GRAYGUNS HK Short Reset System for HK P30 w/safety install

[@inustaY]

Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for doing this video. Finally installed the kit on my P30LS and it's working great.

[@JPMNRB]

` Man, I just did mind is awesome with my P30 V1 LEM

[@AmnJoker333]

Awesome video! Really helpful for installing the kit in my P30S. I, too, opted to keep the original firing pin block spring. Mostly because the spring that came with the kit is somewhere in orbit with all of the AR detents that I've launched over the years.

[@teller1290]

Just sent mine to Langdon Tactical. $200 and new trigger and tritium night sights. It only took 2-3 weeks for them to do the work. I had it done about six months ago. Very satisfied.

[@navyman8903]

Damn. Hopefully you get it back soon.

[@teller1290]

@@navyman8903 I'm sorry for my very unclear post. I'm going to edit it. I meant to say I've already gotten in back about six months ago and that the work only took 2-3 weeks. Very satisfied. I don't usually post that incoherently.

[@navyman8903]

@teller1290 no problem. Thank you for the clarification.

[@kf4zra1]

I performed this job exactly as instructed here, however, the gun would no longer work in single action. When I found your follow up video, you mentioned the sear pin needs to be replaced with the longer one for this problem to be avoided. On my P30L V3, they refer to this piece as the "release catch and decocking lever". If you could just add in the part about removing the sear/release catch and decocking lever and showing how to swap you the pin in this piece with the longer Gray Guns version at approx 5:50, the video would be perfect and take all the confusion out of this fairly simple upgrade. For some, like you, the pin swap was not necessary, however, my gun would no longer work in SA without it. Thank you for your hard work on the video, it was very helpful!

[@darylkirby460]

When you describe the Sear pin, which pin is that exactly?

[@lakerrob5514]

Took your advice and installed the full kit. LOVE IT! Huge difference, I highly recommend it!

[@stackhouze7860]

I wanted to thank you for the time and effort put forth to produce this video. I just installed the same kit on my p30 L.E.M. model.

[@ellijahsmith4445]

Reading on forums apparently Bruce from Grayguns said you MUST install that sear roll pin in the kit as it’s a little bit longer and allows the kit to run reliably and not fuck up your firearms.

[@gsyoung54]

I didn't put it in and I don't know what Bruce is talking about because it makes no f'ing difference if it's a little longer. The original works and there is nothing in a pin that is a little bit longer that will do Anything... its whole purpose is to hold the firing pin and maybe that not square cube looking thing that holds the new lighter spring in place.. Sigs are similar. Mayhe Bruce just wants to make sure we all use the roll pin because as the author of the video says.... some roll or rolled pins may loose their tension with repeated use. I haven't found that to be the case either. It's not like a crush washer on an AR or a crush washer on automotive and airplane spark plugs where you really should replace them if you took one off.

[@ellijahsmith4445]

gsyoung54 there is a forum post where Bruce from gray guns responded explaining why the pin is necessary for the gun. Again it’s your gun and your money so do as you will. But it took me an extra two minutes to knock out the old and install the new. Maybe it does something or nothing but why bother risking it.

[@gsyoung54]

@@ellijahsmith4445 I forget what I wrote but I did install all the parts and it works very well, especially in SA off the reset! DA pull is definately lighter but when I pull slow it's like I feel some unevenness.. Obviously we don't pull that slow on a DA first pull if you carry that way but I was curious and my name is George so go figure! 😂 I just put another Grayguns kit in a Sig P320 carry... really helped but I think I'm a hammer fire guy... except for the almost unbelievable until you try it PPQ M2 45 trigger. I need to get a Walther 9 but I'm betting they have an excellent striker fire trigger also. Even with the Grayguns kit the 320 is no match for the PPQ M2.

[@ellijahsmith4445]

@@gsyoung54 The only thing i did not replace was the firing pin safety block spring as I didnt feel like it would make a difference in the trigger honestly. I really love the reset esp since someone like myself with small hands has a hard time with HK triggers on the P30 and USP series. I put the SRT kit in my P30 and just a few days ago picked up the P30L variant.

[@shinigami1925]

Dead wrong. The pin is 100% necessary in order to ensure 100% reliability in all tolerance variations of the firearm. It wasn’t a whim.

[@robertmiller5029]

Outstanding! Thanks for sharing your experience installing this kit. I saw that GrayGuns was offering these, but was not familiar with the inner workings of the P30. The cost seems a bit pricey for me, but they most likely spent many, many hours of R&D to get the exact configuration that would work reliably. Would love to do this upgrade to my P30s and USPs; in time perhaps. I've installed SRT kits and GrayGuns triggers in a few of my Sigs, but the HK mods seem a bit more 'involved'. Always enjoy your videos!

