 жыл бұрын
At 4 grams per person, you'd need at least 2,352 completely drained donors to make a iron longsword out of blood. That’s a lot of slaves just for a sword
@robthomas3968
@robthomas3968 6 жыл бұрын
If I was Brandon stark I'd look back in time and find out how to make valerian steel, I hope that happens in season 8
@lesliemisaacs
@lesliemisaacs 6 жыл бұрын
YES, GRAY! What you just said TOTALLY makes sense and is exactly what I said the other day! The White Walkers are the counterparts to the Valyrians and the Knight King wants to destroy the remaining Valyrians. Look who the Night King threw the ice javelin at: DANY, SITTING ON DROGON!
@kylotech5056
@kylotech5056 6 жыл бұрын
Leslie M. Isaacs yup exactly, Gray points it out in one of her earlier videos, I believe it's even titled what do the white walkers want; "that's the your dragon ass is outta here look" shit had me rolling, but it's true lol.
@kriskimber3366
@kriskimber3366 6 жыл бұрын
Throughout my second time watching game of thrones I kinda noticed something. So fire and ice are clearly important to the story for many reasons. I focused on the fire part first and I noticed that in tons of notable scenes, there's either like a fire pit or torch going. I feel like the lord of light is literally manipulating people through the fire. Idk it's probably crazy but anyone let me know what ya think
@laymanlogic
@laymanlogic 6 жыл бұрын
I think some of Targaryens could see visions of the future. I think it is this the drove the Mad King mad. When he was shouting burn them all perhaps he was seeing the army of the dead.
@blurpledragon2779
@blurpledragon2779 6 жыл бұрын
Talut Abdulaleem exactly
@blurpledragon2779
@blurpledragon2779 6 жыл бұрын
Maybe the dragons exist to get rid of the others?
@trotz75
@trotz75 6 жыл бұрын
Thats like saying that only a few andals knew how to make Steele
@skylerjohansen2247
@skylerjohansen2247 6 жыл бұрын
What if it wasn't slave sacrifice to pay the price of Valeryan technology, but rather dragon sacrifice? Dragon lights the flame then is killed and it's blood is the sacrifice. That would explain why the Targaryens wouldn't have access to it as well.
@frenchsterr
@frenchsterr 4 жыл бұрын
How come I’ve never seen this.. holy shit
@robinelemans2373
@robinelemans2373 6 жыл бұрын
Where can I find part 1?
@kathybyrd1543
@kathybyrd1543 6 жыл бұрын
Summer Hall was a blood magic act by accident like deanerys did when she woke the dragon he brought magic back with the birth of Rhegar
@Peeachez
@Peeachez 6 жыл бұрын
What if Varys has glass candles
@dratheart
@dratheart 6 жыл бұрын
Also, power corrupts! And absolute power corrupts absolutely. Dany is already too powerful and I worry about her - we're safe for now though since Dany is wandering the Great Grass Sea alone with a case of really bad diarrhea...
@scottofgreywaterwatch1298
@scottofgreywaterwatch1298 6 жыл бұрын
Maesters: Shady ass mother fuckers. Lmao. Quinn that needs to be a T-shirt lmao
@lesliemisaacs
@lesliemisaacs 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that when the Doom of Valyria happened, something similar happened in the Northwest, i.e. the Lands of Always Winter? The same kind of cataclysmic or environmental event?
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure but do u know what’s odd... where the white walkers live is called the lands of always winter and where the Valyrians lived is called the lands of long summer. Coincidence?
@iambecomedeafdestroyerofwords
@iambecomedeafdestroyerofwords 6 жыл бұрын
Hey Gray just chillin eating breakfast, yup breakfast, I know it's 1:37pm here but I'm soooo eggscited!!! Question: Are we bound to sweet summer chilrin' or could we maybe call ourselves Gray Walkers? just askin! As always love your streams and your thoughts on my fav TV Show. Love.Peace.And.Bacon.Grease😁
@GrayArea
@GrayArea 6 жыл бұрын
Sweet Summer wolf pack? 😂😂🐺 What ya think??
@iambecomedeafdestroyerofwords
@iambecomedeafdestroyerofwords 6 жыл бұрын
GrayArea Hmmmm compromise? Sweet Winter Wolf Pack? maybe? I mean we are in a long winter at the moment😀
@vinnyvalentino1979
@vinnyvalentino1979 6 жыл бұрын
What is the name of you’re podcast?
@truth-seeker331
@truth-seeker331 6 жыл бұрын
Is a astrolabe not a gyroscope. You all of my favorite bloggers.
@truth-seeker331
@truth-seeker331 6 жыл бұрын
Are
@skylerjohansen2247
@skylerjohansen2247 6 жыл бұрын
Is it possible that the Targaryens DID have the technology but it was dragon blood sacrifices required instead of human sacrifices? That would also explain the Targaryens not using the technology because they needed all the dragons they could get, even the unhealthy ones.
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