[@SpicyRok7482]

GreyGuns is HIGHER than a cat's back, but that is the price of H & K admission.

[@fatelvis500]

Ordered mine the night I saw your video. Finished the ez pz install today. Waiting to go to the range. Thanks.

[@chadwickwicky67]

andrew diggs hey is yours LEM by any chance? Also what kind of real time reduction do you think you got? I’m pretty excited to get mine in!

[@fatelvis500]

@@chadwickwicky67 I have the v3. The reduction was substantial. Love it. Now granted I had around 4k through the pistol already, so it was well broken in.

[@chadwickwicky67]

andrew diggs sweet! Thanks, That’s encouraging, I can’t wait to see/feel the difference!

[@eminkuliyev3716]

16:35 - what have you done there, exactly?

[@navyman8903]

Removed the firing pin block so I can remove the firing pin.

[@85montie]

Awesome, Thank you! Reading a blog, others have run into reliability issues when not replacing the sear pin with the longer pin. I can't wait until they get these kits back in stock.

[@ronin6016]

Great video, good instruction, HK P30 V2 LEM owner, will get Gray guns kit, thank you very much for sharing

[@charleslowrey9309]

Installed the SRT in my P30. I am amazed at the difference. I was about to get rid of my p30 because of the crappy trigger. Took me looking up the sear to figure out where the pin went. Drilled a small hole in 2x4 to support the sear while driving the pin out. Went back easier then it came apart except for the trigger spring pin. Took a few times. Thanks for the video. The only decent one out there.

[@chadwickwicky67]

Thanks again for the vid! made it more comfortable to get into it for sure. Got mine the other day and put it in, I went ahead and put in the sear pin as well. I’m very happy, makes a sweet trigger perfect in my opinion. Shortened my reset by almost 40% definitely a must have!

[@Aaronaku]

woot woot, just finished installing this following your vid, its functional in dry fire, now to test live and with the +p to see if the comp works

[@Peenurpool]

Excellent video. Thank you for putting this up. Your wife will be pissed when she finds out where all the Q-tips have gone 😎.

[@navyman8903]

Also yes lol

[@nolatone]

I just bought a P30SK and the hammer spring block has a keyed latch instead of a roll pin which makes life easier.

[@SpicyRok7482]

I am pretty sure the "pin" in the trigger kit was to be used. It may be slightly longer than the "pin" in the sear/decocker.

[@navyman8903]

You are correct, I did correct that later in the video and in the following 1K round update vid.

[@SpicyRok7482]

@@navyman8903 X-cellent! And now you have a much-improved "trigger reset" ( distance )?...Albeit at not so cheap a price...but hopefully worth it. I am looking the convert my 45C to LEM. NO kits in stock. Prices from $120 - $150.

[@ltccherno2536]

I’ll be picking this up, but leaving the spring stock. It looks super smooth.

[@tomb427]

I wanted to say thank you, This video made the job easy.

[@madacro5671]

I surprisingly lost both hammer spring bearing and firing pin block in the same install, and managed to find them both in a unusually messy garage! P30 LEM may be my unicorn!

[@jj2am44]

I watched the video and did mine. The hammer would not release in SA mode. DA was OK and the decocker worked. Installing the pin that came in the kit solved that. Launched the hammerspring pin into the next galaxy, though.

[@billhoffert1670]

WTF? Why wouldn't you show the WHOLE process of how this is installed!! You left out a MAJOR step in this whole process, and that is that you have to put the longer pin included in the set in the Release Catch and Decocking lever!! I followed your video to the letter about 20 f#!king times, tore it apart, put it back together, and the trigger still wouldn't engage! That's kind of the whole point of a gun, the ability to fire and all! Please update this video to include the WHOLE process.. It's an awesome video, super detailed, easy to follow, and that's why I believed in it so much... it's confusing AF when you leave out such a key component to the gun being able to properly fire!!!!

[@PJ-mj1hy]

I'm about to do this install. Any tips or links to help me do this? I'm not even sure which pin I need to replace

[@Aglai76]

Will this work on a HKp30sk v3?

[@broot1375]

I noticed when you were installing the hammer spring that you had the hammer in the cocked position...if possible I would suggest doing that with hammer uncocked as it might relieve some of the pressure on that spring. I dont have a p30 so im not sure if that is possible or not but that is what I do with all my hammer pistols.

[@gsyoung54]

Thanks Dolphin... I just used this video to do a Grayguns SRT and lighter spring to my HK45T as I couldn't quickly find a specific video for the 45 and your parts are identical in name and same general shapes. Just shot it and it works great, especially in SA and reset mode. I may put the orginal spring back if the trigger assembly does not smooth out as it's a little stagey with the lighter spring and I don't have another HK45 to try side by side.

[@chaddjames5105]

I have that same punch kit and just installed this a few months ago as well! I didnt see the sear role pin on the schematics diagram of the p30 though so I didnt replace that either. 0 issues so far

[@JPMNRB]

I wanted to thank you for making this, I able to successfully upgrade my trigger. Again, thank you so much!!!

[@john-y128]

You needed to install the longer [GG supplied] roll pin on the Sear to allow the new [GG Control Latch] to 'work in disengaging the sear', in addition to the hammer block doing the same. ref: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g6OYn4SrZ9ZmapY explained at 14:30 min, the new longer 'roll pin' didn't look all that hard to replace 12:50 min, despite McSpook being all thumbs during his video.

[@hendrix923]

Thank you for posting this, was looking for this specific info for over a week.

[@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017]

His wife doesn't like him dry firing in the house. Lol.

[@QwikKota]

All thumbs, hah. I only launched the hammer spring retainer across my workbench once. The sear pin is not hard at all. The spring retainer pin is probably the only part that's a pain.

[@MoonerBros]

Realy appreciated. Swapped all in 20 min after watching this. Also thank you for the comment of the sear pin.

[@FirearmTutorials]

You need to get the hockey puck thing for pushing those pins out. Works really well.

[@SpicyRok7482]

He has one...its colored blue.

[@glantern55]

Around 18:50 when he changed the firing pin retention spring.... what's double action stacking?

[@williamED15]

This was a huge help thanks! Did this on my p30 and my hk45

[@apachepjh]

the hole in the bottom of the slide that you weren't sure about is for water/debree evacuation for the firing pin. Think (over the beach test)

[@akmjolnir-v4r]

Is this P30 install for the Gray Guns SRS pretty much equivalent for the USP45 SRS install? I'm searching for a basic install video/instructions (thanks Gray Guns) but haven't seen any. I used your USP Match trigger install video, and it was pretty helpful.

[@Gun_Dae]

Reinstalling the hammer spring would have been a lot easier if you let the hammer go forward.

[@navyman8903]

You're absolutely correct there. Did you have to replace your sear pin?

[@Gun_Dae]

@@navyman8903 I dont know if it was necessary but I did so anyway because Gray guns said the new sear pin is slightly longer than factory which is necessary for the kit to function. Funny thing is, I made a similar mistake you did with the pin but instead of thinking it was a firing pin block spring I thought it was the pin for the hammer so I ended up taking the gun apart further than I had to lol. It wasnt until closer inspection that I realized the decocker also doubled as the sear. The only part I didnt install is the firing pin block spring because I already have a lighter weight firing pin block spring installed already.

[@gsyoung54]

I ahouid have read all the comments before I put my kit in! Good observation... as Dolphin said it's a bit of a beyatch doing it the other way.

[@babagermany6654]

Thank for the video. My only concern is you left out certain parts of the job (picture frozen OR skipped the part all together), I am sure if this to comply with youtube requirement or some other reason but either way it made the presentation incomplete for an issue that is so crucial as it involve firearms. Could you do update the video to cover those areas, also there were sections of this video where the gun and what you were doing was out of the camera field of view.

[@jonathanfrost944]

Excellent video. Thanks for doing this. Even with the video I am afraid to do it. But may have to try it.

[@GunGlutton]

Do you know of any good HK gun smiths that could remove the uncomfortable groves from the inside bottom of the trigger guard?

[@duaneolson316]

I just used a small file to remove it.

[@gsyoung54]

Mr. Dremel worked for me, I guess I'm too impatient.. but remember the trigger frame is just plastic so no high speed or carbide cutters. I use one of the fine or very fine sanding wheels and then polish with a cloth wheel and a little rouge (If I spelled that right).

[@oddyseus91]

That is awesome news. I hope these will work in conjunction with v4.1 LEM. The long reset is my only real complaint for the gun.

[@SuperMrBguy]

nice video, btw when you said zero issues i thought you where saying it isn't zeroing but then i realized that made no sense lol

[@Tarsarian]

If HK would do a little more finish work on the trigger components they would sell so many other firearms. I think for what they cost, it't not out of the realm of profit margin.

[@bluegunner4719]

So pumped that grayguns put this out! Will it work on LEM p30's as well? Looking forward to your update!

[@navyman8903]

They make specific kits for each variant. One for V1/V3 non safety and one for the safety.

[@kokurothegreat70]

just a humble idiot but wouldnt uninstalling and reinstalling the lockout mech work a lot better with the hammer down to take off a lot of the spring tension? idk if its different on the 30/L but on my 30sk it works like a charm

[@slashnagy6]

Would you recommend replacing the firing pin with a titanium one? Do the listed benefits really warrant a switch out? Curious what your thoughts are on this

[@MrSeannicholas123]

the idea behind a titanium (read lighter) firing pin is the concept of reducing lock time. The idea being that the Round will be detonated faster than with a standard firing pin. Faster meaning literally thousand of a second which is kind of moot! added to that, 98+% of shooters do not and will never shoot a rifle (much less a pistol) well enough to justify the cost and time of installing a titanium firing pin! I hope this comment was insightful in regard to your question.

[@slashnagy6]

@@MrSeannicholas123 it was! Thank you very much

[@betlogenako7193]

Nice video,is this the same proccess on p2k?

[@navyman8903]

Should be yes.

[@CR055H41RZ]

DevilDolphin? More like, _ASMR_ Dolphin, HA..! ..I'll show myself the door

[@Moribund_art]

The drop in part wont let the hammer drop , if I put the old part back in it works just fine. Not sure what to do

[@jameslindbloom2615]

I cannot remove the firing pin nor the firing pin spring on my P30 SK with trigger but I was able to remove the safety plunger and spring. The firing pin seems pinned but I don't see any roll pins. I must have missed something?

[@Themichaelwesten]

Thinking about snagging one for the P2KSK V4, have you tried it in a P2000?

[@navyman8903]

I have not, but I'm sure you will have the same level of success with the P series guns sharing a trigger mechanism.

[@juanriv01]

Great video!

[@navyman8903]

Thanks. I do what I can.

[@dirksaerens416]

I don't see any difference in reset after installing the grayguns kit...?

[@squircodile482]

It looks like your grip side panels are not captured within the grooves. I had the same problem initially until I realized they were dove tailed.

[@ayowser01]

Is there a reason you didn't replace the sear pin?

[@cr0ttych0p]

can you just install the short reset trigger and not change out anything else?

[@HK_roller_delayed]

Hey Dolphin; I just picked up a 9mm P30S V3 a few days ago, and I'm hoping I can remove the manual safety and have a decocker only. I was hoping since you're the resident expert on modern HK pistols, perhaps you know if that's possible, and if so, what that would entail? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[@93brawler8]

Glad you did this video. I just picked up a P30LS used for a good price and my only issue was the reset so I'll be picking up the kit. Until I get more trigger time on the P30 I will be still carrying my VP9. Do you still carry your VP9 if so what holster I'm not happy with my current holster setup.

[@eje9505]

Very good piece of instruction DD... I am a very green novice at disassembling my HKs (P30s and VP9)... but I am tempted to take the DIY steps per your step by step vid here. Got the GG kit already and planning to install into my P30SKv3 -- all by myself. From your vid I think the hammer spring looks like the only "wrestle" -- but someone here suggested moving the hammer to enable more easier spring and spring lock reassembly... tis True? Got any other suggestions?

[@fearnonebutone4977]

So, two questions: 1. On the P30, would you prefer a TLR-1 U or a surefire X300-B? 2. Do you know any certified HK guy that I can send my p30 for this install? I don’t want to do it myself.

[@Esko_Vasya]

This kit or a match kit for a USP?

[@slntscpe]

Will this work for the hk 45 expert?

[@61zulu77]

Does this reduce the trigger reach?

[@darylkirby460]

I installed this kit on my P30S 10 times and it wouldn't release the hammer after reset. It shortened the reset significantly but if it won't fire, it's worthless. I reinstalled the original control lever and it operates perfectly! Any ideas?

[@darylkirby460]

Never mind, I was able install the sear pin which was included in the kit and it works fine now.

[@ivanvega2821]

Would you recommend doing this to a EDC handgun? I have a p30 lite LEM and I’m very tempted to do this install, just wondering if it will cause any reliability/safety issues. I carry Appendix style so last thing I want to do is blow my @#%$@& off. Great video man! Cheers!

[@navyman8903]

So this P30LS is a carry gun of sorts. I rely on it heavily. Now as far as a light LEM I would say yes as I've got a thousand rounds through this setup and counting now. But I haven't directly tested it yet. I plan to install it on my P30L V1 as soon as I can buy a kit. They sold out before I could snag one sadly. But as of right now yes I do.

[@gsyoung54]

I did and do carry it. The double action, while it does feel smoother and lighter is still way enough poundage that you will really want to have to shoot your gun if you carry with one in the chamber, safety off like I do... I've aways liked DA/SA and actually wish I could get my HK45T with no safeties at all. I shoot well with the LEM triggers, just reminds me of every other polymer gun striker fire with regards to the trigger.

[@ivanvega2821]

gsyoung54 I ended up converting my HK 45 and 45c into lite LEM. No regrets... superb trigger. Took me a little while to get used to, coming from a double single and Stryker fired “guy”. Lite LEM is a winner on these guns lol

[@gsyoung54]

I guess I need another HK to try.. what a shame! 👍

[@gsyoung54]

@@ivanvega2821 Now you have got my attention... just finished at HKUSA's page and reading forums and a lot of people like the V light that you put in... so how would you describe the teigger pull with the hammer down? And subsequent actions of the LEM light? Does firing off the reset feel like firing of a DA/SA reset?

[@scottpitts3966]

Was that a stock HK45?

[@duaneolson316]

Would it work on the p30sk.

[@johnm8787]

Duane Olson Just installed on my P30SK V3 (without Safety). Absolutely love it. Reset is about 30% shorter.

[@vladimirbank390]

impossible to disassemble the striker P30SK

[@minnesotanice369]

Process for p30l decocker ?same

[@maxkinney3402]

Someone help! I did this but (listen carefully) When I pull the trigger and hold it, while holding the trigger I put the safety on, then let go of trigger Now safety is rendered useless and will fire every time. Very familiar with guns too but what did I do wrong?

[@lalocster788]

Is the safety supposed to work exacly like before?

[@navyman8903]

Yes. Check the springs and make sure they're good to go. And did you get the kit for that model?

[@lalocster788]

@@navyman8903 yes i did i got the one for the safety i have the exact ome you have when you mean clip are you taking about the clip in the mag catch....THANK YOU for taking the time to reply brother!

[@lalocster788]

Hello and thanks i acrually sent the my firearm to grayguns and they told me they didnt understand why the safety changed....is it possible that you can make a quick video of how the safety worked prior to the install and how it worked after....Please Help.

[@navyman8903]

@@lalocster788 My safety works the same as before. I'm honestly not sure what you're asking me. You might have had something fall out? I'm not sure how the safety wouldn't be working.

[@lalocster788]

@@navyman8903 ok so before i installed the kit the way it worked was when the safety was on and i put preassure on the trigger their would be no movement of the hammer....after i installed the kit when the safety was on id apply preassure to the trigger and the hammer would travel back slightly...is that how its supposed to work? Thanks for the response i hope im not imposing.

[@malcolmmartin3027]

I tried doing this on a p30 v1 lem i get two resets and some light strikes help!!!!

[@5jjt]

Did you get it fixed by now?

[@Tox927]

Well done sir.

[@พิพัฒชัยวายุพัฒน์]

Want to know where to buy? Please introduce me. Thank you very much.

[@sharpsvilleBill]

Poor parts placement under the camera while removing/placing parts and off-camera work kinda defeats the purpose of the vid, does it not?

[@moereece5732]

Nice job, subbed

[@crey5561]

Yasssssss!

[@navyman8903]

I hope everyone is excited as you are lol.

[@crey5561]

DevilDolphin I’m currently “furloughed” right now so I have no choice but to be overly positive about everything lol Plus I really like the content of this channel.

[@navyman8903]

@@crey5561 Thanks and I'm glad I can bring you a little happiness. Hopefully this stuff gets sorted out.

[@RP-fitfisherman]

Do not follow these instructions without reading down several of the comments...You must install the NEW sear roll pin on the decocker... It is NOT shown on this video.

[@evanmassey9071]

I had to use a mallet and excess force... lol

[@shinigami1925]

Just read a long thread about this on P-F and realized what a train wreck you caused by misidentifying the sear pin, and refusing to install it initially. You really caused un-needed damage to the reputation of this kit.

[@aaronlittlefoot]

Let me shoot the hk45 while you do your testing on the p30

[@Anonymous-iq3kc]

Wow. This video makes it look complicated.

[@ccopperpot5688]

Why are u taking half the gun apart ? Absolutely no reason to to take hammer strut/spring out, pull the hammer and all tension is released…

[@stealth916]

Thumbs down as soon as I saw him start removing the hammer spring without decocking the hammer. Seriously wtf

[@jamesm2889]

14:40 lol

[@mwizardm13]

Camera work is pretty sloppy and makes it hard to actually see what you were doing... But your dialogue kind of made possible to follow... somewhat...

[@MrNiceKnife]

$100 is ridiculous in my opinion.